Kendrick Perkins traded to Thunder, Jeff Green, Nenad Krstic to Celtics

[BlackWhiteGreen]

:eek: from Woj


Boston has agreed to send Kendrick Perkins to OKC for package that includes Jeff Green, sources tell Y!

Update:

Celtics trade Perkins and Nate Robinson to the Thunder, and the Thunder trades Jeff Green and Nenad Krystic.

In other Celtics trades, Semih Erden and Luke Harangody have gone to the Cavaliers for their 2nd round pick and the Clippers 2012 first (top 10 protected through 2016).

Marquis Daniels has also been traded to the Kings for cash.

[MMM]

this makes no sense

[Rose]

:wtf:

[nbacardDOTnet]

:wtf:
+1

[DuMa]

this shit doesnt make sense. jeff green doesnt help you beat the lakers if u face them in the finals.

[AI3Anthony]

I don't... get it.. why? Why Boston? WHY?

[All Net]

Miami are laughing now...

[LaysUpBricks]

Just saw the Kristic is included also

edit Nate included to go to OKC

[knickscity]

I'm think that Perk may have left after the season, but no way I do this.

[niko]

I feel confused.

[Nets fan 93]

Thunder get Nate and Perkins!!!

[Rose]

Krstic and nate as well...what the ****. This has to be a lie.

[zac]

Wow. I fully expected them to resign him.

[UtahJazzFan88]

Wow, quite possibly the dumbest trade this year. Benefits OKC a lot to me.

[crisoner]

Wow...they like Shaq that much?

Good move for OKC IMO.

[BuGzBuNNy]

Miami are laughing now...
this

[bdreason]

I know it's shocking that Boston would move Perkins mid season... but getting Jeff Green and Nenad Kristic is a good deal. And Perkins is exactly what OKC needed as well.

[DStebb716]

Nate Robinson also to OKC.

[MMM]

Shaq/JO front court wont hold up in the playoffs
kristic is trash to be frank but maybe this opens up the door for Sheed to return

[Rose]

So...uh. The Thunder got better, and C's...got a little worse.

[bdreason]

And the Celtics weren't going to be able to resign Perkins. He was gone after this season.

[Naruto-sama]

Shaqq and JO aree ok to filll in and i doon't think theyy could keeep Perkinss next yeaar?

[The Lake Show24]

oh wow! what the hell? I don't get this one at all. Yeah you guys have shaq now and jermaine but he's your best Centre easily...shocking..

[Reverend Hoops]

Wow. OKC's Big 3 (Durant, Westbrook, Green) is no more.

Jeff Green is much better than Perk.

[ProfessorMurder]

I am very very very surprised... It gives the Celtics some youth though and they were playing well without Perk anyway.

Krstic/Shaq/JO/Semih

Come on back Sheed.

[Clippersfan86]

Damn Thunder are going to go deep in the playoffs this year now.. and maybe win title by next year. Now they have a guy who can bang people up inside and guard the best bigs. Usually Thunder lose because they get killed in the paint... now that won't be the case. Grats to the Thunder FO about being so serious about winning. I hope the Clippers can follow the mold. Supposedly our FO is trying to emulate what the Thunder have done.

[niko]

I like it. Angry defensive minded guy next to Durant? And they can get a 3/4 to replace what Green gave them. Not now but definitely next year.

[chazzy]

OKC just got serious. Damn.

[DStebb716]

Wow. OKC's Big 3 (Durant, Westbrook, Green) is no more.

Jeff Green is much better than Perk.

OKC needed a center, and got a good scorer off the bench in Nate Rob.

[HB40TheNextStar]

Damn. The Thunder are legit now.

[All Net]

Boston have just damaged their chances of winning it all..BADLY

[Reverend Hoops]

I like it. Angry defensive minded guy next to Durant? And they can get a 3/4 to replace what Green gave them. Not now but definitely next year.

Not really. Jeff Green is really underrated. He was their glue guy.

Boston looks a lot less scary.

[ProfessorMurder]

On the bright side, it makes me like OKC even more since Perk is one of my favorites.

Perk/Ibaka next to each other :bowdown:

[Doranku]

Boston trying to make OKC better in hopes that they can take out LA for them? :oldlol:

[dirkdiggler41]

Why is it that Perkins wont be resigned with the celtics and why will OKC do it?

[chazzy]

Westbrook
Sefalosha
Durant
Ibaka
Perkins

They lose spacing but their defense took a hit this year.

Boston will be fine as long as Shaq is healthy.. if not there will be a dropoff.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

lol...Celtics lost their MOJO....they are now not even sure to be in the Finals

3 PEAT....

[DuMa]

nate is involved too? i cant find a source that confirms that

[DeronMillsap]

Thunder just gave themselves at a shot at the WFC.

[Bandito]

Dude this is a great trade for the both of them. The Celts get a great player in Jeff, a player that can score off the bench, and they seriously need it. They also get Kristic (or however you spell that name) who is a solid center. It is true they will give up Perkins but they get instant offense off the bench with Jeff and good enough role player. Also isn't that player solid on D?

[All Net]

Losing Nate hurts too as he has proven to be a goof addition for Boston to give Rondo rest

dumb dumb dumb

[KG215]

I really don't understand this trade and do not like it either.

[Kingwillball]

Opens the Door for the Heat and Bulls.. I mean Green is a solid Player but Perk was a man manning the Middle plus Nate is a spark off the bench. Krstic is OK but a softie..

[MMM]

Boston have just damaged their chances of winning it all..BADLY

I'm not sure about this trade but I wouldn't go that far. Boston did fine without Perk for 3 months. It will be interesting to see how Jeff Green adjusts to coming off the bench though.

[ginobli2311]

Boston have just damaged their chances of winning it all..BADLY

totally agree.

holy shit. its for real according to bucher and broussard.

holy shit. wow. **** me. this kills me celtics bets. no.....ainge.........you bastard.

[Naruto-sama]

Shaq/JO front court wont hold up in the playoffs
kristic is trash to be frank but maybe this opens up the door for Sheed to return

Shaaq willl be fiine and bettter offensee than Perrk as loong as he doessn't get huurt and JO can plaay filler minnutes

[DuMa]

i can only see this being good if KG can turn jeff green into a mini-kg at the 3spot.

[Rose]

Bulls matchup better now. Taj vs Jeff Green. Nice
Bradley will get playing time which is good. C's got some scoring off their bench, which they needed, and I think perk was a little injured again so....maybe that's part of why they traded him. But if the C's aren't healthy come the playoffs....could regret this dearly.

[MMM]

Losing Nate hurts too as he has proven to be a goof addition for Boston to give Rondo rest

dumb dumb dumb

With West back Nate wasn't going to see many mins anyway.

[PJR]

Danny Ainge just gave Miami the Eastern Conference crown.

Why in the world would you want to rely apon the health of Shaq and Jermaine O'Neal going into the post-season? Terrible. :facepalm

Perkins is arguably the best 1-1 post defender in the league, and exceptional on the pick and roll as well.

I know the Celtics lost Marquise Daniels, but Big Depth >>>> Wing depth. Terrible Move in my opinion.

[boozehound]

I know it's shocking that Boston would move Perkins mid season... but getting Jeff Green and Nenad Kristic is a good deal. And Perkins is exactly what OKC needed as well.
isnt green a RFA this offseason? Really, I dont like it. Kristic is not great and now they have a limited frontcourt (perhaps perks knee was worse than it has been made out to be?). Are they really going to sign green long term this offseason? Nate was also a little sparkplug for them. Boston just hurt their title chances this year IMO.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

nate is involved too? i cant find a source that confirms that

yes he is...wow

[chazzy]

Rondo/West
Allen/Wafer or Quis
Pierce/Green
Garnett/Baby
Shaq/Kristic

Is this what it looks like now Boston fans?

[G-Funk]

why boston? I would had rather won a ring and let Perkins walk for nothing than to trade him away and decrease my chances.

[icewill36]

damn..... if only okc had three point shooting they would be extremely dangerous

[kaiiu]

Damn that 3 by green yesterday was the last straw:lol

[Kingsfans818]

Green is the best play in the trade IMO but he doesn't really do much to help Boston. Nate was also huge off the bench @ the playoffs last year -- hit a lot of big shots -- Boston regressed :banghead: :banghead:

OKC also loses a lot offensive power with a Ibaka/Perkins lineup because teams can clog the middle.. Green as a stretch 4 really opened the lanes for Durant/Westbrooke.. If nothing else their going to have to insert a shooter into the SG spot now

[DeronMillsap]

Boston gotta bring Sheed back if they're losing Perks.

Do they have room for a 15th player?

[The_Yearning]

Rondo/West
Allen/Wafer or Quis
Pierce/Green
Garnett/Baby
Shaq/Kristic

Is this what it looks like now Boston fans?

They also got JO, Erden, and Harangody.

That's a lot of fouls right there.

[PJR]

Kristic is awful FYI.

[alenleomessi]

I guess my prediction in the summer of OKC - Heat finals isn't that bad after all :D

[MMM]

WTF OKC got Nasty Naz as well

[Pursuer]

It is unbelievable, but OKC traded Green for Perkins in my NBA 2k11 association. This is hard to believe to me, that Boston's taking such a risk, considering how Shaq and Jermaine have been injured this season.

[Rose]

OKC might just be on track to make the WCF.

[DeronMillsap]

WTF OKC got Nasty Naz as well
Damn!!! They're loading up their bigs.

[The_Yearning]

OKC might just be on track to make the WCF.

Naw. That is reserved for the Spurs and the Lakers.

[All Net]

Why you would trade argueable the best post defender in the league for a swingman? Boston don't need offense...they are great because of their size and post defense. It's why they would give Miami problems.

Why trade Perk when you pretty much already are the favourites to win it all? stupid.

[Rose]

Naw. That is reserved for the Spurs and the Lakers.
If they can avoid the Lakers...they can probably the WCF.

[All Net]

They also got JO, Erden, and Harangody.

That's a lot of fouls right there.

But they aren't stopping anybody.

[Done_And_Done]

Maybe it's just me but I'm not seeing where Green fits in with the Celts. Though I'm not discrediting his ability to play the game, it Just seems like an odd acquisition for some reason...

[crosso√er]

Why you would trade argueable the best post defender in the league for a swingman? Boston don't need offense...they are great because of their size and post defense. It's why they would give Miami problems.

Why trade Perk when you pretty much already are the favourites to win it all? stupid.

They don't want to loss him for nothing, I guess.
They got Green, who is a good young player.

From that perspective, it makes sense.
OKC just got so much better though; their defense is so lethal now with Westbrook, Ibaka and Perkins among others. :rant

[chazzy]

Now Doc can forever use that "Our starting 5 has never lost a series" line :lol

I don't think it's as bad for Boston as you guys are making it out to be. Jeff Green is provides really nice scoring off the bench for now and is a nice piece for the future, and Kristic is serviceable. With Quis possibly out for a while they lacked wing depth.. they just have to really hope Shaq stays healthy which is always a question mark.

[mans1ay3r]

um. what.

All I can think is Boston has been #1 on the east without Perk.. so maybe Ainge feels.. they don't need him as much? Damn I feel bad for Perk, he worked his @ss off to heal and come back. I dont know much about Jeff Green.. gotta check him out now.. sigh.

[ginobli2311]

Why you would trade argueable the best post defender in the league for a swingman? Boston don't need offense...they are great because of their size and post defense. It's why they would give Miami problems.

Why trade Perk when you pretty much already are the favourites to win it all? stupid.

bingo. i don't get it unless perk is really hurt, but then no way the thunder do this.

i don't get this at all.

great for the thunder though. they are a legit threat to win the west now.

[DuMa]

boston probably had other reasons for doing this. they didnt trust the longterm health of perkins

[MMM]

Why you would trade argueable the best post defender in the league for a swingman? Boston don't need offense...they are great because of their size and post defense. It's why they would give Miami problems.

Why trade Perk when you pretty much already are the favourites to win it all? stupid.

my guess tot he thought process is:
they did fine without him for 3 months
they probably couldn't afford to resign him in a few months
Green is a nice asset moving forward
and Perk is coming off an injury and just recently banged up his other knee a little

does that justify this move???? Probably not.

[The_Yearning]

People are forgetting Jeff Green's versatility. This can is probably the best bench scorer the Celtics have had in years and he can provide much more. He can play the 3 or 4...drive/shoot and is pretty athletic...something the Celtics were looking for I guess.

[All Net]

um. what.

All I can think is Boston has been #1 on the east without Perk.. so maybe Ainge feels.. they don't need him as much? Damn I feel bad for Perk, he worked his @ss off to heal and come back. I dont know much about Jeff Green.. gotta check him out now.. sigh.

They would always of needed him vs Miami, L.A e.t.c

Depending on Shaq and JO is a big mistake.

[All Net]

my guess tot he thought process is:
they did fine without him for 3 months
they probably couldn't afford to resign him in a few months
Green is a nice asset moving forward
and Perk is coming off an injury and just recently banged up his other knee a little

does that justify this move???? Probably not.

But isn't Green a FA too?

How do you feel about this MMM?

maybe Ainge is thinking long term not this year?

[kaiiu]

So Jeff. Green gonna come off the bench? If so what a waste of talent :facepalm :facepalm

[kabalcage]

We finally have a big. OMG! This is really exciting; I hope he's not broken.

Jeff Green is a little too good to a backup, but that's a very nice pickup for the Celtics. Semih Erden / Nenad / Shaq / Rasheed (he'll come back) should be a more than serviceable frontcourt rotation. And toss in a little Jeff Green; the Celtics will be hard to beat.

The Thunder now have a properly balanced roster. It seems like Thabo Sefolosha will be the primary SF backup.

Perkins / Cole Aldrich
Ibaka / Collison
Durant
Sefolosha / Harden / Cook / Robinson
Westbrook / Maynor

[kaiiu]

So Jeff. Green gonna come off the bench? If so what a waste of talent :facepalm :facepalm

[Clutch]

Good move for OKC.

If Perkins can stay healthy they will be very dangerous.

I think we have one of the most interesting deadlines in a while.

[Draz]

LOL OKC raped them.

[chazzy]

Let's not forget that Boston has been at the top of the league in defense WITHOUT Perkins for the first half of the season. Garnett is their defensive anchor, not Perk.. their offense has been somewhat average coimparatively. I don't think they'll lose too much defensively, and their offense gets better. We'll see how it plays out because their success hinges on Shaq's health a lot now.

[Kingwillball]

Any Celtic Fan happy about this better wake Up..Your Chances of Even making it out of the East just dramatically diminished.. Perk was an anchor inside that sealed of the driving lanes of Wade and Bron and even Rose better than anyone. The Heat especially now will have more of a green light driving the ball inside. Plus Nate Dog was a nice spark ..Rondo will have to log heavy minutes..

[MMM]

But isn't Green a FA too?

How do you feel about this MMM?

maybe Ainge is thinking long term not this year?

Green is a RFA which is a bit different. The Celtics could potentially use him as a asset in future acquisitions. Right now I'm not sold on the trade especially considering how fragile the O'Neal center tandem has been this season.

[ballup]

I almost spat out my drink when I saw this on Facebook. I'm very mixed about this trade. Danny did a great job getting a lengthy 3 and a big who can pop, but he's taking a huge risk. He's depending on Delonte's health to spell Rondo. My guess for not holding onto Perkins is what we all saw in the Orlando game. Although Perk wasn't 100%, he was getting owned by Howard's post moves early on. Maybe Danny thought that since Howard is not easily guard-able by one man, Perk is no longer needed. Also to note is Perk's new injury, which could cause future problems and concerns.

