Lebron James for MVP

[KG5MVP]

Yes, Miami is total sh1t without Lebron. I don't care if it's a back to back game, the Heats shouldn't lose this bad.

Just look at how bad Cavaliers and Heat play you will know that Lebron is the MFMVP (Mother ****ing Most Valuable Player)

[YouCallILose]

They won 47 games last year with no LeBron & no Bosh

it's 1 game, relax

Wade+Bosh=55 wins

that being said the MVP will be LeBron, Durant, or Howard

[LilBTheBasedGod]

Karma is a b*tch, man.

[LeFraud Shames]

No. :facepalm

Just no.

[KG5MVP]

No. :facepalm

Just no.

Yea your totally not biased :rolleyes:

[Myth]

I've never known a poster who more consistently creates reactionary threads.

[Wuxia]

you think the team sucks w/o the best player in the league? way to go on out on a limb.

[Alonzo Magic]

The Timberwolves win by double digits. Contenders?

[griffmoney1784]

lol the heat right now are built on 3 players scoring 90% of their points

obviously if you take away 1 of them they fail. this is why they wont win the championship.

if 1 of them has a bad night they lose

mvp 99% of the time goes to a confrence #1 seed. only time it doesnt is when a team has more than 1 mvp or doesnt have any mvp type player. then it goes to the next best option on the 2 second seeds

so right now the mvp should belong to either

A) Kobe

or

B) Rose

[KG5MVP]

lol the heat right now are built on 3 players scoring 90% of their points

obviously if you take away 1 of them they fail. this is why they wont win the championship.

if 1 of them has a bad night they lose

mvp 99% of the time goes to a confrence #1 seed. only time it doesnt is when a team has more than 1 mvp or doesnt have any mvp type player. then it goes to the next best option on the 2 second seeds

so right now the mvp should belong to either

A) Kobe

or

B) Rose

A) Laker's frontcourt

B) Nowitzki

C) Lebron James

[tpols]

Lebron probably deserves MVP again this year.

Miami is the best team out of all the other leading MVP candidates' teams and he's the biggest reason for it out of anyone on his team.

[YouCallILose]

lol the heat right now are built on 3 players scoring 90% of their points

obviously if you take away 1 of them they fail. this is why they wont win the championship.

if 1 of them has a bad night they lose

mvp 99% of the time goes to a confrence #1 seed. only time it doesnt is when a team has more than 1 mvp or doesnt have any mvp type player. then it goes to the next best option on the 2 second seeds

so right now the mvp should belong to either

A) Kobe

or

B) Rose


lol

kobe isn't even top 10

[asdf1990]

They won 47 games last year with no LeBron & no Bosh

it's 1 game, relax

Wade+Bosh=55 wins

that being said the MVP will be LeBron, Durant, or Howard

Lol no. .

[kingkong]

you're right, Wade is an awful player and a joke

remember when people were saying he's an MVP?

[Walduś]

too bad it's going to be kobe. :oldlol:

[KG5MVP]

you're right, Wade is an awful player and a joke

remember when people were saying he's an MVP?

Wade is good, but he's not MVP good this season

[griffmoney1784]

A) Laker's frontcourt

B) Nowitzki

C) Lebron James


lakers front court is key... but so is kobe.

you take away kobe and pau fails as #1 option... no easy baskets for anyone

and the voters dont give a crap about what us message board posters talk about... chances are the lakers will end up with the #1 record if they keep this up. and kobe will get mvp based on the history of voting

his numbers are good enough... 25/5/5 ? no other guy with a legit team has better stats without a second mvp on his team cept rose

[YouCallILose]

Lol no. .

he's averaging 29/6/3 60 TS% on a team on pace for 55 wins, Heat on pace for 60 wins with 3 all stars. you're one dumb motherfvcker


Also the Heat lost to the freaking Clippers last night with LeBron and gave up 65 points in the first half. I guess that didn't happen?

[kingkong]

Wade is good, but he's not MVP good this season

he doesn't play defense, period, and he's not much of a offensive threat when Lebron's not by his side

[Wuxia]

lakers front court is key... but so is kobe.

you take away kobe and pau fails as #1 option... no easy baskets for anyone

and the voters dont give a crap about what us message board posters talk about... chances are the lakers will end up with the #1 record if they keep this up. and kobe will get mvp based on the history of voting

his numbers are good enough... 25/5/5 ? no other guy with a legit team has better stats without a second mvp on his team cept rose

what about Dwight and Dirk?

[asdf1990]

lol the heat right now are built on 3 players scoring 90% of their points

obviously if you take away 1 of them they fail. this is why they wont win the championship.

if 1 of them has a bad night they lose

mvp 99% of the time goes to a confrence #1 seed. only time it doesnt is when a team has more than 1 mvp or doesnt have any mvp type player. then it goes to the next best option on the 2 second seeds

so right now the mvp should belong to either

A) Kobe

or

B) Rose

Lmao. .

[KG5MVP]

lakers front court is key... but so is kobe.

you take away kobe and pau fails as #1 option... no easy baskets for anyone

and the voters dont give a crap about what us message board posters talk about... chances are the lakers will end up with the #1 record if they keep this up. and kobe will get mvp based on the history of voting

his numbers are good enough... 25/5/5 ? no other guy with a legit team has better stats without a second mvp on his team cept rose


Sorry but voters are not retarded, so they won't vote Kobe for MVP

[Bigsmoke]

lol the heat right now are built on 3 players scoring 90% of their points

obviously if you take away 1 of them they fail. this is why they wont win the championship.

if 1 of them has a bad night they lose

mvp 99% of the time goes to a confrence #1 seed. only time it doesnt is when a team has more than 1 mvp or doesnt have any mvp type player. then it goes to the next best option on the 2 second seeds

so right now the mvp should belong to either

A) Kobe

or

B) Rose

Hell, Lebron is still having a better year than Kobe :oldlol:

[tpols]

Sorry but voters are not retarded, so they won't vote Kobe for MVP
Are you sure you're not voting?

