Eminem vs. the Illuminati

[Riddler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiIAS37t_lM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwHN76vvZY


A theory I have not yet subscribed to... but it makes sense.

This is the new Eminem (not a puppet):

http://static.actustar.com/img/photos/big/14445-eminem_pour_son_album_recovery.jpg

I'm not afraid to take a stand
Everybody come take my hand
We'll walk this road together, through the storm
Whatever weather, cold or warm
Just let you know that, you're not alone
Holla if you feel that you've been down the same road

And I just can't keep living this way
So starting today, I'm breaking out of this cage
I'm standing up, Imma face my demons
I'm manning up, Imma hold my ground
I've had enough, now I'm so fed up
Time to put my life back together right now

It was my decision to get clean, I did it for me
Admittedly I probably did it subliminally for you
So I could come back a brand new me, you helped see me through
And don't even realise what you did, believe me you
I been through the ringer, but they can do little to the middle finger
I think I got a tear in my eye, I feel like the king of
My world, haters can make like bees with no stingers, and drop dead
No more beef flingers, no more drama from now on, I promise
To focus soley on handling my responsibility's as a father.



This is the old (puppet to the industry):

http://malcolmtributepics.comli.com/aco/eminemcal.jpg

http://img1.loadtr.com/b-20659-rap_m%FCzik_ve_eminem.jpg

http://newbornrodeo.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/eminem-1.jpg?w=300&h=306

http://img.noiset.com/images/album/eminem-the-slim-shady-lp-cd-album-art-35208.jpeg

http://www.poster.net/eminem/eminem-bandana-5200036.jpg

http://www.prisonplanet.com/images/october2004/261004eminem.jpg

http://static.gigwise.com/gallery/9435237_eminem-lady.jpg

http://www.transformedpuppet.com/images/eminemspecialed/eminem_004.jpg

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/photos/3600000/Eminem-aka-Slim-Shady-eminem-3695189-300-300.jpg
(remember how horrible that song was? tell me this isn't an industry song.)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dcVOmEQzKA







http://images.smh.com.au/2009/09/17/736752/gaga7-600x400.jpg

Eminem: No Longer a Whore to the industry.

[NastaMaverick]

I just think he matured...dudes almost 40...

[Immortal Bum]

Reaching...

[Riddler]

I just think he matured...dudes almost 40...



He went through a lot... Did you know that he made a music video with his best friend Proof getting shot and killed in it... and two years later the same thing happened?

Crazy Stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZwHN76vvZY

Here is another 15 minute video about Eminem's escape from the industry... it goes into further detail.

[Riddler]

Reaching...

Not so much... check the video I just posted.

(and I've done extensive research on this subject so I personally believe it's not so far fetched.)

[JtotheIzzo]

you're an idiot

[BigRonStud]

How extensive? Have you interviewed anyone?

[NastaMaverick]

The lyrics you posted? seriously?

[Riddler]

How extensive? Have you interviewed anyone?

No, but I've sure as $hit seen a million interviews about the subject. They must all be lying though.

Check this one out for example: Ted Gunderson former FBI agent

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW6zjNDt8HQ


need I remind you that this guy use to work for the FBI.

[BigRonStud]

No, they don't have to be lying but perhaps the interviews you watched were edited and you saw them out of context? Also which interview did you watch where eminem said he was formerly part of the illuminati and is now no longer a part of it.

I've seen the one of ODB a few weeks before he died, saying that them George W Bush nigs was coming to kill him. That warrants a little thought to it.

[Stuckey]

yeah im sure the illuminati cares about rappers and singers

[AirTupac]

I do not what this is. Goodbye.

[IcanzIIravor]

It feels like you can make anything relate to the Illuminati these days. I bet if i did some research, cut and paste a few lyrics and lines, i can make Will Smith another Illuminati member.

You know you just put yourself on their radar by outting the Fresh Prince.

[Norcaliblunt]

Eminem didn't escape. In fact he got forced in. Proof was his blood sacrifice.

This new emo, affiliated with pop stars Eminem makes it seem even more obvious.


You are totally wrong if you think Em is not one of "them". Dude was even giving heavily connected Kanye West props on his new LP.

[Riddler]

Eminem didn't escape. In fact he got forced in. Proof was his blood sacrifice.

This I don't exactly believe... but there is something spooky with the whole situation.

