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Eat Like A Bosh
01-31-2011, 08:41 PM
Do you guys know how much these players bench?

Kobe
LeBron
D-Wade
Dwight Howard
Kevin Durant
Derrick Rose
Russell WestBrook
Kevin Garnett

And if you know much a player benches, post it here! Whether it's regular reps or maxes.

christian1923
01-31-2011, 08:43 PM
Do you guys know how much these players bench?

Kobe
LeBron
D-Wade
Dwight Howard
Kevin Durant
Derrick Rose
Russell WestBrook
Kevin Garnett

And if you know much a player benches, post it here! Whether it's regular reps or maxes.

I dont think these players bench all that muchh im not sure tho, it messes up your shot

Matty2Cool
01-31-2011, 08:49 PM
All sad. But players arent really training to bench big numbers.

Kingsfans818
01-31-2011, 09:13 PM
Do you guys know how much these players bench?

Kobe
LeBron
D-Wade
Dwight Howard
Kevin Durant
Derrick Rose
Russell WestBrook
Kevin Garnett

And if you know much a player benches, post it here! Whether it's regular reps or maxes.

http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=3250056&page=1

^^

Kingsfans818
01-31-2011, 09:15 PM
on another note, benching is a horrible measure of strength

I can do like 40 push ups but hardly could bench one plate(long arms)

tpols
01-31-2011, 09:16 PM
http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=3250056&page=1

^^
Durant finished 78th out of 80 in workouts yet he's the best player from that class by a mile:oldlol:

Basketball has more to do with how skilled/smart/tall you are than how strong or fast you are.

PHILA
01-31-2011, 09:24 PM
Philadelphia Daily News - April 23, 1984

According to Auburn teammate Chuck Person, Barkley can bench press 330 pounds and leg lift more than 1000.

YouCallILose
01-31-2011, 09:28 PM
Philadelphia Daily News - April 23, 1984

According to Auburn teammate Chuck Person, Barkley can bench press 330 pounds and leg lift more than 1000.

Barkley was what, 230 back then? 330 bench for a professional athlete is nothing..basketball players cant bench for shit because of their long arms. I think Dwight maxes at around 350 and he's ridiculously jacked

jtj5002
01-31-2011, 09:28 PM
fisher benchs 400

tpols
01-31-2011, 09:29 PM
Barkley was what, 230 back then? 330 bench for a professional athlete is nothing..basketball players cant bench for shit because of their long arms. I think Dwight maxes at around 350 and he's ridiculously jacked
Barkley was built like a linebacker lol

Rake2204
01-31-2011, 09:32 PM
I'm sure a number of you guys could back me up on this, but Earl Boykins was rumored to bench 300+.

YouCallILose
01-31-2011, 09:33 PM
I'm sure a number of you guys could back me up on this, but Earl Boykins was rumored to bench 300+.

wouldn't be surprised..just look at corners in the nfl. some of them bench 400+ and they're 6' 180 lbs.

bench press is a horrible measure of strength

ballup
01-31-2011, 09:35 PM
All come short when compared to......

http://www.talksy.com/images/stories/8/3/4/1/1/83411_300.jpg
315 pounds for the 5'5", 139 pound man

lebob23
01-31-2011, 09:42 PM
All come short when compared to......

http://www.talksy.com/images/stories/8/3/4/1/1/83411_300.jpg
315 pounds for the 5'5", 139 pound man

impossible wheres the proof

inclinerator
01-31-2011, 09:48 PM
on another note, benching is a horrible measure of strength

I can do like 40 push ups but hardly could bench one plate(long arms)
horrible logic, you cannot convert push ups to bench press

PHILA
01-31-2011, 09:48 PM
wouldn't be surprised..just look at corners in the nfl. some of them bench 400+ and they're 6' 180 lbs.

bench press is a horrible measure of strengthWilt Chamberlain could clean and jerk 375 lbs & deadlift 625 lbs. :applause:

YouCallILose
01-31-2011, 09:49 PM
Chamberlain could clean and jerk 375 lbs & deadlift 625 lbs.

i also heard that chamberlain had a 2 foot dick

im happy for chamberlain

Matty2Cool
01-31-2011, 09:52 PM
Its painfully obvious who workouts in this thread and who doesn't. Fish benching 400 LOL.

