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Mr. Grieves

01-27-2011, 04:19 PM

Have many have you seen this? Surprised there hasn't been a post on this.

All week there has been massive protests in Cairo. 7 dead so far, 1 being a cop. Over a 1000 people arrested, thousands injured. Cops have no hesitation beating people, firing tear gas, and using rubber bullets. The current Egyptian regime has practically transformed into a dictatorship. The president has banned protests and social media sites like twitter and facebook. This is a country of 80 million people where an estimated 20 million+ people use the internet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcMZQQPBcHo

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-12300164

People are disgruntled about everything - about politics, economics, their lives, the state of the country. One could talk about the unemployment, and the poverty, and the corruption. People feel they are being treated with contempt by the government.

But the discontent is also wider than that. Egyptians will tell you that this country needs a dream, a vision. They had a dream under President Nasser, they had a dream under President Sadat, they had a dream under the pharaohs.

In the 30-year rule of President Mubarak, there has been no dream - it's been mundane, it's been about numbers, and even on those numbers, many will say they haven't delivered on simple things like education, sanitation, and so forth. So people are really seeing a government and a country in decline.

Heavy sh*t is going down in Egypt right now.

8BeastlyXOIAD

01-27-2011, 04:25 PM

2012 Is Near

Captain Kirk

01-27-2011, 04:27 PM

I have heard that things are much worse around the world as a result of all these economic collapse. I just haven't seen it, but between this and a few other things I've come to see, it's true.

Mr. Grieves

01-27-2011, 04:27 PM

A sh*tty dictator having power for 30 years has nothing to do with 2012 dude lol.

zizozain

01-27-2011, 04:41 PM

A sh*tty dictator having power for 30 years has nothing to do with 2012 dude lol.
and who supported dictatorship regime?

Nick Young

01-27-2011, 08:18 PM

that country has been under tyrannical dictatorship and police control for the past 20 years, it's about time the people actually try to do something about it:facepalm

maybe this will make tickets to sharm cheaper, that's all I can hope for

Nick Young

01-27-2011, 08:20 PM

and who supported dictatorship regime?
the retarded egyptian civilian population who voted mubarak in to power in the first place:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

and then did nothing as he transformed their nation into a police state.

Are hotels in sharm any cheaper yet? Anyone know? that place is LEGIT

the club med at al alamein i wouldnt mind going back to either

NauruDude

01-27-2011, 08:35 PM

This is going on in many muslim states. Tunisia started off, then Mauritania, Yemen, Algeria, Egypt (possibly more) are following. I think this signals the end of dictatorship in the Middle East-North Africa and will get democracy to those places.

NauruDude

01-27-2011, 08:36 PM

the retarded egyptian civilian population who voted mubarak in to power in the first place:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

and then did nothing as he transformed their nation into a police state.

Are hotels in sharm any cheaper yet? Anyone know? that place is LEGIT

the club med at al alamein i wouldnt mind going back to either

the people who voted him were 30 years older now. He probably was back then a normal politician. But then he got corrupt. And he cant be ousted out because of the army. But now he is being sent out.

Hazard

01-27-2011, 08:39 PM

:oldlol: at 2012. Go Egypt! Take it back baby!

Also protests in Yemen.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/2011127100660857.html

Sweet video of Egypt protests:
http://vimeo.com/19248086
How often do you say "I am ready to die today?" Thats how you know shit is bad.

Fixed, sorry about that.

NauruDude

01-27-2011, 08:44 PM

:oldlol: at 2012. Go Egypt! Take it back baby!

Also protests in Yemen.
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/2011127100660857.html

Sweet video of Egypt protests:
http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/2011127100660857.html
How often do you say "I am ready to die today?" Thats how you know shit is bad.

its the same video, both from Yemen, San'a

Hazard

01-27-2011, 10:26 PM

Egypt has now shut down power completely.
Relevant (http://imgur.com/JLAGz)

Captain Kirk

01-27-2011, 10:31 PM

Egypt has now shut down power completely.
Relevant (http://imgur.com/JLAGz)

Is this for real? :eek:

Hazard

01-27-2011, 10:34 PM

Is this for real? :eek:
Yeah, it is. There was an article about this but it has been taken down.

DRoseOwnsACamry

01-27-2011, 10:37 PM

What the HELL is going on down there? :eek:

Keep fighting, Egyptian people- fight for your freedom!
**** tyranny!

Captain Kirk

01-27-2011, 10:38 PM

Yeah, it is. There was an article about this but it has been taken down.

Oh my gosh, this is madness. If we ignore this we'll be in the future talking about how it started with Egypt and we ignored it because it seemed unlikely to happen to us. But think of how helpless we really would be if all communication was cut off.

What do the people in Egypt want us to do? I saw some names listed in that link of ISPs and such, do we email them or something?

Hazard

01-27-2011, 10:54 PM

Oh my gosh, this is madness. If we ignore this we'll be in the future talking about how it started with Egypt and we ignored it because it seemed unlikely to happen to us. But think of how helpless we really would be if all communication was cut off.

What do the people in Egypt want us to do? I saw some names listed in that link of ISPs and such, do we email them or something?
Seems like they want us to boycott the companies listed in the letter, and spread the word I guess. I never heard of any of them.

knickballer

01-27-2011, 10:59 PM

Damn riots going on EVERYwhere..

Europe is getting riots daily(Italy, England, Portugal, Albania, Greece, etc)
Middle East and I'm sure some East asian country under some tyrant is about to revolt aswell.

SevereUpInHere

01-28-2011, 02:40 AM

The media just doesn't cover these stories. I check the news sites every day and I've barely seen any mention of this. I know Oprah has a long lost sister tho :facepalm

Good to see the people fighting the power. I'd like to think I had the balls to do the same if it happened here.

Mr. Grieves

01-28-2011, 03:05 AM

blacknapalm

01-28-2011, 07:08 AM

just another thing for me to realize i don't know $hit about what's going on. then put it all in a spin cycle for political gains while nothing improves. repeat. yep, i'm pretty cynical about humanity at this point. i just hate researching something for hours and hearing opinions instead of events happening from the egytpian perspective. i'm not sure that can be replicated. i'm damn sure it will be politicized.

zizozain

01-28-2011, 07:15 AM

11.03am: Al-Jazeera reports that teargas has been fired at protesters in Alexandria.

