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L.Kizzle
12-19-2010, 02:31 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Boyz_n_the_hood_poster.jpg/220px-Boyz_n_the_hood_poster.jpg
Classic starring Ice Cube, Morris Chestnut and Cuba Gooding Jr released in 1991.

-or-

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/Menace_II_Society.JPG/220px-Menace_II_Society.JPG

Classic starring Larenz Tate, MC Eiht and Tyrin Turner (whatever happened to him?)


Hood comedy: Friday -vs- Don't Be a Menace: Who U Got? (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=200721)

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 02:36 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/c/c3/Boyz_n_the_hood_poster.jpg/220px-Boyz_n_the_hood_poster.jpg
Classic starring Ice Cube, Morris Chestnut and Cuba Gooding Jr released in 1991.

-or-

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/0/07/Menace_II_Society.JPG/220px-Menace_II_Society.JPG

Classic starring Larenz Tate, MC Eiht and Tyrin Turner (whatever happened to him?)


Hood comedy: Friday -vs- Don't Be a Menace: Who U Got? (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=200721)


The whole west coast hood movie thing was cool back then (we snuck into Menace SO many times, lol) but now that I look back on it they were kinda wack because of the way all the suburban kids took them and ran with them.

If I had to choose I'd probably choose Boys in the Hood because the film had better actors and Furious actually metered out a decent message.

Friday is FAR superior to Don't Be A Menace which was a hack job.

DeronMillsap
12-19-2010, 02:41 AM
Boyz N the Hood, hands down. It felt more realistic.

CMsam
12-19-2010, 02:44 AM
boyz n the hood was aight but not great

menace 2 society i hardly remember, i'll have to watch it again some time. or not.

IcanzIIravor
12-19-2010, 02:44 AM
Boyz N The Hood, but I love them both.

GhostDeini32
12-19-2010, 02:45 AM
Furious Styles. Best black role model ever.

Styles p
12-19-2010, 02:55 AM
boyz n the hood

Jackass18
12-19-2010, 03:04 AM
Menace was clearly superior.

GhostDeini32
12-19-2010, 03:09 AM
Menace was clearly superior.

i call bullshit.

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 03:14 AM
MC8 and Tyrin Taylor aren't good actors at all.

Look at the two casts and you can see which film is superior really, lol.

L.Kizzle
12-19-2010, 03:19 AM
MC8 and Tyrin Taylor aren't good actors at all.

Look at the two casts and you can see which film is superior really, lol.
Off the main three actors in each film, it was basically their first film give or take a few TV roles for Tate. f you look at their career after these films, than yeah Boyz N The Hood bu at the time, they were all beginners in this thing called movie production.

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 03:25 AM
Off the main three actors in each film, it was basically their first film give or take a few TV roles for Tate. f you look at their career after these films, than yeah Boyz N The Hood bu at the time, they were all beginners in this thing called movie production.


Cuba Gooding and Morris Chestnut and Nia Long all had acting experience (and of course Larry Fish) before BNTH....one might be able to argue that they each had EXTENSIVE thespian training.

L.Kizzle
12-19-2010, 03:26 AM
Cuba Gooding and Morris Chestnut and Nia Long all had acting experience (and of course Larry Fish) before BNTH....one might be able to argue that they each had EXTENSIVE thespian training.
True, but same can be said for Jada, Larenz Tate and Clifton Powell.

GhostDeini32
12-19-2010, 03:27 AM
well,to me, its close but not as close as some of you portray.

Boyz N the Hood should be the majority opinion, I would hope.

Stuckey
12-19-2010, 03:30 AM
dont be a menace to society > both

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 03:36 AM
True, but same can be said for Jada, Larenz Tate and Clifton Powell.
I'm not arguing that I'm just saying I thought the actors/acting in BNTH was better.

Kane's character seemed hollow and contrived to me.

Gundress
12-19-2010, 04:00 AM
I love both movies but I am going with BoyZ N The Hood.

I didn't realize that Boyz N The Hood was about Blood vs Crip when I was kid because John Singleton said in the interview. Cube was crip.

Pac was supposed to play O-Dog in Menace II Society but Pac was hitting one of Hughes brother in the face.

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 04:08 AM
I love both movies but I am going with BoyZ N The Hood.

I didn't realize that Boyz N The Hood was about Blood vs Crip when I was kid because John Singleton said in the interview. Cube was crip.

Pac was supposed to play O-Dog in Menace II Society but Pac was hitting one of Hughes brother in the face.
I mean he could say that after the fact but in reality the movie gave no insight on Bloods and Crips.

The Gheri Curl guy that Cube killed was wearing read alot, and he and Cube were rivals, but I never heard any key words that would have signified each gang.

