Melo "wants" trade to Knicks and Knicks only

[Patrick Chewing]

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5912307

[QUOTE]NEW YORK -- Carmelo Anthony has told the Denver Nuggets he will not sign the nearly $65 million contract extension he has been offered unless he is traded to the New York Knicks, a source told ESPN.com on Sunday.

The source, using the most definitive language possible, confirmed what has been widely speculated around the NBA over the past two months as Anthony has been at the center of trade talks involving numerous teams.

[GreatGreg]

Heeeeeeee's going to New York. Oh well.

[alenleomessi]

Just go already so Griffin can make the all star :rant

[Mr Clutch Melo]

Trade his overrated ass and to cleveland or charlotte...F*ck Melo...Overrated chucker than dont play defense.

Lol JK, still my favorite player. But Masai needs to trade him. He clearly does not want to be in Denver, send him to New Jersey . Favors is a stud!

[bagelred]

Denver.....Eddy Curry, Bill Walker, and a 2nd Round Draft Pick. Take it or leave it. :lol

[Sarcastic]

In b4 Nets/Nuggets fans say he will sign the extension with NJ.

[GOBB]

In b4...oh geeze, you beat me to it :facepalm

[Kblaze8855]

Id love to see Felton Melo, and amare for a few years.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Trade his overrated ass and to cleveland or charlotte...F*ck Melo...Overrated chucker than dont play defense.

Lol JK, still my favorite player. But Masai needs to trade him. He clearly does not want to be in Denver, send him to New Jersey . Favors is a stud!
:lol :lol :lol i see what you did there:lol

[SavageMode]

Basically screwed any chance for Denver to get anything out of him..

[Nets fan 93]

A possible trade by the end of the month?

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Just go already so Griffin can make the all star :rant

or Love or Beasley:banana: :banana:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

:lol :lol :lol i see what you did there:lol
:cheers: :roll:

[Batz]

or Love or Beasley:banana: :banana:
No, just no...

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

:cheers: :roll:
:banana: :banana: :banana: O well, Melo had a great career with the Nuggets

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

No, just no...

Batz i thought us Canadians bros were supposed to stick together:mad:

[Sarcastic]

Basically screwed any chance for Denver to get anything out of him..

They expected too much. Franchise players don't get traded for other franchise players. They get traded for role players.

[Draz]

i prefer felton he earned my respect. melo can take his time

[tpols]

Aigt NOW you guys got your proof.

[alenleomessi]

Nets are dumb giving Harris and Favors and picks, i dont know what the hell Nuggets are waiting for

[tpols]

Nets are dumb giving Harris and Favors and picks, i dont know what the hell Nuggets are waiting for
Favors is only 19 and a very aggressive rebounder and worker. Plus he's 6'9-6'10 and 260+ lbs. This guy is going to be a stud. He's already built like tree, can jump, has great rebounding and defensive instincts, and he's playing aggressively. I wouldn't want to give him up right now.

[GOBB]

Nets are dumb giving Harris and Favors and picks, i dont know what the hell Nuggets are waiting for

Carmelo Anthony is a free agent at seasons end. Anyone trading for him must be certain he will infact sign a contract extension there. Otherwise chances of a trade involving that kind of package isnt going to happen. I dont know why the hell you think Denver is waiting.

[niko]

Favors is only 19 and a very aggressive rebounder and worker. Plus he's 6'9-6'10 and 260+ lbs. This guy is going to be a stud. He's already built like tree, can jump, has great rebounding and defensive instincts, and he's playing aggressively. I wouldn't want to give him up right now.
You shouldn't be in this thread. YOu all but said this was impossible. This couldn't be. MELO WOULDNNT SAU THIS! WHAT ABOUT THE NUGGETS LEVERAGE?

[Omar_Little]

Just wait til the summer, I want to see what this team can do without him first.

[tpols]

You shouldn't be in this thread. YOu all but said this was impossible. This couldn't be. MELO WOULDNNT SAU THIS! WHAT ABOUT THE NUGGETS LEVERAGE?
Melo confirmed that he wants to go to the knicks. For the first time. Today. This doesn't change the fact that you were bullshitting all along with no sources or info.:oldlol:

[MeLO MvP 15]

I'm not saying that this isn't true, but I find it so funny that whenever Melo plays on the East Coast (like a road trip) the rumors swirl up again and when he's in Denver the rumors of him staying appear. I'm not saying either one is true (although, technically one has to come true) , I'm just saying that I wouldn't put any stock into this report or any other reports b/c it seems like random speculation by writers and their "sources."

[PrimeJohnnyDepp]

Car-Mellow Antho-Pippen.

Just call him that now. What a wanker. First cutting hair for Live 08 now this.

[iDunk]

Its Anthony's choice where he wants to go and Denver can't do anything about it unless a team is willing to rent Anthony.

He's going to be a New York Knick if he wants to but Denver is being stupid and isn't willing to take anything from New York. The Knicks can make anyone on their team available except, Fields, Amare, Felton, Chandler or Turiaf. If I were Walsh I would tell Ujiri, its Curry, Gallo, Randolph, 2nd rounder or nothing.

[niko]

I'm not saying that this isn't true, but I find it so funny that whenever Melo plays on the East Coast (like a road trip) the rumors swirl up again and when he's in Denver the rumors of him staying appear. I'm not saying either one is true (although, technically one has to come true) , I'm just saying that I wouldn't put any stock into this report or any other reports b/c it seems like random speculation by writers and their "sources."
UNless it says Melo is willing to go to the Nets in which case it feels almost true even though its a rumor, right?

[New York Knicks]

And Nets fans get out the rope and chair.

[New York Knicks]

This is something most of us already knew. Not sure what's so hard to believe about Melo not wanting to play for the Nets. Shitty city. Shitty franchise. Shitty team.

[StroShow4]

What happens to Wilson Chandler if Melo goes to the Knicks? Assuming he isn't one of the players sent to Denver, if they want to find minutes for him they'll have to go small a lot.

[lilojmayo]

What happens to Wilson Chandler if Melo goes to the Knicks? Assuming he isn't one of the players sent to Denver, if they want to find minutes for him they'll have to go small a lot.



spoke to a source familiar with the Grizzlies before who told me that any potential (emphasis on potential) deal for OJ Mayo would include Chandler, who the Griz front office is particularly fond of and after seeing the performance today, why wouldn’t they be.



http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/12/12/recap-knicks-129-nuggets-125-2/

This is where O.J. Mayo comes into play. There is no secret that Walsh has always been particular fond of his talents. Chandler is an RFA after this year, no way they can pay him he is going to command a lot of money on the market. Mayo has this year and next year left.

From my understand it looks like Walsh is trying to trade Anthony Randolph for a 1st round pick then include Gallinari, Eddie Curry, Landry Fields for Carmelo Anthony. Then look at a potential Wilson Chandler-OJ Mayo as the main players deal.

It is almost 100% chance Melo is coming if not this season, in the off season. And a good chance Mayo will be by deadline.

[QuebecBaller]

Batz i thought us Canadians bros were supposed to stick together:mad:

You're canadian?
:cheers: :cheers:

[Harrison_Barnes]

Just pull the trigger on the trade already Denver..

[MeLO MvP 15]

Felton-Mayo-Melo-Amare is so scary... damn that team can score with anyone... also it leaves the door open for a CP3 deal (something around Felton and Mayo for Paul).... add a center to that team and they'd prob have a legit shot at a ring...

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

You're canadian?
:cheers: :cheers:
:djparty :djparty

born in Montreal but moved to Toronto when i was like 3:dancin :dancin :dancin

[niko]

Felton-Mayo-Melo-Amare is so scary... damn that team can score with anyone... also it leaves the door open for a CP3 deal (something around Felton and Mayo for Paul).... add a center to that team and they'd prob have a legit shot at a ring...
Assuming Melo is gone (forget Knicks, whatever) as a Nuggets fans what do you want to do? Build on the fly or ship everyone with any pulse out the door.

[niko]

:djparty :djparty

born in Montreal but moved to Toronto when i was like 3:dancin :dancin :dancin

Do you feel a strong internal rivalry with yourself?

[StroShow4]

http://www.theknicksblog.com/2010/12/12/recap-knicks-129-nuggets-125-2/

This is where O.J. Mayo comes into play. There is no secret that Walsh has always been particular fond of his talents. Chandler is an RFA after this year, no way they can pay him he is going to command a lot of money on the market. Mayo has this year and next year left.

From my understand it looks like Walsh is trying to trade Anthony Randolph for a 1st round pick then include Gallinari, Eddie Curry, Landry Fields for Carmelo Anthony. Then look at a potential Wilson Chandler-OJ Mayo as the main players deal.

It is almost 100% chance Melo is coming if not this season, in the off season. And a good chance Mayo will be by deadline.

That's interesting. Why does Memphis want Chandler? They've already got Rudy Gay at his position.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Do you feel a strong internal rivalry with yourself?
no not really

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

That's interesting. Why does Memphis want Chandler? They've already got Rudy Gay at his position.

yeah thats what i'm saying.

[dak121]

That's interesting. Why does Memphis want Chandler? They've already got Rudy Gay at his position.

Because their GM is an idiot. Just like more than half the GMs in the NBA currently.

And the crew running the Nuggets right now is leading the way in that regards. They couldn't have handled this situation any worse if all they end up with for Carmelo is Gallinari, Curry's expirer and crappy draft picks.

Looks like Denver is on its way to being a 20 win a season team soon.

Knick fans should be thanking the gods that they have Walsh running the show there. He has handled this situation about as well as you can without tampering.

[crisoner]

Ummm is Mayo in NY already as well?

Wow...all of a sudden NY is the place to be. Melo on the Knocks would be nice.

[MeLO MvP 15]

Assuming Melo is gone (forget Knicks, whatever) as a Nuggets fans what do you want to do? Build on the fly or ship everyone with any pulse out the door.
I'm actually a Nuggets fan because of Carmelo... started watching basketball the year he was drafted and everyone loved LeBron and I for some reason loved Melo (despite my hometown team being Miami, and they had always been my favorite team but I didn't rly follow bball too much before then) so I became a Denver fan (and eventually a crazy obsessed Nuggets fan)... but Idk what I would do if Melo is traded or leaves... I'm probably gonna end up becoming a NY fan, but Denver would become my 3rd favorite team... but since I'm a Denver fan now, I would say the best for the team without Melo would be to get a package like Chandler, Randolph, Curry and Fields (assuming NY would do that) and then the team shipping out Billups for a decent back up PG and a pick (mainly to get Lawson some minutes) and try to make a run a true big like Gasol during free agency next summer...

[lilojmayo]

That's interesting. Why does Memphis want Chandler? They've already got Rudy Gay at his position.

First of all it is the Grizzlies they are capable of anything we all know the Pau trade and what it did to the Lakers.

Next Chandler is one of the more versatile players in the league can play 2-4 easily. Zach Randolph contract situation is at a halt. Grizzlies could use his money to pay Chandler. I would assume we could see a lot of Gay and Chandler on the floor together at the 3-4 interchanging while having Gasol and even possibly Thabeet at the 5 spot. Playing small ball I guess.

[Blue&Orange]

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From my understand it looks like Walsh is trying to trade Anthony Randolph for a 1st round pick then include Gallinari, Eddie Curry, Landry Fields for Carmelo Anthony.
Your "understand" is weak and wrong. Gallinari and Fields? lol
The only thing Denver is going to get from the Knicks is a trade exception, some second round pick and some scrub. And that's why Denver will wait for the trade deadline, cause trade exceptions have 1 year limit, and it's best have a trade exception expiring at the trade deadline then at the start of the season.

[lilojmayo]

Ummm is Mayo in NY already as well?

Wow...all of a sudden NY is the place to be. Melo on the Knocks would be nice.

Not yet. Mayo is on the block pretty much. The Grizzlies made a statement saying he wasn't like 1-2 weeks ago, but all indications from Mayo's inner circle is he is and could be deal very soon, as early as next week and likely to the Knicks. Again, it doesn't surprise me because if you remember Walsh really wanted to get O.J. Mayo during the 2008 draft, he was very close to try to trade up for him, and raved about his workout he saw with them. Now that Mayo's value is at a low since he went to the bench, Walsh is ready to try to buy low, so let's see what happens between now and the deadline.

As for Melo he is without question going to be a Knick. It looks like the Nuggets are getting tired of the games he has been playing and are ready to deal him, but he says he will only go to the Knicks.

[lilojmayo]

Your "understand" is weak and wrong. Gallinari and Fields? lol
The only thing Denver is going to get from the Knicks is a trade exception, some second round pick and some scrub. And that's why Denver will wait for the trade deadline, cause trade exceptions have 1 year limit, and it's best have a trade exception expiring at the trade deadline then at the start of the season.



[QUOTE]
The Knicks have fielded calls from several Western Conference clubs regarding a deal for Randolph, according to a team source. The most compelling conversations have been with the Houston Rockets, who in one scenario would trade the Knicks the first-round pick they obtained in last year

[alanLA92]

I see when the knicks get a winning streak for a change thats when Melo decides he wants to go to NY and NY only lol

[knickscity]

I see when the knicks get a winning streak for a change thats when Melo decides he wants to go to NY and NY only lol
Well at least winning is a good way to make the players more appealing to Denver.

Walsh should be working the phones right now and get it done.

But I haven't heard Melo actually say it, so screw the reports except a confirmed trade.

[alanLA92]

Well at least winning is a good way to make the players more appealing to Denver.

Walsh should be working the phones right now and get it done.

But I haven't heard Melo actually say it, so screw the reports except a confirmed trade.

I know. Melo wanted to go to NY prior to the surpise start so it isn't exactly the streak that has interested Melo in the first place

[Blue&Orange]

It is common sense that a team is going to have to give up a lot maybe even overpay to get him, especially a team where he says that is the only one he is going to go to.
Yes it's really common sense overpay for a player that it is about to be free agent that says he wants to play for you and you can get him for nothing.

Nuggets may get gallo or chandler now on a trade, because Knicks can only keep one after a hypothetic signing of Mello as a FA. Denver can demand all they want, they will get either nothing or what the Knicks want to give.

There are no appealing teams for Mello that are under the cap, so who's gonna steal Mello? A contending team would have to match salaries, and either would gut the team to get Mello or Denver would had to accept a bunch of scrubs, making it a worse trade then what they could get from the Knicks right now.

[NuggetsFan]

Well atleast there's a source now. I'm going to be interested to see what's said AFTER everything goes down. Weather or not it was 100% the Knicks all along. I knew they were most likely the favorite obviously but I've truly believed there's a few teams that really had a good shot. Not looking like the Favors deal has much chance anymore. Could end up making Denver look stupid for getting cold feet earlier in the year regarding trading him.

Denver need's to completely blow it up. Try and get Gallo. Move Billups. Whatever else you can.