Riddler

01-28-2011, 07:22 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcMZQQPBcHo

Heavy sh*t is going down in Egypt right now.

good video.

zizozain

01-28-2011, 07:29 AM

Fresh protests erupt in Egypt

Protesters take to the streets demanding President Mubarak's ouster despite a security clampdown

"Egypt's Muslims and Christians will go out to fight against corruption, unemployment and oppression and absence of freedom," the page with more than 70,000 signatories said.

The Associated Press news agency reported that an elite special counterterrorism force had been deployed at strategic points around Cairo as Egypt's interior ministry warned of "decisive measures".

http://english.aljazeera.net/mritems/Images/2011/1/28/2011128102248410580_20.jpg

iamgine

01-28-2011, 09:58 AM

All politics. Somebody is provoking, paying for and organizing this mess. The government should deploy the military and declare rioters will be shot dead on sight.

CeltsGarlic

01-28-2011, 10:56 AM

My friends are in Egypt and they cant use phones so their families are terrified.

Heilige

01-28-2011, 12:31 PM

All politics. Somebody is provoking, paying for and organizing this mess. The government should deploy the military and declare rioters will be shot dead on sight.

Why do you feel that way?

Heilige

01-28-2011, 01:12 PM

Heilige

01-28-2011, 01:14 PM

Protests now in Jordan!!! :eek:

Thousands of people in Jordan have taken to the streets in protests, demanding the country's prime minister step down, and the government curb rising prices, inflation and unemployment.

In the third consecutive Friday of protests, about 3,500 opposition activists from Jordan's main Islamist opposition group, trade unions and leftist organisations gathered in the capital, waving colourful banners reading: "Send the corrupt guys to court".

The crowd denounced Samir Rifai's, the prime minister, and his unpopular policies.

Many shouted: "Rifai go away, prices are on fire and so are the Jordanians.''

Another 2,500 people also took to the streets in six other cities across the country after the noon prayers. Those protests also called for Rifai's ouster.

Members of the Islamic Action Front, the political wing of the Muslim Brotherhood and Jordan's largest opposition party, swelled the ranks of the demonstrators, massing outside the al-Husseini mosque in Amman and filling the downtown streets with their prayer lines.

King Abdullah has promised some reforms, particularly on a controversial election law. But many believe it is unlikely he will bow to demands for the election of the prime minister and Cabinet officials, traditionally appointed by the king.

Rifai also announced a $550 million package of new subsidies in the last two weeks for fuel and staple products like rice, sugar, livestock and liquefied gas used for heating and cooking. It also includes a raise for civil servants and security personnel.

Record deficit

However, Jordan's economy continues to struggle, weighed down by a record deficit of $2bn this year.

Inflation has also risen by 1.5 per cent to 6.1 per cent just last month, unemployment and poverty are rampant - estimated at 12 and 25 per cent respectively.

Ibrahim Alloush, a university professor, told the Associated Press that it was not a question of changing faces or replacing one prime minister with another.

"We're demanding changes on how the country is now run," he said.

He also accused the government of impoverishing the working class with regressive tax codes which forced the poor to pay a higher proportion of their income as tax.

He also accused parliament as serving as a "rubber stamp'' to the executive branch.

"This is what has led people to protest in the streets because they don't have venues for venting how they feel through legal means," Alloush said.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/2011128125157509196.html

Heilige

01-28-2011, 01:15 PM

CNN Stream:

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3

Jailblazers7

01-28-2011, 01:21 PM

Wow, this is getting crazy.

Mr. Grieves

01-28-2011, 01:29 PM

live now on aljazeera

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

http://www.channel4.com/media/images/Channel4/c4-news/JAN/28/28_egypt_pray_g_k.jpg

http://cache.boston.com/bonzai-fba/Globe_Photo/2011/01/28/egypt21__1296225982_3206.jpg

http://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01813/egypt2_1813855c.jpg

Wow. I don't see egyptians backing down at this point unless Mubarak steps down, or he kills thousands of them. Hopefully he steps down first. Crazy images.

Dave3

01-28-2011, 01:42 PM

What the HELL is going on down there? :eek:

Keep fighting, Egyptian people- fight for your freedom!
**** tyranny!
It's a country where the government is allowed to do anything. Women are kidnapped on a daily basis and go missing and never return. Work places are burnt down, houses burnt, churches bombed, etc etc. It's like a civil war, without one side fighting back, so it's just straight bullying. Some Egyptian people got fed up with it I guess.

Heilige

01-28-2011, 01:44 PM

Protests now in Yemen:

Tens of thousands of people in Yemen have taken to the streets in the country's capital, calling for an end to the government of Ali Abdullah Saleh, the president.

Inspired by recent events in Tunisia and Egypt, opposition members and youth activists rallied at four different locations in Sanaa on Thursday, chanting for Saleh, who has been in power for 32 years, to step down.

"Enough being in power for [over] 30 years," protesters shouted during the demonstrations.

They also referred to the ouster of Tunisian president Zine El Abidine Ben Ali, saying he was "gone in just [over] 20 years".

"No to extending [presidential tenure]. No to bequeathing [the presidency]," they chanted.

An opposition activist said that the staging of the demonstration in four separate parts of the capital was aimed at distracting the security forces.

One area chosen for the protest was outside Sanaa University. Security measures at the demonstrations appeared relaxed, but were tight around the interior ministry and the central bank.

'Not like Tunisia'

Meanwhile, Saleh's ruling General People's Congress held counter marches attended by thousands of the government's backers.

"No to toppling democracy and the constitution," the president's supporters said in their banners.

In the southern provinces of Dali and Shabwa, riot police used batons to disperse anti-government protesters, while thousands took to the streets in al-Hudaydah province along the Red Sea coast.

In the southern port city of Aden, a 28-year-old unemployed man set himself on fire to protest the economic troubles in the country, an act that echoed that the sparked the uprising in Tunisia. Fouad Sabri was rushed to the hospital in critical condition, medical officials said.

However, Motahar Rashad al-Masri, the Yemeni interior minister, ruled out any resemblance between the protests in Yemen and the public outcry in Tunisia and Egypt.

"Yemen is not like Tunisia," he said, adding that Yemen was a "democratic country" and that the demonstrations were peaceful.

He told Al Jazeera that Yemeni authorities would not curb any demonstrations that are peaceful, regardless of their size.

'Right to protest'

The United States, which has played an increasingly active role in Yemen amid fears that al-Qaeda is using it as a base for attacks, said it backed the right to peaceful protest.

