Another MVP for Lebron might not be far fetched after all

[ashbelly]

It probably was only a matter of time.

As enthusiastic as The Race committee is about scouting out new MVP prospects, especially early in each season, and as skeptical as certain members were about the ganged-up, shared-load approach being deployed by the Miami Heat this season, it figures that there would be no keeping down LeBron James(notes) for long.

Reigning two-time winners of the Maurice Podoloff trophy have a way of asserting themselves.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=nba_com-race-to-mvp-week-6-20101203

[StillKill24]

But but I thought it was all about fmvp for Lebron :oldlol:

[Lakers13]

1-7

[ashbelly]

But but I thought it was all about fmvp for Lebron :oldlol:


it is, but if he can get another one, it wouldn't Hurt. Funny enough that i thought Alot of guys would step up to the plate trying to get the Trophy, so far nobody has separated himself from the rest. If Lebron activates "Video Game James mode" , he's winning it hands down.

[ashbelly]

1-7

1-4 against .500 teams

Lakers
Houston (6-11)W
Phoenix (8-9)W
GSW (8-9) W
Memphis (8-10)W
Sacramento (4-12) W
Toronto (6-11)W
Portland (8-11) W
Minnesota (4-13) W
Denver (10-6) L
Phoenix (10-9) L
Milwaukee (6-10) W
Detroit (6-11) W
Minnesota (4-13) W
GSW ( 8-9) W
Chicago (9-6) W
Utah (13-5) L
Indiana (8-8) L
Grizzlies(8-10) L
Rockets (6-11) L
Sacramento (4-12) W

they haven't even faced NOH, Spurs, Mavs, OKC, Celtics, Orlando

[NoEasy9]

Because he killed his own former team now he is back on the MVP Race? :oldlol: Let's see this guy win a game against a team over .500 first.

[Lakers13]

1-4 against .500 teams

Lakers
Houston (6-11)W
Phoenix (8-9)W
GSW (8-9) W
Memphis (8-10)W
Sacramento (4-12) W
Toronto (6-11)W
Portland (8-11) W
Minnesota (4-13) W
Denver (10-6) L
Phoenix (10-9) L
Milwaukee (6-10) W
Detroit (6-11) W
Minnesota (4-13) W
GSW ( 8-9) W
Chicago (9-6) W
Utah (13-5) L
Indiana (8-8) L
Grizzlies(8-10) L
Rockets (6-11) L
Sacramento (4-12) W

they haven't even faced NOH, Spurs, Mavs, OKC, Celtics, Orlando

You count Phoenix lost for us but dont count our win, is it because they werent 500 at the time? Because if thats the case some of those teams we beat early were above or at 500 at the time we defeated them.

Cant have it both ways son

[ashbelly]

Because he killed his own former team now he is back on the MVP Race? :oldlol: Let's see this guy win a game against a team over .500 first.


funniest shit, is no one else in the league has separated himself to be considered the Clear cut MVP choice. I thought Kobe would've done this and make a legit case of carrying his team but, nope. Maybe ginobli ?

[ashbelly]

You count Phoenix lost for us but dont count our win, is it because they werent 500 at the time? Because if thats the case some of those teams we beat early were above or at 500 at the time we defeated them.

Cant have it both ways son


No silly rabbit, adding the phoenix suns victory doesn't change the fact that they lose to teams over .500 .. :facepalm

[StillKill24]

it is, but if he can get another one, it wouldn't Hurt. Funny enough that i thought Alot of guys would step up to the plate trying to get the Trophy, so far nobody has separated himself from the rest. If Lebron activates "Video Game James mode" , he's winning it hands down.

Well, imo orlando is going to win more games than the heat and probably dwight howard is finally going to get his mvp.

[B-Low]

http://www.cemzoo.com/pokedex/83.gif

[alenleomessi]

He is the best player in the world after all

[ashbelly]

Well, imo orlando is going to win more games than the heat and probably dwight howard is finally going to get his mvp.


I don't think he will, i think miami Peaks just at the right time and might make it impossible to deny Wade or lebron the trophy, because nobody is stepping up ATM.

[Lakers13]

No silly rabbit, adding the phoenix suns victory doesn't change the fact that they lose to teams over .500 .. :facepalm

Keep up the agenda. 2-4 against .500 teams.

