Ama're's failed game winner was a fix

[TennesseeFan]

Did you see how the clock started when he inbounded it? And besides, Kobe and Bron and them get lags on the clock when they inbound it.

Biased f()ckers

[Borat]

Did you see how the clock started when he inbounded it? And besides, Kobe and Bron and them get lags on the clock when they inbound it.

Biased f()ckers

He didnt get it off in 0.4 seconds, unlike you last night

[WhySoInsecure?]

i just played it in slow motion and it was at .3 when he touched it.

[Profound]

He took too long to shoot the ball he went into a full shooting motion and he doesn't have the fastest release simple and plain good shot but not enough time for it.

[Point Blank]

:roll:

[Hihater]

I don't know why they did that play with only .4 sec left. i rather have a ally oop from the in bound.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Stop with the damn conspiracy theories ... they're whiny and annoying, honestly.

[Talent]

I doubt this very much.

[Derka]

That shot is going to give me nightmares. Regular season games aren't supposed to give me nightmares!!

[BlackWhiteGreen]

He didnt get it off in 0.4 seconds, unlike you last night

:roll: amazing :bowdown:

[MrJohnWall]

What does that have to do with Kobe & Lebron? :hammerhead:

But yeah It was a home game they should have hooked him up with .2 lag

[RoseCity07]

No, the home score keeping didn't rob him. Fisher didn't have time to bend his knee and shoot a shot in rhythm. So there is no way Amare could have caught it, took the time to go through his full shot motion, and get it off.

What you want is for the score keep to wait until the shot is off then start the clock. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

[kentatm]

he brought the ball way down to far in his shooting motion.

even if he had an extra .1 he would not have gotten it off.

[DeronMillsap]

lol....I saw Amare took his sweet time taking that shot.

0.4 second, it's gotta be a quick catch and shoot.

He caught it for like a second and then shot it.

[TennesseeFan]

What does that have to do with Kobe & Lebron? :hammerhead:

But yeah It was a home game they should have hooked him up with .2 lag

Because they always get lags!

[MrJohnWall]

Because they always get lags!
Shut up.

Lebron i only seen get Lag once against Denver last year

and never seen Kobe get it

Guys who shoot that much just have there timings down

[Undisputed]

If anything, the NBA would want to fix games in the Knicks favor. Having a New York team doing well=extra profits for the league.

[TennesseeFan]

No, the home score keeping didn't rob him. Fisher didn't have time to bend his knee and shoot a shot in rhythm. So there is no way Amare could have caught it, took the time to go through his full shot motion, and get it off.

What you want is for the score keep to wait until the shot is off then start the clock. Sorry, it doesn't work that way.

The clock is not supposed to start on the inbounds

[gts]

Did you see how the clock started when he inbounded it? And besides, Kobe and Bron and them get lags on the clock when they inbound it.

Biased f()ckersthe knicks supply the timekeeper...

[50inchvertical]

.4 is the absolute minimum you are allowed to get a controlled shot off, .3 or less it has to be a tip or they won't even consider it. The way Amare caught, squared, and his release wasn't terribly fast, it was a very easy call to make. Even with the human reaction time delay, he didn't get it off in time.

[TennesseeFan]

If anything, the NBA would want to fix games in the Knicks favor. Having a New York team doing well=extra profits for the league.

Sure if its against the Raptors or the Hornets, but the NBA favors the Celtics, even against New York.

I like the Celtics, but I hate seeing teams get advantages like this. Total garbage.

[Profound]

The point is why the **** did Ama're spot up? he didn't have time to do all that it was supposed to be a simple catch and shoot no scratch it catch and heave. Either way good game they competed with the Celtics(even though they're missing a few guys).

[oh the horror]

Wouldnt it be a fix, if the clock "lagged?"


Dude, face reality.....


.04 seconds isnt enough to set yourself for a shot. Its literally probably enough time, to catch and heave up a shot. Amare set his feet, and went into a full motion. You simply cannot do that.

[Scoooter]

The point is why the **** did Ama're spot up? he didn't have time to do all that it was supposed to be a simple catch and shoot no scratch it catch and heave. Either way good game they competed with the Celtics(even though they're missing a few guys).
Wilson Chandler threw the inbounds pass low and slightly behind Amar'e, instead of right into his shooting pocket. Plus Amar'e has kind of a slow release.

[Real Men Wear Green]

So the Knicks time-keepers cheated for the Celtics? Interesting theory. (Actually it's not that interesting)

[TennesseeFan]

Wouldnt it be a fix, if the clock "lagged?"


Only if other players didn't get them. But other players do, for the league to favor Kobe or Bron in late game situations, but not give Amar'e a chance is ridiculous.

[iDunk]

If we had .2 more on the clock we would've won this game.

Or if Gallo made alt least 2-3 of those free throws. Crazy how these things end up to bite you in the ass.

[TennesseeFan]

So the Knicks time-keepers cheated for the Celtics? Interesting theory. (Actually it's not that interesting)

They do not belong to the Knicks.

[Harion]

He didnt get it off in 0.4 seconds, unlike you last night
:applause: best post of the thread :lol
y'all could stop posting now

[oh the horror]

Either way, the Knicks are real. Im liking what im seeing out of that squad so far. If they continue to play like this throughout the year, I'd be impressed.


Right NOW, they're definately a playoff caliber team.

[gts]

They do not belong to the Knicks.yes they do each team is responsible for supplying stat men and timekeepers then in the playoffs the best time keepers from around the league are used but never to work their home team

[WhySoInsecure?]

http://knickstweets.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Paul-Pierce-Shot.jpg

[oh the horror]

http://knickstweets.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Paul-Pierce-Shot.jpg



See, now thats fu*ked up.

[Sarcastic]

http://knickstweets.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Paul-Pierce-Shot.jpg

Knicks should protest the game.

Clearly more time should have been on the clock.

[Draz]

the timeout before paul pierce pocession was paused at 12.2 when it should of been 12.5 or so plus.

[Draz]

http://knickstweets.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Paul-Pierce-Shot.jpg
wow. is there anything that can be done about this at all?

[iDunk]

http://knickstweets.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Paul-Pierce-Shot.jpg
:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Thank you for pissing me off even more now.

I'm gonna go rent a gun now.

[TennesseeFan]

http://knickstweets.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Paul-Pierce-Shot.jpg

Even more evidence of the refs working for the Celtics!

[RoseCity07]

See, now thats fu*ked up.

This I didn't see. That sucks. Not the first team this has happened too though.

[Derka]

Knicks should protest the game.

Clearly more time should have been on the clock.

Weren't you in the other thread pissing and moaning about excuses Celtics fans were making? Stop being so needlessly mad.

[Draz]

im so pissed. everyones forgetting about the 12.2 timeout that should be 12.5

[DeronMillsap]

Did the Knicks call a time out immediately right after that shot?

[Sarcastic]

Weren't you in the other thread pissing and moaning about excuses Celtics fans were making? Stop being so needlessly mad.

I'm not mad. Just saying the Knicks should protest.

What's wrong with that. Clearly the clock should have stopped earlier.

[Derka]

I'm not mad. Just saying the Knicks should protest.

What's wrong with that. Clearly the clock should have stopped earlier.

They're probably going to find 9-10 other stoppages where time was .3 seconds off after a made basket in this game alone, to say nothing of the many other games tonight where it has happened and will happen. They'll get absolutely nowhere with this and set a terrible precedent. Its a horrible idea.

[Ramza]

http://knickstweets.net/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Paul-Pierce-Shot.jpg
wow, thanks didn't even notice that!

[Real Men Wear Green]

Even more evidence of the refs working for the Celtics!
What about the evidence on their pay stubs, that would point to them being employees of Madison Square Garden?

[WhySoInsecure?]

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/RoBByCaNoKiDD794/Photoon2010-12-15at2210.jpg

[DeronMillsap]

Clock running after a shot happens all the time. So it depends on when the Knicks called a timeout after that PP bucket.

[Derka]

What about the evidence on their pay stubs, that would point to them being employees of Madison Square Garden?

They feel like this makes the case for "more time means the Knicks win" automatically on its own merits, and their blind anger prevents them from seeing how wrong they are.

[Draz]

</3'ing lost.

[Sarcastic]

They're probably going to find 9-10 other stoppages where time was .3 seconds off after a made basket in this game alone, to say nothing of the many other games tonight where it has happened and will happen. They'll get absolutely nowhere with this and set a terrible precedent. Its a horrible idea.

Because those 9-10 other times are in games that come down literally to the last second.

[gts]

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/RoBByCaNoKiDD794/Photoon2010-12-15at2210.jpgthe clock doesn't stop until the knicks call a time out right? so what does the pic prove unless you have evidence the clock kept running after the knicks called time ou

[iDunk]

the clock doesn't stop until the knicks call a time out right? so what does the pic prove unless you have evidence the clock kept running after the knicks called time ou
:lol :lol

Comedian here.

You're saying the Knicks call a time out in .3 seconds after the ball went through?

Second of all that's not even how the time works in the last 2 minutes.

[XxSMSxX]

He didnt get it off in 0.4 seconds, unlike you last night

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[WhySoInsecure?]

the clock doesn't stop until the knicks call a time out right? so what does the pic prove unless you have evidence the clock kept running after the knicks called time ou
I can't believe there's more than one person on this board who actually thinks that's how things work.

In the final 2 minutes clock stops after every shot and refs can review anything to make sure the time is right.

[gts]

I can't believe there's more than one person on this board who actually thinks that's how things work.

In the final 2 minutes clock stops after every shot and refs can review anything to make sure the time is right.my mistake on that, forgot about the last 2 minutes of regulation... knicks coaches should have caught that too, i'm surprised they didn't usually the coaching staff has one coach assigned to that when a game is close... for the lakers it's brian shaw

[Derka]

Because those 9-10 other times are in games that come down literally to the last second.

Celtics could easily have scored another bucket in the time that was shaved off.

Dude just LET IT GO.

[FF1]

You think that the NBA would prefer the Knicks to lose after pumping this rivalry stuff for the last 24 hours?

[Draz]

what can be done here but having disappointment atttude towards each other and the match itself. lets just try moving on. we have miami this friday.

[AMISTILLILL]

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn65/RoBByCaNoKiDD794/Photoon2010-12-15at2210.jpg

Am I supposed to look at this thing in the mirror and say BLOODY MARY 10 times or something?

[gts]

Am I supposed to look at this thing in the mirror and say BLOODY MARY 10 times or something?turn your monitor around, it's all good then

[macpierce]

the knicks are the real deal though, however if amare could of rebounded on those 2 buckets by garnett then that could of been the ballgame, he needs to work on that

[AMISTILLILL]

http://www.bouncemag.com/wp-content/Shoe-York/spike.jpg

[Profound]

the knicks are the real deal though, however if amare could of rebounded on those 2 buckets by garnett then that could of been the ballgame, he needs to work on that
I don't know about real deal but they have greatly improved and should definitely get into the second round of the playoffs if they get the right match-up that is, as for them getting in the finals ehhhh I don't know. They played an under manned Celtics well which is another step into getting more confidence.

[B-Low]

He didnt get it off in 0.4 seconds, unlike you last night

:roll:

[IN-PAX-WE-TRUST]

Did you see how the clock started when he inbounded it? And besides, Kobe and Bron and them get lags on the clock when they inbound it.

Biased f()ckers

shut up... look at the replay you idiot. The clock started AFTER he touched the ball. Knicks lost.

STFU

[Draz]

http://www.bouncemag.com/wp-content/Shoe-York/spike.jpg
:oldlol: wonder who donald trump is going to fire after this game

[O_City_Thunder]

Am I supposed to look at this thing in the mirror and say BLOODY MARY 10 times or something?
:roll:

[Funnyfuka]

it's all roswell s fault. Those damn extra terestrians are fixing everything.

[knickscity]

the knicks are the real deal though, however if amare could of rebounded on those 2 buckets by garnett then that could of been the ballgame, he needs to work on that
He clearly anticpated the ball going toward the fron of the rim, it swirled back toward KG.

But none the less, the Knicks need a true Center.

The paint is far too open.

[Faberg]

He clearly was out of time. If he had .3 more secs on the clock he would've won the game. This thread isn't needed.

[Draz]

it was a game worth watching though, unlike our past hideous games.

[gts]

it was a game worth watching though, unlike our past hideous games.it was a great game and the knicks showed they are in the hunt this season...
knicks fans enjoy the ride you can't and won't win them all but the fact you have a team that is a threat to win any game they play is a good thing

[Harrison_Barnes]

He took way to long to shoot that.. they should have went for an inbound alley oop. :confusedshrug:

[KG215]

If we had .2 more on the clock we would've won this game.

Or if Gallo made alt least 2-3 of those free throws. Crazy how these things end up to bite you in the ass.


If Felton's prayer at the halftime buzzer doesn't go in and if Paul Pierce doesn't foul Felton on another prayer at the end of the third quarter, then Boston would have won easier.

See how easy that is?

[Patrick Chewing]

If Felton's prayer at the halftime buzzer doesn't go in and if Paul Pierce doesn't foul Felton on another prayer at the end of the third quarter, then Boston would have won easier.

See how easy that is?

It's not even that. It's a lot harder to make a basket, especially one from long range than to play defense. Boston is the best defensive team in the league, yet they allowed solid jumpers to be taken and had no answer for the slashing Amar'e.

Same goes for the Knicks. Too many open jumpers by Boston and not enough done in the paint to block out guys like Garnett and Davis.

This game should have and could have gone a different way, but instead we were witness to a lights out shooting display that didn't disappoint. Even after regulation. :D

[KG215]

It's not even that. It's a lot harder to make a basket, especially one from long range than to play defense. Boston is the best defensive team in the league, yet they allowed solid jumpers to be taken and had no answer for the slashing Amar'e.

Same goes for the Knicks. Too many open jumpers by Boston and not enough done in the paint to block out guys like Garnett and Davis.

This game should have and could have gone a different way, but instead we were witness to a lights out shooting display that didn't disappoint. Even after regulation. :D

I agree. I was just pointing out to him how easy it is to pick out just one or two plays in a close game and say "if this did or didn't happen we would have won".

Boston has been in several amazing games this year, but the offensive and shooting display both teams put on tonight was a thing of beauty. That was even better than their game against Chicago, Milwaukee, and Philly, IMO. Just because the ridiculous offensive zones both teams were in down the stretch.

[Thumdar]

I was surprised the Knicks didn't call a timeout when they made the stop on the Celtics second to last play. They just drove it down and let it rip, only to be denied. Of course the Celtics immediately called timeout and setup the play for Pierce.

Then, with .4 left the inbound pass was a bit behind Amare and then he took his sweet time.

Other than that it was totally rigged. :rolleyes: :violin: :blah

[sayitaintso]

Derek Fisher would have gotten it. He plays for the NB, Lakers.

[D.J.]

10 years ago, the call would have stood and the Knicks would have won.

[LMFAO]

Stop with the damn conspiracy theories ... they're whiny and annoying, honestly.
ya its not like the Lakers were given a lot more time in the same situation ...no wait....Derek Fisher, catches, turns around, sets then shoots, 0.4 called good Lakers advance again and the rating nightmare avoided ....nevermind, your right league has been caught fixing games before so would not exactly be something new would it.

[Patrick Chewing]

I wonder if D'Antoni talked to the refs about the time left on the clock. Didn't seem like it though.

[dab0yech0]

:wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Thank you for pissing me off even more now.

I'm gonna go rent a gun now.

If you do get one, Ill throw you some cash if you take out Donald Sterling for me

[LMFAO]

If you do get one, Ill throw you some cash if you take out Donald Sterling for me
Clipper fan's have my respect no doubt. To stick with a Sterling owned team is a testament to your loyalty.

[nashisbest]

he wasn't facing the basket when he caught it... that's the lesson learnt for him

that said, I wasn't sure if the play was designed for amare to hit a three pointer

[Harison]

He didnt get it off in 0.4 seconds, unlike you last night

So the Knicks time-keepers cheated for the Celtics? Interesting theory. (Actually it's not that interesting)
:oldlol:

[Yung D-Will]

He didnt get it off in 0.4 seconds, unlike you last night
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Apocalyptic0n3]

Why would a homecourt timekeeper be biased against a team the league desparately wants to win? If anything, they'd have started the clock after the shot went in the basket...

[3stat2]

Don't think anyone fixed anything, it was probably just an honest mistake of being too slow to stop the clock. 0.2s is roughly a human's reaction time to press a button, so maybe the timekeeper was tired or simply in disbelief. Granted, of all people, the timekeeper shouldn't be affected by what's going on in the game - but humans make mistakes.

