LMAO Miami are really 8-5?!?!?

[Hulk Hogan]

Kinda surreal, like a dream. Who would have known? I thought they could had actually pulled off 72 games... Wow, who would had thought they would lose 5 of their first 13 games? :oldlol:

They ran into a pack of grizzly bears and got ate good.:oldlol:

[ILLsmak]

Kinda surreal, like a dream. Who would have known? I thought they could had actually pulled off 72 games... Wow, who would had thought they would lose 5 of their first 15 games? :oldlol:

Looks like they didn't eat good today.:hammerhead:

"BROTHER!"

-Smak

[BlueandGold]

don't let the record fool you, they are really going to be 77-5.

[TrueRob]

It was sad watching Bosh give up so many offensive rebounds.

[TonyJones]

They thought they could get by with three superstars.

That bench needs some serious help if they are planning on going anywhere.

[305Baller]

You trolls are hating on a last second loss sans Wase/Ud/Milla? SMH like P Redwood.

[mashbelly]

unfortunate setback

[sbw19]

They ran into a pack of grizzly bears

More like amBoshed.

[elementally morale]

You trolls are hating on a last second loss sans Wase/Ud/Milla? SMH like P Redwood.


Last year, Cleveland would have won this game by 20 points. Without Wade. AND without Bosh.

[SavageMode]

This thread is meaningless. The fact is the Heat have a bright future and are title contenders for the next 6-7 years. Don't know about the OP's team. It's crucial for this team to lose early, so they can learn the flaws and reintegrate. Basic.

Amazing clutch shot by Rudy but in fact, the Grizzlies will never make the NBA finals with the Lakers running the West.

[Hulk Hogan]

You trolls are hating on a last second loss sans Wase/Ud/Milla? SMH like P Redwood.

Isn't that what counts? Winning a close game? Weathering the onslaught of an opposition team? Every now and then a great team should be able to withstand close and tight games because it prepares the team for the playoffs. If you can't overcome in an close game with playoff-like atmosphere, how do you expect to survive in the playoffs itself!?!?

[KenneBell]

You know what Hulk?

The Heat can't help that they're custom made! They can't help that they look good, smell good, WOOOOOOO! Can dance all night long!!!!

:roll:

[Harion]

what's wrong with 8-5?
lots of losing team in the nba right now would love to have that record
8-5 is better than 5-8
and with the way they are playing, that's better than expected

they have no inside presence
offense stagnates at times
confused roles and confused players

really. i'd take that record anytime and be happy about it
until they get a losing record, anytime above .500 i'd be happy

i'd be disappointed if they're actually playing stellar basketball and still have a losing record (and how do the rockets feel? they're not playing bad but they have a losing record)
imo, the heat are playing worse than the rockets
so getting those wins? meh...
i'd take those wins anytime

[G-Funk]

You trolls are hating on a last second loss sans Wase/Ud/Milla? SMH like P Redwood.

8-5? nothing to hate on

[305Baller]

Last year, Cleveland would have won this game by 20 points. Without Wade. AND without Bosh. Speculative.

[All Net]

This thread is meaningless. The fact is the Heat have a bright future and are title contenders for the next 6-7 years. Don't know about the OP's team. It's crucial for this team to lose early, so they can learn the flaws and reintegrate. Basic.

Amazing clutch shot by Rudy but in fact, the Grizzlies will never make the NBA finals with the Lakers running the West.

They better learn and improve as their rebounding and inside play is really poor. They need to learn to box out otherwise they won't be close to winning anything.

[Rose]

Speculative.
Cleveland...did beat them last year.

[Noob Saibot]

man Miami is losing all of their games in crunchtime, can they not hold a lead?

[oh the horror]

Come on now, LETS KEEP IT REAL...


8-5 for THIS team and the expectations they had coming in, THUS FAR is NOT good.



There are SEVERAL alarming key points to their games, and glaring weaknesses to this team.

[gts]

Last year, Cleveland would have won this game by 20 points. Without Wade. AND without Bosh.I just hope lebron can keep his head up, he's not used to losing this much

[knightfall88]

what's wrong with 8-5?
lots of losing team in the nba right now would love to have that record
8-5 is better than 5-8
and with the way they are playing, that's better than expected

they have no inside presence
offense stagnates at times
confused roles and confused players

really. i'd take that record anytime and be happy about it
until they get a losing record, anytime above .500 i'd be happy

i'd be disappointed if they're actually playing stellar basketball and still have a losing record (and how do the rockets feel? they're not playing bad but they have a losing record)
imo, the heat are playing worse than the rockets
so getting those wins? meh...
i'd take those wins anytime

No point comparing them to the rockets when they made it clear before the season started that they are a championship team.

