Recruiting for next season

[insidehoops]

Discuss various recruiting classes and which college basketball teams got the best sets of players for the 2006-07 season

[The REAL Next KNICK]

ohio state has the best recruiting class, greg oden, mike conley, david lightly and daqaeun cook. UNC has brandon wright, wayne ellington, williams graves and tywon lawson coming in. Next Year is going to be a fun year of college basketball

[SecondFiddle]

UNC had the best class and Ohio State was second, KU also did well.

[WilliamPhiladelphiaSmith]

If I'm not mistaken Uconn and DUke round out the top 5.

Uconn'z recruits are severely overrated this year.

Thomas and Henderson compliment McRoberts very well. IMO K should develop a fast paced system like Champion Tarheels. All these guys are pretty athletic.

My team (Nova's) got a decent recruiting class with Pena and the others but for now we need to rely on Sumpter's return.

Uconn is picking up an athletic big SF in StanRob, an extremely athletic scrubby PG in Wigginz, a couple of bigmen in Thabeet/Mandeldove, and another athletic PF type in Kelly.

That's a sweet team right there combined with Adrien's aggressiveness, and Austrie's control. PS watch for Marcus Johnson to explode.

[lilgodfather1]

That would be an epic series, but the Spurs will be outed by the Thunder.

[Jailblazers7]

I wonder if Pitt's 5 star recruit will actual make it through the season or make an impact (I'm looking at you Dante Taylor).

[ace23]

That would be an epic series, but the Spurs will be outed by the Thunder.
WTF happened here?

[SourPatchKids]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNi4iOu9NCU&feature=g-all-lik
New Wiggins Mixtape

[IGotACoolStory]

Oh lordy, he's an amazing talent. Tighten up the handle a little and he has the physical and mental tools to be an all-timer.

Post that shit on the NBA board.

[chips93]

Oh lordy, he's an amazing talent. Tighten up the handle a little and he has the physical and mental tools to be an all-timer.

Post that shit on the NBA board.

seems like you'd be the guy to ask, what is the latest on him reclassifying?

[IGotACoolStory]

All signs point to yes. Apparently he's taking the course load so he can graduate after this year of high school if he pleases.

I don't understand why he would do that and then not reclassify.

It seems obvious that he will reclassify and then head to Kentucky. I'm not hearing any vibes from the FSU camp, although UK fans think they will land everyone so... For all I know, he already has a silent verbal to FSU. But I doubt it.

[SourPatchKids]

Is Jabari headed to MSU?

[InspiredLebowski]

Is Jabari headed to MSU?I think that's where he winds up. Assuming they all stick around (which they won't, specifically Dawson), Harris/Dawson/Parker/Payne/Appling is a lineup that'd make Cal jizz.

Anyway, there's a this kid Josh Jackson outta Detroit. Class of 16, next big prodigy. He's 6'6 as a freshman so it could definitely be a case of his peers just needing to catch up physically, but it's not like he's a post, the kid's a 14 year old 6'6 wing that can put the ball on the floor with either hand in traffic.

[SourPatchKids]

I
Class of 16,
:eek: Same age as me.

[InspiredLebowski]

:eek: Same age as me.I'm sure there's stuff on YouTube. He went against Eron Gordon (Eric's little brother) a week or so ago I believe. Eron's REALLY good. They didn't even compare.

[chips93]

any of you guys know what happened to mitch mcgary? espn and yahoo both have him outside their top 20s right now, only like 6 months ago he was top 5. did he get hurt or something? why the big slide in rank?

[UConnCeltics]

Because he is white, duh.

[Snoop_Cat]

any of you guys know what happened to mitch mcgary? espn and yahoo both have him outside their top 20s right now, only like 6 months ago he was top 5. did he get hurt or something? why the big slide in rank?

He got absolutely stomped on by another top recruit. It was Noel if I remember right.

[IGotACoolStory]

He rose up the rankings too fast. He went from out of the top 100 to in the top 5 like nothing. Like I said before, scouts have a major problem with jumping on (or jumping off) a player's bandwagon and they snowball the hell out of their ranking. McGary was never a top 5 player; just like most of the players who were top 10 early in the rankings that drop to 70+ at some point are better than 80.

