It just hit me, Kevin Durant will win more scoring titles than Michael Jordan.

[Birmingham1955]

KD already has 1 in his belt. No challengers this year, so he is looking at 2 scoring titles already at the age of 22.

[Miserio]

He will... or maybe he wont. He could die in a car crash

[Roundball_Rock]

KD already has 1 in his belt. No challengers this year, so he is looking at 2 scoring titles already at the age of 22.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1SQ2ZrItxOQ/TMq9JPJJVKI/AAAAAAAAAFc/2BT_AbHW4Yk/s1600/dailynewsamare.jpg

Overall: Durant 27.4, Amare 26.5
Last ten: Amare 32.0, Durant 27.6

[Birmingham1955]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1SQ2ZrItxOQ/TMq9JPJJVKI/AAAAAAAAAFc/2BT_AbHW4Yk/s1600/dailynewsamare.jpg

Overall: Durant 27.4, Amare 26.5
Last ten: Amare 32.0, Durant 27.6


If Amare is his best challenger it is safe to say he has no challengers, especially with Westbrook not playing as well as he did in the beginning of the season.

[50inchvertical]

Durant has been passing a lot more, and a lot better lately plus we keep beating teams where he doesn't have to play 40 minutes.

[YouCallILose]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1SQ2ZrItxOQ/TMq9JPJJVKI/AAAAAAAAAFc/2BT_AbHW4Yk/s1600/dailynewsamare.jpg

Overall: Durant 27.4, Amare 26.5
Last ten: Amare 32.0, Durant 27.6
durant is averaging 28 a game and hes been slumping. he will be at 30 ppg by seasons end without question. amare has no shot, none.

i honestly dont see anyone who will challenge 30 ppg in the next 5 years aside from durant with lebron & wade in miami

also i would love to hear the haters on durant's passing game, the guy is a legitimately good passer now

[Batz]

durant is averaging 28 a game and hes been slumping. he will be at 30 ppg by seasons end without question.

Per 40?

[NYCgimmeBron]

durant is averaging 28 a game and hes been slumping. he will be at 30 ppg by seasons end without question. amare has no shot, none.

i honestly dont see anyone who will challenge 30 ppg in the next 5 years aside from durant with lebron & wade in miami

also i would love to hear the haters on durant's passing game, the guy is a legitimately good passer now

sup,



lloyd christmas.. lady wants her suitcase back

[StillKill24]

It just hit me, Kevin Durant will average more turnovers than assists for his whole career.

[NYCgimmeBron]

It just hit me, Kevin Durant will average more turnovers than assists for his whole career.
:lol
insert 26% from 3pt land.

[Collie]

MJ won ten scoring titles. TEN. That includes some seasons in his mid 30's, so unless you think Durant has MJ longevity and will win every scoring title this next decade, I don't see it happening.

[YouCallILose]

MJ won ten scoring titles. TEN. That includes some seasons in his mid 30's, so unless you think Durant has MJ longevity and will win every scoring title this next decade, I don't see it happening.

Jordan was 22 during his rookie season. Durant turned 22 3 months ago and he's going to have 2 by the end of this season. Who do you see challenging him for the next 8-9 years? He could potentially have 10 scoring titles by age 31, compare that with Jordan who won #10 @ age 37

[Sarcastic]

Wilt Chamberlain won 7 scoring titles in his first 7 years, and still never got to 10.

It's a much harder task than you are making it out to be.

[Jasper]

iceman (gervin) Titles vs point titles :(which does he have most ?

[MrJohnWall]

If he want it he could easily do it, despite injury

But i dont think we will ever see a player as selfish as Jordan for a long time

[2010splash]

It just hit me, Kevin Durant will always shoot a low FG%, average a low assist total, and never lead a team to a single championship, let alone the 6 that Michael Jeff Jordan did.

[ThaRegul8r]

Wilt Chamberlain won 7 scoring titles in his first 7 years, and still never got to 10.

It has to be said that Wilt deliberately curtailed his scoring after that. So that's a disingenuous statement.

[ShaqAttack3234]

It has to be said that Wilt deliberately curtailed his scoring after that. So that's a disingenuous statement.

Yeah, he had averaged 33.5 ppg on over 25 shots per game in 1966, and 24.1 ppg in 1967, but on just over 14 shots per game. That right there should demonstrate the difference in his mindset.

Although the '67 scoring title wasn't a guarantee anyway, Barry averaged 35.6 ppg(more than Wilt did in '66 or '65), though Barry played in 78 games and Wilt played in 81(it was still an 81 game season in '67) so Wilt would've needed to average 34.2 ppg to match Barry's 2775 points(scoring titles were awarded to the player with the most total points pre-1970). Definitely plausible, but had Wilt had his '66 mindset rather than his '67 mindset, it would've been close.

'68 would have been easier with Barry going to the ABA. Oscar led the league in ppg with 29.2, but he played just 65 games so Dave Bing won the scoring title with 2142 points. Wilt would've needed to average 26.1 ppg to match that, well within reach for him considering he had a 68 point game earlier in that season.