LeBron beating the heartless Cavs doesnt jump him to top of the MVP list, wait till he actually beasts on the good teams before you go around the corner with him

[catch24]

Anytime your the best player in the L, you'll always be in contention for an MVP. 3 would look great on his resume, but I'm not so sure he's playing for this award either (in reference to the thread where 'Kobe was gunning for an MVP'). He came to South Beach for one reason and that's to win a championship.

A Finals MVP... Now that might be something he's looking into.

[thomaspynchon]

It would be a mockery of the sport if he ever gets a sniff of another MVP after getting his handed to him on a platinum caviar dish during his MVP seasons.

[ashbelly]

It would be a mockery of the sport if he ever gets a sniff of another MVP after getting his handed to him on a platinum caviar dish during his MVP seasons.

:oldlol: :oldlol: This clown.. who deserved it more than him ???

[inclinerator]

it was wrong all along, lebron should be the 1 thats scoring

[brooks_thompson]

honestly, despite the terrible musings of the OP, i can see it happening. with media favorite durant not looking like mvp so far, why not add fuel to the fire and push for mr. polarizing himself.

with the quarter season/third season awards coming up soon, and no real clear cut candidate, it's time for sportswriters to create some hooplah. and we know the next 2 or 3 weeks comes the time when they push a favorite and ride it til the end of the season.

[NoEasy9]

funniest shit, is no one else in the league has separated himself to be considered the Clear cut MVP choice. I thought Kobe would've done this and make a legit case of carrying his team but, nope. Maybe ginobli ?
How about Dwight Howard? The same guy that had his way like Burger King against the Miami Heat?

[ashbelly]

How about Dwight Howard? The same guy that had his way like Burger King against the Miami Heat?

:oldlol: The 1st game he didn't at all, maybe the 2nd game. The DPOY is reserved for Dwight, not the MVP. Especially if Guys like wade and Lebron are playing Better.

[niko]

What exactly did he do to warrant saying he's back in MVP consideration? Score a lot of points against a shitty Cleveland team in a game Wade took the lead in? Did i miss something else?

[NoEasy9]

:oldlol: The 1st game he didn't at all, maybe the 2nd game. The DPOY is reserved for Dwight, not the MVP. Especially if Guys like wade and Lebron are playing Better.
Except neither Wade or Lebron are playing better than Howard right now..

[ashbelly]

Except neither Wade or Lebron are playing better than Howard right now..

And i've mentioned, if you look around the league, there is no clear cut candidate so far. I still believe miami will peak just at the right time and that means either wade or Lebron will be playing out of their minds making it hard to ignore them.

[NoEasy9]

And i've mentioned, if you look around the league, there is no clear cut candidate so far. I still believe miami will peak just at the right time and that means either wade or Lebron will be playing out of their minds making it hard to ignore them.
Dwight Howard is, but it's nice to know you have great reading skills. :rolleyes:

[sh0wtime]

At the end of the season i think he will be at the top, Kobe aswell, dont think he will win it over Kobe though considering Lakers will probably get a better record and Lebron wont have his 30-8-8.

[LA_Showtime]

He's got a chance; nobody else has established themselves as the clear favorite. Howard is playing well, Durant and Kobe haven't even looked like the best players on their respective teams, and Wade is stinking it up.

[DaClutch10]

I think a PG will win it....Maybe Deron Williams depending on the Jazz record.

[ashbelly]

I think a PG will win it....Maybe Deron Williams depending on the Jazz record.

If they picked a PG to win it, it will be rondo or CP3 depending on their teams Record.

[Ikill]

I don't know like i think wade is more valuable to the Heat than Lebron. I would say its between Dirk and Howard.

[G-Funk]

i think the race will start after dec.

[ginobli2311]

its howard easily so far.

21 points 12 boards 59% from the field and clearly the best defensive player in the league.

15-4 team record.

after that? Lebron will gain ground if the heat start to win a lot. don't forget that lebron has really started to play well lately.

he season numbers are up to:

24 points 8 assists 6 boards

thats pretty sick considering the slow start.

BUT DON'T FORGET ABOUT DIRKY.