[All Net]

I just hope lebron can keep his head up, he's not used to losing this much

Well not until the playoffs anyway....

[PianoMan]

Come on now, LETS KEEP IT REAL...


8-5 for THIS team and the expectations they had coming in, THUS FAR is NOT good.



There are SEVERAL alarming key points to their games, and glaring weaknesses to this team.
Dude they just came from back to back games. Wade and Haslem out. Lebron played huge minutes, Barely had any rest. :hammerhead:

[Indian guy]

Last year, Cleveland would have won this game by 20 points. Without Wade. AND without Bosh.

Cleveland lost IN Memphis last season.

[Harion]

Come on now, LETS KEEP IT REAL...


8-5 for THIS team and the expectations they had coming in, THUS FAR is NOT good.



There are SEVERAL alarming key points to their games, and glaring weaknesses to this team.
yes
they really should fulfill those expectations
(beating the bulls record)

wow. anytime you set expectations that high....

[PianoMan]

No point comparing them to the rockets when they made it clear before the season started that they are a championship team.
Has the playoffs even started :hammerhead: . Because im sure when the playoff hits it wont be none of these problems

[mashbelly]

Heat

[Indian guy]

I do think they've been very unclucky in losing as many games as they have. 4 of the 5 losses all went to the last few seconds, where everything that could've gone wrong did. The only game where they were truly outplayed was the game against Boston last week. This team could easily be 11-2 right now.

[Harion]

No point comparing them to the rockets when they made it clear before the season started that they are a championship team.
the comparison is my opinion of how both teams are playing right now and their respective record
the OP is pointing out 8-5 is laughable for this Miami team
i'm just pointing out they're lucky they got 8 wins instead of 8 losses considering how they are playing starting this season
you compare that with the Rockets who isn't nearly as bad as Miami
and you gotta feel for Houston really

Miami on crappy playing = 8 wins 5 losses
Houston playing better than Miami = 3 wins and 9 losses

[mashbelly]

I do think they've been very unclucky in losing as many games as they have. 4 of the 5 losses all went to the last few seconds, where everything that could've gone wrong did. The only game where they were truly outplayed was the game against Boston last week. This team could easily be 11-2 right now.

but they are easily 8-5 :hammerhead:

[chazzy]

I do think they've been very unclucky in losing as many games as they have. 4 of the 5 losses all went to the last few seconds, where everything that could've gone wrong did. The only game where they were truly outplayed was the game against Boston last week. This team could easily be 11-2 right now.

Bosh's bankshot 3 wasn't lucky at all?

[EnoughSaid]

I don't even know who the f@#k said the Heat were going to beat the Bulls record. Are you out of your damn mind? We'll be lucky to win 50. Miami really needs to get together and stop losing games they should win. :facepalm

[305Baller]

Isn't that what counts? Winning a close game? Weathering the onslaught of an opposition team? Every now and then a great team should be able to withstand close and tight games because it prepares the team for the playoffs. If you can't overcome in an close game with playoff-like atmosphere, how do you expect to survive in the playoffs itself!?!?

Yeah true but it happens. I still think Heat need some Pittman/Mags

[Samurai Swoosh]

Come on now, LETS KEEP IT REAL...


8-5 for THIS team and the expectations they had coming in, THUS FAR is NOT good.



There are SEVERAL alarming key points to their games, and glaring weaknesses to this team.
:pimp:

[oh the horror]

Im not talking about the god damn BULLS RECORD. Im talking about IN GENERAL NOW....You're going to sit there, with a straight face, and tell everyone on this board, that you feel a team with this much talent, is okay with a record of 8-5??


Some of you are playing yourselves. You know when the season started, if anyone told you they'd be 8-5, that you would have laughed. Hell, I WOULD have laughed.

[PianoMan]

Im not talking about the god damn BULLS RECORD. Im talking about IN GENERAL NOW....You're going to sit there, with a straight face, and tell everyone on this board, that you feel a team with this much talent, is okay with a record of 8-5??


Some of you are playing yourselves. You know when the season started, if anyone told you they'd be 8-5, that you would have laughed. Hell, I WOULD have laughed.
Dude let them have some time. I mean seriously Carlos Arroyo at the Pg Position i mean who cant abuse him? But lets not blame everything on Carlos Arryoy and the Coach bad Rotation. Im sure when Miller and Wade and Haslem come back healthy we wont have to worry about losing that much. Your just one of those haters that are expecting to much from this heat team in one 13 games.

[Harion]

Im not talking about the god damn BULLS RECORD. Im talking about IN GENERAL NOW....You're going to sit there, with a straight face, and tell everyone on this board, that you feel a team with this much talent, is okay with a record of 8-5??