'69 would have been tough for the simple reason that his coach made him the 3rd option offensively. Elvin Hayes led the league that year with 2327 points, Wilt would've needed 28.7 ppg, definitely possible considering he had a 66 point game and a 60 point game that year, but as a center you need to get the ball from the perimeter players, so I guess his coach making him the 3rd option prevented that.

1970 was when he injured his knee so that effectively ended his chances at scoring titles particularly with younger players such as Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Tiny Archibald putting up huge scoring numbers the next 3 seasons.

IMO, the '68 scoring title would've been a lock for Wilt had he had his mindset from earlier years, '67 would've been possible and '69 would've had his coach made him the first option, though playing with West and Baylor, it still might've been a stretch regardless of whether he was the first option.

[catch24]

No, he won't.

[Sarcastic]

It has to be said that Wilt deliberately curtailed his scoring after that. So that's a disingenuous statement.

My point wasn't to say that Wilt couldn't do it. It was to show how hard it is to do.

I know Wilt changed his game. Perhaps Durant will as well. Maybe he will play alongside a Big 3 later on in his career, and change his game. Point is, we don't know.

[O_City_Thunder]

If he want it he could easily do it, despite injury

But i dont think we will ever see a player as selfish as Jordan for a long time
:oldlol:

[SinJackal]

i dont think we will ever see a player as selfish as Jordan for a long time

Points to assists ratio:

Jordan: 5.7/1

Durant: 9.4/1


FGAs to assists ratio:

Jordan: 4.3/1

Durant: 7/1

[YouCallILose]

It just hit me, Kevin Durant will always shoot a low FG%, average a low assist total, and never lead a team to a single championship, let alone the 6 that Michael Jeff Jordan did.

Durant eFG% in year 2-51.0 %
Durant eFG% in year 3-51.4 %

Jordan eFG% in year 2 46.2 %
Jordan eFG% in year 3 48.4 %

Jordan was a SG I would hope he would average more assists than Durant...also lol @ bringing up titles. How many did Jordan have from 19-21? he was still screwing around with college kids

[OldSchoolBBall]

Yeah, he had averaged 33.5 ppg on over 25 shots per game in 1966, and 24.1 ppg in 1967, but on just over 14 shots per game. That right there should demonstrate the difference in his mindset.

Although the '67 scoring title wasn't a guarantee anyway, Barry averaged 35.6 ppg(more than Wilt did in '66 or '65), though Barry played in 78 games and Wilt played in 81(it was still an 81 game season in '67) so Wilt would've needed to average 34.2 ppg to match Barry's 2775 points(scoring titles were awarded to the player with the most total points pre-1970). Definitely plausible, but had Wilt had his '66 mindset rather than his '67 mindset, it would've been close.

'68 would have been easier with Barry going to the ABA. Oscar led the league in ppg with 29.2, but he played just 65 games so Dave Bing won the scoring title with 2142 points. Wilt would've needed to average 26.1 ppg to match that, well within reach for him considering he had a 68 point game earlier in that season.

'69 would have been tough for the simple reason that his coach made him the 3rd option offensively. Elvin Hayes led the league that year with 2327 points, Wilt would've needed 28.7 ppg, definitely possible considering he had a 66 point game and a 60 point game that year, but as a center you need to get the ball from the perimeter players, so I guess his coach making him the 3rd option prevented that.

1970 was when he injured his knee so that effectively ended his chances at scoring titles particularly with younger players such as Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Tiny Archibald putting up huge scoring numbers the next 3 seasons.

IMO, the '68 scoring title would've been a lock for Wilt had he had his mindset from earlier years, '67 would've been possible and '69 would've had his coach made him the first option, though playing with West and Baylor, it still might've been a stretch regardless of whether he was the first option.

Scoring titles are based on ppg, not total points; all you need is to play in the qualifying number of games or score a qualifying number of points (I forget which). So total points is irrelevant once you pass a certain threshold I believe. For instance, in the example you cite, Wilt would have had to actually average more than Barry's 35.6 ppg to win the scoring title that year.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Scoring titles are based on ppg, not total points; all you need is to play in the qualifying number of games or score a qualifying number of points (I forget which). So total points is irrelevant once you pass a certain threshold I believe. For instance, in the example you cite, Wilt would have had to actually average more than Barry's 35.6 ppg to win the scoring title that year.

I'm talking about prior to the 1969-1970 season, that's when they changed it to ppg instead of total points.

[OldSchoolBBall]

I'm talking about prior to the 1969-1970 season, that's when they changed it to ppg instead of total points.

Wow, never knew it was determined differently than ppg. Thanks for the info.

[juju151111]

Durant eFG% in year 2-51.0 %
Durant eFG% in year 3-51.4 %

Jordan eFG% in year 2 46.2 %
Jordan eFG% in year 3 48.4 %

Jordan was a SG I would hope he would average more assists than Durant...also lol @ bringing up titles. How many did Jordan have from 19-21? he was still screwing around with college kids
so wat i am getting from your sats is KD>>MJ

[YouCallILose]

so wat i am getting from your sats is KD>>MJ

I never said that. But Durant's ability to score last year in the regular season was every bit as good as prime Jordan's ability to score in the regular season

[Sarcastic]

Durant eFG% in year 2-51.0 %
Durant eFG% in year 3-51.4 %

Jordan eFG% in year 2 46.2 %
Jordan eFG% in year 3 48.4 %

Jordan was a SG I would hope he would average more assists than Durant...also lol @ bringing up titles. How many did Jordan have from 19-21? he was still screwing around with college kids

This is not a fair comparison because in Jordan's second year he was injured and played less than 20 games.

