Kobe Bryant vs Michael Jordan ( who was the better in game dunker )

[griffmoney1784]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQH2JqQBuI

put together some video of both guys best in game dunks

[New York Knicks]

Not sure if serious.

[SAKOTXA]

MJ...:facepalm

[Iraqnback]

:facepalm MJ.....please end this thread:lol :roll:

[eliteballer]

Kobe and its not close:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

[Mr. Bryant]

Jordon is the most overrated dunker of all time.

[griffmoney1784]

did anyone even watch the video ?

[KB2009Champ]

Kobe and its not close:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

damn. watching that brings back so many memories. i feel bad for the kids on here that didnt get to see kobe play in his athletic prime.

ill say this much, he was a way better in game dunker than lebron ever will be. the creativity is not even close.

[StacksOnDeck]

I don't think people realize how good of an in game dunker Kobe was. But of course the same kiddies who never watched MJ play are the ones that post MJ DUH! just because they're media puppets.

[Mr. Jabbar]

did anyone even watch the video ?

me. great video. love that song too.

Both are impressive. i give the advantage to jordan for the better hangtime, elevation and ball carrying with his big hands.

If ya want a better case for kobe against jordon make a kobe vs mj video regarding the jumper

[nnn123]

kobe's a better in game dunker....if you're a girl and like "pretty" 360 dunks that aren't too hard to pull off. Jordan if you like difficult dunks that no one can pull off

[Iraqnback]

damn. watching that brings back so many memories. i feel bad for the kids on here that didnt get to see kobe play in his athletic prime.

ill say this much, he was a way better in game dunker than lebron ever will be. the creativity is not even close.

And I feel sorry for kids that didn't even get to see MJ or Cylde the Glide in their primes....

[StacksOnDeck]

Man, crazy to see Kobe doing WINDMILLS in traffic over two defenders.

[knightfall88]

c'mon. Love MJ but how can he compete with 360s, double clutch windmills, self alley opps dunks all in traffic.

[New York Knicks]

No amount of creativity can bridge the gap in athleticism.

[eliteballer]

No Jordan dunk mix can compare, let alone top this:pimp:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

[griffmoney1784]

kobe's a better in game dunker....if you're a girl and like "pretty" 360 dunks that aren't too hard to pull off. Jordan if you like difficult dunks that no one can pull off

jordans dunks looked smoother, and he looked more like he was flying

kobes dunks looked more difficult. more skilled, more different

i would say jordan has 5 in game dunks

kobe has around 10 in game dunks

[alenleomessi]

All i see here is one guy opening a thread and asking who is better in-game dunker Kobe or MJ, and saying its Kobe and its not even close with 10 of his troll accounts

[New York Knicks]

jordans dunks looked smoother, and he looked more like he was flying

kobes dunks looked more difficult. more skilled, more different

i would say jordan has 5 in game dunks

kobe has around 10 in game dunks
I think what you meant to say was Kobe made dunking look hard. That's because his hands are tiny as **** and his vertical leap is mediocre. And of course Jordan's dunks look like he was flying his vertical is at least half a foot higher than Kobe's.

[griffmoney1784]

No Jordan dunk mix can compare, let alone top this:pimp:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs


while the dunks look better

the video is 10 times worse quality than the one i posted

[New York Knicks]

Not that it matters anyway because Vince Carter shits on both of them.

[DeronMillsap]

me. great video. love that song too.

Both are impressive. i give the advantage to jordan for the better hangtime, elevation and ball carrying with his big hands.

If ya want a better case for kobe against jordon make a kobe vs mj video regarding the jumper
This!

[griffmoney1784]

I think what you meant to say was Kobe made dunking look hard. That's because his hands are tiny as **** and his vertical leap is mediocre. And of course Jordan's dunks look like he was flying his vertical is at least half a foot higher than Kobe's.


kobes hangtime in slightly worse. while his creativity is 10 times jordans

how can someone say theyre the greatest dunker ever when they never even did a 360 in a game or a dunk contest

or a between the legs

or a legit windmill


jordans windmill is a steve francis like bent arm windmill motion. while kobe has done the full extended arm one mutiple times

[New York Knicks]

kobes hangtime in slightly worse. while his creativity is 10 times jordans

how can someone say theyre the greatest dunker ever when they never even did a 360 in a game or a dunk contest

or a between the legs

or a legit windmill


jordans windmill is a steve francis like bent arm windmill motion. while kobe has done the full extended arm one mutiple times
Kobe's are NOT full windmills. Only Carter (and T-Mac I think) has ever done a real windmill in-game. Kobe's hands are definitely not big enough to pull off a real windmill. He might be creative but he doesn't have the physical tools to pull off top-level dunks.

[Fatal9]

Kobe's baseline windmills > any of Jordan's dunks

[eliteballer]

Why are New Yorkers always the biggest Jordan Jockers? Fools got a sh!t franchise so they bandwagon on him:lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtn5qhR9cvU

[griffmoney1784]

Kobe's are NOT full windmills. Only Carter (and T-Mac I think) has ever done a real windmill in-game. Kobe's hands are definitely not big enough to pull off a real windmill. He might be creative but he doesn't have the physical tools to pull off top-level dunks.

really?

2 feet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQH2JqQBuI#t=7m12s


1 foot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrw4Zb7d9ZY

find me a video of jordan doing a 360 or an extended arm windmill in a game and il give you 500$

[New York Knicks]

really?

2 feet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQH2JqQBuI#t=7m12s


1 foot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrw4Zb7d9ZY

find me a video of jordan doing a 360 or an extended arm windmill in a game and il give you 500$
Where did I say Jordan did a windmill? I said Carter. Lol. And Jordan wins by default just for being physically superior.

[griffmoney1784]

Where did I say Jordan did a windmill? I said Carter. Lol. And Jordan wins by default just for being physically superior.


you said "kobes never did a full legit windmil in game"

and i just posted 2 of them

you lose

Kobe > jordan :lol

[knightfall88]

And Jordan wins by default just for being physically superior.


No amount of creativity can bridge the gap in athleticism.

exactly why no one is going to take you seriously in this topic.

[New York Knicks]

These are what full windmills look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbbYtaolm2A

[New York Knicks]

exactly why no one is going to take you seriously in this topic.
You really think Kobe is even close to MJ in terms of athleticism? That's like comparing LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony.

[Fatal9]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXuq3RCUrO0

horrible extension

[New York Knicks]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXuq3RCUrO0

horrible extension
What I find hilarious is that Kobe wouldn't even be able to pull of that exact same dunk cause his hands are too small. Bad example.

Here's a parting gift:
http://i696.photobucket.com/albums/vv329/Fatal9/fatal_kanye.gif

Night Kobe trolls.

[griffmoney1784]

These are what full windmills look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbbYtaolm2A

so how are those any different

:roll:


vince makes them look better obviously but out of kobe and jordan only 1 of them have done fully extended arm windmills, 360's, or between the legs


jordan is overrated as a dunker

[Mr. Jabbar]

These are what full windmills look like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbbYtaolm2A



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[nnn123]

Kobe's baseline windmills > any of Jordan's dunks

When it comes to the Jordan vs Kobe dunk debate, it's all a matter of personal preference. I can say that this sh!ts all over any of Kobe's dunks and my opinion would be just as legit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79xcUCf14rM&playnext=1&list=PL312527564260F4DD

[griffmoney1784]

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cant argue...

vince is goat dunker

thats why im arguing kobe vs mj

[knightfall88]

You really think Kobe is even close to MJ in terms of athleticism? That's like comparing LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony.

Oh is that what the topic says? Because I swear reading it, it mentioned something about in game dunking. And Kobe is the better in game dunker. Just because he done a lot more creative dunks.

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJniT1KGeE&t=2m02s

>Any Jordan dunk

[griffmoney1784]

Oh is that what the topic says? Because I swear reading it, it mentioned something about in game dunking. And Kobe is the better in game dunker.

yup

lebron james has 5 times the athleticism as kobe aswell

but his in game dunks are lame

[Mr. Jabbar]

Bring back Kobes AFRO for all that is good and holy in basketball

[shallehalle]

yup

lebron james has 5 times the athleticism as kobe aswell

but his in game dunks are lame
1) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSZY75UC8m0

2) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMy0Nd6D5-k

3) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaOCCg8KN4g

4) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UpyYLwSoR8

5) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WARb1dPlspg

[shallehalle]

kobe is not even better than rider as a dunker,his slam dunk championship is a joke,the worst dunking winner ever :roll:
i think you meant nate winning last year

[necya]

jordans dunks looked smoother, and he looked more like he was flying

kobes dunks looked more difficult. more skilled, more different

i would say jordan has 5 in game dunks

kobe has around 10 in game dunks

jesus, you are so pathetic...

first of all, you won't find all the greatest dunk of MJ on youtube just because games from 84-93 are not all available whereas kobe's are all known as he started in 96.

your devotion for kobe is unbelievable but you are so blind that i'm sure you really think kobe is a better dunker than MJ.
damn, you can't compete with MJ in the air, he had the total package - once again - graceful, power, athleticism, agility, quickness. put all those quality and you got the pure style. and he knew how to use all his qualities.
i'm a lover of Dominique and Kemp nasty tomahawk, but they don't have unfortunately the whole package.

[jstern]

Vince is number one.

The thing about Jordan is that since there was no 3 seconds defensive rule back then, he has an insane amount of face to face dunks on all the great centers in the 90s. That's what I call really dunking on someone, not like in this era where someone comes from the side, barely makes contact with Kobe or whoever is dunking, and they call it dunking on them. Not criticizing the era, but the 3 seconds defensive rule.