Boykins benching 300+ at 140 LOL.

inclinerator
01-31-2011, 09:54 PM
lol'd at fish benching 400 too

YouCallILose
01-31-2011, 09:54 PM
Its painfully obvious who workouts in this thread and who doesn't. Fish benching 400 LOL.

Boykins benching 300+ at 140 LOL.

It's painfully obvious that you underestimate the natural physical ability of some professional athletes. noel devine weighs 160 lbs and he benches 405

although i highly doubt fisher benches 400+

GiveItToBurrito
01-31-2011, 09:55 PM
The bench isn't really relevant for NBA players, especially not at the kinds of high weights that would impress us. I imagine that the average very fit guy at your local gym can bench more than the typical NBA player, even though the typical NBA player is in better cardiovascular shape than almost any other athlete (with the possible exception of soccer players and boxers).

Also, as far as maxes in reps and total weight - most people who are serious about working out usually don't know what their max is. Most guys do between 5 and 12 reps at somewhere between 80% and 90% of their max, with athletes doing the higher end of the spectrum in reps. My guess is that the typical basketball player has a general idea of what they can do, but most would be lying if they gave an exact number. The one place you can find what guys are capable of is at the combine, where I know that at least Durant couldn't do any reps at like 185. That said, these guys change quite a bit physically as they get older - Garnett used to be incredibly scrawny, but he's very solid now.

Alonzo Magic
01-31-2011, 09:55 PM
I'm sure a number of you guys could back me up on this, but Earl Boykins was rumored to bench 300+.

Yeah I've heard that too. Maybe I haven't, I'm pretty stoned.

ballup
01-31-2011, 09:57 PM
impossible wheres the proof
You dare deny Boykins his glory!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrm7wZeR4t0&feature=related
Shame on you:no:

GiveItToBurrito
01-31-2011, 10:00 PM
Its painfully obvious who workouts in this thread and who doesn't. Fish benching 400 LOL.

Boykins benching 300+ at 140 LOL.

I always thought that Boykins benching that much was a tall tale or something. He's probably stronger than the typical 140 pound guy, but 300 is a lot and he'd probably be able to outmuscle a lot of guards if he could really do that much. Fisher at 400 is just not realistic. I know he's muscular, but I know guys who are bigger than him who struggle to do 300. I think he benches 400 in the same way that Nate Robinson is 5'8 or that Shaq is 300 pounds - he claims it and it's not completely impossible, but most people know it's b.s.

PHILA
01-31-2011, 10:00 PM
Barkley was what, 230 back then? 330 bench for a professional athlete is nothing..basketball players cant bench for shit because of their long arms. I think Dwight maxes at around 350 and he's ridiculously jacked
In '84 he was about 280 lbs.



i also heard that chamberlain had a 2 foot dick

im happy for chamberlain:no:

The Miami News - Nov 7, 1962 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=1XYyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2OkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2229,2425147&dq)

'He can clean and jerk a 375-lb. weight, run the quarter mile in 47s, and high-jump over 6-11.'


Sports Illustrated - March 2, 1964 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1075691/2/index.htm)

'The St. Louis Hawks' 6-foot-9, 240-pound Zelmo Beaty, for example, found out recently that he can no longer take Chamberlain's great strength for granted. Unable to slow Wilt down with conventional maltreatment, Beaty tried to yank his shorts off. Chamberlain, who can press 400 pounds without breathing hard, makes it a point to control his temper, primarily because he is genuinely afraid he might kill somebody. Beaty's unethical yank, however, was too much. Wilt flicked an arm, and Beaty flew across the floor like a man shot out of a cannon. Referee Mendy Rudolph rushed over to him and said: "For God's sake, stay down, man. Don't even twitch a muscle." Beaty didn't twitch, and he is still active in the NBA.'


