Iverson is playing his first game in Istanbul...

[brownmamba00]

http://www.trt.net.tr/televizyon/sayfa/canli.aspx?kanal=TV3

[PowerGlove]

Right now? I didnt get an Email from the fan club saying he was.:mad:

[brownmamba00]

Right now? I didnt get an Email from the fan club saying he was.:mad:

yep, playing with 2 dimes and 2 rebounts,
0/3 so far

[Zan Tabak]

Hope he does well.

[PurpleChuck]

All the best to him.

[Euroleague]

http://eafangames.com/tv.php?channel=21709

http://www.fromsport.com/c-6.html

[beermonsteroo]

At least his team as a couple of black players, so he has some players with a similar abckground and similar ways of living on the team, so he shouldn't have too many problems to settle in. Having some bros around will certainly help him to overcome homesickness too.

[MayCeltics]

I'm shocked to see Andrew Ogilvy. He was Vanderbilt University Center last season. Now his teammates with Allen Iverson in Turkey. Mind=blown

[ZOMG]

I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say Iverson won't last through the season. :rolleyes:

[PowerGlove]

Beskitas likes to push in transition, if they could stop turning it over they would be up by 20.

AI is back in.

[beermonsteroo]

He looks horrible out there :facepalm :facepalm

Can't believe this is the player i was rooting so much for 9 years ago.

[MayCeltics]

Another Erden playing. I Wonder if he is related to Celtics Semih Erden?

[brownmamba00]

AI is going to need some time and Besiktas is turning the ball over way too much

[Dwade305]

:applause:

[beermonsteroo]

He seems to have lost all of his quickness. Holy shit:eek: :facepalm :facepalm

[brownmamba00]

And1

[ZOMG]

AI getting straight used. He was already a big liability on defense when in his prime - and it's all gone downhill from there.

[PowerGlove]

He looks horrible out there :facepalm :facepalm

Can't believe this is the player i was rooting so much for 9 years ago.
He's giving his team a lift. What more can you ask for?

[MayCeltics]

Jerome Jordan looks like JaVale McGee.

[Bodhi]

He seems to have lost all of his quickness. Holy shit:eek: :facepalm :facepalm

That's what happens when you're 35.

[ZOMG]

That's what happens when you're 35.

No, it doesn't. With Iverson, the difference is just very noticeable, since he used to be more or less the quickest player in the NBA.

[CJ Mustard]

They're not even running the offense through AI. SMH, isn't he at least better than all these fools on his team? :facepalm

[ZOMG]

isn't he at least better than all these fools on his team? :facepalm

No.

And he literally can't guard ANYONE out there.

[MayCeltics]

Serhat is automatic

[brownmamba00]

The guy hasnt played a bbal game for over a year, cut him some slack

[CJ Mustard]

:oldlol: Iverson's looking like a role player on this team.

[brownmamba00]

first half ends, AI has a 5/2/2

[Arroyo8]

I'm shocked to see Andrew Ogilvy. He was Vanderbilt University Center last season. Now his teammates with Allen Iverson in Turkey. Mind=blown


:wtf:

[MayCeltics]

The guy hasnt played a bbal game for over a year, cut him some slack

bitchs be hatin. AI is still legend.

[Euroleague]

They're not even running the offense through AI. SMH, isn't he at least better than all these fools on his team? :facepalm

The Eurocup isn't as high as the Euroleague level, but it's still the Eurocup. He is playing against Hemofarm, which is a decent Adriatic League club.

No 35 year old NBA player (except maybe Jordan) can just walk into that level and start owning people. Even the Eurocup (despite being worse than the Euroleague) is about 5-10 league levels higher than the NBA D-League is.

Most NBA fans just have an incredibly distorted perception of reality when it comes to the level of European club basketball. In truth, Iverson is playing about as well as could possibly be reasonably expected. To have expected him to play any better than he has so far in his first game is ridiculous.

