New Jersey Nets are walking away from the Melo Trade !!! Link inside

[ashbelly]

The team owner is on NBA.com giving an live interview www.nba.com/live1.

[bluechox2]

haha rusian media can care less about melo...
all the american media are clawing at questions about melo

[DRoseOwnsACamry]

Well, I was 85% sure that the trade wasn't going to be finalized.

[bluechox2]

chris sheridan is half way there

[MeLO MvP 15]

:D Thank the lord!

[ChuckOakley]

YES!!!

Finally.. some resolution!!!!

Way to show some balls Proky and end this charade!

[Rekindled]

watch melo getting traded to the lakers for fisher + walton tomorrow

[bluechox2]

denver man, end this and send him to the knicks

[NuggetsFan]

This sucks. I don't care what we get now or where he goes I just want him gone. Hope to god Karl and co. just sit him until he's gone. It's completely ridiculous having to watch him play when you know he doesn't care nor want's to be here.

Ship him to the Knicks for Eddy Curry for all I care now :oldlol:

[ashbelly]

Denver might end up in houston or Walk away as a free agent with nuggets getting nothing in return:hammerhead:

[RandyOrton]

knicks or what for melo now?

[New York Knicks]

What Melo wants, Melo gets. Time to call the Don and beg for that Knicks package

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/04/16/alg_walsh.jpg

[Scoooter]

YES!!!

Finally.. some resolution!!!!

Way to show some balls Proky and end this charade!
He's definitely got some brass ones. You don't get to where Mikhail Prokhorov is in life by being a soft, wishy-wash guy. He's kind of crazy too. He once lost a $30 million+ deposit on a villa in France.

I'd bet money he's had someone killed.

[NauruDude]

Not like they needed him any way. Very good team with out him.

[bluechox2]

What Melo wants, Melo gets. Time to call the Don and beg for that Knicks package

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/04/16/alg_walsh.jpg
:lol

or let him walk

[Nets fan 93]

What Melo wants, Melo gets. Time to call the Don and beg for that Knicks package

http://assets.nydailynews.com/img/2009/04/16/alg_walsh.jpg
That is one scary face lol.

Anyways it's about time. I am not gonna lie and say I am not pissed, because I am.:oldlol: :(
But... I'm just proud we have all the picks we have and now we can focus on the draft.
LOL at Denver. Nets don't really lose out on anything. Denver's future is what now? Lawson(possibly gallo and fields?) lol

[DRoseOwnsACamry]

New York, don't be stupid, just wait for him to be a FA...

[Nets fan 93]

New York, don't be stupid, just wait for him to be a FA...
I really hope that happens. This would be one of the funniest stories ever.

[bluechox2]

ny's biggest competition is gone, that is why the agent started talking to chicago to make ny give up more in the deal.

basically ny can say gallo, curry, first rounder, take it or leave it, no one else wants melo

[NuggetsFan]

LOL at Denver. Nets don't really lose out on anything. Denver's future is what now? Lawson(possibly gallo and fields?) lol

LOL at Denver? I don't think Net's fans should being laughing at anyone. You guy's have won what like 25 games in 2 years? :oldlol: . Melo averages more rebounds than your starting center. Favors has some nice potential no doubt but acting like the Net's all of a sudden are going to hit on all there draft picks is a joke itself.

NJ needed this deal just as much as Denver did. NJ would have actually been half decent with this deal. Now Net's fans will try and preach the future when it's completely uncertain. Free agency doesn't seem to work out well for you guy's so I'd hope you get lucky in the draft because that's probably your only hope at eclipsing the big 30 win mark :oldlol:


and yes I am mad

[knickscity]

New York, don't be stupid, just wait for him to be a FA...
You ain't lying. Screw them.

That is unless they want Curry's expirer and Roger Mason for Melo.:lol

This is actually unbelievable.

[bluechox2]

curry, couple pennies i found on the street...oh throw in a ice cream cone. done deal

[ChuckOakley]

LOL at Denver? I don't think Net's fans should being laughing at anyone. You guy's have won what like 25 games in 2 years? :oldlol: . Melo averages more rebounds than your starting center. Favors has some nice potential no doubt but acting like the Net's all of a sudden are going to hit on all there draft picks is a joke itself.

NJ needed this deal just as much as Denver did. NJ would have actually been half decent with this deal. Now Net's fans will try and preach the future when it's completely uncertain. Free agency doesn't seem to work out well for you guy's so I'd hope you get lucky in the draft because that's probably your only hope at eclipsing the big 30 win mark :oldlol:


and yes I am mad
LOL

I was gonna say U Mad?
No need.

I ain't mad.
I'm the happiest I've been since we won our 10th game last year
:D

See that's the great thing about sucking.. the wins mean sooo much more!

[flintstone]

This thing is a bigger joke than the L James trade :facepalm I expect Denver to come out of this looking a lot like Cleveland......except Denver will deserve it, and Cleveland did not.

[NuggetsFan]

LOL

I was gonna say U Mad?
No need.

I ain't mad.
I'm the happiest I've been since we won our 10th game last year
:D

See that's the great thing about sucking.. the wins mean sooo much more!

I'm mad cause NY is going to win now, and than having a Nets fan lol at your franchise stings alot :oldlol: .

I will leave with saying you lost out on a SF who's a better rebounder than your starting center :mad:

[knickscity]

Nets record should be better though.

It took the owner to say no.

That is sad in itself.

I wonder what he is thinking about them making all these deal and giving away decent players like that though, for future draft picks.

[dwightderon]

Well, damn.

Interesting on where NJ goes from here...but also if Melo is still moved? NY doesn't have to trade any assets...he'll sign there anyway as a FA. CHI or HOU may emerge as suitors in the deadline week as well. Sure puts DEN in an awkward position...everyone was so ready for players to move around :oldlol:

[bluechox2]

nets have like 5 first rounders...they should be better off

[knickscity]

Does Rip play now???

[ChuckOakley]

Nets record should be better though.

It took the owner to say no.

That is sad in itself.

I wonder what he is thinking about them making all these deal and giving away decent players like that though, for future draft picks.
Huh?
We traded only T.Will for two 1st rounders.
T.Will racks up DNP's in Houston, while Sasha has been much better than T.Will was in NJ.

[JustinJDW]

Nuggets are now ****ed. :oldlol:

[knickscity]

Amazingly the only person who hasn't updated their twitter is Chris Sheridan.

Guess he really had the scoop...he is half way there.

[elmachoborracho]

knicks are gonna wind up getting carmelo on the dirt-ass-cheap

said this to a co-worker two days ago:
watch him stay with the nuggets for the rest of the year and just sign or agree to a hilarious sign and trade at the end of the year

nets know he's not gonna re-sign there. it'd be stupid to give up anything of significant value. knicks know he wants to come to nyc, so they can afford to be patient with his time contract expiring (explaining their patience and how little they've put forward for this deal)

everybody called everybody's bluff and now nothing will happen until either the deadline and the knicks get him for dirt-cheap or the offseason, when they get him for nothing or next to nothing

http://www.ice-dotcom.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Carmelo-Anthony-Knicks-Unform-ICEDOTCOM-460x614.jpg

[bluechox2]

5 cents on the dollar

[Jasper]

Before the season started I was 50% trade him and 50% don't .

Denver should of played him every minute of every game he was healthy to get ever penny out of him.
He IMO acted some what like a punk through the season ... .

See Vince Carter final year in Toronto.

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The other idea was to trade him as soon as possible.

So Denver tween'd it ..... whether they got /get what they wanted is for us to judge in a year or two.

[elmachoborracho]

5 cents on the dollar
his being so open about wanting to be a knick has made it really tough on denver

at this point, i think it's all but inevitable
he's ****ing denver pretty bad, but he wants to be a knick - can't fault a man for having preferences

[elmachoborracho]

Before the season started I was 50% trade him and 50% don't .

Denver should of played him every minute of every game he was healthy to get ever penny out of him.
He IMO acted some what like a punk through the season ... .

See Vince Carter final year in Toronto.

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The other idea was to trade him as soon as possible.

So Denver tween'd it ..... whether they got /get what they wanted is for us to judge in a year or two.

that early-season commercial: "here we go again"
come on
any more clear?
we get it: the decision 2.0
he just sucks at suspense
ny awaits your one-way plane ticket

HEAT look forward to continue basing the knicks

[NuggetsFan]

Knicks package will the same as it was always was going to be. Get one of Gallo\Chandler\Fields and whatever pick they can give up. People are kidding themselves if Knicks are going to get Melo for Eddy Curry or something. FA isn't what Melo wants to do like it's been explained 100x with the CBA and so forth.

Doesn't really matter cause regardless of what Knicks fans there's no way they turn down Melo for Gallo\1st and Curry. Just wouldn't happen.

[elmachoborracho]

Knicks package will the same as it was always was going to be. Get one of Gallo\Chandler\Fields and whatever pick they can give up. People are kidding themselves if Knicks are going to get Melo for Eddy Curry or something. FA isn't what Melo wants to do like it's been explained 100x with the CBA and so forth.

Doesn't really matter cause regardless of what Knicks fans there's no way they turn down Melo for Gallo\1st and Curry. Just wouldn't happen.

yea salaries are still going to have to work out toward the cap
but i'm not sure what changes to the CBA will mean

[Nets fan 93]

LOL at Denver? I don't think Net's fans should being laughing at anyone. You guy's have won what like 25 games in 2 years? :oldlol: . Melo averages more rebounds than your starting center. Favors has some nice potential no doubt but acting like the Net's all of a sudden are going to hit on all there draft picks is a joke itself.

NJ needed this deal just as much as Denver did. NJ would have actually been half decent with this deal. Now Net's fans will try and preach the future when it's completely uncertain. Free agency doesn't seem to work out well for you guy's so I'd hope you get lucky in the draft because that's probably your only hope at eclipsing the big 30 win mark :oldlol:


and yes I am mad
I'm sorry to say this. But you will probably be going with the same situation. Why would the knicks trade for him when he can just sign as a FA? the Nets have pulled out. it will be a similar situation the the cavs.
I'd rather build in the draft than with a whiny "superstar". Denver got greedy. At least the Nets have Lopez. Who will be the Denver building block? undersized Ty Lawson. okay. Cavs 2.0?

[Faberg]

Get that Carmelo #15 out of here. :facepalm

Number 15 is retired.

[bluechox2]

denver is better off as a team than the cavs are

[NuggetsFan]

I'm sorry to say this. But you will probably be going with the same situation. Why would the knicks trade for him when he can just sign as a FA? the Nets have pulled out. it will be a similar situation the the cavs.
I'd rather build in the draft than with a whiny "superstar". Denver got greedy. At least the Nets have Lopez. Who will be the Denver building block? undersized Ty Lawson. okay. Cavs 2.0?

Cavs 2.0? Why do people have this thought that Melo carries Denver? It's nowhere near like LeBron. Lawson undersized? Ok. Your center grabs 5.9 rebounds a game. Melo out boards your starting center. Denver without Melo is still much better than NJ. If they choose to go in the direction of rebuilding and getting cap space + sucking than you may LOL at them. But not until the Net's breech the 30 game win mark. Should be an unwritten rule.

[niko]

Cavs 2.0? Why do people have this thought that Melo carries Denver? It's nowhere near like LeBron. Lawson undersized? Ok. Your center grabs 5.9 rebounds a game. Melo out boards your starting center. Denver without Melo is still much better than NJ. If they choose to go in the direction of rebuilding and getting cap space + sucking than you may LOL at them. But not until the Net's breech the 30 game win mark. Should be an unwritten rule.
How about Gallo OR CHandler, Curry, and 2011 and 2013 picks (we'll trade Randolph for 2012, keep that one, give you the other two). We'll throw in Walker if absolutely necessary.

We on?

[bluechox2]

How about Gallo OR CHandler, Curry, and 2011 and 2013 picks (we'll trade Randolph for 2012, keep that one, give you the other two). We'll throw in Walker if absolutely necessary.

We on?

sounds like a good deal
dont c anything better around:oldlol:

[Sarcastic]

Nets are better off. They should just build around Lopez/Favors front court. They have plenty of picks and will attract free agents in 1.5 years when they move to Brooklyn.

[Nets fan 93]

Cavs 2.0? Why do people have this thought that Melo carries Denver? It's nowhere near like LeBron. Lawson undersized? Ok. Your center grabs 5.9 rebounds a game. Melo out boards your starting center. Denver without Melo is still much better than NJ. If they choose to go in the direction of rebuilding and getting cap space + sucking than you may LOL at them. But not until the Net's breech the 30 game win mark. Should be an unwritten rule.
Yeah? A 22 year old center that lost 30 lbs of muscle in the summer due to Mono. I'm not saying Lawson is bad because he is undersized. What other team builds around a PG under 6ft tall? This is actually very similar to the Cleveland. Denver has a lot of Fa's just like Cleveland did. what makes you think they will all resign without Melo?

[niko]

Nets are better off. They should just build around Lopez/Favors front court. They have plenty of picks and will attract free agents in 1.5 years when they move to Brooklyn.
THey are better off. The revised trade with Rip was horrific and killed their cap until 2012.

[fubu05]

This talk about Denver sucking without Melo isn't true.

Lawson will be a stud, he may be undersized, but what he lacks in size, he makes up for in speed and upper-body strength. Not to mention he is a high-iq player and is a flat out winner (UNC)

They've still got Afflalo who can really stretch out the D with his 3pt shooting, and is a top 5 defensive SG.

2 players who have the intangibles to win, such as hustle, defense, and leadership. Build around this solid back-court and you have a future.

[SevereUpInHere]

How about Gallo OR CHandler, Curry, and 2011 and 2013 picks (we'll trade Randolph for 2012, keep that one, give you the other two). We'll throw in Walker if absolutely necessary.

We on?


Niko, we don't need to give all that up now. They get Gallo, one 1st and Curry. That's all Walsh will offer. We can just sign him next year. By the nets pulling out (or Melo telling them he wont re-sign there) it's made what we need to offer a lot lower.

[Blu]

Cavs 2.0? Why do people have this thought that Melo carries Denver? It's nowhere near like LeBron. Lawson undersized? Ok. Your center grabs 5.9 rebounds a game. Melo out boards your starting center. Denver without Melo is still much better than NJ. If they choose to go in the direction of rebuilding and getting cap space + sucking than you may LOL at them. But not until the Net's breech the 30 game win mark. Should be an unwritten rule.

Ur very optimistic on your team's future. Your team has a few bad contracts, will not get a high draft pick, your front office blew a very attractive deal, and your cornerstone is leaving.

Like I said, optimistic.

[Nets fan 93]

This talk about Denver sucking without Melo isn't true.

Lawson will be a stud, he may be undersized, but what he lacks in size, he makes up for in speed and upper-body strength. Not to mention he is a high-iq player and is a flat out winner (UNC)

They've still got Afflalo who can really stretch out the D with his 3pt shooting, and is a top 5 defensive SG.

2 players who have the intangibles to win, such as hustle, defense, and leadership. Build around this solid back-court and you have a future.
The same thing was thought about Harris-Courtney Lee.

[fubu05]

The same thing was thought about Harris-Courtney Lee.

Don't know who actually thinks that... Lawson/Afflalo > Harris/Lee

[NuggetsFan]

Yeah? A 22 year old center that lost 30 lbs of muscle in the summer due to Mono. I'm not saying Lawson is bad because he is undersized. What other team builds around a PG under 6ft tall? This is actually very similar to the Cleveland. Denver has a lot of Fa's just like Cleveland did. what makes you think they will all resign without Melo?

Who say's Denver's building around Lawson?. He'll be a poor man's Tony Parker and probably will peak at a above average starter. Noone is saying he'll be the building block. Denver's flat out better than NJ without Melo. NJ struggles to win 20 games a year the past 2 year. That 22 year old center has major impact huh. Must be the mono, only logical excuse for him struggling to average half double digit rebounds.

Not similiar to Cleveland at all actually. Cleveland lost the best player in the game. A type of talent that could very well end up as one of the best who's every stepped on the court. A 2x MVP. Melo's great. Top 10 player. Not the type of player who set's a franchise back 5 years like LeBron does.

Afflalo\Lawson\Nene. Chauncey could leave. K-Mart will expire. J.R will expire. Concerning the draft is so uncertain it's not even worth talking about. Ping pong balls can fall either way. What if Chicago never wins the lotto and doesn't get Rose?. Tons of teams hit and miss every year so won't even get into that.

The Net's have a better building block in Lopez\Favors. Better hope for the draft since they'll lock up another top 5 pick.

All I'm saying is the Net's have been the joke of the league the past 2 years. You shouldn't be loling at any franchise when yours has been that big of a joke. Sure they might have a better future, it remains to be seen. Personally any center that's shooting under 50% and struggles to grab 8 boards a game isn't as bright as it's been made to seem. You have your Al Jefferson like franchise player. Your team is hardly enough of a sure thing or has enough potential like those Bulls\Thunder teams did to go around laughing at another franchise. That's it.

Win more than 20 games before you talk shit about another franchise. Simple concept. I wouldn't go around laughing at the Celtics\Lakers franchise, esp not if Denver was as big of a joke as the Net's have been the past 2 years.

Yes I'm still mad but it's the harsh truth.

[niko]

This makes the TWIll trade even more stupid. A good young player gave up for picks that will probably produce a lesser player unless they get lucky.

[fubu05]

Who say's Denver's building around Lawson?. He'll be a poor man's Tony Parker and probably will peak at a above average starter. Noone is saying he'll be the building block. Denver's flat out better than NJ without Melo. NJ struggles to win 20 games a year the past 2 year. That 22 year old center has major impact huh. Must be the mono, only logical excuse for him struggling to average half double digit rebounds.

Not similiar to Cleveland at all actually. Cleveland lost the best player in the game. A type of talent that could very well end up as one of the best who's every stepped on the court. A 2x MVP. Melo's great. Top 10 player. Not the type of player who set's a franchise back 5 years like LeBron does.

Afflalo\Lawson\Nene. Chauncey could leave. K-Mart will expire. J.R will expire. Concerning the draft is so uncertain it's not even worth talking about. Ping pong balls can fall either way. What if Chicago never wins the lotto and doesn't get Rose?. Tons of teams hit and miss every year so won't even get into that.

The Net's have a better building block in Lopez\Favors. Better hope for the draft since they'll lock up another top 5 pick.

All I'm saying is the Net's have been the joke of the league the past 2 years. You shouldn't be loling at any franchise when yours has been that big of a joke. Sure they might have a better future, it remains to be seen. Personally any center that's shooting under 50% and struggles to grab 8 boards a game isn't as bright as it's been made to seem. You have your Al Jefferson like franchise player. Your team is hardly enough of a sure thing or has enough potential like those Bulls\Thunder teams did to go around laughing at another franchise. That's it.

Win more than 20 games before you talk shit about another franchise. Simple concept. I wouldn't go around laughing at the Celtics\Lakers franchise, esp not if Denver was as big of a joke as the Net's have been the past 2 years.

Yes I'm still mad but it's the harsh truth.

Lawson is a 18/10 guy or 19/9.... I would actually build around him. He showed he was very coach-able in college.

[ChuckOakley]

This makes the TWIll trade even more stupid. A good young player gave up for picks that will probably produce a lesser player unless they get lucky.
T.Will trade has already been justified.
2 1st rounders.
Vujacic a major surprise, while T.Will racks up DNPs in Houston.
I would do that trade again.

[niko]

T.Will trade has already been justified.
2 1st rounders.
Vujacic a major surprise, while T.Will racks up DNPs in Houston.
I would do that trade again.
Two high first rounders. And Vujacic, another good role player on a good team, a luxury item on a 30 win team. T.Will had potential. Avery broke him down and then they gave up on him. If this was game 70 or if he acted up all last year i'd agree with you but he did not. That trade was done to accumulate assets for the Melo trade.

T.Will gone. Lopez regressing. Favors playing spotty minutes. Avery is aware you suck right now, right?

I disagree with the T'Will trade, and i'm relatively sure you and some net fans on this board convinced me how good he was because i did not notice before.

[Nets fan 93]

Who say's Denver's building around Lawson?. He'll be a poor man's Tony Parker and probably will peak at a above average starter. Noone is saying he'll be the building block. Denver's flat out better than NJ without Melo. NJ struggles to win 20 games a year the past 2 year. That 22 year old center has major impact huh. Must be the mono, only logical excuse for him struggling to average half double digit rebounds.

Not similiar to Cleveland at all actually. Cleveland lost the best player in the game. A type of talent that could very well end up as one of the best who's every stepped on the court. A 2x MVP. Melo's great. Top 10 player. Not the type of player who set's a franchise back 5 years like LeBron does.

Afflalo\Lawson\Nene. Chauncey could leave. K-Mart will expire. J.R will expire. Concerning the draft is so uncertain it's not even worth talking about. Ping pong balls can fall either way. What if Chicago never wins the lotto and doesn't get Rose?. Tons of teams hit and miss every year so won't even get into that.

The Net's have a better building block in Lopez\Favors. Better hope for the draft since they'll lock up another top 5 pick.

All I'm saying is the Net's have been the joke of the league the past 2 years. You shouldn't be loling at any franchise when yours has been that big of a joke. Sure they might have a better future, it remains to be seen. Personally any center that's shooting under 50% and struggles to grab 8 boards a game isn't as bright as it's been made to seem. You have your Al Jefferson like franchise player. Your team is hardly enough of a sure thing or has enough potential like those Bulls\Thunder teams did to go around laughing at another franchise. That's it.

Win more than 20 games before you talk shit about another franchise. Simple concept. I wouldn't go around laughing at the Celtics\Lakers franchise, esp not if Denver was as big of a joke as the Net's have been the past 2 years.

Yes I'm still mad but it's the harsh truth.
It's not harsh at all. I get hate from knick fans(A lot of knick fans live in NJ :( ) all the time. I am used to it. The nets at least get a reward of a nice high draft pick. Denver is one of the better teams now. their record wont get that much worse. I mean it will get worse but not #1 pick status. You will have to just get used to sucking. I'm sorry you are getting offended but Nets fans are hurt by Denver managements arrogance too. Nets don't lose out on a top 10-15 player. Denver does. Nets are at least heading in the right direction. What's the deal of winning games when your star player doesnt even want to be there? losing is a part of rebuilding. As for Lopez, I can't really explan his situation. you have to watch the games to understand.

[It's A VC3!!!]

Denver's management needs to quit, do they honestly believe that they will get a better package then what the Nets offered? Carmelo does not want to play in Denver anymore, do us all a favor and get him out now. But I pray he doesn't get traded and he walks out for nothing in return so I can watch Denver rot for all eternity.

[Chicago Brawls]

Was curious to see this Favours guy.

Right now for the youngest player in the league he's beasting against Utah.

Denver :roll:

[FlawlessVictory]

Good news for everyone except Denver imo. (although I wouldn't be calling them out just yet. Melo might have said he was not going there, so its not their fault the deal collapsed)

New Jersey were going nowhere with that massive trade except maybe first round playoff exit for the next few years. They are now in a good cap situation with lots of picks, good young talent, a move to Brooklyn in 2 years and a great owner.

Melo would have been a complete idiot to go there, so he has made the right choice imo.

New York can now get him on their terms (at least to a certain extent) and retain a strong team for this seasons playoffs and beyond.

[crisoner]

Question.....

Why don't the Warriors go after Melo????

Trade away Ellis and Beidrens...maybe some future picks?
That would be a sweeter offer then the Nets have. Golden State plays in the 4th biggest market....not to far away from LA where La La will be working. (Just a one hour plane ride). Really....why doesn't THIS deal happen?

[The_Yearning]

That Russian Owner is the definition of SWAG.

[knightfall88]

I think this is exactly what Melo wanted. Knicks here he comes

[Nets fan 93]

Question.....

Why don't the Warriors go after Melo????

Trade away Ellis and Beidrens...maybe some future picks?
That would be a sweeter offer then the Nets have. Golden State plays in the 4th biggest market....not to far away from LA where La La will be working. (Just a one hour plane ride). Really....why doesn't THIS deal happen?
A sweeter offer? The Nuggets wanted picks and to cut costs. How could the accomplish that with Biedrins and Monta?

[knickscity]

A sweeter offer? The Nuggets wanted picks and to cut costs. How could the accomplish that with Biedrins and Monta?
I'm confused too with that one.

[GiveItToBurrito]

I posted this in another thread, but here's my proposed Houston trade. Remember, too, that they have two 2012 picks (theirs and NY's).

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMa...radeId=6ksglhk

Houston could throw in a pick or maybe include one of their trade exceptions (6 million for Ariza, 5 for Yao) in place of Battier.

Why Houston does it: Carmelo. Buddinger is good, but there won't be a ton of minutes to go around if Melo's there, plus he fills a need on a Denver team without a lot of depth at the 3. Harrington is basically dead weight, he's not the type of guy who's going to be on a good team, at least at this point in his career, but his contract isn't as bad as it seems and he can soak up some minutes at the 4 and occasionally as a small ball 5. Also, considering that Hill and Hayes aren't exactly shooters, Houston will probably need to play a stretch 4. Brooks is good, but his reputation is greater than his talent, and they've got a nice point guard in Lowry (who's a much much better defender). Scola's a big-ish name and puts up numbers, but he's not super efficient and is a pretty poor defender, plus I don't like his contract.

Why Denver does it: Because it's better than nothing. Brooks and Scola are well known enough that they can sell this to their fans as a decent move. Patterson's a nice young player who can probably replace KMart to an extent. They also will save a lot of money with the expirers and might even be under the cap next year. Denver's new lineup once they flip Billups:

Brooks/Lawson (two sparkplug point guards who can shoot the lights out and push the ball up the floor, plus they'll give the slower vets on a lot of Western teams fits)
Afflalo/Smith (scoring, shooting, and defense from Afflalo)
Buddinger (great shooter and rebounder, very athletic)
KMart/Scola/Patterson (athleticism, defense from two of them, rebounding from all of them)
Nene/Andersen (efficient scoring, athleticism)

That team actually has a shot at the playoffs, and they'll probably be able to snag a decent player for Billups. Add in a pick or two that they get from Houston and this is a very good young team. Maybe not a contender, but if they draft well or spend money wisely, they could be back to the playoffs in a year or two.

Houston would wind up with a rotation of:

Lowry/Smith (quick guys, the former is an excellent defender)
Battier/Martin (shooter, very efficient scorer who's a poor enough passer and defender that you can justify using him as a super-sub)
Anthony/Harrington (scorers)
Hill/Harrington (d and rebounding from Hill, spacing from Harrington)
Hayes/Miller (same as with Hill/Harrington, defense in the starting lineup

I'm not in love with this lineup, but I could see it working. Morey's smart enough that they'll probably be able to snag another quasi-all star at some point, too.

[D12"Magic"]

Damn Never stalled to long now look :facepalm
Favors 10 Points 2 Blocks and 4-4 Fg's at the Half not bad at all.

[bagelred]

Denver completely overplayed their hand. I didn't think Nets would have balls to walk away. Wow....let's see what happens. This could be a mini movie.

...........eating popcorn...........smiling..............

[dee-rose]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4cbanoc

Highly unlikely that the bulls get him, and if they don't I'm kinda indifferent. But he'd be a nice addition to a team that needs to score.

[christian1923]

Maybe the nets didnt back out?? lol maybe meloo juss said hell no to the nets?:confusedshrug:

[MeLO MvP 15]

Denver completely overplayed their hand. I didn't think Nets would have balls to walk away. Wow....let's see what happens. This could be a mini movie.

...........eating popcorn...........smiling..............
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b85/cool_dude100/popcorn.gif

[canyoufeelit?]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4cbanoc

Highly unlikely that the bulls get him, and if they don't I'm kinda indifferent. But he'd be a nice addition to a team that needs to score.

shoot i'd take that. very unlikely though.

[RecSpecs110]

Apparently, Denver's FO is pissed now. Yeah, you had it coming.

Let this be a lesson to them: Quit while you're ahead. If you bully someone for 6 months, don't get upset when they retaliate.

Good luck rebuilding your team with Gallinari and a 2026 first round pick, morons.

[Nets fan 93]

Apparently, Denver's FO is pissed now. Yeah, you had it coming.

Let this be a lesson to them: Quit while you're ahead. If you bully someone for 6 months, don't get upset when they retaliate.

Good luck rebuilding your team with Gallinari and a 2026 first round pick, morons.
Owned.

[tontoz]

YES!!!

Finally.. some resolution!!!!

Way to show some balls Proky and end this charade!


Seriously he really needed to do this.

[D12"Magic"]

Apparently, Denver's FO is pissed now. Yeah, you had it coming.

Let this be a lesson to them: Quit while you're ahead. If you bully someone for 6 months, don't get upset when they retaliate.

Good luck rebuilding your team with Gallinari and a 2026 first round pick, morons.
:applause:

[Naruto-sama]

lol i just read Prokohov's quotes about theemail and carrier pigeon :lol

I like how he handled this and screwed Denver with their greed.

I also hope he's the type of owner that will talk trash back to Cuban. I don't know why Cuban was starting beefs with him and hates on him so much.

[tontoz]

Mikhail Prokhorov, owner of the Nets, announced at a Wednesday press conference that his team is ending negotiations on a trade to acquire Carmelo Anthony.

"It's been too long and too expensive," he said about the chase for Anthony.

When asked if this was his final decision, he responded, "For sure."

"It's my own decision," Prokhorov said. "(The Nuggets) had a very good proposal. They probably did their best to protect their interests."

"I never met with Carmelo and I never spoke with him. Maybe he sent me an e-mail, but i didn't see it. Or maybe the carrier pigeon got lost," the owner said.

"I never received any negative information," he said. "But there was no direct information. It's my feeling of strategy."

When asked if he had informed the Nuggets of this decision first, Prokhorov said, "No. You're the first to know."



Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/71233/20110119/nets_pull_out_of_carmelo_talks/#ixzz1BXrXhK5g


:oldlol: :rockon:

[El Kabong]

NJ did the right thing. You can't make your FO look weak by bowing down to every demand a team makes. Get a reputation as weak-willed and then every other GM is gonna start low-balling you in future deals.

[Naruto-sama]

What % of the Nets does JayZ own?

[El Kabong]

What % of the Nets does JayZ own?
I think it's like 1-2%.

[lock]

Good lay down there by Prokhorov. Shows some balls.

[hawkfan]

The Hawks can offer Jamal Crawford, Marvin Williams and 2 first round picks.

Do it Rick Sund.

Carmelo Anthony and Joe Johnson would make a fantastic duo.

[niko]

Denver reportedly is mad at NY. Yes, we told Prokorov to go tell them to **** off. SURE...

[Lebron23]

The Hawks can offer Jamal Crawford, Marvin Williams and 2 first round picks.

Do it Rick Sund.

Carmelo Anthony and Joe Johnson would make a fantastic duo.

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Noble6]

the nets deal is officialy dead?

[Charlie Sheen]

This thing is a bigger joke than the L James trade :facepalm I expect Denver to come out of this looking a lot like Cleveland......except Denver will deserve it, and Cleveland did not.
Denver is negotiating hard. They are gonna lose picks and players if they hold onto him but its assumed melo is going to miss out on a chunk of cash too. Still I cant see how denver deserves a player leaving thru free agency while cleveland did not. I may be missing your point here

[Charlie Sheen]

Denver reportedly is mad at NY. Yes, we told Prokorov to go tell them to **** off. SURE...
reported by woj? that's right up his alley

[alenleomessi]

Is there any chance the Clips get him ?

[crisoner]

How about this trade!!!

Nuggets Trade Anthony and Balkman

Warriors trade Monta and Biedrins

It works! Try it here!

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine


Melo with Curry and David Lee would be nice and something to build around.

Do it Melo!!!!!

[Clutch]

the nets deal is officialy dead?
Yes

[33teeth]

Question.....

Why don't the Warriors go after Melo????

Trade away Ellis and Beidrens...maybe some future picks?
That would be a sweeter offer then the Nets have. Golden State plays in the 4th biggest market....not to far away from LA where La La will be working. (Just a one hour plane ride). Really....why doesn't THIS deal happen?

'Melo: 23.5 PPG, 8.1 RPG, 2.9 APG, .97 SPG
Ellis: 25.9 PPG, 3.4 RPG, 5.6 APG, 2.27 SPG

Why would you trade Ellis and more for someone who is only better than 'Melo if you have good skills in the art of persuasion? Carmelo has made his bed. He'll be a Knick for cheap. And that should be just great. He has plenty of money. Go get 'em.

[hawkfan]

The big problem the Nuggets have is that by trading Carmelo away, season ticket holders will get pissed off and not renew next season.

Keeping him and then losing him later in the summer allows the team to get more ticket holders to re-up.

But they will end up sucking next season if they lose him and only get a first round pick and a trade exception in return.

It's stupid how they haven't been able to get something solid in return for K-Mart's retiring contract, maybe a Gerald Wallace or a Stephen Jackson in some type of package.

[DUP]

bulls should jump on this

[InspiredLebowski]

The big problem the Nuggets have is that by trading Carmelo away, season ticket holders will get pissed off and not renew next season.

Keeping him and then losing him later in the summer allows the team to get more ticket holders to re-up.

But they will end up sucking next season if they lose him and only get a first round pick and a trade exception in return.

It's stupid how they haven't been able to get something solid in return for K-Mart's retiring contract, maybe a Gerald Wallace or a Stephen Jackson in some type of package.A lot of teams are already sending out renewal notices, I know Indy is.

[ATL_Bball_King]

If they dont find someone to trade with melo...I think they will go back to the Nets before the trade deadline and ask for less...

[ATL_Bball_King]

Either way he is gone before the trade deadline

[jebron-i]

denver tried their luck and lost

[da dream]

denver tried their luck and lost

More like Denver knew carmello wasn't going to sign an extension and tried to keep NJ involved to get a better offer from Knicks.


In a postmortem on the Nets' aborted attempt to trade for Carmelo Anthony, Ken Berger reports that New Jersey's front office at first believed that it had a meeting scheduled with Anthony for Tuesday.

Then word got back to New Jersey that Tuesday would not work for Anthony but that Thursday might be possible.

Still there was no firm commitment from Anthony and ultimately the Nets may not have wanted to risk the embarrassment of flying out to meet with Anthony only to have him decline the extension.

"I think they thought Melo was going to say no ...," said a source connected to the discussions. "There was a high percentage that could happen: Melo saying no to New Jersey."

via real gm

[D12"Magic"]

More like Denver knew carmello wasn't going to sign an extension and tried to keep NJ involved to get a better offer from Knicks.
Not much of a source.

[da dream]

Not much of a source.


Why because you don't agree with what it says and don't want to admit you have been wrong the whole time about the whole Melo and Nets saga.

Ken Berger is a writer for cbs sports. I would say he is a legitiment source. I just pulled the info from www.realgm.com

[D12"Magic"]

Why because you don't agree with what it says and don't want to admit you have been wrong the whole time about the whole Melo and Nets saga.

Ken Berger is a writer for cbs sports. I would say he is a legitiment source. I just pulled the info from www.realgm.com
Clearly the fact that they think he would of said no. Melo wanted to have a meeting. The deal was being pushed hard for a reason. And you mind showing me were I said He would officially be a Net.

[da dream]

Clearly the fact that they think he would of said no. Melo wanted to have a meeting. The deal was being pushed hard for a reason. And you mind showing me were I said He would officially be a Net.


Nowhere has it been reported that Melo wanted to have a meeting. The meeting was wanted by the Nets. If carmelo had a meeting, he would have told them no. From the very beginning Melo wanted to be a Knick. Everyone else was pushing for the Nets because it was in their best interests, but not carmelo's.

Its not worth arguing about but as far as you saying it is official, I think this pretty much somes up what the majority of your posts on this subject have been like.


Melo most likely agreed, Detroit and NJ are just trying to finish pieces for the trade, besides no way this would be posted if they were no where near making this trade official. And lol at knick fans :roll:

[D12"Magic"]

Nowhere has it been reported that Melo wanted to have a meeting. The meeting was wanted by the Nets. If carmelo had a meeting, he would have told them no. From the very beginning Melo wanted to be a Knick. Everyone else was pushing for the Nets because it was in their best interests, but not carmelo's.

Its not worth arguing about but as far as you saying it is official, I think this pretty much somes up what the majority of your posts on this subject have been like.
Actually Melo said he wanted to meet with Mihkael.

[JMT]

Actually Melo said he wanted to meet with Mihkael.

Actually, according to most reports, Prokhorov called off the deal in part because of Anthony's refusal to sit down in person.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Any one seen this (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/24045/prokhorov-drops-the-hammer)?

Archive
Let's pretend you're a marginally popular high-schooler, and you want to go to the prom with a big-deal girl.

You know you're a long shot, for a couple of reasons, not the least of which is that she's dead set on going with some other, more popular kid.

One good way to play it is to make sure she knows you're her dream date. Tell her that again and again. It probably won't work. But it's a decent way of maximizing your slim chances. People like to be wanted. And if for some reason she can't get together with that other guy ... you just might charm your way to the top of the list, with your earnestness and your flowers.

What you can't do, if you're the long-shot date, is play it cool and expect everything to work out. You can't play hardball. You can't ignore her and drive her crazy.

Well, the Nets are that marginally popular dude. And I'll be honest, I have been admiring their dedication to Anthony. Through all of this, they have had the best offers, the most love.
That's true, the he probably realized that he couldn't get Melo so he gave up.

I mean Melo always wanted to play in NY, why mortgage your future by giving up young talent and Draft picks for a selfish player that doesn't even want to play for your team?

[niko]

Actually Melo said he wanted to meet with Mihkael.
Which was said after there was no chance of it happening.

[RecSpecs110]

To clear it up, Melo said himself that the meeting was going to take place last Thursday. Whether Prokhorov canceled it because he sensed Melo would have said no or he was simply fed up with the talks, we don't know for sure. But the meeting was going to take place.

End of story.

[D12"Magic"]

To clear it up, Melo said himself that the meeting was going to take place last Thursday. Whether Prokhorov canceled it because he sensed Melo would have said no or he was simply fed up with the talks, we don't know for sure. But the meeting was going to take place.

End of story.
Ditto.

[da dream]

Ditto.

I agree with RecSpecs as well. But that doesn't mean that Melo WANTED the meeting. All it means was he acknowledged it was going to take place.

[D12"Magic"]

I agree with RecSpecs as well. But that doesn't mean that Melo WANTED the meeting. All it means was he acknowledged it was going to take place.
Guess we will never know for sure. :confusedshrug:

[Nets fan 93]

Guess we will never know for sure. :confusedshrug:
You never know. Just because the Nets have backed down... doesn't mean the Nuggets won't come back if they cant find a better offer than the Nets ORIGINAL offer.

[D12"Magic"]

You never know. Just because the Nets have backed down... doesn't mean the Nuggets won't come back if they cant find a better offer than the Nets ORIGINAL offer.
Maybe, Prok could have just said no to get his players focused.

[New York Knicks]

Lotta maybe's going on here. Melo didn't want the Nets. That should be clear by now with all the reports that have come out. Every reporter/analyst/etc. has said it. Move on.

[D12"Magic"]

Lotta maybe's going on here. Melo didn't want the Nets. That should be clear by now with all the reports that have come out. Every reporter/analyst/etc. has said it. Move on.
Proof?

[da dream]

Here's an article with some quotes that may gts nets fans excited again. Although I still wouldn't bet on him going to the Nets.

[QUOTE]WASHINGTON

[D12"Magic"]

Here's an article with some quotes that may gts nets fans excited again. Although I still wouldn't bet on him going to the Nets.



http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AjuiSO1GJhqpxfRsFlj3XPi8vLYF?slug=aw-anthonynuggets012611
To be honest Melo on the Nets is a 1st round exit the least.
There future looks good.
And great more trade rumors to get there players worried again.

[NUPE_1911]

I just don't see why NJ is or was so dead set on getting Melo. A team built around Melo / Billups / Lopez & no depth to speak of simply wont be very competitive (realistically contending for a title). Further, the NJ team with Melo would be too good to get high draft picks but never really be a title contender. NJ would essentially be the poor mans Hawks.

The only teams that should actually be seeking Melo are those with at least .500 or so record, a bonafide stud that they can couple with Melo and enough talent to give up for Melo while still retaining some depth. Therefore, teams like the Hawks, Knicks, Memphis, Mavericks, Clippers, etc. would be good landing spots for Melo.

[Y2Gezee]

If you don't see why NJ would want to Melo to build around. Well God help you.

Why Melo would join them, with what they'd build around him in the immediate future? Better question

[Borat]

If you don't see why NJ would want to Melo to build around. Well God help you.

Why Melo would join them, with what they'd build around him in the immediate future? Better question

25 ppg isnt worth all this trouble.
Melo is a scorer with fan appeal, he doesn't have the total game impact of Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Howard, Paul even Deron.

http://dberri.wordpress.com/2011/01/13/why-is-lebron-james-a-more-productive-player-than-carmelo-anthony/