[ashbelly]

i think the race will start after dec.


too late then, if someone doesn't establish himself this month, the MVP winner this year will not be a Flawless one , compared to the one for the past 2 seasons.

[Doranku]

It'll be either Dwight, Dirk, or Kobe. LeBron doesn't even have a chance.

[gts]

way too early in the season to even think what we are seeing from the various canidates is what we'll see when the dust settles..

kobe isn't playing even the best ball on the lakers yet, lebron has been far too ready to take a back seat to wade to show he's even thinking MVP, durant has been misfiring and like kobe probably isn't even playing the best ball on the thunder...

cp3 looked good early but it seems the hornets are coming down to earth...

etc etc, odd year for sure but certainly far from a done deal... lots of time for any of the proven stars to pick it up and go on a tear...

[ginobli2311]

It'll be either Dwight, Dirk, or Kobe. LeBron doesn't even have a chance.

i have:

westbrook
williams
rose
rondo
paul
gasol

all over kobe so far. if kobe wins it this year and his play does not vastly improve then the NBA is even more of a joke that i thought.

[ashbelly]

i have:

westbrook
williams
rose
rondo
paul
gasol

all over kobe so far. if kobe wins it this year and his play does not vastly improve then the NBA is even more of a joke that i thought.


This.. Kobe should not be in the discussion.

[DeronMillsap]

Dirk, Dwight, Deron, Westbrook, Rose and CP3 in that order.
Hornets not doing too well is hurting CP3 a lot.

Forgot to add Rose. Rondo doesn't score too much for me to consider an MVP candidate.

[Doranku]

i have:

westbrook
williams
rose
rondo
paul
gasol

all over kobe so far. if kobe wins it this year and his play does not vastly improve then the NBA is even more of a joke that i thought.

Rose's team isn't good enough to win it, the NBA would never give the MVP to Rondo or Gasol, the Hornets will come down to earth (already are) and will likely not have a good enough record to warrant CP3 an MVP, and Durant will end up eclipsing Westbrook by the end of the year.

I forgot about Deron, throw him up on that list too. I wasn't saying 'as of now, these are the top candidates', I'm saying that by the end of the season, those are the 3 (4 with Deron) that I see at the top of the MVP race.

[creepingdeath]

This.. Kobe should not be in the discussion.
Kobe most likely won't win it, even if LA grabs the #1 seed in the West. But of course he is in the discussion. :facepalm

Lebron, on the other hand... there's no way he'll get his third straight. First of all, the Heat's record won't be good enough. Secondly, he's got Wade on his team, so they both cancel each other's chances of winning the award out. And most importantly, the voters hate the way Lebron left Cleveland and even if the Heat get their act together and James stats improve he will get punished.

Right now, Howard and Dirk lead the pack. But that can change.

[ginobli2311]

Rose's team isn't good enough to win it, the NBA would never give the MVP to Rondo or Gasol, the Hornets will come down to earth (already are) and will likely not have a good enough record to warrant CP3 an MVP, and Durant will end up eclipsing Westbrook by the end of the year.

I forgot about Deron, throw him up on that list too. I wasn't saying 'as of now, these are the top candidates', I'm saying that by the end of the season, those are the 3 (4 with Deron) that I see at the top of the MVP race.

yea. i'll agree with that.

the guys that could win it imo:

durant
dirk
howard
lebron
kobe
deron
paul

[ashbelly]

lebron this month might establish himself as the MVP, he's had a good month so far.. once we play dallas and lakers, people will take notice..

[creepingdeath]

lebron this month might establish himself as the MVP, he's had a good month so far.. once we play dallas and lakers, people will take notice..
You mean once the Heat lose to both LA and Dallas, Dirk and Kobe establish themselves as top dogs in the MVP discussion?

[cteach111]

You mean once the Heat lose to both LA and Dallas, Dirk and Kobe establish themselves as top dogs in the MVP discussion?

considering that the Lakers have been playing awful and they play Dallas in their house, the Heat's odds look a lot better to take these games.

I think they'll take both..

[Dave3]

Kobe most likely won't win it, even if LA grabs the #1 seed in the West. But of course he is in the discussion. :facepalm

Lebron, on the other hand... there's no way he'll get his third straight. First of all, the Heat's record won't be good enough. Secondly, he's got Wade on his team, so they both cancel each other's chances of winning the award out. And most importantly, the voters hate the way Lebron left Cleveland and even if the Heat get their act together and James stats improve he will get punished.