Some of you are playing yourselves. You know when the season started, if anyone told you they'd be 8-5, that you would have laughed. Hell, I WOULD have laughed.
i for one never expected the Heat to be undefeated or even beat the bulls record
all i expected is for them to be a shoo-in for the playoffs and probably in the top 4 in the east

but right in that opener against Boston, any high hopes i might've have been adjusted after all their weaknesses were displayed right in front of the world
and game after game my expectation started to lower approaching the level of three facepalms
simply put, Miami is playing crap

so yeah. anytime they win a game, i'd be happy

[ILLsmak]

Im not talking about the god damn BULLS RECORD. Im talking about IN GENERAL NOW....You're going to sit there, with a straight face, and tell everyone on this board, that you feel a team with this much talent, is okay with a record of 8-5??


Some of you are playing yourselves. You know when the season started, if anyone told you they'd be 8-5, that you would have laughed. Hell, I WOULD have laughed.

Especially when they've only beaten one surefire playoff team.

I was thinking about how this team wasn't going to be a contender their first year, but I didn't think they'd look this bad. I don't understand what people think is going to change to make them a contender.

I mean, I might be eating my words in the end because Bron and Wade can do some amazing things, but I bet I won't be.

How can you guys act like you are satisfied with 8-5? The team I like, the Cs, is 9-3 and I think they should be 12-0. Or maybe 11-1. A team like Miami... that was so 'good' that they made a "Heat Index" part of espn.com should be "pretty satisfied" with being 8-5? No way. If their schedule wasn't such a cupcake fest to start, they might not have won that many.

-Smak

[EnoughSaid]

Coming from a Miami fan, the Heat are looking like a 6-8th seed in the Playoffs right now. They don't look anything like Champions. No body should even be talking about the Playoffs until we can actually beat a legit team.

[TrueRob]

Well, I've seen enough to predict a massacre on Christmas Day. Gasol and Odom are gonna dominate.

[EnoughSaid]

Well, I've seen enough to predict a massacre on Christmas Day. Gasol and Odom are gonna dominate.

Still a month left. A month for Miami to actually begin being who they are hoped to be. :D

[wally_world]

We Da Noobs

[Rose]

Coming from a Miami fan, the Heat are looking like a 6-8th seed in the Playoffs right now. They don't look anything like Champions. No body should even be talking about the Playoffs until we can actually beat a legit team.
Respect dude for admitting it. you peteballa, JSH, and papayapete are the only ones that keep it real.

[Alonzo Magic]

8-5 is a little disappointing. I'm not too worried, but Spo is offensively deficient and has been for 3 seasons now. Can a brother get a screen?

[AMISTILLILL]

Where is it written that this team needs to follow the protocol of expectations set up by their critics, fans and haters? Granted, proclaiming that you're going to bring home "not five... not six... not seven" rings sets you up for people either hoping you crash and burn or expecting you to click right from the jump and dominate with ease... but, really, where did this team state "we are going to destroy from game 1 and take over immediately"?

In no way do I back the Miami Heat. Going into the season I was of course eager to see how this experiment would pan out and I, too, am alarmed by the results so far. I know the guys on this team deep down feel a bit foolish for lauding themselves as a juggernaut before they even started but people on this board act as though they HAVE to win a certain amount of games within a certain period of time to prove that the team is working. You had to expect these kinds of pitfalls in the beginning, no matter how accomplished each individual athlete is.

Boston is allowed to turn it on in the playoffs and coast through the regular season and the league and fans as a whole have accepted that. I don't expect Miami to do something QUITE that extreme but I'm sure they're much more focused on working out the kinks as a unit then coming out of the gates and tearing their competition to shreds. Perhaps they consider the regular season a trial run and near the post-season is when everything falls into place? We can't know because we aren't there yet. I just wish people would stop jumping the shark and saying the team is in ruins because they aren't winning "like they should". It's boring to hear and read.

Give them some time. I'm sure they'll work it out and if they don't the necessary changes will be made to MAKE IT work. (supporting cast, coaching staff, etc).

[asdf1990]

u do realize this team is gonna be together for more then 1 year right? only retards thought they would break the record in their first season.

[C-Webb4]

Boston won 66 games and an NBA championship in their first year together. Miami is on pace for about 48-34 and possibly a first or second round elimination.

[ReturnofJPR]

8-5 is a little disappointing. I'm not too worried, but Spo is offensively deficient and has been for 3 seasons now. Can a brother get a screen?

I guess if you have LeBronze James there is no need to worry but he's never won anything and your team continues to trot out buster after buster at both the PG and C positions which are the two most important positions in basketball. Wing positions, like SF, are a dime a dozen.