No:

"Cuz"
"My nerve"
"C-day"
"Crip Walk"
etc...

I guess leaving it bland and non descriptive helped sell more tickets though.

EarlTheGoat
12-19-2010, 04:13 AM
I liked and watched both movies.


But if the point was "making the young black population acknowledge their situation and try to change it" they absolutely failed or lied.

Young wannabe gangstas actually try to imitate guys like "O-dog" these days.

Gundress
12-19-2010, 04:14 AM
I mean he could say that after the fact but in reality the movie gave no insight on Bloods and Crips.

The Gheri Curl guy that Cube killed was wearing read alot, and he and Cube were rivals, but I never heard any key words that would have signified each gang.

No:

"Cuz"
"My nerve"
"C-day"
"Crip Walk"
etc...

I guess leaving it bland and non descriptive helped sell more tickets though.

Cube actually said "Cuz" in that movie.

His car rock blue and he wears blue. Tre (Cuba Gooding Jr) car rock blue

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 04:23 AM
Cube actually said "Cuz" in that movie.

His car rock blue and he wears blue. Tre (Cuba Gooding Jr) car rock blue


I forgot about that. I thought Cuba rode a yellow slug bug.

Hey, I've been wrong before.

At any rate I still don't think it's accurate to say the film was about bloods and crips when they barely scratched the surface of the culture.

EarlTheGoat
12-19-2010, 04:25 AM
I forgot about that. I thought Cuba rode a yellow slug bug.

Hey, I've been wrong before.

At any rate I still don't think it's accurate to say the film was about bloods and crips when they barely scratched the surface of the culture.


The movie was about gang violence, doesnt matter if its called bloods/crips, greens or whatever.

EarlTheGoat
12-19-2010, 04:30 AM
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I don't really think it was about certain gangs anyway. It was bigger than that.


Of course, it was not only about gangs, but also some human drama and character development and "criticize to the system" was involved.

Mr. Grieves
12-19-2010, 04:31 AM
Boyz N The Hood.

That movie is actually an all time classic and can be enjoyed years far down the road.

Gundress
12-19-2010, 04:31 AM
I forgot about that. I thought Cuba rode a yellow slug bug.

Hey, I've been wrong before.

At any rate I still don't think it's accurate to say the film was about bloods and crips when they barely scratched the surface of the culture.


In the movie they weren't throwing signs nor where they claiming to be blood or crips....John Singleton kinda made it subliminal and if u weren't familiar with the terms or colors like I was then u didn't catch because we're not from Cali.

The cats who shot Ricky were in Red;

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 04:32 AM
The movie was about gang violence, doesnt matter if its called bloods/crips, greens or whatever.


I know it was about gang violence but, if yo uwere following why i said what i said, the director said it was about bloods and crips....I thik that statement is inaccurate because they didn't touch on why the gangs originated, showed little about their daily operations, and had few references (that I can remember).

I agree it was about gang violence but it was about a little more than that as well.

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 04:34 AM
In the movie they weren't throwing signs nor where they claiming to be blood or crips....John Singleton kinda made it subliminal and if u weren't familiar with the terms or colors like I was then u didn't catch because we're not from Cali.

The cats who shot Ricky were in Red;


I know what a gang sign is (&how to spot it) and i know what you mean by underlying messages and whatnot I'm just saying i disagree with his rhetoric. I don't think you can halfway tackle a subject like that then say the movie was about those two specific gangs.

I would say it was about gun/gang violence/ignorance in the inner city/gentrification, etc...

Gundress
12-19-2010, 04:41 AM
http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/9136/boyznthehood1991dvdripx.jpg

I don't really think it was about certain gangs anyway. It was bigger than that.


LOL....thats not what John Singleton said.

Gundress
12-19-2010, 04:49 AM
I know what a gang sign is (&how to spot it) and i know what you mean by underlying messages and whatnot I'm just saying i disagree with his rhetoric. I don't think you can halfway tackle a subject like that then say the movie was about those two specific gangs.

I would say it was about gun/gang violence/ignorance in the inner city/gentrification, etc...


Right, my whole point is that I didn't catch that movie have blood vs crip in it. Now the movie COLORS, yes that was about Bloods, Crips and the Police in the area. Boyz In The Hood was about.....BOYZ IN THE HOOD!!! One of the main characters was trying to get out of the hood and go to college.

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 04:54 AM
Right, my whole point is that I didn't catch that movie have blood vs crip in it. Now the movie COLORS, yes that was about Bloods, Crips and the Police in the area. Boyz In The Hood was about.....BOYZ IN THE HOOD!!! One of the main characters was trying to get out of the hood and go to college.