[LJJ]

Damn are some people really stupid to the point where they think nothing in the NBA will change for the next 8 years?

[OmniStrife]

Like anyone gives a shit about scoring titles... AI, had some too, so what?

[RoseCity07]

Where did scoring titles get Iverson and McGrady? Hell, where has it gotten Lebron James?

Will Durant ever be the kind of guy to do everything for his team to win, and not just be useless when he isn't scoring.

[bluechox2]

amare is just a point behind durant. and we have a long season ahead of us.

[2010splash]

Durant eFG% in year 2-51.0 %
Durant eFG% in year 3-51.4 %

Jordan eFG% in year 2 46.2 %
Jordan eFG% in year 3 48.4 %

Jordan was a SG I would hope he would average more assists than Durant...also lol @ bringing up titles. How many did Jordan have from 19-21? he was still screwing around with college kids
"eFG%"?:roll: :oldlol:

Do you even have a clue what the "e" stands for in the stat? Why do people insist on bringing up these useless "advanced stats" in player comparisons.

Kevin Durant will never pass Dirk Nowitzki all time, never mind Jordan.

[az00m]

If he want it he could easily do it, despite injury

But i dont think we will ever see a player as selfish as Jordan for a long time

Selfish... His first few years hah. He at least the guy had 7 assist a game. Durant has more turn overs than assist a game. Plus jordan shot 50% durant shoots like 42

[az00m]

My point wasn't to say that Wilt couldn't do it. It was to show how hard it is to do.

I know Wilt changed his game. Perhaps Durant will as well. Maybe he will play alongside a Big 3 later on in his career, and change his game. Point is, we don't know.

Wilt said if people were going to make such a big deal about it he would of locked that record away.

And I have no doubts about that.

[ShaqAttack3234]

I never said that. But Durant's ability to score last year in the regular season was every bit as good as prime Jordan's ability to score in the regular season

No, since your entire argument is based on stats, I'll only use those to disprove this statement.

Jordan
1987- 37.1 ppg, 48.2 FG%, 48.4 eFG%, 56.2 TS%
1988- 35.0 ppg, 53.5 FG%, 53.7 eFG%, 60.3 TS%
1989- 32.5 ppg, 53.8 FG%, 54.6 eFG%, 61.4 TS%
1990- 33.6 ppg, 52.6 FG%, 55.0 eFG%, 60.6 TS%
1991- 31.5 ppg, 53.9 FG%, 54.6 eFG%, 60.5 TS%
1992- 30.1 ppg, 51.9 FG%, 52.6 eFG%, 57.9 TS%
1993- 32.6 ppg, 49.5 FG%, 51.5 eFG%, 56.4 TS%
1996- 30.4 ppg, 49.5 FG%, 52.5 eFG%, 58.2 TS%

Durant
2010- 30.1 ppg, 47.6 FG%, 51.4 eFG%, 60.7 TS%

Jordan's lowest scoring season from '87-'96(excluding '95 for obvious reasons) was equal to Durant's 30.1 ppg. Jordan's FG% was higher than Durant's in every season, Jordan's eFG% was superior in all but one season(basically equal in '93) and his TS% was superior in '89 while scoring an additional 2.4 ppg, not to mention his TS% in '88 with an extra 4.9 ppg, '90 with an extra 3.5 ppg and '91 with an extra 1.4 ppg were still for all purposes identical.

Talking stats, there's simply no way to justify Durant's '10 scoring season being equal to Jordan's '88, '89, '90 and '91 seasons.

And in '81, despite Jordan's eFG% and TS% being significantly lower than Durant's in '10, he averaged an extra 7 ppg so such a huge difference in the volume of shots and points scored makes it very tough to compare efficiency.

If you just go by ppg and TS% and nothing else, then you could say Durant's '10 season was better from a scoring standpoint than '92 and '96 Jordan, and probably '93 Jordan.

But then if you still factor in FG% and eFG% that becomes harder.

Of course this is all excluding the playoffs and purely from a statistical standpoint which doesn't include clutch scoring, versatility and consistency.

So again, even going by the criteria of just ppg and TS%, your statement is false because '88-'91 Jordan still comes out on top. Particularly '88-'90 when the difference in scoring average was bigger and TS% was virtually identical.

[KingBeasley08]

No, since your entire argument is based on stats, I'll only use those to disprove this statement.