The HEAT won't be a serious threat to anyone until they get great veterans 10 cents on the dollar and take advantage of their MLE. So next year and the year after that watch out for the HEAT but not this year. Many teams will ROCK the HEAT. Especially, when Miami takes their circus on the road like tonight in Memphis how Rudy Gay owned Bron and the HEAT on a last second buzzer beater over LeBron James' head.

[stridge]

lets take away the first loss because they hadnt played together

lets take away tonights loss because wade wasnt even playing

lets take away the jazz loss because that was a damn miracle.....millsap 3 threes really??

hornets and celtics loss were legit

this team in reality is more like an 8-2 team then a 8-5 team

[chazzy]

lets take away the first loss because they hadnt played together

lets take away tonights loss because wade wasnt even playing

lets take away the jazz loss because that was a damn miracle.....millsap 3 threes really??

hornets and celtics loss were legit

this team in reality is more like an 8-2 team then a 8-5 team
:facepalm

[C-Webb4]

lets take away the first loss because they hadnt played together

lets take away tonights loss because wade wasnt even playing

lets take away the jazz loss because that was a damn miracle.....millsap 3 threes really??

hornets and celtics loss were legit

this team in reality is more like an 8-2 team then a 8-5 team
Yes, let's give every NBA team moral victories instead of actual victories. The Clippers are really 0-0 because they don't have Baron Davis. The Blazers are really 8-0 because they lost Greg Oden for the season and Roy is injured.

[Alonzo Magic]

I guess if you have LeBronze James there is no need to worry but he's never won anything and your team continues to trot out buster after buster at both the PG and C positions which are the two most important positions in basketball. Wing positions, like SF, are a dime a dozen.

The HEAT won't be a serious threat to anyone until they get great veterans 10 cents on the dollar and take advantage of their MLE. So next year and the year after that watch out for the HEAT but not this year. Many teams will ROCK the HEAT. Especially, when Miami takes their circus on the road like tonight in Memphis how Rudy Gay owned Bron and the HEAT on a last second buzzer beater over LeBron James' head.

I had the Lakers as favourites for the title before the season and the Magic ahead of us as well as Boston on the condition that KG was fully healthy. I was expecting a sharp decline from Pierce and Garnett's rejuvenation has been a bit of a shock to me, I never expected him to regain his 07/08 athleticism.

I anticipated a frontcourt deficit on a nightly basis. Watching the Heat throughout the 08/09 season with Haslem playing the 5, I've had a little bit of experience watching bigs swallow us up. The Miller injury was really unfortunate, I felt he was the piece that put the team over the top to compete for a championship seriously.

The major issue is Spoelstra's insistence on neglecting the offence. I didn't like the fact that he felt as though the team could just coast through talent, which was evident at the Garden.

[d.bball.guy]

no Wade....read the game notebook

[ReturnofJPR]

I had the Lakers as favourites for the title before the season and the Magic ahead of us as well as Boston on the condition that KG was fully healthy. I was expecting a sharp decline from Pierce and Garnett's rejuvenation has been a bit of a shock to me, I never expected him to regain his 07/08 athleticism.

I anticipated a frontcourt deficit on a nightly basis. Watching the Heat throughout the 08/09 season with Haslem playing the 5, I've had a little bit of experience watching bigs swallow us up. The Miller injury was really unfortunate, I felt he was the piece that put the team over the top to compete for a championship seriously.

The major issue is Spoelstra's insistence on neglecting the offence. I didn't like the fact that he felt as though the team could just coast through talent, which was evident at the Garden.

Wise words. You actually seem like a level headed Heat fan which is more rare than a blue moon. rep for that. That leads me to believe that you were an actual HEAT fan before the tranny and Bronze came to South Beach.

[nbacardDOTnet]

We Da Noobs

:oldlol:

[Alonzo Magic]

Wise words. You actually seem like a level headed Heat fan which is more rare than a blue moon. rep for that. That leads me to believe that you were an actual HEAT fan before the tranny and Bronze came to South Beach.

There are plenty of level headed Heat fans. Even on this forum, quite a few of them had gone for good after LeBron made his decision. Continuous patronising comments towards a person's team can get a little grating. Unfortunately Jeff is more worried about site hits rather than the quality of the board.

[jrong]

They don't look anything like Champions.

This is 100+% true. The Lakers and the Celtics are completely in another class should the Heat face those teams at some point in the playoffs, and honestly I'm not sure they are even good enough to make it far enough to even play the Celtics, let alone the Lakers.

[B-Easy]

dissapointing start ..