[brownmamba00]

bitchs be hatin. AI is still legend.
Hell yeah

id rep you if i knew how to :ohwell:

[Arroyo8]

Hell yeah

id rep you if i knew how to :ohwell:


you hit the scale beneath a persons avey, but you need 300 posts

[Euroleague]

:oldlol: Iverson's looking like a role player on this team.

Did you expect him to be much more than that? Josh Childress was a role player in Olympiacos. Linas Kleiza was a role player in Olympiacos. Brandon Jennings was barely even to the level of a role player in Roma. Granted, they were playing in a higher league, but Iverson is still playing against good competition.

NBA fans just like to greatly exaggerated to the point of absurdity about how NBA players perform in Europe. The only guy that went from the NBA to Europe and was truly a star was Dominique. And today, the level of competition in Europe is quite a bit better than it was then.

[Straight Pimpin]

Some real fools in this thread yo.

[MayCeltics]

you hit the scale beneath a persons avey, but you need 300 posts

Repped for the injustice. Revolution is the answer.

[Arroyo8]

man ai is 35, i don't think anyone really expected a 35 year old undersized shoot first guard to go over there and average 4947958 points a game :facepalm:
it's refreshing to see him play at any level

[IamSofaKing]

Did you expect him to be much more than that? Josh Childress was a role player in Olympiacos. Linas Kleiza was a role player in Olympiacos. Brandon Jennings was barely even to the level of a role player in Roma. Granted, they were playing in a higher league, but Iverson is still playing against good competition.

NBA fans just like to greatly exaggerated to the point of absurdity about how NBA players perform in Europe. The only guy that went from the NBA to Europe and was truly a star was Dominique. And today, the level of competition in Europe is quite a bit better than it was then.

Your making it sound like that Euro crap>NBA

[brownmamba00]

you hit the scale beneath a persons avey, but you need 300 posts

Finally someone explains me how to give reps. Thanks

[Arroyo8]

Repped for the injustice. Revolution is the answer.


thanks man

[brownmamba00]

Did you expect him to be much more than that? Josh Childress was a role player in Olympiacos. Linas Kleiza was a role player in Olympiacos. Brandon Jennings was barely even to the level of a role player in Roma. Granted, they were playing in a higher league, but Iverson is still playing against good competition.

NBA fans just like to greatly exaggerated to the point of absurdity about how NBA players perform in Europe. The only guy that went from the NBA to Europe and was truly a star was Dominique. And today, the level of competition in Europe is quite a bit better than it was then.

Still

NBA>Euro

[Euroleague]

Your making it sound like that Euro crap>NBA

This is the type of poster that greatly exaggerates the level of NBA players against European club competition. Like I said, only one NBA player was an actual star in Europe and that was Dominique. However, there is a myth in the US that every NBA player was a superstar and super dominant if he played in Europe.

It's really a complete fantasy with no basis in reality. Compared to what most NBA players do when they first come to Europe, even if it is Eurocup and not Euroleague, Iverson is doing better than most.

Most of the guys that come from the NBA struggle like hell for quite awhile in Europe, despite all being falsely hailed as "superstars" and "dominant" on every American basketball forum.

So, seriously, some of the comments here bashing Iverson's play are over the top.

[Euroleague]

Still

NBA>Euro

NBA is better than the league Iverson plays in, which is Eurocup. The NBA is hardly at all any better than the Euroleague.

[brownmamba00]

NBA is better than the league Iverson plays in, which is Eurocup. The NBA is hardly at all any better than the Euroleague.
You just mad cuz AI aint playing for your team:lol

[Arroyo8]

Buckets!!!!!

[brownmamba00]

AI hits a 3

[Straight Pimpin]

Most of the guys that come from the NBA struggle like hell for quite awhile in Europe, despite all being falsely hailed as "superstars" and "dominant" on every American basketball forum.