[elementally morale]

Good video and good question. To each his own, I guess. They are both very good and both less spectacular than Vince Carter.

MJ was more powerful, jumped higher, was quicker and more decisive. Kobe's ingame dunks are more creative though. If you want athletic ability, Jordan. If choreography, Kobe. If both, Vince.

[sh0wtime]

You have to be kidding me?

[elementally morale]

You have to be kidding me?

After having watched the top10 windmill dunks by VC posted in this thread earlier, both MJ and Kobe look rather pedestrian.

[DaHeezy]

This thread turned into a who's homers are more obnoxious, Kobe's or Jordan's. So far Jordan's by a hair

I find it funny how posters say things like don't disrespect another player to promote your own. I defend Miller's statement against Griffin and I get told this, and yet a whole thread goes on about it and nothing said.

Typical

[az00m]

kobes hangtime in slightly worse. while his creativity is 10 times jordans

how can someone say theyre the greatest dunker ever when they never even did a 360 in a game or a dunk contest

or a between the legs

or a legit windmill


jordans windmill is a steve francis like bent arm windmill motion. while kobe has done the full extended arm one mutiple times

Lol too bad he was one of the most dull dunkers of all time in the dunk contest.... :facepalm

[Dionysus]

Top In Game Dunkers of Ever Times.

1. Blake Griffin
2. Vince Carter
3. Shawn Kemp
4. Dominique Wilkins
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Michael Jordan
7. Amare Stoudemire
8. Kenyon Martin
9. Dr. J
10. LeBron James

[DaHeezy]

Top In Game Dunkers of Ever Times.

1. Blake Griffin
2. Vince Carter
3. Shawn Kemp
4. Dominique Wilkins
5. Kobe Bryant
6. Michael Jordan
7. Amare Stoudemire
8. Kenyon Martin
9. Dr. J
10. LeBron James

I respect your list but:

Vince by far and away is number 1.

I'd have Shaq in there.

Kenyon and Amare over Julius?

[Indian guy]

Kobe could bring the ball back further on dunks(longer arms?), which gave his dunks more authority. Have no problem with people considering him a better dunker.

[kaiiu]

Jordan dunked more, got higher and was more graceful. Creativity goes to Kobe doe imo

[Dionysus]

I respect your list but:

Vince by far and away is number 1.

I'd have Shaq in there.

Kenyon and Amare over Julius?

Blake is better my friend.

Shaq is good, but not my top 10 material. Dr. J is not a better in game dunker than Amare and Kenyon. Life tells us to respect the past, but don't go overboard my friend. Most of his dunks are really basic one hand jams, nothing special.

[knightfall88]

Kobe Top 20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9RzVSOdUQ
I love the double pump dunks in traffic
And who said Kobe can't do a real windmill?


And forget Kobe and MJ. Vince and Dominique were superior dunkers respectively anyways

[SinJackal]

I think Jordan was better at dunking on people, and making contested dunks. It's pretty obvious in the videos of Jordan's dunks, as with no three second rule, there was pretty much always a 7'+ big man contesting shots at the basket at all times except on fast breaks.

Kobe's dunks are more flashy though. The dunks in this era are more flashy in general than the 90's. Playersnow seem to look forward to cherry picking a flashy fast break dunk to make the highlights. There is also no three second rule, so you see more dunks in the halfcourt sets than in the past, since you aren't allowed to protect the paint as well as in the past.

I don't think that makes him a "better dunker" neccessarily, just a flashier one. Basically, Kobe in his prime pulled off flashier in game dunks, but Jordan could force in his dunks pretty much at will, and through more frequent REAL contests at the rim.

So Kobe's look a little better, but Jordan could dunk on people more, and did it more often. Imo, that makes Jordan the "better in game dunker". Taking nothing away from Kobe though, he had some cool-looking dunks.

[knightfall88]

I think Jordan was better at dunking on people, and making contested dunks. It's pretty obvious in the videos of Jordan's dunks, as with no three second rule, there was pretty much always a 7'+ big man contesting shots at the basket at all times except on fast breaks.

Kobe's dunks are more flashy though. The dunks in this era are more flashy in general than the 90's. Playersnow seem to look forward to cherry picking a flashy fast break dunk to make the highlights. There is also no three second rule, so you see more dunks in the halfcourt sets than in the past, since you aren't allowed to protect the paint as well as in the past.

I don't think that makes him a "better dunker" neccessarily, just a flashier one. Basically, Kobe in his prime pulled off flashier in game dunks, but Jordan could force in his dunks pretty much at will, and through more frequent REAL contests at the rim.

So Kobe's look a little better, but Jordan could dunk on people more, and did it more often. Imo, that makes Jordan the "better in game dunker". Taking nothing away from Kobe though, he had some cool-looking dunks.

You think he could dunk as much in todays game? Lebron is twice the athlete Jordan is and many guards that could match MJ yet no one can dunk as much he could? So whoever dunks the most is the best dunker?

[Calabis]

You think he could dunk as much in todays game? Lebron is twice the athlete Jordan is and many guards that could match MJ yet no one can dunk as much he could? So whoever dunks the most is the best dunker?

Please tell me ur not serious

[Calabis]

really?

2 feet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQH2JqQBuI#t=7m12s


1 foot http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrw4Zb7d9ZY

find me a video of jordan doing a 360 or an extended arm windmill in a game and il give you 500$

Find me a vid of Kobe leaning sideways, jumping at least 10 feet out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsqLtuyCvYY

or show me one of Kobe rocking the cradle from 12 feet out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nb7qea2hRo

You Kobestans kill me, your comparing a era where handchecking rerouted drives to the hoop, and legit bigs clogged the key, to and era where once you get by your guy(who is not allowed to reroute you with his hands or body), its a open lane, because there is no big there(Def 3 seconds), dumb ass comparison.

[macpierce]

its closer than you would like it to be if youre a hater..........
just saying :banana:

[griffmoney1784]

Find me a vid of Kobe leaning sideways, jumping at least 10 feet out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsqLtuyCvYY

or show me one of Kobe rocking the cradle from 12 feet out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nb7qea2hRo

You Kobestans kill me, your comparing a era where handchecking rerouted drives to the hoop, and legit bigs clogged the key, to and era where once you get by your guy(who is not allowed to reroute you with his hands or body), its a open lane, because there is no big there(Def 3 seconds), dumb ass comparison.


man that leaning dunk is a short mans dunk

steve frances did it all the time. its for people who feel like they have short arms

why did jordan always think this? probly why he has no full windmills

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Nice Video Griff

BTW what beat was that in the mix? ****ing sick:applause:

repped

[CelticBaller]

This griffmoney idiot is the biggest kobe ******ger ever. His post always are dicussions like Kobe vs Lebron, Kobe vs Jordan, Kobe vs everyone :facepalm

[gengiskhan]

You think he could dunk as much in todays game? Lebron is twice the athlete Jordan is and many guards that could match MJ yet no one can dunk as much he could? So whoever dunks the most is the best dunker?

This is exactly when I started LMAO. :roll: :roll: Nice joke BTW.

Fact: Lebron is not even Half the athlete Dominique was. (HINT: 'Nique 1985, 1990 Slam Dunk Champ. Lebron-None)

Queen James is so very scared that He might loose to Blake in dunk contest. My ass Lebron is a super athlete. Forget MJ, Lebron is lower than Nique in athletic stuff.

rest my case.

[andgar923]

I don't think I've seen Kobe jump from one side of the lane through traffic, double pump to avoid 2-3 defenders, glide to the other side and dunk it before.

I don't think I've ever seen Kobe catch the ball, take 2 dribbles, jump from the outside of the paint, get hit while in the air enough to make him lean sideways, and still finish the dunk with authority.

I don't think I've ever seen Kobe glide through traffic and move the ball in the air with one hand to avoid getting the ball blocked, all while leaning sideways and finish with a dunk.

The only dunks that I've seen Kobe do in a game that MJ hasn't done are the 360s, but that's it. And it aint like he can't do them, he just didn't find himself in a position where he had too.

Some of the 360s that Kobe's done were because due to his momentum, hand size and leaping abilities found it easier to adjust to that dunk. Mj never had to adjust to do that type of dunk, he'd just jump higher and move the ball in the air. He also didn't have to calculate or gather himself before he jumped. He could take off from any foot, any angle, any side, any position, and finish the dunk.

Kinda like the 360 layups that people do in traffic. 99% of the time it's because that's the shot that they're forced into doing for one reason or another.

[Glide2keva]

Love this Jordan dunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tq11VVkdPZU&feature=related

and this one too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bPHIP8Td04&feature=related

[IGOTGAME]

I don't think I've seen Kobe jump from one side of the lane through traffic, double pump to avoid 2-3 defenders, glide to the other side and dunk it before.

I don't think I've ever seen Kobe catch the ball, take 2 dribbles, jump from the outside of the paint, get hit while in the air enough to make him lean sideways, and still finish the dunk with authority.

I don't think I've ever seen Kobe glide through traffic and move the ball in the air with one hand to avoid getting the ball blocked, all while leaning sideways and finish with a dunk.

The only dunks that I've seen Kobe do in a game that MJ hasn't done are the 360s, but that's it. And it aint like he can't do them, he just didn't find himself in a position where he had too.