[griffmoney1784]

just like in 2008... i feel like everything is meant to go wrong for everyone else in order for kobe to get mvp


lebron and wade taking each other out. the spurs taking tim out of mvp numbers... the celtics taking garnett out of mvp numbers and thus both having an 04 piston type all around effort...

its obvious kobe or rose will win mvp.... it all depends on if lakers get the #1 seed. if they do kobe. if they dont rose or dirk wins it

[Wuxia]

he's averaging 29/6/3 60 TS% on a team on pace for 55 wins, Heat on pace for 60 wins with 3 all stars. you're one dumb motherfvcker


Also the Heat lost to the freaking Clippers last night with LeBron and gave up 65 points in the first half. I guess that didn't happen?

the argument against lebron and durant is they both have a super star on their team putting up ridiculous numbers.

[knightfall88]

no one on the Heat is going to get MVP just like how no one in Boston got an MVP in 2008.

[KG5MVP]

the argument against lebron and durant is they both have a super star on their team putting up ridiculous numbers.

The thing is i would rather have Odom/Gasol/Bynum over any other MVP-candidate in the league besides lebron. It's the Lakers frontcourt that's keep the Lakers good, not Kobe.

[YouCallILose]

the argument against lebron and durant is they both have a super star on their team putting up ridiculous numbers.

Westbrook is putting up 23/5/8 on 53 TS% with 4 of those assists coming from Durant making jumpers

Wade is putting up 25/7/4 on 58 TS%

Don't compare Westbrook & Wade, Wade is the MUCH better player. Not even close. The past month Westbrook is shooting 39% from the field, Durant is shooting 55%

[griffmoney1784]

Sorry but voters are not retarded, so they won't vote Kobe for MVP


mvp voters have always favored record over "amaizing stats"

its always been the best player on 2 of the top seeds from east or west.

only 3 times in the past 30 years has it not been...

moses, jordan and nash... i think

this year might be another time if spurs and celts hold on to both #1 seeds

[Wuxia]

its not about what you prefer. its about what the voters think haha.

[asdf1990]

he's averaging 29/6/3 60 TS% on a team on pace for 55 wins, Heat on pace for 60 wins with 3 all stars. you're one dumb motherfvcker


Also the Heat lost to the freaking Clippers last night with LeBron and gave up 65 points in the first half. I guess that didn't happen?

Lol Durant MVP.

[KG5MVP]

mvp voters have always favored record over "amaizing stats"

its always been the best player on 2 of the top seeds from east or west.

only 3 times in the past 30 years has it not been...

moses, jordan and nash... i think

this year might be another time if spurs and celts hold on to both #1 seeds

the thing is kobe is not putting amazing stats, his efficiency has been sh1t this season

[Wuxia]

Westbrook is putting up 23/5/8 on 53 TS% with 4 of those assists coming from Durant making jumpers

Wade is putting up 25/7/4 on 58 TS%

Don't compare Westbrook & Wade, Wade is the MUCH better player. Not even close. The past month Westbrook is shooting 39% from the field, Durant is shooting 55%

i agree that wade is much better but you act as if those stats are not close, lol....

[YouCallILose]

Lol Durant MVP.

If you really don't think Durant is making a run at the MVP you're beyond delusional. Since December 1 he's averaging 30/6/3.5 on 53 FG% 40 3P% 59 eFG% 65 TS%

[M.V.P]

he's averaging 29/6/3 60 TS% on a team on pace for 55 wins, Heat on pace for 60 wins with 3 all stars. you're one dumb motherfvcker


Also the Heat lost to the freaking Clippers last night with LeBron and gave up 65 points in the first half. I guess that didn't happen?
Durant will become a top 3 candidate by the end. He's now at high efficiency percentages, and his team has a good record. Whether the voters will overlook the slow start is what's going to determine how high he finishes.

Rose is high there too, and so are Dirk and Dwight. LeBron, Wade, and especially Kobe are not deserving at this point at all, nor will they by the end of this season.

[KG5MVP]

Rose shouldn't even be in MVP discussion, he's playing like a piece of cow feces lately

[YouCallILose]

i agree that wade is much better but you act as if those stats are not close, lol....

Westbrook is averaging 21.9 ppg on 17.3 FGA

Wade is averaging 25.1 ppg on 17.7 FGA

that is a massive difference. That's like Granger vs Durant last season

[Walduś]

If you really don't think Durant is making a run at the MVP you're beyond delusional. Since December 1 he's averaging 30/6/3.5 on 53 FG% 40 3P% 59 eFG% 65 TS%
averaging like 4 turnovers per game. :oldlol:

[Wuxia]

if you look at stats alone, Lebron's stats blows anyone's out of the water.

[YouCallILose]

averaging like 4 turnovers per game. :oldlol:

3.3 assists per game, 3.2 to/g

Kobe averaged more turnovers per game in December than Durant did

[asdf1990]

Westbrook is averaging 21.9 ppg on 17.3 FGA

Wade is averaging 25.1 ppg on 17.7 FGA

that is a massive difference. That's like Granger vs Durant last season

Granger was better.

[KG5MVP]

3.3 assists per game, 3.2 to/g

that's why Durant shouldn't be MVp, he's not making his teammates better, he's just a scorer.

Lebron on the other hand is scoring, rebounding, assisting, and defending

[griffmoney1784]

the thing is kobe is not putting amazing stats, his efficiency has been sh1t this season


hes right on his career average... 25/5/5 on 45% ...

and think about this... kobe starts chucking allot after allstar break. always has....

mark my words... if lakers get #1 overall record in west. kobe wins mvp. he has allot of the voters in his pocket already. imagine how many he will have with lebron and wade being snubbed...

trust me

TO EVERYONE WHO IS A NOOB. THE MVP 90% OF THE TIME HAS BEEN A REGULAR SEASON BEST TEAM RECORD AWARD.

[tpols]

the thing is kobe is not putting amazing stats, his efficiency has been sh1t this season
What?

25.2/5.1/4.6 on 45%FG and 55%TS and in only 33 minutes a game

Very good numbers(his PER is actually higher right now than the year he won the MVP).

I don't think he'll get MVP though unless he goes very hard the rest of the season. I wouldn't want him to do that anyways because kobe saving his legs for the playoffs and another championship run is WAY more important.