So, seriously, some of the comments here bashing Iverson's play are over the top.

Maybe thats because most of the NBA guys are old and washed up by the time they go over to europe, cut out the crap because theres no player out there in europe on the level of the likes of Bryant, Lebron, Wade, Durant, Howard, Melo... you know what I could go on all day but you get the point.

[alenleomessi]

He just made a three . How many points he got?

[Arroyo8]

ai is feelin it

[brownmamba00]

He just made a three . How many points he got?

And another 3, he's getting hot

he has 10 points

[Arroyo8]

fcukkljasldkfjlasdjkf
i gotta go to class, does anyone know where i can watch this later in it's entirety?

[brownmamba00]

fcukkljasldkfjlasdjkf
i gotta go to class, does anyone know where i can watch this later in it's entirety?
I'll let you know, someone will upload it

[Straight Pimpin]

fcukkljasldkfjlasdjkf
i gotta go to class, does anyone know where i can watch this later in it's entirety?

I'm skipping class for this amigo.

[Euroleague]

Maybe thats because most of the NBA guys are old and washed up by the time they go over to europe, cut out the crap because theres no player out there in europe on the level of the likes of Bryant, Lebron, Wade, Durant, Howard, Melo... you know what I could go on all day but you get the point.

Not one of those players would be able to put up the numbers they do in the NBA in the Euroleague. Not even close.

[Euroleague]

BTW, you can follow the live game stats and play by play online here:

http://live.euroleague.net/gamesjs.aspx?ig=uleb_4&st=20&dp=CUTPCF167ADF2Q27N5MD44653&z=1

[brownmamba00]

Not one of those players would be able to put up the numbers they do in the NBA in the Euroleague. Not even close.
Dwight, Kobe and LeBron would rape the euroleague , especially Dwight in FIBA rules

[PurpleChuck]

BTW, you can follow the game stats online here:

http://live.euroleague.net/gamesjs.aspx?ig=uleb_4&st=20&dp=CUTPCF167ADF2Q27N5MD44653&z=1

Thanks! AI stroking the 3s!

[Euroleague]

Dwight, Kobe and LeBron would rape the euroleague , especially Dwight in FIBA rules

Every one of them would see a severe drop in their numbers.

[brownmamba00]

Every one of them would see a severe drop in their numbers.
Maybe - 3/4 ppg a game and thats Because Euroleague teams play in a slow pace and they only play 40 minutes. Not because EL>NBA

[zizozain]

AI is back

:banana: :banana: :basketball :basketball :banana: :banana:

:hammertime: :hammertime:

[2LeTTeRS]

This is the type of poster that greatly exaggerates the level of NBA players against European club competition. Like I said, only one NBA player was an actual star in Europe and that was Dominique. However, there is a myth in the US that every NBA player was a superstar and super dominant if he played in Europe.

It's really a complete fantasy with no basis in reality. Compared to what most NBA players do when they first come to Europe, even if it is Eurocup and not Euroleague, Iverson is doing better than most.

Most of the guys that come from the NBA struggle like hell for quite awhile in Europe, despite all being falsely hailed as "superstars" and "dominant" on every American basketball forum.

So, seriously, some of the comments here bashing Iverson's play are over the top.

Umm....how many star players have even gone to Europe? You have Nique and thats really it. Other then him you have a slew of guys who were role players in the NBA or were has beens because of age or injury.

[brownmamba00]

AI hustling :applause:

[kaiteng]

A trey and a foul! :banana:

[Styles p]

add another 3

[brownmamba00]

Clutch 3 pointer :bowdown:
and a foul too. Whadup euroleague?

[brownmamba00]

Shit, 1 point game

[Styles p]

ai ballin on these turkeys.

[kaiteng]

Wow, raining threes for the orange team.