So is this Boston's new roster?
Starters - Rondo, Ray, Pierce, Garnett, Shaq
Bench - Delonte, Wafer/Parker???, Green, Baby, Krystic

I think Doc would shift Baby into the 5 sometimes and Green to the 4 in spot minutes.

[Real Men Wear Green]

And as a follow-up...Semih and Gody get traded.

[schism206]

We'll see how it plays out, but at first glance, this seems like a big mistake. Jermaine O'neal is pretty much worthless imo, but is a 7footer. Shaq is good for limited play, but Perk is a fierce rebounder and defender, and an intimidator to other big men. That's EXACTLY what you need in the playoffs... especially since the Celts were one of the biggest teams in terms of front court. How does that help them beat Miami, Orlando or the Lakers? :facepalm

[PJR]

Miami is going to the Finals. I might just have to put some money down now.


I mean c'mon. Shaq right now is out right now with an inflammed achillies, and JO just had knee surgery a few weeks ago(not to mention he's garbage).


I bet Doc Rivers wants to punch a wall now.

[Harrison_Barnes]

Don't understand why Boston does this trade.. but OKC just improved big time.

[oh the horror]

AND THEN Boston shed their other dude Erden as well?


Way to roll the fu*k on over there Boston.



I realize its all about money, and behind the scenes shit, but DAMN.



NBA and the business side, just kills shit.

[DuMa]

And as a follow-up...Semih and Gody get traded.

my god. what are teh celtics doing? Erden was very servicable.

[chazzy]

my god. what are teh celtics doing? Erden was very servicable.
Kristic is better, but yeah they could use him for depth

[XxSMSxX]

my god. what are teh celtics doing? Erden was very servicable.

Except for the fact if he wasn't always injured and is about to have shoulder surgery soon if i remember correctly

[pete's montreux]

I know why they are doing all these trades, however I have nothing to say.

[Blue&Orange]

I know why they are doing all these trades, however I have nothing to say. You already did. So you basically are looking like an ass.

[pete's montreux]

You already did. So you basically are looking like an ass.

Way to COMPLETELY misinterpret a simple sentence.

[Ancient Legend]

WOJ on Twitter:

As you'd expect, Celtics vets are livid over trade of Kendrick Perkins, sources say. He's the tough guy, enforcer. But BOS can't pay him.

http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/40882959762464768

[jasonresno]

:banana:

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

**** this shit.

[AMISTILLILL]

Seriously stunned by this move. Something has to be cooking or else Boston wouldn't have made these moves.

Pistons buying out Rip with Celtics knocking at their door? Even if that was the case I still don't see how that helps Boston more than having Perk in the front court.

[InspiredLebowski]

Ainge ate some shrooms today

[Blue&Orange]

Way to COMPLETELY misinterpret a simple sentence.
lol
I know the meaning of life, however i've got nothing to say.

See? Not cool, not cool at all.

:rolleyes:

[kabalcage]

We finally have a big. OMG! This is really exciting; I hope he's not broken.

Jeff Green is a little too good to a backup, but that's a very nice pickup for the Celtics. Semih Erden / Nenad / Shaq / Rasheed (he'll come back) should be a more than serviceable frontcourt rotation. And toss in a little Jeff Green; the Celtics will be hard to beat.

The Thunder now have a properly balanced roster. It seems like Thabo Sefolosha will be the primary SF backup.

Perkins / Cole Aldrich
Ibaka / Collison
Durant
Sefolosha / Harden / Cook / Robinson
Westbrook / Maynor

--

And if hasn't already been said, that Jeff Green Celtics jersey is going to be HOT! I can't think of a cooler name/team combo in the league.

[crisoner]

Perkins had his chance to stay with the team right? But he did not sign an extension? So....oh well.

Maybe the Celtics did this hoping the Thunder would knock out the Lakers?

lol

[BlackWhiteGreen]

We finally have a big. OMG! This is really exciting; I hope he's not broken.

Jeff Green is a little too good to a backup, but that's a very nice pickup for the Celtics. Semih Erden / Nenad / Shaq / Rasheed (he'll come back) should be a more than serviceable frontcourt rotation. And toss in a little Jeff Green; the Celtics will be hard to beat.