Some of the 360s that Kobe's done were because due to his momentum, hand size and leaping abilities found it easier to adjust to that dunk. Mj never had to adjust to do that type of dunk, he'd just jump higher and move the ball in the air. He also didn't have to calculate or gather himself before he jumped. He could take off from any foot, any angle, any side, any position, and finish the dunk.

Kinda like the 360 layups that people do in traffic. 99% of the time it's because that's the shot that they're forced into doing for one reason or another.


Let me preface this by saying MJ is a better in game dunker flat out. Also, I disagree about Kobe's 360's being about momentum and other factors. I think sometimes he added a little extra style on his dunks.

But Kobe has done dunks Jordan never did. For example, baseline windmills and baseline reverses.

Baseline Windmill over KG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92pAVblBui0&feature=related

I don't remember MJ doing a pump reverse off a baseline drive like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lA4gVPQaTY

Also never seen MK do the dunks at 2:48(vs. Jazz) and 3:00(vs. 76ers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpy-fVfDxU

MJ did lots of dunks Kobe just can't do but Kobe has a very impressive resume of dunks and some of them Jordan just never did. To pretend that didnt happen is disingenuous.

[andgar923]

Let me preface this by saying MJ is a better in game dunker flat out.

But Kobe has done dunks Jordan never did. For example, baseline windmills and baseline reverses.

Baseline Windmill over KG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92pAVblBui0&feature=related

I don't remember MJ doing a pump reverse off a baseline drive like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lA4gVPQaTY

Also never seen MK do the dunks at 2:48(vs. Jazz) and 3:00(vs. 76ers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpy-fVfDxU

MJ did lots of dunks Kobe just can't do but Kobe has a very impressive resume of dunks and some of them Jordan just never did. To pretend that didnt happen is disingenuous.

Yes he has to the 1st three.

[IGOTGAME]

Yes he has to the 1st two.

please show me. I have never seen any of them. Jordan's stuff is very well documented on youtube(even moreso, then Kobe's earlier year).

[andgar923]

please show me. I have never seen either one.

I aint got time right now, but I will when I get home from work.

[andgar923]

please show me. I have never seen any of them. Jordan's stuff is very well documented on youtube(even moreso, then Kobe's earlier year).

No it hasn't been as well documented.... not close.

[IGOTGAME]

No it hasn't been as well documented.... not close.

I have trouble finding highlights from young Kobe. There are barely any tape of Kobe's first three years in the league on youtube. The majority of the stuff on youtube about Kobe Bryant starts in 2005-2006. And most of that stuff is centered around 2008-present(not even Kobe's prime highlight years)

People like Bruce Blitz spend there life ruffling through old game tape posting up videos from all parts of Jordan's career. Kobe's nutjobs havent gone that far yet.

[Soundwave]

Jordan was better.

[Noob Saibot]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ou9RzVSOdUQ

^it's funny that some of those dunks Kobe falls down. rarely do you see Jordan, Vince, or even LeBron fall down after a big dunk.

[IGOTGAME]

^it's funny that some of those dunks Kobe falls down. rarely do you see Jordan, Vince, or even LeBron fall down after a big dunk.

he isnt the same level of athlete as those three guys are...But he is a fearless dunker and pushes his athletic capabilities to the max. The tendency along with his creativity make him a unique in game dunker.

[Noob Saibot]

he isnt the same level of athlete as those three guys are...But he is a fearless dunker and pushes his athletic capabilities to the max. The tendency along with his creativity make him a unique in game dunker.

^you could say the same thing for other players out there like Wade, McGrady, Steve Francis, Griffin, Iguodala, Ricky Davis (thought Davis and Iguodala aren't near as talented).

[Nevaeh]

^it's funny that some of those dunks Kobe falls down. rarely do you see Jordan, Vince, or even LeBron fall down after a big dunk.

That's because Kobe's clumsier than those other guys. at least the "young, fearless" version.

It seems as if Jordan simply got bored with fancy dunks by the time the 90s started. He'd have the occasional flash dunk, but pretty much stuck to the "lean" one hand flush on fastbreaks.

Jordan made his dunks seem effortless, although Kobe was more of a risk taker for his level of ability. It was as if he wanted to see what his threshold was for every aspect of the game, dunks included.

[Hulk Hogan]

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/02/05/kobes-greatest-hits-v/?ls=iref:nbahpt1


Kobe and its not even close!

[IGOTGAME]

^you could say the same thing for other players out there like Wade, McGrady, Steve Francis, Griffin, Iguodala, Ricky Davis (thought Davis and Iguodala aren't near as talented).

Griffin does fall down after a lot of his dunks. That fearlessness is probably a part of the reason why. All the other dunkers arent anywhere near the in game dunker that Kobe is.

If you push you athletism as far as you possibly can on dunks then there is a lot higher chance you fall. Just my experience.

For example Im never going to fall on a regular dunk, but if I try to windmill I probably will.

[Noob Saibot]

That's because Kobe's clumsier than those other guys. at least the "young, fearless" version.

It seems as if Jordan simply got bored with fancy dunks by the time the 90s started. He'd have the occasional flash dunk, but pretty much stuck to the "lean" one hand flush on fastbreaks.

Jordan made his dunks seem effortless, although Kobe was more of a risk taker for his level of ability. It was as if he wanted to see what his threshold was for every aspect of the game, dunks included.

^i agree. now if Jordan really got bored, he would never dunk again. it would be just layups. but in truth, Jordan was already in his 30s, plus he retired for 2 years. Dunking is not a priority anymore when u been doing it since college.

[vincentda]

Jordan dunked on more player but when Kobe came in the league he was doing more fancy 360s, windmills, reverse dunks than any NBA player before him.

For those having a hard time finding Kobe clips, here's just about every Kobe dunk from his first few years. Many of these came from my personal vhs tapes of every Laker recap from the mid to late 90s. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-cJDSXXDmI (dunks start at the 2:20 mark)

[Noob Saibot]

Griffin does fall down after a lot of his dunks. That fearlessness is probably a part of the reason why. All the other dunkers arent anywhere near the in game dunker that Kobe is.

If you push you athletism as far as you possibly can on dunks then there is a lot higher chance you fall. Just my experience.

For example Im never going to fall on a regular dunk, but if I try to windmill I probably will.

^I know what you mean, hell i try to dunk 2 hands, and if i miss it then i'll lose balance. gravity is a b!tch. thought Kobe can't defy gravity, he is versatile with his ablities. that much is true. thought it seems out of character for the best dunkers to fall flat on there faces.

[az00m]

Kobe fans are running out of things to compare too jordan. I wonder when they will start comparing dick sizes between the two, thats about all they have left.

Keep sucking his dick!:roll:

[jstern]

Posibly the best dunk ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBtSs_5LEc

[Calabis]

man that leaning dunk is a short mans dunk

steve frances did it all the time. its for people who feel like they have short arms

why did jordan always think this? probly why he has no full windmills

LMAO!!! A Short mans dunk, that Kobe can't do?????? Please show me Steve Francis doing this dunk from that distance in a game.

I didn't realize how silly you were until you called a leaning sideways windmill at the end of a 48 Minute ball game a short mans dunk

Let me guess jumping from this distance is a small mans dunk too

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJDnd_nI4A (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YbJDnd_nI4A)

1:08 Mark Two Hand Windmill (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbwrARr1FC0)

[andgar923]

Let me preface this by saying MJ is a better in game dunker flat out. Also, I disagree about Kobe's 360's being about momentum and other factors. I think sometimes he added a little extra style on his dunks.

But Kobe has done dunks Jordan never did. For example, baseline windmills and baseline reverses.

Baseline Windmill over KG
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92pAVblBui0&feature=related

I don't remember MJ doing a pump reverse off a baseline drive like this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9lA4gVPQaTY

Also never seen MK do the dunks at 2:48(vs. Jazz) and 3:00(vs. 76ers)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFpy-fVfDxU

MJ did lots of dunks Kobe just can't do but Kobe has a very impressive resume of dunks and some of them Jordan just never did. To pretend that didnt happen is disingenuous.

I got a few minutes before I go work.

Here's one at the 1:54 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGLaKfEyRL4&feature=related

He jumps up, gets contested and turns around in mid air with one hand.

[IGOTGAME]

I got a few minutes before I go work.

Here's one at the 1:54 mark http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGLaKfEyRL4&feature=related

He jumps up, gets contested and turns around in mid air with one hand.

sorry but that is in no way comparable to what Kobe did against the Jazz. That is actually standard far. That is more comparable to this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHDtc6Bok0g

[Nevaeh]

Kobe fans are running out of things to compare too jordan. I wonder when they will start comparing dick sizes between the two, thats about all they have left.

Keep sucking his dick!:roll:

With the way NE-1 has been praising Kobe in recent threads, that can be any day now :oldlol:


Originally Posted by Ne 1
There have been names that I have loved to hear

But never has there been a name so dear

To this heart of mine as the name divine;

The precious, precious name of Kobe




Kobe is the sweetest name I know

And he's just the same as his precious name

And that's the reason why I love him so;

Oh, Kobe is the sweetest name I know

There is no name in earth or heaven above
That we should give such honor and such love
As that blessed name, let us all acclaim
That wondrous blessed name of Kobe.

And someday I shall see him face to face
To thank and praise Him for His wondrous grace
Which He gave to me when He made me free;
The blessed Son of God called Kobe.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=207179



I won't derail the thread though. Kobe did his thing, he just fell down a lot while he did it.

[GiveItToBurrito]

MJ. Crazy thing too is that Kobe's been in the NBA for a lot more of his 20s. Just imagine the dunks MJ would have had if he'd come into the NBA straight out of high school and then not retired.

