Spoelstra calls out LeBron in front of Teammates: "I Can't Tell When You're Serious"

[Jordan-esque]

Although the main article has been posted before, would like to focus on the big reason for all this tension between the player(s) and the coaching staff.

ESPN's Chris Broussard (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/truehoop/miamiheat/news/story?id=5862172)


In contrast to the popular view that Spoelstra has been hesitant to jump on Wade, LeBron James and Chris Bosh, sources say the Heat coach has shown no fear in criticizing them.

Exhibit A was a recent shootaround in which Spoelstra told LeBron James that he had to get more serious. The source said Spoelstra called James out in front of the entire team, telling him, "I can't tell when you're serious."

"He's (Spoelstra) jumping on them," one Heat source said. "If anything, he's been too tough on them. Everybody knows LeBron is playful and likes to joke around, but Spoelstra told him in front of the whole team that he has to get more serious. The players couldn't believe it! They feel like Spoelstra's not letting them be themselves."

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

lol...guess what Pat would say to this clown...:roll:

[Noah Rose]

lol...guess what Pat would say to this clown...:roll:

LeBron on how Easy playing with the Heat would be that Pat Riley can come out of Retirement and PLAY (http://www.nba.com/heat/news/on_stage_interview_wade_bosh_james_2010_07_10.html ):

"We're going to challenge each other in practice. And the way we're going to challenge each other to get better in practice. Once the game starts, I mean, it's going to be easy. I mean, with me and Dwyane Wade running a wing, Pat could come back and play like he was back in his Kentucky days. Just throw it up there, we're going to get it."

In LeBron's fantasy, he would just say "Yo Bron... CATCH!"

[RaininThrees]

TBL killed this. After reading, it's pretty obvious Lebron's people planted this story:

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/11/29/the-heat-are-frustrated-with-erik-spoelstra-lebrons-people-did-a-great-job-planting-that-story/

[QUOTE]ESPN

[ronniec]

Spoelstra is THE MAN!!!

[PowerGlove]

That's a whole lot of speculation.

[Rose]

TBL killed this. After reading, it's pretty obvious Lebron's people planted this story:

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/11/29/the-heat-are-frustrated-with-erik-spoelstra-lebrons-people-did-a-great-job-planting-that-story/
That's a really good article. thanks for posting it

[Premeditated]

This nikka LeBojangles thinks practice should be nothing but dance lessons and sh1t. If he's complaining about Spoelstra now, just imagine if Riley comes down from the booth and start coaching? That probably explains why Wade is strongly supporting Riley.

[Vancouver-Grizz]

I give the coach some props for speaking up. 9-8 record for a paper championship team is no joking matter considering the big targets on their backs.

Killer instinct was what seperated Carter/McGrady to Kobe. And you can clearly see that is what seperating LeBron to the greats. Get serious and hold your teamates accountable. I hate using Jordan as an example but if anyone F'ed around in practice or shoot arounds, he would of kicked their asses.

Practice effort leads to game effort.

I agree with the coach....Get SERIOUS!

[PowerGlove]

I give the coach some props for speaking up. 9-8 record for a paper championship team is no joking matter considering the big targets on their backs.

Killer instinct was what seperated Carter/McGrady to Kobe. And you can clearly see that is what seperating LeBron to the greats. Get serious and hold your teamates accountable. I hate using Jordan as an example but if anyone F'ed around in practice or shoot arounds, he would of kicked their asses.

Practice effort leads to game effort.

I agree with the coach....Get SERIOUS!
:facepalm

[Lakers12]

I give the coach some props for speaking up. 9-8 record for a paper championship team is no joking matter considering the big targets on their backs.

Killer instinct was what seperated Carter/McGrady to Kobe. And you can clearly see that is what seperating LeBron to the greats. Get serious and hold your teamates accountable. I hate using Jordan as an example but if anyone F'ed around in practice or shoot arounds, he would of kicked their asses.

Practice effort leads to game effort.

I agree with the coach....Get SERIOUS!

we're talking about PRACTICE. PRACTICE, NOT A GAME. BUT PRACTICE.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

:lol :lol

Spo has never called out Beasley:banana:

[OhNoTimNoSho]

TBL killed this. After reading, it's pretty obvious Lebron's people planted this story:

http://thebiglead.com/index.php/2010/11/29/the-heat-are-frustrated-with-erik-spoelstra-lebrons-people-did-a-great-job-planting-that-story/
But that only makes Lebron look like a whiny girl who can't handle pressure, oh sniffle sniffle, I can't be myself. :(

[bagelred]

Spoelstra holding knife in Lebron's mouth: "Why so NOT serious?"

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Spo must have watched Game 5:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[Samurai Swoosh]

But that only makes Lebron look like a whiny girl who can't handle pressure, oh sniffle sniffle, I can't be myself. :(
Where have you been since July? Dude acted like a girl on twitter by re-posting hate mail trying to earn sympathy points. The Nike commercial? Complaining recently about how suprised he is about how many boos he recieves EVERYWHERE he goes. Kid is a whiny little girl.

Just to incite a reaction wink, wink

You didn't see Kobe crying when he was being ACCUSED and going to TRIAL for rape, and hearing lude personal comments everywhere he went in 2004, and 2005. He didn't say I'm the victim in Nike ads. He didn't post on facebook or twitter. He went out and hit GAME WINNERS as vindication.

It's all about how mentally strong one is. LeBron is not that. Go bite your nails, b i t c h

[tpols]

:facepalm
Early in their careers all three of these guys had the killer instinct and we're somewhat similar players (think 05 VC, 03 tmac, and 03 kobe) but kobe really showed up his whole career in this department while carter has had serious motivation issues (which correlate to lack of effort/confidence which leads to a lack of being clutch) and mcgrady has tapered off with injuries. It really isn't fair to say they're on the same level when both have never led a team anywhere in the playoffs and kobe has for years and is a 5 time champion.

[stephanieg]

Kobe and Dwight go to learn low post moves with Hakeem during the summer. LeBron makes a one hour ESPN special.

Even chronically lazy underachievers like Rasheed and Vince have more well rounded skillsets than LeBron.