But right now theyre still trying to figure out the rotation. Our starting C Joel Anthony doesnt even play anymore and Arroyo got benched in the 4th quarter for Chalmers.

Things will play out and the rotation is gonna be set soon.. this team is still winning 60+ games.

[ashbelly]

There are plenty of level headed Heat fans. Even on this forum, quite a few of them had gone for good after LeBron made his decision. Continuous patronising comments towards a person's team can get a little grating. Unfortunately Jeff is more worried about site hits rather than the quality of the board.


:oldlol: :oldlol: You are ashamed of your team because they added more superstars ? Anyway what i've said about this team and lebron carrying the Offensive load until mike miller comes back is true.. we will lose or come close to losing many games when he Carries the offensive load.. Mainly because he's the Main PG of the Team, him scoring alot takes away from his distribution of the ball, which leads to Players going cold, especially james jones and eddie house and our offense stagnates..

Eddie house actually played well tonight, our lack of going to the freethrow line made us lose the game. we only shot 12 FT's tonight when we normally average 22 FT's Per game. Haslem getting injured in tonights game was huge too, zack randolph got his way with him being out. Not making excuses, but we need mike miller to free up Lebron to score and grab rebounds. i still hate that we had to cut Pat beverly, He was good defensively/rebounding and ball distribution with minimal turnovers.. The record means nothing so far.

[ashbelly]

This is 100+% true. The Lakers and the Celtics are completely in another class should the Heat face those teams at some point in the playoffs, and honestly I'm not sure they are even good enough to make it far enough to even play the Celtics, let alone the Lakers.


I've marked this down for when the playoffs get here..

[barbaroi]

lets take away the first loss because they hadnt played together

lets take away tonights loss because wade wasnt even playing

lets take away the jazz loss because that was a damn miracle.....millsap 3 threes really??

hornets and celtics loss were legit

this team in reality is more like an 8-2 team then a 8-5 team
Let's take away the suns loss because that was a damn miracle... 22 threes really??

Let's take away the Denver loss because we had a big 4th quarter lead and choked it away.

The Lakers are undefeated in reality!!

[Mr. Jabbar]

Miami failed at its conception, and now it fails at execution. Nothing to see here, move along.

[cashbelly]

CHAMPIONSHIP CRUISE!!!

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:
:djparty :hammertime: :party:

[Fizdale]

Losses so far:

1. @ BOS - Rusty Wade, first game together, away, playing in a hyped up Boston crowd who was like 4 pts away from the title last season. Not bad.

2. @ NOH - Terrible loss for us. We made Emeka Okafor look like Hakeem Olajuwon. Talent almost got us back into the game and steal it, but a loss is a loss. We sucked.

3. vs. UTA - Millsap. LOL. Nuff said.

4. vs. BOS - Wade kinda choked and Bosh just watched Rondo dunk, the effort wasnt there yet again - we didn't play well until the 4th q. We deserved to lose.

5. @ MEM - No Wade, lost UD, 2nd night of a b2b but there's no excuses. That was a very winnable game and I give Memphis all credit they all deserve, unlike other Heat fans who are putting up all excuses possible. Memphis wanted it more than us, bottomline. They deserved it.

Overall, I would say we definitely had some tough breaks like Ray Allen's dagger 3 in opening night, Trevor Ariza's Dagger 3, Millsap miracle, and Rudy Gay's game winner but I still like our chances. I would still prefer a different coach other than Spo, though. Or if not, I would like to see more improvements from him -- better schemes, better rotation and hopefully, a healthy roster since Wade, UD and Mike are all out. I hope Riley picks up Damp. As much as I love Stack -- he's done. Damp wont be that major game changer, but will help Miami in some ways and improve the atrocious FC a bit.

[MakeHistory78]

They haven't good chemistry..
I don't think any basketball known wait Heat to win 70+ games this year..Is a new team..Perhaps next years they would have their chance..Not this year...
But this doesn't mean that they can't win it all...
If I remember correctly 2006 Heat won 52 games but they won the ring...
The question is...Can any team beat the Heat after 4-5 months in best of 7 series?They will be a better team after 60+ games.Now they aren't so good but they will develop...

[Jan95]

2 star players, 1 starter and 9 bench players... no, this team is not ready to be champions.

[ashbelly]

2 star players, 1 starter and 9 bench players... no, this team is not ready to be champions.


99% of other teams have 1 star player, 1 starter and 10 bench players, I like our chances :oldlol:

[chazzy]

99% of other teams have 1 star player, 1 starter and 10 bench players, I like our chances :oldlol:
Maybe Lebron should've listened to you http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4515302&postcount=12

[DeronMillsap]

Maybe Lebron should've listened to you http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4515302&postcount=12
bandwagon much? :roll:

[crosso√er]

I do think they've been very unclucky in losing as many games as they have. 4 of the 5 losses all went to the last few seconds, where everything that could've gone wrong did. The only game where they were truly outplayed was the game against Boston last week. This team could easily be 11-2 right now.