[ZOMG]

Good God, what an epic choke job. :facepalm

[brownmamba00]

Damn, Besiktas losing after a 16 point lead

[madmax]

AI still hasn't lost his shooting touch, but his decision making is a bit shaky and his team lost at home anyway LOL:lol

[brownmamba00]

AI missed the game tying 3.

[Euroleague]

Maybe - 3/4 ppg a game and thats Because Euroleague teams play in a slow pace and they only play 40 minutes. Not because EL>NBA

Way more than 4 points per game.

[Kellogs4toniee]

That was some pretty physical defense they had on Iverson towards the end of the game. Those would have been touch fouls easily in the NBA. Really wish that shot would have went in, would have been a great gift for the fans.

[kaiteng]

Besiktas' team defense is just plain bad. How can they allow threes after threes.

Have fun, AI!

[bada bing]

AI's stats?

[Euroleague]

Umm....how many star players have even gone to Europe? You have Nique and thats really it. Other then him you have a slew of guys who were role players in the NBA or were has beens because of age or injury.

Dominique Wilkins
George Gervin
Bob McAdoo
Byron Scott
Dino Radja

I believe they all left the NBA and played in Europe. I am sure I am leaving others out as well.

[Euroleague]

AI still hasn't lost his shooting touch, but his decision making is a bit shaky and his team lost at home anyway LOL:lol

I thought for his first Eurocup game he played extremely well on offense. His defense could have used some work though. He played the passing lanes well but other than that not so much. But that is to be expected since he has just started playing again.

[brownmamba00]

15/3/2
http://live.euroleague.net/gamesjs.aspx?ig=uleb_4&st=20&dp=CUTPCF167ADF2Q27N5MD44653&z=1

[kaiteng]

AI's stats?
15 points, 3 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 turnovers, 3 threes, in 23 minutes.

[Jon_Koncak]

Disgusting deffence by Besiktas.AI didn't play bad,but in honestly they got the big lead when he was on the bench.On the other hand all those fans packed the arena to see him play so that was a tough call for their coach

[MayCeltics]

I was suprised they had a game. isn't a holiday in turkey? Anyways eid mubarak

[brownmamba00]

eid mubarak
To all of us brother

[Euroleague]

Game Box Score:

http://www.eurocupbasketball.com/ulebcup/competition/results/showgame?gamecode=4

BTW, the field goals are not counted the same way in European box scores as they are in the NBA box scores. In order to get the field goal total you have to add the 2 point fields and the 3 point field goals together.

So in an NBA style box score, it would mean Iverson shot 4/10 from the field overall and 3/4 from 3 point range.

Also, the ranking stat is the Larry Bird plus/minus hockey stat. The European one is similar to the NBA efficiency stat, only it includes more stats than the NBA efficiency stat does.

[2LeTTeRS]

Dominique Wilkins
George Gervin
Bob McAdoo
Byron Scott
Dino Radja

I believe they all left the NBA and played in Europe. I am sure I am leaving others out as well.

And all those players (besides Radja who was European) played in Europe at the twilight of their careers.

[Euroleague]

And all those players (besides Radja who was European) played in Europe at the twilight of their careers.

Some European players played in the NBA in the "twilight" of their careers and they are universally called "scrubs" by NBA fans.

NBA fans create hundreds of myths about European basketball that are not true. What is true, is that across the board the American sports fans greatly overrate the NBA as it compares to European basketball.

Josh Childress was supposed to be the LeBron or Jordan of Euroleague. When he became just another player, suddenly no NBA fans mentioned him again, etc.

And Wilkins was not at the "twilight" of his career. Neither was McAdoo. Not by a long stretch. Wilkins averaged 18 a game in the NBA a couple of years I think after he was in Europe.

See this is how NBA fans create myths (they are lies also).........

X NBA player was at the "twilight of his career in Europe"....

"Jasikevicius was the best player in Euroleague history and he was a scrub in the NBA".

First, Wilkins for example was not at the twilight of his career, and Jasikevicius was never the best Euroleague player and actually came to the NBA himself long after his prime and after he had several leg injuries.