[Hulk Hogan]

What should I do? Should I stop dancing in-front of my coach? Should I stop bringing my girls to practice? What should I do? :oldlol:

[blacknapalm]

so according to his camp, it has more to do with personality issues than actual coaching (x's and o's). i think it's possible that lebron doesn't handle criticism well and spo is bringing the heat. he's holding everybody accountable. it seems off because i don't see him taking full command of huddles but i guess he's different in practice. btw, that TBL article was real good.

[PowerGlove]

Early in their careers all three of these guys had the killer instinct and we're somewhat similar players (think 05 VC, 03 tmac, and 03 kobe) but kobe really showed up his whole career in this department while carter has had serious motivation issues (which correlate to lack of effort/confidence which leads to a lack of being clutch) and mcgrady has tapered off with injuries. It really isn't fair to say they're on the same level when both have never led a team anywhere in the playoffs and kobe has for years and is a 5 time champion.
:facepalm

Killer instinct=will to win in fancy terms. You cant tell me T-mac didnt want to win.

[Faberg]

Where have you been since July? Dude acted like a girl on twitter by re-posting hate mail trying to earn sympathy points. The Nike commercial? Complaining recently about how suprised he is about how many boos he recieves EVERYWHERE he goes. Kid is a whiny little girl.

Just to incite a reaction wink, wink

You didn't see Kobe crying when he was being ACCUSED and going to TRIAL for rape, and hearing lude personal comments everywhere he went in 2004, and 2005. He didn't say I'm the victim in Nike ads. He didn't post on facebook or twitter. He went out and hit GAME WINNERS as vindication.

It's all about how mentally strong one is. LeBron is not that. Go bite your nails, b i t c h

:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Crown&Coke]

Someone please tell these guys that Riley is not an easy coach to play for. He goes hard in practice and is very intense. You have a couple missed rotations, then you will have your ass handed to you in front of the world. Maybe he might have soften a little, but not enough for these divas liking.

Spo might be getting some neg press right now, but Riley will make these dudes cry if he has to come to the sidelines.

[Hulk Hogan]

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[OhNoTimNoSho]

Where have you been since July? Dude acted like a girl on twitter by re-posting hate mail trying to earn sympathy points. The Nike commercial? Complaining recently about how suprised he is about how many boos he recieves EVERYWHERE he goes. Kid is a whiny little girl.

Just to incite a reaction wink, wink

You didn't see Kobe crying when he was being ACCUSED and going to TRIAL for rape, and hearing lude personal comments everywhere he went in 2004, and 2005. He didn't say I'm the victim in Nike ads. He didn't post on facebook or twitter. He went out and hit GAME WINNERS as vindication.

It's all about how mentally strong one is. LeBron is not that. Go bite your nails, b i t c h
You know it makes you think that back in the day players were MEN and nowadays they are boys.

[jbryan1984]

lol, the Miami Heat have seriously become a huge joke. I'm from NE Ohio man and I feel bad for LeBron! He is so far in with making the wrong choice, I don't think he will ever reclaim what he had.

[crisoner]

http://hicsuntdracones.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/the-dark-knight_the-joker_why-so-serious.jpg

[the_wise_one]

You didn't see Kobe crying when he was being ACCUSED and going to TRIAL for rape, and hearing lude personal comments everywhere he went in 2004, and 2005. He didn't say I'm the victim in Nike ads. He didn't post on facebook or twitter. He went out and hit GAME WINNERS as vindication.


Wrong. Kobe was so afraid he snitched on Shaq. Both Kobe and Lebron are *******, the only difference is, Stern got Kobe's back.

[Toni]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNgf6fd88g8

[Samurai Swoosh]

Wrong. Kobe was so afraid he snitched on Shaq. Both Kobe and Lebron are *******, the only difference is, Stern got Kobe's back.
In the police interview? yea ... and it was an off handed comment. LOL @ people calling it snitching. He wasn't trying to get someone in trouble. Those police interviews aren't even supposed to see the light of day. It was leaked because of his celebrity.

No, Kobe is clearly a really mentally tough person. To go what he went through in a three year stretch, and have the balls to show up on the court and perform, at a high level no less?

That takes heart, my dude.

He made basketball his sanctuary and took his aggressions out on the game it self.

LeBron ... he whines and posts on twitter.

LOL @ "Stern having Kobe's back" and not LeBrons. If one were to believe such an asinine conspiracy, it would be the total opposite.

[thejumpa]

In the police interview? yea ... and it was an off handed comment. LOL @ people calling it snitching. He wasn't trying to get someone in trouble. Those police interviews aren't even supposed to see the light of day. It was leaked because of his celebrity.

No, Kobe is clearly a really mentally tough person. To go what he went through in a three year stretch, and have the balls to show up on the court and perform, at a high level no less?

That takes heart, my dude.

He made basketball his sanctuary and took his aggressions out on the game it self.

LeBron ... he whines and posts on twitter.

LOL @ "Stern having Kobe's back" and not LeBrons. If one were to believe such an asinine conspiracy, it would be the total opposite.

Mentally tough my ass. I give Kobe his props but that's where it stops. Even if he didn't mean to do any harm, he still opened his mouth when he shouldn't have. Speaking on another mans personal situation like that is a no-no. IDK...but that's snitching to me. Just because it was supposed to be private means nothing. Not that it matters now but still....

[SoCalMike]

Mentally tough my ass. I give Kobe his props but that's where it stops. Even if he didn't mean to do any harm, he still opened his mouth when he shouldn't have. Speaking on another mans personal situation like that is a no-no. IDK...but that's snitching to me. Just because it was supposed to be private means nothing. Not that it matters now but still....

oh no, Colorado got brought into this discussion? how??? its not relevant, is it?




:pimp:

[Samurai Swoosh]

Mentally tough my ass. I give Kobe his props but that's where it stops. Even if he didn't mean to do any harm, he still opened his mouth when he shouldn't have. Speaking on another mans personal situation like that is a no-no. IDK...but that's snitching to me. Just because it was supposed to be private means nothing. Not that it matters now but still....
What does that have to deal with the extreme mental toughness it takes to play through the off court situation he was handling?

I don't consider that snitching. He didn't announce it to the world. He made an off handed remark, in a highly stressful interview with police, who are insinuating he raped a young female.