The Evening Independent - Jan 6, 1967 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=TSMoAAAAIBAJ&sjid=S1cDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2229,911381&dq)

"I'd bet you $1,000 I could lift 1,000 pounds," the 76ers singular 7-1 center said, "I have. I've also hand-wrestled two men at the same time and beat them. And there's nothing I'd like to do better than play pro football."



Ocala Star-Banner - Sep 17, 1975 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_R8TAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lAUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6593,3084647&dq)

'As inconspicuously as possible for a 7-foot 1-inch impresario, Wilt Chamberlain stopped by the New York Knicks' office for a quick social hello and now he was waiting for an elevator that would take him upstairs to the Madison Square Garden arena floor. When the elevator doors opened, Wilt stepped back as two husky workmen struggled to wheel a heavily loaded dolly into the corridor. On the dolly there were 10 big cartons of envelopes. For perhaps a minute the workmen pushed and pulled, trying to get the wheels of the dolly across the uneven gap between the elevator and the floor, huffing and puffing, they finally dropped their hands in frustration. "You look," Wilt said, "like you need a little help," His massive arms unencumbered by a chocolate sleeveless shirt, he reached down, grabbed the rope attached to the dolly and lifted the load into the corridor as if it had been a baby in a stroller. The workmen stared and thanked him. Wilt smiled, entered the elevator and the doors closed.

"I never saw anything like that," one of the workmen said. "These carton each weight about 80 pounds. This is an 800 pound load."

That's the approximate weight of four Knick teammates. And if Wilt were to join the Knicks for the approaching National Basketball Association season, he believes he could lift the team into contention with the Boston Celtics for the Atlantic Division title.'

PHILA
01-31-2011, 10:02 PM
http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm

NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain 4-18-97

Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:
M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs like it was a match stick at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now.

zay_24
01-31-2011, 10:04 PM
Wilt chamberlain never benched over 300

Real Men Wear Green
01-31-2011, 10:06 PM
I dont think these players bench all that muchh im not sure tho, it messes up your shot
It messes your shot up if you aren't used to lifting. Once you get accustomed to weights it's fine, there are internet videos of guys like T-Mac working out. In fact certain triceps exercises make you a better shooter and better able to hit shots with contact.

Matty2Cool
01-31-2011, 10:10 PM
It's painfully obvious that you underestimate the natural physical ability of some professional athletes. noel devine weighs 160 lbs and he benches 405

although i highly doubt fisher benches 400+

Lol you don't know crap about lifting iron.

http://www.criticalbench.com/benchpress-ratings.htm

please stfu about basketball players having big benches. They are tall lanky twigs and don't push heavy weight, as a rule. Theres very few exceptions and those exceptions aren't as superhuman as you guys are making them out to seem by blowing up their numbers. Go lift some weights.

Jasper
01-31-2011, 10:19 PM
Durant finished 78th out of 80 in workouts yet he's the best player from that class by a mile:oldlol:

Basketball has more to do with how skilled/smart/tall you are than how strong or fast you are.


He's fake strong

Eat Like A Bosh
01-31-2011, 10:21 PM
Btw, according to the internet, Kobe maxes out at around 300-315, and benches 195 for pregame warmups.

But Bench Press doesn't matter that much, cause Benching a lot more doesn't make you a better basketball player. And having long arms make it harder.

jlauber
01-31-2011, 10:23 PM
Wilt chamberlain never benched over 300

Where's YOUR proof? PHILA produced a ton of evidence in HIS posts.

inclinerator
01-31-2011, 10:28 PM
it helps with upper body stregnth and contact in the paint

BoxOutBOXOUT
01-31-2011, 10:29 PM
on another note, benching is a horrible measure of strength

I can do like 40 push ups but hardly could bench one plate(long arms)
LOL. Keep telling yourself that.

Seriously, if you can't bench even one plate, you're weak. I don't care how many push-ups you can do.

A 130# guy can do 40 pushups while a 200# guy can do 30. Who's the stronger one? Push-ups are relative. A plate is subjective. If you can't move even one, you need to hit the gym more.

I'm not saying big bench numbers are important, but when used as a benchmark (no pun intended) for strength, not being able to lift 1 plate is pretty pathetic.

PHILA
01-31-2011, 10:34 PM
Btw, according to the internet, Kobe maxes out at around 300-315, and benches 195 for pregame warmups.

But Bench Press doesn't matter that much, cause Benching a lot more doesn't make you a better basketball player. And having long arms make it harder.

USA TODAY - 11/11/2002 (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/2002-11-11-bryant-cover_x.htm)


"It's like a kid in a candy store. 'Suddenly I've got this,' " is how Lakers assistant coach Jim Cleamons describes Bryant trying out his stronger physique.

It's a product of six hours a day, six days a week of offseason workouts, of weight training, sprints, shooting drills and creative drills to improve his speed, quickness and agility. Bryant can squat 400 pounds and bench-press 300, football player numbers.

"I just worked extremely hard," Bryant says. "Hopefully, I can get in the post a little more and start abusing some guys down on the block. But just staying healthy is the main thing."

Bryant's added upper-body bulk "helps keep people off of him," Lakers coach Phil Jackson says. "He's got a zone to protect himself with because he's got strength in his arms. He's got to be careful he doesn't use it to be overaggressive ... He'll learn how to play with it. Trial and error is the best teacher for Kobe."

DuMa
01-31-2011, 10:57 PM
big ben and shaq. unquestionably the best bench pressers in the nba

D.J.
01-31-2011, 11:37 PM
I remember watching a Pistons game back in 2005 I believe and they said Ben Wallace was able to bench over 400 pounds. Looking at his arms, I don't doubt that at all. Derek Fisher benching 400, no. He's definitely very strong and I'm sure he can bench well over 3 bills, but definitely not 400. Dwight Howard can't even bench 400. And just an FYI, only .5% of those that bench press can bench double their weight.

Ikill
01-31-2011, 11:40 PM
Durant finished 78th out of 80 in workouts yet he's the best player from that class by a mile:oldlol:

Basketball has more to do with how skilled/smart/tall you are than how strong or fast you are.
I would say Athleticism and ball handling are the most important things Durant has average athleticism but amazing length and handles the ball well for his size.

LA_Showtime
01-31-2011, 11:43 PM
Who gives a shit. How much one can bench is the worst indication of strength ever. Seriously. The only thing it's good for is bragging rights. I'm more interested in how much NBA players can squat.

LA_Showtime
01-31-2011, 11:44 PM
Its painfully obvious who workouts in this thread and who doesn't. Fish benching 400 LOL.

Boykins benching 300+ at 140 LOL.

What are you talking about? That's not ridiculous at all. :oldlol: I guess that's your way of calling out yourself.

tpols
01-31-2011, 11:44 PM
I would say Athleticism and ball handling are the most important things Durant has average athleticism but amazing length and handles the ball well for his size.
Well, ballhandling is a skill.

And athleticism is just icing on the cake. The greatest ballers and winners of all time were that way because they were smart above all else.

LA_Showtime
01-31-2011, 11:45 PM
The bench isn't really relevant for NBA players, especially not at the kinds of high weights that would impress us. I imagine that the average very fit guy at your local gym can bench more than the typical NBA player, even though the typical NBA player is in better cardiovascular shape than almost any other athlete (with the possible exception of soccer players and boxers).

Also, as far as maxes in reps and total weight - most people who are serious about working out usually don't know what their max is. Most guys do between 5 and 12 reps at somewhere between 80% and 90% of their max, with athletes doing the higher end of the spectrum in reps. My guess is that the typical basketball player has a general idea of what they can do, but most would be lying if they gave an exact number. The one place you can find what guys are capable of is at the combine, where I know that at least Durant couldn't do any reps at like 185. That said, these guys change quite a bit physically as they get older - Garnett used to be incredibly scrawny, but he's very solid now.

Yup. And a lot of players aren't exactly built for the bench press. Long armed people have a ton of trouble with it (Durant).

LastChanceToWin
01-31-2011, 11:45 PM
So far I have seen a great amount of allegations but ZERO videos posted.

daballa13
01-31-2011, 11:57 PM
on another note, benching is a horrible measure of strength

I can do like 40 push ups but hardly could bench one plate(long arms)

STFU softie, bench press is the best test of true upper-body strength, 40 push-ups is soft btw.

LA_Showtime
01-31-2011, 11:58 PM
STFU softie, bench press is the best test of true upper-body strength, 40 push-ups is soft btw.

Dead lift?

daballa13
02-01-2011, 12:01 AM
Dead lift?

Deadlift is for true overall body strength, it incorporates mainly the lower back and the glutes/hamstrings, for upper-body strength bench is king no if's and's or but's son.

Ikill
02-01-2011, 12:01 AM
Well, ballhandling is a skill.

And athleticism is just icing on the cake. The greatest ballers and winners of all time were that way because they were smart above all else.
If your an amazing athlete and skilled and kind of smart superstar potential is there or very smart and very skilled with decent athleticism. But i would still rank Athleticism/ size as being most important.

LA_Showtime
02-01-2011, 12:04 AM
What separates the great players from the great athletes is usually superior ball handling skills, although yes, athletic ability determines your overall ceiling as a player. See Allen, Ray.

Ikill
02-01-2011, 12:08 AM
What separates the great players from the great athletes is usually superior ball handling skills, although yes, athletic ability determines your overall ceiling as a player. See Allen, Ray.
Yeah thats what i'm pretty much saying

The_Yearning
02-01-2011, 12:15 AM
How much can Brandon Jennings bench?

inclinerator
02-01-2011, 01:17 AM
How much can Brandon Jennings bench?
bout 135 for 5

Borat
02-01-2011, 01:27 AM
Barkley was what, 230 back then? 330 bench for a professional athlete is nothing..basketball players cant bench for shit because of their long arms. I think Dwight maxes at around 350 and he's ridiculously jacked

More like 330

G.O.A.T
02-01-2011, 02:04 AM
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7ttvq_how-much-ya-bench_fun

Shep
02-01-2011, 09:33 AM
lol @ kobe squatting 400. funniest shit i heard all day. he probably puts 400 on ther bar, tries to lift the bar, lifts the bar a half inch in the air, then puts the bar back.

number23
02-01-2011, 10:01 AM
I played some high school and some college ball and consider myself a rather athletic guy who currently is a lifter.

Since I can bench sets of 225 approx 8 reps a set, im going to assume these athletes are in better shape than I and can likely lift heavier weight. So I would say at the minimum they should be benching two plates.

I agree deadlift is the king of exercises. Here is where my strong legs come into play and good genetics. I max out at 4 reps of 525. I'm going to assume that is above average. I'd also assume that every person in the NBA can atleast deadlift two plates (225). (which isn't much) If you deadlift often, your strength increases rather quickly overall.

JohnnySic
02-01-2011, 10:02 AM
Bench press is an overrated excercise.

Squats, deadlifts, and rows are much better indicators of strength.

number23
02-01-2011, 10:05 AM
Bench press is an overrated excercise.

Squats, deadlifts, and rows are much better indicators of strength.


I'd throw Push press in that category as well. A standing military press movement which includes your legs also.

I don't mean to turn this into an exercise advice thread, sorry about that. :D

alenleomessi
02-01-2011, 10:39 AM
Any knows how much Ike Diogu can bench?

Apocalyptic0n3
02-01-2011, 01:10 PM
Ben Wallace could bench 450-500 in his prime, I believe. Not sure about the people on the list, but Wallace would have to be up there on the strongest in the league list.

lebob23
02-01-2011, 01:39 PM
at 17 5"8 and 185 I could bench 170 6-12 times without any prior weightlifting literally the second time I seriously worked out how good is that for comparison

Eat Like A Bosh
02-01-2011, 11:08 PM
Bench press is an overrated excercise.

Squats, deadlifts, and rows are much better indicators of strength.
Not really, Bench Press is upper body strength.
Squats are lower body, for your legs/calves.

LAClipsFan33
02-02-2011, 12:07 AM
For overall full body strength power clean is the best indicator...