Jordan
1987- 37.1 ppg, 48.2 FG%, 48.4 eFG%, 56.2 TS%
1988- 35.0 ppg, 53.5 FG%, 53.7 eFG%, 60.3 TS%
1989- 32.5 ppg, 53.8 FG%, 54.6 eFG%, 61.4 TS%
1990- 33.6 ppg, 52.6 FG%, 55.0 eFG%, 60.6 TS%
1991- 31.5 ppg, 53.9 FG%, 54.6 eFG%, 60.5 TS%
1992- 30.1 ppg, 51.9 FG%, 52.6 eFG%, 57.9 TS%
1993- 32.6 ppg, 49.5 FG%, 51.5 eFG%, 56.4 TS%
1996- 30.4 ppg, 49.5 FG%, 52.5 eFG%, 58.2 TS%

Durant
2010- 30.1 ppg, 47.6 FG%, 51.4 eFG%, 60.7 TS%

Jordan's lowest scoring season from '87-'96(excluding '95 for obvious reasons) was equal to Durant's 30.1 ppg. Jordan's FG% was higher than Durant's in every season, Jordan's eFG% was superior in all but one season(basically equal in '93) and his TS% was superior in '89 while scoring an additional 2.4 ppg, not to mention his TS% in '88 with an extra 4.9 ppg, '90 with an extra 3.5 ppg and '91 with an extra 1.4 ppg were still for all purposes identical.

Talking stats, there's simply no way to justify Durant's '10 scoring season being equal to Jordan's '88, '89, '90 and '91 seasons.

And in '81, despite Jordan's eFG% and TS% being significantly lower than Durant's in '10, he averaged an extra 7 ppg so such a huge difference in the volume of shots and points scored makes it very tough to compare efficiency.

If you just go by ppg and TS% and nothing else, then you could say Durant's '10 season was better from a scoring standpoint than '92 and '96 Jordan, and probably '93 Jordan.

But then if you still factor in FG% and eFG% that becomes harder.

Of course this is all excluding the playoffs and purely from a statistical standpoint which doesn't include clutch scoring, versatility and consistency.

So again, even going by the criteria of just ppg and TS%, your statement is false because '88-'91 Jordan still comes out on top. Particularly '88-'90 when the difference in scoring average was bigger and TS% was virtually identical.
this.
bye bye joyner.

[OldSchoolBBall]

No, since your entire argument is based on stats, I'll only use those to disprove this statement.

Jordan
1987- 37.1 ppg, 48.2 FG%, 48.4 eFG%, 56.2 TS%
1988- 35.0 ppg, 53.5 FG%, 53.7 eFG%, 60.3 TS%
1989- 32.5 ppg, 53.8 FG%, 54.6 eFG%, 61.4 TS%
1990- 33.6 ppg, 52.6 FG%, 55.0 eFG%, 60.6 TS%
1991- 31.5 ppg, 53.9 FG%, 54.6 eFG%, 60.5 TS%
1992- 30.1 ppg, 51.9 FG%, 52.6 eFG%, 57.9 TS%
1993- 32.6 ppg, 49.5 FG%, 51.5 eFG%, 56.4 TS%
1996- 30.4 ppg, 49.5 FG%, 52.5 eFG%, 58.2 TS%

Durant
2010- 30.1 ppg, 47.6 FG%, 51.4 eFG%, 60.7 TS%

Jordan's lowest scoring season from '87-'96(excluding '95 for obvious reasons) was equal to Durant's 30.1 ppg. Jordan's FG% was higher than Durant's in every season, Jordan's eFG% was superior in all but one season(basically equal in '93) and his TS% was superior in '89 while scoring an additional 2.4 ppg, not to mention his TS% in '88 with an extra 4.9 ppg, '90 with an extra 3.5 ppg and '91 with an extra 1.4 ppg were still for all purposes identical.

Talking stats, there's simply no way to justify Durant's '10 scoring season being equal to Jordan's '88, '89, '90 and '91 seasons.

And in '81, despite Jordan's eFG% and TS% being significantly lower than Durant's in '10, he averaged an extra 7 ppg so such a huge difference in the volume of shots and points scored makes it very tough to compare efficiency.

If you just go by ppg and TS% and nothing else, then you could say Durant's '10 season was better from a scoring standpoint than '92 and '96 Jordan, and probably '93 Jordan.

But then if you still factor in FG% and eFG% that becomes harder.

Of course this is all excluding the playoffs and purely from a statistical standpoint which doesn't include clutch scoring, versatility and consistency.

So again, even going by the criteria of just ppg and TS%, your statement is false because '88-'91 Jordan still comes out on top. Particularly '88-'90 when the difference in scoring average was bigger and TS% was virtually identical.

Plus, Durant's TS% would be nowhere near what it is today back in the late 80's/early 90's because he wouldn't be gifted all these FTA's.

[Burgz]

i love these hypothetical scenarios people come up with

it's almost as entertaining as people taking them serious

[YouCallILose]

No, since your entire argument is based on stats, I'll only use those to disprove this statement.