11-2 or 8-5; from watching this team play, they could just as easily be worse then 8-5. They are no where near an 11-2 status; they have a lot of glaring weaknesses they need to address. All they got right now is a lot of talent and the foundation to build around.

[crosso√er]

99% of other teams have 1 star player, 1 starter and 10 bench players, I like our chances :oldlol:

What?

[NoName22]

2 star players, 1 starter and 9 bench players... no, this team is not ready to be champions.

Yeah, let's forget that Bosh is a 5 time all star and just came from a 24/11 season :facepalm

[rammerman]

hopefully it continues, they start in-fighting, and self destruct.

[leopoldstotch]

so what's the O/U in the day pat the rat comes in, fires spoelstra, and takes over the head coaching duties? :lol

[mashbelly]

CHAMPIONSHIP CRUISE!!!

:pimp: :pimp: :pimp:
:djparty :hammertime: :party:

MY MAIN MAN!!


WE DA BESS


DA BESS

DA BESS

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Xover]

http://northstationsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/lebron-wade-bosh.jpg
http://www.dumbelievable.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/Lebron-Wade-Bosh.jpg

[C-Webb4]

Yeah, let's forget that Bosh is a 5 time all star and just came from a 24/11 season :facepalm
On a sh!tty team. David Lee just came from a 20/12 season and an all-star spot as well for the Knicks.

[El Seano]

lets take away the first loss because they hadnt played together

lets take away tonights loss because wade wasnt even playing

lets take away the jazz loss because that was a damn miracle.....millsap 3 threes really??

hornets and celtics loss were legit

this team in reality is more like an 8-2 team then a 8-5 team

Let's take away your keyboard because you type silly things with it.

[nashisbest]

millsap = 3 consecutive threes

will never happen again in this lifetime

[bdreason]

8-5 isn't terrible for an entirley new roster. Certainly not panic worthy, especially out East.

[hawke812]

Miami not looking too good. Best of luck to their injured players on a speedy recovery.

[mamba24]

millsap = 3 consecutive threes

will never happen again in this lifetime

thats basketball expect the unexpected...did you think tim duncan would sink a 3 in the playoffs against the suns?

Did you think Ron artest would be the hero of game 7 when he sucked the rest of the series?

did you think that the young chicago bulls would take the celtics to 7 games?

did you think wesley matthews would sink the game winner for utah against the cavs?

Its those players who you least expect who mostly put the nail in the coffin against the teams who think they can walk all over them.

The nba is bigger than lebron or any other big time superstar...Its pure will...and i for one love the fact these small name guys keep proving all you superstar nut huggers that the nba is a team game and not a solo game..

[Andrei89]

thats basketball expect the unexpected...did you think tim duncan would sink a 3 in the playoffs against the suns?

Did you think Ron artest would be the hero of game 7 when he sucked the rest of the series?

did you think that the young chicago bulls would take the celtics to 7 games?

did you think wesley matthews would sink the game winner for utah against the cavs?

Its those players who you least expect who mostly put the nail in the coffin against the teams who think they can walk all over them.

The nba is bigger than lebron or any other big time superstar...Its pure will...and i for one love the fact these small name guys keep proving all you superstar nut huggers that the nba is a team game and not a solo game..


Sundiana Gaines

[Droid101]

Without Wade, this team has a worst supporting cast than last year's Cavs did. No surprise.

[crisoner]

Haslem is a huge loss for this team.

But really 8-5.....I am not shocked at that.
I'm not making excuses for them but come on...brand new team it will take a while to learn to play together. All the expectations from the hype about going 70 plus wins...winning a championship this year etc. is just that...HYPE.

Reality check....it takes time to become a dominate TEAM. They have 2 great players that...one good player in Bosh....and I say two or three decent role players with Miller (injured), Haslem (Injured), and House (great scorer off the bench).

They have no true PG...they lack bigmen who play like bigmen. And they have a young coach who can be good but might be over his head with this situation. That being said this version of "The Big Three" talents at the moment do not seem to mesh as perfect as the "Big Three" in Boston.

Look at it...

Ray Allen - Pure shooter....probably best in the game. Great away from the ball gets open running off screens to shoot.

Paul Peirce - Can create his own shots and draw fouls. Needs ball in his hand to be most effective.

KG - Defense Defense Defense. Intense player and leader.

Then look at the Heat...