[BallsOut]

Does anyone what the song in the video is? Will rep :lol

[inclinerator]

jordan is way better athletically, but kobe has better ingame dunks

[Eat Like A Bosh]

MJ was more athletic than Kobe, has a higher vertical, as well as bigger hands.
So MJ had the advantage athletically wise, but Kobe had more creativity. Look at his Baseline windmill dunks.
Jordan does have a longer hangtime.

[Calabis]

MJ was more athletic than Kobe, has a higher vertical, as well as bigger hands.
So MJ had the advantage athletically wise, but Kobe had more creativity. Look at his Baseline windmill dunks.
Jordan does have a longer hangtime.

Kobe more creativity??? Wow....last time I checked Nique and Kemp were doing these dunks long before Kobe.....dammit, my bad fellas, forgot we are on ISH, Kobe is the inventor and best at everything

Kemp (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQeMhYJe5JA&feature=related) 2:04 mark

[ShaqAttack3234]

Nice mix, Griff.

Jordan's dunks look smoother, but as others have said, Kobe's are more creative. Can't go wrong with either.


I think what you meant to say was Kobe made dunking look hard. That's because his hands are tiny as **** and his vertical leap is mediocre.

:wtf: Kobe had an impressive vertical. It wouldn't surprise me if his vert was 40 inches back in 2003, and still probably 37-38 in 2008.

[ThickassGlasses]

Dunking on/through 3 people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Doing a 360.

[Doranku]

Jordan. Kobe was probably a more creative dunker, but Jordan didn't have to be. Dude would just sky over people and mash one right in their grill. The way he used his athleticism was just remarkable at times, especially in his early years.

[Bandito]

MJ is the better dunker and is not even close.

[jstern]

Another way to look at it is that Kobe can't do all of the dunks that Jordan did, the ones that required that extra athleticism, while Jordan could do every dunk that Kobe has ever done. Just because Jordan chose or was disinterested in doing a 360 doesn't mean that he couldn't do it. (And he's done it in practice.)

Also, on a side note, 360s are extremely overrated. They really are not that difficult, unless you're doing a reverse 360. In fact, if you can dunk than you automatically can do 360. The footwork required for it gives a person so much balance. The ball under the leg dunk also doesn't require a lot of athleticism, though I would consider it a little harder than the 360, because of the balance.

Jordan wins this by a lot in my opinion, especially since I judge more by athleticism.

And if we want to talk about creativity, Kobe doesn't have a dunk that other people hadn't done before, while Jordan always tried to like move his body and the ball while he was in the air, to take advantage of his hang time, and that's just more creative. Jordan's were more original, while Kobe was just emulating dunks done before. Even that Jordan practice 360, when you see it in slow motion, the way he tries to move his body just made it a very original 360 dunk. When I 1st saw it was like whatever, but when I saw it in slow motion, I noticed that Jordan probably on purpose tries to do random body movement simply for the slow motion replays. In my opinion.

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtn5qhR9cvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJniT1KGeE&t=2m02s

Are you guys blind? I mean seriously?

[YAWN]

Jordans dunks look very smooth, and he was able to take lots of contact without the ball ever being affected (kung fu grip with his huge hands)..

But all things considered, Kobe's dunks look more impressive.

[Batz]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtn5qhR9cvU

holy **** that's new one

[branslowski]

Kobe banging on Ewing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8MKiFQCqQA&feature=related)

:oldlol:

[branslowski]

Kobe Banging on Hakeem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9C8wX8mF80&feature=related)

:oldlol:

[nightprowler10]

Kobe Banging on Hakeem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9C8wX8mF80&feature=related)

:oldlol:

I pick MJ over Kobe in this category, but its not by much, as Kobe is a very, very good in game dunker. But that has to be the worst video posted in this thread in Kobe's support. Hakeem had his back turned on him!

[eliteballer]

Kobe dunks on Jordan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ago8kTAr7JU

[Calabis]

Kobe dunks on Jordan:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ago8kTAr7JU

Isn't that the same game when Jordan pumps the ball over Kobe's head, goes by him and dunks.....a 35 years old?

[Calabis]

Kobe Banging on Hakeem (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V9C8wX8mF80&feature=related)

:oldlol:

LOL he held onto the rim with his other hand....shit was funny though

[branslowski]

I pick MJ over Kobe in this category, but its not by much, as Kobe is a very, very good in game dunker. But that has to be the worst video posted in this thread in Kobe's support. Hakeem had his back turned on him!

Not a big support, just enjoying these moments...I do think Kobe has dunked on more Legends, All-Star, Great players than Jordan though...

Kobe Bangs on Steve Fracis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp_EPwPA-4I&feature=related)

:oldlol:

[jstern]

Not a big support, just enjoying these moments...I do think Kobe has dunked on more Legends, All-Star, Great players than Jordan though...

Kobe Bangs on Steve Fracis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xp_EPwPA-4I&feature=related)

:oldlol:
How old are you? It's not about what you think, it's about reality.

[Harison]

Not sure if OP serious :rolleyes:

[Lebron23]

Prime Kobe Bryant is a good in game dunker, but Prime Jordan is the 2nd greatest in game dunker after Prime Vince Carter.

[gengiskhan]

jordan is way better athletically, but kobe has better ingame dunks

another retarded comment.

Jordan is just superior dunker to Kobe.

Infact, MJ is known for his ingame dunks & they can only be rivaled by Carter. MJ was way too creative & had some extreme facials on HOF centers.

Kobe is the UNC college version of MJ in terms of dunks. MJ is real Pro.

[gengiskhan]

Prime Kobe Bryant is a good in game dunker, but Prime Jordan is the 2nd greatest in game dunker after Prime Vince Carter.

agreed.

Prime Kobe is a good dunker. decent. nothing Dr. J'ish or Carter'ish.

Prime MJ, whooooooh. cradles, leaner windmills, one handed tomahawks, kiss the rim, free throw line, double clutch reverses!!!. only can be rivaled by Prime carter.

[gengiskhan]

sorry but that is in no way comparable to what Kobe did against the Jazz. That is actually standard far. That is more comparable to this...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHDtc6Bok0g

MJ did this as rookie!!! against Knicks in much more traffic. Hell you talking about. Its in his "come fly with me" video

[gengiskhan]

JORDAN IS 10 TIMES BETTER THAN KOBE'S
KOBE's DUNK NEVER AMAZED ME :banana:

You're right. same here.

Kobe's dunks are good. MJs dunks were truly great, an art form. Kobe's dunks are like lebron's. nothing great but makes a highlights.

MJ's dunks are sick. pure dynamite, like carters. Like that "cloth lined" dunk down the middle against Cavs in 1991. One of the best in game dunks ever imagined.

[Leviathon1121]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGLaKfEyRL4&feature=related

Look where Jordan takes off from, on two legs no less, at 2:35, good god...

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtn5qhR9cvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJniT1KGeE&t=2m02s

Again...

Are.You.People.Blind.

[G-Funk]

Jordan was but that doesn't mean Kobe wasn't great. Not that far apart as the typical Kobe haters are making it out to be. Both r better game dunkers than LBJ

[Leviathon1121]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtn5qhR9cvU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJniT1KGeE&t=2m02s

Again...

Are.You.People.Blind.

No, honestly, I only had to watch this one,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGLaKfEyRL4&feature=related

One video of mostly RARE plays shows Jordan's ability to rise up and in multiple cases in this video, dunk on more then one person. That IMO is far more impressive then anything Bryant brings to the table.

Nothing you posted is nearly as impressive, so maybe you are the one who is blind?

[G-Funk]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oXTgBhe3-o&feature=related

Kobe 1 leg(left) windmill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jrw4Zb7d9ZY&feature=related



Posibly the best dunk ever

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BBtSs_5LEc

SICK!

[gengiskhan]

Why Kobe can never be a great ingame dunker!!!

MJ can cuff the ball. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ can palm the ball. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ can is a leaper. Vince can. Kobe cannot (kobe stretches his back more than he leaps)

MJ can dunk in extreme traffic. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ can dunk LEFT handed with more style & grace. Vince cannot. Kobe cannot.


MJ & Vince. great dunkers. Kobe a good dunker ala Lebron.

[G-Funk]

Why Kobe can never be a great ingame dunker!!!

MJ can cuff the ball. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ can palm the ball. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ can is a leaper. Vince can. Kobe cannot (kobe stretches his back more than he leaps)

MJ can dunk in extreme traffic. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ & vince. great dunkers. Kobe a good dunker ala Lebron.
:oldlol:

[jstern]

I should probably post this, even though it wasn't in an NBA game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caNVWoHLejE

[gengiskhan]

Kobe's baseline windmills > any of Jordan's dunks

moron

Kobe's baseline "up & under" dunk is not a real full windmill. He uses the rim to protect the dunk from getting blocked. his tiny hands could easily loose the ball. in case, kobetards didnt realise that.

Besides, kobe doing more after dunk flip flops cartwheel on floor gets kobetards off just for the sake of showing off.

thats why kobe can never reach Vince & MJ's creativity in ingame dunking.

[bstickq1]

moron

Kobe's baseline "up & under" dunk is not a real full windmill. He uses the rim to protect the dunk from getting blocked. his tiny hands could easily loose the ball. in case, kobetards didnt realise that.

Besides, kobe doing more after dunk flip flops cartwheel on floor gets kobetards off just for the sake of showing off.

thats why kobe can never reach Vince & MJ's creativity in ingame dunking.