[YouCallILose]

that's why Durant shouldn't be MVp, he's not making his teammates better, he's just a scorer.

Lebron on the other hand is scoring, rebounding, assisting, and defending

LOL

Rebounding is pretty much equal, Durant blocks twice as many shots, scores more points more efficiently, and can actually play off of the ball. LeBron doesn't even know what off of the ball means except quitting in game 5

[Bigsmoke]

To me. If the Thunder could win around 55 games then the Durant is gonna run away with it.

[KG5MVP]

hes right on his career average... 25/5/5 on 45% ...

and think about this... kobe starts chucking allot after allstar break. always has....

mark my words... if lakers get #1 overall record in west. kobe wins mvp. he has allot of the voters in his pocket already. imagine how many he will have with lebron and wade being snubbed...

trust me

TO EVERYONE WHO IS A NOOB. THE MVP 90% OF THE TIME HAS BEEN A REGULAR SEASON BEST TEAM RECORD AWARD.

I agree with that, but I don't think Lakers will end up with the best record, probably Heat

[Monkey D Dragon]

The thing is i would rather have Odom/Gasol/Bynum over any other MVP-candidate in the league besides lebron. It's the Lakers frontcourt that's keep the Lakers good, not Kobe.


bottom line retard

[asdf1990]

Maybe if the voters wanna give him another sympathy MVP.



hes right on his career average... 25/5/5 on 45% ...

and think about this... kobe starts chucking allot after allstar break. always has....

mark my words... if lakers get #1 overall record in west. kobe wins mvp. he has allot of the voters in his pocket already. imagine how many he will have with lebron and wade being snubbed...

trust me

TO EVERYONE WHO IS A NOOB. THE MVP 90% OF THE TIME HAS BEEN A REGULAR SEASON BEST TEAM RECORD AWARD.

[YouCallILose]

To me. If the Thunder could win around 55 games then the Durant is gonna run away with it.

Exactly. He's on pace to put up even better numbers than last season considering his numbers over the past 25 games.

He's probably going to end up around 30 ppg 6.5 rpg 3 apg on 50 FG% 62 TS% and run away with it

[KG5MVP]

bottom line retard

you are retarded.

[gts]

yes it's clear that the heat are having a rough night with james on the bench but missing one game is not enough to base the MVP on...

and if it was, then he wouldn't get the mvp because he didn't play...

[Wuxia]

LOL

Rebounding is pretty much equal, Durant blocks twice as many shots, scores more points more efficiently, and can actually play off of the ball. LeBron doesn't even know what off of the ball means except quitting in game 5

did you really just say Durant blocks twice as many shots as lebron?


lmao

[KG5MVP]

yes it's clear that the heat are having a rough night with james on the bench but missing one game is not enough to base the MVP on...

and if it was, then he wouldn't get the mvp because he didn't play...

Look at the Cavaliers

[YouCallILose]

did you really just say Durant blocks twice as many shots as lebron?


lmao

LeBron .45 blocks per game
Durant 1.0 blocks per game

more than twice as many shots
he blocked more shots than LeBron last year too and rebounded the ball better

[asdf1990]

LOL

Rebounding is pretty much equal, Durant blocks twice as many shots, scores more points more efficiently, and can actually play off of the ball. LeBron doesn't even know what off of the ball means except quitting in game 5

What was Durants ts in the playoffs?

[macpierce]

you are retarded.
pot calling the kettle black
:applause:

[tpols]

Exactly. He's on pace to put up even better numbers than last season considering his numbers over the past 25 games.

He's probably going to end up around 30 ppg 6.5 rpg 3 apg on 50 FG% 62 TS% and run away with it
OKC is a very good team without durant too though. Theyre great defensively and have a bunch of guys who are smart players and know their roles(as well as a very good top 5 PG).

And they'll still likely finish only 3rd or 4th in the west with the lakers, spurs, and mavericks ahead of them. Durant's not winning shit.

[KG5MVP]

pot calling the kettle black
:applause:

I am just using his logic

[YouCallILose]

What was Durants ts in the playoffs?

oh you mean vs the nba champs?

better than lebrons the 2 times he played the nba champs

[Ne 1]

lol the heat right now are built on 3 players scoring 90% of their points

obviously if you take away 1 of them they fail. this is why they wont win the championship.

if 1 of them has a bad night they lose

mvp 99% of the time goes to a confrence #1 seed. only time it doesnt is when a team has more than 1 mvp or doesnt have any mvp type player. then it goes to the next best option on the 2 second seeds

so right now the mvp should belong to either

A) Kobe




or

B) Rose


:cheers:

Welcome back griffmoney.

[Wuxia]

LeBron .45 blocks per game
Durant 1.0 blocks per game

more than twice as many shots
he blocked more shots than LeBron last year too and rebounded the ball better

i'm not saying it isn't true. thats just a really weak argument. Lebron is heaps and bounds better defensively no matter what the number of block shots indicate.

[KG5MVP]

:cheers:

Welcome back griffmoney.

sweet invite all your kobe homers here for a party:party:

[tpols]

you are retarded.
The fact that you couldn't come up with your own response and just imitated what he said reaffirms his statement if there was any lingering doubt remaining.

[Lebron23]

oh you mean vs the nba champs?

better than lebrons the 2 times he played the nba champs


Watch some games. LeBron is a better defender than Durant.

[YouCallILose]

OKC is a very good team without durant too though. Theyre great defensively and have a bunch of guys who are smart players and know their roles(as well as a very good top 5 PG).

And they'll still likely finish only 3rd or 4th in the west with the lakers, spurs, and mavericks ahead of them. Durant's not winning shit.

lol

pg-22 ppg 8 apg 42 FG%
sg-6 ppg 45 FG%
backup sf-1 ppg 40 FG%
PF-16 ppg 6 rpg .4 BPG 42 FG%
C-7 ppg 6 rpg .4 BPG 46 FG%


ya that team is a real juggernaut. helluva front line. btw kevin love averages 21/16 by himself. that center/pf/sf combo averages 24/12

[griffmoney1784]

I agree with that, but I don't think Lakers will end up with the best record, probably Heat


and like i said before... the runner up gets the award when a top record team has no mvp candidate or more than one


manu = not good enough
rondo = not good enough
heat = lebron and wade both averaging 25ppg ( why would either get the mvp over kobe with 25ppg whos next best option is 18ppg?)

so you see... kobes in perfect position to nab his second mvp award

all he has to do is finish with atleast the next best record after those 3 teams

[Bigsmoke]

Exactly. He's on pace to put up even better numbers than last season considering his numbers over the past 25 games.