Washington supports the right of Yemenis to "express themselves and assemble freely," Philip Crowley, the US state department spokesman, said.

Saleh was re-elected in September 2006 for a seven-year mandate.

A draft amendment of the constitution, under discussion in parliament despite opposition protests, could allow him - if passed - to remain in office for life.

Saleh is also accused of wanting to pass the reins of power in the impoverished Arabian Peninsula state to his eldest son Ahmed, who heads the elite Presidential Guard.

But in a televised address on Sunday, Saleh denied such accusations. "We are a republic. We reject bequeathing [the presidency]", he said.

http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2011/01/2011127100660857.html

Heilige

01-28-2011, 01:45 PM

Aljazerra Stream:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

CNN Stream:

http://www.cnn.com/video/flashLive/live.html?stream=stream3

bada bing

01-28-2011, 01:47 PM

its about time this is happening!!! Go Egypt!!

the worst thing that mubarak and his cronies can do now was to call in the military and try to shut down the protests via force. This probably led to more people hitting the streets and calling for his resignation.

I hope this happens in every fcking middle eastern country. Those guys need a revolution in every country. Enough of these dictators and Kings oppressing people and standing behind the support of the US. I hope this doesn't die down like the one in Iran. If Egypt goes down than watch out for a radical change in the entire middleeast.

so far it seems there are protests and clashes in Jordan, Yemen, and Algeria!

this is awesome.

Brunch@Five

01-28-2011, 01:49 PM

guns shot in Cairo. Gov't HQ in flames

kNIOKAS

01-28-2011, 01:52 PM

i look at those live images and it seems this is going to lead somewhere. bunch of people and no police? they are up to something.

Heilige

01-28-2011, 01:56 PM

More information can be found at this thread:

http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1341188/pg55

Some of the army and police are joining with the protestors!!! :banana: :banana:

Brunch@Five

01-28-2011, 02:06 PM

reportedly none of the armed forces is taking any actions against protestors, but rather are supporting them

Nick Young

01-28-2011, 02:11 PM

It's a country where the government is allowed to do anything. Women are kidnapped on a daily basis and go missing and never return. Work places are burnt down, houses burnt, churches bombed, etc etc. It's like a civil war, without one side fighting back, so it's just straight bullying. Some Egyptian people got fed up with it I guess.
I used to live there, as an American I was allowed to do anthing, snort lines infront of cops, buy alchohol as a 14 year old it was awesome. Hopefully the government that replaces Mubarak will keep letting this awesome shit happen.

THE TICKETS TO SHARM KEEP GOING LOWER AND LOWER HELL YES-Sharm el sheik spring break here I come!!!!!

Nick Young

01-28-2011, 02:12 PM

i look at those live images and it seems this is going to lead somewhere. bunch of people and no police? they are up to something.
The police are all armed with assault rifles, and though they work for the government, they all come from the small villages outside of cairo and alexandria I dont think they'd fire on their own people

Heilige

01-28-2011, 02:27 PM

UPDATES

-Protesters have stormed the Foreign Ministry Building and the State TV Building
-The Military has been deployed to Cairo, Alexandria, and Suez
-The Military is being welcomed with open arms by protesters
-The Ruling Party Headquarters has been set on fire
-More than 50,000 Protesters have taken to the streets in Cairo
-Fires have broken out all over Cairo
-Police and Security Forces have been overwhelmed in several locations
-Curfew has been set for all of Egypt however remains entirely unenforced
-The Internet has been completely shut off throughout Egypt, including mobile cell networks

MayCeltics

01-28-2011, 02:34 PM

I can't believe what I'm witnessing. Egyptian People finally unite & Revolt. Its been a long time coming (30years). Better late than never.

Bye Bye Hosni Mubarak.

You did Misr (Egypt). Congratulation.

FatComputerNerd

01-28-2011, 02:40 PM

So once Mubarak is deposed how long will it be until the Muslim Brotherhood takes power and instills an Islamic Fundamentalist regime?

Nick Young

01-28-2011, 02:42 PM

FatComputerNerd

01-28-2011, 02:45 PM

Israel is probably shaking in her boots right about now.

MayCeltics

01-28-2011, 02:48 PM

So once Mubarak is deposed how long will it be until the Muslim Brotherhood takes power and instills an Islamic Fundamentalist regime?

Here come the fear-mongering. Are you the NDP? I think your headquarters was set ablaze by the people. Go put it out.

Heilige

01-28-2011, 02:55 PM

Check this video out:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThvBJMzmSZI&feature=player_embedded

NauruDude

01-28-2011, 02:59 PM

Egyptians might have been better with Mubarak, the Muslim brotherhood will probably take power and then they wont get all that US money anymore.

They are in trouble tomorrow, Mubarak has done nothing, he is either planning an escape to Switzerland or he's planning some major violence to try to hold on to power.

But US shouldnt been supporting Mubarak. That means US have egyptian blood too on their hands. Egypt-Iraq-Iran-Kuwait-Vietnam-Korea-Somalia

It will be better for Egypt to get democracy back and they will go off. We saw what they did 3000 years ago. Theyll be doin it again soon.

yobore

01-28-2011, 05:01 PM

Nick Young

01-28-2011, 05:06 PM

Israel is probably shaking in her boots right about now.
lol they wiped out the entire Egyptian airforce in one day without losing a single plane, Israel isn't afraid of shit.

Nick Young

01-28-2011, 05:08 PM

But US shouldnt been supporting Mubarak. That means US have egyptian blood too on their hands. Egypt-Iraq-Iran-Kuwait-Vietnam-Korea-Somalia

It will be better for Egypt to get democracy back and they will go off. We saw what they did 3000 years ago. Theyll be doin it again soon.
It's not like Mubarak was doing anything that other corrupt 3rd world dictators werent doing. He is not especially violent or anything and Egyptians had some of the most personal freedoms of any of the Arab countries, they arent the most liberal but I would say behind Lebanon they are. But he did rig elections and arrest opponents, so yeh that's pretty bad, but the US has way worse things to feel guilty about than this

MayCeltics

01-28-2011, 05:11 PM

In all the chaos, Egyptian have formed human-shield protecting the National Museum. :applause: They are the protectors now

PowerGlove

01-28-2011, 05:40 PM

bdreason

01-28-2011, 05:48 PM

I have very little knowledge of the controlling party in Egypt, but does anyone really think turning over control of the country to the Muslim Botherhood is a great idea?

Nick Young

01-28-2011, 05:52 PM

that nobel peace prize guy said "If these young people need a leader I will be that leader" so he is wanting power as well, already the protesters have been in violent fights against the police protecting him earlier today. Muslim brotherhood wants control too. Hopefully the nobel peace prize guy wins out but I doubt it, Muslim brotherhood will claim the victory for themselves

Captain Kirk

01-28-2011, 11:38 PM

This is so wild. While I would love to see Americans with this type of spirit, I can't front like it wouldn't be scary either. Knowing our government they would plant people within our protest so they have a reason to kill us.

nightprowler10

01-29-2011, 01:28 AM

This is....interesting.

kentatm

01-29-2011, 02:10 AM

In all the chaos, Egyptian have formed human-shield protecting the National Museum. :applause: They are the protectors now

i guess they remember what went down in Iraq.

props to them for protecting their heritage.

The Big Skinny

01-29-2011, 03:23 AM

Bump.

This is insane. Good for the people of Egypt. Religious differences aside, they are uniting as one and demanding rights.

RoseCity07

01-29-2011, 05:29 AM

I heard something about a huge uprising. Was it really started by teenagers?

I also heard the government is scared so they are trying to shut down internet in that region. Makes you wonder, is that why Japan and other countries try to sensor everything. They are afraid the people will actually educate themselves and take the country back.

Lebron23

01-29-2011, 05:32 AM

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/30/world/middleeast/30-egypt.html

Lebron23

01-29-2011, 05:38 AM

Israel is probably shaking in her boots right about now.

I don't think so.

Ezekiel 29:15:

I will make it so weak that it will never again rule over the nations.

http://www.aboutbibleprophecy.com/ezekiel_29_15.htm

LJJ

01-29-2011, 05:38 AM

Hazard

01-29-2011, 12:23 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/01/29/2011-01-29_egypt_protests_turn_deadly_as_police_open_fire_ on_massive_crowd_of_demonstrators.html

He unleashed the police and the baltageya - his private army of baseball-bat wielding thugs - on his opponents. And his men beat up reporters, including the BBC's Assad Sawey, and smashed the cameras of CNN crews.

None of that deterred the demonstrators.

By nightfall, black smoke from government vehicles set ablaze billowed over Cairo and angry Egyptians tipped police cars into the Nile.

"Illegitimate! Illegitimate!" they chanted as they hurled rocks at the retreating police.

Some police officers fired back with real ammo - instead of rubber bullets. But that didn't scare off the protesters. Nor were they fazed when Mubarak sent in the tanks.

The protesters said they were inspired by their Tunisian neighbors, who recently ousted their dictatorial president.

Captain Kirk

01-29-2011, 12:44 PM

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2011/01/29/2011-01-29_egypt_protests_turn_deadly_as_police_open_fire_ on_massive_crowd_of_demonstrators.html

When I was in HS I thought I would be participating in similar protest in the US when I graduated HS. I've been disappointed for a while to see just how hard it is to get Americans to unite for anything other than sporting events. But seeing the Egyptians do their thing this week has been a huge relief to know that America is just one place where no one gives a damn.

kentatm

01-29-2011, 01:01 PM

When I was in HS I thought I would be participating in similar protest in the US when I graduated HS. I've been disappointed for a while to see just how hard it is to get Americans to unite for anything other than sporting events. But seeing the Egyptians do their thing this week has been a huge relief to know that America is just one place where no one gives a damn.

:roll:

what the f-ck is so bad here in the US that we need to topple the govt through mass protest?

Whiteness

01-29-2011, 01:08 PM

conspiracy man

Hazard

01-29-2011, 01:12 PM

:roll:

what the f-ck is so bad here in the US that we need to topple the govt through mass protest?
Oil based economy. What happens when we cant acquire any more oil? What effect do you think this will have on the price of food? Local farms are a rare commodity, most food is being transported from other states. Whats gonna happen when you continue to receive the same income that you do and a loaf of bread costs $20? Feel free to remain ignorant, makes no difference to me or anyone else what you think.

Nick Young

01-29-2011, 01:52 PM

Bosnian Sajo

01-29-2011, 01:53 PM

Guys, they are not just fighting them to take back the economy...they want them out

Bosnian Sajo

01-29-2011, 01:55 PM

that's never going to happen you stupid f*ck

:D

Some people here never stop to think.

Keep that in your subconscious at least: There will come a time where you cannot buy bread with a bag full of money

Keeping it in your subconscious will at least let you know that when the time comes your were warned ahead of time.

Nick Young

01-29-2011, 02:02 PM

:D

Some people here never stop to think.

Keep that in your subconscious at least: There will come a time where you cannot buy bread with a bag full of money

Keeping it in your subconscious will at least let you know that when the time comes your were warned ahead of time.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

kentatm

01-29-2011, 02:10 PM

Oil based economy. What happens when we cant acquire any more oil? What effect do you think this will have on the price of food? Local farms are a rare commodity, most food is being transported from other states. Whats gonna happen when you continue to receive the same income that you do and a loaf of bread costs $20? Feel free to remain ignorant, makes no difference to me or anyone else what you think.

:violin:

we have plenty in reserve and after that we can easily move on to natural gasses like methane and hydrogen.

feel free to remain ignorant yourself brah.

never mind that cat was talking about having Egyptian style protests right now.

Hazard

01-29-2011, 02:14 PM

:violin:

we have plenty in reserve and after that we can easily move on to natural gasses like methane and hydrogen.

feel free to remain ignorant yourself brah.
Yeah "easily"... :oldlol: :facepalm You cant possibly be that dumb. Either way, feel free to continue living in your little bubble. Once again I do not give a ****.

kentatm

01-29-2011, 02:18 PM

Yeah "easily"... :oldlol: :facepalm You cant possibly be that dumb.

yes easily. its not that hard to convert a car to hydrogen right now.

if our oil reserves were that low then our shipping industry would be the first to convert.

hell, i know several dudes who run their cars off waste vegetable oil.

electric cars are becoming more prominent as well.

its not like we dont have several different ways to power things.

we are nowhere near having oil shortages to the degree that bread will be $20 b/c it costs so much to ship. I am sorry but its just not happening in our lifetimes.

Hazard

01-29-2011, 02:23 PM

yes easily. its not that hard to convert a car to hydrogen right now.

if our oil reserves were that low then our shipping industry would be the first to convert.

hell, i know several dudes who run their cars off waste vegetable oil.

electric cars are becoming more prominent as well.

its not like we dont have several different ways to power things.

we are nowhere near have oil shortages to the degree that bread will be $20 b/c it costs so much to ship. I am sorry but its just not happening in our lifetimes.
I hope you're right, but it will happen in our kids or grandkids lifetimes. This economy is designed to only grow, it cannot sustain itself if there are no resources. I'm not Miss Cleo so I don't know the future, but common sense tells me that shit will hit the fan at some point.

Nick Young

01-29-2011, 02:33 PM

I hope you're right, but it will happen in our kids or grandkids lifetimes. This economy is designed to only grow, it cannot sustain itself if there are no resources. I'm not Miss Cleo so I don't know the future, but common sense tells me that shit will hit the fan at some point.
Did you learn this from your retarded 15 year old friend who wears che gueverra shirts and listens to International Noise Conspiracy?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mUU1Qb0nZbU

Hazard

01-29-2011, 02:35 PM

Did you learn this from your retarded 15 year old friend who wears che gueverra shirts and listens to International Noise Conspiracy?
No, I learned this from Iraq war veterans who fought with their lives so you can have your choice to sit on Nick Young's dick and post stupid comments on an internet forum. Do everyone a favor and disappear you ****ing idiot.

LJJ

01-29-2011, 06:42 PM

In all the chaos, Egyptian have formed human-shield protecting the National Museum. :applause: They are the protectors now

Way to spread misinformation. That sounds like it's civilians protecting their national heritage (from whom right?) with their lives or whatever?

Uhm, it's actually the army protecting the national museum from the Egyptian population after the civilians had already trashed the place, destroyed a bunch of mummies and tried to torch the place.

Cairo is a massive shithole at the moment with all these protesters not just protesting but also looting and stealing everything that isn't nailed down in the process..

When I was in HS I thought I would be participating in similar protest in the US when I graduated HS. I've been disappointed for a while to see just how hard it is to get Americans to unite for anything other than sporting events. But seeing the Egyptians do their thing this week has been a huge relief to know that America is just one place where no one gives a damn.

This stuff is a relief for you? Maybe it's justified right now (I don't know really), but you know these kind of massive uprises can just as easily happen for unjust reasons.

Captain Kirk

01-29-2011, 07:14 PM

This stuff is a relief for you? Maybe it's justified right now (I don't know really), but you know these kind of massive uprises can just as easily happen for unjust reasons.

It's the reason they are protesting that's a relief. Seems like in the US no one gives a damn about anyone but themself.

Abd El-Krim

01-29-2011, 10:06 PM

It's like these people don't remember when they were beholden to sister-****ing Greeks. What a bunch of ingrates.

chazzy

01-29-2011, 10:27 PM

http://twitter.com/SultanAlQassemi/status/31337367352639488

Al Jazeera reporter: "I received calls from hospitals in Egypt by doctors telling me they have been told not to record deaths by bullets"

Dave3

01-29-2011, 10:29 PM

It's like these people don't remember when they were beholden to sister-****ing Greeks. What a bunch of ingrates.
What do they have to be thankful for? The lack of money they're receiving and the ridiculous rates of poverty and oppression against the minority groups?

Hazard

01-29-2011, 11:32 PM

Uh oh...

“Al Jazeera NOW reporting - looters on motorcycle*s caught by citizens. The moto-loote*r-thugs have government issued weapons, and ids. Speculatio*n - corrupt opportunis*ts, or provocateu*rs. Either way - "party NDP thugs"”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Bolkonsky/new-egypt-government-to-b_1_n_815682_75618046.html

Captain Kirk

01-30-2011, 03:16 AM

Uh oh...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/social/Bolkonsky/new-egypt-government-to-b_1_n_815682_75618046.html

f'n insane. I really feel for the Egyptian people right now.

Captain Kirk

01-30-2011, 04:39 AM

The tear gas being used on Egyptian protestors is/was made in the US. Figures out of all the businesses being moved to other countries, one thing we do keep here to produce are weapons to silence those seeking equality. http://tinyurl.com/4dhygp4

Hazard

01-30-2011, 01:17 PM

f'n insane. I really feel for the Egyptian people right now.
I'm not sure how legit that source is, cause I mean how the hell do you loot on a bike?

KeylessEntry

01-30-2011, 01:34 PM

:violin:

we have plenty in reserve and after that we can easily move on to natural gasses like methane and hydrogen.

feel free to remain ignorant yourself brah.

never mind that cat was talking about having Egyptian style protests right now.

People who think it will easy to move on from oil are in for a rude awakening once peak oil is past. A lot of people dont realize how many things are actually made out of petroleum and petroleum products. Each tire on your car has 7 gallons of gasoline in it, the paints on your car are derived from petroleum, virtually every piece of plastic and rubber on the planet today was made from petroleum. Whats going to happen once we dont have enough oil to make plastics anymore? It doesnt matter what type of fuel your car is running on if you cant get tires for it. Running out of oil is not nearly as simple as "just switching to natural gasses like methane and hydrogen."

and you are calling other people ignorant... smh

Hawker

01-30-2011, 01:38 PM

Hazard and KeylessEntry are correct. It'll be awhile before we run out of oil though. There's still going to be trouble in the future in terms of energy supply regardless. Energy demand is supposed to double by 2050. Fossil fuels will still be the main supplier but other energies will need to advance ten-fold to keep the supply going.

With the way technology is advancing, I don't think our kids and grandkids will really have to worry.

emsteez forreal

01-30-2011, 05:05 PM

I'm not sure how legit that source is, cause I mean how the hell do you loot on a bike?

1. ride on bike to store
2. loot
3. leave with loot on bike

Captain Kirk

01-30-2011, 06:12 PM

I must have spent hours last night looking up videos and news on what's going on right now. I want to find any protest in my area that I could possibly participate in, in the Los Angeles area. I know they had some already, wonder if there will be more.

Captain Kirk

01-30-2011, 06:13 PM

This could be bad news.

Prisoners Escape from jail
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=juGV-TmQU1g

Hazard

01-30-2011, 06:18 PM

1. ride on bike to store
2. loot
3. leave with loot on bike
Hmm... yes, that works.

Military protecting protesters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibxVoGTeQ4w&feature=feedu)

Nick Young

02-02-2011, 02:57 PM

just got back from the protests at the egyptian embassy in london.

Jackass mubarak is tryin g to hold on through violence. He is sending a bunch of police in undercover riding camels and horses beating down his own people-when the protesters take one of the thugs down they always are finding police IDs on them, Mubarak is also staging fake pro-mubarak demonstrations in alexandria with paid off actors and loyalists. BULLSHIT. Dont give up Egypt, but I dont think they will, it takes alot to get that country stirring but once they do I dont think theyll stop

HOLDING ON TO POWER TILL SEPTEMBER? BULLSHIT, and Obama's smug ass speech last night, he really is a slimy piece of shit president, 1.4 billion US dollars goes to Egypt every year, much of it STRAIGHT INTO MUBARAK'S POCKET

Rasheed1

02-02-2011, 03:42 PM

HOLDING ON TO POWER TILL SEPTEMBER? BULLSHIT, and Obama's smug ass speech last night, he really is a slimy piece of shit president, 1.4 billion US dollars goes to Egypt every year, much of it STRAIGHT INTO MUBARAK'S POCKET

Mubarak gets 1.4 mill from us because he signed the peace treaty with Israel when no0one else in that region would.. Egypt gets alot of money from the united states... 2nd only to Israel..

Its not something purely attributed to Obama.... this is US policy folks....has been f'ed up like this for a long time... we have always supported dictators while talking out the other side of our mouths about freedom

Nick Young

02-02-2011, 05:07 PM

Mubarak gets 1.4 mill from us because he signed the peace treaty with Israel when no0one else in that region would.. Egypt gets alot of money from the united states... 2nd only to Israel..

Its not something purely attributed to Obama.... this is US policy folks....has been f'ed up like this for a long time... we have always supported dictators while talking out the other side of our mouths about freedom
Stop defending Obama, he is just as shitty and slimy as Bush, he hasn't done shit to change this country and he has done nothing that he promised, oh yeah he is continuing the same bullshit underground slimy foreign policy of george bush, he just is able to spin it better with his awesome oration so that the public doesn't get too wise to it. Stop defending him just because he's amazingly charismatic and gives awesome speeches, see through the flash and all that's underneath is slime.

Rasheed1

02-02-2011, 05:22 PM

Stop defending Obama, he is just as shitty and slimy as Bush, he hasn't done shit to change this country and he has done nothing that he promised, oh yeah he is continuing the same bullshit underground slimy foreign policy of george bush, he just is able to spin it better with his awesome oration so that the public doesn't get too wise to it. Stop defending him just because he's amazingly charismatic and gives awesome speeches, see through the flash and all that's underneath is slime.

pipe down the whining son....

Im not defending Obama... Im explaining American foreign policy to the red bar crew in here....

it doesnt matter who the president is. The policy to send billions to Egypt and Israel will remain and getting mad at Obama over it only shows how little you know....

Nick Young

02-02-2011, 05:25 PM

pipe down the whining son....

Im not defending Obama... Im explaining American foreign policy to the red bar crew in here....

it doesnt matter who the president is. The policy to send billions to Egypt and Israel will remain and getting mad at Obama over it only shows how little you know....
Im not mad at Obama for sending the money, Im mad at him because from his speech last night it's completely clear he wants mubarak to stay in power, he wants Egypt to maintain peace with Israel and he wants to keep getting the Egyptian oil, did you even watch Obama was f*cking smiling while talking about the violent protests!!!:facepalm

Rasheed1

02-02-2011, 05:34 PM

Im not mad at Obama for sending the money, Im mad at him because from his speech last night it's completely clear he wants mubarak to stay in power, he wants Egypt to maintain peace with Israel and he wants to keep getting the Egyptian oil, did you even watch Obama was f*cking smiling while talking about the violent protests!!!:facepalm

No ... I dont need to watch the president.. I already knew where he stood when this happened...

He wouldnt be president if he wasnt on board with the foreign policy we have been using since forever...

I could have told you a week ago where the president stands.... where america stands...

Mubarak is America's friend..... he helped the US and Israel and is very important to American 'Interests' in the Middle East.. The US doesnt want him ousted because they know the next regime might not be soo friendly towards us and american "interests"..

Nick Young

02-02-2011, 05:38 PM

No ... I dont need to watch the president.. I already knew where he stood when this happened...

He wouldnt be president if he wasnt on board with the foreign policy we have been using since forever...

I could have told you a week ago where the president stands.... where america stands...

Mubarak is America's friend..... he helped the US and Israel and is very important to American 'Interests' in the Middle East.. The US doesnt want him ousted because they know the next regime might not be soo friendly towards us and american "interests"..
He is America's friend because America gives him 1.4 billion dollars every year to buy more weapons and go on holidays to Switzerland:facepalm

US wants the dictator who is sending out under cover police and military to shoot and beat protesters and purposefully released prisoners in jail to stay in power is what you're saying.

Sarcastic

02-02-2011, 05:40 PM

He is America's friend because America gives him 1.4 billion dollars every year to buy more weapons and go on holidays to Switzerland:facepalm

US wants the dictator who is sending out under cover police and military to shoot and beat protesters and purposefully released prisoners in jail to stay in power is what you're saying.

Mubarak isn't the first dictator that America has supported, nor will he be the last.

(edit: fixed title)

Rasheed1

02-02-2011, 07:28 PM

He is America's friend because America gives him 1.4 billion dollars every year to buy more weapons and go on holidays to Switzerland:facepalm

he is america's friend because he signed the peace accord. he is one of the first to recognize Iraq's new government.. he is a friend to the us and israel. he is another positive vote in the arab league as it pertains to israel and the u.s in situations...

as has been mentioned all over television.. Their military is damn near an extension of our military..

US wants the dictator who is sending out under cover police and military to shoot and beat protesters and purposefully released prisoners in jail to stay in power is what you're saying.

Yes...

Obama has played the middle and has even given lip service to the people of egypt but he knows as well as everyone else... If we had our way? Mubarak would be there until the day he died...

But Obama isnt going to come and defend This guy because it's obviously a wrap for him in Egypt... Everyone sees that, except Mubarak

Heilige

02-02-2011, 08:38 PM

FatComputerNerd

02-02-2011, 09:02 PM

Anderson Cooper Just Got Beat Up By Pro-Mubarak Thugs in Cairo (http://gawker.com/5749815/anderson-cooper-just-got-beat-up-by-pro+mubarak-thugs-in-cairo?skyline=true&s=i)

Katie Couric also has trouble: http://gawker.com/5750021/leave-our-katie-couric-alone

And Christian Amanpour: http://gawker.com/5750213/christiane-amanpour-gets-her-egyptian-media-beating

Abd El-Krim

02-02-2011, 09:46 PM

What do they have to be thankful for? The lack of money they're receiving and the ridiculous rates of poverty and oppression against the minority groups?

:oldlol:

Riddler

02-02-2011, 10:09 PM

This is what I call a revolution.

Go Egypt!

WOW.
:eek:

and LMAO at Anderson Cooper getting punched a dozen times.

yobore

02-02-2011, 10:30 PM

armed thugs are supposedly cracking down in the last few minutes. protesters on aljazeera sounding desperate and scared

kentatm

02-02-2011, 10:37 PM

nice move by Mubarak. Send in your goons to start fights and then say everyone need to go home b/c people are fighting

and I don't know what you people want Obama to do. He can't just come out and tell the guy to step down but he clearly wants the guy gone.

yobore

02-02-2011, 10:37 PM

sounds like a warzone now lots of gunfire

Dave3

02-02-2011, 10:40 PM

:oldlol:
???

Abd El-Krim

02-02-2011, 10:41 PM

Look at the post you responded to.

Dave3

02-02-2011, 10:42 PM

Yeah...
"It's like these people don't remember when they were beholden to sister-****ing Greeks. What a bunch of ingrates."
Still don't get it...

Abd El-Krim

02-02-2011, 10:45 PM

The joke being they're better off under Mubarak than they were the Ptolemies.

Dave3

02-02-2011, 10:49 PM

The joke being they're better off under Mubarak than they were the Ptolemies.
They're better off under neither...you said they're ingrates, and under Mubarak's rule, we (yes I'm Egyptian) had nothing to be thankful for at all...

Abd El-Krim

02-02-2011, 10:54 PM

Don't make me pelt you with a rock.

yobore

02-02-2011, 10:55 PM

suspicious coverage, they say that the gunfire isn't coming from the anti-government protesters, but yet the anti-government protesters have taken over a bridge.

Dave3

02-02-2011, 10:55 PM

Don't make me pelt you with a rock.
Lol, I'll take that joke as a you agree?

knickballer

02-02-2011, 11:10 PM

The Middle East is getting further divided...

I wonder if similar riots will happen in other mid east countries such as Iran.. Iran rev 2.0?

yobore

02-03-2011, 12:27 AM

if you haven't been watching this, do it, its surreal:
http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

in case yall are missing it there has been nonstop ridiculous live footage from a camera very far away pretty much televising a battle all night over there. you could hear lots of gunfire, then it's stopped for about an hour. about 15 minutes ago they zoomed to the bridge and thugs are just raining molotov cocktails on demonstraters, some of whom are just standing there daring them.

then a pickup full of rocks comes by and they start chucking those.

craziest footage though was the afternoon over there when the mubarak supporters charged at the crowd on camels and horses.

the sun is coming up and the numbers will probably swell again

yobore

02-03-2011, 12:54 AM

The best way for corrupt heads of states to deal with very large protests, use their corrupt money to hire local thugs to troll protesters with violence, then blame every wrong-doings on those trying-to-be-peaceful protesters.

It works.yup i feel like this one is doomed, the protesters in the square are going down in numbers, normal people in Egypt probably have no idea what happened there tonight, they will be barraged with stories of how the president conceded and yet still these troublemakers are still fighting with the innocent pro-Mubarak people.

yobore

02-03-2011, 01:31 AM

Did I just see a tanker go across the bridge? that is a driver with balls surprised it didn't get mobbed

Captain Kirk

02-03-2011, 03:55 AM

zizozain

02-03-2011, 04:38 AM

Why are there suddenly so many pro current gov't protestors? I thought the general consensus was that great change was needed and Mubarak had to go? These pro bastards are kiling people and I hear many of them are cops. F'n sickening.
they are not pro current gov't protestors.
they are mix of paid criminals + police + workers of corrupt buisness men.
they are used in every elections or situations like this .
actualy it's a well known fact to all people over there ...
that explains the 97% or 98 % of election results

it's a damm massacre going for 22 hours now
damm you mubarak

Nick Young

02-03-2011, 06:47 AM

Why are there suddenly so many pro current gov't protestors? I thought the general consensus was that great change was needed and Mubarak had to go? These pro bastards are kiling people and I hear many of them are cops. F'n sickening.
At the protest in london some random asshole guy showed up holding a "God Bless Hasni Mubarak" sign, and alot of the protesters who had family still in egypt just went ape shit crazy started yelling prayers for god to strike that guy down in the sky and then all of a sudden started to try charging the police barriers and through the actual police we had to hold them back so they wouldnt get arrested, also idiots kept coming out of the embassy driving by yelling "MUBARAK MUBARAK" the only people who actually support him are the rich families he gives money to.

Some of the thugs are confessing when they got caught that the police promised them 5000 LE ($1k) if they succeeded in taking over the square YEH RIGHT EVEN IF THEY DID THEY WOULD NEVER SEE THAT MONEY

ALSO on the facebook groups organizing the london protests there are some planted Mubarak spazzoids spamming the wall with stuff like "You guys be safe in london you dont know what its like here the people dont know what to do with freedom, Mubarak knew how to keep us in check and gave us freedoms"

A REAL LIFE TROLL, F*CK OFF AND DIE
http://oi56.tinypic.com/kbve38.jpg

YALLA MISR
http://oi54.tinypic.com/2crvjvk.jpg

Captain Kirk

02-03-2011, 09:48 AM

At the protest in london some random asshole guy showed up holding a "God Bless Hasni Mubarak" sign, and alot of the protesters who had family still in egypt just went ape shit crazy started yelling prayers for god to strike that guy down in the sky and then all of a sudden started to try charging the police barriers and through the actual police we had to hold them back so they wouldnt get arrested, also idiots kept coming out of the embassy driving by yelling "MUBARAK MUBARAK" the only people who actually support him are the rich families he gives money to.

Some of the thugs are confessing when they got caught that the police promised them 5000 LE ($1k) if they succeeded in taking over the square YEH RIGHT EVEN IF THEY DID THEY WOULD NEVER SEE THAT MONEY

ALSO on the facebook groups organizing the london protests there are some planted Mubarak spazzoids spamming the wall with stuff like "You guys be safe in london you dont know what its like here the people dont know what to do with freedom, Mubarak knew how to keep us in check and gave us freedoms"

A REAL LIFE TROLL, F*CK OFF AND DIE
http://oi56.tinypic.com/kbve38.jpg

YALLA MISR
http://oi54.tinypic.com/2crvjvk.jpg

Got damn, this is terrible. All people want is some equality, and others will fight to death to deny them of this. Meanwhile the US just sits back while the rest of world fights for the very things we claim to be such great supporters of. US needs to be protesting our own gov't here over our bs healthcare systems and our own inequality. 40% of the wealth in the US goes to 1% of the country.:facepalm

Captain Kirk

02-03-2011, 10:32 AM

Ministers and businessmen have been detained for questioning and have had their assets frozen. The question is why were police ordered to leave which eventually led to that big clash between the pro Mubarak and pro reform protestors. They are also not allowed to leave the country.

Captain Kirk

02-03-2011, 10:37 AM

Also, the Al Jazeera English site is not loading, for those looking to watch, here is there facebook where it can be watched.

http://www.facebook.com/aljazeera?ref=ts&v=app_7146470109

Captain Kirk

02-03-2011, 10:51 AM

Wow you could just hear a bunch of heavy gunfire. Sounded like big guns too:(

zizozain

02-03-2011, 11:46 AM

Wow you could just hear a bunch of heavy gunfire. Sounded like big guns too:(
snipers .. 2 dead in the last 15 minutes shot on the head

Hazard

02-03-2011, 12:33 PM

Mubarak's security vehicle drives through the crowd at 51 sec. Way to go jackass, like thats not gonna piss more people off.
Asshole (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=i5APaDE6ja8)

Captain Kirk

02-03-2011, 12:38 PM

yobore

02-03-2011, 02:16 PM

these guys in the square must be exhausted. it's been like a 48 hour brawl on all sides and before that they were demonstrating and celebrating, i doubt they've really slept for days.

Nick Young

02-03-2011, 02:36 PM

Done_And_Done

02-03-2011, 02:59 PM

Got damn, this is terrible. All people want is some equality, and others will fight to death to deny them of this. Meanwhile the US just sits back while the rest of world fights for the very things we claim to be such great supporters of. US needs to be protesting our own gov't here over our bs healthcare systems and our own inequality. 40% of the wealth in the US goes to 1% of the country.:facepalm

If your average fellow American was actually tapped into how warped & corrupt your government truly is, a similar outrage would eventually congregate and pursue but I don't see a revolt of such magnitude happening any time soon. Unfortunately in States, for every one little revolutionary or politically conscious individual, there are about 150 who would much rather watch consume their brain waves with chit chat gossip pertaining to who Tiger Woods is sleeping with today. People need to remember that a government is assembled and put in place to work for the people. Not vice versa

knickballer

02-03-2011, 03:04 PM

Got damn, this is terrible. All people want is some equality, and others will fight to death to deny them of this. Meanwhile the US just sits back while the rest of world fights for the very things we claim to be such great supporters of. US needs to be protesting our own gov't here over our bs healthcare systems and our own inequality. 40% of the wealth in the US goes to 1% of the country.:facepalm

1) Half of America doesn't even care about the Egyptian protests or know anything about it..
2) The US can't take a side.. If they do they are accused of either protecting the current regime for US interests or supporting a change of gov't. Revolution must come within. US coming in will be a short fix and will seem as us interfering with Middle East politics yet again.. Anything the US will do get scolded at.

knickballer

02-03-2011, 03:05 PM

If your average fellow American was actually tapped into how warped & corrupt your government truly is, a similar outrage would eventually congregate and pursue but I don't see a revolt of such magnitude happening any time soon. Unfortunately in States, for every one little revolutionary or politically conscious individual, there are about 150 who would much rather watch consume their brain waves with chit chat gossip pertaining to who Tiger Woods is sleeping with today. People need to remember that a government is assembled and put in place to work for the people. Not vice versa

Agreed.. The media is slowly controlling the sheeple of the US. Government borrows more money and slowly limits freedom while half of America watches American Idol.

bluechox2

02-03-2011, 03:12 PM

gotta know who wins the idol

Fuhqueue

02-03-2011, 03:46 PM

Egyptians not doing their part, only about 8 people infront of the Embassy today in London, they are getting lazy over here, acting like the mexicans of europe that they are.

Thats why its so impressive what the egyptians are doing in Cairo Suez and Alexandria they are so lazy it takes so so much to get them to actually do something.
There were hundreds of people at the rallies yesterday, Egyptians, Libyans, Algerians. There will be more on the Saturday march between the US and Egyptian embassies

Nick Young

02-03-2011, 06:51 PM

There were hundreds of people at the rallies yesterday, Egyptians, Libyans, Algerians. There will be more on the Saturday march between the US and Egyptian embassies
hmmmm infront of the Egyptian Embassy yesterday? I was just there and left at 5pm, there were about 30-40 people.

Where are the big rallies happening tomorrow?

Naruto-sama

02-10-2011, 05:34 PM

Rasheed1

02-10-2011, 08:56 PM

This sh*t is incredible... I am amazed at the balls Mubarak has.. He is basically making the military choose between him or the people....

this could either turn out to be the most wonderful thing that could happen to Egypt or the most awful thing that could happen to them..

Ultimately, Everything depends on who the military sides with.

The military gave the people a statement as sort of the go between (people-Mubarak)

Every one assumed he was stepping down.... I wonder if the army was surprised by Mubarak's decision like the people? or did they know?

SevereUpInHere

02-10-2011, 09:47 PM

Itt seems the U.S. taking siddes in the Middle Easst hurts whomeveer they're supporting more than helps. Thereseems to be such anti AMerican sentement among people in the Midddle East the U.S. might as welll support the guyy they want to lose. welll in public voicinng at leasst.

There is a huge anti-American sentiment in thh middle east. The countries I've been to at least. In Dubai and Cairo, I was treated much better by taxi drivers/store keepers once I told them I was Australian and not American.

On another note, i just finished reading this. Really good book, what's happening in Egypt right now has been simmering for years.

http://www.smh.com.au/ffximage/2008/05/09/Taxi_080509023022406_wideweb__300x450.jpg