You don't see how someone could slip up and say something they may regret in a situation like that? He said "I should pay my woman like Shaq does" ... if you read the actual interview, police were trying to sound casual as hell with him. He said something he shouldn't have ... or not got as specific as he did. But it sure as hell isn't snitching. Kobe didn't say ... hey, Shaq is doing something illegal, go arrest him. He wasn't saying what he said to break up Shaq's marriage.

The only reason Shaq found out was because the interview was leaked to the public via the smoking gun.

You saw what happened to Tiger Woods? Wilted under his off the court issues.

Kobe played well through out his extreme off the court issues. Dude was possibly facing a life in prison while going out there and hitting game winners on the Nuggets, hearing vicious personal comments every stadium he went to ...

You kidding me? Bryant is the definition of mental toughness as it pertains to basketball. That's why he's a killer. Thats why he will continue to shoot even when he's missing, cause he knows it will eventually fall. It's that same mental toughness that allows someone to go out and score 81, etc.

F uck outta here dude ... Kobe is the very defintion of mental toughness.

[thejumpa]

oh no, Colorado got brought into this discussion? how??? its not relevant, is it?




:pimp:

Yes, it is relevant.

[thejumpa]

What does that have to deal with the extreme mental toughness it takes to play through the off court situation he was handling?

I don't consider that snitching. He didn't announce it to the world. He made an off handed remark, in a highly stressful interview with police, who are insinuating he raped a young female.

You don't see how someone could slip up and say something they may regret in a situation like that? He said "I should pay my woman like Shaq does" ... if you read the actual interview, police were trying to sound casual as hell with him. He said something he shouldn't have ... or not got as specific as he did. But it sure as hell isn't snitching. Kobe didn't say ... hey, Shaq is doing something illegal, go arrest him. He wasn't saying what he said to break up Shaq's marriage.

The only reason Shaq found out was because the interview was leaked to the public via the smoking gun.

You saw what happened to Tiger Woods? Wilted under his off the court issues.

Kobe played well through out his extreme off the court issues. Dude was possibly facing a life in prison while going out there and hitting game winners on the Nuggets, hearing vicious personal comments every stadium he went to ...

You kidding me? Bryant is the definition of mental toughness as it pertains to basketball. That's why he's a killer. Thats why he will continue to shoot even when he's missing, cause he knows it will eventually fall. It's that same mental toughness that allows someone to go out and score 81, etc.

F uck outta here dude ... Kobe is the very defintion of mental toughness.

Holy shit you love Kobe huh? Bruh it's not that serious. He's a tough guy. I get that. I understand and, for the most part, agree with that. However, in my book, his comment about Shaq was snitching. It has nothing to do with shit being illegal or whatever. Whether you meant harm or not, you are unnecessarily exposing someone elses dirt. I used to do that shit frequently as a kid and cats would call me a snitch. I'm not talking about some crazy illegal shit lol but still. I would deny it all day until I realized one thing...that info wasn't supposed to come out and I knew it.

Once again, it doesn't matter what your intentions are. He knew that shit wasn't supposed to get out and said it anyway. You can miss me with that "highly stressful" interview BS. I supported Kobe through that whole thing but please...IMO you can't use the stress it caused as an excuse to mention something about another mans personal life. That shit had NOTHING to do with him!

[thejumpa]

And to the homo who negged me, Samurai or SoCalMike, whoever...grow up and get a life. It's called a ****ing opinion. If it wasn't yall, forgive me...but this "troll hunter" shit is immature as hell.

[comerb]

What does that have to deal with the extreme mental toughness it takes to play through the off court situation he was handling?




It's pretty easy to play ball when you have off-court situations. The court is the only place you can really get away from it.

Not that I'm downing on Kobe... just saying.

[raptorfan_dr07]

What does that have to deal with the extreme mental toughness it takes to play through the off court situation he was handling?


Holy f*cking sh*t this guy's post. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Yeah, it really takes extreme mental toughness to play through a situation in which YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG. Something that you or I would be IN JAIL for, and rightfully so. GTFO of here with that BS. Kobe was possibly facing life in prison BECAUSE HE COMMITTED A CRIME. Get it? Do you feel sorry for everyone else in this world who commit crimes and have to balance their day to day lives with court appearances? Do you consider all of them mentally tough as well? Like the old saying goes: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". The people who are the victims of violent crimes are the ones who are mentally tough. They're the ones who have to suffer the emotional stress of having to incorporate court appearances into their lives.

And if you can't see how what Kobe said was snitching on Shaq, then I don't know what to tell you. He tried to deflect attention from himself by bringing up something he had no business speaking on.

Ever since Lebron's "decision" this guy Samarai Swoosh has been non stop swinging from Kobe's d*ck. It's rather pathetic. He tries to defend Kobe for DOING SOMETHING WRONG, when the worst Lebron's done is sign with another team when his contract was up. Yes, Lebron was a little whiny b*tch on twitter, but that's a lack of maturity. Raping a woman? That says a lot more about your mental state than just immaturity.

@ SoCalMike, this guy Samarai Swoosh, a Kobe n*thugger, brought up Colorado. And no, it doesn't pertain to this discussion.

[New York Knicks]

Lol. Kobe fans all over this thread. Fun times.

[Reverend Hoops]

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[ginobli2311]

What does that have to deal with the extreme mental toughness it takes to play through the off court situation he was handling?

I don't consider that snitching. He didn't announce it to the world. He made an off handed remark, in a highly stressful interview with police, who are insinuating he raped a young female.

You don't see how someone could slip up and say something they may regret in a situation like that? He said "I should pay my woman like Shaq does" ... if you read the actual interview, police were trying to sound casual as hell with him. He said something he shouldn't have ... or not got as specific as he did. But it sure as hell isn't snitching. Kobe didn't say ... hey, Shaq is doing something illegal, go arrest him. He wasn't saying what he said to break up Shaq's marriage.

The only reason Shaq found out was because the interview was leaked to the public via the smoking gun.

You saw what happened to Tiger Woods? Wilted under his off the court issues.

Kobe played well through out his extreme off the court issues. Dude was possibly facing a life in prison while going out there and hitting game winners on the Nuggets, hearing vicious personal comments every stadium he went to ...

You kidding me? Bryant is the definition of mental toughness as it pertains to basketball. That's why he's a killer. Thats why he will continue to shoot even when he's missing, cause he knows it will eventually fall. It's that same mental toughness that allows someone to go out and score 81, etc.