NBA fans like to tell a lot of lies whenever they talk about European club basketball.

[brownmamba00]

Some European players played in the NBA in the "twilight" of their careers and they are universally called "scrubs" by NBA fans.

NBA fans create hundreds of myths about European basketball that are not true. What is true, is that across the board the American sports fans greatly overrate the NBA as it compares to European basketball.

Josh Childress was supposed to be the LeBron or Jordan of Euroleague. When he became just another player, suddenly no NBA fans mentioned him again, etc.

And Wilkins was not at the "twilight" of his career. Neither was McAdoo. Not by a long stretch. Wilkins averaged 18 a game in the NBA a couple of years I think after he was in Europe.

See this is how NBA fans create myths (they are lies also).........

X NBA player was at the "twilight of his career in Europe"....

"Jasikevicius was the best player in Euroleague history and he was a scrub in the NBA".

First, Wilkins for example was not at the twilight of his career, and Jasikevicius was never the best Euroleague player and actually came to the NBA himself long after his prime and after he had several leg injuries.

NBA fans like to tell a lot of lies whenever they talk about European club basketball.

Jasikevicius was 28-29 when he entered the NBA and was a scrub.
I hope your not trying to say Jasikevicius was not a superstar in the Euroleague.

[2LeTTeRS]

Some European players played in the NBA in the "twilight" of their careers and they are universally called "scrubs" by NBA fans.

NBA fans create hundreds of myths about European basketball that are not true. What is true, is that across the board the American sports fans greatly overrate the NBA as it compares to European basketball.

Josh Childress was supposed to be the LeBron or Jordan of Euroleague. When he became just another player, suddenly no NBA fans mentioned him again, etc.

And Wilkins was not at the "twilight" of his career. Neither was McAdoo. Not by a long stretch. Wilkins averaged 18 a game in the NBA a couple of years I think after he was in Europe.

See this is how NBA fans create myths (they are lies also).........

X NBA player was at the "twilight of his career in Europe"....

"Jasikevicius was the best player in Euroleague history and he was a scrub in the NBA".

First, Wilkins for example was not at the twilight of his career, and Jasikevicius was never the best Euroleague player and actually came to the NBA himself long after his prime and after he had several leg injuries.

NBA fans like to tell a lot of lies whenever they talk about European club basketball.

Stop stereotyping all NBA fans. I'm a NBA fan first, but I want to be an agent and understand that alot of my potential players will be going to Europe. Because of that I study a lot of the goings on in Europe.

And to speak about Sarunas Jasikevicius while its true he might not have been in his athletic prime when he came to the US, he had won the last 2 Euroleague championships prior to coming over to America. Plus after he left, Jasikevicius was still beasting in international competitions and won another Euroleague title.

[catch24]

So is it safe to say EuroLeague = Lakas Fan?

[Psych0]

This game was average for what is expected of him, but I

[TheLegend]

Good game for a guy that hasn't played ball in a long time.

[Euroleague]

Jasikevicius was 28-29 when he entered the NBA and was a scrub.
I hope your not trying to say Jasikevicius was not a superstar in the Euroleague.


I am saying what I am saying. Most NBA fans lie all the time about the game in Europe.

[Euroleague]

Stop stereotyping all NBA fans. I'm a NBA fan first, but I want to be an agent and understand that alot of my potential players will be going to Europe. Because of that I study a lot of the goings on in Europe.

And to speak about Sarunas Jasikevicius while its true he might not have been in his athletic prime when he came to the US, he had won the last 2 Euroleague championships prior to coming over to America. Plus after he left, Jasikevicius was still beasting in international competitions and won another Euroleague title.

He was well past his prime when he came to the NBA.