Right now, Howard and Dirk lead the pack. But that can change.
LeBron can still be in the top 5. Yeah he's with Wade, but to voters that doesn't affect that much. Multiple times when Kobe and Shaq were together, one of them would finish in the top 5. Highly highly highly unlikely he will win, but not highly unlikely he'll be top 5.

[creepingdeath]

LeBron can still be in the top 5. Yeah he's with Wade, but to voters that doesn't affect that much. Multiple times when Kobe and Shaq were together, one of them would finish in the top 5. Highly highly highly unlikely he will win, but not highly unlikely he'll be top 5.
True, but you're not gunning for a top 5 spot in the MVP race, you want to win it.

[asdf1990]

i don't see him winning it this season unless the heat go on some crazy streak like 25 wins in a row or something.

[Dave3]

True, but you're not gunning for a top 5 spot in the MVP race, you want to win it.
Yeah yeah obviously. But "in the discussion" I think counts as a top 5 candidate, so I think later in the season he could be "in the discussion." You're right though, at the end of the day it's not worth anything except for discussion lol.

[ashbelly]

:rockon: :rockon: :rockon:

[PurpleChuck]

Kneejerk reaction.

I bet the game had you be multiple orgasm-ing.:oldlol:

[ashbelly]

Kneejerk reaction.

I bet the game had you be multiple orgasm-ing.:oldlol:


After this game, he's bound to be 2nd in the MVP rankings. We had our tough schedule in November, January is looks promising. All we need is to win 3 more games to get that 5 game winning streak going. I'm dissapointed at Kobe, dude refuses to prove me wrong every time, i had him tearing up the league when team WE DA BESS was formed. He's not even trying. :oldlol:

[guy]

It really isn't far-fetched at all. He's averaging 25/7/7 on 47%. Out of the top 4 teams in league (Boston, Miami, San Antonio, Dalls), which is usually one of the teams the MVP plays on, he has the most impressive numbers. He might win just cause of the fact that there is no one that really stands out.

[comerb]

honestly the only person I have above him atm is Dirk, and I highly doubt Dirk or the Mavs will continue playing as well as they have for the first part of the season... the Heat on the other hand just seem to be getting better.

But Durant will end up winning it.

[alenleomessi]

I said it 100 times and im saying it again
Its Durant vs Lebron all over again

[Ben Jordan]

LeBron is the most VALUABLE player this year. he defines the award.

anyone else is just a pity vote. Let the man be great. You all should realize he's legendary.

[Ben Jordan]

and tho he had one great game last night (a triple double in a blowout win vs the defending champs is nothing to overlook) you have to see how dominate he still is.......undoubtedly still the best player in the nba. Even though he won't average his cav numbers, he's still the best. you can't take that away from him.



I'm a die hard Bulls fan and I love D ROSE but cmon....lebron for mvp and its not even close

[Nash]

He's the best player, and don't be fooled by his numbers comparing to the ones in Cavs. If Wade and Bosh weren't there he would be averaging 30+. He's easily the best player in the league and giving it to someone else, they'll be fooling themselves.

[PullupJay]

1st of all I think ginobli or dirk should get it, 2nd what's with all this love for lebron I thought everybody hates the guy...

[bluechox2]

Key word "if" he was all alone he wud be putting up 30, yea obviously...this aint like every other season for him...MVP for lebron rests solely of team record or if he can lead his team to like 33 straight wins. He wont have the stats to back it up like seasons past.

[donald_trump]

even though im probably a bigger wade fan than i am a lebron one due to being a heat fan since before even wade came, i would honestly like to see what hes capable of averaging now without either bosh or wade there. hes just hitting his prime and averaging 25/7/7 on insane shooting efficiency with two other 20ppg scorers on his team.

so far id say he hasnt been as dominant or good as last season though i think this season clearly is better than his first mvp season.

