GZA Liquid Swords= Most underrated Rap album of all time?

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

http://www.thecitrusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/GZA.jpg

Sick Album!!:applause: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA49DaVmJWQ&feature=fvst

Track Listing
1.Liquid Swords 9/10:bowdown: :bowdown:
2.Duel of the Iron Mic 9/10:applause:
3.Living in the World Today 9/10:bowdown:
4.Gold 10/10:bowdown: :bowdown:
5.Cold World 8/10
6.Labels 9/10
7.4th Chamber 10/10:bowdown:
8.Shadowboxin 9/10
9.Hell's Wind Staff / Killah Hills 10304 10/10
10.Investigative Reports 9/10
11."Unexplained / Swordsman 8/10
12.I Gotcha Back 9/10
13.B.I.B.L.E. (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) 10/10

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HlWcV8PS-wc/SbGo2vVI_CI/AAAAAAAABO0/jFGJjtYU3d0/s1600-h/GZA-Genius+-+%5B1995%5D+-+%5BGED+24813%5D+-+Liquid+Swords+%28back%29.jpg

[Knicks101]

Nope, not even close.

[Jailblazers7]

Nope, it is widely renowned for its greatness.

[bdreason]

The album is fairly high rated. :confusedshrug:

[PowerGlove]

switch under out for another word....

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Nope, it is widely renowned for its greatness.

not in todays world. Dude i'm 17 and i never heard about GZA in my life until my bro left his usb on the computer. I was looking for some porn, but only found old school songs along with Lupe. So i listened to GZA liquid swords and its fire:pimp:

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

switch under out for another word....
:wtf: :wtf:

[Rizko]

No, everyone knows this is a good album. I can think of so many albums that are much more underrated then Liquid Swords.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

No, everyone knows this is a good album. I can think of so many albums that are much more underrated then Liquid Swords.

MF DOOM:confusedshrug:

[Rizko]

switch under out for another word....
Actually I would say this. I liked the album enough, but it's not something I really go outta my way to listen too. It didn't do to much for me.

[Legend of Josh]

I'm biased... but I say it's a Top 3 - Top 5 all-time rap album. Not exactly underrated. Easily a timeless classic. More so than 36 Chambers. No other Wu album flows better than LS; hard to really say any other albums flow better Wu or not.

[irondarts]

No, it's one of the GOAT and is resicgnized as such by most people i know. I'd say Cormegas new album Born and Raised is pretty damn underrated. It;s the best hip-hop album ive heard in the last 10 years.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/0/02/Cormega_Born_And_Raised.jpg

also, these albums are really underrated imo:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wx9raB8JMjQ/SdPR8QgfioI/AAAAAAAABE0/PSeR-vgjqjE/s400/MicGeronimo-TheNatural-Front.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_e51XckQap7E/SMZaxjCZN5I/AAAAAAAABqk/LSZYs4r8gNo/s320/Originoo+Gunn+Clappaz+-+Da+Storm.jpg

[irondarts]

Although this album is recognized as one of the best by hardcore NYC hip hop heads, it is still the most underrated hip-hop album of all time, in my opinion - and the best Wu Affiliate album:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_L0deb0c7_Rs/SVSjogNbXAI/AAAAAAAAA5g/qZxKd_Lx9dU/s400/killarmy_silent_weapons_for_quiet_wars_1997_retail _cd-front.jpg

Killarmy - Silent Weapons For Quiet Wars

[GOBB]

What is it with some posters here acting like they discovered a diamond in the rough with Gza album? Reminds me of the love affair some had about that wacko movie Donnie Darko.

And OGC album sucked balls. I gave it away for free to one of my friends. Only got it because of that hit single. Starange Wonder had a dope solo song on there. Cant think of the name.

[Legend of Josh]

What is it with some posters here acting like they discovered a diamond in the rough with Gza album? Reminds me of the love affair some had about that wacko movie Donnie Darko.

And OGC album sucked balls. I gave it away for free to one of my friends. Only got it because of that hit single. Starange Wonder had a dope solo song on there. Cant think of the name.

LOL ... your rap music tastes is always butt sauce baby doo-doo squirts. All good man.

That OGC album was fire. Most heads will say the same. Sorry you can't feel the real from the fake.

About Cormega ... I'm a big fan. His production skills so nice. I love his throw-back chill NYC style instrumentals ... loved his work with Lake on that album that dropped a few years back forgot the title??? Album was dope... I have it... I've bumped it a good four five times cant think of the title LOL.

[Legend of Josh]

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51V1p9GdzLL._SS400_.jpg

Here it is... album is fire.