[DRoseOwnsACamry]

He was well past his prime when he came to the NBA.
All I had to do was read ONE sentence, and immediately I knew who this was. :facepalm

[Euroleague]

All I had to do was read ONE sentence, and immediately I knew who this was. :facepalm

What is that supposed to mean?

[DRoseOwnsACamry]

What is that supposed to mean?
It means, I'm predicting that your post count will be 350-400 when you get banned again.

[creepingdeath]

The times, they are a-changing.. both TheLogo's AND LakasYo's new accounts are still in the green. :lol

[artificial]

What? Wasn't this thread about Iverson?


And why would anyone waste their time with NoLinksYo/Euroleague?

[Samurai Swoosh]

So is it safe to say EuroLeague = Lakas Fan?
You know it ... dude is obsessive. Pathetic, too.

:oldlol:

[Lebron23]

How many points did Iverson scored in his debut game?

[Lakers12]

What? Wasn't this thread about Iverson?


And why would anyone waste their time with NoLinksYo/Euroleague?


who ever stays on topic here?

[tommy3]

How many points did Iverson scored in his debut game?
15

[Pushxx]

No 35 year old NBA player (except maybe Jordan) can just walk into that level and start owning people.

Ray Allen...

[mentallooser]

ESPN 3 showing any more AI games soon?

[bdreason]

Did you expect him to be much more than that? Josh Childress was a role player in Olympiacos. Linas Kleiza was a role player in Olympiacos.



The leaders in scoring, rebounding, and minutes played were roleplayers on Olympiakos?

[LA KB24]

So is it safe to say EuroLeague = Lakas Fan?Yes.

[Euroleague]

The leaders in scoring, rebounding, and minutes played were roleplayers on Olympiakos?

Yes. By every single definition of NBA "role player" they were role players. Milos Teodosic and Ioannis Bourousis were the clear leaders of that team.

[theaussieguy]

one cannot simply walk into mordor

[DPittman]

one cannot simply walk into mordor


agreed

[blondie]

Jasikevicius was 28-29 when he entered the NBA and was a scrub.
I hope your not trying to say Jasikevicius was not a superstar in the Euroleague.
Shitnoulis was in his prime-also Kleiza and Childress weren't "just another player" they were euroleague stars, Childress for example was all-Euroleague second team-IE that meant he was awarded for being the second best small forward in Euroleague-wheras in the NBA he is a role playing scrub


Shitnoulis went from being a european superstar into a 3ppg scorer who couldn't get minutes over Rafer Alston because Rafer Alston was a better long range shooter.

Read that again. Euro superstar shitnoulis cant even outshoot RAFER ALSTON

[Psileas]

He (Jasikevicius) was well past his prime when he came to the NBA.


And Wilkins was not at the "twilight" of his career. Neither was McAdoo. Not by a long stretch.

Long time no see, Yo.

[Droid101]

Childress for example was all-Euroleague second team-IE that meant he was awarded for being the second best small forward in Euroleague-wheras in the NBA he is a role playing scrub



If that. Dude can hardly get minutes on the SUNS.

[Euroleague]

Shitnoulis was in his prime-also Kleiza and Childress weren't "just another player" they were euroleague stars, Childress for example was all-Euroleague second team-IE that meant he was awarded for being the second best small forward in Euroleague-wheras in the NBA he is a role playing scrub


Shitnoulis went from being a european superstar into a 3ppg scorer who couldn't get minutes over Rafer Alston because Rafer Alston was a better long range shooter.

Read that again. Euro superstar shitnoulis cant even outshoot RAFER ALSTON


Apparently someone has failed to inform you that fans vote online for the All Euroleague teams. Including all the American NBA fans that stuff the vote every year for any former NBA rotation player.

In case you also did not know, fans are not allowed to vote for the All NBA teams.

[JM720]

hope he does good :confusedshrug:

[jbot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv-KcF3Rkv8

[dreaming121]

Iverson highlights:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4th1IxHgrFk

Some iverson clips in the game:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTWeWvCuerY