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ReturnofJPR
12-02-2010, 11:04 PM
Bron looks hurt.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4ZG2eE2K1c&feature=player_embedded

SEEBASS1234
12-02-2010, 11:06 PM
You hate to see that

jaydacris
12-02-2010, 11:06 PM
good for mo
better than boobie and jj hickson sleeping with the enemy

altho mo is clearly an emo individual

Big Bang Theory
12-02-2010, 11:07 PM
I'd be pissed too if the guy didn't even give me a hint of leaving then left the way he did. He'll get over it though.

Grey Dawn
12-02-2010, 11:08 PM
Wow, LeBron looks really really hurt by the rejection.

Nash
12-02-2010, 11:08 PM
Mo is an idiot.

gaz1332000
12-02-2010, 11:08 PM
I doubt he said that... you can't even tell what he said

Batz
12-02-2010, 11:09 PM
He just ignored him. Understandable, he chose to go with Miami without discussing it with any of his teammates.

Samurai Swoosh
12-02-2010, 11:12 PM
I appreciate Mo Williams not being a hoe like Boobie Gibson and JJ Hickson and showing dude love, instead completely ignoring him. LeBron did look genuinely hurt by that ...

lilWesleyJ4
12-02-2010, 11:13 PM
The same Mo Williams that thought about retiring because of Lebrons decision?:facepalm

Grey Dawn
12-02-2010, 11:14 PM
He didn't actually tell him to f-off, he said it with his body language when Bron tried to 'what's up buddy' greet him.

On the one hand, it's a shame cuz they were good pals (remember Bron vying hard for him to get into the all-star game?). On the other hand, Bron chumped his team and implied that the only reason they were a back-to-back 60+ win team was himself with his actions.

The Next Jordan
12-02-2010, 11:14 PM
The same Mo Williams that thought about retiring because of Lebrons decision?:facepalm
Yes, that same pansy ass Mo Will that wanted to quit.

50inchvertical
12-02-2010, 11:16 PM
Was that before the game or at the half? Because Byron Scott told them to stop being so jovial with LeBron, before the 2nd half

Stuckey
12-02-2010, 11:18 PM
:roll: more funny at Mo Will's bitterness

1987_Lakers
12-02-2010, 11:19 PM
I remember Mo was in shock and crying on twitter when LeBron left.:oldlol:

SoCalMike
12-02-2010, 11:20 PM
whats wrong with what he did (if he even said it)? at least he would have some emotion of which the other cavs did not seem to....



:pimp:

TennesseeFan
12-02-2010, 11:23 PM
I doubt he said that... you can't even tell what he said

He didn't really say it with words, he said it with his actions.

KB2009Champ
12-02-2010, 11:23 PM
um, you can clearly see by looking at his mouth that he doesnt say that

he just ignored him

Indian guy
12-02-2010, 11:25 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/6z7g3c.jpg

WildStyle
12-02-2010, 11:25 PM
They'll be butt budies again one day.

BEAST Griffin
12-02-2010, 11:26 PM
They had a hug before the game. This is taken out of context and I don't think Mo told Lebron to F off.

/thread

"Jesus"
12-02-2010, 11:27 PM
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

The Next Jordan
12-02-2010, 11:28 PM
http://i53.tinypic.com/6z7g3c.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

Cangri
12-03-2010, 12:03 AM
whats wrong with what he did (if he even said it)? at least he would have some emotion of which the other cavs did not seem to....



:pimp:
Too bad it didn't translate to a big game, 2-8... you're fking soft Mo.

gts
12-03-2010, 12:29 AM
good for mo
better than boobie and jj hickson sleeping with the enemy

altho mo is clearly an emo individualdon't know about mo or what he said but i was dissapointed in in jj and boobie..

that crowd tonight came out in droves and were vocal from the start and those two chatting him up took whatever advantage the crowd had given the cavs and nullified it... they made lebron feel at home...

i never exepcted the cavs to win the game but the cav players had a responsibility tonight to back the fans, it's rare in sports where a team has the opportunity to support a fan base, it's always the other way around and all it would have taken was a no holds barred effort. even a loss would be bearable if the cavs gave the effort but sitting there early in the game laughing with lebron was a slap in the face of the fan base

Meticode
12-03-2010, 12:31 AM
I give Williams respect for that. He kept it old school. Willaims walked by LeBron like, "Are you talking to me? Get the **** away from me." :lol There needs to be more of this in the game to put the bar up high on competing.

hitmanyr2k
12-03-2010, 12:32 AM
Too bad it didn't translate to a big game, 2-8... you're fking soft Mo.

Exactly, an 11 point game (2-8 shooting) with no intangibles, no intensity, just nothing....a typical Mo Williams playoff performance. A little less of that shit and Lebron would probably still be in Cleveland.

HisJoeness
12-03-2010, 12:34 AM
I appreciate Mo Williams not being a hoe like Boobie Gibson and JJ Hickson and showing dude love, instead completely ignoring him. LeBron did look genuinely hurt by that ...

LMAO, Mo Williams is the biggest ho on the team. That dude was probably listening to love songs and hugging a LeBron cutout before the game. Mo would sell his soul to play with Bron again, He's the scorned lover if I've ever seen one.

sh0wtime
12-03-2010, 12:34 AM
Haha, i saw that, but what proof do we have of him saying the F word? Lebrons reaction would look the same even if Mo didnt say anything, simply because Mo didnt respond when Lebron tried to greet him, he just walked by and ignored him.

kentatm
12-03-2010, 12:55 AM
He didn't actually tell him to f-off, he said it with his body language when Bron tried to 'what's up buddy' greet him.

On the one hand, it's a shame cuz they were good pals (remember Bron vying hard for him to get into the all-star game?). On the other hand, Bron chumped his team and implied that the only reason they were a back-to-back 60+ win team was himself with his actions.


thats one of the reasons I think Bron is a punk.

you cant be saying your boy is an allstar and then peace out b/c you felt you didnt have players around you.

Meticode
12-03-2010, 12:58 AM
Haha, i saw that, but what proof do we have of him saying the F word? Lebrons reaction would look the same even if Mo didnt say anything, simply because Mo didnt respond when Lebron tried to greet him, he just walked by and ignored him.
It was more or less he told LeBron to F-off because of his action, not actually saying it I think.

PowerGlove
12-03-2010, 01:01 AM
thats one of the reasons I think Bron is a punk.

you cant be saying your boy is an allstar and then peace out b/c you felt you didnt have players around you.

I guess trying HARD to get your teammate into the all star game doesnt make you sound dumb. If he was great no effort would be needed.

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 01:01 AM
don't know about mo or what he said but i was dissapointed in in jj and boobie..

that crowd tonight came out in droves and were vocal from the start and those two chatting him up took whatever advantage the crowd had given the cavs and nullified it... they made lebron feel at home...

i never exepcted the cavs to win the game but the cav players had a responsibility tonight to back the fans, it's rare in sports where a team has the opportunity to support a fan base, it's always the other way around and all it would have taken was a no holds barred effort. even a loss would be bearable if the cavs gave the effort but sitting there early in the game laughing with lebron was a slap in the face of the fan base
It was a disgrace and it really went to show just how far the game has drifted from the days that I really loved the NBA. These guys look to put on a show, hopefully win, have fun and make dinner reservations as soon as the final buzzer sounds.

The competitive fire that used to exist when I was coming up in the 80s and 90s is gone. During the game, it occurred to me (and just about every other Cleveland fan) that we need to change the identity of this team. They are soft jumpshooters and hustle guys, currently. I would like to see things built more in the mold of the 80s Pistons or the 90s Knicks/Pacers... Tough, hard-nosed teams that would be a representation of the blue collar fanbase of Cleveland.

Then, it came to me... There aren't those kinds of players anymore. Stern has successfully taken the physicality and toughness out of the game and there is no modern equivalent of Oakley, Mason, Laimbeer, Mahorn, etc.


What we are stuck with are guys like JJ and Boobie who are more interested in chatting it up with a former teammate than trying to show that they can win with less talent by out-toughing an opponent.

I swear, though... Of all the ball-less performances that you may see in today's NBA with the modern player, this one takes the cake. You have a fanbase as rabid as any you will ever see and they are out there smiling and hugging James? Chatting with him during timeouts?

My god. How far we have come.

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 01:02 AM
I guess trying HARD to get your teammate into the all star game doesnt make you sound dumb. If he was great no effort would be needed.
Mo was having a terrific first half of the season in 2008. Based on his play up to that point, he was a worthy replacement, with or without James' pleads.

PowerGlove
12-03-2010, 01:04 AM
Replacement.

See what I mean?

50inchvertical
12-03-2010, 01:06 AM
thats one of the reasons I think Bron is a punk.

you cant be saying your boy is an allstar and then peace out b/c you felt you didnt have players around you.
What stupid logic. DWade and Chris Bosh > Mo Williams and Antawn Jamison

oh the horror
12-03-2010, 01:08 AM
It was a disgrace and it really went to show just how far the game has drifted from the days that I really loved the NBA. These guys look to put on a show, hopefully win, have fun and make dinner reservations as soon as the final buzzer sounds.

The competitive fire that used to exist when I was coming up in the 80s and 90s is gone. During the game, it occurred to me (and just about every other Cleveland fan) that we need to change the identity of this team. They are soft jumpshooters and hustle guys, currently. I would like to see things built more in the mold of the 80s Pistons or the 90s Knicks/Pacers... Tough, hard-nosed teams that would be a representation of the blue collar fanbase of Cleveland.