The Thunder now have a properly balanced roster. It seems like Thabo Sefolosha will be the primary SF backup.

Perkins / Cole Aldrich
Ibaka / Collison
Durant
Sefolosha / Harden / Cook / Robinson
Westbrook / Maynor

--

And if hasn't already been said, that Jeff Green Celtics jersey is going to be HOT! I can't think of a cooler name/team combo in the league.

Was traded to the Cavs with Harangody for a 2nd round pick.

We must have some kind of agreement with Sheed or Murphy (or both) that theyre coming here otherwise that move makes no sense.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Perkins had his chance to stay with the team right? But he did not sign an extension? So....oh well.

Maybe the Celtics did this hoping the Thunder would knock out the Lakers?

lol

The Thunder could give LA real problems now with Perk, Mohammed and Ibaka to defend the paint. I imagine they'll be gunning for top 3 or even top 2 now.

[pete's montreux]

lol
I know the meaning of life, however i've got nothing to say.

See? Not cool, not cool at all.

:rolleyes:

Of all the things you could've said, you decided on "not cool at all". Yikes.

[oh the horror]

We must have some kind of agreement with Sheed or Murphy (or both) that theyre coming here otherwise that move makes no sense.



They have to have SOMETHING else brewing right? Why on earth would they move two of their bigs?


I mean are they depending on Shaq, JO, and Nenad Kristic?!

[Kurosawa0]

Love this for OKC. They now have a shot against anyone.

As for Boston, well, maybe it works. Maybe Jeff Green kinda gives them what Lamar Odom gives the Lakers. Maybe...

All I know is that Miami, the Lakers, Bulls, Magic and Spurs all have to feel like they have a better shot at beating Boston than they did this morning.

[AMISTILLILL]

Murphy/Rip Hamilton/Sheed better all be signing with Boston, if that 'Quis to the Kings thing was true.

[Alhazred]

I wonder if Perkins' absence will come back to bite Boston in the ass come playoff time? Weird move by the Celtics.

[AMISTILLILL]

I wonder if Perkins' absence will come back to bite Boston in the ass come playoff time?

Gee, you think?

[chazzy]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/211434/Sources_Rasheed_Contemplating_Comeback

[ballup]

Murphy/Rip Hamilton/Sheed better all be signing with Boston, if that 'Quis to the Kings thing was true.
Rip is staying in Detroit. Murphy is a mystery between Miami and Boston. Sheed, oh god, hope he's not the reason for blowing up the end of the bench.

[DStebb716]

And if hasn't already been said, that Jeff Green Celtics jersey is going to be HOT! I can't think of a cooler name/team combo in the league.

They've had a Green before in Gerald Green.

[Optimus Prime]

Lakers reaction to this news: :banana:

If the Lakers meet the Celtics in the Finals, then Gasol and Bynum will just roflstomp 90-year old Shaq, the-player-formerly-known-as-Jermaine O'Neal, super-soft jumping Euro Krstic and that rookie goofy European guy into the ground. If Perkins hadn't gotten hurt, then the Finals may have ended up differently. I bet Dwight Howard is just frothing at the mouth too. Really, really :wtf: trade for Boston.

As for the OKC Thunder, the reason that they gave the Lakers a run is because they were younger and faster. Now, they are just...more conventional. Overall, I think the OKC Thunder are a better team, but the Lakers do not fear the Thunder with Perkins (who missed how many games this year? 40-some?) and Nazr Mohammed (LOL). With only 20-some odd games to gel before the playoffs?

The winner of this trade? The Los Angeles Lakers! :banana:

[Gundress]

Thunder won over this trade.

Celtics should have kept Perkins.