Check out these lyrics:


I lock myself in the bedroom, bathroom, nappin' at noon,
Yeah dad's in a bad mood, he's always snappin' at you.
Marshall what happened that you, can't stop with these pills,
And you've fallen off with your skills, and your own fans are laughin' at you.
It become a problem you're too p*ssy to tackle, get up,
Be a man, stand, a real man would have had this shit handled.
Know you just had your heart ripped out and crushed,
They say Proof just flipped out, homie just whipped out and bust,
Nah, it ain't like Doody to do that,
He wouldn't f*ckin' shoot at, nobody, he'd fight first,
But dwellin' on it only makes the night worse,
Now I'm poppin Vic's, Perc's, and Methadone pills.
"Yeah Em, tight verse, you killed it,"
f*ckin' drug dealers hang around me like yes men,
And they gon' do whatever I says when, I says it,
It's in their best interest to protect their investment.
And I just lost my ****in' best friend, so f*ck it, I guess then...



Sounds like Proof died because he was always getting drugs for Eminem.

[Norcaliblunt]

Naw Proof was going against Em by working with underground artists that rival Shady records and Interscope. This made him expendable.

Proof was going local and underground, while Em was in a transition from Illuminatti soldier to becoming a General. Proof wasn't going with the flow, so he was taken care of.

In the end you have an Eminem that isn't politcal, and is affiliated with all the big time Illuminatti in the industry, Jay-Z, Kanye, and Jimmy Iovine, instead of with Proof and the place he came from.

[Riddler]

Proof was going local and underground, while Em was in a transition from Illuminatti soldier to becoming a General. Proof wasn't going with the flow, so he was taken care of.


I can see how this might make the theory true. It is kind of crazy to watch Eminem talk about how his death doesn't make any sense in that video I posted.... It's almost as if he suspects something was fishy about his death.

[beermonsteroo]

:facepalm

[Nobler]

wtf is up with all the illuminati threads all of the sudden? :wtf:

[Legend of Josh]

There's no link here Dooms...

[Riddler]

There's no link here Dooms...


link for what? or were you being sarcastic?

[Legend of Josh]

link for what? or were you being sarcastic?

Neither - I'm just saying I don't see the connection of the dots you're trying to present.

[Riddler]

Neither - I'm just saying I don't see the connection of the dots you're trying to present.



Did you watch the videos?


http://cdn.complex.com/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/jayz_Illuminati.jpg


Eminem is no longer doing what Jay Z was doing... representing the devil of the music industry. He may associate with artists that are still doing this, but he says clearly in his recovery album that he will no longer let the industry control him.

http://pocketfullofpaper.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/Eminem-Recovery-Cover-Art-2-500x500.png

This album cover kind of symbolizes how Eminem is still being watched by the higher ups and how fame put his life in a glass cage for society to watch.

[Legend of Josh]

Nice sales pitch. I'm just not buyin'

(I can't access YouTube on my work comp)

[Riddler]

the theory is that Eminem dissed the Illuminati in the songs Cinderella Man, and 25 to Life, and there other references in the Recovery album.


also he says:

http://rapgenius.com/lyrics/Eminem/Cinderella-man#note-19427


F*ck my last CD, the shit's in my trash



you need to watch the videos.

[Legend of Josh]

His 'last' CD he's referring to (Relapse) is IMO his best album to date. Work of genius if you ask me.

[CeltsGarlic]

Actually I feel more brainwashed after watching those videos about anti-Illuminati, then listening to music.

[Riddler]

His 'last' CD he's referring to (Relapse) is IMO his best album to date. Work of genius if you ask me.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexLAjh8fPA

Watch this video Toy Soldier...

(Comments)


What makes this video really sad is the guy that plays the guy in the hospital actually died, but by a bullet wound to the head instead.


Proof who is acting as the dead guy in the video actually died one year after the music video was released. Tragic irony.


After watching that music video Eminem is probably the reason why he got killed, and he knows it.

[Go Getter]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lexLAjh8fPA

Watch this video Toy Soldier...

(Comments)






After watching that music video Eminem is probably the reason why he got killed, and he knows it.


Please tell me what the music video has to do with a random club shooting?

[Riddler]

Please tell me what the music video has to do with a random club shooting?


I think it's about Proof getting shot because Eminem & his crew had beef with other rappers.