Then, it came to me... There aren't those kinds of players anymore. Stern has successfully taken the physicality and toughness out of the game and there is no modern equivalent of Oakley, Mason, Laimbeer, Mahorn, etc.


What we are stuck with are guys like JJ and Boobie who are more interested in chatting it up with a former teammate than trying to show that they can win with less talent by out-toughing an opponent.

I swear, though... Of all the ball-less performances that you may see in today's NBA with the modern player, this one takes the cake. You have a fanbase as rabid as any you will ever see and they are out there smiling and hugging James? Chatting with him during timeouts?

My god. How far we have come.



Players in all sports now, are more interested in sitting down with PR people, and marketing their brand, instead of going out there, and putting a guy on his ass. Hell, even Webber, and McHale were talking about it during the halftime of the Warriors and Suns, about how they' would have banged Lebron up, tripped him, fouled him hard, etc.


Heaven forbid though...a fu*king player gets ejected, and suspended now. This isnt the game we once knew man, and I fear it may even get worse in the future.


The era of the "superstar" has been coming in for awhile now.

EDART King
12-03-2010, 01:08 AM
The same Mo Williams that thought about retiring because of Lebrons decision?:facepalm
:cheers:

Total *****.

GOBB
12-03-2010, 01:09 AM
I really watched the video 5 times and couldnt find where Mo Williams tells Bron to F off. It seems some of you saw it. Can you give me the time mark? Or are you just making up things? I'm lost.

BoNafidde
12-03-2010, 01:10 AM
I really watched the video 5 times and couldnt find where Mo Williams tells Bron to F off. It seems some of you saw it. Can you give me the time mark? Or are you just making up things? I'm lost.
He said it with his body language

oh the horror
12-03-2010, 01:10 AM
I really watched the video 5 times and couldnt find where Mo Williams tells Bron to F off. It seems some of you saw it. Can you give me the time mark? Or are you just making up things? I'm lost.



I think people were establishing that he tells Bron to "fu*k off" by his cold shoulder treatment.


Hell if I know.

kentatm
12-03-2010, 01:10 AM
What stupid logic. DWade and Chris Bosh > Mo Williams and Antawn Jamison


:facepalm

Faberg
12-03-2010, 01:11 AM
Didn't LeBron and Mo hug before the game? Get outta here with this. :oldlol:

mchalmers15
12-03-2010, 01:11 AM
I really watched the video 5 times and couldnt find where Mo Williams tells Bron to F off. It seems some of you saw it. Can you give me the time mark? Or are you just making up things? I'm lost.


:facepalm

GOBB
12-03-2010, 01:12 AM
He said it with his body language

:wtf:



I think people were establishing that he tells Bron to "fu*k off" by his cold shoulder treatment.


Hell if I know.

:oldlol:

I'm going to chalk it up to reaching by some.



Didn't LeBron and Mo hug before the game? Get outta here with this. :oldlol:

Yeah, I also would have liked to seen the two before the camera flashes to that particular instance.

sh0wtime
12-03-2010, 01:15 AM
It was more or less he told LeBron to F-off because of his action, not actually saying it I think.

Oh ok, now it makes more sense.

theaussieguy
12-03-2010, 01:21 AM
good on mo. The fact he left without consulting his team mates is just a dog act and you can't blame Mo for being hurt by that he is a human after all. I think this was just as much a *** off statement as it was a "I want nothing to do with you Lebron" statement

Also Mo is obviously still a hero in Clevelend, giving the fans what they want

good to see

raptorfan_dr07
12-03-2010, 01:22 AM
Then, it came to me... There aren't those kinds of players anymore. Stern has successfully taken the physicality and toughness out of the game and there is no modern equivalent of Oakley, Mason, Laimbeer, Mahorn, etc.


That's only what we've been saying for the past several years. Look at last year's finals, it was a joke. It's hard to play tough defense when everything is a foul. This is a p*ssy league, has been for quite some time. Stern has successfully created an environment where good old fashioned physicality is frowned upon. Teams like the Bad Boys Pistons and the 90s Knicks will never reappear as long as Stern and his boys are in control of the league. Lebron would have been knocked on his @$$ more than once if this was the 90's. I will forever respect Raja Bell for when he clotheslined Kobe. These punks think they're above the game and that they're entitled to everything. They know they can get away with it because they have Stern's backing and the protection of the refs. If anyone dares to try and be physical with them, they start crying to the refs who proceed to blow the whistle. This isn't even real basketball anymore, it's entertainment TV. I laugh at these idiots who think we're witnessing some great era with physical, tough defense. Those times are long gone.

50inchvertical
12-03-2010, 01:24 AM
That's only what we've been saying for the past several years. Look at last year's finals, it was a joke. It's hard to play tough defense when everything is a foul. This is a p*ssy league, has been for quite some time. Stern has successfully created an environment where good old fashioned physicality is frowned upon. Teams like the Bad Boys Pistons and the 90s Knicks will never reappear as long as Stern and his boys are in control of the league. Lebron would have been knocked on his @$$ more than once if this was the 90's. I will forever respect Raja Bell for when he clotheslined Kobe. These punks think they're above the game and that they're entitled to everything. They know they can get away with it because they have Stern's backing and the protection of the refs. If anyone dares to try and be physical with them, they start crying to the refs who proceed to blow the whistle. This isn't even real basketball anymore, it's entertainment TV. I laugh at these idiots who think we're witnessing some great era with physical, tough defense. Those times are long gone.
That's stupid though. Team invest as much as 20 million dollars in a year in these players. The last thing they want to see is goons undercutting and trying to hurt them on purpose. It makes perfect sense to remove that element from the game.

TheMiz
12-03-2010, 01:24 AM
I really watched the video 5 times and couldnt find where Mo Williams tells Bron to F off. It seems some of you saw it. Can you give me the time mark? Or are you just making up things? I'm lost.

Really? Really? REALLY?

catch24
12-03-2010, 01:25 AM
That's only what we've been saying for the past several years. Look at last year's finals, it was a joke. It's hard to play tough defense when everything is a foul. This is a p*ssy league, has been for quite some time. Stern has successfully created an environment where good old fashioned physicality is frowned upon. Teams like the Bad Boys Pistons and the 90s Knicks will never reappear as long as Stern and his boys are in control of the league. Lebron would have been knocked on his @$$ more than once if this was the 90's. I will forever respect Raja Bell for when he clotheslined Kobe. These punks think they're above the game and that they're entitled to everything. They know they can get away with it because they have Stern's backing and the protection of the refs. If anyone dares to try and be physical with them, they start crying to the refs who proceed to blow the whistle. This isn't even real basketball anymore, it's entertainment TV. I laugh at these idiots who think we're witnessing some great era with physical, tough defense. Those times are long gone.

Great post, repped.

50inchvertical
12-03-2010, 01:31 AM
http://imgur.com/NwzIT.png

markymark
12-03-2010, 01:32 AM
That's stupid though. Team invest as much as 20 million dollars in a year in these players. The last thing they want to see is goons undercutting and trying to hurt them on purpose. It makes perfect sense to remove that element from the game.

I'd rather have "goons" than f@ggots.

It's a p*ssy league, perfect for obese kids who love playing nba live.

50inchvertical
12-03-2010, 01:40 AM
I'd rather have "goons" than f@ggots.

It's a p*ssy league, perfect for obese kids who love playing nba live.Easy to say when it's not you paying these guys, carrying an 80million dollar pay roll. Pay 5.6 mil (the league average salary) for something and you'll want it protected too.

I'd like to see handchecking bought back, I like "incidental contact" not being called a foul, don't like seing guys shoot 15+ fts in a game anymore than anybody else, but you guys are talking about flagrant fouls and fights and that shit is uncalled for and not basketball.

I think of Danny Fortson when he was with a Mav which was the end of his career. He was that type of guy and Zarko Caparkaba was about to dunk on him and he just pushed him while airborne and dude came down and broke his wrist, ended his season, and his career really never rebounded after. That was just dirty to me and not a basketball play, ditto all the Bowen "accidental" stick my foot under your's and injure you plays.

I'd like to see physicality bought back just in the sense of basketball plays, but guys just trying to hurt each other, don't need that. It's not what they get paid for.

Da KO King
12-03-2010, 01:48 AM
The competitive fire that used to exist when I was coming up in the 80s and 90s is gone. During the game, it occurred to me (and just about every other Cleveland fan) that we need to change the identity of this team. They are soft jumpshooters and hustle guys, currently. I would like to see things built more in the mold of the 80s Pistons or the 90s Knicks/Pacers...

.....There aren't those kinds of players anymore. Stern has successfully taken the physicality and toughness out of the game and there is no modern equivalent of Oakley, Mason, Laimbeer, Mahorn, etc....
I found this interesting. You say you want to replace Cavs player due to them being jump shooters and hustle guys. Yet the players you name as ideal guys were all jump shooting hustle guys with the only difference being they fouled people on a regular basis.

Reverend Hoops
12-03-2010, 01:52 AM
http://imgur.com/NwzIT.png

Ex-fiancee would be a better comparison.

Hulk Hogan
12-03-2010, 01:53 AM
I really watched the video 5 times and couldnt find where Mo Williams tells Bron to F off. It seems some of you saw it. Can you give me the time mark? Or are you just making up things? I'm lost.