[Legend of Josh]

Here's a video/single from the album....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX0HtQ8TZWs

[GOBB]

OGC album was trash. Most heads? Like who? Guys who love the unknown artists with funny sounding names "MC Solarix", "Saturnz" who think they are dope? Ok. Outside of BCC fanboys, I dont know most heads who think OGC album was a banger. It was weak much like your redundant responses to me in hip hop threads.

Oh look, Lakey the kid album was fire! An artist not many know of besides locals and Cormega fans/followers. But hey you heard the album so you're official. You're certified. Did you hear Philly artist Riptides album? Its gold. He delivers some of the most dope lyrics unheard of. Exceptional stuff. Production is top notch as well. Great album to say the least. I say to say the least. :facepalm

Guess this is the closest you can get to the hood huh LOJ?

[bdreason]

OGC Da Storm is nice. Throw that album on a good system and bass is amazing.

Other under-appreciated albums are Camp Lo - Saturday Night Fever, and Capone N Noreaga - War Report.

[andgar923]

I'm biased... but I say it's a Top 3 - Top 5 all-time rap album. Not exactly underrated. Easily a timeless classic. More so than 36 Chambers. No other Wu album flows better than LS; hard to really say any other albums flow better Wu or not.

I agree.... I have it in my top 5 all time, and I also agree that it isn't underrated. Most hip hop cats rank it highly and it is usually considered to be one of the best (if not THE best) Wu solo project.

Now.... if we wanna talk about underrated, then a true underrated album would be Killah Priest's 'Heavy Mental'.

I rarely see it ranked or in best of lists.

[Enigmatism]

calling things underrated is overrated

wait what?

[andgar923]

calling things underrated is overrated

wait what?

Mindblown!!!!

[Sarcastic]

If you are LIVING IN THE WORLD TODAY, remember to read the LABELS when entering the COLD WORLD OF KILLAH HILLS 10304. INVESTIGATIVE REPORTS state that the DUEL OF THE IRON MIC took place in the 4TH CHAMBER, and it was the infamous SHADOWBOXIN

[GOBB]

OGC Da Storm is nice. Throw that album on a good system and bass is amazing.

Other under-appreciated albums are Camp Lo - Saturday Night Fever, and Capone N Noreaga - War Report.

Camp Lo album would fall under that category for sure. CNN is pretty well respected.

[andgar923]

The Camp Lo album isn't that great.

It has about 4 good tracks and well.... that's about it.

I loved the 4 good tracks but it was underwhelming overall, and not really worthy of being called a great album. Sad, because they had tons of potential, they weren't smooth, they were smoooove and slick with it.... one of my fav groups of all time.

[Jackass18]

Now.... if we wanna talk about underrated, then a true underrated album would be Killah Priest's 'Heavy Mental'.

I lost that album like 3 days after I bought it.

LS is pretty highly rated so it can't really be underrated. I'd say his next 2 albums are underrated, though.

[JtotheIzzo]

http://www.thecitrusreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/GZA.jpg

Sick Album!!:applause: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wA49DaVmJWQ&feature=fvst

Track Listing
1.Liquid Swords 9/10:bowdown:
2.Duel of the Iron Mic 9/10:applause:
3.Living in the World Today 9/10:bowdown:
4.Gold 10/10:bowdown: :bowdown:
5.Cold World 8/10
6.Labels 9/10
7.4th Chamber 10/10:bowdown:
8.Shadowboxin 9/10
9.Hell's Wind Staff / Killah Hills 10304 10/10
10.Investigative Reports 9/10
11."Unexplained / Swordsman 8/10
12.I Gotcha Back 9/10
13.B.I.B.L.E. (Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth) 10/10

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_HlWcV8PS-wc/SbGo2vVI_CI/AAAAAAAABO0/jFGJjtYU3d0/s1600-h/GZA-Genius+-+%5B1995%5D+-+%5BGED+24813%5D+-+Liquid+Swords+%28back%29.jpg


underrated:facepalm

[irondarts]

yeah beneath the surface is underrated. wouldn't say the same about legend
Pro Tools (his newest) is definitely underrated.

[Vragrant]

Pro Tools (his newest) is definitely underrated.

in my top 3 favourite GZA albums

[irondarts]

What is it with some posters here acting like they discovered a diamond in the rough with Gza album? Reminds me of the love affair some had about that wacko movie Donnie Darko.

And OGC album sucked balls. I gave it away for free to one of my friends. Only got it because of that hit single. Starange Wonder had a dope solo song on there. Cant think of the name.

To each his own..but, the album is a classic. Hurricane Starang (the song your referring to) isn't even one of the top songs on the album, though it's still nice. "Calm Before Da Storm", "No Fear", "Gunn Clapp", "Elite Fleet" are some of the best tracks the BCC has put out. OGC's second album "The M-Pire Strikes Back" was a huge disappointment to me though.