Look at Kuran Iverson. He goes from around the top of the class, to falling to the bottom of the top 100, and now he's going to end up in the Mc'D area. They too quickly dropped him. I bet you JP Tokoto ends up better than the 70th best in his class.

[SourPatchKids]

Tokoto is forrealz. i saw the Wisconsin Playground Warriors at my Vegas tournament.

[InspiredLebowski]

any of you guys know what happened to mitch mcgary? espn and yahoo both have him outside their top 20s right now, only like 6 months ago he was top 5. did he get hurt or something? why the big slide in rank?He was nowhere near that good in the first place. He got out of podunk Chesterton and scouts saw him for the first time and got hard over it. Then he went through another summer against top guys and realized he''s a guy that should be in the 50s, Derek Willis style, just not as severe a drop because of his size.

[IlliniFan]

If we can get Demetrius Jackson out of Indiana and away from Kansas I will love John Groce forever. Illinois hasn't had a player like him in a loooong time.

[Goliath Uterus]

If we can get Demetrius Jackson out of Indiana and away from Kansas I will love John Groce forever. Illinois hasn't had a player like him in a loooong time.

We won't even need Jackson if we sign Cat Barber.

[Burgz V2]

any of you guys know what happened to mitch mcgary? espn and yahoo both have him outside their top 20s right now, only like 6 months ago he was top 5. did he get hurt or something? why the big slide in rank?

he got wrecked in one of the camps by a number of big man prospects, which leads many scouts (and myself included) that he hasn't really improved that much since last year

[Burgz V2]

Tokoto is forrealz. i saw the Wisconsin Playground Warriors at my Vegas tournament.

nba athleticism, sure.

he needs to get stronger. he needs to work on his jumper. and he definitely needs to work on his ballhandling. otherwise he's just derozan 2.0

[IlliniFan]

We won't even need Jackson if we sign Cat Barber.
Barber to NC State. I'd love for Kansas to strike out with both Barber and Jackson. Hopefully Jackson commits to Illinois and Kansas is left out in the cold.

[IGotACoolStory]

Did you hear the rumors about Barber?

He goes to visit Louisville (very much in his recruitment at the time) about a week back. Thing are fine and then he gets caught stealing a girl's cell phone and/or about $1500 worth of crap from the players. :lol

Pitino then informed Self and Grant (KU and Bama also near the top of his list) and they dropped their offers.

Apparently State was his only option left. Because Gottfried doesn't care about that kind of stuff? I mean Purvis still isn't illegible. To be fair, Purvis graduated top of his class. Of course, he was the only graduating student in his class...

It also makes sense about Barber. He gave no implication that he would be deciding this soon. At the very least, he would take his visits. I heard a lot of rumors about him and Troy Williams pairing up at Bama. Then suddenly he commits on the spot to NC State? And this is a top 10 kid too... Something happened.

[IlliniFan]

I don't know about any of that, haven't been following his recruitment.

[InspiredLebowski]

Barber's sanctions waiting to happen. But that's nothing new for NC State. Jackson's going to end up at Illinois, just may take a minute. Good for them I guess, just hope it doesn't influence Bates-Diop. But it will.

Told you Groce was a good hire.

[Jameerthefear]

Anyone heard of Lewis Sullivan?

[UConnCeltics]

Parker added UConn. Guess Ollie can talk a good game?

[IlliniFan]

Barber's sanctions waiting to happen. But that's nothing new for NC State. Jackson's going to end up at Illinois, just may take a minute. Good for them I guess, just hope it doesn't influence Bates-Diop. But it will.

Told you Groce was a good hire.
I liked the hire when it was made, I just think fans were still getting over the rejection by two other coaches.

As far as Demetrius Jackson, I don't know. From what I'm reading it's down to ND or Illinois (Kansas was a player), and both fan bases seem to think he's theirs. We'll see what happens, but ND has been recruiting him a bit longer. He's #1 on my wish list. Illinois hasn't had an athletic point guard like him in some time.

In more good news, Xavier Rathan-Mayes, #25 in the 2013 class according to rivals, is on campus for his official this weekend. It's down to us, UConn, and FSU for him. Groce has been pretty impressive in getting in on some of these kids in a relatively short period of time. Definitely has the fan base excited.