"there are none so blind as those who will not see"

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 01:53 AM
I found this interesting. You say you want to replace Cavs player due to them being jump shooters and hustle guys. Yet the players you name as ideal guys were all jump shooting hustle guys with the only difference being they fouled people on a regular basis.
The difference? Our jumpshooters and hustle players also happen to be giant v@ginas. It certainly would be a benefit if a guy can do some intangibles or hit some open jumpers, but the main thing is bringing a semblance of toughness to this team.

Oakley was an intangible guy. Varejao is an intangible guy. Yet, they have entirely different approaches to the game.

Mo Williams is a jumpshooter. Laimbeer was a jumpshooter. Yet, they have entirely different approaches to the game.

There is a 'finesse' way to play the game and a 'physical' way to play the game. I'm ready for the latter.

Da KO King
12-03-2010, 01:53 AM
Easy to say when it's not you paying these guys, carrying an 80million dollar pay roll. Pay 5.6 mil (the league average salary) for something and you'll want it protected too.

I'd like to see handchecking bought back, I like "incidental contact" not being called a foul, don't like seing guys shoot 15+ fts in a game anymore than anybody else, but you guys are talking about flagrant fouls and fights and that shit is uncalled for and not basketball.

I think of Danny Fortson when he was with a Mav which was the end of his career. He was that type of guy and Zarko Caparkaba was about to dunk on him and he just pushed him while airborne and dude came down and broke his wrist, ended his season, and his career really never rebounded after. That was just dirty to me and not a basketball play, ditto all the Bowen "accidental" stick my foot under your's and injure you plays.

I'd like to see physicality bought back just in the sense of basketball plays, but guys just trying to hurt each other, don't need that. It's not what they get paid for.
:applause: You've been on a roll lately.

Seriously, I think people are confusing the physicality of the league's past with the WWE. The league was more physical in the past because you could hand-check and bump cutters, not because you could go out and try to hurt people. Flagrant fouls and dirty plays are not entertaining nor do they lead to a better brand of basketball.

Derka
12-03-2010, 01:55 AM
He sold every single one of his former teammates short with the way he left town. I wouldn't acknowledge him either. And I hope it did hurt.

I'm glad that for once in his basketball playing career, Lebron James had to suffer a consequence for his actions.

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 02:00 AM
:applause: You've been on a roll lately.

Seriously, I think people are confusing the physicality of the league's past with the WWE. The league was more physical in the past because you could hand-check and bump cutters, not because you could go out and try to hurt people. Flagrant fouls and dirty plays are not entertaining nor do they lead to a better brand of basketball.
No one is talking about purposefully hurting other players.

What I am talking about is showing a semblance of competitive fire and, if that includes knocking a guy on his butt instead of allowing a wide open layup (which we saw time and again tonight), then yeah... I'm for that.

There is a fine line between physical and dirty. This Cavalier team is on the other end of the spectrum of both. If you don't have the talent to compete, at least attempt to fight for a win... or to fight to try and keep it close. Something... Anything.

Honestly... the mental aspect, for me, is as important (if not moreso) than the physical. I'd just like to have some tough guys on this team. Do you honestly believe that Anthony Mason would have been out there, joking with James during a timeout? Or would he allow his bench to joke with him while down 20+? That was distressing to any real fan of this team.

You have to understand that, right?

thejumpa
12-03-2010, 02:04 AM
Damn Mo.....dude is mad emotional. That's not a good look.

Da KO King
12-03-2010, 02:05 AM
The difference? Our jumpshooters and hustle players also happen to be giant v@ginas. It certainly would be a benefit if a guy can do some intangibles or hit some open jumpers, but the main thing is bringing a semblance of toughness to this team.

Oakley was an intangible guy. Varejao is an intangible guy. Yet, they have entirely different approaches to the game.

Mo Williams is a jumpshooter. Laimbeer was a jumpshooter. Yet, they have entirely different approaches to the game.
As someone who grew up watching the Knicks I can say that Charles Oakley is one of the most over-rated "post career" guys in league history. Oakley wasn't a tough guy who fouled hard to send a message. He fouled hard because he sucked as a defender if a guy went into a face-up in the post. It was his way of trying to ensure no "and 1's".

With that said, a guy like Oakley would suck in the new game. With the emphasis on spreading the floor to open driving lanes guys like Varejao, who can draw charges, are more valuable than bangers like Oakley.

Replay32
12-03-2010, 02:06 AM
He sold every single one of his former teammates short with the way he left town. I wouldn't acknowledge him either. And I hope it did hurt.

I'm glad that for once in his basketball playing career, Lebron James had to suffer a consequence for his actions.

I don't even think it's that serious. He was a free agent and if his ex-teammates are butt hurt about it, then who care's. basketball is a business.

At least he didn't say that his teammates weren't good in a press conference and demand management get him some help fast.

At least he wasn't caught on camera telling a random fan to "Ship Mo William's Ass Out".

At least he didn't demand and trade and say that he would rather play on Pluto.

At least he didn't call Dan Gilbert an idiot on the radio and say that he didn't care that the fans wanted him to stay when they had a meeting.

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 02:07 AM
Damn Mo.....dude is mad emotional. That's not a good look.
What is this newfangled emphasis on people never getting 'mad'? It is really confusing to me. Being 'mad' is a very basic human emotion, is it not?

Hulk Hogan
12-03-2010, 02:09 AM
http://imgur.com/NwzIT.png
Only trust thyself, and another shall not betray thee.

thejumpa
12-03-2010, 02:10 AM
What is this newfangled emphasis on people never getting 'mad'? It is really confusing to me. Being 'mad' is a very basic human emotion, is it not?

I didn't mean that Mo was literally mad. It's slang for "very".

"He was very emotional"

=

"He was mad emotional"

Never heard it before?

50inchvertical
12-03-2010, 02:11 AM
I think those guys just kind of suck and no amount of "heart" or "passion" was going to change that. Jordan and Barkley used to routinely chop it up before and during games. Magic Johnson and Isaiah Thomas kissed each other. They didn't lose because they were chummy with LeBron. They lost because they are a bunch of complimentary role players and also rands going against a team with 2 top 5 guys and another [current] all star level player.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmCmHGZxVsw&feature=player_embedded
< NOw this dude told LeBron to shut the **** up, although he seemed to mumble it under his breathe where LeBron couldn't hear him

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 02:12 AM
I didn't mean that Mo was literally mad. It's slang for "very".

"He was very emotional"

=

"He was mad emotional"

Never heard it before?
I didn't think he was emotional in the least. In fact, if I had to use an adjective to describe his demeanor, it would be 'cold' not 'emotional.' James' reaction was emotional, if anything.

sayitaintso
12-03-2010, 02:13 AM
Mo should have done the talking in the game. Actions speak louder than words.

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 02:15 AM
Mo should have done the talking in the game. Actions speak louder than words.
Erm... He didn't SAY ANYTHING. :oldlol:

What video are you guys watching? His game and his words in this video are pretty similar (ie: nonexistent).

thejumpa
12-03-2010, 02:18 AM
I didn't think he was emotionally in the least. In fact, if I had to use an adjective to describe his demeanor, it would be 'cold' not 'emotional.' James' reaction was emotional, if anything.

LeBron had a "are you serious?" look on his face. Mo gave him the cold shoulder, man. That's a clear and obvious sign of someone who is emotionally distraught. You can't turn and say what's up? You guys are grown men. I don't understand that. I saw Boobie,JJ,Andy V,Parker, all showed him love. Mo didn't.

Da KO King
12-03-2010, 02:19 AM
No one is talking about purposefully hurting other players.

What I am talking about is showing a semblance of competitive fire and, if that includes knocking a guy on his butt instead of allowing a wide open layup (which we saw time and again tonight), then yeah... I'm for that.

There is a fine line between physical and dirty. This Cavalier team is on the other end of the spectrum of both. If you don't have the talent to compete, at least attempt to fight for a win... or to fight to try and keep it close. Something... Anything. For that to change you have to change the league. Nowadays that "competitive fire" cost you like $25k.


Honestly... the mental aspect, for me, is as important (if not moreso) than the physical. I'd just like to have some tough guys on this team. Do you honestly believe that Anthony Mason would have been out there, joking with James during a timeout? Or would he allow his bench to joke with him while down 20+? That was distressing to any real fan of this team.

You have to understand that, right?
This is not a fair game to judge the Cavs on though. No matter how YOU (meaning fans) feel about LeBron James, for them he is their friend who simply switched companies. For them its not personal, they recognize that this is a business first and foremost.

As for Mason, if he was really friends with a guy then yes. If it was just a business friend, he wouldn't even smirk at him. Mason loved/loves basketball but he also understood the NBA was a business.

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 02:19 AM
I saw Boobie,JJ,Andy V,Parker, all showed him love.
...and it made me want to puke.

And, no... He didn't seem in emotional distress. He seemed like he was focused on trying to win a basketball game, unlike the other unprofessional losers we have dotting this lineup.

Da KO King
12-03-2010, 02:21 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmCmHGZxVsw&feature=player_embedded
< NOw this dude told LeBron to shut the **** up, although he seemed to mumble it under his breathe where LeBron couldn't hear him
:oldlol:

Now as a coach I would have a problem with this. When you're on the bench you don't talk to players on the floor.

RedBlackAttack
12-03-2010, 02:24 AM
:oldlol:

Now as a coach I would have a problem with this. When you're on the bench you don't talk to players on the floor.
Especially in a joking manner, down 20+ and with a guy that is in the process of sh!tting on your teammates.

Like I said in the other thread, this team... Ugh. You don't have to win, but just show you care.

thejumpa
12-03-2010, 02:25 AM
...and it made me want to puke.

And, no... He didn't seem in emotional distress. He seemed like he was focused on trying to win a basketball game, unlike the other unprofessional losers we have dotting this lineup.

Made you want to puke? Bro they acknowledged each other before the game. Did you know that? You want them to hate him like you do? This is a clear case where fans take the game of basketball too personal.

Trying to win a game huh. What was his line again? Any person who plays competitive sports will tell you to never let your emotions get to you. As heartless as some of the Cavs played, Mo let his emotions get to him. Giving someone the cold shoulder is for females.

Scoooter
12-03-2010, 02:25 AM
Bron seemed to really enjoy stickin' it to the Cleveland fans tonight.

iamgine
12-03-2010, 02:28 AM
So Mr. Williams felt the need to give Lebron a reason to torch the Cavs. 38 points. Season high. Good job Mo.

Kurosawa0
12-03-2010, 02:35 AM
you can't even tell what he said

+1

TheAnchorman
12-03-2010, 02:45 AM
On the NBA.com Heat-Cavs' video summary at the 0:45 mark Lebron and Mo share a hug, so this video was taken out of context. Since Mo was facing the camera and was wearing diff clothes than the video here I thought that it was diff, but the jersey and his head gave it away.

wally_world
12-03-2010, 02:54 AM
Mo's my new idol :rockon:

cteach111
12-03-2010, 03:30 AM
On the NBA.com Heat-Cavs' video summary at the 0:45 mark Lebron and Mo share a hug, so this video was taken out of context. Since Mo was facing the camera and was wearing diff clothes than the video here I thought that it was diff, but the jersey and his head gave it away.

not exactly. Mo stated in some article (ESPN maybe? I forgot..) that he had to get his hugs out the way and play ball. Obviously, he didn't say it like that, but its close enough.

kobesabi
12-03-2010, 03:48 AM
Good for Mo. Mo has every right to tell him to F off when LBJ did that F off Sh1t off 1 hr special insult to his team, teammates, and his fans.

If only the rest of the team has the same attitude and channel that attitude in their play against Bron

50inchvertical
12-03-2010, 03:57 AM
Good for Mo. Mo has every right to tell him to F off when LBJ did that F off Sh1t off 1 hr special insult to his team, teammates, and his fans.

If only the rest of the team has the same attitude and channel that attitude in their play against Bron
Mo was 2 for 8 fgs so his "attitude" didn't translate into anything tangible and he was fronting for the cameras anyways. Follow Mo's twitter, only a matter of time before more pics are released of him following LeBron around like a lap dog to parties and events like he did the whole time he was here.

Samurai Swoosh
12-03-2010, 04:00 AM
:Now as a coach
You're a coach?

:oldlol:

Oh god, I feel for America's youth.


I would have a problem with this. When you're on the bench you don't talk to players on the floor.
He's a lowly assistant, he has nothing to lose, and he was probably tired of LeBron always talking. Might have been a message to the player next to him as well. JJ being a new school dumb ass and joking with the competition during the game.

:facepalm

BlazersDozen
12-03-2010, 04:10 AM
I think the better things were Jamison balling out aggressively in the first half showing Bron that he did have players around him, basically saying F-U with his skills while Gibson and Hickson were talking him up, they also were dacing in front of him in the first quarter like a, "You miss this don't you asshole?" And Bron walked away with a look on his face like he wished he could change the decision he made in the summer. I think Miami won the battle but Cleveland won the war. LeBron really looked like he wishes he was still in Cleveland from what I saw, and it's not that hard to believe since it's his home, it's his childhood team and that was his family and they have all abandoned him, understandably.

Mrofir
12-03-2010, 04:13 AM
bladdy bla when i was a young lad we didn't even play basketball we just ran around with hatchets, fouls SHMOULS

cteach111
12-03-2010, 04:15 AM
I think the better things were Jamison balling out aggressively in the first half showing Bron that he did have players around him, basically saying F-U with his skills while Gibson and Hickson were talking him up, they also were dacing in front of him in the first quarter like a, "You miss this don't you asshole?" And Bron walked away with a look on his face like he wished he could change the decision he made in the summer. I think Miami won the battle but Cleveland won the war. LeBron really looked like he wishes he was still in Cleveland from what I saw, and it's not that hard to believe since it's his home, it's his childhood team and that was his family and they have all abandoned him, understandably.