Not sure why they had Proof shot and killed in the video but coincidentally it happened in real life.

If you watch the second video I posted in the OP Eminem said he beat himself up about the fact that they decided to make the video this way... almost as if he hadn't made this video he would of never been killed.

[Gundress]

Very good videos and very interesting.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

So let me get this straight, the Illuminati, an all powerful group of people which control everything, spend 90% of their time micromanaging the pop industry in order to put really subtle messages into everything, so they can control their audience, which happen to be the all powerful teenagers. And eminem has now escaped their clutches and is exposing them, but hasn't died yet for some reason, and doesn't fear it, and is now as popular as ever, despite the fact that he has quit the Illuminati which control the main stream media.


What exactly do Illuminati do anyway besides inserting subtle symbols into all kinds of media? How come no one ever makes a connection between some significant event in this world and the Illuminati? that would be some credible proof as opposed to a picture of Jay z holding his hands up, right?


I'm starting to think that anyone who believes in the Illuminati smokes a lot of weed, is unemployed, and lives at home with their parents.

[Lebowsky]

I'm sorry dooms, but I don't get it. I thought you ditched your previous username because you didn't want to be associated with certain ridiculous conspiracy theories and meant to become a new poster, yet most of your posts and threads are the same embarrassing lunacies they used to be.

[gloriawest]

So let me get this straight, the Illuminati, an all powerful group of people which control everything, spend 90% of their time micromanaging the pop industry in order to put really subtle messages into everything, so they can control their audience, which happen to be the all powerful teenagers. And eminem has now escaped their clutches and is exposing them, but hasn't died yet for some reason, and doesn't fear it, and is now as popular as ever, despite the fact that he has quit the Illuminati which control the main stream media.


What exactly do Illuminati do anyway besides inserting subtle symbols into all kinds of media? How come no one ever makes a connection between some significant event in this world and the Illuminati? that would be some credible proof as opposed to a picture of Jay z holding his hands up, right?


I'm starting to think that anyone who believes in the Illuminati smokes a lot of weed, is unemployed, and lives at home with their parents.

you might be right about all that but its hard to deny the medias grasp on everything in this world. If you cannot honestly see the agenda day to day from the morning shows to the news, i just can't help you. It is just like people think that 911 is totally out of political motivation simply because they do not know jack sh!t about history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

I am a fence sitter on this one but i definitely do see it as a possibility. When such a rich few exist, rothchilds, rocafellas, the bilderberg group and the list goes on, it is plausible to think that they would think very little of anyone beneath them. To us we are ants that fuel the empire.

There is a lot of evidence to suggest that population control methods have been going on for decades. Overpopulation will destroy the world eventually that is just common sense. Because it is so evil however people just do not even think about it let alone find it necessary to cull the numbers of people to prevent this from happening. Lucky for war, I am sure they do not need to do much extra to keep the numbers down. I find it funny that we can be so sure of what is really happening on the other side of the planet, despite us only getting our news from polluted sources that is the mainstream media. (none of what i wrote in this paragraph has anything to do with 911, if thats what u were thinking)

If you read enough sources for example, you would find the majority of Somali Pirates are desperate. Do you honestly think a group of 9 men think they have a good chance of surviving such ordeals (lets be honest, most times they die). Do you honestly think they don't know this? The media would have u believe they are thoughtless black men with guns, when in reality they are men fighting for their livelihood considering first world nations have been dumping their waste off the waters of Somalia for decades, consequently destroying the fishing industry. If you knew anything about the place, you would understood why they are so pissed off. What else can they do. Sure they shouldn't be doing it, but Monsanto (a multinational dairy company) shouldn't have lobbied against small time farmers, in your own fkin country (im Australian), making it illegal for them to advertise their products as Organic, or chemical free. This in turn gives them no edge over the richer more efficient company, and people buy the 'trusted' name and as a result has put the majority of small time dairy farmers out of business.

I rang Monsanto myself and they even confirmed all i just said, yet they were audacious enough to cap it off with a "but we also do all this....". The media and big business are one and the same.

[Disaprine]

http://images.smh.com.au/2009/09/17/736752/gaga7-600x400.jpg
Eminem looks traumatized just by standing next to her. :lol

[andgar923]

Not to say that he is or isn't, but if he came out and spoke out against it.... would some of you still believe it?

And if somebody came out and said it didn't exist, would some of you believe them?