F uck outta here dude ... Kobe is the very defintion of mental toughness.


are you serious? kobe wilted more than any star athlete ever has. do the 04 finals ring a bell? the worst star performance i can remember in any sport in the championships. LOL.

definition of mental toughness? thats just laughable.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I didn't wanna create another Heat thread...Anyways didn't Wade say that Spoelstra was his guy during the off-season?

[Da KO King]

Where have you been since July? Dude acted like a girl on twitter by re-posting hate mail trying to earn sympathy points. The Nike commercial? Complaining recently about how suprised he is about how many boos he recieves EVERYWHERE he goes. Kid is a whiny little girl.

Just to incite a reaction wink, wink

You didn't see Kobe crying when he was being ACCUSED and going to TRIAL for rape, and hearing lude personal comments everywhere he went in 2004, and 2005. He didn't say I'm the victim in Nike ads. He didn't post on facebook or twitter. He went out and hit GAME WINNERS as vindication.

It's all about how mentally strong one is. LeBron is not that. Go bite your nails, b i t c h
http://www.thesportspod.com/uploads/images/vanessa.jpeg

[DKLaker]

are you serious? kobe wilted more than any star athlete ever has. do the 04 finals ring a bell? the worst star performance i can remember in any sport in the championships. LOL.

definition of mental toughness? thats just laughable.


EH......Let me stop the stupidity right there....how many players in the NBA who are currently playing have 5 championship rings?????

2 RIGHT? KOBE and DFish.......it's all about the rings!!!
Why anyone would be dumb enough to troll and insinuate Kobe can't get it done in the playoffs....so stupid its funny.

When was the last time your Spurs didn't choke in the playoffs????

You got no ammo in your lame argument!!!!

[jrong]

Having been a high school teacher and a young high school teacher, I can sympathize with what Spoelstra is going through. He needs to demonstrate that he has authority-- even over the "coolest" kids or he'll get walked on. At the same time, he has to worry whether his presence itself has enough stature that those kids-- and the ones that look up to them-- will accept his assertion of authority and respect him for it.

[The_Yearning]

In the police interview? yea ... and it was an off handed comment. LOL @ people calling it snitching. He wasn't trying to get someone in trouble. Those police interviews aren't even supposed to see the light of day. It was leaked because of his celebrity.

No, Kobe is clearly a really mentally tough person. To go what he went through in a three year stretch, and have the balls to show up on the court and perform, at a high level no less?

That takes heart, my dude.

He made basketball his sanctuary and took his aggressions out on the game it self.

LeBron ... he whines and posts on twitter.

LOL @ "Stern having Kobe's back" and not LeBrons. If one were to believe such an asinine conspiracy, it would be the total opposite.

Did you just learn that word?

[the_wise_one]

Holy f*cking sh*t this guy's post. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Yeah, it really takes extreme mental toughness to play through a situation in which YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG. Something that you or I would be IN JAIL for, and rightfully so. GTFO of here with that BS. Kobe was possibly facing life in prison BECAUSE HE COMMITTED A CRIME. Get it? Do you feel sorry for everyone else in this world who commit crimes and have to balance their day to day lives with court appearances? Do you consider all of them mentally tough as well? Like the old saying goes: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". The people who are the victims of violent crimes are the ones who are mentally tough. They're the ones who have to suffer the emotional stress of having to incorporate court appearances into their lives.

And if you can't see how what Kobe said was snitching on Shaq, then I don't know what to tell you. He tried to deflect attention from himself by bringing up something he had no business speaking on.

Ever since Lebron's "decision" this guy Samarai Swoosh has been non stop swinging from Kobe's d*ck. It's rather pathetic. He tries to defend Kobe for DOING SOMETHING WRONG, when the worst Lebron's done is sign with another team when his contract was up. Yes, Lebron was a little whiny b*tch on twitter, but that's a lack of maturity. Raping a woman? That says a lot more about your mental state than just immaturity.

@ SoCalMike, this guy Samarai Swoosh, a Kobe n*thugger, brought up Colorado. And no, it doesn't pertain to this discussion.

Dude's a retarded Kobe stan, what do you expect?

[oh the horror]

Holy f*cking sh*t this guy's post. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Yeah, it really takes extreme mental toughness to play through a situation in which YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG. Something that you or I would be IN JAIL for, and rightfully so. GTFO of here with that BS. Kobe was possibly facing life in prison BECAUSE HE COMMITTED A CRIME. Get it? Do you feel sorry for everyone else in this world who commit crimes and have to balance their day to day lives with court appearances? Do you consider all of them mentally tough as well? Like the old saying goes: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". The people who are the victims of violent crimes are the ones who are mentally tough. They're the ones who have to suffer the emotional stress of having to incorporate court appearances into their lives.

And if you can't see how what Kobe said was snitching on Shaq, then I don't know what to tell you. He tried to deflect attention from himself by bringing up something he had no business speaking on.

Ever since Lebron's "decision" this guy Samarai Swoosh has been non stop swinging from Kobe's d*ck. It's rather pathetic. He tries to defend Kobe for DOING SOMETHING WRONG, when the worst Lebron's done is sign with another team when his contract was up. Yes, Lebron was a little whiny b*tch on twitter, but that's a lack of maturity. Raping a woman? That says a lot more about your mental state than just immaturity.

@ SoCalMike, this guy Samarai Swoosh, a Kobe n*thugger, brought up Colorado. And no, it doesn't pertain to this discussion.





Im sorry but this kid is literally the most out of touch with reality child we have around these parts. This post is so utterly riddled with shit that a teenager would spout off, with little to no life experience, that I dont even KNOW where to start.


Does ANYONE take this fu*king fat kid's opinion seriously anymore? This kid is the limp d*ck in a porno. Just useless shit here.


This god damn post is so ridiculous, thats its incredible. :oldlol:

[oh the horror]

And im going to say this right now for you little kids to get. I dont know HOW many of you have ever been involved in, or actually been ON TRIAL for something....especially in the case of Kobe, where it was a fu*king RAPE TRIAL.....