He's probably going to end up around 30 ppg 6.5 rpg 3 apg on 50 FG% 62 TS% and run away with it

that sounds about right.

[YouCallILose]

i'm not saying it isn't true. thats just a really weak argument. Lebron is heaps and bounds better defensively no matter what the number of block shots indicate.


and durant creates a ton of open shots for teammates by demanding attention off of the ball which noone likes to talk about. watch some games

[KG5MVP]

The fact that you couldn't come up with your own response and just imitated what he said reaffirms his statement if there was any lingering doubt remaining.

how do you use logic and reason to convince someone that has no capacity for reason in the first place?

if he has any logic and reason he would be able to provide an argument to criticize my statement instead of just saying it's retarded.

[Wuxia]

I can't believe how everyone is forgetting about Dirk. His numbers are great and he led the mavs to the league's best record before he got hurt. Now they are shit but once he gets back, I see them getting a top 2 seed.

I think Amare gets it if the Knicks end up with a top 3 seed (not very likely).

Rose gets it if the bulls get a top 2 seed (again not likely)

In the end, I think it will be between Lebron and Dirk.

[asdf1990]

oh you mean vs the nba champs?

better than lebrons the 2 times he played the nba champs
Lol he got shut down by an old Ron artestt, while lebron had to go against double And triple teams. Nice try though.

[KG5MVP]

I can't believe how everyone is forgetting about Dirk. His numbers are great and he led the mavs to the league's best record before he got hurt. Now they are shit but once he gets back, I see them getting a top 2 seed.

I think Amare gets it if the Knicks end up with a top 3 seed (not very likely).

Rose gets it if the bulls get a top 2 seed (again not likely)

In the end, I think it will be between Lebron and Dirk.

If this is a perfectly just and unbiased world, Dirk or Stoudemire should be MVP. But no, this world is biased, so probably Lebron or Kobe will win. However Lebron is more deserving.

[Walduś]

and like i said before... the runner up gets the award when a top record team has no mvp candidate or more than one


manu = not good enough
rondo = not good enough
heat = lebron and wade both averaging 25ppg ( why would either get the mvp over kobe with 25ppg whos next best option is 18ppg?)

so you see... kobes in perfect position to nab his second mvp award

all he has to do is finish with atleast the next best record after those 3 teams
:applause:

[griffmoney1784]

I can't believe how everyone is forgetting about Dirk. His numbers are great and he led the mavs to the league's best record before he got hurt. Now they are shit but once he gets back, I see them getting a top 2 seed.

I think Amare gets it if the Knicks end up with a top 3 seed (not very likely).

Rose gets it if the bulls get a top 2 seed (again not likely)

In the end, I think it will be between Lebron and Dirk.


my money is on dirk, rose, kobe

no other guy has a chance imo... record and their second options stats makes them the best candidates.

one of those 3 will win mvp... unless lebron totally takes over and wade gets injured

[Wuxia]

and durant creates a ton of open shots for teammates by demanding attention off of the ball which noone likes to talk about. watch some games

You are being a tool dude. You are saying Lebron doesn't do this.

[KG5MVP]

You are being a tool dude. You are saying Lebron doesn't do this.

just ignore him he's retarded

[YouCallILose]

You are being a tool dude. You are saying Lebron doesn't do this.

Are you seriously claiming LeBron demands attention off the ball when he's standing 20 feet away from the basket or running off of screens? you can not be serious

holy shit lebron stans are delusional. everything i say about durant is factual

[Wuxia]

my money is on dirk, rose, kobe

no other guy has a chance imo... record and their second options stats makes them the best candidates.

one of those 3 will win mvp... unless lebron totally takes over and wade gets injured

Yea, you're right. Kobe has a chance.

I think it will be.

1. Dirk
2. Lebron
3. Kobe

it really depends on who gets the first seed.

[tpols]

lol

pg-22 ppg 8 apg 42 FG%
sg-6 ppg 45 FG%
backup sf-1 ppg 40 FG%
PF-16 ppg 6 rpg .4 BPG 42 FG%
C-7 ppg 6 rpg .4 BPG 46 FG%


ya that team is a real juggernaut. helluva front line. btw kevin love averages 21/16 by himself. that center/pf/sf combo averages 24/12
Numbers don't do the team justice though. Harden and green are both good offensive and defensive players who can create their own offense. Ibaka is a very good defensive player/rebounder. Westbrook is a good man to man defender, and a very good help defender who can break down any defense with his quickness and ballhandling ability(he's also extremely mentally tough and clutch, and a very good offensive player in general). Then you have another defensive stopper in sefolosha.

You can post FG percentages all you want but the point is this team already has a bunch of guys who can create their own offense and who are all good to great defenders. There's no denying this team minus durant easily wins 40 games so durant adds 10-15 games to them. Not MVP worthy to me especially considering this team wont even be high enough in the standings for it to be a consideration.

[Lebron23]

my money is on dirk, rose, kobe

no other guy has a chance imo... record and their second options stats makes them the best candidates.

one of those 3 will win mvp... unless lebron totally takes over and wade gets injured


Go to hell.

Dirk, Rose, LeBron, Wade, Amare and Dwight are my top 6 MVP Candidates.

[Mr. Jabbar]

Sorry lebron homers, no mvp for lequit, come june, all is gonna be left of him are his failure tweets :lol

[gts]

Go to hell.be careful.. karma is a b*tch

[KG5MVP]

Sorry lebron homers, no mvp for lequit, come june, all is gonna be left of him are his failure tweets :lol

just like Kobe failed every june without shaq and gasol :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Lebron23]

be careful.. karma is a b*tch


I don't believe in Karma.