[baseketball4life]

I like 4th chamber, Gold, living in the world today, and duel of the iron mic

[playtetris]

cormega's 'born and raised' isn't underrated: it's a solid album by a great lyricist who can't flow. granted, there are some nice beats on there, but there are also bland cuts aplenty.

this thread has been done quite a few times, but here are some failsafe picks:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/ff28d773d6f66f980cc3e522be1ef64a/47971.jpg

http://www.earfuzz.com/uploaded_images/Juggaknots-Clear-Blue-Skies-748463.jpg

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/h/heltah-skeltah/album-nocturnal.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R-wex9j3--g/SpfnB95wIII/AAAAAAAACMo/KCQ5i8iOiVc/s320/Casual+-+Fear+Itself+%5BCover%5D.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L0deb0c7_Rs/SqypKqNYIrI/AAAAAAAABeI/fJk7TMC6S-I/s400/saafir_boxcar_sessions_front.jpg

etc etc

[dyna]

http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/blog_images/blu_exile_cover.jpg

[NoName22]

http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/blog_images/blu_exile_cover.jpg

I really dig this album, but underrated ? Don't think so.

I'd say Funcrusher plus isn't in the 'most underrated' discussion IMO.

[PowerGlove]

its a classic on par with the illmatics and aqueminis. it gets mentioned as a good album but not as a classic or an all time great.
:roll:

[EarlTheGoat]

cormega's 'born and raised' isn't underrated: it's a solid album by a great lyricist who can't flow. granted, there are some nice beats on there, but there are also bland cuts aplenty.

this thread has been done quite a few times, but here are some failsafe picks:

http://static.rateyourmusic.com/album_images/ff28d773d6f66f980cc3e522be1ef64a/47971.jpg

http://www.earfuzz.com/uploaded_images/Juggaknots-Clear-Blue-Skies-748463.jpg

http://images.uulyrics.com/cover/h/heltah-skeltah/album-nocturnal.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_R-wex9j3--g/SpfnB95wIII/AAAAAAAACMo/KCQ5i8iOiVc/s320/Casual+-+Fear+Itself+%5BCover%5D.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L0deb0c7_Rs/SqypKqNYIrI/AAAAAAAABeI/fJk7TMC6S-I/s400/saafir_boxcar_sessions_front.jpg

etc etc

Paul Pierce`s lil brother there.

[PowerGlove]

of course
Man come on, you cant go throwing around Illmatic status every day now dude.

It was nice, I'll give you that, but I'm more of the wait and see when it comes to classic status. It has to be able to stand the test of time.

[Lamar Doom]

Here's some underrated hip hop albums- you can click on each album cover for a song from the album.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wfjRpYdQzLI/R4n45tU0weI/AAAAAAAAAoU/IdXVIz481Ys/s400/pep%2Blove-ascension.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAbaNEkPFU)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_W6NJ1k1ozC4/SZXgTDqfJSI/AAAAAAAAB0A/s4_YM920yOk/s400/Cover.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lROYH6iRJek)
http://www.musicnear.com/images/Looking-Backwards-2001-1998-B000GH2PW8-L.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xiPhoQu6rk)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tWXly-4QRCk/Sqq0oTEwA0I/AAAAAAAAAM8/RB_CZRWYkUM/s400/soundbombing2.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNT26aVFBt4)
http://www.lolitafiles.com/uploaded_images/MainSourceBreakingAtoms-755317.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fE6Ul3NQVpk)
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_tWXly-4QRCk/Sp6M4-m_NPI/AAAAAAAAAJ8/2Z98_a1tMfM/s400/The+Next+Step.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFYR4XI9Itw)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_R-wex9j3--g/SqMZvnnm1TI/AAAAAAAAC5k/epDjhG_MiBg/s320/Dilated+Peoples+-+The+Platform.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mRMd1snnuA0)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_CgOKSAc2wgY/SbaX9FU9dMI/AAAAAAAABGI/zR5tNSgZ9qY/s400/Buckshot_LeFonque-Music_Evolution_b.JPG (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1s0hd2Aovg)
http://chungkingstudios.com/news/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/blowout-comb.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVBdWJt52ac)
http://grandgood.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/anon.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=drnbi0yftZ0)

[Jailblazers7]

Here's some underrated hip hop albums- you can click on each album cover for a song from the album.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_wfjRpYdQzLI/R4n45tU0weI/AAAAAAAAAoU/IdXVIz481Ys/s400/pep%2Blove-ascension.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqAbaNEkPFU)


Just listened to this song, The Onus (What Are You), and U.S. and I'm downloading this album right now. Great stuff.

[Lamar Doom]

Just listened to this song, The Onus (What Are You), and U.S. and I'm downloading this album right now. Great stuff.

my other favorite is act phenom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA5gg3uUATA)

[Bigsmoke]

this and Illmatic are 2 of my favorite albums

[playtetris]

I really dig this album, but underrated ? Don't think so.