[donald_trump]

Key word "if" he was all alone he wud be putting up 30, yea obviously...this aint like every other season for him...MVP for lebron rests solely of team record or if he can lead his team to like 33 straight wins. He wont have the stats to back it up like seasons past.

is there anyone who even has better stats than him this season anyway? :oldlol:

[asdf1990]

I said it 100 times and im saying it again
Its Durant vs Lebron all over again

Thank god cuz lebrons gonna win that every time. If it was lebron vs dirk I would be worried.

[Bigsmoke]

unless Wade gets injured and Lebron ended up carrying the team to 60+ wins. I dont see that happening.


The MVP will be rewarded to either Dirk, Amare, or Durant and i think its Dirk so far.

[PurpleChuck]

unless Wade gets injured and Lebron ended up carrying the team to 60+ wins. I dont see that happening.


The MVP will be rewarded to either Dirk, Amare, or Durant and i think its Dirk so far.

An underdog for MVP is Rose IMO. But yeah, Dirk leading the race now.

[junkifunki]

1-7

2-4

That's the Lakers' record vs winning teams.

[Bigsmoke]

An underdog for MVP is Rose IMO. But yeah, Dirk leading the race now.

hell yea. if only we had Noah last night :mad:

whatever. good win by the Knicks regardlessly and good defense by Amare last night

[PurpleChuck]

hell yea. if only we had Noah last night :mad:

whatever. good win by the Knicks regardlessly and good defense by Amare last night

Bulls are looking real good with Boozer. Nice job building the team, and Rose is really reliable. The team has future.:cheers:

[JohnWall2]

lebron isnt playin dat much better then wade

[comerb]

lebron isnt playin dat much better then wade

Read that sentence to yourself again, then if you don't understand why your an idiot... go jump off a cliff.

[JohnWall2]

Read that sentence to yourself again, then if you don't understand why your an idiot... go jump off a cliff.

u dumb? have u been watchin the games?

[Simple Jack]

lebron isnt playin dat much better then wade

Since when is this a negative? He's playing better, albeit even by a small margin if you think so, than one of the best players in the league. Hardly a detriment to his MVP chances.

[CanadaBBallFan]

u dumb? have u been watchin the games?

Dude, it could be argued that Wade is a top 5 player in the league, maybe even top 3, and you're trying to say that LeBron playing better than that is a bad thing...

:roll:

[ginobli2311]

don't underestimate the media backlash on lebron for mvp.

he and the heat are going to have to rip the league a new one if he wants MVP.

guys like dirk/durant/howard are going to be really hard to beat and you have guys like rose/williams/amare getting a ton of pub early on.

i don't see how lebron can win it....although i bet he finishes high. i just see durant winning it if the mavs/dirk fall off. the thunder are 21-10...on pace to win over 55 games and durant's numbers are already starting to vastly improve.

[tpols]

Since when is this a negative? He's playing better, albeit even by a small margin if you think so, than one of the best players in the league. Hardly a detriment to his MVP chances.
lol how can you be the most valuable player in the league when you're arguably not even the most valuable player on your team? This is just pure stupidity.

[ginobli2311]

lol how can you be the most valuable player in the league when you're arguably not even the most valuable player on your team? This is just pure stupidity.

coming from a huge wade guy.

lebron has clearly been the best player on the heat this year. he's been consistent and played first team all nba defense. in fact, he should be in the top 8 in DPOY right now.

trust me. lebron has been the best heat player so far. if you had watched all the games you would understand this.

[magnax1]

If they could give out co-MVP it'd make sense, otherwise it's just the media hyping up Lebron. There is no way he is MVP when the team without Lebron is already better then the team Wade won 47 with.
There is a reason why neither Baylor or West won an MVP.

[Kurosawa0]

No chance. Wade & LeBron cancel each other out.

[tpols]

coming from a huge wade guy.

lebron has clearly been the best player on the heat this year. he's been consistent and played first team all nba defense. in fact, he should be in the top 8 in DPOY right now.

trust me. lebron has been the best heat player so far. if you had watched all the games you would understand this.
Key Word: arguably.

I think lebron is better but by the end of the season a case for wade can easily be made. They are 1a/1b.

[ginobli2311]

Key Word: arguably.