[KG5MVP]

be careful.. karma is a b*tch

if karma is real Kobe should of been raped long time ago :lol :lol

[Wuxia]

lebron does

[Ne 1]

just like Kobe failed every june without shaq and gasol :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Just like Shaq failed every June without Kobe and Wade? :rolleyes:

Just like Gasol failed every playoff game he ever played without Kobe? (0-12 in the post season) :rolleyes:

[Mr. Jabbar]

if karma is real Kobe should of been raped long time ago :lol :lol

karma IS real, that colorado girl is now bankrupt

[KG5MVP]

Just like Shaq failed every June without Kobe and Wade? :rolleyes:

Just like Gasol failed every playoff game he ever played without Kobe? (0-12 in the post season) :rolleyes:


just like kobe failed every playoffs without fisher :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[Walduś]

just like Kobe failed every june without shaq and gasol :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
just like jordan failed to get to may without pippen. :oldlol:

[griffmoney1784]

Yea, you're right. Kobe has a chance.

I think it will be.

1. Dirk
2. Lebron
3. Kobe

it really depends on who gets the first seed.


if lebron didnt win the mvp the last 2 years

and wade wasnt averaging the exact same points as lebron

then i could let slide the fact that dwyane freaking wade is his 2nd option

but not when wades averaging the same ppg lol.... and theres no such thing as a co-mvp

[Lebron23]

He's not even the best SG in the Association.

[Walduś]

He's not even the best SG in the Association.
he's better than lebrick

[Lebron23]

I am just telling the truth.

[KG5MVP]

he's better than lebrick

and the earth is flat

[Ne 1]

just like kobe failed every playoffs without fisher :rolleyes: :rolleyes:


At least Kobe has 4 playoff wins without Fisher.

Gasol has 0 playoff wins without Kobe!

[KG5MVP]

At least Kobe has 4 playoff wins without Fisher.

Gasol has 0 playoff wins without Kobe!

o sh1t you're right kobe is amazing

[Lebron23]

and the earth is flat


Waldus is a good poster.

[Wuxia]

if i had to chose, it would be dwight. There is not a single player as important to his team as he is on both side of the floor.

[Ne 1]

just like jordan failed to get to may without pippen. :oldlol:

MJ= 1-9 in the playoffs and had 5 seasons below .500 without Pippen. :oldlol:

[Walduś]

I am just telling the truth.
lebron quits in the playoffs, i'm just telling the truth.

[KG5MVP]

lebron quits in the playoffs, i'm just telling the truth.

kobe quit in game 7, i'm just telling the truth

[Wuxia]

lebron quits in the playoffs, i'm just telling the truth.

have you seen the Cavs this year? i don't blame him :P

[Lebron23]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2075/3528861357_8efbcbfc7e_o.jpg

[Walduś]

MJ= 1-9 in the playoffs and had 5 seasons below .500 without Pippen. :oldlol:
yep, pippen is the one who should have 6 fmvps.

[Ne 1]

lebron quits in the playoffs, i'm just telling the truth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q9KJA6ONws

:lol

[Walduś]

kobe quit in game 7, i'm just telling the truth
lol go watch game 5 :oldlol:

[Lebron23]

Waldus, Ne1, Griffinmoney84, and Mr. Jabbar are crying.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L-6xp13j0yc/S8CYy_nnMpI/AAAAAAAABS4/Pzjw9QZctms/s400/Simpsons_Homer_crying.gif

[Walduś]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q9KJA6ONws

:lol
:oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX2qrymQBS4

[griffmoney1784]

He's not even the best SG in the Association.


i will admit wade and kobe right now are neck and neck for leagues top sg... kobe is in his 15th year and he cant be the goat forever

but since when has the mvp ever been about being the best player

if it was kobe would have won it in 5 times. the players used to vote for mvp and in player polls kobe was voted leagues best every year almost for a decade

kareem has 6 because of that method of voting


so if the mvp truely has been turned into a garbage award no one cares about. why must you guys try and change the meaning now after kobes been robbed so many times?

kobe diserves atleast one more mvp to make up for his snubs lol

[BallsOut]

He's not even the best SG in the Association.

http://i47.tinypic.com/es98ht.jpg

[KG5MVP]

lol go watch game 5 :oldlol:

lol go watch 2009 series lebron vs. orlando magic

[KG5MVP]

Waldus, Ne1, Griffinmoney84, and Mr. Jabbar are crying.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_L-6xp13j0yc/S8CYy_nnMpI/AAAAAAAABS4/Pzjw9QZctms/s400/Simpsons_Homer_crying.gif

griffinmoney84 is actually not a bad poster, at least he provides support for his claims

[Walduś]

lol go watch 2009 series lebron vs. orlando magic
i did, and saw a lot of lebricks in the 4th qtrs.

[KG5MVP]

i did, and saw a lot of lebricks in the 4th qtrs.

he put up better stats in that series than kobe in at any time of his career

[Lebron23]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3307/3538971241_7d9d70a2fa.jpg

[Ne 1]

he put up better stats in that series than kobe in at any time of his career

Damn but Le-stat padder still has 0 rings. :confusedshrug:

[NBASTATMAN]

They won 47 games last year with no LeBron & no Bosh

it's 1 game, relax

Wade+Bosh=55 wins

that being said the MVP will be LeBron, Durant, or Howard



If any of the big three are hurt this team gets very weak cuz they don't have much more than those three players... So 55 wins without any of those guys would not happen... 45-50 Wins if they played very well...

[RoseCity07]

Will someone please take the time to explain to me how Lebron quit on his team in the playoffs last year. I saw his numbers, even watched the game.

He was the only chance they had, and he had an amazing game. To a typical all-star that would be the game of a life time. Yet for Lebron, that was considered quitting.

[NBASTATMAN]

Damn but Le-stat padder still has 0 rings. :confusedshrug:

lEBRON is a stat padder but Kobe is more of a stat padder.. I swear Kobe has scored more points in garbage time than any superstar ever.. Lebron just trying to mock him... :lol

[Wuxia]

If any of the big three are hurt this team gets very weak cuz they don't have much more than those three players... So 55 wins without any of those guys would not happen... 45-50 Wins if they played very well...

i don't think they need bosh once Haslem gets back. Lebron and Wade can do all the scoring. all the other guys have to do is defend, rebound, and get the occasional putbacks :P

[NBASTATMAN]

Will someone please take the time to explain to me how Lebron quit on his team in the playoffs last year. I saw his numbers, even watched the game.