It probably happens all the time. Just that this time it wound up potentially changing the game result, making it more obvious. Highly unlikely to have been a fixed game imo.

[nightprowler10]

He didnt get it off in 0.4 seconds, unlike you last night

http://files.sharenator.com/so_much_win_RE_amazing_Omegle_rick_roll-s517x600-48081-580.png

[bagelred]

I was surprised the Knicks didn't call a timeout when they made the stop on the Celtics second to last play. They just drove it down and let it rip, only to be denied. Of course the Celtics immediately called timeout and setup the play for Pierce.



This is part of MDA's strategy. He always does this. He has confidence in the offense to get into rhythm, and try to catch the defense off guard. If he calls a timeout, that just gives Celtics a chance to set up the defense properly.

MDA does that alot. It often works, but we just didn't convert that time.

[amsmelly]

ya its not like the Lakers were given a lot more time in the same situation ...no wait....Derek Fisher, catches, turns around, sets then shoots, 0.4 called good Lakers advance again and the rating nightmare avoided ....nevermind, your right league has been caught fixing games before so would not exactly be something new would it.
Wow, how smart you are, you spotted a conspiracy!:rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TdZHffwOF8

Now shut up and go **** yourself and stop talking out of your ass.

By the way, it's you're, not your...:facepalm

[LMFAO]

Wow, how smart you are, you spotted a conspiracy!:rolleyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3TdZHffwOF8

Now shut up and go **** yourself and stop talking out of your ass.

By the way, it's you're, not your...:facepalm
So you want to run last nights shot next to that one and tell me Fisher did not take LONGER than Ama're did last night. BTW if I wanted some old ***** giving out spelling lessons I would be on a spelling board. This one is basketball English teacher.

[heyhey]

This is part of MDA's strategy. He always does this. He has confidence in the offense to get into rhythm, and try to catch the defense off guard. If he calls a timeout, that just gives Celtics a chance to set up the defense properly.

MDA does that alot. It often works, but we just didn't convert that time.

samething phil jackson does alot. It's a good strategy. If you just look at numbers, teams score a lot easier off misses and rebounds on the fastbreak than in the halfcourt set after defense set up.

[amsmelly]

So you want to run last nights shot next to that one and tell me Fisher did not take LONGER than Ama're did last night. BTW if I wanted some old ***** giving out spelling lessons I would be on a spelling board. This one is basketball English teacher.
Of course Fisher didn't take longer. amare took his time to shoot: receive, set his feet, jump and release. You need to be either blind or stupidly biased not to see that. "Bu...bu... it's the Lakers, the NBA wants them to win!" Sure, and they're so good at it that they create dramatic situations where a role player scores the game winner with just a few tenths on the clock :applause:

This is certainly not a spelling board and we all make mistakes here but, in order to get some credibility, you may not want to come across as a complete illiterate. If you can't even spell basic sentences how the hell are we going to believe your stupid conspiracy theories?

[Sarcastic]

The reason Amar'e's took longer was that he received the ball on his hip, and had to pull the shot up, whereas Fisher received the ball high and just threw it as soon as he touched it.

[LMFAO]

The reason Amar'e's took longer was that he received the ball on his hip, and had to pull the shot up, whereas Fisher received the ball high and just threw it as soon as he touched it.
yawn what ever. Run them side by side.

[kentatm]

http://img.chan4chan.com/img/2010-08-02/1280722714336.jpg

[wigwan]

maybe the clock shoul have stop at 0.7, but if you look, they start the clock a few tenths of a second late. In the end, the 0.4 second were good.

It's called human reaction time.

[John Stockton]

I have no idea why they chose that play tho, as it's pretty much impossible to do that in 0.4 secs (if you're Amare that is)

[KG215]

So you want to run last nights shot next to that one and tell me Fisher did not take LONGER than Ama're did last night. BTW if I wanted some old ***** giving out spelling lessons I would be on a spelling board. This one is basketball English teacher.

I'd bet everything I own that Amare's Shot took longer. Fisher's shot may have taken longer than 0.4 seconds, but he still got his shot off quicker than Stoudemire. Only an idiot can't see the difference after watching the two shots.

[Paavo1234]

I agree that there is no way the Knicks' scorekeeper is going to rob the home team. The best thing about the Knicks' improvement is getting to see Spike Lee make a fool of himself on TV again