LerBon - Needs the ball in his hand to be most effective. Great driving in. Great court vision...quick strong can chase down people like no other.

Wade - Needs ball in his hand to be most effective. Great driving in creating contact etc.

Bosh - Needs ball in his hand to be most effective. Plays great facing the basket.


See....it just doesn't measure up for the Heat. Yes they have two of the best 5 player in the NBA on one team...but this is a TEAM game. They need more peices to become a great team.

[crisoner]

Without Wade, this team has a worst supporting cast than last year's Cavs did. No surprise.


True...but is Wade the support on this team? Or LeBron? Who should have more control of the offense? I say LeBron of course but is Wade skills suited for being a number two guy playing along side LeBron? Wade should be leading his own team.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

the 8-5 record isn't what that is shocking me. Its their lost confidence that really shocks me. For a team stacked with 3 superstars, they seemed a bit confused even during interviews and second guessing(speculation) themselves. Bosh admitted things like its tough, adjustment period, 1 one 1 chat with LeBron, and even admitted he wasn't that close to LeBron. Those comments should not be talked about.

Seems like everytime Bosh makes some comments which has been blown out of poportion, he feels he must defend himself.

Lebron seemed too contempt in rebuilding his image instead of stepping up and carrying this team on his back. Clearly he is the BEST player on the team and Bosh/Wade needs to learn how to play off of him.


Miami has the talent to win, they just need SWAGGER!

[Rose]

thats basketball expect the unexpected...did you think tim duncan would sink a 3 in the playoffs against the suns?

Did you think Ron artest would be the hero of game 7 when he sucked the rest of the series?

did you think that the young chicago bulls would take the celtics to 7 games?

did you think wesley matthews would sink the game winner for utah against the cavs?

Its those players who you least expect who mostly put the nail in the coffin against the teams who think they can walk all over them.

The nba is bigger than lebron or any other big time superstar...Its pure will...and i for one love the fact these small name guys keep proving all you superstar nut huggers that the nba is a team game and not a solo game..
:bowdown:

[HBKMGa]

At least they're still second in Hollinger's rankings :banana:

[crisoner]

Miami has the talent to win, they just need SWAGGER!


No they do not.

- No interior defense

- No true point guard

- Young coach who has never coached big games

- "The so called big three" all need the ball in their hands to be most effective

[Hagbard]

You see the trivial, and miss the big picture. It's the same logical fallacy most fans are guilty of.


thats basketball expect the unexpected...did you think tim duncan would sink a 3 in the playoffs against the suns?

The relevant question is, "Did I think the fundamentally sound Spurs would defeat the flippant and gimmicky Suns in a long series?" The answer, of course, is yes. The rest was just details. Logic won out.


Did you think Ron artest would be the hero of game 7 when he sucked the rest of the series?

I thought the Lakers would win. They did. The better team won a seven game series. The rest was just details. Logic won out.


did you think that the young chicago bulls would take the celtics to 7 games?

I thought the Celtics would win. They did. The better team won a seven game series. The rest was just details. Logic won out.


did you think wesley matthews would sink the game winner for utah against the cavs?

I have no idea what this even refers to. Some meaningless regular season contest that had no effect on the season of either team, most likely.


Its those players who you least expect who mostly put the nail in the coffin against the teams who think they can walk all over them.

The nba is bigger than lebron or any other big time superstar...Its pure will...and i for one love the fact these small name guys keep proving all you superstar nut huggers that the nba is a team game and not a solo game..

And see, everything you wrote here is just so completely wrong as to be entirely ass backwards. In every example above, THE BIG GUY WON. In every example above, THINGS WENT EXACTLY AS EXPECTED. In every example above, the "superstars" you go out of your way to say are irrelevant, in fact contributed so much over the course of the series or season that the "nut huggers" were once again proven to be correct, and smarter about basketball than you. Those nails in the coffin never arrived. They never do.

And it's why, over the course of a season, a Miami team loaded with this much top-level talent is going to win out as well. Logic always triumphs. The best players always win. The little guy with the heart of a giant who tries as hard as he can and never gives up makes for a cute little highlight and maybe a motivational poster for the world's also-rans. But at the end of the day, Duncan wins. Celts win. Lakers win. Lebron and Wade win.

Sucks to be you.

[HBKMGa]

You see the trivial, and miss the big picture. It's the same logical fallacy most fans are guilty of.



The relevant question is, "Did I think the fundamentally sound Spurs would defeat the flippant and gimmicky Suns in a long series?" The answer, of course, is yes. The rest was just details. Logic won out.



I thought the Lakers would win. They did. The better team won a seven game series. The rest was just details. Logic won out.