He was the only chance they had, and he had an amazing game. To a typical all-star that would be the game of a life time. Yet for Lebron, that was considered quitting.


i think he quit in game 5.. He looked like he didn't care.. Kobe and Mj have done the same thing.. But they got rings....

[Ne 1]

Will someone please take the time to explain to me how Lebron quit on his team in the playoffs last year. I saw his numbers, even watched the game.

He was the only chance they had, and he had an amazing game. To a typical all-star that would be the game of a life time. Yet for Lebron, that was considered quitting.

But somehow they managed to stay competitive with the Celtics when LeBron shot 2-20 and had 10 turnovers.

[NBASTATMAN]

i don't think they need bosh once Haslem gets back. Lebron and Wade can do all the scoring. all the other guys have to do is defend, rebound, and get the occasional putbacks :P


Bosh is their best shooter.. And the only guy who can post up.. Well a little bit.. Lebron is getting better though.. Wade can do it but doesn't.. Don't know why. They need Bosh...

Take a look at OKCITY.. They have two dominate players but they also have some nice quality role players...Miami is lakcing that.

[NBASTATMAN]

just like jordan failed to get to may without pippen. :oldlol:


What do you mean? He was on the gold course in MAY...:lol


He got passed the first round when Pippen was a bench player...

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Bosh is their best shooter.. And the only guy who can post up.. Well a little bit.. Lebron is getting better though.. Wade can do it but doesn't.. Don't know why. They need Bosh...

Take a look at OKCITY.. They have two dominate players but they also have some nice quality role players...Miami is lakcing that.

Bosh can post up well and from the times I've watched him in the post on the right block he is deadly. It's just that he has been reduced to pick and pop guy with Miami because their half court offense is terrible. Also, a lot of times neither Wade or LeBron will even look for him in the post. He is deadly when he gets the ball in the right spot but neither he nor they look for it that often is the problem

[PistonsFan#21]

But somehow they managed to stay competitive with the Celtics when LeBron shot 2-20 and had 10 turnovers.

Too bad this never happened :hammerhead:

[Wuxia]

Bosh is their best shooter.. And the only guy who can post up.. Well a little bit.. Lebron is getting better though.. Wade can do it but doesn't.. Don't know why. They need Bosh...

Take a look at OKCITY.. They have two dominate players but they also have some nice quality role players...Miami is lakcing that.

exactly. take a look at OKC. they have 2 wing guys. all their other guys are re bounders and defenders.

lets be honest here. bosh's strength is not his post game. most of his basket are face up 15 footers. any bum can do that. he is an excellent free throw shooter though which is huge.

[Ne 1]

He got passed the first round when Pippen was a bench player...

The Bulls finally got passed the first round when Pippen came up huge in a do or or die game 5 his rookie year and closed out the Cavs.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M79eJyW_T0M

And that was his first game as a starter. :bowdown:

[PistonsFan#21]

exactly. take a look at OKC. they have 2 wing guys. all their other guys are re bounders and defenders.

lets be honest here. bosh's strength is not his post game. most of his basket are face up 15 footers. any bum can do that. he is an excellent free throw shooter though which is huge.

Wasnt he getting 24 and 11 last season? Id love to have a bum like that on my team :pimp:

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Too bad this never happened :hammerhead:

Lol yea in Game 6 he went 8-21 and had 9 turnovers. Still bad but not as bad as he said. Game 5 is when he shot that 3-14 with like 13 points I think it was

[Wuxia]

Wasnt he getting 24 and 11 last season? Id love to have a bum like that on my team :pimp:

i didn't call him a bum. i'm saying he is very replaceable.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Wasnt he getting 24 and 11 last season? Id love to have a bum like that on my team :pimp:

He can score, but those rebounds were inflated. He played on the worst rebounding team in the league and played down low with a soft, perimeter center in Bargnani known for his lack of impact on the boards. So he can score, but I think his rebounding got exposed this year

[PistonsFan#21]

Lol yea in Game 6 he went 8-21 and had 9 turnovers. Still bad but not as bad as he said. Game 5 is when he shot that 3-14 with like 13 points I think it was

Well Kobe shot 6-24 FG in game 7 and he still ended up winning the championship. If only Lebron had the same supporting cast last year :bowdown:

[Wuxia]

yea, Bosh should be getting a ton more boards. the heat has no one down low.....

[Ne 1]

Well Kobe shot 6-24 FG in game 7 and he still ended up winning the championship. If only Lebron had the same supporting cast last year :bowdown:


"I thought in Game 7, what gets lost on people, Boston was badly out rebounded, and he [Kobe Bryant] didn't have a particularly good shooting night, but he had a great rebounding night and that probably was the difference of the game." - Tom Thibodeau

[G-Funk]

god damn how did kobe get into this conversation.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Well Kobe shot 6-24 FG in game 7 and he still ended up winning the championship. If only Lebron had the same supporting cast last year :bowdown:

Why you bring up Kobe? I thought we were discussing LeBron? In case you felt offended...I wasn't attacking him I was just correcting the other poster on his stats :rolleyes:

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

god damn how did kobe get into this conversation.

Mention LeBron having a bad game and 6-24 is bound to appear somewhere *sigh* :facepalm

[amfirst]

Well Kobe shot 6-24 FG in game 7 and he still ended up winning the championship. If only Lebron had the same supporting cast last year :bowdown:

True dat, didn't leBron shot 20% or something in the finals. :lol

[knightfall88]

Well Kobe shot 6-24 FG in game 7 and he still ended up winning the championship. If only Lebron had the same supporting cast last year :bowdown:

Lebron wishes he has the determination Kobe has. Someone needs to tell Lebron that he misses 100% of the shots he doesn't take.