Do you fu*king sniveling little shits even know how mentally taxing the process is in general? Christ, you come home, EXAUSTED from being in the courtroom all day, dealing with legal jargon, lawyers, prosecution trying to toss your ass behind bars, and trying to prove your innocence.



Now you can speculate if Kobe was "guilty or not"....but the reality is, he had to try to sit there, prove his case with lawyers, partake in this legal process.

IT IS.....MENTALLY, FU*KING BEYOND EXAUSTING.



I hope to god none of you kids EVER had to deal with that....AND THEN....as an professional athlete, he had to go from trials, to play in highly intense games? AND YOU DONT NEED MENTAL TOUGHNESS? ARE YA KIDDING ME?


This isnt a pickup game at the park. This is an NBA basketball game, in the PLAYOFFS no less. This man gets paid millions to come out and perform to the highest, very top of his abilities, also dealing with the weight of the entire outcome of a fu*king trial on his mind. What are some of you even smoking?



Jesus christ, who the hell posts here?? :oldlol:



I have NO issues if you do not like Bryant, but lets KEEP IT REAL HERE KIDS. Really. And before you go into that lame ass argument of "you're a Kobe stan" or some random wack shit to try and defend yourself....get off it, I could care less about Bryant at the end of the day. But REAL TALK, IS REAL TALK. Kobe may have whined throughout his career, and said some stupid shit, but the dude is not that weak mentally. I WILL give him that much.


Some of you are far gone from the realities of the world outside of your bedroom, with the NBA live playstation game.
:facepalm

[oh the horror]

Holy f*cking sh*t this guy's post. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Yeah, it really takes extreme mental toughness to play through a situation in which YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG. Something that you or I would be IN JAIL for, and rightfully so. GTFO of here with that BS. Kobe was possibly facing life in prison BECAUSE HE COMMITTED A CRIME. .



I had to quote this again just based on how fu*king stupid and nerdy this kid must be in real life.


Let me tell you something junior...I had a buddy a year or so ago....sleep with this one broad....and you know what she did? SHE ACCUSED HIM OF RAPE, BECAUSE SHE DIDNT WANT TO FACE UP TO THE FACT THAT SHE CHEATED ON HER MAN.


Luckily it didnt get to the point of legal actions being taken, but do you, in your small little pr*ck world even know how OFTEN men get accused of rape?


The fact is...YOU DONT KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT...that Kobe commited ANY crime, other than cheating on his spouse. THATS ALL WE KNOW HERE.


Its a damn shame man...little fools like this running around, burying their brothers out there, when b*tches are known to accuse them falsely of rape. You get little fu*kers like this already ready to lynch a man, over pure speculation. You dont know shit. Stop talking fool, stop posting from here on out.

[Rose]

Dude...just chill out. No need to constantly berate him like that. He doesn't have the life experience to understand how serious rape is.

[oh the horror]

Dude...just chill out. No need to constantly berate him like that. He doesn't have the life experience to understand how serious rape is.


Sometimes kids need to be berated. Because obviously their damn parents arent doing it. Just sayin'

Like I said though, you dont even have to like Kobe...Hell, I think Kobe IS a diva himself. But the fact remains, it DOES take an amount of mental toughness to pick yourself up, after being on trial for RAPE of all things, and go out there, and do your job, without wanting to hang yourself. Shit is ROUGH.

[Rose]

Sometimes kids need to be berated. Because obviously their damn parents arent doing it. Just sayin'

Like I said though, you dont even have to like Kobe...Hell, I think Kobe IS a diva himself. But the fact remains, it DOES take an amount of mental toughness to pick yourself up, after being on trial for RAPE of all things, and go out there, and do your job, without wanting to hang yourself. Shit is ROUGH.
I agree, but personally I feel you're taking it a little too far. For all we know he's like 12 or 13.

And agreed with the last part.

[oh the horror]

I agree, but personally I feel you're taking it a little too far. For all we know he's like 12 or 13.




Ah screw em' :oldlol:

[tpols]

I had to quote this again just based on how fu*king stupid and nerdy this kid must be in real life.


Let me tell you something junior...I had a buddy a year or so ago....sleep with this one broad....and you know what she did? SHE ACCUSED HIM OF RAPE, BECAUSE SHE DIDNT WANT TO FACE UP TO THE FACT THAT SHE CHEATED ON HER MAN.


Luckily it didnt get to the point of legal actions being taken, but do you, in your small little pr*ck world even know how OFTEN men get accused of rape?


The fact is...YOU DONT KNOW WITHOUT A SHADOW OF A DOUBT...that Kobe commited ANY crime, other than cheating on his spouse. THATS ALL WE KNOW HERE.


Its a damn shame man...little fools like this running around, burying their brothers out there, when b*tches are known to accuse them falsely of rape. You get little fu*kers like this already ready to lynch a man, over pure speculation. You dont know shit. Stop talking fool, stop posting from here on out.
Dude, I didn't think kobe really did anything either but then I read the interview that was like 70 pages long and taken like a day after the incident and it sounded pretty shady the whole situation. He started banging her when he just met her. And he admitted to nutting in her face and said' it was his thing.':oldlol:

[chazzy]

I agree, but personally I feel you're taking it a little too far. For all we know he's like 12 or 13.

And agreed with the last part.
Raptorsfan has a history of taking everything too far, it's always refreshing to see people put him in his place.. lol

[Rose]

Also I'm amazed at how far off track this thread got so quickly. it's kind of impressive.:oldlol:

[Rose]

Raptorsfan has a history of taking everything too far, it's always refreshing to see people put him in his place.. lol
Really?

I've only seen him post maybe twice now. and both are in the last couple days.

I stuck up for him just in case he's a little kid, and is talking out of his ass, about things he knows nothing about.

[oh the horror]

Dude, I didn't think kobe really did anything either but then I read the interview that was like 70 pages long and taken like a day after the incident and it sounded pretty shady the whole situation. He started banging her when he just met her. And he admitted to nutting in her face and said' it was his thing.':oldlol:


Alot of things sounded shady man. I mean the girl's own people admitted to overhearing her bragging about it? The reality of it was....the lawyers on her side, PROBABLY knew of the evidense coming out, and told her "look honey, if he offers you a plea, i suggest you take it"


She would have lost the trial bro. They couldnt prove without a shadow of a doubt, that Kobe raped her. Rape trials are hard to prove ANYWAY.....But given the shit that was coming out, and the stories surrounding this broad? She had NO chance.