[Legend of Josh]

It exists. To what extent, I'm not so sure. Nonetheless, you can't ignore the signs. I'm catching on to what Dooms was getting at with Em. It's making more sense now.

It's not like Em would just come out and spring the whole "ILLUMINATI ALERT!" ... he's doing it through his own symbolism. Which raises even more questions. Perhaps the Illuminati is using this as mirage to 'think' Em is trying to get out on purpose... that's how these mind-****er'z operate.

[MikeBeas]

Eminem looks traumatized just by standing next to her. :lol
:lol

[MikeBeas]

:banana: :banana: :banana:

[LilBTheBasedGod]

His 'last' CD he's referring to (Relapse) is IMO his best album to date. Work of genius if you ask me.

That album was total garbage :facepalm

Beautiful is a pretty good track, but thats pretty much it. some 3/5's on there, but the rest is less.

[Riddler]

It exists. To what extent, I'm not so sure. Nonetheless, you can't ignore the signs. I'm catching on to what Dooms was getting at with Em. It's making more sense now.

It's not like Em would just come out and spring the whole "ILLUMINATI ALERT!" ... he's doing it through his own symbolism. Which raises even more questions. Perhaps the Illuminati is using this as mirage to 'think' Em is trying to get out on purpose... that's how these mind-****er'z operate.


this.

[IamSofaKing]

If there is an Illuminati do you think Jon Stewart is a part of them? I hope not, I really like him. Unless of course the Illuminati is good, then that would be accepatable.

Illuminati im a little bit sketchy about, secret societies aka Freemasonry on the other hand im 100% sure is true regardless of what they call themselves.

[Riddler]

If there is an Illuminati do you think Jon Stewart is a part of them? I hope not, I really like him. Unless of course the Illuminati is good, then that would be accepatable.


Jon Stewart is 100% connected... sorry.

I'll provide information later.

stay tuned.

[Riddler]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo! :cry:




Here it is:

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread632527/pg1


This Thread got a $hit load of attention because of the information about Jon Stewart in the OP.

His real name is Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz.

[Riddler]

What if he and his underground society government wanted to get Ron Paul elected and really over throw the FED. What if he's part of the solution.


What if overthrowing / or destroying the Fed is part of their plan...

Problem Reaction Solution.

They Create a Problem: The Federal Reserve

They get a reaction from the public: END THE FED!!!

They provide the solution: A new currency

this is how they work.


I honestly believe that somebody wants our economy to crash so they can implement some new agenda... and Ending the Fed will certainly to the trick.

[Riddler]

Still way to negative.. where is your head gonna be at come 2012? Maybe there are still things to hope for in the future. Not everything has to end badly. Christianity even teaches that something can end good, reguardless of how bad things may seem. Now whether that is the word of God or a book of stories to pass on a message. I believe in the goodness of mankind.


hey since this thread is about the Illuminati in the music industry: I saw this video about Michael Jackson being a 2012 believer...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vn8cVoK70M

This world needs love... Michael Jackson is right... but what is this 4 years to get right talk?

[Riddler]

Maybe the freemasons are good.




I've learned to look at Freemasonry as Secrecy... that's mainly what it is.

They do weird $hit and all that... but the bottom line is that these people operate in the shadows.

Secrecy can be both good and bad... but in both cases it's extreme... and with holding information from the public usually tends to be bad.

The reason why US president is always a FreeMason is because it's all ready a given that he knows how to keep a secret... If you don't know how to keep a secret then you probably won't become President. LOL.

[Riddler]

okay so I can agree that they can keep a secret but didn't batman keep his identity a secret?

Your theories are usually centered around "now way out" things where no matter what we do unless we go to war or overthrow everybody ever or we're fuct.


I've read before that their are good secret societies that are trying work against bad secret societies.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread353057/pg1

[quote]True Form
The "Illuminati" as most people see it is an archaic and in most cases dark, devious entity, whose ultimate goal is ubiquitous control of commerce and the populous in whole. This notion is derived from two sources; "historical" evidence, and that of slanted/jaded testimonies. One must come to understand the "true nature" of the "definition" of Illuminati before reasonable conclusions can be drawn, any preconceived notions assumed about the entity in whole would as a result, be in its most entirety; inaccurate. The Illuminati does not exist as many think it to, it is not one all powerful "secret society," and is in no way "unified." To aptly state the Illuminati exist in many pieces, with many doctrines, many opinions, many points of view, and many good and ill intentioned people. Once one identifies the great deal of diversity between these multiple

[sunsfan1357]

What if overthrowing / or destroying the Fed is part of their plan...