[Rowe]

Well atleast there's a source now. I'm going to be interested to see what's said AFTER everything goes down. Weather or not it was 100% the Knicks all along. I knew they were most likely the favorite obviously but I've truly believed there's a few teams that really had a good shot. Not looking like the Favors deal has much chance anymore. Could end up making Denver look stupid for getting cold feet earlier in the year regarding trading him.

Denver need's to completely blow it up. Try and get Gallo. Move Billups. Whatever else you can.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:



You have had your head in the sand for months now saying all of this is unsubstantiated rumors and Melo wasn't going anywhere. I cant help but laugh at you for being in denial.

[Rowe]

Not yet. Mayo is on the block pretty much. The Grizzlies made a statement saying he wasn't like 1-2 weeks ago, but all indications from Mayo's inner circle is he is and could be deal very soon, as early as next week and likely to the Knicks. Again, it doesn't surprise me because if you remember Walsh really wanted to get O.J. Mayo during the 2008 draft, he was very close to try to trade up for him, and raved about his workout he saw with them. Now that Mayo's value is at a low since he went to the bench, Walsh is ready to try to buy low, so let's see what happens between now and the deadline.


You saw my thread in the Knicks forum.

:oldlol:

Your avy is the pic I posted, and I posted the direct link regarding Walsh being interested in Mayo before the 08' Draft.

[Stuckey]

why would the Knicks offer any decent players now that Melo stated he will be joining the Knicks in the near future

[knickscity]

why would the Knicks offer any decent players now that Melo stated he will be joining the Knicks in the near future
I don't see them doing it either.

Not right now anyway.

Wait and see how they do during this so-called "test stretch".

Then deal if there is a glaring need.

[gts]

i think this is bluff from the melo camp, if i'm denver i don't bite...

keep working on trades that make sense for you don't take on contracts just to get something for melo... work with other teams and then give melo the option of signing the extension or not... the new cba is coming there may be a lockout melo would be a fool to go into this summer without at least 4 years of old style contract in his pocket...

if there was no looming lockout with a new cba (that if reports are correct it will be drastically different) i think the circumstances would be different but they are what they are and melo could be caught out big time...

[bagelred]

why would the Knicks offer any decent players now that Melo stated he will be joining the Knicks in the near future

Are you kidding? You don't like Curry, Walker, and Mason for Melo? That's THREE FOR ONE. Three decent players right there.

[Pokerface]

why would the Knicks offer any decent players now that Melo stated he will be joining the Knicks in the near future

Using similar logic, why would the Nuggets trade Melo now for Knicks retreads when they can wait until the summer, and if Melo walks, they will have his annual salary of around $18 million then, along with KMarts expiring salary of around $17 million, to sign players who want to play for the Nuggets.

There most certainly will be players better than Curry and Randolph available to the Nuggets for that kind of money.

IMO, there is no reason for the Nuggets to panic. If Melo wants to take a chance that the new CBA will pay him as much money as the Nuggets are offering him now, it seems to me that he could wind up being the biggest loser.

Using the same logic as the quote, the Nuggets could sign Chandler next Summer because the Knicks probably will not be able to afford Melo, Stoudemire, Chandler, Galinari, Felton, Randolph, and the other players, and stay under the new salary cap.

So, who will blink first??

[SavageMode]

Are you kidding? You don't like Curry, Walker, and Mason for Melo? That's THREE FOR ONE. Three decent players right there.
3 scrubs.... But I would take anything if I were Denver at this point.

[Blue&Orange]

along with KMarts expiring salary of around $17 million, to sign players who want to play for the Nuggets.
Kmart is the key, because if he wasn't a expirer, Denver could lose Melo and still be over the cap. Knicks can give a 16$ million trade exception that the Nuggets can use even when over the cap, that plus gallo or Chandler, is more then enough and fair for an soon to be FA.

[Pokerface]

Kmart is the key, because if he wasn't a expirer, Denver could lose Melo and still be over the cap. Knicks can give a 16$ million trade exception that the Nuggets can use even when over the cap, that plus gallo or Chandler, is more then enough and fair for an soon to be FA.


Also, if you read the statement by Sheridan closely, Melo didn't say he would not re-sign with the Nuggets, he said IF the Nuggets traded him, he would sign the extension only with the Knicks," according to the article in ESPN. Although he has not signed the extension offered by the Nuggets, so far, he has not said that he will not do so. When push comes to shove, he just might do so rather than lose $20 million plus if the new CBA lowers the salaries for future contracts.

[EarlTheGoat]

Trade his overrated ass and to cleveland or charlotte...F*ck Melo...Overrated chucker than dont play defense.

Lol JK, still my favorite player. But Masai needs to trade him. He clearly does not want to be in Denver, send him to New Jersey . Favors is a stud!


Despite your joking and your white text, what you said is actually true.

[tpols]

This is something most of us already knew. Not sure what's so hard to believe about Melo not wanting to play for the Nets. Shitty city. Shitty franchise. Shitty team.
LOL the knicks are in the best city in the country and they've been pathetic for 95% of their history. Whats it been 40 years since your last ring? The nets have been the better team this decade by a mile.

[knickscity]

Using similar logic, why would the Nuggets trade Melo now for Knicks retreads when they can wait until the summer, and if Melo walks, they will have his annual salary of around $18 million then, along with KMarts expiring salary of around $17 million, to sign players who want to play for the Nuggets.

There most certainly will be players better than Curry and Randolph available to the Nuggets for that kind of money.


They won't have 35 mil in cap space. They over the cap, so that won't be availble, not all of it anyways.

Chauncey, Nene, Al, Birdman makes up 35 mil of salary on together.

[Borat]

Unless Nuggets get draft picks I'd let the bastard walk.

[MeLO MvP 15]

They won't have 35 mil in cap space. They over the cap, so that won't be availble, not all of it anyways.

Chauncey, Nene, Al, Birdman makes up 35 mil of salary on together.
Billups can and most likely will be bought out for 3 mil and Nene has a player option (which he prob won't opt out of). So we could potentially have only 10-25 mil committed of salary cap.

[crounsa810]

I hope Melo becomes a McGrady type player. Consistently injured and never. winning. SHIT.
Such a ****ing loser. I think that if a player comes out and says shit lke "I'll only go here and here only" that they should 1. be fined a large amount, and 2. have their contract voided on the spot and throw a provision that they cannot resign with ANY team for a year. The league needs to get these gangsta ****ers to learn how to shut their ****ing mouth and suck it up. You don't wanna be on your team? Fine. Don't go out parading around saying "Nahhh I will only go here. I don't wanna be here. I only wanna be here!" hurting the chances of your team getting anything back for you that is worth anything.

Fine, void, and suspend. That'll teach them to shut the **** up

[Pokerface]

3 scrubs.... But I would take anything if I were Denver at this point.

In Sheridan's latest tweet on ESPN NBA, he mentioned the possibility of a lockout. If the Players' union and the owners cannot agree to a new CBA and there is a lockout in 2011, that changes everything and there are no guarantees of what will happen, then Melo can be left in limbo, while things shake out. During that time, he has no contract and thus no money coming in to pay him or his agents, although it is unlikely that Melo has spent his money unwisely and will be without financial resources during that time.

But that is one helluva risk he and his agents are facing by not signing a guaranteed extension now. Melo is not known for taking such risks, but time will tell.

It seems to me that the Knicks are also taking a risk by not trying to offer a good trade for him now, and waiting to see what may happen next summer.