I think lebron is better but by the end of the season a case for wade can easily be made. They are 1a/1b.

i'm solely going off what i've seen. wade has not been the player lebron has so far.

of course things could change. i'm just projecting off what i've seen to date. and that is simply that lebron has been the better player so far this year.

i still prefer wade overall and think he's better suited to take over in the playoffs, but MVP is a regular season award.

but like i said. the media backlash and the fact that lebron plays with wade/bosh is going to make it almost impossible to win the MVP unless he and the heat just go crazy.

its why dirk/durant/howard are all clearly ahead of him now and for projections and guys like rose/williams/amare are right there as well.

[Simple Jack]

lol how can you be the most valuable player in the league when you're arguably not even the most valuable player on your team? This is just pure stupidity.

You could have that argument for a bunch of the showtime years as well.

Anyway, LeBron is playing better than Wade. It's not by a huge margin, but it's pretty clear imo.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Nah, Lebron is still the best player in the league, IMO, but his cast is too good to give him the award unless Miami finishes with the best record and he ends up averaging like 28/7/8, which isn't going to happen.

It's not just that he plays with another top 3 player in Wade, but the fact that he has Bosh as a 3rd option whose made 5 straight all-star games and then the fact that he plays with good 3 point shooters and on a good defensie team(Lebron helps the defense, but they were very good defensively before he got there). That's just too good of a cast for me to give him MVP.

And the media will play a part, he's not loved anymore and that's a big part of getting an award given out by the media.

I predicted before the season that Durant would win it(even though I don't think he'll be the most deserving), I started to doubt that, but with OKC probably going to top their record last season and Durant looking like he'll have a similar season statistically and the fact that he's a popular player who finished 2nd in voting last year, it just seems like he'll get it.

If Orlando gets their shit together and wins around 55 games then Dwight could as well. Dirk is deserving, but I think after what happened in the playoffs when he won MVP, the media will be hesitant to vote for him unfortunately.

[Hulk Hogan]

Nah, Lebron is still the best player in the league, IMO, but his cast is too good to give him the award unless Miami finishes with the best record and he ends up averaging like 28/7/8, which isn't going to happen.

It's not just that he plays with another top 3 player in Wade, but the fact that he has Bosh as a 3rd option whose made 5 straight all-star games and then the fact that he plays with good 3 point shooters and on a good defensie team(Lebron helps the defense, but they were very good defensively before he got there). That's just too good of a cast for me to give him MVP.

And the media will play a part, he's not loved anymore and that's a big part of getting an award given out by the media.

I predicted before the season that Durant would win it(even though I don't think he'll be the most deserving), I started to doubt that, but with OKC probably going to top their record last season and Durant looking like he'll have a similar season statistically and the fact that he's a popular player who finished 2nd in voting last year, it just seems like he'll get it.

If Orlando gets their shit together and wins around 55 games then Dwight could as well. Dirk is deserving, but I think after what happened in the playoffs when he won MVP, the media will be hesitant to vote for him unfortunately.

:applause: This....except the underlined above! :facepalm

[ginobli2311]

Nah, Lebron is still the best player in the league, IMO, but his cast is too good to give him the award unless Miami finishes with the best record and he ends up averaging like 28/7/8, which isn't going to happen.

It's not just that he plays with another top 3 player in Wade, but the fact that he has Bosh as a 3rd option whose made 5 straight all-star games and then the fact that he plays with good 3 point shooters and on a good defensie team(Lebron helps the defense, but they were very good defensively before he got there). That's just too good of a cast for me to give him MVP.

And the media will play a part, he's not loved anymore and that's a big part of getting an award given out by the media.

I predicted before the season that Durant would win it(even though I don't think he'll be the most deserving), I started to doubt that, but with OKC probably going to top their record last season and Durant looking like he'll have a similar season statistically and the fact that he's a popular player who finished 2nd in voting last year, it just seems like he'll get it.

If Orlando gets their shit together and wins around 55 games then Dwight could as well. Dirk is deserving, but I think after what happened in the playoffs when he won MVP, the media will be hesitant to vote for him unfortunately.

i feel the exact same way. although i think dirk has a little bit better of chance than you are giving him.

[Yuki Nagato]

It would be a travesty. They (miami) might not win more than Bron's Cavaliers in the past 2 seasons, and let's not compare rosters...