Problem Reaction Solution.

They Create a Problem: The Federal Reserve

They get a reaction from the public: END THE FED!!!

They provide the solution: A new currency

this is how they work.


I honestly believe that somebody wants our economy to crash so they can implement some new agenda... and Ending the Fed will certainly to the trick.
So no matter what happens you'll find a way to believe that the Illuminati control everything?

Also, most people in that link you provided about Stewart say the OP is reaching way too hard in trying to connect him to some sort of conspiracy. Plus all the "info" is from his wikipedia page.

[kentatm]

:rolleyes:

[Riddler]

So no matter what happens you'll find a way to believe that the Illuminati control everything?

They don't control everything... but they sure hell move 10 steps ahead of the game. They have Plan B,C, and D in their back pocket at all times.

Look man... I didn't want to get in a argument on how much control they have... I just want mother f*ckers to know that these people exist, and it's not a damn ghost story... and yes, they do control a $hit load of things, but it's never 100%.

They don't control 100% of the entertainment industry, or 100% of what happens in Washington D.C. or 100% of what happens in the media... But they sure as $hit have an influence over it, that much should be clear by now.

You know I've never understood the type that thinks all this conspiracy stuff is garbage... It's one thing to be annoyed by it, but it's another to deny it. I guess certain people such as yourself tend to think that people are not evil enough, or that people don't have a certain amount of power, or that certain secrets can't be kept hidden... whatever it is... I think the problem is that I might tend to overestimate what man is capable of doing, and you guys tend to underestimate it. I can see how I might tend to point out something that's not even there (Eminem and this thread for example).... but It seems like their are certain types will always come up with a defense or an excuse as to why none of it is true.

But it sucks, because even when you have a person trying to explain a conspiracy... take Latoya Jackson for example... here you have a chick trying to expose the fact that her brother was murdered by people behind the scenes... and that without a doubt there was a conspiracy behind it, but you guys will still say it's bull $hit. No matter who comes forward, or what evidence is presented... you guys either won't give a $hit, or simply say it's bull $hit and roll your eyes.

It's like you guys are working backwards... Instead of looking into reasons why 9/11 could of been an Inside Job, you immediately look at reasons and excuses as to why it wasn't... And I'm tired of "It's a coincidence" as the common excuse.


Bottom Line:


Very good videos and very interesting.

Why can't more people just reply tike this? Thank You.



End Rant.

/End Thread.

[Quizno]

He was a Psychology Major. Explains how he was able to fool us for so long!

:oldlol:

is this satire?


His real name is Jonathan Stuart Leibowitz.

is that supposed to be a secret?

[Bosnian Sajo]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU

Watch this series, known as the arrival series. You are a fool if you do not believe this, it is very simple to comprehend really. The world is corrupt, the illuminati tries to get into your subconscious, this is their main goal, you wont notice it although it comes into subconsciously and stays with you.

To those who would like to quote me and call me an idiot, don't, I am doing this to give you a chance to see what this shit really is and if you do not want to take advantage of this opportunity, then just go on with your night and disregard ever reading this post.

Although if you do believe, even somewhat, take a look at the series I posted. It is a 47 episode series and the stuff on their is very informative, and very interesting. Don't try watching it all at once (for it is too long and might be too much) and don't think TOO much about it for it could drive you into insanity or just plain out disbelief. This shit is creepy and ****ed up, but thats life, thats just how it is. Watching this though will at least make you aware of whats wrong with society, and thats all that the creator of the video wants. to make you aware. Also, after watching the series (or just some of it like the main parts) you will start noticing these symbols and subliminal shit everywhere, and as I said before it is good to be aware of what is around you.