Jordan
1987- 37.1 ppg, 48.2 FG%, 48.4 eFG%, 56.2 TS%
1988- 35.0 ppg, 53.5 FG%, 53.7 eFG%, 60.3 TS%
1989- 32.5 ppg, 53.8 FG%, 54.6 eFG%, 61.4 TS%
1990- 33.6 ppg, 52.6 FG%, 55.0 eFG%, 60.6 TS%
1991- 31.5 ppg, 53.9 FG%, 54.6 eFG%, 60.5 TS%
1992- 30.1 ppg, 51.9 FG%, 52.6 eFG%, 57.9 TS%
1993- 32.6 ppg, 49.5 FG%, 51.5 eFG%, 56.4 TS%
1996- 30.4 ppg, 49.5 FG%, 52.5 eFG%, 58.2 TS%

Durant
2010- 30.1 ppg, 47.6 FG%, 51.4 eFG%, 60.7 TS%

Jordan's lowest scoring season from '87-'96(excluding '95 for obvious reasons) was equal to Durant's 30.1 ppg. Jordan's FG% was higher than Durant's in every season, Jordan's eFG% was superior in all but one season(basically equal in '93) and his TS% was superior in '89 while scoring an additional 2.4 ppg, not to mention his TS% in '88 with an extra 4.9 ppg, '90 with an extra 3.5 ppg and '91 with an extra 1.4 ppg were still for all purposes identical.

Talking stats, there's simply no way to justify Durant's '10 scoring season being equal to Jordan's '88, '89, '90 and '91 seasons.

And in '81, despite Jordan's eFG% and TS% being significantly lower than Durant's in '10, he averaged an extra 7 ppg so such a huge difference in the volume of shots and points scored makes it very tough to compare efficiency.

If you just go by ppg and TS% and nothing else, then you could say Durant's '10 season was better from a scoring standpoint than '92 and '96 Jordan, and probably '93 Jordan.

But then if you still factor in FG% and eFG% that becomes harder.

Of course this is all excluding the playoffs and purely from a statistical standpoint which doesn't include clutch scoring, versatility and consistency.

So again, even going by the criteria of just ppg and TS%, your statement is false because '88-'91 Jordan still comes out on top. Particularly '88-'90 when the difference in scoring average was bigger and TS% was virtually identical.

Just out of curiosity, why do you list FG% and not 3P/FT%? Why not list 3 pointers made? Or total FGA?

If you're going to break it down, list every stat.

Facts are Durant was just as efficient as prime Jordan at his best, Jordan was just taking 2 more shots a game.

[Leviathon1121]

I never said that. But Durant's ability to score last year in the regular season was every bit as good as prime Jordan's ability to score in the regular season

Wrong.

Durant has the ability to put up lower PPG on similar efficiency, and nothing he has ever done in his career has shown otherwise.

You saying his ability to score was equal to Jordan's is just absurd.

[jstern]

It just hit me how hard it would be to break this record. You kind of have to be a career 33+ ppg game career scorer to really say that with certainty, since the future is so unpredictable. Just so many more factors that you have to consider and relate to each other, rather than just looking at things as simple as 21 years old < 22 years old. I mean he could break it, but it just seems so hard.

Imagine Jordan's legacy if he decided not to retire for that year and a half. 2 more scoring titles right there, over 4,000 more career points, higher career ppg.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Just out of curiosity, why do you list FG% and not 3P/FT%? Why not list 3 pointers made? Or total FGA?

If you're going to break it down, list every stat.

Facts are Durant was just as efficient as prime Jordan at his best, Jordan was just taking 2 more shots a game.

Uh, I listed eFG% which accounts for 3s and TS% which accounts for 3s and free throws.

Durant's TS% last year in the regular season was equal to prime Jordan, except for the fact that Jordan maintained that while scoring as much as an additional 4.9 ppg on an equal TS% in '88, an additional 2.4 ppg in '89 on a 61+ TS%, an additional 3.5 ppg on an equal TS% in '90 and an additional 1.4 ppg on an equal TS% in '91.

Generally you're efficiency will drop with a higher volume of shots, so no, Durant's 2010 regular season was not equal from a scoring standpoint to '88-'91 Jordan, not statistically, and certainly not if we break it down further, but that's more subjective. Regardless, you're wrong, even with your own logic, '88-'91 regular season Jordan>>>2010 regular season Durant as a scorer.

You seem to be assuming that if Durant takes more shots his efficiency will remain the same. Sorry, but it doesn't work like that.

[hkfosho]

can we all stop talking about these %%%? Durant is bad, he will never surpass MJ in scoring titles.

/thread

[jlauber]

Yeah, he had averaged 33.5 ppg on over 25 shots per game in 1966, and 24.1 ppg in 1967, but on just over 14 shots per game. That right there should demonstrate the difference in his mindset.

Although the '67 scoring title wasn't a guarantee anyway, Barry averaged 35.6 ppg(more than Wilt did in '66 or '65), though Barry played in 78 games and Wilt played in 81(it was still an 81 game season in '67) so Wilt would've needed to average 34.2 ppg to match Barry's 2775 points(scoring titles were awarded to the player with the most total points pre-1970). Definitely plausible, but had Wilt had his '66 mindset rather than his '67 mindset, it would've been close.

'68 would have been easier with Barry going to the ABA. Oscar led the league in ppg with 29.2, but he played just 65 games so Dave Bing won the scoring title with 2142 points. Wilt would've needed to average 26.1 ppg to match that, well within reach for him considering he had a 68 point game earlier in that season.

'69 would have been tough for the simple reason that his coach made him the 3rd option offensively. Elvin Hayes led the league that year with 2327 points, Wilt would've needed 28.7 ppg, definitely possible considering he had a 66 point game and a 60 point game that year, but as a center you need to get the ball from the perimeter players, so I guess his coach making him the 3rd option prevented that.