[SourPatchKids]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQSrotcXqOE

[SourPatchKids]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR9NmEbohAY

[Burgz V2]

SPK I didn't even click the link but i know they are mixes of west coast players :lol

[SourPatchKids]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VIVBbfcWqqU

Ferocious phenom.

[IlliniFan]

I liked the hire when it was made, I just think fans were still getting over the rejection by two other coaches.

As far as Demetrius Jackson, I don't know. From what I'm reading it's down to ND or Illinois (Kansas was a player), and both fan bases seem to think he's theirs. We'll see what happens, but ND has been recruiting him a bit longer. He's #1 on my wish list. Illinois hasn't had an athletic point guard like him in some time.

In more good news, Xavier Rathan-Mayes, #25 in the 2013 class according to rivals, is on campus for his official this weekend. It's down to us, UConn, and FSU for him. Groce has been pretty impressive in getting in on some of these kids in a relatively short period of time. Definitely has the fan base excited.

Well ****...whiffed on both.

[InspiredLebowski]

Well ****...whiffed on both.Still getting and staying in the hunt for a coach that hasn't even coached a game yet is a good sign.

But yeah, dude still needs to back off KBD.

[IGotACoolStory]

Across other recruiting boards, it appears Wiggins is exploring more options outside of UK and FSU. His family has been calling schools over the past week asking for increased involvement in his recruitment. In the last year +, it has always been implied that those two schools were the only options.

So this is interesting to say the least. Guess if he decides to reclassify, he doesn't want to go to a team where there's 3, or more, guys who prefer to have the ball in their hands already.

UK got lucky with MKG and Davis. Both can be extremely effective (I'd say better, even) off the ball. The team they are building looks more like a collection of talent rather than a masterpiece that can develop chemistry in less than a season.

I also heard Wiggins and Randle aren't fans of the Harrison twins so that might have something to do with it. Although most assume Randle is probably going to UK anyway.


Obviously don't count out UK yet. IMO, this says two things though...
1) He might want to go to a team where he can be featured more.
2) If so, he may not feel as comfortable heading to FSU as people seem to think. Because there he would clearly be the top dog, his father went to FSU, his high school teammate is joining the Seminoles... Yet, he is expanding his list?

It also pretty much guarantees he reclassifies.

[SourPatchKids]

Good analysis on Wiggin's situation. Frankly I'll be happy if he goes anywhere but UK. Of course I would love for him to come to MSU that's not happening. Hopefully we can nab Jabari though.

[veilside23]

excited to know where wiggins will go... i hope he goes this year... cant wait for him to get to NBA.

[chips93]

It also pretty much guarantees he reclassifies.

how so?

[IGotACoolStory]

Because he was likely heading to UK. His reclassification was in limbo and UK had been stringing James Young around the entire time waiting on Wiggins. They decided to take on Young.

Do you think most of the 2013 UK recruits will still be there in 2014 if he doesn't reclassify? I don't and the majority of recruits don't expect them to be either, which is how Cal can reload for the following season before the current season starts. Right now he's getting guys and he doesn't even have enough scholarships for... Why? Because we all know the freshman, and maybe someone like Harrow, will bolt for the NBA.

So why would Wiggins worry about players who won't even be there in two years?

btw, the list of schools the Wiggins camp reached out to is:
-North Carolina (Been listed in his top 3 for over the past year, has family in NC, his dad grew up in NC and wanted to attend UNC.)
-Kansas (Recently started recruiting him. Not sure of any connections.)
-Ohio State (Recently as well, a bit longer than KU. Has a brother at Wichita State)
-Syracuse (They haven't started recruiting him yet. His AAU teammate Tyler Ennis is committed to them.)

To go along with:
-UK (One and done school)
-FSU (Parents went there and has a good relationship with Leonard Hamilton)


A quote from Wiggins, himself:

“Every school is the same to me right now,” Wiggins said. “I don’t have any favorites. Even if a new school wanted to recruit me they can. My options are wide open, but a lot of schools aren’t recruiting me because of what they think.”