[Enigmatism]

Eminem is just another unwitting cog in the machine

[1987_Lakers]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwKcjRD1DNE&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eutopiated%2Enet%2Fillumina ughty%2Fmisc%2Fgeorge%5Fbush%5Fsenior%5Fsemi%2Dsha pe%2Dshift%253f%2Ehtml

pause at 00:04 and look at the eyes. wtf.

also go to 1:49. Vampire teeth? lol

[Gundress]

Hey Doom...have you seen the Dr.Dre commercial with his brand headphone "Beat by Dre" marked at 0.11-0.12...it has 666. YOu will see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CQbTG-occ

[Riddler]

Hey Doom...have you seen the Dr.Dre commercial with his brand headphone "Beat by Dre" marked at 0.11-0.12...it has 666. YOu will see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CQbTG-occ

:wtf:


but at the same time is really that surprising?


But that commercial is in your face that I would of made a thread about it had I discovered it.

good find Gundress.



That's really sad for Dr. Dre.

He even said he wasn't trying to hang around for the Illuminati in his "been there done that" track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c80dWbiONqM


No question, it's all about the D-R-E.
So if money is the root I want the whole damn tree.
Ain't tryin' to stick around for the Illuminati,
Got to buy my own island by the year 2 G...

Well he waited around to long... and now he's apart of it.

Look at him dancing around in the ballroom like he's apart of them.

[caleb27615]

this thread is funny.. I think all artist are slaves to the industry they do what they do to makes sales and money

[caleb27615]

Hey Doom...have you seen the Dr.Dre commercial with his brand headphone "Beat by Dre" marked at 0.11-0.12...it has 666. YOu will see it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54CQbTG-occ
i SEE WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT THE LOWERCASE (B) LOOKS LIKE A 6

[caleb27615]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU

Watch this series, known as the arrival series. You are a fool if you do not believe this, it is very simple to comprehend really. The world is corrupt, the illuminati tries to get into your subconscious, this is their main goal, you wont notice it although it comes into subconsciously and stays with you.

To those who would like to quote me and call me an idiot, don't, I am doing this to give you a chance to see what this shit really is and if you do not want to take advantage of this opportunity, then just go on with your night and disregard ever reading this post.

Although if you do believe, even somewhat, take a look at the series I posted. It is a 47 episode series and the stuff on their is very informative, and very interesting. Don't try watching it all at once (for it is too long and might be too much) and don't think TOO much about it for it could drive you into insanity or just plain out disbelief. This shit is creepy and ****ed up, but thats life, thats just how it is. Watching this though will at least make you aware of whats wrong with society, and thats all that the creator of the video wants. to make you aware. Also, after watching the series (or just some of it like the main parts) you will start noticing these symbols and subliminal shit everywhere, and as I said before it is good to be aware of what is around you.


tHE DEVILS WORK THROUGH OUR IGNORANCE!! GOOD FIND

[Riddler]

tHE DEVILS WORK THROUGH OUR IGNORANCE!! GOOD FIND

I've seen the Arrivals.

Very good series.

And while I don't believe 100% of it... I certainly believe most of it, which is still enough for me to be fascinated.

I'll post my some of my favorite parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtfIkTPj0jM
The Arrivals PART 46 (The Complete Human)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH6NqtnWqPA
The Arrivals - Part 24 (Freedom Unplugged)



The best way for people to change,... to see and change their way of thinking, is for them to experience the change,... is for them to research this knowledge rather than having someone tell it to them.

So true.

[Gundress]

:wtf:


but at the same time is really that surprising?


But that commercial is in your face that I would of made a thread about it had I discovered it.

good find Gundress.



That's really sad for Dr. Dre.

He even said he wasn't trying to hang around for the Illuminati in his "been there done that" track.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c80dWbiONqM



Well he waited around to long... and now he's apart of it.

Look at him dancing around in the ballroom like he's apart of them.

Why do you think Dre always hang out with his boss Jimmy Iovine more than Eminem?

Fine.....Here the picture of new year, a-list celebrity lists aka illumanti party

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5007/5320714917_1432f4e0d2_z.jpg
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[Gundress]

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[Riddler]

yep... that's definitely their kind of party.

who is Jimmy Iovine again?

[Riddler]

Hey Gundress check out my avatar.

http://memories.michaeljackson.com/ex-images/michael-jackson-this-is-it-soundtrack.jpg



see any similarities?



By the way have you played this Black Ops game? Crazy conspiracy shit is in it with the CIA and MK Ultra... they even go into JFK and his assassination.

check this out: (spoiler)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em2Kaqd1EyQ
Black Ops Ending HD

[Gundress]

yep... that's definitely their kind of party.

who is Jimmy Iovine again?