Frankly I dont buy that he raped her at all. Ive seen my own buddy go through it, and heard countless times about dudes from around the way being shitted on by women like that.



And dont get me wrong...if HE DID rape her...its unfortunate that she couldnt nail him....but im just not buying it. Women are SCANDELOUS. And as a man, if some broad ever accuses you of such? You'd be get on your knees and pray, because its HARD.


I just remember how deathly afraid my buddy was if some type of legal action was to be taken...he was like completely destroyed, because he KNEW how they can sock it to men in court over things like this, and he didnt even want to deal with legal processes. It SUUUUCKS.

[Harion]

you don't know how hard it is for a woman to go out and file a rape case. society is harder on women than on men. women are usually blamed, being told they brought it on themselves for being a whore or a slut. women also experience more social stigma. once you come out and say you are raped, you are seen as damaged good. some women who are raped would rather endure the silence than come out and file a case for the sheer shame it would bring her and her family.
and yet in rape cases, the onus is on the woman to prove the guilt of the accused. the burden is on the woman to prove the guilt while all the accused has to do is establish a slight reasonable doubt in the mind/s of the judge or the jurors.
now idk the facts of the case, but what i do know was there was a settlement. now if i was kobe and i was innocent, wtf would i settle for? i'd never allow that kind of shit to be hanging over my head my entire life. i'd rather see the end and clear my name than settle if i knew i can prove my innocence.
in cases where the defendant is filthy rich but is guilty and the plaintiff is poor and cannot pursue the case without being beggared, lawyers go the settlement route. the plaintiff is advised to just take the cash and have something to go on rather than pursue the case which may take years and which has no sure outcome.
i'm sure the woman was told that even if they did win, chances of kobe serving the full term would be nil. he'd get preferential treatment, get out early, and it'd be just like he served community service. maybe even less.

[MrJohnWall]

Holy shit you love Kobe huh? Bruh it's not that serious. He's a tough guy. I get that. I understand and, for the most part, agree with that. However, in my book, his comment about Shaq was snitching. It has nothing to do with shit being illegal or whatever. Whether you meant harm or not, you are unnecessarily exposing someone elses dirt. I used to do that shit frequently as a kid and cats would call me a snitch. I'm not talking about some crazy illegal shit lol but still. I would deny it all day until I realized one thing...that info wasn't supposed to come out and I knew it.

Once again, it doesn't matter what your intentions are. He knew that shit wasn't supposed to get out and said it anyway. You can miss me with that "highly stressful" interview BS. I supported Kobe through that whole thing but please...IMO you can't use the stress it caused as an excuse to mention something about another mans personal life. That shit had NOTHING to do with him!

lol @ white suburban kids acting like they know what snitching is smfh:facepalm

[MrJohnWall]

Holy f*cking sh*t this guy's post. :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Yeah, it really takes extreme mental toughness to play through a situation in which YOU DID SOMETHING WRONG. Something that you or I would be IN JAIL for, and rightfully so. GTFO of here with that BS. Kobe was possibly facing life in prison BECAUSE HE COMMITTED A CRIME. Get it? Do you feel sorry for everyone else in this world who commit crimes and have to balance their day to day lives with court appearances? Do you consider all of them mentally tough as well? Like the old saying goes: "Don't do the crime if you can't do the time". The people who are the victims of violent crimes are the ones who are mentally tough. They're the ones who have to suffer the emotional stress of having to incorporate court appearances into their lives.

And if you can't see how what Kobe said was snitching on Shaq, then I don't know what to tell you. He tried to deflect attention from himself by bringing up something he had no business speaking on.

Ever since Lebron's "decision" this guy Samarai Swoosh has been non stop swinging from Kobe's d*ck. It's rather pathetic. He tries to defend Kobe for DOING SOMETHING WRONG, when the worst Lebron's done is sign with another team when his contract was up. Yes, Lebron was a little whiny b*tch on twitter, but that's a lack of maturity. Raping a woman? That says a lot more about your mental state than just immaturity.

@ SoCalMike, this guy Samarai Swoosh, a Kobe n*thugger, brought up Colorado. And no, it doesn't pertain to this discussion.

Get mad breh. Kobe could rape kids. And i would help him hide the evidence and still make it home in time to cheer for him while he drops 50 on the raptors
get :mad:

The NBA will end before Toronto ever becomes relevant :lol:

[Doranku]

you don't know how hard it is for a woman to go out and file a rape case. society is harder on women than on men. women are usually blamed, being told they brought it on themselves for being a whore or a slut. women also experience more social stigma. once you come out and say you are raped, you are seen as damaged good. some women who are raped would rather endure the silence than come out and file a case for the sheer shame it would bring her and her family.
and yet in rape cases, the onus is on the woman to prove the guilt of the accused. the burden is on the woman to prove the guilt while all the accused has to do is establish a slight reasonable doubt in the mind/s of the judge or the jurors.
now idk the facts of the case, but what i do know was there was a settlement. now if i was kobe and i was innocent, wtf would i settle for? i'd never allow that kind of shit to be hanging over my head my entire life. i'd rather see the end and clear my name than settle if i knew i can prove my innocence.
in cases where the defendant is filthy rich but is guilty and the plaintiff is poor and cannot pursue the case without being beggared, lawyers go the settlement route. the plaintiff is advised to just take the cash and have something to go on rather than pursue the case which may take years and which has no sure outcome.
i'm sure the woman was told that even if they did win, chances of kobe serving the full term would be nil. he'd get preferential treatment, get out early, and it'd be just like he served community service. maybe even less.

To put an end to it? That case dragged on forever, I'm sure he just wanted to be done with it. Can you imagine having to balance all the court jargon, practicing, working out, flying all over the country, and playing in NBA games?

[oh the horror]

To put an end to it? That case dragged on forever, I'm sure he just wanted to be done with it. Can you imagine having to balance all the court jargon, practicing, working out, flying all over the country, and playing in NBA games?



And top it off, you're doing all of that, with the media LITERALLY chin-checking you every single moment? Being a celebrity isnt like some holiday vacation that kids seem to think it is. Now im not saying "oh boo hoo, poor celebs have it so rough", but lets face it....having EVERYTHING you do under a microscope? Thats HARD.