Cleveland didn't win jack tonight. They didn't win the battle, the fight, the war. That was rapeage on the highest level.

kobesabi
12-03-2010, 04:30 AM
Mo was 2 for 8 fgs so his "attitude" didn't translate into anything tangible and he was fronting for the cameras anyways. Follow Mo's twitter, only a matter of time before more pics are released of him following LeBron around like a lap dog to parties and events like he did the whole time he was here.
Channeling it into productive energy is hard and is not easy as it sounds. Distracted by anger is a mental challenge you have to separate out while attempting channeling that energy into useful work. Despite his effort, anger was probably distracting his mind. Anyway, if I'm Mo, anyone dis me at grandscale on international TV. I would never 'lap dog' to any of those fockers so he should not be too. What sucker would want to insult him further by stepping on his own dignity and osskissing the guy that insulted you on international tv? Low self esteem people would fall for that sh1t. So yea. Never. An eye for an eye. Keep the manhood dignity.

New York Knicks
12-03-2010, 04:31 AM
I'm a homo
:blah

StillKill24
12-03-2010, 04:33 AM
Well done Mo. :applause:

Teanett
12-03-2010, 04:34 AM
totally taken out of context. looks more like:
"mo, you seen my powder somewhere?"
"i don't know"
"damn, where's my powder?"

kobesabi
12-03-2010, 04:37 AM
totally taken out of context. looks more like:
"mo, you seen my powder somewhere?"
"i don't know"
"damn, where's my powder?"
It was more like F off, wanna eat some lead powder?:D

Da KO King
12-03-2010, 05:29 AM
I think the better things were Jamison balling out aggressively in the first half showing Bron that he did have players around him, basically saying F-U with his skills while......
That had nothing to do with LeBron. I don't know if it is because Antawn recognized early on that Chris Bosh was an over-rated chump, but Jamison does NOT like Bosh at all and takes it to him every time they play.

SEEBASS1234
12-03-2010, 09:24 AM
That had nothing to do with LeBron. I don't know if it is because Antawn recognized early on that Chris Bosh was an over-rated chump, but Jamison does NOT like Bosh at all and takes it to him every time they play.
So you know Antawn personally? Haha kidding (not trolling). But this is true the other players are above the situation with LeBron. They get ahead of it and they can perform regardless of their situations

mmsupra
12-03-2010, 09:49 AM
Mo just redeemed himself after all those postseason failures! :bowdown:

b4ball
12-03-2010, 10:20 AM
Good on Moe, it's a competitive game and I wish more players would just play with an intensity that say's F-Off till after the game.

50inchvertical
12-03-2010, 10:43 AM
I think the better things were Jamison balling out aggressively in the first half showing Bron that he did have players around him, basically saying F-U with his skills while Gibson and Hickson were talking him up, they also were dacing in front of him in the first quarter like a, "You miss this don't you asshole?" And Bron walked away with a look on his face like he wished he could change the decision he made in the summer. I think Miami won the battle but Cleveland won the war. LeBron really looked like he wishes he was still in Cleveland from what I saw, and it's not that hard to believe since it's his home, it's his childhood team and that was his family and they have all abandoned him, understandably.
What game did you watch? You might literally be the only person in the world who came to that conclusion. Even Cleveland homers came away feeling broken, knowing they lost on all fronts last night. LeBron seemed to have a great time sticking it to his former teammates and fans.

And Jamison finished with 11, so if anything, LeBron would feel further validated in his opinion that his teammates weren't championship caliber (other "all star" Mo Williams finished with 11 as well) and that leaving them was the right decision.

He looked kind of serious on the court at first, but in the 2nd and 3rd, he was definitely enjoying himself

Jasper
12-03-2010, 01:46 PM
Mo in Milwaukee , is mo in Clevland ..

you guys do the work .. I'll take the last shot and hero it

(In other words the perfect coat tail rider)

His game speaked volumes , how he played against the Heat - -- -

That is why eventually Sessions will start , because Scott knows a ball distributor.

TennesseeFan
12-03-2010, 01:49 PM
Mo just redeemed himself after all those postseason failures! :bowdown:

http://ezsmiley.com/gallery/oversize/bowroflcrowd.gif

sh0wtime
12-03-2010, 03:41 PM
Its still weird though considering Mo & Lebron were having a good time hanging out during the warmup.

gasolina
12-03-2010, 04:31 PM
Zarko Caparkaba
Ohhh my! I remember Jeff loving brick roasted Cabarkapa with rice on the side on the game commentary some years ago.

Samurai Swoosh
12-03-2010, 04:42 PM
Its still weird though considering Mo & Lebron were having a good time hanging out during the warmup.
Cavs players embarassing themselves in front of a crowd who is showing clear disgust for what this dude did to their city and this team. Players didn't even realize LeBron said yall weren't good enough for me. Pathetic.

Da KO King
12-04-2010, 09:52 AM
He's a lowly assistant, he has nothing to lose, and he was probably tired of LeBron always talking. Might have been a message to the player next to him as well. JJ being a new school dumb ass and joking with the competition during the game.

:facepalm
Sorry didn't communicate my point well. I meant I had a problem with Hickson, not the coach.

If I was Byron Scott and I saw Hickson having that conversation I would have sent him to the locker-room.