1970 was when he injured his knee so that effectively ended his chances at scoring titles particularly with younger players such as Kareem Abdul Jabbar and Tiny Archibald putting up huge scoring numbers the next 3 seasons.

IMO, the '68 scoring title would've been a lock for Wilt had he had his mindset from earlier years, '67 would've been possible and '69 would've had his coach made him the first option, though playing with West and Baylor, it still might've been a stretch regardless of whether he was the first option.

IMHO, Wilt's 69-70 season COULD have been a big scoring season. He had a new coach, Joe Mullaney, who had replaced the clown Butch Van Breda Kolf, and who, before the season began, asked Wilt to become a scorer again. Wilt responded with a renewed energy, and in his first nine games, he averaged 32.2 ppg. Included in those were games of 33, 35, 37, 38, 42, and 43 points...as well as his lone H2H meeting against Kareem before he shredded his knee, in which he outscored Kareem, 25-23, outrebounded him, 25-20, outassisted him, 5-2, outblocked him, 3-2, and outshot him, 9-14 to 9-21. Granted Kareem was a rookie, but Wilt was on the decline, despite his great start. Furthermore, in that ninth game in which Wilt tore up his knee, he had scored 33 points on 13-13 shooting.

As for the 66-67 season thru the 68-69 seasons, I think he proved in each year, that he COULD have scored much more. I have long maintained that he could have scored 40 ppg in his 66-67 season. He was at his absolute peak, and when you compare his 66-67 season, with his 67-68 season, he was considerably more efficient, and averaged nearly the same ppg. You already mentioned his 68 point game in that 67-68 season, but he also had games of 52, 63, and 53 in that year, as well. But, back to his 66-67 season...Rick Barry, himself, "thanked" Wilt for "letting" him win the scoring title. And, in that season, the more he shot, the more efficient he was. He had the high game that year (as he did almost EVERY year in the decade of the 60's), of 58 points, on 26-34 shooting, as well as a 43 point game on a perfect 18-18 shooting (he also had games of 15-15 and 16-16 that season.)

I have mentioned this before, but Wilt was asked to cut back his scoring in 66-67 by his coach, Alex Hannum. He instead, was asked to facilitate the offense, and he responded by averaging 7.8 apg, which was good enough for third in that category. BUT, clearly Wilt could have scored more. In an early season game against Thurmond and the Warriors, Wilt was passing the ball in the first half, but his teammates were missing their shots. At the half, Hannum asked his team to feed Chamberlain in the second half. Wilt poured in 24 second-half points against Thurmond, and he finished with 30 to go along with 28 rebounds and 12 blocked shots.

Wilt's 68-69 season was a huge disappointment. His Laker team still had their best ever record (at the time), in Los Angeles. But the fact was, Van Breda Kolf had no clue how to use Wilt. He preferred to have Baylor roam the baseline, so he had Wilt playing a high-post for much of the season. The result? Baylor averaged 24.8 ppg on .447 shooting, while Wilt scored a then career-low, 20.5 ppg on .583 shooting. Once again, I have mentioned this several times before, but Wilt's drop in scoring became so severe, that when it dropped to about 17-18 ppg by late January, that SI ran an article claiming that Wilt could no longer score. The night before that article hit the newstand, Wilt poured in 60 points. A few days later he exploded for 66 points on 29-35 shooting. Over the course of 17 straight games, Wilt averaged 32 ppg, including a 35 point game against Russell, which was his highest game against Russell since his 46 point game in the final game of the 65-66 ECF's.

I also found it amusing in a post by PHILA, in which Van Breda Kolf made the comment that went something like this..."When we passed the ball to Wilt, he scored. But it was ugly to watch."

In any case, and IMHO, I honestly believe that Wilt COULD easily have led the NBA in scoring in his 66-67, 67-68, and 68-69 seasons (although, as ShaqAttack mentioned, his coach limited his offense), AND, I honestly believe that had he not been injured in that 69-70 season, that he could have led the league in scoring THAT year, as well. As it was, Jerry West won the scoring title at 31.2 ppg, which was his only scoring crown. However, given the fact that Chamberlain was the focal point of that Laker offense at the beginning of that season, at 32.2 ppg, I suspect that he would have continued that pace, and won another scoring title.

The bottom line...Wilt COULD have won as many as ELEVEN scoring titles in his 14 year career.

[ShaqAttack3234]

IMHO, Wilt's 69-70 season COULD have been a big scoring season. He had a new coach, Joe Mullaney, who had replaced the clown Butch Van Breda Kolf, and who, before the season began, asked Wilt to become a scorer again. Wilt responded with a renewed energy, and in his first nine games, he averaged 32.2 ppg. Included in those were games of 33, 35, 37, 38, 42, and 43 points...as well as his lone H2H meeting against Kareem before he shredded his knee, in which he outscored Kareem, 25-23, outrebounded him, 25-20, outassisted him, 5-2, outblocked him, 3-2, and outshot him, 9-14 to 9-21. Granted Kareem was a rookie, but Wilt was on the decline, despite his great start. Furthermore, in that ninth game in which Wilt tore up his knee, he had scored 33 points on 13-13 shooting.