[InfiniteBaskets]

If the playoffs started tomorrow, it would really be Dirk's to lose. Of course there's plenty of times for standings to change. But when was the last time a player from non-top four team in the league won it?

2009-10 LeBron James Cleveland (1st in league)
2008-09 LeBron James Cleveland (1st in league)
2007-08 Kobe Bryant Los Angeles Lakers (3rd in league behind Bos,Det)
2006-07 Dirk Nowitzki Dallas (1st in league)
2005-06 Steve Nash Phoenix (3rd in league behind SA, Det)
2004-05 Steve Nash Phoenix (1st in league)
2003-04 Kevin Garnett Minnesota (2nd in league behind Ind)
2002-03 Tim Duncan San Antonio (Tied for 1st with Dallas)
2001-02 Tim Duncan San Antonio (Tied for 2nd with LA, behind SAC)
2000-01 Allen Iverson Philadelphia (Tied for 2nd with LA, behind SA)
1999-00 Shaquille O'Neal Los Angeles Lakers (1st in league)

If top five teams are (in no order): Miami, Boston, LA, San Antonio, Dallas. The clear cut candidate would be Dirk? Then if not Dirk it would be Kobe and LeBron (maybe Wade) following.

Does anyone else think this might be the year someone from a team with a record 4th best in the league or worse gets it?

[Simple Jack]

It would be a travesty. They (miami) might not win more than Bron's Cavaliers in the past 2 seasons, and let's not compare rosters...

LeBron will never win MVP again if that's the standard you expect people to hold him up to. If Miami finishes as the best team in the league, I see no reason why LeBron wouldn't be heavily considered.

[knightfall88]

well in my opinion Wade has been better. He was the one who was attacking and breaking down the defense for Lebron last night.

I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same.

[Dolphin]

Lebron is clearly a better player than Dirk, Howard, Amare, etc.

He is putting up similar or better stats than those guys.

His team is just behind Dallas right now and better than the othet two teams.

I guess that means he shouldn't win the MVP.

Those other guys winning will be like Malone winning the award over Jordan. People will find an excuse not to give it to him.

[Simple Jack]

well in my opinion Wade has been better. He was the one who was attacking and breaking down the defense for Lebron last night.

I'm sure a lot of other people feel the same.

You think Wade had a better game than LeBron last night?

[creepingdeath]

Lebron is clearly a better player than Dirk, Howard, Amare, etc.

He is putting up similar or better stats than those guys.

His team is just behind Dallas right now and better than the othet two teams.

I guess that means he shouldn't win the MVP.

Those other guys winning will be like Malone winning the award over Jordan. People will find an excuse not to give it to him.
No one doubts that. But he has a far, far superior cast in the easier Eastern conference, while having a worse team record AND he lost twice to the Mavs. If things go well for the Mavs, they might have the #1 spot by the end of the year.

[JohnWall2]

Dude, it could be argued that Wade is a top 5 player in the league, maybe even top 3, and you're trying to say that LeBron playing better than that is a bad thing...

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Since when is this a negative? He's playing better, albeit even by a small margin if you think so, than one of the best players in the league. Hardly a detriment to his MVP chances.

i neva said it was a bad thing, i jus sayin dat wade is playin almost as good so y cant he get some luv?

dirk deserves it right now tho

[kkling]

He's playing better as of late, but let's not forget how awful he was early in the season. He's still a TO machine.

[Simple Jack]

He's playing better as of late, but let's not forget how awful he was early in the season. He's still a TO machine.

Hardly awful. Everyone here like to exaggerate huh?

[Mr. Grieves]

M.V.P.

Most. Valuable. Player.

On the heat who the Most Valuable Player is, is up for debate. To be MVP you should be clear cut head and shoulders above the rest of your teamates and elevate your team to the next level at the same time.

[M.V.P]

Lebron is clearly a better player than Dirk, Howard, Amare, etc.

He is putting up similar or better stats than those guys.

His team is just behind Dallas right now and better than the othet two teams.

I guess that means he shouldn't win the MVP.

Those other guys winning will be like Malone winning the award over Jordan. People will find an excuse not to give it to him.
The difference is those guys don't have guys like Wade/Bosh on their teams, making them more necessary to their teams success.

[knightfall88]

You think Wade had a better game than LeBron last night?