Wait-a-minute I do remember the hating ass cop asking him if he was one of those Rolling 60's or something....so yeah, I do remember it being tied to gangs, but the two main characters (Cuba and Morris) were going to college and/or the military like you said.

I really think that the directors knew that (at that time) this movie would draw a lot of attention and that there would be a lot of fighting and acting bad at the theatres so they toned down the gang references a bit.

I forget if it was this movie or New Jack City where this guy (in Chicago) shot up the movie theatre. At any rate, after a movie like this the goons always act bad.

Gundress
12-19-2010, 05:05 AM
Wait-a-minute I do remember the hating ass cop asking him if he was one of those Rolling 60's or something....so yeah, I do remember it being tied to gangs, but the two main characters (Cuba and Morris) were going to college and/or the military like you said.

I really think that the directors knew that (at that time) this movie would draw a lot of attention and that there would be a lot of fighting and acting bad at the theatres so they toned down the gang references a bit.

I forget if it was this movie or New Jack City where this guy (in Chicago) shot up the movie theatre. At any rate, after a movie like this the goons always act bad.


Tre wanna go to college and get out of the hood, Rick wanna go to military and don't wanna be like his brother like Cube but Tre didn't want Rick go to military because a black man have no place go to military.

If it doesn't have anything to do with Bloods and Crips then why did Cube give that speech about "how they don't know whats going on in the hood?".

When Cube said that I was assuming he was refering to the gang violence....yes we all know that Tre and Rick weren't gang affiliated....But the movie did center around gang activities and how it affected Tre and Rick.

Rick died because of what?....

Go Getter
12-19-2010, 05:39 AM
Tre wanna go to college and get out of the hood, Rick wanna go to military and don't wanna be like his brother like Cube but Tre didn't want Rick go to military because a black man have no place go to military.

If it doesn't have anything to do with Bloods and Crips then why did Cube give that speech about "how they don't know whats going on in the hood?".

When Cube said that I was assuming he was refering to the gang violence....yes we all know that Tre and Rick weren't gang affiliated....But the movie did center around gang activities and how it affected Tre and Rick.

Rick died because of what?....


I agree that it was a good movie about gang violence...if it was about the bloods and crips though I would have to change my rating because I learned very little (specifically) about those gangs from the movie.

That's all I'm saying.

Gundress
12-19-2010, 06:27 PM
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Sarcastic
12-19-2010, 06:36 PM
Menace II Society was much better.

GOBB
12-19-2010, 06:45 PM
Menace 2 Society.

GOBB
12-19-2010, 06:56 PM
If Boyz N Da Hood was about bloods and crips? It did a terrible job exposing it. Gang violence appeared to be the theme moreso than isolating two gangs popular in Cali.

mrpuente
12-19-2010, 08:50 PM
menace 2 society was better imo....

better quotes..."who got da snaps on the petro?":oldlol:

zay_24
12-19-2010, 11:14 PM
Boyz N The Hood had a better storyline.

Both movies were based in different parts of south central and did a good job showing it.

Boyz N The hood= places like Crenshaw, Dena, compton etc...

Menace= Inglewood, Watts, Long Beach, the more wild places if you will.

And Boyz n The hood wasnt about crips n bloods, tho it did have crips n bloods in the movie.

scene:

*Red Car drives around the corner*

Monster: "If that muthafukka roll up on the SET one mo time ima blast his ass"

Obviously dudes who shot Ricky were bloods, and doughboy and them were in crips.

leopoldstotch
12-19-2010, 11:21 PM
i like menace II society, but boyz n the hood is up there for me. the last 15 minutes of the movie really gets to me all the time. the turn of events between both sides, and the outcome of the situations.

and yes. furious styles ftw. the guy really tried his hardest to set his son the right direction.

Rasheed1
04-27-2011, 11:01 AM
Menace II society was Better

I heard 2pac was supposed to be Odog... now that sh*t would have been even better

LJJ
04-27-2011, 11:28 AM
Both of these movies are campy as hell.

Kensta
04-27-2011, 12:04 PM
Menace II Society was better.

"What you say about my momma?"

wheyhigh
04-27-2011, 01:00 PM
Boyz n the Hood easily.

Great movie.
/endthread mother****er
it had great actors and a great message. menace is a movie you watch when you're high/

Rasheed1
04-27-2011, 01:32 PM
Menace II Society was better.

"What you say about my momma?"

Menace had it all

I hadnt watched it in years and I sat down recently and watched it again.. The sh*t was soo violent, I was kinda shocked

but it also had the best quotes and the same messages that Boyz in the hood had except they expanded everything more

Also, I was disappointed in Higher Learning because that movie couldve been as good but it never lived up to potential.. It was too Black vs. White without the proper reasoning being laid out