Why Kobe can never be a great ingame dunker!!!

MJ can cuff the ball. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ can palm the ball. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ can is a leaper. Vince can. Kobe cannot (kobe stretches his back more than he leaps)

MJ can dunk in extreme traffic. Vince can. Kobe cannot.

MJ can dunk LEFT handed with more style & grace. Vince cannot. Kobe cannot.


MJ & Vince. great dunkers. Kobe a good dunker ala Lebron.

Baseline full windmill by Kobe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwNOqRSvFuM

Smooth left handed dunk by Kobe.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2KQd_GWV93k

He's even posterized Duncan left handed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=He6E5DUJ5bM

Extreme traffic
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bjf5HhCYqe8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nAKGbrqjzY4#t=0m20s

Facial on D Rob.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnhjlEZdwo

Cant' jump like MJ, but he could get up there, even a few years ago
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGdTrS5bSxk#t=0m32s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7enXm0olC5c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPOE8uAjrXU#t=0m30s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOLtTNTwX0

Vince like arm extension on this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-tFVOTprC_M

[d.bball.guy]

Another Kobe vs Jordan thread. Can it be Jordan=Kobe in game dunking?

[apesta]

i think both of them are equal. Their dunks are different. Jordan's dunk are more powerful and in your face most of the time. Kobe has more creativity. But i honestly think the two plays in two different era so its hard to compare. I think if Jordan plays in todays era of basketball, he will definitely be able to pull off windmill and 360 dunks too.

[StarJordan]

All you gotta do is compare Jordan's FT line dunk vs Kobe. Jordan shits on Kobe as a dunker and twice on sundays.

In game creativity? Is there a single Kobe dunk so famous as this for creatively smashing one home against Ewing and entire NY squad?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxG6F8qKsoQ

[andgar923]

All you gotta do is compare Jordan's FT line dunk vs Kobe. Jordan shits on Kobe as a dunker and twice on sundays.

In game creativity? Is there a single Kobe dunk so famous as this for creatively smashing one home?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxG6F8qKsoQ

The thing that I notice about almost all of Kobe's dunks, is that he's just getting above the rim.

Mj on the other hand, has plenty of dunks in which he's still rising and is way above the rim, at times he's still ascending as he dunks, even has to duck his head so he won't hit it on the rim.

That dunk on Ewing is a perfect example of MJ still rising, and getting more than just getting above the rim.

[StarJordan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caNVWoHLejE

whoa....this is not a dunk by Jordan, this is a felony!

[comerb]

I think Jordan was the better dunker in the aspect that he pulled off a lot of raw power contact dunks that are just demoralizing to the opposing teams. And he gets so high when he dunks, so hard to defend against. Jordan's dunks elicit a "Damn!"

But I do like watching a clip of Kobe's dunks more. He adds a lot of flare to it, and I've always liked the reverse jams he tends to favor. Kobe's dunks elicit more of a "Wow!"

[andgar923]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzzNa6Fzcr8&feature=related

Thread/

[MavsPoke]

kids on here that didnt get to see kobe play

I stopped reading here.

:facepalm

[O BaByShaQ]

This is incomparable, in Michael's era of ball any guards that came into the paint were annihilated by big men and it wasn't a foul vs current era of any big man playing physical defense on a guard = foul

[LA_Showtime]

Jordan. Kobe's no slouch, though.

[PurpleChuck]

Jordan. Kobe's no slouch, though.
:cheers: :applause: :cheers: :applause: :cheers:

[KG5MVP]

kobe's dunks are more exciting than jordan dunks, and I am a jordan homer/kobe hater

[andgar923]

MJ avoiding damn near an entire team with a double pump, gliding to the rim, while somehow shifting sideways in mid air.... and he didn't take off from 2 feet away either:

(at the 4:02 mark)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SGLaKfEyRL4&feature=related

In that same vid, we see MJ dunk on two and three challenging defenders, they weren't just in the area, they actually attempted to block him.

We see various dunks on MJ jumping on people's backs.

MJ jumping from one side of the lane (almost outside of the paint in some), gliding across traffic and dunking on defender's faces.

One to note.... at the 7:27 mark, he takes off gets hit hard, but pumps it with 'one' hand and tomahawks it on the defender's face.

Again... 8:18 mark, he jumps gets hit so hard that he's turned sideways and still manages to dunk hard.

I'm sure that at the 9:30 mark, some of you Kobe fans would be saying that's a windmill tomahawk dunk if it was Kobe.

And of course that last dunk at 10:35....dude is flying, still rising up even tho he gets hit.

[NBASTATMAN]

All i see here is one guy opening a thread and asking who is better in-game dunker Kobe or MJ, and saying its Kobe and its not even close with 10 of his troll accounts

:cheers: :applause: :applause:

REP THIS BOY

Both had great dunks but VC is by far the best I have ever seen as far as creativity... Mj probably the best at going over guys.. I wrote over guys not dunking around them... Right over them.. Mostly cuz he had the advantage of huge hands.. Kobe more creative cuz he had to be.. Less hops and no advantage with hands..

[NBASTATMAN]

Kobe's baseline windmills > any of Jordan's dunks


GREAT DUNK.. But I take mj over Pat EWING after suckering starks and oakley.. Three great defenders there with MJ taking one full step and going right over Ewing.. Kobe's best was vs KG ,I believe in the playoffs.. He went by a player and did by far his nastiest dunk ever..

[gengiskhan]

Enjoy 1992 MJ dunking on the whole Miami Heat team in the playoffs after playing full season. this one dunk alone is better than any kobe dunk ever done or kobe ever dreamt of in his wet MJ dreams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CE2hU-OaIo


i think both of them are equal. Their dunks are different. Jordan's dunk are more powerful and in your face most of the time. Kobe has more creativity. But i honestly think the two plays in two different era so its hard to compare. I think if Jordan plays in todays era of basketball, he will definitely be able to pull off windmill and 360 dunks too.

:roll:
:roll:
:roll:

Where is kobe cuffing the Ball like MJ in the game dunk?

Where is kobe cradling the ball like MJ in the game dunk?

Where is Kobe dunking on the whole team like MJ in the game dunk?

Where is Kobe flying from just inside free throw line like MJ in the game dunk?

Where is Kobe posterising the whole team in the playoffs like MJ in the game dunk?

& some 2 yrs old morons say kobe is more creative dunker. :roll:

Kobe is a good dunker. MJ is an all time great in game dunker only rivaled by Vince & Dr. J.

some retards need to get their heads straight.

[Gotterdammerung]

This griffmoney idiot is the biggest kobe ******ger ever. His post always are dicussions like Kobe vs Lebron, Kobe vs Jordan, Kobe vs everyone :facepalm
Indeed. Dude is gonna suffer a horrible slide to irrelevance when Kobe declines to a has-been. Whatever happened to the God of all Kobe homers, Kobe 24? Betcha the type turns into someone else's homer overnight. :facepalm

[Calabis]

This is incomparable, in Michael's era of ball any guards that came into the paint were annihilated by big men and it wasn't a foul vs current era of any big man playing physical defense on a guard = foul

I mentioned this already its all but ignored, again until I see Kobe jump from this distance and do this shit right here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nb7qea2hRo) or this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsqLtuyCvYY)

Only guys I would say were better in my time Nique, Kemp and Carter

[griffmoney1784]

Indeed. Dude is gonna suffer a horrible slide to irrelevance when Kobe declines to a has-been. Whatever happened to the God of all Kobe homers, Kobe 24? Betcha the type turns into someone else's homer overnight. :facepalm

by the time kobes 36 years old and retiring

il be 30 years old. and have a family to take care of

so im hoping kobe ends his career at around that time so my wife doesnt leave me for liking basketball more than her

too bad most of these jordan fans on here found lebron as their second chance at life. :roll:

[StarJordan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caNVWoHLejE

the other thing is how cool and in control mj remains after shattering the entire backboard on top of the defenders....almost like nothing happened while the defenders are trying to escape in panic (*** i would too!)....this is crazy

[Calabis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwiRSo_1ujw&feature=related

To the guy who thinks KObe gets up just as high as MJ please, he's even leaning the opposite way he jumped

[SinJackal]

You think he could dunk as much in todays game? Lebron is twice the athlete Jordan is and many guards that could match MJ yet no one can dunk as much he could? So whoever dunks the most is the best dunker?

#1: This thread is about Kobe and Jordan, not LeBron. I didn't mention LeBron, so I'm not sure why you're arguing with me about him.

#2: LeBron was NOT "twice as athletic" as Jordan. Watch some tape kid. I also never said "nobody could dunk as much as he could", you're making that up. You're being a huge fanboy who's getting offended at shit that isn't even being said. :hammerhead:

And #3: Yes, Jordan jumping over big ass 7 footers and smashing their faces in with a dunk pretty much any time he wanted is much more impressive in game dunking to me than doing a flashy dunk every now and then.

And lastly, Jordan would dunk way more in today's game than he did before. If you really think he'd get in the paint *LESS* now than before, you must have no idea what rule changes occured. Quick history lesson: Handchecking made it a little harder to get past your defender on the perimeter. The league had taller centers. Those big ass centers were allowed to stand under the basket to defend easy dunks and layups and not get whistled for 3 second violations.

It's almost as if you intentionally made the dumbest arguments possible to make yourself look like a dumbass there. :facepalm

[jstern]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwiRSo_1ujw&feature=related

To the guy who thinks KObe gets up just as high as MJ please, he's even leaning the opposite way he jumped
I wasn't going to click on your link, but wow.