[Monkey D Dragon]

I am just using his logic

Thats good since you have no logic u can borrow mine IDIOT :facepalm

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

True dat, didn't leBron shot 20% or something in the finals. :lol

Na he shot 32% in the finals but he shot like 20% from 3 point range :lol

[BlueandGold]

Mention LeBron having a bad game and 6-24 is bound to appear somewhere *sigh* :facepalm

Posters who say that are either butthurt Boston fans or insecure Lebron fans. Either way it's better than "game 7 loss" or "0 finals wins".

[Mr. Jabbar]

He should be content with the MVT (most valuable tweet) award

[Tha Catalyst]

Westbrook is averaging 21.9 ppg on 17.3 FGA

Wade is averaging 25.1 ppg on 17.7 FGA

that is a massive difference. That's like Granger vs Durant last season
Maybe I am mistaken but when people use ppg in the context of fga would they not be ignoring the fact of free throw attempts actually taking up a possession on offense, therefore being equivalent to a field goal attempt. How does this make players who attempt more free throws any more efficient offensively when they use an offensive possession just like a player would when attempting a shot. Can anybody enlighten me?

[Kurosawa0]

I do have to say, as bad as the Heat looked at times in Nov/Dec, last night was the worst. If they continue to look that bad without LeBron, he should get the MVP.

[ginobli2311]

"I thought in Game 7, what gets lost on people, Boston was badly out rebounded, and he [Kobe Bryant] didn't have a particularly good shooting night, but he had a great rebounding night and that probably was the difference of the game." - Tom Thibodeau

and lebron had 19 rebounds in the game 6 loss and continued his utter destroying of paul pierce on defense.

LOL....the double standards continue.

[alenleomessi]

1.James
2.Durant
3.Howard
4.Dirk


I doubt Knicks and Bulls can get better record than those

[ginobli2311]

lebron won't get mvp and he doesn't deserve it so far. he's been slightly better, if it all, than wade so far this year.

the heat's loss last night shows you that the heat's effort has really been poor lately and because of how good wade/lebron have been, they've been able to overcome it. without lebron or wade....the heat wouldn't be in a lot of those close games they've won.

the heat don't have any depth and they don't have a good bench. their pg's can't defend the elite pg's and their bigs can't defend anyone really. they get killed on the boards late in close games as well.

and this is not over-reacting in the regular season. the heat won't win a title in their current form. no way. over the course of a series, a team like the lakers/celtics will destroy them in the frount court. hell....a healthy bulls team might beat the heat. drose would destroy them and the front line would make it very hard for lebron/wade to consistently penetrate and get to the rim.

who would stop drose at the rim? nobody.

anthony/z/damp/bosh is simply not good enough to win a title in the nba right now.

they wouldn't beat dallas either.

you don't win titles in the nba with this many flaws in the most important areas. its going to take a year or two to get this team ready.

[MMM]

I would give it to LeBron before the likes of Amare

[oh the horror]

Little kids love overreacting after single games dont they?


The Heats recent loses are more a direct sign of the fact that Miami is so thin as a TEAM that when ONE of their "big three" is hobbled, or is flat out not playing due to injury, then the entire team generally crumbles. They simply must have all three guys on the court to win ball games.



Wade goes down? They'll lose to other decent teams.....Lebron goes down? They'll lose to other decent teams. Bosh? Same sh*t. This team is just not build enough around those three guys as well.



Lebron isnt winning any MVP folks. Come on now.

[pegasus]

This is getting ridiculous. First, you guys went all out and praised Lebron for how tough he is to be able to play against Denver after spraining his ankle in the Clippers game. Then, turns out, he is out for the Denver game. So you guys kissed his a$s all day yesterday for nothing. The guy was still out like every other player would have been after that kind of a sprain.

Now, after a game that he didn't even play in, you guys are announcing him as the MVP of the season again. How?! Just because Miami lost the toughest back-to-back road game in the league?

Miami has three stars, and if one of them is not playing or struggling, they will lose most of their games against the good-to-great teams. That's why they were 9-8 when Wade was struggling. Where was James to win those games if he is that good?

It's only normal for their team to struggle the same way when James is out. And don't tell me that Wade shot horribly in those 17 games, causing the loses. Wade's presence even when he shoots %30 >>>>>> not having him in the game as he would still draw too much attention from the opposing team even when he's not shooting well.

[ronniec]

Little kids love overreacting after single games dont they?


The Heats recent loses are more a direct sign of the fact that Miami is so thin as a TEAM that when ONE of their "big three" is hobbled, or is flat out not playing due to injury, then the entire team generally crumbles. They simply must have all three guys on the court to win ball games.



Wade goes down? They'll lose to other decent teams.....Lebron goes down? They'll lose to other decent teams. Bosh? Same sh*t. This team is just not build enough around those three guys as well.



Lebron isnt winning any MVP folks. Come on now.

Absolutely.
It is just like Wade was off in the beginning of the season (so did Bosh), and the Heat was having a tough time to win games just by Lebron.

[BallsOut]

anthony/z/damp/bosh is simply not good enough to win a title in the nba right now.


Too bad. That's what happens when you stack yourself with 3 max guys because your guys are afraid of competition. The Heat deserve no flexibility.

[tpols]

lebron won't get mvp and he doesn't deserve it so far. he's been slightly better, if it all, than wade so far this year.

the heat's loss last night shows you that the heat's effort has really been poor lately and because of how good wade/lebron have been, they've been able to overcome it. without lebron or wade....the heat wouldn't be in a lot of those close games they've won.

the heat don't have any depth and they don't have a good bench. their pg's can't defend the elite pg's and their bigs can't defend anyone really. they get killed on the boards late in close games as well.

and this is not over-reacting in the regular season. the heat won't win a title in their current form. no way. over the course of a series, a team like the lakers/celtics will destroy them in the frount court. hell....a healthy bulls team might beat the heat. drose would destroy them and the front line would make it very hard for lebron/wade to consistently penetrate and get to the rim.

who would stop drose at the rim? nobody.

anthony/z/damp/bosh is simply not good enough to win a title in the nba right now.

they wouldn't beat dallas either.

you don't win titles in the nba with this many flaws in the most important areas. its going to take a year or two to get this team ready.
You know what I've noticed this guy does.. he always says the heat team is going to lose so that there will be an excuse for if lebron fails.