As for the 66-67 season thru the 68-69 seasons, I think he proved in each year, that he COULD have scored much more. I have long maintained that he could have scored 40 ppg in his 66-67 season. He was at his absolute peak, and when you compare his 66-67 season, with his 67-68 season, he was considerably more efficient, and averaged nearly the same ppg. You already mentioned his 68 point game in that 67-68 season, but he also had games of 52, 63, and 53 in that year, as well. But, back to his 66-67 season...Rick Barry, himself, "thanked" Wilt for "letting" him win the scoring title. And, in that season, the more he shot, the more efficient he was. He had the high game that year (as he did almost EVERY year in the decade of the 60's), of 58 points, on 26-34 shooting, as well as a 43 point game on a perfect 18-18 shooting (he also had games of 15-15 and 16-16 that season.)

I have mentioned this before, but Wilt was asked to cut back his scoring in 66-67 by his coach, Alex Hannum. He instead, was asked to facilitate the offense, and he responded by averaging 7.8 apg, which was good enough for third in that category. BUT, clearly Wilt could have scored more. In an early season game against Thurmond and the Warriors, Wilt was passing the ball in the first half, but his teammates were missing their shots. At the half, Hannum asked his team to feed Chamberlain in the second half. Wilt poured in 24 second-half points against Thurmond, and he finished with 30 to go along with 28 rebounds and 12 blocked shots.

Wilt's 68-69 season was a huge disappointment. His Laker team still had their best ever record (at the time), in Los Angeles. But the fact was, Van Breda Kolf had no clue how to use Wilt. He preferred to have Baylor roam the baseline, so he had Wilt playing a high-post for much of the season. The result? Baylor averaged 24.8 ppg on .447 shooting, while Wilt scored a then career-low, 20.5 ppg on .583 shooting. Once again, I have mentioned this several times before, but Wilt's drop in scoring became so severe, that when it dropped to about 17-18 ppg by late January, that SI ran an article claiming that Wilt could no longer score. The night before that article hit the newstand, Wilt poured in 60 points. A few days later he exploded for 66 points on 29-35 shooting. Over the course of 17 straight games, Wilt averaged 32 ppg, including a 35 point game against Russell, which was his highest game against Russell since his 46 point game in the final game of the 65-66 ECF's.

I also found it amusing in a post by PHILA, in which Van Breda Kolf made the comment that went something like this..."When we passed the ball to Wilt, he scored. But it was ugly to watch."

In any case, and IMHO, I honestly believe that Wilt COULD easily have led the NBA in scoring in his 66-67, 67-68, and 68-69 seasons (although, as ShaqAttack mentioned, his coach limited his offense), AND, I honestly believe that had he not been injured in that 69-70 season, that he could have led the league in scoring THAT year, as well. As it was, Jerry West won the scoring title at 31.2 ppg, which was his only scoring crown. However, given the fact that Chamberlain was the focal point of that Laker offense at the beginning of that season, at 32.2 ppg, I suspect that he would have continued that pace, and won another scoring title.

The bottom line...Wilt COULD have won as many as ELEVEN scoring titles in his 14 year career.

Well, it's hard to say whether he could've won the scoring title in '70 because we only have a 9 game sample size with Wilt before his injury, West was averaging 30.8 ppg in those games and the 2 seemed to alternate with who led the team in scoring. We've seen guys put up astronomical numbers in short stretches, I mean Kobe has had what? three 40+ ppg months?

Wilt did have a 46 point game in the finals that season, pretty amazing considering the circumstances, so he could still score, but I think the knee injury is what ended his true prime.

I think both Wilt and Jordan could've won a few more scoring titles than they did. Jordan could've probably done it in '94 and '95 considering he was coming off of a 32.5 ppg season in '93 as well as a 35.1 ppg playoff run and a 41 ppg finals.

Then in '95, he had 55 points in his 5th game back vs the best defensive team in the league, had 48 points in his first playoff game, 40 points in another playoff game and an average of 31.5 ppg for the playoffs. And of course he won the next 3 scoring titles.

'86 is another example, because like Wilt in '70, he had an injury that kept him out most of the season before returning later in the year and dropping 63 points on arguably the best team ever and the best defensive team in the league that year. He had come off a 28.2 ppg rookie season and he averaged 37.1 the following season, so it's not hard to imagine a healthy Michael Jordan topping Dominique's 30.3 ppg.

Had Jordan decided to play in '99, I think he would have had a shot at one final scoring title as well, though that year is kind of hard to figure because Iverson and Shaq were the only players to average over 25 ppg.

But I think Jordan wins at least 2 more if he doesn't retire prior to the '93-'94 season, probably another if he's not injured in '86 and maybe '99 as well had he decided to keep playing.

[jlauber]

Well, it's hard to say whether he could've won the scoring title in '70 because we only have a 9 game sample size with Wilt before his injury, West was averaging 30.8 ppg in those games and the 2 seemed to alternate with who led the team in scoring. We've seen guys put up astronomical numbers in short stretches, I mean Kobe has had what? three 40+ ppg months?