Are you serious?, The picture I posted Dre with his boss on the left with his baseball cap hat and glasses. He owns Interscope Records (Death Row, Aftermath, Shady, G-Unit, Geffen, etc ) are under Interscope.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3897/jimmyiovineverizonandpe.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/i/jimmyiovineverizonandpe.jpg/)

[Riddler]

Are you serious?, The picture I posted Dre with his boss on the left with his baseball cap hat and glasses. He owns Interscope Records (Death Row, Aftermath, Shady, G-Unit, Geffen, etc ) are under Interscope.

http://img254.imageshack.us/img254/3897/jimmyiovineverizonandpe.jpg (http://img254.imageshack.us/i/jimmyiovineverizonandpe.jpg/)



Well now I know what a Devil Worshiper looks like.


do any of these rappers and entertainer worship the devil? Probably not... but this guy does, and this is the guy that Eminem and Dre would of had to sell their soul to.

[Gundress]

Hey Gundress check out my avatar.

http://memories.michaeljackson.com/ex-images/michael-jackson-this-is-it-soundtrack.jpg



see any similarities?



By the way have you played this Black Ops game? Crazy conspiracy shit is in it with the CIA and MK Ultra... they even go into JFK and his assassination.

check this out: (spoiler)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=em2Kaqd1EyQ
Black Ops Ending HD

Yeah, I own Black Ops on 360. There are more than JFK tjam u think

[Gundress]

Well now I know what a Devil Worshiper looks like.


Did you know that Pac was already under Interscope before he signed Death Row? and when he was in Jail at the time...his album Me Against The World...he is the only artist ever to have an album at number one on the Billboard 200 while serving a prison sentence.

[Dwade305]

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I know 3 closet sodomites when I see them :lol

[Riddler]

Did you know that Pac was already under Interscope before he signed Death Row? and when he was in Jail at the time...his album Me Against The World...he is the only artist ever to have an album at number one on the Billboard 200 while serving a prison sentence.



http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread508812/pg1



So we hear that missing people including children have been sacrificed for evil purposes. While I am willing to believe that, I'd like to know if anybody has any sources for the reality of dark occult groups such as Satanic ones sacrificing humans in return for increases in power etc or what they see are increases in power etc.

I'd also like to know if anybody heard of the blood sacrifices supposedly made by popular entertainers such as Jay Z and Michael Jordan (yes he was an entertainer in essence). I've seen the youtube videos which feature Professor Griff who was in Public Enemy until he got forced out because the powerful in the music industry said he was anti Semitic (actually anti Jewish because to use the term Semitic is an historical/cultural misrepresentation). I

know Proff Griff could say things that could be taken as anti Jewish and he certainly said some things that were used against him because they were open to being labelled in that way.

However, fundamentally when he talked about the entertainment industry he was talking about the powerful Jewish people such as those who run the entertainment industry, warping our view of reality with stereotypes, misinformation, and the wielding of power for the benefit of the few. Note here I am talking about individuals who happen to be Jewish and their involvement in the entertainment industry. I do not subscribe to the numerous conspiracy theories on Jewish people throughout history which is why I don't like *****.com although it has a lot of useful stuff. It also has an anti Jewish bent although it always proclaims it is anti Zionist.

To get back to Griff - he holds that Michael Jordan's father's murder was the price Jordan paid to be the most successful (monetarily and competitively) and famous basketball player of all time. He says Damon Dash (the business partner Jay Z screwed over) sacrificed the R and B singer Aliyah who was his fiancee in order to gain the success that the music label Rocafella became.

He says Suge Knight (VEO of Death Row Records) sacrificed Tupac Shakur for money and fame. He says J Prince (Rap A Lot Records) sacrificed rapper Pimp C who died last year.

Griff holds that Jennifer Hudson's family were killed ritually as the result of the demand that she make a blood sacrifice to become one of the elite in the entertainment world. I am sure he has mentioned more but I have only heard of these people (plus names of people like hiphop producer Irv Gotti who supposedly was going to sacrifice Ashanti but she removed herself from him and her old music label).

As a rational person who needs evidence before subscribing to such theories I nevertheless find them interesting though disturbing. Jay Z's nephew and one of his close friends died last year (nephew in an accident, friend murdered). Kanye West's mother died last year after cosmetic surgery and it came out that a nephew who was supposed to be looking after the mother post op neglected her.