This is what the current big three of Miami are dealing with now, and most are SEEING for themselves just how hard it is for this fellas to swallow it down. EVERYTHING at this point that they say or comment on is being blown up out there. Public scrutiny is high as hell. Its not easy man. I would have wanted the trial to end too.


Shit, if he wouldnt have paid her off, that trial could have lasted a looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooong time.

[MrJohnWall]

you don't know how hard it is for a woman to go out and file a rape case. society is harder on women than on men. women are usually blamed, being told they brought it on themselves for being a whore or a slut. women also experience more social stigma. once you come out and say you are raped, you are seen as damaged good. some women who are raped would rather endure the silence than come out and file a case for the sheer shame it would bring her and her family.
and yet in rape cases, the onus is on the woman to prove the guilt of the accused. the burden is on the woman to prove the guilt while all the accused has to do is establish a slight reasonable doubt in the mind/s of the judge or the jurors.
now idk the facts of the case, but what i do know was there was a settlement. now if i was kobe and i was innocent, wtf would i settle for? i'd never allow that kind of shit to be hanging over my head my entire life. i'd rather see the end and clear my name than settle if i knew i can prove my innocence.
in cases where the defendant is filthy rich but is guilty and the plaintiff is poor and cannot pursue the case without being beggared, lawyers go the settlement route. the plaintiff is advised to just take the cash and have something to go on rather than pursue the case which may take years and which has no sure outcome.
i'm sure the woman was told that even if they did win, chances of kobe serving the full term would be nil. he'd get preferential treatment, get out early, and it'd be just like he served community service. maybe even less.
lol stop it

when a white women accuse a black man of rape

He is guilty unless he can prove himself innocent.
Females are always protected in court

some girl got a guy locked up for rape. There was no DNA evidence.
rape kit came back negative and he still got sentenced for 20 years

she eventually confessed she lied after he served 4 years

[dbronx42]

It's absolutely hilarious that this topic went from Lebron getting called out in front of his teammates, into a moral discussion about rape in America... Just shutup already and talk about basketball...

The Lebitch vs Kobe arguments have just become tiring and stupid... Let us know once James gets a ring and stops pimping his own useless MVP awards.

kthxbye.

[monkeypox]

All anyone really should need to know about the rape case was that both sides had essentially the same story at the beginning, but she changed her story after she was told it didn't constitute rape. I mean, they tried to charge him for kidnapping because blocked a doorway and told her to calm down. Besides that, just the stuff on her side, the stuff the prosecution leaked, made no sense logically, and you can only use the "well rape victims can act strangely" excuse to cover so much of it.

The whole "snitching" thing is blown way out of proportion considering it was something said during an informal conversation that wasn't part of the investigation and wasn't added to the report till months later. Considering Shaq has talked about other peoples personal lives in interviews with the media, something said to the police in a private conversation isn't that bad, particularly when you consider he was still thinking he'd just pay his way out.

[DCL]

It's absolutely hilarious that this topic went from Lebron getting called out in front of his teammates, into a moral discussion about rape in America...

people just love to argue here... regardless of topic. didn't ya know? :lol

[Samurai Swoosh]

lol @ white suburban kids acting like they know what snitching is smfh:facepalm
That too ... in no way shape or form was that snitching.

:facepalm

[Samurai Swoosh]

http://www.thesportspod.com/uploads/images/vanessa.jpeg
I wasn't speaking of the literal act of crying. Kobe being justified in shedding tears over his public humiliation and a public apology to his wife, fans, organization, etc.

LeBron James "crying" in the sense of a spoiled rich teenage white girl who isn't having things go his way or the way he envisioned

I picture LeBron being one of those spoiled, dumb white chicks on MTV's "Sweet Sixteen" show where rich parents throw elaborate parties for their children, and somehow the spoiled brats always find something to complain, b itch, and moan about ...

Thus LeBron being the spoiled, whiny, crying little girl.

[thejumpa]

lol @ white suburban kids acting like they know what snitching is smfh:facepalm

You're speaking to someone else, son. What I described actually is snitching and you don't agree, fine. I'm just saying...that's what I was taught since I was a little kid so I don't know any other definition. You and Samurai can have your different definitions if you want, but no one is a white suburban kid acting like they know what something is.

[bagelred]

Spoelestra "Lebron, I can't tell if you're serious."

Lebron "Oh yeah?...well, I can't tell if you're white!"

Spoelestra "........touchee........."

[thejumpa]

That too ... in no way shape or form was that snitching.

:facepalm

Whatever homie....it seems that it's nearly impossible to have a conversation criticizing Kobe with a Kobe fanatic. Way too much sensitivity involved. I guess I'll just leave it at that.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Whatever homie....it seems that it's nearly impossible to have a conversation criticizing Kobe with a Kobe fanatic. Way too much sensitivity involved. I guess I'll just leave it at that.
Kobe fanatic? Nah, just the truth. Everyone without an agenda knows Kobe is mentally strong.

Yeah ... kind of like debating the sensitivity of annoying, whiny, b itchy starbucks drinking Seattle residents complaining about a lack of business ethics and questioning the legality of Supersonics owner moving the team to OKC (in your book, is that snitching too? I mean you're putting the owner's 'business' out there ...)

:oldlol:

[thejumpa]

Kobe fanatic? Nah, just the truth. Everyone without an agenda knows Kobe is mentally strong.

Yeah ... kind of like debating the sensitivity of annoying, whiny, b itchy starbucks drinking Seattle residents complaining about a lack of business ethics and questioning the legality of Supersonics owner moving the team to OKC (in your book, is that snitching too? I mean you're putting the owner's 'business' out there ...)

:oldlol:

My man...you sound like a kid. An immature one at that. If you think questioning the business ethics/legality of a sports team owner and Kobe mentioning what Shaq does in his personal life is comparable, then I don't know what to tell you.

Go show me an instance where a "annoying,whiny,bitchy, starbucks drinking Seattle resident" put the owners business out there in an uncessary manner. All of that was necessary as it pertained directly to the city and situation at hand. Something you know obviously know nothing about. What Shaq did in his personal time had nothing to do with Kobes alleged rape allegations. Maybe you are too young to understand this?