To me, it looks like the Nuggets are in the driver's seat since they can wait it out the worse thing that can happen to them is that Melo walks and leaves them with $18 to $20 million to offer to someone else once the dust settles and a new CBA is in place. Denver is a great sports town and I bet there are a few players who will jump at the chance to go there.

[NuggetsFan]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:



You have had your head in the sand for months now saying all of this is unsubstantiated rumors and Melo wasn't going anywhere. I cant help but laugh at you for being in denial.

Best part is nobody could use any logic to debunk it. I never ONCE said NJ was the favorite. I said it was possible. I used the logic that NJ would have had it 100% known before any talks advanced that Melo would sign the extension. Denver was the team who backed out and it was reported by everyone that it was the case. Everybody knew Denver wanted to try and sway him and that's why they never traded him before the season started. As for being in denial? Maybe for the first few months. Since like 2 weeks before the season I said Melo was gondy and to be honest I don't really care all that much anymore, he's playing awful.

I even stated NY was the favorite, I just implied there was other teams in the race. Mainly NJ. As of now looking like I'm wrong, we'll see. I'm really curious to what is said afterwards, if Melo implies it's only NY after it all goes down. In that case I really truly eat my word. Still think other teams had\have a shot tho.

[Pokerface]

They won't have 35 mil in cap space. They over the cap, so that won't be availble, not all of it anyways.

Chauncey, Nene, Al, Birdman makes up 35 mil of salary on together.


You are right, they won't have $35 million in cap space, but, they wil be no worse off then they are now. If their owner wants to pay the same amount that they are now, then they will have the $35 million to pay someone else, albeit they will be over the cap and will have to pay whatever penalty will be in place after the new CBA.

[crounsa810]

it is unlikely that Melo has spent his money unwisely and will be without financial resources during that time.
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I :roll: :lol

[New York Knicks]

LOL the knicks are in the best city in the country and they've been pathetic for 95% of their history. Whats it been 40 years since your last ring? The nets have been the better team this decade by a mile.
How many titles do the Nets have? Zero?

[Darius]

I think Melo is bluffing.

NBA players always go for the money. He won't risk going into the new CBA without a contract in place. He'll risking possibly 10s of millions of guaranteed dollars.

[Scoooter]

In Sheridan's latest tweet on ESPN NBA, he mentioned the possibility of a lockout. If the Players' union and the owners cannot agree to a new CBA and there is a lockout in 2011, that changes everything and there are no guarantees of what will happen, then Melo can be left in limbo, while things shake out. During that time, he has no contract and thus no money coming in to pay him or his agents, although it is unlikely that Melo has spent his money unwisely and will be without financial resources during that time.

But that is one helluva risk he and his agents are facing by not signing a guaranteed extension now. Melo is not known for taking such risks, but time will tell.

It seems to me that the Knicks are also taking a risk by not trying to offer a good trade for him now, and waiting to see what may happen next summer.

To me, it looks like the Nuggets are in the driver's seat since they can wait it out the worse thing that can happen to them is that Melo walks and leaves them with $18 to $20 million to offer to someone else once the dust settles and a new CBA is in place. Denver is a great sports town and I bet there are a few players who will jump at the chance to go there.
You seem to be arguing from the position that the Nuggets don't want to keep Melo. Is this a recent development? Otherwise, given all that I've heard, the Knicks (and Melo) hold all the leverage. We'll see the degree to which they panic in pursuit of yet another scorer.

[Sarcastic]

How many titles do the Nets have? Zero?

They won 2 titles in the ABA, when they played in, of all places, NEW YORK!!! :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Thanks for giving NY titles in that league.

[gts]

In Sheridan's latest tweet on ESPN NBA, he mentioned the possibility of a lockout. If the Players' union and the owners cannot agree to a new CBA and there is a lockout in 2011, that changes everything and there are no guarantees of what will happen, then Melo can be left in limbo, while things shake out. During that time, he has no contract and thus no money coming in to pay him or his agents, although it is unlikely that Melo has spent his money unwisely and will be without financial resources during that time.

But that is one helluva risk he and his agents are facing by not signing a guaranteed extension now. Melo is not known for taking such risks, but time will tell.

It seems to me that the Knicks are also taking a risk by not trying to offer a good trade for him now, and waiting to see what may happen next summer.

To me, it looks like the Nuggets are in the driver's seat since they can wait it out the worse thing that can happen to them is that Melo walks and leaves them with $18 to $20 million to offer to someone else once the dust settles and a new CBA is in place. Denver is a great sports town and I bet there are a few players who will jump at the chance to go there.good post only thing i'd correct is if there is a lockout, even players with contracts will not be paid... there's a theory out there that's one of the reasons we saw some big contracts being paid out this summer, owners are certain that on a 4 year deal they'll only be on the hook for say 3.5 years worth of it...

they'll (the owners) suffer lost revenue with a lockout but that's different than losing money, a little money will still be coming in from advanced ticket sales, jersey sales and mechandise sold...

[Nets fan 93]

And Nets fans get out the rope and chair.
Nah, being bad isnt always a bad thing. I mean I wouldnt expect to win a championship anyway. Though the East is weak the contenders in Maimi, Boston, and Orlando are going to be tough to go up against. Some teams actually get draft picks when they are bad. *cough*unlike the knicks *coughs*

[NewYorkNoPicks]

LOL the knicks are in the best city in the country and they've been pathetic for 95% of their history. Whats it been 40 years since your last ring? The nets have been the better team this decade by a mile.

Nets were relevant for what....4 years?


Knicks dominated the 70s and 90s. Don't forget how we bitchslapped NJ throughout the entire 90s.

And 2 titles > 0 titles

[Pokerface]

good post only thing i'd correct is if there is a lockout, even players with contracts will not be paid... there's a theory out there that's one of the reasons we saw some big contracts being paid out this summer, owners are certain that on a 4 year deal they'll only be on the hook for say 3.5 years worth of it...

they'll (the owners) suffer lost revenue with a lockout but that's different than losing money, a little money will still be coming in from advanced ticket sales, jersey sales and mechandise sold...

Good point, I overlooked that.

[New York Knicks]

Nah, being bad isnt always a bad thing. I mean I wouldnt expect to win a championship anyway. Though the East is weak the contenders in Maimi, Boston, and Orlando are going to be tough to go up against. Some teams actually get draft picks when they are bad. *cough*unlike the knicks *coughs*
What good are all your draft picks if you keep finishing in last place no matter who you draft? You think Lopez will want to stick around winning 20 games a season?

[shafir]

New York Knicks...stfu

Us Knicks have been bad for the past decade, and the one time we get a good team, you think it's okay to piss on others? Put your dick away kid

[New York Knicks]

New York Knicks...stfu

Us Knicks have been bad for the past decade, and the one time we get a good team, you think it's okay to piss on others? Put your dick away kid
Do we know you? Get lost. Grown ups are talking.

[shafir]

Do we know you? Get lost. Grown ups are talking.
Really? :oldlol: It's against my policy to respond past once or twice to red bars/trolls, so good night buddy :]

[New York Knicks]

Really? :oldlol: It's against my policy to respond to red bars/trolls, so good night buddy
Sounds like a response to me.

[InspiredLebowski]

Melo does not have no trade clause. Jersey has (from reports) the best offer. Welcome to Jersey.

I sincerely don't believe he wouldn't sign an extension. There's no doubt max deals are going to be cut. He'd be leaving what, 15 mil on the table when he'd be in NYC shortly with the Nets anyway?