I thought the Celtics would win. They did. The better team won a seven game series. The rest was just details. Logic won out.



I have no idea what this even refers to. Some meaningless regular season contest that had no effect on the season of either team, most likely.



And see, everything you wrote here is just so completely wrong as to be entirely ass backwards. In every example above, THE BIG GUY WON. In every example above, THINGS WENT EXACTLY AS EXPECTED. In every example above, the "superstars" you go out of your way to say are irrelevant, in fact contributed so much over the course of the series or season that the "nut huggers" were once again proven to be correct, and smarter about basketball than you. Those nails in the coffin never arrived. They never do.

And it's why, over the course of a season, a Miami team loaded with this much top-level talent is going to win out as well. Logic always triumphs. The best players always win. The little guy with the heart of a giant who tries as hard as he can and never gives up makes for a cute little highlight and maybe a motivational poster for the world's also-rans. But at the end of the day, Duncan wins. Celts win. Lakers win. Lebron and Wade win.

Sucks to be you.

2006-07 Dallas Mavericks

[Alhazred]

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And it's why, over the course of a season, a Miami team loaded with this much top-level talent is going to win out as well. Logic always triumphs. The best players always win. The little guy with the heart of a giant who tries as hard as he can and never gives up makes for a cute little highlight and maybe a motivational poster for the world's also-rans. But at the end of the day, Duncan wins. Celts win. Lakers win. Lebron and Wade win.

So true, remember when the '04 Lakers beat the inferior Detroit Pistons? Oh, wait....

Until Miami get's a solid defensive big who can rebound and an offense that flows better, they'll be lucky to get out of the second round. Two all-star wings and a face-up power forward do not win a championship by themselves without a solid supporting cast.

[insidehoops]

It's no big deal that the Heat lost those early games

Several of their early losses were to a few really good teams

The Heat also had no real preseason, with lots of injuries and no time to develop chemistry

They've also been playing without Mike Miller, who should be their 4th best player

(Lousy that Udonis Haslem is now out...)

No need for alarm, yet

[blondie]

I knew this shit would happen based on the 2010 allstar game when Lebron tried to outgun Wade even though wade was shooting fire and Lebron was only putting up bricks, then when Wade won allstar MVP Lebron threw a bitch tantrum.

Chemistry is important in basketball, I knew they'd be able to play Iso Lebron ball and beat the bad teams in the league but I knew they'd suck against anyone legit, btw Wade should be the one dominating the ball with Lebron playing off it, not the other way around


Did ESPN take down the countdown to 72-10 yet just like they took down the "Lebron Triple Double watch"?

[chazzy]

Did ESPN take down the countdown to 72-10 yet just like they took down the "Lebron Triple Double watch"?
They did :lol

[Vancouver-Grizz]

I knew this shit would happen based on the 2010 allstar game when Lebron tried to outgun Wade even though wade was shooting fire and Lebron was only putting up bricks, then when Wade won allstar MVP Lebron threw a bitch tantrum.


Really?? I don't recall....What happened with James again?

[blondie]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avHag9ipSbI&feature=related

here he is making excuses with Mo why they can't beat the Lakers:lol

He has always had a loser quitter attitude I have said this since his second year in the league, I used to get attacked by the Cavs homers but now it seems everyone is seeing what I've been seeing the whole time

here he is quitting on court in one of the biggest games of his career
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0

and saying "Im not an excuse guy" and has had "3 bad games in a 7 year career"

He's not an excuse guy but was making excuses to Mo earlier in the year about why they couldnt beat the Lakers:lol

[ronniec]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=avHag9ipSbI&feature=related

here he is making excuses with Mo why they can't beat the Lakers:lol

He has always had a loser quitter attitude I have said this since his second year in the league, I used to get attacked by the Cavs homers but now it seems everyone is seeing what I've been seeing the whole time

here he is quitting on court in one of the biggest games of his career
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4d-Mnfz6iB0

and saying "Im not an excuse guy" and has had "3 bad games in a 7 year career"

He's not an excuse guy but was making excuses to Mo earlier in the year about why they couldnt beat the Lakers:lol

:lol :lol :lol

you are damn right.

[ninephive]

This thread is meaningless. The fact is the Heat have a bright future and are title contenders for the next 6-7 years. Don't know about the OP's team. It's crucial for this team to lose early, so they can learn the flaws and reintegrate. Basic.

Amazing clutch shot by Rudy but in fact, the Grizzlies will never make the NBA finals with the Lakers running the West.
How do you know the Heat will be title contenders for the next 6-7 years? They are on pace to win 50 games maybe. I know that is good enough to usually get a top 4 seed in the East, but why are they already title contenders?