Not the one with most efficient game but he was most valuable. He was one breaking down the Lakers during key moments. Lebron just fed off that and iced it. The offense ran through Wade last night.

[Simple Jack]

Not the one with most efficient game but he was most valuable. He was one breaking down the Lakers during key moments. Lebron just fed off that and iced it. The offense ran through Wade last night.

How about who was the most effective? What key moments are you talking about? If I recall correctly, it was LeBron hitting the big time threes, and making the big defensive stops.


On the heat who the Most Valuable Player is, is up for debate. To be MVP you should be clear cut head and shoulders above the rest of your teamates and elevate your team to the next level at the same time.

Can you really make a case that Magic was head and shoulders above Kareem each year he won MVP or vice versa?

[francesco totti]

I think the side of the argument is. Lebron left cleveland, and with almost the same team cleveland been sucking badly. on the other hand the team that lebron went on improved massively.

He has a case for MVP, and the numbers he is putting qualifies him to win it.

[RazorBaLade]

I think the side of the argument is. Lebron left cleveland, and with almost the same team cleveland been sucking badly. on the other hand the team that lebron went on improved massively.

He has a case for MVP, and the numbers he is putting qualifies him to win it.

ALMOST the same team, dumbass? he was the best player. HOw the.. If u take dirk off the mavs thats ALMOST the same team?

Why isn't Bosh an MVP candidate? Raptors are doing much worse with "ALMOST" the same team, and since we're not talking about teammates lets just say the team bosh went to improved massively. BOSH MVP GUISE

[JrueHoliday11]

M.V.P.

Most. Valuable. Player.

On the heat who the Most Valuable Player is, is up for debate. To be MVP you should be clear cut head and shoulders above the rest of your teamates and elevate your team to the next level at the same time.

agreed:cheers:

[Sakkreth]

LeBron has big shot at MVP, he's best player to play the game, is there any more important things to be MVP ?

I still have Dirk over him with his great performance and good team record.

[CaptainObvious.]

LeBron has big shot at MVP, he's best player to play the game, is there any more important things to be MVP ?

I still have Dirk over him with his great performance and good team record.

LeBron James has 2 Most Valuable Player awards.

[Sakkreth]

M.V.P.

Most. Valuable. Player.

On the heat who the Most Valuable Player is, is up for debate. To be MVP you should be clear cut head and shoulders above the rest of your teamates and elevate your team to the next level at the same time.

Well then only Dirk or Amare can win it, Lakers got Gasol, OKC got Westbrook, Miami has Wade/Bosh, Celtics has whole trio near Rondo and so on.

[Sakkreth]

LeBron James has 2 Most Valuable Player awards.

Ur point is that if he has MVP awards already but still is most valuable player he shouldn't get the award again or what ? Sorry i don't get what u mean by this.

[JrueHoliday11]

Ur point is that if he has MVP awards already but still is most valuable player he shouldn't get the award again or what ? Sorry i don't get what u mean by this.
captain obvious

[Sakkreth]

captain obvious

Ok i got owned :cheers:

[JrueHoliday11]

Ok i got owned :cheers:
:lol :lol :lol :cheers: :cheers:

[MikeBeas]

:lol

[francesco totti]

ALMOST the same team, dumbass? he was the best player. HOw the.. If u take dirk off the mavs thats ALMOST the same team?

Why isn't Bosh an MVP candidate? Raptors are doing much worse with "ALMOST" the same team, and since we're not talking about teammates lets just say the team bosh went to improved massively. BOSH MVP GUISE


Raptors are still doing better without bosh then Cleveland been doing without Lebron.Plus Cleveland was the superior team to toronto last year... who didnt even make the playoffs(toronto were less then .500 last year). Cleveland fell down much bigger then Toronto.Its noticable.

I didnt expect Lebron to be so influential for cleveland.I thought even without him, they would be at least 7th or 8th. To me this season proved, Cleveland was one man team ( Lebron) last few years.

[bbms]

LeBron deserves.

I thought he would have lesser impact on Heat than Cleveland, and he had. But his impact is still MVP level, 3 TD with WADE AND BOSH OMG!

[Richesly]

But but I thought it was all about fmvp for Lebron :oldlol:
it is

GOAT


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