I'd say Funcrusher plus isn't in the 'most underrated' discussion IMO.

blu's album is overrated if anything.

'funcrusher plus' is a classic record: great beats, dope lyricism, unique vibe... it's no 'liquid swords', but it's better than all but a couple of the albums mentioned in this thread.

[NoName22]

blu's album is overrated if anything.

'funcrusher plus' is a classic record: great beats, dope lyricism, unique vibe... it's no 'liquid swords', but it's better than all but a couple of the albums mentioned in this thread.

Never said it wasn't good. It's ranked pretty well by most hip hop enthusiasts.

[Legend of Josh]

Guess this is the closest you can get to the hood huh LOJ?

You, questioning someone else's hood credibility.

:facepalm

[GOBB]

You, questioning someone else's hood credibility.

:facepalm

:rolleyes:

[Legend of Josh]

Buckshot LeFonque's Music Evolution was pretty good. Not up to par with the Jazzmataz collections, but solid. Underrated by default. You're the first I've seen reference this.

[Lamar Doom]

I was gonna put jazzmatazz up there but I'm still on that "f*ck solaar" tip. the first one was really good but after that it was just a few tracks per album.

[Legend of Josh]

I'm not big on Dilated. If anything (IMO), they're overrated because they're regarded highly in some circles. Ear Drums Pop (remix) was the standout track from Platform, but otherwise just IMO, album was weak.

People Under the Stairs is not my cup of tea either. Not a big fan. San Francisco Knights is about the only song I've considered notable.

While we're on the West Coast / Bay Area subject, what do you guys think of Cali Agents?

[Legend of Josh]

"The M-Pire Strikes Back" was a huge disappointment to me though.

M-Pire Shrikez Back went way below the radar but it's mad solid. There are some very skippable tracks on there, but all in all the album is close to what I'd call a banger. I consider this highly underrated.

[Jailblazers7]

my other favorite is act phenom (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA5gg3uUATA)

Been listening to this album non-stop. Discovering great music is one of the things I love about ISH.

I like the album pretty much top to bottom but another track that hasn't been posted yet that I love is T.A.M.I. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMajQYsIIuo)

[irondarts]

http://www.straightgangsterism.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/heist.jpg

i've loved this album for a long time, i feel like it doesn't get as much recognition as it should.

[irondarts]

As well as this one:

http://wu-tangclan.ru/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/WU-SYNDICATE-Myalansky-Joe-Mafia-1999.jpg

[irondarts]

M-Pire Shrikez Back went way below the radar but it's mad solid. There are some very skippable tracks on there, but all in all the album is close to what I'd call a banger. I consider this highly underrated.
Some of the songs are nice, the title track is really nice. But overall the album was just a let down to me, not bad, but i was expecting something more after Da Storm.

[macmac]

The most underrated album in hip hop, as proven in this thread by a complete lack of mention, is....


http://www.wmaker.net/magnifyk/docs/sticky_fingaz_.blacktrash.jpg

STICKY FINGAZ
BLACK TRASH: THE AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF KIRK JONES


One of the best conceptual albums ever made. Never deviates from the story or the point of the album. Every joint is crack, sick beats, amazing lyrics, and a rawness that only an Onyx member can conjure.

Listen to this track, where Sticky gets on his paranoid, jealous vibe and sheds light on how shady the girls in our life are

Cheatin' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dz4OBA7N2LA&feature=related)

Check out this track, where Kirk Jones has an in-depth convo with a philosophical greater Entity...

Oh my God (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLOsUc8MbEg)

Another example of greatness, a real storytelling gem, Kirk comes out of jail and meets up with his boy after being found guilty in court and doin his time

Why (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1LpyRaj5Kg&feature=related)

[macmac]

No love for sticky?

[Hands of Iron]

It is not underrated these days although I kind of like it not being front and center like a few others. To me, it's the greatest and most perfectly cut hip-hop record of all-time and basically belongs to it's own universe like Outkast's 1996 masterpiece ATLiens. I'm simply not comfortable even comparing it to the other era classics that blend together for discussion with relative ease such as Illmatic, Only Built 4 Cuban Linx, Reasonable Doubt, Ready to Die, The Infamous, Doe or Die, etc. Plenty of differences abound there as well of course, but not to the dimension LS takes it. Definitely not an album for just anybody, nor is GZA as an MC.

[MMM]

this and Illmatic are 2 of my favorite albums

Was about to post the same

also in Killah hillz 10304
i love the reference to Paul Castellano in the beginning and Sammy the Bull snitching near the end.

[ace23]

One of the best rap albums I've heard tbh