BTW you are a Kobe fanatic. I know I'm not the only one who has noticed some of your posts about him recently. You love the guy. FWIW, I'm a fan as well to a certain degree but I don't take it that far.

[DKLaker]

lol stop it

when a white women accuse a black man of rape

He is guilty unless he can prove himself innocent.
Females are always protected in court

some girl got a guy locked up for rape. There was no DNA evidence.
rape kit came back negative and he still got sentenced for 20 years

she eventually confessed she lied after he served 4 years

That's the REAL funking TRUTH right there bro!!!!!!!!!!

Legal system is complete BULL@#$T

That's as bad as the guy who got put on "Death Row" for killing his wife because a half blind OLD neighbor said she saw a figure in the dark that looked his size. Dude got released from jail and charges dropped only because he was at the Dodgers game and they were filming a TV show in his section at the same time the wife was killed.....dude had perfect video proof so all charges wee dropped.......dude coulda been executed for nothing!!!!! WTF!!!

That BS supposed RAPE chick had sex right after leaving the police station and had semen from 4 dudes in her panties.....she was a cheap Maury Povich (Not the Father) nasty stinking HO!!!!

[Samurai Swoosh]

when a white women accuse a black man of rape
No, it's like that period anytime a man is charged with rape. Color has nothing to do with it.

[theaussieguy]

Lol do people honestly still believe Kobe committed any other crime apart from adultery? Probably the same people who see Kobe's personality as contrived. I don't know if you guys are social retards working dead ends jobs but it defies every bit of logic and every bit of the character people had become to love in regards to Kobe.

I have always heard some (just some) Americans have absolutely no ability to deduce or analyse things for themselves or generally just display a lack of cunningness in general. Ignorance or the latter, take your pick.

[BarberSchool]

I give the coach some props for speaking up. 9-8 record for a paper championship team is no joking matter considering the big targets on their backs.

Killer instinct was what seperated Carter/McGrady to Kobe. And you can clearly see that is what seperating LeBron to the greats. Get serious and hold your teamates accountable. I hate using Jordan as an example but if anyone F'ed around in practice or shoot arounds, he would of kicked their asses.

Practice effort leads to game effort.

I agree with the coach....Get SERIOUS!Word.
And another reason to keep posting.....the best avatar on ISH.

[Papaya Petee]

Okay what some of you guys are saying is just pathetic. You don't know what happened with Kobe that night, because you weren't there. You are innocent until proven guilty. Kobe was proven innocent therefore you can't assume he did it. If he did, the fact that he did rape her would kill him more inside than the fact that he might be guilty. Is that mental toughness? Yes. But mental toughness in life and mental toughness in games are completely different things.

I can't believe you guys are comparing possibly spending your life in prison with wife and kids left behind to a 5v5 basketball game.

[tontoz]

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g195/tontoz/ThreadDirection.jpg

[PowerGlove]

No, it's like that period anytime a man is charged with rape. Color has nothing to do with it.
Not sure if srs.:oldlol:

[New York Knicks]

I am the spawn of Al Sharpton. I defend all black people, whether they're murderers and rapists or priests and educators. I hate all white people whether it's a serial killer or the Pope.
:ohwell:

[thejumpa]

Not sure if srs.:oldlol:

Nah he is. And dude had the nerve to call me a white suburban kid:oldlol:

[PowerGlove]

:ohwell:
Did I make an exception for your moms?



Nah he is. And dude had the nerve to call me a white suburban kid:oldlol:

He's arrogant and wrong sometimes but he's mostly a good guy. I dont think he has the right perspective on this though.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Nah he is. And dude had the nerve to call me a white suburban kid:oldlol:
I didn't call you that ... I co-signed with you clearly not knowing what "snitching" means or entails. Or we have completely different views on it.

[thejumpa]

He's arrogant and wrong sometimes but he's mostly a good guy. I dont think he has the right perspective on this though.

True. You hit the nail on the head with this one.

[thejumpa]

I didn't call you that ... I co-signed with you clearly not knowing what "snitching" means or entails. Or we have completely different views on it.

Come on bruh..."That too...." implies that you agree with what dude was saying.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Not sure if srs.:oldlol:
Being black certainly puts you at a further disadvantage, but from a sociological perspective, in rape cases, a woman thought to be innocent and or delicate flowers always tend to have their stance on a story believed more so when it comes to the issue of rape. Any male charged of rape is always guilty first, and then has to be proved innocent.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Come on bruh..."That too...." implies that you agree with what dude was saying.
I agree with the theme in what he was getting at. Which was you not knowing what 'snitching' means. I could have cared less about the white suburban part ... that was a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. How are you going to sit there and tell me what I meant? lol ... I was agreeing with the fact that you don't know what 'snitching' means, you clearly didn't understand the context in which Bryant mentioned Shaq's personal life, and you also can't grasp how in basketball terms Kobe Bryant is a pillar of what mental toughness if all about.

[thejumpa]

I agree with the theme in what he was getting at. Which was you not knowing what 'snitching' means. I could have cared less about the white suburban part ... that was a non-issue as far as I'm concerned. How are you going to sit there and tell me what I meant? lol ... I was agreeing with the fact that you don't know what 'snitching' means, you clearly didn't understand the context in which Bryant mentioned Shaq's personal life, and you also can't grasp how in basketball terms Kobe Bryant is a pillar of what mental toughness if all about.

I've followed Kobe since dude was drafted so you miss me with that other stuff. I know he's mentally tough on the court. Anyone can see that. However, that off the court shit with Shaq is a no-no in my book. I already told you why. If you don't agree, fine. But, I can't imagine that there's a context for mentioning something like that that automatically makes it appropriate. To this day, I haven't had one person tell me "He could have been saying it like this!". Nah, he opened his mouth about some shit that was obviously supposed to be kept confidential. Unless he was talking to himself or mentioning something under his breath, he doesn't get a pass by me.

about the comment....cool you don't think that. I thought you did. No big deal. I'm just saying...that's my definition of snitching. I don't know what else to tell you.

[Samurai Swoosh]

about the comment....cool you don't think that. I thought you did. No big deal. I'm just saying...that's my definition of snitching. I don't know what else to tell you.
Alright, let's put it to bed.

:pimp: