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jaydacris
12-14-2010, 07:07 PM
The Los Angeles Lakers have acquired forward Joe Smith from the New Jersey Nets in a three-team trade, it was announced today by General Manager Mitch Kupchak. New Jersey will also send the Lakers Golden State’s second round draft choice in 2011 and Chicago’s second round draft choice in 2012. The Lakers will also receive the draft rights to Sergei Lishouk from Houston, as well as a trade exception. In return, New Jersey will receive guard Sasha Vujacic and a protected 2011 first round draft pick from the Lakers. New Jersey will receive a protected 2012 first round draft pick from Houston, while the Rockets will receive guard Terrence Williams from New Jersey.

Read more: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=6926#ixzz18CyvusOP

IGOTGAME
12-14-2010, 07:09 PM
will the lakers receive any players in this potential deal?

just read the lakers get Joe Smith!!! The perfect type of players to come off the Lakers bench. I'm very excited about this.

LosBulls
12-14-2010, 07:09 PM
Damn T.Will is really going to help the Rockets.

wpdougie2180
12-14-2010, 07:10 PM
What's the Lakers getting out of the deal?

Rekindled
12-14-2010, 07:10 PM
will the lakers receive any players in this potential deal?

the lakers are giving up sasha for gods sake, who do you expect in return for him lol

IGOTGAME
12-14-2010, 07:11 PM
the lakers are giving up sasha for gods sake, who do you expect in return for him lol

we getting Joe Smith!


Also included in the deal, sources say: Joe Smith goes to L.A., and Lakers send NJ i2011 1st rounder Houston sends NJ a 2012 1st rounder.

LosBulls
12-14-2010, 07:12 PM
Watch the Lakers get Budinger :roll:

Reverend Hoops
12-14-2010, 07:12 PM
Also included in deal, sources say: Nets' Joe Smith goes to LA and Lakers send 2011 1st rounder to NJ. Also, HOU sends NJ a '12 1st pick..

NJ gets two firsts for T Will not bad.

jaydacris
12-14-2010, 07:13 PM
thanks for the joe smith update
ill add it to the first post

Batz
12-14-2010, 07:13 PM
Joe Smith? Can he even run?

LosBulls
12-14-2010, 07:13 PM
Not like Laker's first means anything..

heyhey
12-14-2010, 07:14 PM
we getting Joe Smith!

that seems like a lot to give up for joe smith... I hope we trade Luke Walton instead of Sasha... Sigh, I don't know what Phi sees in Luke, we play 4 vs. 5 when Luke is on the court. At least sasha provides spacing with his shooting.

StacksOnDeck
12-14-2010, 07:17 PM
that seems like a lot to give up for joe smith... I hope we trade Luke Walton instead of Sasha... Sigh, I don't know what Phi sees in Luke, we play 4 vs. 5 when Luke is on the court. At least sasha provides spacing with his shooting.

A lot? Giving him up for nothing is a blessing in itself. We can get a backup big for 8-10 mins? Absolutely perfect. Walton still sucks but he was our 2nd worst player. His contract is too horrid for him to get traded though.

Batz
12-14-2010, 07:19 PM
A lot? Giving him up for nothing is a blessing in itself. We can get a backup big for 8-10 mins? Absolutely perfect. Walton still sucks but he was our 2nd worst player. His contract is too horrid for him to get traded though.
Just half that. Okay half it again, and again, and again. There, he'll probably give you that many mpg.

Bigsmoke
12-14-2010, 07:20 PM
lol Joe Smith?

YouCallILose
12-14-2010, 07:23 PM
Joe Smith might be the worst player in the NBA currently..why the hell would you want him?

barbaroi
12-14-2010, 07:23 PM
Sasha and farmar reunited.

StacksOnDeck
12-14-2010, 07:23 PM
Just half that. Okay half it again, and again, and again. There, he'll probably give you that many mpg.

OH NO! We replace our non playing player for another non playing player. :rolleyes:

Right, LA traded just to trade without getting any assets. :facepalm


Joe Smith might be the worst player in the NBA currently..why the hell would you want him?

^hasn't seen Sasha lmao. I don't blame you. He's always on the bench.

jaydacris
12-14-2010, 07:24 PM
nets collecting picks to make a better move at Melo?

iDunk
12-14-2010, 07:25 PM
NOOOOO KEEP T-WILL !!!


I cant believe this is happening. :facepalm

I loved watching him play, I really hope he succeeds with the Rockets. :facepalm :facepalm

Batz
12-14-2010, 07:25 PM
OH NO! We replace our non playing player for another non playing player. :rolleyes:

Right, LA traded just to trade without getting any assets. :facepalm
Hey douche, you do realize Lakers can get way better for a 5.5 mil expirer right? Stupid douche.

StacksOnDeck
12-14-2010, 07:27 PM
Hey douche, you do realize Lakers can get way better for a 5.5 mil expirer right? Stupid douche.

Do you realize that LA saved just about 10 mill by getting Joe Smith's 1.35 mill contract? Okay. You didn't. Now smarten up and do your research. Helps us with the luxury tax. Learn basketball k?

IGOTGAME
12-14-2010, 07:29 PM
Joe Smith might be the worst player in the NBA currently..why the hell would you want him?

do you watch smith?

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 07:30 PM
Man I like T-will. Sasha :cry: but we do get extra 1st round picks.Nets fans what do ya think about this?

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 07:32 PM
nets collecting picks to make a better move at Melo?
Nice idea now that you said it.

iDunk
12-14-2010, 07:32 PM
Man I like T-will. Sasha :cry: but we do get extra 1st round picks.Nets fans what do ya think about this?
This is what I think about this:

I hate King unless he turns around and picks up Iggy or Mayo. :D

T-Will was way too exciting for me to watch, now the Nets are even boringer for me to watch, and I am a big Nets fan. :facepalm

And no the Nets aren't getting Melo unless its a 1 year rental its all Knicks in his mind.

Batz
12-14-2010, 07:34 PM
Do you realize that LA saved just about 10 mill by getting Joe Smith's 1.35 mill contract? Okay. You didn't. Now smarten up and do your research. Helps us with the luxury tax. Learn basketball k?
Why are you talking as if they couldn't get somewhat the same deal financially and end up with someone even better? :oldlol:

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 07:34 PM
This is what I think about this:

I hate King unless he turns around and picks up Iggy or Mayo. :D

T-Will was way too exciting for me to watch, now the Nets are even boringer for me to watch, and I am a big Nets fan. :facepalm

And no the Nets aren't getting Melo unless its a 1 year rental its all Knicks in his mind.
Arent Nets going to Brooklyn anyway?

StacksOnDeck
12-14-2010, 07:36 PM
Why are you talking as if they couldn't get somewhat the same deal financially and end up with someone even better? :oldlol:

:oldlol:

Like who? Name me an expirer that makes less than 1.5 mill and is good.

*awaits*

iDunk
12-14-2010, 07:37 PM
Arent Nets going to Brooklyn anyway?
2 years, NBA players aren't patient if that's one thing we learned.

Nets will be a favored destination when they do move to Brooklyn.

Irish
12-14-2010, 07:39 PM
:oldlol:

Like who? Name me an expirer that makes less than 1.5 mill and is good.

*awaits*

Kwame Brown is better than Joe Smith

StacksOnDeck
12-14-2010, 07:40 PM
Kwame Brown is better than Joe Smith

You really think LA would go down that road again?

jaydacris
12-14-2010, 07:40 PM
http://www.insomniacslounge.com/uploaded_images/kobekwame-790282.jpg

"Kwame. I hate you."

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 07:40 PM
2 years, NBA players aren't patient if that's one thing we learned.

Nets will be a favored destination when they do move to Brooklyn.
Damn NJ is close to NY, either way isn't Melo from Brooklyn?

IGOTGAME
12-14-2010, 07:41 PM
Kwame Brown is better than Joe Smith

not for the Lakers. Joe Smith plays good defense, can shoot and is a smart player. He will be able to come in for 10 minutes, play defense, rebound and hit a couple a jumpers if needed. That is all they need from him

opps
12-14-2010, 07:43 PM
I like Sasha :(

Jr Llaban
12-14-2010, 07:44 PM
Damn NJ is close to NY, either way isn't Melo from Brooklyn?
Born in Brooklyn, but Baltimore is where he's really from. Joe Smith, former number 1 overall pick xD

Irish
12-14-2010, 07:47 PM
not for the Lakers. Joe Smith plays good defense, can shoot and is a smart player. He will be able to come in for 10 minutes, play defense, rebound and hit a couple a jumpers if needed. That is all they need from him

Agreed, but when Ratliff comes back he ticks the majority of these boxes himself. I understand it must be a luxury tax issue for the Lakers, but I think this is a backwards step. Vujacic may be an idiot, but he knows the system, hits free throws and is useful when Shannon Brown loses form.

TylerOO
12-14-2010, 07:50 PM
Laker fans are going to come in here and state how good Joe Smith is and how he fits perfectly. LMFAO

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 07:51 PM
Man I like T-will. Sasha :cry: but we do get extra 1st round picks.Nets fans what do ya think about this?
If it helps gets the nets a star player I don't mind. If it does not though I will be upset. The Nets need slashers who can create their own shot if they have to.
And to everyone bagging the Lakers for this. it was obviously a financial trade.
At least we get THE MACHINE LoL

1987_Lakers
12-14-2010, 07:51 PM
Good, we just saved tons of money.

bagelred
12-14-2010, 07:52 PM
Morey loves trying to snag good young talent on their rookie contracts.

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 07:52 PM
If it helps gets the nets a star player I don't mind. If it does not though I will be upset. The Nets need slashers who can create their own shot if they have to.
And to everyone bagging the Lakers for this. it was obviously a financial trade.Now that were loosing we hopefully get a top 3 pick overall .

Batz
12-14-2010, 07:54 PM
:oldlol:

Like who? Name me an expirer that makes less than 1.5 mill and is good.

*awaits*
Good? Probably not good but will contribute way more and Joe and actually play.

DJ Mbenga
Leon Powe
Darrel Arthur
Ian Mahinimi
Shelden Williams
Joey Dorsey
DJ White
Hilton Armstrong

These are some bigman they could get and would get minutes and are under 1.5 mil. I could find players who'd contribute way more even with earning a little more than 1.5 mil.

Joe Smith is 35 and injured. He also can't play D for shit. I doubt he gets minutes.

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 07:54 PM
Morey loves trying to snag good young talent on their rookie contracts.
That's what I was thinking.

brantonli
12-14-2010, 07:55 PM
Wasn't Williams sent to the D-League because of attitude problems? Hopefully guys like Adelman, Battier and Yao can straighten him out in Houston. But tbh, apart from the occasional highlight dunk, I don't know anything about T-Will, cliffs on him?

bagelred
12-14-2010, 07:56 PM
That's what I was thinking.

It's a smart way to build because it leaves all you cap space open. He keeps doing it. Hill, Lee, Budinger, Smith, now Williams. He was brilliant, he got Budinger to sign a 4 year rookie deal worth peanuts to lock him.

Here he goes again.

Faberg
12-14-2010, 07:56 PM
Daryl Morey once again wins if this trade goes through.

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 07:58 PM
http://ken-berger.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/11838893/26450495


The Nets have begun putting into motion a plan to acquire several assets that the Nuggets have asked for in a potential blockbuster trade for Carmelo Anthony, two people familiar with the situation told CBSSports.com.

The first step, agreed to in principle Tuesday, is a three-team trade in which the Nets get a first-round pick from the Rockets and another one from the Lakers. New Jersey sends Terrence Williams to the Rockets and Joe Smith to the Lakers, who send Sasha Vujacic to the Nets, the people familiar with the framework of the deal said.

konex
12-14-2010, 07:59 PM
Joe Smith? Can he even run?

We just need him to grab rebounds

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 07:59 PM
Wasn't Williams sent to the D-League because of attitude problems? Hopefully guys like Adelman, Battier and Yao can straighten him out in Houston. But tbh, apart from the occasional highlight dunk, I don't know anything about T-Will, cliffs on him?
Trust me hes a nice pickup and he went the to D-league for stuff like being late to practices and by the way he had 2 triple doubles in th D-League

bagelred
12-14-2010, 07:59 PM
Essentially Nets utilizing their cap space to get a first round pick. Payment for taking on Vujacic. But let's be honest. A Lakers 1st round pick isn't that valuable. 25th pick? Maybe?

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 08:00 PM
The Nets better be in serious discussions for a star(Melo)... or else I'm upset.

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 08:00 PM
We just need him to grab rebounds
And Defense.

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 08:00 PM
Wasn't Williams sent to the D-League because of attitude problems? Hopefully guys like Adelman, Battier and Yao can straighten him out in Houston. But tbh, apart from the occasional highlight dunk, I don't know anything about T-Will, cliffs on him?
Tempo changing super 6th man.

Can play PG, SG or SF.
Racks up assists and rebounds like nothing.
Also can rack up shots and turnovers.

One of the most talented passers for a non-PG have seen, though his ultimate role may be PG. Very strong for his size, but close to 6'4" than his listed 6'6"/

Batz
12-14-2010, 08:00 PM
We just need him to grab rebounds
You got the wrong guy.

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 08:02 PM
You got the wrong guy.
He's an excellent rebounder for his size. 14/7/5 last 21 games of last season.
28/11/11 in 3 Dleague games games.

YouGotServed
12-14-2010, 08:03 PM
To make room for Terrence Williams' arrival in three-way w/Lakers and Nets, Houston to deal Jermaine Taylor to SAC for future second-rounder

...

Batz
12-14-2010, 08:03 PM
He's an excellent rebounder for his size. 14/7/5 last 21 games of last season.
28/11/11 in 3 Dleague games games.
Joe Smith not T-Will.

bagelred
12-14-2010, 08:04 PM
The Nets better be in serious discussions for a star(Melo)... or else I'm upset.

Why? you think Williams is that good?

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 08:04 PM
You got the wrong guy.
:facepalm

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 08:06 PM
Why? you think Williams is that good?
It's a big risk to trade him away for LA's #1 and Houston's #1.
The kid has serious talent.

IGOTGAME
12-14-2010, 08:06 PM
The Nets better be in serious discussions for a star(Melo)... or else I'm upset.

Melo has pretty much told everyone he is going to NYK...I dont get why they would think otherwise.

game3524
12-14-2010, 08:06 PM
This is win for the Lakers just for the sheer fact they were able to get Sasha of their hands.

BTrujillo
12-14-2010, 08:08 PM
I like this. We got rid of an expirer... this "kinda" helps with some depth in the frontcourt...just a body for insurance... but more than anything this helps free up 5.5 million for next year...when of course Shannon Brown will not pick up the second year of his player option on the mere $2.2 million he is getting paid... more than anything this clears up money to resign Brown to another contract :cheers:

kingkong
12-14-2010, 08:09 PM
This is win for the Lakers just for the sheer fact they were able to get Sasha of their hands.

that guy is a pimp, man, you gotta keep him!

NuggetsFan
12-14-2010, 08:10 PM
Clearly has to be an attempt by the Nets to gear up for Melo? or are they just parting ways with T-Will and taking what they can get.

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 08:11 PM
Clearly has to be an attempt by the Nets to gear up for Melo? or are they just parting ways with T-Will and taking what they can get.
Clearly this is best deal 1st round picks Favors and Murphy for Melo.

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 08:11 PM
Melo has pretty much told everyone he is going to NYK...I dont get why they would think otherwise.
He declined that.

thejumpa
12-14-2010, 08:12 PM
So....the Lakers traded away a scrub and a pick for another scrub? Oh well. At least they get a big body and not another shooter or something.

I'm not sure about how my boy TWill will fit on the Rockets though. Someone gotta clue me in on that one.

bagelred
12-14-2010, 08:13 PM
It's a big risk to trade him away for LA's #1 and Houston's #1.
The kid has serious talent.

This is a step in the Melo trade, according to Berger. Nets are loading up on first rounders. Favors, first rounders, Murphy for Melo.

As the kids say "Shit just got real."


Are you happy or sad with the Melo developments? Harris, Melo, Lopez trifecta?

bagelred
12-14-2010, 08:15 PM
Melo has pretty much told everyone he is going to NYK...I dont get why they would think otherwise.

No, not according to other sources. Chris Sheridan is a New York Knick reporter and he always takes the NYK angle. Wouldn't be surprised if it was just made up.

Peter Vecsey says Sheridan is completely full of shit.

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 08:15 PM
This is a step in the Melo trade, according to Berger. Nets are loading up on first rounders. Favors, first rounders, Murphy for Melo.

As the kids say "Shit just got real."


Are you happy or sad with the Melo developments? Harris, Melo, Lopez trifecta?
Pretty good. Looks like T will will be dealt tommorow and is inactive today seems official tommorow.

AMISTILLILL
12-14-2010, 08:16 PM
We just need him to grab rebounds

Boston fans say the same thing about Jermaine O'Neal and get ostracized.

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 08:17 PM
No, not according to other sources. Chris Sheridan is a New York Knick reporter and he always takes the NYK angle. Wouldn't be surprised if it was just made up.

Peter Vecsey says Sheridan is completely full of shit.
Two other things Sheridan has claimed:

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brantonli
12-14-2010, 08:17 PM
...

Does Morey have a deal with the Kings to make them our dumping ground? First Adelman hired from the Kings (ok a one year time gap), then the Artest trade, then Landry-Martin trade, now Luther Head is playing for them, and now we trade Taylor to them as well?

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 08:19 PM
This is a step in the Melo trade, according to Berger. Nets are loading up on first rounders. Favors, first rounders, Murphy for Melo.

As the kids say "Shit just got real."


Are you happy or sad with the Melo developments? Harris, Melo, Lopez trifecta?
If it happens, it's exciting and makes us happy in the short-term but it's short-sighted IMO.

It means Murphy, T.Williams, Favors for Melo.

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 08:22 PM
Why? you think Williams is that good?
He has the potential to be. you could definitely see a difference in the Nets play when he plays. excellent dribbling skills, court vision and ability to finish. His only flaw was his shot. he had plenty of time to improve imo. oh well.

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 08:24 PM
He has the potential to be. you could definitely see a difference in the Nets play when he plays. excellent dribbling skills, court vision and ability to finish. His only flaw was his shot. he had plenty of time to improve imo. oh well.
I don't know about only... but he was certainly the most exciting Net to watch and arguably the most talented.

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 08:25 PM
I don't know about only... but he was certainly the most exciting Net to watch and arguably the most talented.
when I typed only i meant that's his biggest flaw. my bad lol

TylerOO
12-14-2010, 08:26 PM
He has the potential to be. you could definitely see a difference in the Nets play when he plays. excellent dribbling skills, court vision and ability to finish. His only flaw was his shot. he had plenty of time to improve imo. oh well.

T-Will puts up good numbers when he gets the minutes. I remember he was beasting the last month or so of last season.

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 08:28 PM
T-Will puts up good numbers when he gets the minutes. I remember he was beasting the last month or so of last season.
It was awesome. He was a big reason why we didnt have the worst record ever.

SoCalMike
12-14-2010, 08:28 PM
great move for the lakers!


:pimp:

wakencdukest
12-14-2010, 08:30 PM
Laker fans are going to come in here and state how good Joe Smith is and how he fits perfectly. LMFAO


Don't think so dude. You're dead wrong.

It's purely a financial move.

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 08:31 PM
Its official they will move tommorow.

tpols
12-14-2010, 08:33 PM
I can't believe this:facepalm

Twill was our only player that could create off the dribble. Morrow and outlaw can't for shit. Harris never got the type of penetration twill did and he sure as hell couldn't finish like him whether it be a layup, dunk, or nice pass.

Twill was one of the only reasons I've been tuning into nets games now that the team is going down the drain again. Him and favors but it looks like our dumbass mngment are tossing both of them.:(

Rashard
12-14-2010, 08:35 PM
I've been calling for the Lakers to get another big for months. Sasha is out of the rotation and not needed. That being the case, this is a great move for the defending champs. While Joe Smith may not be a youngster anymore, he gives the Lakers quality depth up front. He's a veteran, tough, and smart. His skill set is also ideal for the Triangle. Nothing earth shattering but good move by Mitch.

puppychili
12-14-2010, 08:36 PM
Does this mean that Laker fans will finally admit that Sasha is a douche?

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 08:39 PM
http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:UZ3aEXQcehKEgM:http://www.vujacic.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/sasha-vujacic-rituals-large.jpg&t=1

Rashard
12-14-2010, 08:40 PM
Does this mean that Laker fans will finally admit that Sasha is a douche?

Sasha had his ups and downs but he served a purpose. Hit two clutch free throws that will go down in Lakers history. He'll always be remembered for that. That being said, the Lakers need more size up front and Smith helps in that area.

AMISTILLILL
12-14-2010, 08:48 PM
Sasha just found out about the trade:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5XroW3nGXQ

Harion
12-14-2010, 08:49 PM
Sasha will marry Sharapova. he doesn't care about basketball anymore.

Faberg
12-14-2010, 08:50 PM
I'm watching the Nets game and T-Will confirmed the trade.


Welcome welcome, to all my jersey fans an people it's been real I love y'all an thanks, to HOUSTON what uppppp "go Rockets" lol

http://twitter.com/#!/therealtwill

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 08:51 PM
What's up with the lol? lol

Sarcastic
12-14-2010, 08:52 PM
I wasn't even aware that Joe Smith was still in the league.

Is Glenn Robinson still playing too?

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 08:52 PM
Sharapova and Kardashian? niice

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 08:56 PM
double post

ChuckOakley
12-14-2010, 08:56 PM
Sharapova and Kardashian? niice
And Beyonce.
And Proky's White Russians though he also needs some drinks.
Sorry.. cheesy Kanye reference.

Rashard
12-14-2010, 09:06 PM
I have a question for anyone who has great cap knowledge.

With Joe Smith's salary being a little over 1 million and Sasha's being 5 million, does this mean the Lakers will have a trade exception of a little under/over 4 million? If that's the case, could they then use that exception to absorb the salary of another player if they decide to make another move? Thanks in advance to anyone who can provide the answer.

Reverend Hoops
12-14-2010, 09:06 PM
Sharapova requested the trade she wants to live in the Big Apple.

And being a Hawks fan Joe Smith is absolutely horrible. He lost everything he had.

Irish
12-14-2010, 09:10 PM
I wonder how the Nets will utilise Sasha. I have no idea how their rotation is but they don't seem to be that guard heavy?

Maybe 10 mins a night?

dyna
12-14-2010, 09:11 PM
Sharapova and Kardashian? niice


And Beyonce.
And Proky's White Russians though he also needs some drinks.
Sorry.. cheesy Kanye reference.

Next?? Lala??

jbryan1984
12-14-2010, 09:13 PM
What is Avery Johnson's problem with T-Will? So far this season, all the hype has failed. They are worse than my Cavs. New York fans, I'm happy for you that you at least got the Knicks.

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 09:13 PM
I wonder how the Nets will utilise Sasha. I have no idea how their rotation is but they don't seem to be that guard heavy?

Maybe 10 mins a night?
Actually Morrow,Harris,Farmar, Graham,Ross at guards

Put Back Dunk
12-14-2010, 09:14 PM
The Rockets seem to get their hands on plenty of young guys with great upside who's original team is just fed-up. I wouldn't be surprised if they get Hasheem Thabeet soon to learn behind their vet bigs.

D12"Magic"
12-14-2010, 09:14 PM
What is Avery Johnson's problem with T-Will? So far this season, all the hype has failed. They are worse than my Cavs. New York fans, I'm happy for you that you at least got the Knicks.There not trading him because Avery's mad at him :hammerhead:

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 09:17 PM
I wonder how the Nets will utilise Sasha. I have no idea how their rotation is but they don't seem to be that guard heavy?

Maybe 10 mins a night?
With Williams gone and Damion James and Morrow both injured... probably a lot more. we cold really use a shooter out there.

redbull
12-14-2010, 09:18 PM
Suprised the Lakers couldn't get Kevin Durant in return for Vujacic

And somehow the commisioner doesn't object

DuMa
12-14-2010, 09:29 PM
i know one guy whose gonna be reallly reallly reallly happy. i mean just look how happy he really is!!!!!1

http://i.imgur.com/sVi6j.jpg

KenneBell
12-14-2010, 09:33 PM
Next?? Lala??
I need to see that lineup happen. :oldlol:

crisoner
12-14-2010, 09:33 PM
Does this mean that Sasha is down with Rocafella now?

crisoner
12-14-2010, 09:35 PM
Does this mean that Laker fans will finally admit that Sasha is a douche?

He is the Machine....what do you expect?

Put Back Dunk
12-14-2010, 09:42 PM
So the Nets get two future picks, and the Nuggets are rumored to be looking to deal JR Smith....over/under on Melo to Nets?

Mr. Jabbar
12-14-2010, 09:48 PM
just came home, how was bynum doing while on court?

Gevz2kX
12-14-2010, 09:49 PM
Thank God I won't have to see Vujacic's face as often now

dee-rose
12-14-2010, 10:01 PM
Sasha's reaction when he found out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUw2g7kGL-s

Nets fan 93
12-14-2010, 10:02 PM
Sasha's reaction when he found out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUw2g7kGL-s
Joke was already used. If anything he should be happy. He can get some nice PT and if he doesnt like it here, it is only untill the end of the season anyway

AMISTILLILL
12-14-2010, 10:03 PM
Sasha's reaction when he found out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUw2g7kGL-s

This is literally the first post on the page before this one.

dee-rose
12-14-2010, 10:04 PM
This is literally the first post on the page before this one.

My bad, didn't see it

TennesseeFan
12-14-2010, 10:12 PM
Is this a troll?

AJ2k8
12-14-2010, 10:34 PM
Vujacic and Farmar reunited!!:bowdown:

Lakers13
12-14-2010, 10:34 PM
@LarryCoon One other benefit to Lakers in this trade -- they gain a trade exception for $5,475,113. 7

Not bad :applause:

Rashard
12-14-2010, 10:54 PM
Not bad :applause:

I wonder if the Lakers will use that exception. They will need more depth at the guard position now. Im sure there are some quality guards out there that can be had and are in the last year of their contracts. Anthony Parker from the Cavs would be IDEAL.

R.I.P.
12-14-2010, 10:58 PM
My first thought on that blockbuster?

http://www.topnews.in/files/Maria-Sharapova1.jpg

AMISTILLILL
12-14-2010, 11:50 PM
I wonder if the Lakers will use that exception. They will need more depth at the guard position now. Im sure there are some quality guards out there that can be had and are in the last year of their contracts. Anthony Parker from the Cavs would be IDEAL.

Why would the Lakers be going after guards when they have guys like Shannon Brown boasting improved perimeter shooting and have big plans for Blake in the playoffs? They sign a guy like Anthony Parker and he'd see no minutes.

rezznor
12-15-2010, 12:15 AM
this may also be some more aaron brooks insurance for the rockets. brooks is due for a raise and lowrey has been running the team well since aaron has been on the shelf. i won't be surprised to see him traded.

LA_Showtime
12-15-2010, 12:15 AM
Sasha and farmar reunited.

Which sucks for Avery Johnson, since those two never enjoyed playing with one another.

Rashard
12-15-2010, 12:16 AM
Why would the Lakers be going after guards when they have guys like Shannon Brown boasting improved perimeter shooting and have big plans for Blake in the playoffs? They sign a guy like Anthony Parker and he'd see no minutes.

Right now they have only 4 guards on the roster.

Kobe, Fish, Blake, and Brown. I just feel they are now a little thin there and adding a little more quality depth at that position wouldnt hurt. Parker would be a great fit on the floor and on the books as his deal expires this season. Just thinkin out loud.

LA_Showtime
12-15-2010, 12:20 AM
I thought this was a peculiar trade too. The Lakers are pretty thin in the back court, and it's not like their guards are 25 year's old. Hopefully they sign or trade for somebody else. Vujacic never lived up to his contract, but at least he worked hard and played well when given the minutes.

d.bball.guy
12-15-2010, 12:22 AM
I was expecting Brook Lopez.

AMISTILLILL
12-15-2010, 12:26 AM
Right now they have only 4 guards on the roster.

Kobe, Fish, Blake, and Brown. I just feel they are now a little thin there and adding a little more quality depth at that position wouldnt hurt. Parker would be a great fit on the floor and on the books as his deal expires this season. Just thinkin out loud.

I just don't think a dude like that would get any minutes, unless they're thinking of sitting guys like Blake who already struggle for scraps from the table in the way of minutes as it is. When the rotation locks up and they're only playing 8-9 guys in the playoffs I can't imagine there would be much in the way of minutes for a guy like Parker coming off the bench. Gotta consider some of these guys need time to acclimate into the triangle. If you have them coming in fresh, especially in the post-season, the prospect for failure is high.

If anything it might be decent injury insurance, but I don't think LAL is too worried about that.

knightfall88
12-15-2010, 12:26 AM
I thought this was a peculiar trade too. The Lakers are pretty thin in the back court, and it's not like their guards are 25 year's old. Hopefully they sign or trade for somebody else. Vujacic never lived up to his contract, but at least he worked hard and played well when given the minutes.

Not too bad since they have Barnes.

macpierce
12-15-2010, 12:29 AM
the emergence of brown really shut the door on sasha tho IMO
he took away sashas minutes
i do think sasha is a decent player but was clearly overpaid

The_Yearning
12-15-2010, 12:36 AM
Damn I don't see Sharapova living in New Jersey

AMISTILLILL
12-15-2010, 12:44 AM
My first thought on that blockbuster?

http://www.topnews.in/files/Maria-Sharapova1.jpg

SEE DA BRESSSSSS

d.bball.guy
12-15-2010, 12:46 AM
SEE DA BRESSSSSS
I imagine Shaq saying that! :roll::roll::roll:

gts
12-15-2010, 12:52 AM
Right now they have only 4 guards on the roster.

Kobe, Fish, Blake, and Brown. I just feel they are now a little thin there and adding a little more quality depth at that position wouldnt hurt. Parker would be a great fit on the floor and on the books as his deal expires this season. Just thinkin out loud.maybe for most teams but with phils system you can insert a sf into the backcourt if needed or odom in a pinch

right now the lakes have both blake and brown playing near 20 mpg fish at just over 20 mpg and kobe just over 30 mpg and sasha playing nothing... it was a strategic move mostly, get a big body in there for garbage time and gain some flexibility to make a move down the road if needed

1987_Lakers
12-15-2010, 12:56 AM
Right now they have only 4 guards on the roster.

Kobe, Fish, Blake, and Brown. I just feel they are now a little thin there and adding a little more quality depth at that position wouldnt hurt. Parker would be a great fit on the floor and on the books as his deal expires this season. Just thinkin out loud.

Meh, both Blake & Brown are very good back ups & if needed Barnes can play at the guard spot a few min. When healthy this team is very deep.

Hondo
12-15-2010, 12:58 AM
Now Mitch can concentrate on using that $5 million to bring in a kick-ass player.

Lakers12
12-15-2010, 02:28 AM
Now Mitch can concentrate on using that $5 million to bring in a kick-ass player.

jerry buss said, NO NO. he's saving some money on the luxury tax.

opps
12-15-2010, 02:50 AM
And Beyonce.
And Proky's White Russians though he also needs some drinks.
Sorry.. cheesy Kanye reference.

U listen to Nicki Minaj?

ronnymac
12-15-2010, 03:23 AM
Whilst Williams is an ultra talented explosive scorer, he also is an ball hog who dosent like to make that extra pass. I hope he learns to buy into the team game scheme we have right now.

oh the horror
12-15-2010, 03:39 AM
Im not mad at the Lakers at ALL. Sasha literally NEVER GOT ANY MINUTES. Dude was HARDLY on the floor for LA.


So, you save a ton of cash, AND you get alittle big man insurance just in case we need it down the line? Not too shabby at all.

chazzy
12-15-2010, 03:48 AM
Financial move, Joe Smith is just a bonus insurance big guy. Giving up the 1st rd pick also saves up 1.5 mil that can towards a new Shannon contract too.

macpierce
12-15-2010, 03:51 AM
now kobe doesnt have somebody to carry his bags for him :oldlol:
or pound his chest before games

Ruh-Roh
12-15-2010, 03:54 AM
I can't stand the fact that Sasha has 2 rings. I dislike him the most of anyone in the NBA...just something about him makes me not want him to be successful, which is pretty uncharacteristic of me towards others.

It's funny/ironic because I love Brian Scalabrine, and despite their somewhat similar roles on their respective teams, I see him completely differently.

The fact he's getting shipped off to the Nets makes me really happy inside for horrible reasons, but happy nonetheless.:D

nevetslc88
12-15-2010, 04:20 AM
The Machine Goes to Jersey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDtUCdtaiPE

crisoner
12-15-2010, 04:25 AM
The Machine Goes to Jersey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDtUCdtaiPE


Sasha got two rings with the Lakeshow...made those two huge free throws in the Finals....what more can he want from the Lakers? Now he gets a chance to get more minutes in New Jersey. He will get a opportunity to play.

Thanks for those free throws Sasha!

SYM86
12-15-2010, 04:33 AM
Laker fans are going to come in here and state how good Joe Smith is and how he fits perfectly. LMFAO

yea just like the Cavs Fans thought SHAQ and Bronze will bring them a championship

Samurai Swoosh
12-15-2010, 04:35 AM
Good Riddance, Sasha

flipogb
12-15-2010, 04:39 AM
Right now they have only 4 guards on the roster.

Kobe, Fish, Blake, and Brown. I just feel they are now a little thin there and adding a little more quality depth at that position wouldnt hurt. Parker would be a great fit on the floor and on the books as his deal expires this season. Just thinkin out loud.
Barnes can play a little bit of SG if needed since they still have Walton/Ebanks

Kingsfans818
12-15-2010, 05:06 AM
with all this talk about Sasha and Joe Smith people fair to see the genius of Daryl Morey.. watch what Terrance Williams becomes...well worth a lotto protected first lol

Kingsfans818
12-15-2010, 05:07 AM
Sasha got two rings with the Lakeshow...made those two huge free throws in the Finals....what more can he want from the Lakers? Now he gets a chance to get more minutes in New Jersey. He will get a opportunity to play.

Thanks for those free throws Sasha!

what can he do that Marrow can't? lol

he's lucky that AM just got injured lol

All Net
12-15-2010, 05:11 AM
Lakers save alot of salary and get a big man vet in return. Granted he isn't very good but still least he is a big. Just helps to add to the bottom of the bench depth.

sbw19
12-15-2010, 05:45 AM
Good Riddance, Sasha

Dude iced NBA Finals Game 7 vs Celtics no less and hit arguably the biggest and most memorable FTs in recent Lakers history. Nothing can take that away from him.

konex
12-15-2010, 07:31 AM
Hmm, someone on another board posted a conspiracy theory that the Nets owner wants Sharapova at their games :hammerhead:

PurpleChuck
12-15-2010, 07:57 AM
Hmm, someone on another board posted a conspiracy theory that the Nets owner wants Sharapova at their games :hammerhead:
:roll:

jbryan1984
12-15-2010, 08:56 AM
Guess that means Jermaine Taylor will be waived. Or has he already?

R.I.P.
12-15-2010, 09:07 AM
Hmm, someone on another board posted a conspiracy theory that the Nets owner wants Sharapova at their games :hammerhead:

Of course. How is that even a discussion? The Nets traded for Sharapova not for Vujicic. The Nets owner probably inquired what it would cost to have Anna Kournikova

bagelred
12-15-2010, 09:59 AM
Another thread stickied that we'll never see. Don't sticky threads. They get lost in the shuffle.

LA.MJ&KB#1
12-15-2010, 10:04 AM
Glad To See Sasha Gone. Thank God

bleedinpurpleTwo
12-15-2010, 10:06 AM
Sasha V and a 1st rounder is a lot to give up for Joe Smith!

UK-NJ
12-15-2010, 10:38 AM
Sasha V and a 1st rounder is a lot to give up for Joe Smith!
Oh, he's worth it. The Nets were 2-0 with Joe Smith as a starter. :oldlol:

niko
12-15-2010, 10:38 AM
Nets collecting picks for a Melo trade that would kill them as he won't resign. Nets giving up on a good young talent whose been a bit of a jerk, but a manageable jerk (he's not getting arrested, etc.) Terrible move. What did they need more picks for? They gave up a young player with real potential because Avery couldn't control him for TWENTY games?

DeronMillsap
12-15-2010, 10:44 AM
I honestly didn't realized Joe Smith was still in the league. :lol

wally_world
12-15-2010, 10:48 AM
Sasha V and a 1st rounder is a lot to give up for Joe Smith!

I agree. Sasha aint fantastic but Joe Smith isnt really going to be a contributor for the Lakers at all.

Sasha's still a good lockerroom, practice player, and his FT shooting and defense (at times) can still be valuable to this Laker team. Guess the acquisition of Blake and emergence of Shannon Brown made him expendable.

netsfan549
12-15-2010, 11:02 AM
Nets also sending 2 future 2nd record picks. I think Nets got a steal out of this

alenleomessi
12-15-2010, 11:26 AM
I think it works for everyone :cheers:

Nastradamus
12-15-2010, 12:59 PM
smart deal if true. Lakers needed to dump Sasha's salary, as he has no use behind Brown and Barnes off the bench. Joe Smith gives them a little more vet depth up front if worse comes to worse and Bynum and/or Ratliff are hurt. They don't want the 1st rounder anyways most likely, as it's guaranteed salary and they ahve their roster pretty covered.