In every heat game thread where they are losing, he predicts mid way through the game that the heat will lose.. and they have won every single time he's said that.

Last year with cleveland, he said the cavs would lose, which they did despite EVERY analyst picking them to win.. so that he would have an excuse as to why they lost.

And now this year, despite lebron being on a team with the second best player in the league and a PF that put up 24/11 just a year ago, he's saying they'll lose again. Literally one of the most stacked teams in the league that will finish number 1 in the east and could very well win a title.. and gino,once again, is saying they will probably lose for xyz reasons.

He's setting up excuses for why lebron won't win so that, if he doesn't win, there will be no backlash in his mind for lebron or wade because they weren't supposed to win anyways.

This is the same guy that thinks wade is better than kobe and lebron has been the most valuable team player in the history of the game(he thinks he can be put on any team in the league and that team would get the 1 seed easily and 60+wins) and despite how highly he praises these guys..he sets them up for failure every single time so that in the chance that they lose he'll have his bag of excuses, and if they win he'll be able to brag about how good they are.

It's bullshit. If the heat cant rise up and win it's on those guys. They have the talent to win. There will be no excuses this year or any of the years forthcoming.

[PullupJay]

3 years in a row?? That's bullspit. Lebron is always going to be lebron and. Average almost a triple double. Obviously going to be a top team playing with wade and bosh. You can't just keep giving him mvp it makes no sense. And ruins the league. Kobe bryant only has one mvp and you want to give lebron 3. In a row?
Anyways I think dwight howard or derik rose should win

[Indian guy]

Wade goes down? They'll lose to other decent teams.....Lebron goes down? They'll lose to other decent teams. Bosh? Same sh*t. This team is just not build enough around those three guys as well.

This argument doesn't really fly when you see how Miami fared in their 2 games w/o Wade this season.

LeBron, as we've learned with Cleveland too this season, brings so much more to the table than just numbers. He's arguably the best leader in the game, and his competitiveness is ridiculously underrated. No superstar takes less nights off. One of the many miracles about those Cleveland teams was that they simply never got blown out. Every game they played was competitive. That's all LeBron, because Cleveland now sports the worst point differential in the league. Miami last night played their first non-competitive game since November 22. Happened the very first game LeBron missed.

[tpols]

This argument doesn't really fly when you see how Miami fared in their 2 games w/o Wade this season.

LeBron, as we've learned with Cleveland too this season, brings so much more to the table than just numbers. He's arguably the best leader in the game, and his competitiveness is ridiculously underrated. No superstar takes less nights off. One of the many miracles about those Cleveland teams was that they simply never got blown out. Every game they played was competitive. That's all LeBron, because Cleveland now sports the worst point differential in the league. Miami last night played their first non-competitive game since November 22. Happened the very first game LeBron missed.
And the very same night after a back to back. And it was a road game against a very tough denver team that would be capable of 50+ wins this year if melo wasn't leaving.

Keep leaving out details and boiling everything down to lebron's absence.

[The Decision]

Yes, Miami is total sh1t without Lebron. I don't care if it's a back to back game, the Heats shouldn't lose this bad.

Just look at how bad Cavaliers and Heat play you will know that Lebron is the MFMVP (Mother ****ing Most Valuable Player)

:oldlol: :roll: :facepalm

Bosh for MFMVP((Mother ****ing Most Valuable Player) :lol

[Lebron23]

:oldlol: :roll: :facepalm

Bosh for MFMVP((Mother ****ing Most Valuable Player) :lol


He's still an MVP Candidate. You creepy Little B@stard.

[jrong]

Uh yeah, I think both LeBron and Wade disqualified themselves from MVP discussion with the way they played tonight.

[jrong]

This argument doesn't really fly when you see how Miami fared in their 2 games w/o Wade this season.

Including the one where LeBron and Bosh lost to Memphis without him?

[williams012]

Uh yeah, I think both LeBron and Wade disqualified themselves from MVP discussion with the way they played tonight.

how did you get green bars with a post like this?

ONE shitty game and someone is disqualified from winning MVP?!

[jrong]

how did you get green bars with a post like this?

ONE shitty game and someone is disqualified from winning MVP?!

It's called hyperbole.

And beyond that, it is the right of fans to beat up on their own team/players. If I want to say that they both suck after a bad loss when I'm pissed off, then it's my prerogative...

[100grandman]

Uh yeah, I think both LeBron and Wade disqualified themselves from MVP discussion with the way they played tonight.


I don't think one game disqualifies you from anything.

[Toizumi]

I don't think one game disqualifies you from anything.


yeah you totally get his post don't you :facepalm

I'll quote him for you :



It's called hyperbole.

[sh0wtime]

Uh yeah, I think both LeBron and Wade disqualified themselves from MVP discussion with the way they played tonight.

Lebron came of an anklesprain and no practice, the FG% was not ok but he had actually a good game, especially in the 4th quarter as he made all those clutch baskets, if Wade didnt fell asleep which left Joe Johnson just cruising in for a layup to tie the game then the Heat would probably won the game, to bad Lebron just missed the long bail out gamewinner shot.

[Tha Catalyst]

Lebron came of an anklesprain and no practice, the FG% was not ok but he had actually a good game, especially in the 4th quarter as he made all those clutch baskets, if Wade didnt fell asleep which left Joe Johnson just cruising in for a layup to tie the game then the Heat would probably won the game, to bad Lebron just missed the long bail out gamewinner shot.
Do you actually think he played a good game stats aside? He had his moments but overall it was a subpar game by his standards IMO.

[Lebron23]

Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, Mvp, Mvp

[KG5MVP]

Undisputed the best player in the league.

[M.Bustly15A5RU8]

he'd be putting up those stats a lot more but he's stupid to join up with another superstar ball dominant perimeter player

LelowIQ James

[DRoseOwnsACamry]

They won 47 games last year with no LeBron & no Bosh

it's 1 game, relax

Wade+Bosh=55 wins

that being said the MVP will be LeBron, Durant, or Howard
ENOUGH with your Durant, he isn't winning it this year

[mananmater]

Well even though the chances of him getting an mvp are not too high, he certainly is the mvp of his team, dont care what anybody say this is just the truth.