Lisa Left Eye Lopez formerly of TLC (female hiphop group) died in South America in a car accident after joining Death Row records. No doubt there are other deceased people associated with these famous people.

Did anybody hear about this before Professor Griff was on youtube? What do you think? It's such a controversial theory. However, the emphasis in Jay Z's and Beyonce's circles on dark occultic symbols such as the head of Baphomet and the push to promote the occult and such symbols in videos from theirs to Omarion's points to an agenda.

Bull# from over active imagination and resentment? Or freaky stuff that nevertheless points to truth being stranger than fiction?



So here is my list so far:

Eminem - Proof
Kanye West - his mom
T.I. - Rapper and friend Dolla
Damon Dash - ALLIAH
P Diddy - Biggie
Suge Knight - Tupac (didn't work out so great for Suge)
Dr Dre - His Son
The Entire Jackson Family - Michael Jackson
J Prince - Pimp C
Jennifer Hudson - 2 family members

[Gundress]

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I know 3 closet sodomites when I see them :lol


They all wear black color.

[Riddler]

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I know 3 closet sodomites when I see them :lol


:oldlol:

[Riddler]

It's like they either have to wear a dress in a movie, have a blood sacrifice, or have gay sex to get famous... or all three for all I know.

[Gundress]

Hey Doom, I don't know you like watch classic white and black color but this is one of my favorite Twilight Zone show of all time.

Howling Man...you need to watch this show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZib53RK-Bs

and

Escape Clause
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOYq929Zr-U

[Riddler]

Hey Doom, I don't you like white and black color but this is one of my favorite Twilight Zone show of all time.

Howling Man...you need to watch this show.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZib53RK-Bs

and

Escape Clause
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eOYq929Zr-U


I'll check it out...

be back in a little bit.

[Bosnian Sajo]

I've seen the Arrivals.

Very good series.

And while I don't believe 100% of it... I certainly believe most of it, which is still enough for me to be fascinated.

I'll post my some of my favorite parts:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtfIkTPj0jM
The Arrivals PART 46 (The Complete Human)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH6NqtnWqPA
The Arrivals - Part 24 (Freedom Unplugged)



So true.


Looks like there are 2 diff arrivals series...

[Dwade305]

It's like they either have to wear a dress in a movie, have a blood sacrifice, or have gay sex to get famous... or all three for all I know.
Amare signs a $100 million contract in NYC, and next thing you know he is butt naked, front cover Espn.:lol

[Chris Quinn]

interesting STUFF

[Dwade305]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUgrtz-Wrso:lol

Look at Pac he is:mad: :facepalm :ohwell: :ohwell:

Somewhere in the video you can hear a wolf whistle from one of those 3 **** enjoying it.:lol

[Riddler]

Ok....


you guys are right...


I need to stop talking about everything basically.


This thread has way too many views.


Holy $hit... not only that... I have completely changed my views
on Eminem (5 years later)

[Riddler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le_ySMrOkFU

Watch this series, known as the arrival series. You are a fool if you do not believe this, it is very simple to comprehend really. The world is corrupt, the illuminati tries to get into your subconscious, this is their main goal, you wont notice it although it comes into subconsciously and stays with you.

To those who would like to quote me and call me an idiot, don't, I am doing this to give you a chance to see what this shit really is and if you do not want to take advantage of this opportunity, then just go on with your night and disregard ever reading this post.

Although if you do believe, even somewhat, take a look at the series I posted. It is a 47 episode series and the stuff on their is very informative, and very interesting. Don't try watching it all at once (for it is too long and might be too much) and don't think TOO much about it for it could drive you into insanity or just plain out disbelief. This shit is creepy and ****ed up, but thats life, thats just how it is. Watching this though will at least make you aware of whats wrong with society, and thats all that the creator of the video wants. to make you aware. Also, after watching the series (or just some of it like the main parts) you will start noticing these symbols and subliminal shit everywhere, and as I said before it is good to be aware of what is around you.



wow.... surprising post here.

[Riddler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gH6NqtnWqPA
The Arrivals - Part 24 (Freedom Unplugged)



Part 23 is the real deal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYBS2eGHqdA
The Arrivals - Part 23 (Materialism & The Battle Within)




Alright.... no more of these topics will surface in the OTC.

Can't believe it though... 26,000 views.