Houston, smart as always, uses it's available assets to add a very talented, albeit troubled young player. TWill could help Brooks a ton by running th epoint at times.

NJ dumps a guy that wasn't buying in to the program on a young team trying to establish itself. They get Sasha, who may even play a little for them and 2 first rounders. Not bad. Smith was out of the rotation with Humpries and Favors playing well and Murphy around.

Arroyo8
12-15-2010, 01:17 PM
whats the guard rotation in houston now?

aaron brooks
kmart
lee
twill
?who am i forgetting?

Nastradamus
12-15-2010, 01:29 PM
whats the guard rotation in houston now?

aaron brooks
kmart
lee
twill
?who am i forgetting?

Lowry with a little Budinger in there. Taylor to Sactown

noob cake
12-15-2010, 02:12 PM
whats the guard rotation in houston now?

aaron brooks
kmart
lee
twill
?who am i forgetting?

Forgot our best point guard Kyle Lowry and third string Ish Smith

insidehoops
12-15-2010, 02:59 PM
Trade became official today (Wednesday)

The Los Angeles Lakers have acquired forward Joe Smith from the New Jersey Nets in a three-team trade, it was announced today by General Manager Mitch Kupchak. New Jersey will also send the Lakers Golden State

ronniec
12-15-2010, 03:44 PM
Sasha is gone, so does Sharapova... :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

ChuckOakley
12-15-2010, 05:22 PM
More info from NJ's end:

http://www.netsdaily.com/2010/12/15/1878453/more-details-on-trade#comments

--The Rockets first round pick in 2012 is lottery protected 1-14 until 2016 and then it rolls into a second round pick in 2017.

--The Lakers pick in 2011 is protected 1-18 until 2016 and than rolls into an unprotected pick in 2017

--The Nets are now over the salary cap by $45,000 which permits the team to use the 25% "cushion" in trades. The Nets can now trade for a player whose contract is 25% more than the contract(s) being sent out. The Nets can also sign players to MLE and LLE contracts to facilitate trades.

--The Nets have renounced their Bird Rights to Jarvis Hayes.

Thumdar
12-16-2010, 02:07 AM
I just don't get the Lakers wanting Joe Smith, but who am I to second guess Phil & company? Glad to see Vuvu gone ~ he was a friggin' on-court liability.

ihatetimthomas
12-16-2010, 02:24 AM
I just don't get the Lakers wanting Joe Smith, but who am I to second guess Phil & company? Glad to see Vuvu gone ~ he was a friggin' on-court liability.

Lakers save money and they gain a trade exception worth about 5 million. This gives the Lakers a chance to sign a FA is one happens to come on the market and if not, they save about 10 million. They also get 2 second rounds and rights to a player overseas. So it's really more than just getting Joe Smith.

Sasha was never getting PT and was rotting away on the bench. They pick up a very elder veteran but he is a good locker room guy and I think he can help in very limited minutes if needed.

Lakers made a solid decision for the team personnel and financial state.

TDPrime2030
12-16-2010, 03:00 AM
Lakers basically just throw all their trash to New Jersey.

Thumdar
12-16-2010, 03:23 AM
Lakers save money and they gain a trade exception worth about 5 million. This gives the Lakers a chance to sign a FA is one happens to come on the market and if not, they save about 10 million. They also get 2 second rounds and rights to a player overseas. So it's really more than just getting Joe Smith.

Sasha was never getting PT and was rotting away on the bench. They pick up a very elder veteran but he is a good locker room guy and I think he can help in very limited minutes if needed.

Lakers made a solid decision for the team personnel and financial state.

Thanks for the informed reply. Good to know.

I've been watching the Lakers religiously since 1999 and have always been impressed with their management. They're in it to win it every year and that's impressive. There was a season or two when Sasha seemed to be a real contributor but that was ages ago. I was shocked to seem him make the roster the last two years. I hope he gets some playing time and that we never have to watch him cry again.

d.bball.guy
12-16-2010, 04:37 AM
We won in this trade.
Wait, Kobe does his kinda pre-game ritual with Vujacic right? Sasha punches Kobe in the torso right? Who do it now to Kobe? :lol

ihatetimthomas
12-16-2010, 03:09 PM
Thanks for the informed reply. Good to know.

I've been watching the Lakers religiously since 1999 and have always been impressed with their management. They're in it to win it every year and that's impressive. There was a season or two when Sasha seemed to be a real contributor but that was ages ago. I was shocked to seem him make the roster the last two years. I hope he gets some playing time and that we never have to watch him cry again.

Well he got a 3 year 15 mil contract 3 years ago after coming off his best season. So Lakers have been basically stuck with him, they had no choice bc he was under contract. But outside of this and Luke, Lakers decisions have been stellar.

jbot
12-16-2010, 04:04 PM
i think t-will is a decent player but this is great for smith. that would be sweet if he got a ring.

nevetslc88
12-16-2010, 05:30 PM
We won in this trade.
Wait, Kobe does his kinda pre-game ritual with Vujacic right? Sasha punches Kobe in the torso right? Who do it now to Kobe? :lol

Lakers do have two rookies. probably going to be Devin Ebanks.