[New York Knicks]

Melo has no trade clause. Jersey has (from reports) the best offer. Welcome to Jersey.

I sincerely don't believe he wouldn't sign an extension. There's no doubt max deals are going to be cut. He'd be leaving what, 15 mil on the table when he'd be in NYC shortly with the Nets anyway?
NJ won't be agreeing to a trade unless there's a guarantee Melo will resign. NJ's offer has been on the table for months and the Nuggets have been itching to take it but can't because Melo doesn't wanna extend his deal there.

[InspiredLebowski]

Then call his bluff. That's all it is, there's no chance he wouldn't sign it. In my opinion of course.

[New York Knicks]

Then call his bluff. That's all it is, there's no chance he wouldn't sign it. In my opinion of course.
So you want them to be like Cleveland and end up with nothing? That's what they're trying to avoid. They either trade him to where he wants to go now to get SOMETHING no matter how small or let him walk. But I'm with you. I hope they do call his bluff and let him walk so we can get him without trading anybody.

Edit: What do you mean by calling his bluff? You mean Denver should call his bluff by letting him walk or NJ should call his bluff by making the trade for him without a guarantee he'd be resigning?

[InspiredLebowski]

I'm not talking about Denver, I'm talking about the Nets calling his bluff. Denver should take the best package they can get period.

[New York Knicks]

I'm not talking about Denver, I'm talking about the Nets calling his bluff. Denver should take the best package they can get period.
LOL. That's asking a lot of NJ. And no way they call his bluff. That's crazy. You want them to move Favors/expirer and two 1st rounders for what's likely gonna be a half-season rental of Melo. No GM would make that deal.

[InspiredLebowski]

I would. It won't be a rental. We'll probably never find out since the inmates run the asylum but I really do think he'd sign it in Jersey. He'd still be in NYC and like $15 million richer.

[Sarcastic]

Jersey is not giving up Favors without his signature on the dotted line.

[Scoooter]

Favors/Lopez could be one hell of a frontcourt in a couple years. I'm not sure I'd be so eager to do that deal.

[New York Knicks]

I would. It won't be a rental. We'll probably never find out since the inmates run the asylum but I really do think he'd sign it in Jersey. He'd still be in NYC and like $15 million richer.
Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. But that's insane to mortgage your future on that. You're talking about an all-or-nothing scenario for a player that's not even Top 5. I don't even think he's in the Top 10 on most people's lists. And the "paycut" people talk about when signing as a FA is way overblown. He'd be missing that last year. That's only relevant if he somehow regresses as a player or gets injured cause more likely than not, he'll be signing an extension when that next deal is up. The real question mark is the new CBA cause nobody's sure of what it'll look like.

[InspiredLebowski]

The extension with the new CBA's what I'm talking about. There's no doubt in my mind if he hit the open market by then a max contract will be less, if he extends this year with whomever his salary'd be more than it ever could as a FA. Then after the extension sign whatever the new max is.

[Patrick Chewing]

Nets were relevant for what....4 years?


Knicks dominated the 70s and 90s. Don't forget how we bitchslapped NJ throughout the entire 90s.

And 2 titles > 0 titles

owned

[ALBballer]

Great news if true. It would only give the knicks even more leverage.

:D

[niko]

The extension with the new CBA's what I'm talking about. There's no doubt in my mind if he hit the open market by then a max contract will be less, if he extends this year with whomever his salary'd be more than it ever could as a FA. Then after the extension sign whatever the new max is.
I disagree with you here. I don't think he signs there unless the CBA is just so awful that he can't get paid elsewhere. WHy would you? Net fans always argue, but they aren't nearly as good a team, they'd have to gut their team to get him, and he'd be stuck in Newark in front of that apathetic fanbase. The BRooklyn arena is being built in what seems likes slow motion if you go by it, which makes me wonder if it could push back another year. You don't think Melo would try the market? (He wouldn't need to go to the Knicks, maybe something else pops up that looks as good to.) ANd even if the chance is small he does not resign (which i disagree with) it would be the apocalypse, losing one of your few building blocks for a rental.


If Melo doesn't sign upon a trade you can't do it. You can't (as a GM) risk your franchise like that.

[NuggetsFan]

.


If Melo doesn't sign upon a trade you can't do it. You can't (as a GM) risk your franchise like that.


Jersey is not giving up Favors without his signature on the dotted line.

Exactly what I've been saying. So how did the trade talks get so advanced? Was NJ actually stupid enough to wait until they got 2 other teams, things got serious before asking about the extension?. Denver was the reported team who backed out and could end up biting them in the ass. Maybe Melo got cold feet too. Either way SOMETHING had to be there for things to advance. NJ leaving there offer on the table kinda makes it seem like it wasn't Melo who squashed it or else why would they even bother. I don't know. Everything says that NJ has a shot but I could end up looking like a dumby. Maybe I'm giving GM's too much credit and there was 4 teams ready to pull a deal without even checking into the most important aspect of the trade, weather or not Melo would sign.

I agree with you Inspired. Melo's going to sign the extension. Just to risky for him not to do it. If I was Denver I'd try to put him in a corner. Try to come to an agreement but if you can't don't give him the extension and let him walk and lose all that money. If NY won't give up Gallo .. I'll be PISSED if Denver gives Melo the extension and let's him go to NY.

I just want Melo gone and for something to happen at this point. Denver has some leverage here. With the CBA and what not. Injury risk with his knee. Maybe Melo truly doesn't give a **** about the money, but hard to believe he doesn't want that security.

[ginobli2311]

I disagree with you here. I don't think he signs there unless the CBA is just so awful that he can't get paid elsewhere. WHy would you? Net fans always argue, but they aren't nearly as good a team, they'd have to gut their team to get him, and he'd be stuck in Newark in front of that apathetic fanbase. The BRooklyn arena is being built in what seems likes slow motion if you go by it, which makes me wonder if it could push back another year. You don't think Melo would try the market? (He wouldn't need to go to the Knicks, maybe something else pops up that looks as good to.) ANd even if the chance is small he does not resign (which i disagree with) it would be the apocalypse, losing one of your few building blocks for a rental.


If Melo doesn't sign upon a trade you can't do it. You can't (as a GM) risk your franchise like that.

yep. nothing to really talk about here for the nuggets now. they can either trade him to the knicks or just pray that melo resigns with them thats really it. i don't know why they wouldn't just clean house and start over. they have a ton of chips to deal. it sucks, but that is their reality now. melo does not want to be there and they might as well get as much as they can from the knicks...and they should do it soon.

no point in waiting because the nuggets have no leverage. the knicks know they are the only trade destination so the deal already got worse in the last 12 hours since the announcement. i don't see any reason to just let melo leave, but teams seem to make dumb mistakes all the time anyway. it really sucks, but the nuggets really have to start over now.

[niko]

Exactly what I've been saying. So how did the trade talks get so advanced? Was NJ actually stupid enough to wait until they got 2 other teams, things got serious before asking about the extension?. Denver was the reported team who backed out and could end up biting them in the ass. Maybe Melo got cold feet too. Either way SOMETHING had to be there for things to advance. NJ leaving there offer on the table kinda makes it seem like it wasn't Melo who squashed it or else why would they even bother. I don't know. Everything says that NJ has a shot but I could end up looking like a dumby. Maybe I'm giving GM's too much credit and there was 4 teams ready to pull a deal without even checking into the most important aspect of the trade, weather or not Melo would sign.

I agree with you Inspired. Melo's going to sign the extension. Just to risky for him not to do it. If I was Denver I'd try to put him in a corner. Try to come to an agreement but if you can't don't give him the extension and let him walk and lose all that money. If NY won't give up Gallo .. I'll be PISSED if Denver gives Melo the extension and let's him go to NY.

I just want Melo gone and for something to happen at this point. Denver has some leverage here. With the CBA and what not. Injury risk with his knee. Maybe Melo truly doesn't give a **** about the money, but hard to believe he doesn't want that security.

People are going to tell me WHAT A STUPID ANALOGY but basically it's to me like when you invite the super gorgeous girl out and she says SURE IM COMING and when you talk to her during the week she says SURE IM COMING and she cancels like an hour after she was supposed to meet you.

Carmelo's agent was trying to drive up leverage, interest so he kept saying SURE MELO WILL GO TO JERSEY, SURE, SURE and when the deal was close he said in essence "Melo might be late" and everyone got cold feet.

[niko]

BTW, i think Knick fans miss this but Melo is trying to get the Knicks leverage to acquire him, not asking them to wait until FA and sign him so the team benefits the most. The knicks saying FU Nuggets, we got him is not a slap at the nuggets as much as a slap at Melo. THey need to get the phones working and get this done now, albeit at a lower price than we would have otherwise.

(I also think Knick fans on this board miss tis because some of the "knick fans" are not fans of us at all but just a bunch of trolls pickign the hot team to use.)

[ginobli2311]

BTW, i think Knick fans miss this but Melo is trying to get the Knicks leverage to acquire him, not asking them to wait until FA and sign him so the team benefits the most. The knicks saying FU Nuggets, we got him is not a slap at the nuggets as much as a slap at Melo. THey need to get the phones working and get this done now, albeit at a lower price than we would have otherwise.

(I also think Knick fans on this board miss tis because some of the "knick fans" are not fans of us at all but just a bunch of trolls pickign the hot team to use.)

right. this was a calculated move from melo to try and make the deal even better for the knicks. now the knicks can say:

"hey nuggets, we know we are the only team that melo is willing to come to...so you can either trade him to us and get some stuff back or you can watch him leave in the offseason and get nothing for him"

its a great move by melo and his agent. unless there is some retarded GM out there that is going to trade for melo without the signed extension. maybe there is. who knows.

[Sarcastic]

Exactly what I've been saying. So how did the trade talks get so advanced? Was NJ actually stupid enough to wait until they got 2 other teams, things got serious before asking about the extension?. Denver was the reported team who backed out and could end up biting them in the ass. Maybe Melo got cold feet too. Either way SOMETHING had to be there for things to advance. NJ leaving there offer on the table kinda makes it seem like it wasn't Melo who squashed it or else why would they even bother. I don't know. Everything says that NJ has a shot but I could end up looking like a dumby. Maybe I'm giving GM's too much credit and there was 4 teams ready to pull a deal without even checking into the most important aspect of the trade, weather or not Melo would sign.

I agree with you Inspired. Melo's going to sign the extension. Just to risky for him not to do it. If I was Denver I'd try to put him in a corner. Try to come to an agreement but if you can't don't give him the extension and let him walk and lose all that money. If NY won't give up Gallo .. I'll be PISSED if Denver gives Melo the extension and let's him go to NY.

I just want Melo gone and for something to happen at this point. Denver has some leverage here. With the CBA and what not. Injury risk with his knee. Maybe Melo truly doesn't give a **** about the money, but hard to believe he doesn't want that security.

NJ never had a shot. If Melo wanted to be a Net, he would be a Net by now.

[NuggetsFan]

NJ never had a shot. If Melo wanted to be a Net, he would be a Net by now.

If they never had a shot, how do they advance a deal that get's 2 other teams involved? And who knows what happens if Denver doesn't back out and bring Melo to camp. I'll never believe NJ didn't have a shot based on the fact that they almost struck up a deal and it was infact Denver who was reported as the team who backed out. Not looking like they have much of a shot anymore tho.

Niko you might be right. Could all just be tactics between Melo and his agent. Either way was a smart move. Maybe Melo did squash the NJ deal, but if he did his camp is GREAT and keeping it quiet. You know what? Could all just be to get NY to drive up there offer. Melo\NJ has logic and had weight to it. Maybe that's what they wanted people to think.

[niko]

NJ never had a shot. If Melo wanted to be a Net, he would be a Net by now.
I keep gettnig shit for this, but why would he want to be a Net? I hear future and potential but why would Melo want to be the face of the Nets for two years in Newark and be counted on to be the engine pulling the train when he could go to the Knicks which at the moment are a better team and remain in NY, not Newark. It makes no sense that he'd want to come there unless he feels he has no leverage.

(Let me add, why would he want to be a net NOW? in 2 years, in Brooklyn, with new players, etc. with the young players grown up, i get it. Why would he want to be a Net now with the Knicks pursuing him also?)

[NuggetsFan]

"hey nuggets, we know we are the only team that melo is willing to come to...so you can either trade him to us and get some stuff back or you can watch him leave in the offseason and get nothing for him"


And if NY isn't willing to pony up pieces that are actually half decent than Denver can say "hey Melo have fun losing some money, better hope the CBA doesn't change to much". It's in Melo's best interest to sign the extension. Not that hard to grasp. Therefore giving Denver some leverage. Maybe Chicago gives up Taj Gibson and some picks and Melo is ok with going there. He'll want to sign the extension, he just doesn't want to play in Denver and clearly favors NY.

[NuggetsFan]

I keep gettnig shit for this, but why would he want to be a Net? I hear future and potential but why would Melo want to be the face of the Nets for two years in Newark and be counted on to be the engine pulling the train when he could go to the Knicks which at the moment are a better team and remain in NY, not Newark. It makes no sense that he'd want to come there unless he feels he has no leverage.

(Let me add, why would he want to be a net NOW? in 2 years, in Brooklyn, with new players, etc. with the young players grown up, i get it. Why would he want to be a Net now with the Knicks pursuing him also?)

I just kinda got the idea that Melo didn't really have a clue. That's why I don't believe he backed out of the Net's deal because he truly was unsure. Seems like as the season progresses he's getting more of an idea(now NY seems like the even bigger favorite).

Why does he want to leave Denver? Start of his career we had talent around. It was him choking in the playoffs. Denver's situation isn't that bad. AA\Lawson look promising. Nene is still young. Guy's like K-Mart\Billups\J.R can all come off the books. Denver's shown that they'll make the moves\spend the money to win.

[Sarcastic]

If they never had a shot, how do they advance a deal that get's 2 other teams involved? And who knows what happens if Denver doesn't back out and bring Melo to camp. I'll never believe NJ didn't have a shot based on the fact that they almost struck up a deal and it was infact Denver who was reported as the team who backed out. Not looking like they have much of a shot anymore tho.

Niko you might be right. Could all just be tactics between Melo and his agent. Either way was a smart move. Maybe Melo did squash the NJ deal, but if he did his camp is GREAT and keeping it quiet. You know what? Could all just be to get NY to drive up there offer. Melo\NJ has logic and had weight to it. Maybe that's what they wanted people to think.

If it really advanced that far, why did it not happen? It obviously didn't advance as far as you think.

[ginobli2311]

And if NY isn't willing to pony up pieces that are actually half decent than Denver can say "hey Melo have fun losing some money, better hope the CBA doesn't change to much". It's in Melo's best interest to sign the extension. Not that hard to grasp. Therefore giving Denver some leverage. Maybe Chicago gives up Taj Gibson and some picks and Melo is ok with going there. He'll want to sign the extension, he just doesn't want to play in Denver and clearly favors NY.

unless the nba just goes away. melo going to new york would make him more money in the long run regardless. that is my point. lets say melo can only get 50 million for 3 years instead of 65. who cares? he'll sign with the knicks and make that back and more just for being in NY and being on a team that would be contending for the next 5 plus years.

Trust me. Melo would put a ton of extra money in his pocket going from denver to new york.

[Knicksfever2010]

unless the nba just goes away. melo going to new york would make him more money in the long run regardless. that is my point. lets say melo can only get 50 million for 3 years instead of 65. who cares? he'll sign with the knicks and make that back and more just for being in NY and being on a team that would be contending for the next 5 plus years.

Trust me. Melo would put a ton of extra money in his pocket going from denver to new york.

the only thing is ny has INSANE taxes, i used to work in the city and every pay check, i would ask, 'wait wheres my money'?

[Sarcastic]

Let's not forget his wife would rather he play in NY too.

[NuggetsFan]

If it really advanced that far, why did it not happen? It obviously didn't advance as far as you think.

Denver had reportedly backed out. He had been away from the team\Karl all summer and they wanted to try and change his mind. Makes a ton of sense considering. I don't know. It was reported on ESPN. 2 other teams involved. Closest team to a deal so far.


unless the nba just goes away. melo going to new york would make him more money in the long run regardless. that is my point. lets say melo can only get 50 million for 3 years instead of 65. who cares? he'll sign with the knicks and make that back and more just for being in NY and being on a team that would be contending for the next 5 plus years

Who knows what happens with the CBA. Max contracts could change. Ya I'm sure it'll be good for him in New York. LOL at you acting like 15 min who cares :oldlol: . Guy is in the prime of his career. 15 million is a huge difference. NY is contending for 5 plus years? Kinda ballsy statement right there. 5 years is a big prediction to say we haven't even seen them on the court together. And nobody has a clue what the league will be like 5 years from now ..

Not to mention injury risk. It's in Melo's best interest to sign the extension. Not really arguable man. Maybe it's not as important as him playing in New York who knows, but at the end of the day I'm sure he and his agent want the extension signed. Preferably in NY looking like.

[Samurai Swoosh]

I just kinda got the idea that Melo didn't really have a clue. That's why I don't believe he backed out of the Net's deal because he truly was unsure. Seems like as the season progresses he's getting more of an idea(now NY seems like the even bigger favorite).

Why does he want to leave Denver? Start of his career we had talent around. It was him choking in the playoffs. Denver's situation isn't that bad. AA\Lawson look promising. Nene is still young. Guy's like K-Mart\Billups\J.R can all come off the books. Denver's shown that they'll make the moves\spend the money to win.
Maybe he just wants a change of scenery to rejuivinate his career. He's an east coast guy, his wife wants to be in NYC, and he's probably bored with Denver.

Plus, I don't think Denver's winning basketball games situation is even as appealing as NYC.

[NuggetsFan]

Let's not forget his wife would rather he play in NY too.

Ya I got the impression she's pushing for L.A\NY big time.

[Sarcastic]

Denver had reportedly backed out. He had been away from the team\Karl all summer and they wanted to try and change his mind. Makes a ton of sense considering. I don't know. It was reported on ESPN. 2 other teams involved. Closest team to a deal so far.



Who knows what happens with the CBA. Max contracts could change. Ya I'm sure it'll be good for him in New York. LOL at you acting like 15 min who cares :oldlol: . Guy is in the prime of his career. 15 million is a huge difference. NY is contending for 5 plus years? Kinda ballsy statement right there. 5 years is a big prediction to say we haven't even seen them on the court together. And nobody has a clue what the league will be like 5 years from now ..

Not to mention injury risk. It's in Melo's best interest to sign the extension. Not really arguable man. Maybe it's not as important as him playing in New York who knows, but at the end of the day I'm sure he and his agent want the extension signed. Preferably in NY looking like.


Well then whoever's decision it was to not do the deal should be fired instantaneously. Was it the GM who got the cold feet? Whoever it was just lost the best deal they could have gotten for their franchise player. Now they are going to lose that player, and get crap for him.

[Steve212]

I dn't want Melo. I rather have OJ Mayo.

[NuggetsFan]

Well then whoever's decision it was to not do the deal should be fired instantaneously. Was it the GM who got the cold feet? Whoever it was just lost the best deal they could have gotten for their franchise player. Now they are going to lose that player, and get crap for him.

I don't know, just relaying what I read. That's why NJ has reportedly kept there offer on the table.


"Everyone is waiting on Denver, not Melo [committing to an extension]," one source close to the trade talks told ESPN.com's Chris Sheridan.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=5618346

Here's one article. Like I said was reported that Denver was holding things up for everyone. Gotta remember after the LeBron stuff I'm sure Denver thought Melo just wanted some attention and sitting in the back behind the '10 free agent class. Wedding with Paul etc.

[bagelred]

I read that D'Antoni is not a Melo guy, but Walsh is. So there could be hesitation. MDA really likes the makeup of the team now.

And I sort of agree. Melo is a phenomenal talent, but he's a ball stopper, and he's weak defensively.

I like what's going on now. I like Chandler, Gallo, and Fields who all have multiple skill sets and getting better. Wilson is a great two way player. Fields does everything.

It's like I'm going to be forced to become a Melo fan even though I've thought of this guy as a thug the last 7 years. Oh well........

[Sarcastic]

I read that D'Antoni is not a Melo guy, but Walsh is. So there could be hesitation. MDA really likes the makeup of the team now.

And I sort of agree. Melo is a phenomenal talent, but he's a ball stopper, and he's weak defensively.

I like what's going on now. I like Chandler, Gallo, and Fields who all have multiple skill sets and getting better. Wilson is a great two way player. Fields does everything.

It's like I'm going to be forced to become a Melo fan even though I've thought of this guy as a thug the last 7 years. Oh well........


Well he better become a "Melo guy" real quick, otherwise he can go coach somewhere else.

[ginobli2311]

Denver had reportedly backed out. He had been away from the team\Karl all summer and they wanted to try and change his mind. Makes a ton of sense considering. I don't know. It was reported on ESPN. 2 other teams involved. Closest team to a deal so far.



Who knows what happens with the CBA. Max contracts could change. Ya I'm sure it'll be good for him in New York. LOL at you acting like 15 min who cares :oldlol: . Guy is in the prime of his career. 15 million is a huge difference. NY is contending for 5 plus years? Kinda ballsy statement right there. 5 years is a big prediction to say we haven't even seen them on the court together. And nobody has a clue what the league will be like 5 years from now ..

Not to mention injury risk. It's in Melo's best interest to sign the extension. Not really arguable man. Maybe it's not as important as him playing in New York who knows, but at the end of the day I'm sure he and his agent want the extension signed. Preferably in NY looking like.


of course they want the extension signed. its why they are pressuring the nuggets so hard right now right before december 15th. i'm just saying that if money is what really matters to melo. he can easily make back anything he potentially loses out on by going to a big market. don't forget that he can also sign a long term deal (6 years) on the open market that would give him much more certainty than a 3 year extension.

i'm not laughing at 15 mil. i was just saying that melo really doesn't stand to lose much if he doesn't sign the extension. he could go to a big market and get 6 years guaranteed rather than 3. the nuggets are the ones with the most to lose in my opinion. they could get quite a bit for melo right now and that would really help them in the rebuilding process. if they get nothing.....good luck selling tickets to watch that team next year.