[andgar923]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwiRSo_1ujw&feature=related

To the guy who thinks KObe gets up just as high as MJ please, he's even leaning the opposite way he jumped

Once again, a dunk that Kobe could never do.

A) he can't jump as high
B) he can't jump from that distance
C) he can't palm the ball in the air with one hand
D) he can't do all of those things at the same time

As for 'in game' dunks, people are primarily basing this on preference based on 'style' instead of the actual ability.

Most of Mj's dunks compared to Kobe's have a higher degree of difficulty when we watch closer at them. He usually takes off from a farther distance, he usually tends to jump higher, off different feet, off different angles, jumping without re-gathering himself coming off a dribble, etc.etc.

That isn't to say that Kobe's hasn't had some very impressive dunks, but he doesn't have as many as MJ.

[IGOTGAME]

Once again, a dunk that Kobe could never do.

A) he can't jump as high
B) he can't jump from that distance
C) he can't palm the ball in the air with one hand
D) he can't do all of those things at the same time

As for 'in game' dunks, people are primarily basing this on preference based on 'style' instead of the actual ability.

Most of Mj's dunks compared to Kobe's have a higher degree of difficulty when we watch closer at them. He usually takes off from a farther distance, he usually tends to jump higher, off different feet, off different angles, jumping without re-gathering himself coming off a dribble, etc.etc.

That isn't to say that Kobe's hasn't had some very impressive dunks, but he doesn't have as many as MJ.

"A" and "B" are essentially the same thing. Jordan is a better in game dunker but Kobe has dont some things Jordan didnt do.

Kobe loved to put on a show, he played in LA for gods sake. Give the guy his due.

[andgar923]

"A" and "B" are essentially the same thing. Jordan is a better in game dunker but Kobe has dont some things Jordan didnt do.

Kobe loved to put on a show, he played in LA for gods sake. Give the guy his due.

Who says I didn't give him credit?

LOLLL

[andgar923]

"A" and "B" are essentially the same thing. Jordan is a better in game dunker but Kobe has dont some things Jordan didnt do.

Kobe loved to put on a show, he played in LA for gods sake. Give the guy his due.
Also, the dunks that kobe's done that Mj hasn't, wasn't because MJ couldn't do athletically. He just wasn't put in that position where that type of dunk was the best option for him.

On the flip side, most of the dunks that MJ's done that Kobe hasn't, is due to Kobe's inferior athleticism.

Completely different reasons.

[IGOTGAME]

Who says I didn't give him credit?

LOLLL

you started pulling up dunks and saying they were the same ones that Kobe did...they looked nothing alike.

Its too hard for you to say Kobe did a dunk that MJ never did.

[andgar923]

you started pulling up dunks and saying they were the same ones that Kobe did...they looked nothing alike.

Its too hard for you to say Kobe did a dunk that MJ never did.
such as?

And there has been dunks that Kobe's done that MJ hasn't, such as some of the 360 dunks.

My fav Kobe dunk by far, is the behind the back semi 360 dunk.... THAT was dope.

he's had some other dope ones for sure, but nothing that MJ hasn't done before. Technically most of those dunks are the same, but the style is different and I think that there's where the disagreement stems from.

[andgar923]

Btw....

A and B aren't the same.

Jumping high and jumping from far away are different. There's different body motion involved, different speeds needed, different dribbling and timing,etc.etc. Specially in a game where you need to dribble the ball without having to time yourself.

MJ could catch the ball, take 2 dribbles and jump from a farther distance without trying than most players would trying.

[IGOTGAME]

Btw....

A and B aren't the same.

Jumping high and jumping from far away are different. There's different body motion involved, different speeds needed, different dribbling and timing,etc.etc. Specially in a game where you need to dribble the ball without having to time yourself.

MJ could catch the ball, take 2 dribbles and jump from a farther distance without trying than most players would trying.

but taking two dribbles is pretty much the same as 4. You never really get more than 2 dribbles going towards the rack in a half court set.

And "A" and "B" are strongly correlated. It is a rare occassion when someone who jumps higher can't also dunk from further out then someone. It happens occassionally but it is extremely rare(possible happens with exclusively 2 footed jumpers)...

[andgar923]

but taking two dribbles is pretty much the same as 4. You never really get more than 2 dribbles going towards the rack in a half court set.

And "A" and "B" are strongly correlated. It is a rare occassion when someone who jumps higher can't also dunk from further out then someone. It happens occassionally but it is extremely rare(possible happens with exclusively 2 footed jumpers)...

No, because if you only take two, that means less time to gather yourself for a dunk. Less time to time etc.etc. depending on the distance of course. If you're inside the lane it doesn't really matter since you're already there and the effort needed is less.

And YES I agree that A and B are strongly correlated.

In order to dunk from a far distance, one needs to jump high. But just because one jumps high it doesn't mean they can jump from a farther distance. As I mentioned, the timing and speeds are different.

I know it's semantics and small differences, but they do matter when talking about 'in game' dunking.

[Force]

Silly thread. It's Jordan.

[Johnni Gade]

MJ

[IGOTGAME]

No, because if you only take two, that means less time to gather yourself for a dunk. Less time to time etc.etc. depending on the distance of course. If you're inside the lane it doesn't really matter since you're already there and the effort needed is less.

And YES I agree that A and B are strongly correlated.

In order to dunk from a far distance, one needs to jump high. But just because one jumps high it doesn't mean they can jump from a farther distance. As I mentioned, the timing and speeds are different.

I know it's semantics and small differences, but they do matter when talking about 'in game' dunking.

Kobe's baseline windmill's were two dribbles. Two dribbles can get you from almost half court to the basket. Thats a lot of time to get your steps right.

[andgar923]

Not that Kobe can't do this (although I haven't seen him do this in traffic from that distance yet), but I've seen MJ do this far more than just about any player (including VC) and that's dunking off two or one dribble.

This is important because that extra dribble can be the difference between the defense rotating or dunking.

Here's a perfect example at the 0:16 mark.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYYoMXDg0cg

If MJ takes another dribble, it gives the defense time to react and possibly change MJ's trajectory and shot. But taking just one dribble, it becomes a quicker attack. Not that taking one dribble is all that amazing, but we need to concentrate on the 'distance'. Most players would've needed a full length stride with at least 2 dribbles to take off from that spot. Not that it's a particularly far spot to take off from if you have more dribbles and have accelerated speed. But jumping from that spot off one dribble coming from almost a standstill is very impressive. It's like comparing somebody jumping far with a full sprint and a standstill.

Go ahead, go outside and take a full sprint and jump as far as you can.
Now take one step and jump as far as you can.

Completely different

[andgar923]

Kobe's baseline windmill's were two dribbles. Two dribbles can get you from almost half court to the basket. Thats a lot of time to get your steps right.

It depends on different things tho.

[Calabis]

Once again, a dunk that Kobe could never do.

A) he can't jump as high
B) he can't jump from that distance
C) he can't palm the ball in the air with one hand
D) he can't do all of those things at the same time

As for 'in game' dunks, people are primarily basing this on preference based on 'style' instead of the actual ability.

Most of Mj's dunks compared to Kobe's have a higher degree of difficulty when we watch closer at them. He usually takes off from a farther distance, he usually tends to jump higher, off different feet, off different angles, jumping without re-gathering himself coming off a dribble, etc.etc.

That isn't to say that Kobe's hasn't had some very impressive dunks, but he doesn't have as many as MJ.


I think you mentioned this in a earlier post about how effortless Jordan made it look, Vince Carter states the same thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKRADgAEt_c&feature=related). Also I don't get how Kobe is more creative, Jordan had signature dunks, he was doing things no one was doing yet....Kobe's everyones done them.......I think Kobe has some dunks that are better than MJ's due to the situation, but as far as a career, Jordan is better

[KenneBell]

They're pretty close. MJ for the hangtime, Kobe for the reverses, 360's, etc.

Vince probably craps on them both though.

[andgar923]

I think you mentioned this in a earlier post about how effortless Jordan made it look, Vince Carter states the same thing (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKRADgAEt_c&feature=related). Also I don't get how Kobe is more creative, Jordan had signature dunks, he was doing things no one was doing yet....Kobe's everyones done them.......I think Kobe has some dunks that are better than MJ's due to the situation, but as far as a career, Jordan is better

VC said it on that clip.

MJ's dunks were harder than they looked (like you mentioned). He just made it seem easy and smooth.

Again... this goes back to what I've been harping on for the last few posts.

Athletically speaking, MJ's dunks are superior for the reasons I mentioned:

Distance, vertical height, coming off a move or dribble, ability to move his body while in the air, ability to rise higher while in the air, ability to move the ball while in the air, etc.etc.

I mean... dude'll jump, get hit while in the air, pump the ball with one hand and still dunk it hard.... not too many people do that, specially people his size.

[Leviathon1121]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwiRSo_1ujw&feature=related

To the guy who thinks KObe gets up just as high as MJ please, he's even leaning the opposite way he jumped

Just wow at this, anyone else notice he is on his way DOWN by the time he dunks it, and he still puts his elbow into the cylinder...amazing.

This thread turned into a fantastic thread simply because we have had people post some rare, or forgotten Jordan dunks that were simply unbelievable.

[Hulk Hogan]

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/02/06/kobes-greatest-hits-vi/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Kobe is the best in-game dunker, look how high he got in these, Jordan never dreamed of getting that high.