“I told them so they know now,” he added. “Hopefully other schools know now so they can start recruiting me.”

Virtually only FSU and UK have been recruiting him over the past year.

This is the consensus best player in his class since he was a freshman. Most seem to think he's the best player not in the NBA, including high school, college, and overseas....

Yet, no one else is even giving him a flier? That's how much it was assumed he would end up at UK or FSU. Even the college coaches knew it.

There's so much to take in his recruitment now... I don't think anyone has a clue where he is going anymore.

[IGotACoolStory]

One of the better AAU tournaments started today, City of Palms Classic.
http://www.cityofpalmsclassic.com/scores-stats.php

Big time recruits like Andrew Wiggins, D'Angelo Russell, Justin Jackson, Marcus Derrickson, Jahlil Okafor, and Kasey Hill are playing.

Wiggins stole the show with a 31 point, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks performance. He finished the game 15 of 22 from the field while being matched up with top 20 2014 target, Justin Jackson.

Eric Bossi, the head scout at Rivals, tweeted:

It's been the Andrew Wiggins show on both ends of the floor. Trying to think of a guy with his defensive ability at 17 years old.

Telling you, McGrady on offense, Pippen on defense, with MJ's killer instinct. ...Only half kidding.

[kNicKz]

Got this recruit for next season

Kentan Facey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD3fmNfSSJY

:confusedshrug:

[Dave3]

One of the better AAU tournaments started today, City of Palms Classic.
http://www.cityofpalmsclassic.com/scores-stats.php

Big time recruits like Andrew Wiggins, D'Angelo Russell, Justin Jackson, Marcus Derrickson, Jahlil Okafor, and Kasey Hill are playing.

Wiggins stole the show with a 31 point, 8 rebounds, 3 blocks performance. He finished the game 15 of 22 from the field while being matched up with top 20 2014 target, Justin Jackson.

Eric Bossi, the head scout at Rivals, tweeted:


Telling you, McGrady on offense, Pippen on defense, with MJ's killer instinct. ...Only half kidding.
At the high school level, he's probably ahead of any of them at the moment. Those players all became great as they matured into their 20's.

I just wish though he grows another inch or two, so he reaches Tmac size. He's already a very good size to play the SG in the NBA, but he would struggle as it is going against the more elite SFs like Granger, Gay, Iggy, Pierce and of course LeBron, guys who can post him up and back him down all the way to the rim. If he has the length of a Tmac, he doesn't need to gain as much weight to compete with those guys and keep the load off his knees for as long as possible. With length and height you can defend without matching strength.

In his two games he played well scoring and rebounding, but in both games combined he had 0 assists. I don't know if it's because of the fact that it's high school and he's so much better than the rest of the players, but playmaking/vision is one of those inherent skills in a player that are less likely to develop like shooting, defense, or post skills, so I wonder where he's at with respect to that. Any links to full games from the tournament?

[IGotACoolStory]

I guess performance is thread bump worthy.

Ben Weixlmann ‏@BWeixScout
Andrew Wiggins dropped 57 points on 24-for-28 shooting, per @FSOhioZJackson. That's efficient.

I should mention that just early today in an SI article his motor was questioned (which I think is absurd). He took note of it in a tweet, I think, and then played like that.


@Dave3 I didn't see your post and it's been a couple months...

I definitely agree that playmaking is not a strength of his. He's not... Well I hate to throw my own guy under the bus, but he's not Harrison Barnes either. He shown some unselfishness and passing ability in some of the games I've watched. Really, though, a lot of it has to do with that he can be unstoppable going to the rim at the high school level and he's the type of player that goes for points first.

I don't have any videos. Although some tournaments tend to have replays on their site. I'll look around.

This is from the Peach Jam.
http://www.ihigh.com/peachjam/broadcasts.html?mode=school&schoolid=27479&status=completed

Search for CIA Bounce.

I strongly recommend this game against Julius Randle. Shows a good deal of his current offensive skill set (good and bad), his defensive ability against a guy bigger than what he will face in the NBA, and his ability to take over a game on both ends. The second half is where he starts to impose his talent.

http://www.ihigh.com/peachjam/broadcast_233574.html?silverlight=1