Wilt did have a 46 point game in the finals that season, pretty amazing considering the circumstances, so he could still score, but I think the knee injury is what ended his true prime.

I think both Wilt and Jordan could've won a few more scoring titles than they did. Jordan could've probably done it in '94 and '95 considering he was coming off of a 32.5 ppg season in '93 as well as a 35.1 ppg playoff run and a 41 ppg finals.

Then in '95, he had 55 points in his 5th game back vs the best defensive team in the league, had 48 points in his first playoff game, 40 points in another playoff game and an average of 31.5 ppg for the playoffs. And of course he won the next 3 scoring titles.

'86 is another example, because like Wilt in '70, he had an injury that kept him out most of the season before returning later in the year and dropping 63 points on arguably the best team ever and the best defensive team in the league that year. He had come off a 28.2 ppg rookie season and he averaged 37.1 the following season, so it's not hard to imagine a healthy Michael Jordan topping Dominique's 30.3 ppg.

Had Jordan decided to play in '99, I think he would have had a shot at one final scoring title as well, though that year is kind of hard to figure because Iverson and Shaq were the only players to average over 25 ppg.

But I think Jordan wins at least 2 more if he doesn't retire prior to the '93-'94 season, probably another if he's not injured in '86 and maybe '99 as well had he decided to keep playing.

I really think Wilt had the mind-set to score more in that 69-70 season. He had been horribly shackled by the previous coach, and obviously that philosophy was a failure. He shot out of the gate in that season, and was getting better as the season went on, too. He was having his finest game of the game of the season (33 points on 13-13 shooting) when he suddenly pulled up lame.

In his three prior seasons, he had dramatically cut back his shooting, although, when he decided he wanted to score, he did.

Regarding Jordan...yes, he probably could have won more scoring titles, as well. Having said that, I have long maintained that Shaq could have scored more, as well. Same with Kareem.

[Mr. Jabbar]

I don't care what specific title or accolade Durant wins, he is not even a tier 1 player of his era. Lol at comparing him to Jordan, the guy is plain out boring to watch and has a hard-on for whistles.

[Nash-tastic]

I don't care what specific title or accolade Durant wins, he is not even a tier 1 player of his era. Lol at comparing him to Jordan, the guy is plain out boring to watch and has a hard-on for whistles.
:oldlol:

[O.J A 6'4Mamba]

44 points today

[jlauber]

44 points today

Chamberlain had THREE 60+ point games from his 67-68 and 68-69 seasons, in which he averaged about 15 FGAs per game in those seasons. Of course, he also had another 29 60+ point games in his scoring prime.

[stephanieg]

At least when Wade and LeBron get fishy FTAs they're usually driving into the lane and throwing themselves into people to make it at least look superficially kosher.

[Z0mgZ0rs]

Tracy McGrady says hi.

In all honesty, I don't think KD will ever get to where Tracy McGrady got. If the Heat ever play a more up tempo style of play (they are 26th in Pace I think), LeBron and D Wade could be #1 & 2.

Let's not forget Carmelo (especially if he teams up with Paul), Stoudemire, Rose, Ellis and Westbrook (he could take points away from KD).

[Nikola_]

Ties Allen Iverson and George Gervin.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Next stop

choking rating career leader.

[Psileas]

Ties Allen Iverson and George Gervin.

:applause: :applause: :applause: :applause:

Next stop

choking rating career leader.

>> your favorite player. :applause:

[Nikola_]

>> your favorite player. :applause:

If its only two ">" its no big deal. Hell be there in no time.

[Psileas]

If its only two ">" its no big deal. Hell be there in no time.

Mathematically speaking, there's no more than two ">" needed to tell you there's a big difference. Writing something like ">>>>>>>>>>>>>" is for insecure people who think they haven't expressed their minds enough.

[Calabis]

KD already has 1 in his belt. No challengers this year, so he is looking at 2 scoring titles already at the age of 22.

Can u send me the lotto numbers nostradamus?

[Jasper]

KD already has 1 in his belt. No challengers this year, so he is looking at 2 scoring titles already at the age of 22.
HOW MANY CHIPS DID icy-MAN WIN :confusedshrug:

[J Shuttlesworth]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_1SQ2ZrItxOQ/TMq9JPJJVKI/AAAAAAAAAFc/2BT_AbHW4Yk/s1600/dailynewsamare.jpg

Overall: Durant 27.4, Amare 26.5
Last ten: Amare 32.0, Durant 27.6
:lol

[sportjames23]

:lol :lol :lol

[KyrieTheFuture]

I don't care what specific title or accolade Durant wins, he is not even a tier 1 player of his era. Lol at comparing him to Jordan, the guy is plain out boring to watch and has a hard-on for whistles.
My my how people's opinions change so conveniently

[HoopsFanNumero1]

My my how people's opinions change so conveniently

That's typical Kobetard behavior. It's almost like they can't stop themselves from downplaying any player that poses a threat to Kobe. Even if they have already surpassed him.

[HylianNightmare]

i miss shaqattack

[DMV2]

Technically, this is Durant's 5 straight scoring title if you go by total points, which it should be. 360 more points than Melo.

Durant only missed 1 game (81 GP). Melo missed 15 games (67 GP).