/thread

[OmniStrife]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQH2JqQBuI

put together some video of both guys best in game dunks
Why is your YouTube channel pink?? U some kinda ****?

[andgar923]

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2011/02/06/kobes-greatest-hits-vi/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

Kobe is the best in-game dunker, look how high he got in these, Jordan never dreamed of getting that high.

/thread

Stop it.

In none of those dunks did he get very high.

YES they were dope, but he didn't have to jump very high.

MJ used to duck his head at times.

We've seen MJ's entire elbow over the rim in some occasions, and at times take off from just inside the ft line.

[eliteballer]

LOl @ andgar aka the guy who said Rik Smits was better than Dwight Howard:lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJniT1KGeE&t=2m02s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLyM3tE23cI

^Those two dunks ALONE are better than anything Jordan did in a game, ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtn5qhR9cvU


Are.You.People.Blind.

[Hulk Hogan]

Stop it.

In none of those dunks did he get very high.

YES they were dope, but he didn't have to jump very high.

MJ used to duck his head at times.

We've seen MJ's entire elbow over the rim in some occasions, and at times take off from just inside the ft line.

You didn't see the alley oop at 1:10?
HIS ELBOW was above the rim.

[ginobli2311]

LOl @ andgar aka the guy who said Rik Smits was better than Dwight Howard:lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=coJniT1KGeE&t=2m02s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLyM3tE23cI

^Those two dunks ALONE are better than anything Jordan did in a game, ever.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtn5qhR9cvU


Are.You.People.Blind.

LOL

those top 2 dunks wouldn't even rank in jordan's top 20 in my opinion.

[DonCorleone]

Kobe Bryant is the better in game dunker.

[BEAST Griffin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxG6F8qKsoQ

>

Any Kobe dunk

[Replay32]

Kobe was the more creative in game dunker IMO. But Jordan dunked on more players. I'm not talking about players standing grounded with their hands up. Jordan dunked on players (including centers) with full contact and just powering through them.

Kobe has more creative in game dunks, but Jordan was a stronger dunker who could finisher with more contact more often. Kobe's dunks are sweet but his creativity allowed him to avoid major contact from the defender more often than not. Especially on the baseline reverse dunks.

[ballerz]

jordan but just.

[falc39]

Kobe was the more creative in game dunker IMO. But Jordan dunked on more players. I'm not talking about players standing grounded with their hands up. Jordan dunked on players (including centers) with full contact and just powering through them.

Kobe has more creative in game dunks, but Jordan was a stronger dunker who could finisher with more contact more often. Kobe's dunks are sweet but his creativity allowed him to avoid major contact from the defender more often than not. Especially on the baseline reverse dunks.

this.

it's funny watching PF and Centers jump up and make good attempts at blocking jordan but they all end up on the floor at the end of the play. jordan dunks have a ton of power for someone his size.

[griffmoney1784]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxG6F8qKsoQ

>

Any Kobe dunk

how was this special in any way shape or form

its just a regular dunk

jordan is easly the most overrated dunker in nba history

[MiseryCityTexas]

jordan had some of the best dunk contests in nba histroy, while kobe was part of one of the wackest dunk contests in nba history. that should tell you something right there.

[boozehound]

me. great video. love that song too.

Both are impressive. i give the advantage to jordan for the better hangtime, elevation and ball carrying with his big hands.

If ya want a better case for kobe against jordon make a kobe vs mj video regarding the jumper
yeah, some of those jordan dunks looked like he was on the moon. Its certainly not as one sided an argument as some of these posts make it seem, but I gotta go with Jordan

[boozehound]

how was this special in any way shape or form

its just a regular dunk

jordan is easly the most overrated dunker in nba history
ah, so, par the course on ISH, the OP has an agenda behind both the thread and video he made.

[beermonsteroo]

Jordan was a way better in traffic dunker then Kobe.
Jordan simply was a lot quicker and hence could attack the rim more aggresively.
On fast breaks he had dunks which only he can do.

[Da_Realist]

Jordan was a way better in traffic dunker then Kobe.
Jordan simply was a lot quicker and hence could attack the rim more aggresively.
On fast breaks he had dunks which only he can do.

Jordan dunks on two Lakers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPDmFh0h1tg)!

[brownmamba00]

Kobe by a hair. And lol @ Kobe not dunking in traffic
Jordan dunked on people , Kobe on the state of Florida :lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IyCD1B-9js

[Da_Realist]

***SPEED ALERT!!!***

Kobe could never ever ever in his life pull off this dunk

Michael Jordan Posterizes Larry Nance! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4KpOfH9y98)

Kobe looks SSSSSLLLLLLOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW by comparison. Look at Kobe's version --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwNOqRSvFuM

[eliteballer]

***SPEED ALERT!!!***

Kobe could never ever ever in his life pull off this dunk

Michael Jordan Posterizes Larry Nance! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4KpOfH9y98)

Kobe looks SSSSSLLLLLLOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWW by comparison. Look at Kobe's version --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwNOqRSvFuM


You dope, Kobe was further from the basket and WINDMILLED IT...and if you didnt notice on the replay Kobe's leg was bandaged up, he was injured. That comparison just shows WHY Kobe is a better dunker

[Da_Realist]

You dope, Kobe was further from the basket and WINDMILLED IT...and if you didnt notice on the replay Kobe's leg was bandaged up, he was injured. That comparison just shows WHY Kobe is a better dunker

Kobe windmilled it because he was directly under the basket and there was no one there to contest the dunk. MJ was on the other side of the basket and had to extend his arm against the inertia of his body and dunk over 6'10" Larry Nance.

And that's totally ignoring the vast difference in SPEED between the 2 moves.

[ukplayer4]

kobe was a great in game dunker, one of the best ever, mj i think had far more dunks in traffic and on people but i guess its a closer debate than who is the better player, there was that one year kobe had so many great dunks, think it was 2003-04. BUT......the idea that kobe is a better game dunker than vince:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: only kobe fans could even discuss this....

[Da_Realist]

MJ dunking on the Knicks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MC4On7E088#t=4m05s)

[Da_Realist]

Jordan dunks over Tree Rollins (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6xeC3-syfc)

[Juges8932]

I consider MJ the best in-game dunker that I have SEEN. However, I definitely think Kobe is underrated when it comes to this aspect.

What I think makes both of them so great is their body control. They are able to contort there bodies several different ways in one jump when going to or around the rim. Kobe's hops were obviously not on MJ's level, but he could still get up pretty good (better than I think most people make it seem). Kobe has a ton of highlights where he slams one-handed oops (some that most couldn't even get- like the ones against the backboard) when he's flying towards the backboard (and not just going straight up from a standstill).

[moe94]

^What makes Jordan a better in-game dunker than Carter or even Kemp and Nique? It's subjective to an extent but I really don't see his case.

[andgar923]

how was this special in any way shape or form

its just a regular dunk

jordan is easly the most overrated dunker in nba history

This dunk is more famous due to the entire play, moreso than the actual dunk itself.

That move was nasty, he had to gather himself by tip toeing the baseline and dunk it right over Ewing. But he dunked over Ewing before.... what made this one more special, was how he kept rising, and rising, and rising over Ewing. Oh... and it was in the playoffs.

There's been many dunks in which MJ keeps rising over his defender while in the air. His entire elbow was damn near above the rim when he dunked it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmxJvWW5Ksw

[HighFlyer23]

Kobe IMO

[KG5MVP]

in game dunking is the only area where kobe is better than MJ. MJ's dunks just don't look that ferocious

[rodman91]

I always prefer Jordan,Dr.J,Drexler type dunks.(all of them had huge hands and flying over people) Probably vince was best dunker though.His game dunks looked like from competition.Kobe had great dunks too.

[ThaRegul8r]

Oh look! Another Kobe vs. Jordan comparison thread...

[rodman91]

Oh look! Another Kobe vs. Jordan comparison thread...
http://www.gump4heisman.com/.a/6a00e0097f2241883300e5535453258833-320pi

[pauk]

http://mindfreakx.com/anuncios/Michael_Jordan.gif

http://www.gixxer.com/forums/images/smilies/gtfo.gif

yes thats in dunk contest... but he did it in game to... and on people...

[pauk]

http://www.gump4heisman.com/.a/6a00e0097f2241883300e5535453258833-320pi

so basically kobe is the unlucky poor bastard that has to be humiliated over and over by jordan.... maybe oscar robertson vs jordan would make more sense... putting anybody else up against jordan would be pretty one sided....

[Da_Realist]

Thanks to ShaqAttack3234

Nasty dunk by Jordan on Barkley in the 1990 playoffs (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdoTJgEIJB4&feature=related#t=7m34s)

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=215290

[Da_Realist]

And1 vs the Pistons

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlFpaltgYlA#t=0m46s

There was no one to dunk on cause the move was so quick it caught everyone off guard.

[Da_Realist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Re5bNrv1I#t=2m19s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5Re5bNrv1I

[Round Mound]

:facepalm

Who was more athletic? Jordan
Who was stronger? Jordan
Who was faster? Jordan
Who was quicker footed? Jordan
Who had more hang time? Jordan
Who had a higher vertical leap? Jordan
Who had bigger hands? Jordan

End Thred

[The_Yearning]

Kobe is the better in game dunker. I have never seen Jordan contort his body to finish a dunk off like Kobe does. Jordans dunks are much more power than skill.

[O BaByShaQ]

Kobe and its not close:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

dear god you have to be kidding me... :banghead: if u are serious u must be 13

[DRose1899]

dear god you have to be kidding me... :banghead: if u are serious u must be 13
Like that is a knock to Jordan. :facepalm
Andre Iguodala is better dunker than those two, so?

[Ikill]

Kobe is the better in game dunker. I have never seen Jordan contort his body to finish a dunk off like Kobe does. Jordans dunks are much more power than skill.
It doesn't matter if Kobes dunks require more skill its all about whose dunks look better and that Jordan

[Ikill]

I've never been impressed with Kobes dunks there just not enough power and athleticism

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Vince Carter.

[Christofire]

Kobe and its not close:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs
while jordan was more athletic kobe did better in game dunks Kobe's reverse dunks going baseline were sick. Jordan didnt really impress with his in game dunks

[Deltron3030]

kobe's a better in game dunker....if you're a girl and like "pretty" 360 dunks that aren't too hard to pull off. Jordan if you like difficult dunks that no one can pull off

This. Jordan pulled off some pretty ridiculous stuff around the rim. To be honest, Jordan's insane layups and shots around the hoop are more impressive than the best Kobe and MJ dunks.

[HighFlyer23]

I've never been impressed with Kobes dunks there just not enough power and athleticism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnhjlEZdwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mwL8MgIDw4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPtc3vKE9W4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOLtTNTwX0&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BJIj00rSs

Young Kobe was AS athletic as Jordan

[Da_Realist]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnhjlEZdwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mwL8MgIDw4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPtc3vKE9W4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOLtTNTwX0&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BJIj00rSs

Young Kobe was AS athletic as Jordan

Young Kobe was a lot of things, but being as athletic as Jordan was not one of them

[HighFlyer23]

Young Kobe was a lot of things, but being as athletic as Jordan was not one of them

just as quick and fast

@ 3:42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Eq0hht2Rg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5evFqBdichc

and the other videos proved he had just as much power going to the bucket as Jordan

[whoartthou]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9qnhjlEZdwo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mwL8MgIDw4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPtc3vKE9W4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkOLtTNTwX0&feature=channel_video_title

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8BJIj00rSs

Young Kobe was AS athletic as Jordan
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Da_Realist]

just as quick and fast

@ 3:42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Eq0hht2Rg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5evFqBdichc

and the other videos proved he had just as much power going to the bucket as Jordan

:facepalm Kobe is/was NOT as athletic as Jordan was.

[Christofire]

:facepalm Kobe is/was NOT as athletic as Jordan was.

i was never overly impressed with Jordan nor Kobe's power in regards to dunking. I give Kobe the edge because i think his reverse dunks going baseline were better Jordan's in game dunks. Jordan was never a power dunker i don't know where people get these tainted memories of jordan from

[whoartthou]

i was never overly impressed with Jordan nor Kobe's power in regards to dunking. I give Kobe the edge because i think his reverse dunks going baseline were better Jordan's in game dunks. Jordan was never a power dunker i don't know where people get these tainted memories of jordan from

pretty soon kobe stans gonna be calling kobe more clutch than jordan.
:facepalm

[Calabis]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWQH2JqQBuI

put together some video of both guys best in game dunks

Great vid, although you left out MJ's two best open court dunks imo.....Kobe has some dunks that are better than a lot of MJ's, but this shit right here is ridiculous to me...the distance that is, for this dunk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Nb7qea2hRo

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OsqLtuyCvYY

and u can't leave out this one

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sS-N49j5Oos


The reason I say Jordan, is because he was a innovator, Kobes have all been done

[Da_Realist]

just as quick and fast

@ 3:42

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Eq0hht2Rg


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5evFqBdichc

and the other videos proved he had just as much power going to the bucket as Jordan

World Class speed down the court. Would have been even faster if he didn't need to weave through 2 defenders near the very end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MC4On7E088&t=2m18s

[Disaprine]

jordan

[Leviathon1121]

Sorry guys, the Ewing dunk actually never happened because Jordan's dunks have no power. And that replay showing Jordan's insane speed was faked like the moon landing cause Kobe is faster and more athletic.

[Da_Realist]

Sorry guys, the Ewing dunk actually never happened because Jordan's dunks have no power. And that replay showing Jordan's insane speed was faked like the moon landing cause Kobe is faster and more athletic.

:oldlol: That must be it cause I can't explain it any other way

[eliteballer]

World Class speed down the court. Would have been even faster if he didn't need to weave through 2 defenders near the very end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MC4On7E088&t=2m18s

:oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs&t=7m25s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs&t=3m37s

[Da_Realist]

:oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs&t=7m25s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs&t=3m37s

No separation. Christie was right there with Kobe all the way.

Look at this again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MC4On7E088&t=2m18s

Where is Ewing at the end of that clip?

[Bandito]

No separation. Christie was right there with Kobe all the way.

Look at this again. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MC4On7E088&t=2m18s

Where is Ewing at the end of that clip?
Below Jordan's nuts?

[HighFlyer23]

World Class speed down the court. Would have been even faster if he didn't need to weave through 2 defenders near the very end

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7MC4On7E088&t=2m18s


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Eq0hht2Rg&t=3m42s

I dunno man I consider Jordan the better athlete but Kobe is not that far off. Serious acceleration from both.

I still don't know a Jordan dunk as crazy as this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mwL8MgIDw4

[OldSchoolBBall]

Young Kobe was a lot of things, but being as athletic as Jordan was not one of them

The revisionism has reached hysterical levels with these clowns. Kobe as athletic as Jordan...now I've heard it all. :oldlol:



I still don't know a Jordan dunk as crazy as this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mwL8MgIDw4

The SEQUENCE/PLAY was great because of the behind the back move and short hop step and the way it flowed into the dunk, but the dunk itself is nothing special. Jordan has done sideways-facing/spinning dunks several times:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQl90iAqgMo#t-10m10s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDrGTcQVn5c&feature=related#t=4m07s

[D.J.]

The only things Kobe has on MJ are three point shooting and possibly bagging white women. The only person that has a case for being a better in game dunker is Vince Carter.

[eliteballer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

Jordan can't compete with that, and everyone knows it.

[Ikill]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGxX80NHuRs

Jordan can't compete with that, and everyone knows it.
I'm not going to waste my time watching 10 minutes of boring ass Kobe dunks

[plowking]

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[Da_Realist]

Rookie MJ vs Pistons (1985) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RzKo3F1v2b4)

[gengiskhan]

Jordon is the most overrated dunker of all time.

Rookie MJ did in-game cradle dunks

Rookie MJ did in-game nasty facial dunks

Rookie MJ did in-game reverse double clutch dunks

Rookie MJ did in-game horizontal cradle dunk against Clippers his 2nd game.

Rookie MJ is much better dunker in traffic than Kobe ever was, is & will be.

MJ & Kobe should not even be mentioned in same breath when in-game dunking is concern.

Only kobe is overrated. same old 360 wind mills over and over again. Zero creativity.

[Smoke117]

I'm not even sure why this is a discussion? Jordan could palm the ball and had a higher vertical...he was obviously a better in game dunker, Hell Scottie Pippen, Grant Hill, even Shawn Marion were better in game dunkers than Kobe Bryant strictly from the fact that they had more power and were bigger. This is a stupid discussion lol. Kobe in general wouldn't be that far up in a in game dunkers list. In game it's all about getting the dunk in and besides PF or C's the guys that did that best were probably Nique, Erving, Jordan, and Pippen...at least those who were able to get to the basket on their own and do it consistently.

[gengiskhan]

I'm not even sure why this is a discussion? Jordan could palm the ball and had a higher vertical...he was obviously a better in game dunker, Hell Scottie Pippen, Grant Hill, even Shawn Marion were better in game dunkers than Kobe Bryant strictly from the fact that they had more power and were bigger. This is a stupid discussion lol. Kobe in general wouldn't be that far up in a in game dunkers list. In game it's all about getting the dunk in and besides PF or C's the guys that did that best were probably Nique, Erving, Jordan, and Pippen...at least those who were able to get to the basket on their own and do it consistently.

totally agreed.

Kobe should not even be in the conversation just like Wade & Lebron isnt. In game dunking should only be about power, finness, creativity, vertical leap & distance covered. Kobe is weak in all facets. He is a decent dunker nothing more.

But no way in the league of 'Nique, Air, Carter, Dr J. these guys could cup the ball at full speed without even using the other hand. Their power was also incredible. There facials were thorough facials & not like defender is holding ground to take a charge gets posterized.

[Smoke117]

totally agreed.

Kobe should not even be in the conversation just like Wade & Lebron isnt. In game dunking should only be about power, finness, creativity, vertical leap & distance covered. Kobe is weak in all facets. He is a decent dunker nothing more.

But no way in the league of 'Nique, Air, Carter, Dr J. these guys could cup the ball at full speed without even using the other hand. Their power was also incredible. There facials were thorough facials & not like defender is holding ground to take a charge gets posterized.

Oh yeah I forgot Vince...but NO it's not about CREATIVITY OR FINESSE AT ALL...jesus christ, an in game dunk is about actually getting the ball in the basket...you don't get 40 different tries like the dunk contest to pull it off. Besides a fast break creativity and finesse should not even matter. That's basically the biggest reason Pippen is underrated as a dunker...he didn't give a shit about finesse or creativity but basically put the hammer on EVERYONE who tried to stop him. THAT IS HOW AN IN GAME DUNKER SHOULD BE MEASURED...throwing that ball into the rim no matter who is in his way.

[andgar923]

This thread was funny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzzNa6Fzcr8

I mean... I'm sayin'.