[gts]

of course they want the extension signed. its why they are pressuring the nuggets so hard right now right before december 15th.what happens on the 15th?

[ginobli2311]

what happens on the 15th?

isn't that when all players become eligible for trades that signed deals in the offseason. correct me if i'm wrong though.

[bagelred]

what happens on the 15th?

December 15th is the date the signed summer free agents become tradeable. So opens up more trade options and hence, you'll start to see trades go down.

[gts]

isn't that when all players become eligible for trades that signed deals in the offseason. correct me if i'm wrong though.somewhere in there, i was looking at the master calendar and it didn't show anything in december that's why i was asking


trade dealdline is febuary 24th, last day to sign an extension is june 30th...
on january 5th 10 day contracts can be offered, on january 10th all contracts become guaranteed


http://www.nba.com/mastercalendar/masterCalendar.html

[necya]

Felton-Mayo-Melo-Amare is so scary... damn that team can score with anyone... also it leaves the door open for a CP3 deal (something around Felton and Mayo for Paul).... add a center to that team and they'd prob have a legit shot at a ring...


what a defense !

[Omar_Little]

I read that D'Antoni is not a Melo guy, but Walsh is. So there could be hesitation. MDA really likes the makeup of the team now.

And I sort of agree. Melo is a phenomenal talent, but he's a ball stopper, and he's weak defensively.

I like what's going on now. I like Chandler, Gallo, and Fields who all have multiple skill sets and getting better. Wilson is a great two way player. Fields does everything.

It's like I'm going to be forced to become a Melo fan even though I've thought of this guy as a thug the last 7 years. Oh well........
Completely disagree. This isn't caron butler we're talking about here. Melo knows how to move the ball and makes great passes. He's not nearly as bad defensively as everyone thinks either.

[B]

Possible lockout has undermined Anthony's ability to bargain his way out of Denver.

The Nuggets have an idea what the off season will bring as do any teams they are dealing with while Anthony and his people are somewhat in the dark. He could possibly be leaving millions on the table without an old style contract to bring along into the new CBA era. I know people think he'd make it up playing in New York but the fact is if he was a big market attraction he'd already be one, ad men don't miss a chance to make a buck and they leave no stones unturned when it comes to market opportunities, going to New York won't suddenly propel him into some new marketing stratosphere.

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[Birmingham1955]

I dn't want Melo. I rather have OJ Mayo.

He would be cheaper, and won't have to give up your core or main role players to get him, but he is a young player. Melo is an all star top 10 player.
Getting Melo>>>> getting Mayo any day of the year, even if you have to give up half your team to get Melo.

[Birmingham1955]

Originally Posted by MeLO MvP 15
Felton-Mayo-Melo-Amare is so scary... damn that team can score with anyone... also it leaves the door open for a CP3 deal (something around Felton and Mayo for Paul).... add a center to that team and they'd prob have a legit shot at a ring...!

I never though of that. Knicks get Mayo raise his stock value, as he produces in that system. Then package Felton-Mayo- Fields and 1st round pick for Chris Paul.

[LaysUpBricks]

So if/when Melo gets traded... What happens to Billups? Will he demand a trade too?

[bagelred]

I never though of that. Knicks get Mayo raise his stock value, as he produces in that system. Then package Felton-Mayo- Fields and 1st round pick for Chris Paul.

:lol No thanks.

[Faberg]

The Nuggets don't have leverage to be asking for that kind of deal. :oldlol:

[Faberg]

So if/when Melo gets traded... What happens to Billups? Will he demand a trade too?

I would assume the Nuggets would trade him to a title contender. :confusedshrug:

[ChuckOakley]

If I'm NY I offer:

Gallo
Randolph
Azubuike
Curry
Future #1
$4m TPE
$3m Cash


for

Melo
Andersen
Balkman

Denver gets some nice pieces, and NY does this since:
-This allows them to go farther this season
-Allows them to resign Chandler and get an MLE next summer
-Assures they get Melo as opposed to him being traded to another team this season unextended and perhaps changing his mind.

NYK
Felton / Douglas / Rautins
Fields / Chandler / Walker
Anthony / Chandler / Sh.Williams
Amare / Turiaff / Balkman
Andersen / Mozgov

DENVER
Billups / Lawson / Carter
Afflalo / JR Smith
Gallinari / Azubuike / Forbes
Harrington / Randolph / Martin
Nene / Sh.Williams / Curry

[LaysUpBricks]

I would assume the Nuggets would trade him to a title contender. :confusedshrug:
Maybe Orlando for Nelson and someone else? Gortat?

[niko]

If I'm NY I offer:

Gallo
Randolph
Azubuike
Curry
Future #1
$4m TPE
$3m Cash


for

Melo
Andersen
Balkman

Denver gets some nice pieces, and NY does this since:
-This allows them to go farther this season
-Allows them to resign Chandler and get an MLE next summer
-Assures they get Melo as opposed to him being traded to another team this season unextended and perhaps changing his mind.

NYK
Felton / Douglas / Rautins
Fields / Chandler / Walker
Anthony / Chandler / Sh.Williams
Amare / Turiaff / Balkman
Andersen / Mozgov

DENVER
Billups / Lawson / Carter
Afflalo / JR Smith
Gallinari / Azubuike / Forbes
Harrington / Randolph / Martin
Nene / Sh.Williams / Curry

im in. you can also replace walsh when he leaves.

[ALBballer]

If I'm NY I offer:

Gallo
Randolph
Azubuike
Curry
Future #1
$4m TPE
$3m Cash


for

Melo
Andersen
Balkman

Denver gets some nice pieces, and NY does this since:
-This allows them to go farther this season
-Allows them to resign Chandler and get an MLE next summer
-Assures they get Melo as opposed to him being traded to another team this season unextended and perhaps changing his mind.

NYK
Felton / Douglas / Rautins
Fields / Chandler / Walker
Anthony / Chandler / Sh.Williams
Amare / Turiaff / Balkman
Andersen / Mozgov

DENVER
Billups / Lawson / Carter
Afflalo / JR Smith
Gallinari / Azubuike / Forbes
Harrington / Randolph / Martin
Nene / Sh.Williams / Curry

Sign me up.

[bagelred]

Renaldo Balkman??!!! Well that's like getting a first round pick BACK!!!!

DEAL!!!!!:cheers:









sarcasm....but I do think that's a fair deal

[niko]

Renaldo Balkman??!!! Well that's like getting a first round pick BACK!!!!

DEAL!!!!!:cheers:









sarcasm....but I do think that's a fair deal

joking aside, he'd be a really nice player on this current team. He could even play C or PF.

[ChuckOakley]

I was always a Balkman fan. He used to play game changing defense at times early on for NY. I expected a lot more in his career.

Denver may want a little more, so I can see Douglas or Mozgov being included. I don't see Chandler being included since Denver may just be forced to overpay for him as a RFA, and I see no reason for NY to also add Fields.

[niko]

I was always a Balkman fan. He used to play game changing defense at times early on for NY. I expected a lot more in his career.

Denver may want a little more, so I can see Douglas or Mozgov being included. I don't see Chandler being included since Denver may just be forced to overpay for him as a RFA, and I see no reason for NY to also add Fields.
When Balkman left NY he had a few minor injuries, and he also decided (for reasons only he knows) he was a bit of a scorer. It screwed him up. His strength was just this absolutely relentless energy. He was early career Gerald Wallace (on Sac when he was all hops and no skill).