[Horde of Temujin]

I love the audacity of the OKC front office, they smell blood and putting the cards on the table

[AMISTILLILL]

Lakers reaction to this news: :banana:

If the Lakers meet the Celtics in the Finals, then Gasol and Bynum will just roflstomp 90-year old Shaq, the-player-formerly-known-as-JO and that big, super-soft jumping Euro Krstic and that rookie goofy European guy into the ground. If Perkins hadn't gotten hurt, then the Finals may have ended up differently. I bet Dwight Howard is just frothing at the mouth too. Really, really :wtf: trade for Boston.

As for the OKC Thunder, the reason that they gave the Lakers a run is because they were younger and faster. Now, they are just...more conventional. Overall, I think the OKC Thunder are a better team, but the Lakers do not fear the Thunder with Perkins (who missed how many games this year? 40-some?) and Nazr Mohammed (LOL). With only 20-some odd games to gel before the playoffs?

The winner of this trade? The Los Angeles Lakers! :banana:

At this point the Magic won't even make it out of the first round anyway with the way they're playing.

[MMM]

Murphy/Rip Hamilton/Sheed better all be signing with Boston, if that 'Quis to the Kings thing was true.

Celtics have 3 open roster spots but I think murphy, parker are more probably than rip and sheed.

[oh the horror]

I love the audacity of the OKC front office, they smell blood and putting the cards on the table



Dude no doubt about it, OKC made a GREAT couple of moves man. They've gotten bigger, and nastier on the inside with the acquisition of Nazr, and Kendrick. And then they have Nate coming off the bench? THATS PRETTY DAMN SOLID.

[InspiredLebowski]

I'm gonna see if I can work out a deal where Presti gets 51% ownership if he comes and runs the Pacers

[SinJackal]

Thunder just gave themselves at a shot at the WFC.

I don't agree tbh. I think they just got a bit worse. They lose some quickness and instant scoring. Jeff Green was a valuble offensive weapon for them. Thunder might match up better against LA now, but do they match up better against the Mavs or Spurs after this? I'm not so sure. Though I guess they matched up against SA like crap anyway before trade. So some chance at WCF is better than no chance.

Still their best chance at actually reaching the WCF is to get higher than the 4 seed. Maybe they can do it now?

[3ptShooter]

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but

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:facepalm




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[oh the horror]

Man, a lot is going to be riding on the health of JO and Shaq now.....wow.

[1987_Lakers]

They better hope Shaq is 100% in the postseason or the Celtics are done.:oldlol:

[branslowski]

This is all apart of Boston's plan to knock us out before the Finals...By Making Thunder better, it will be a difficult task for the Lakers and other teams in the West to defeat them...Boston knows they can't beat the Lakers, this is their give up plan.

Wasn't Celtics playing great without Perk? It isn't like Perk is great on offense....As for defense and rebounding...Ahh, Shaq can push ppl around with his fat ass and still grab boards, also Big Baby is a great 5th option hustle player...Oh, and they still have some guy named Kevin Garnett, maybe, just maybe he has what it takes to play defense and get rebounds...

[Optimus Prime]

At this point the Magic won't even make it out of the first round anyway with the way they're playing.

Yeah, which means they might meet Boston (1-3 seed locked) as a 6-8 seed. :D

[ihatetimthomas]

Lakers reaction to this news: :banana:

If the Lakers meet the Celtics in the Finals, then Gasol and Bynum will just roflstomp 90-year old Shaq, the-player-formerly-known-as-Jermaine O'Neal, super-soft jumping Euro Krstic and that rookie goofy European guy into the ground. If Perkins hadn't gotten hurt, then the Finals may have ended up differently. I bet Dwight Howard is just frothing at the mouth too. Really, really :wtf: trade for Boston.

As for the OKC Thunder, the reason that they gave the Lakers a run is because they were younger and faster. Now, they are just...more conventional. Overall, I think the OKC Thunder are a better team, but the Lakers do not fear the Thunder with Perkins (who missed how many games this year? 40-some?) and Nazr Mohammed (LOL). With only 20-some odd games to gel before the playoffs?

The winner of this trade? The Los Angeles Lakers! :banana:

Perkins is not a guy who will be difficult to incorporate into a team. Its not like he needs the ball. He has played in one of the best systems in the league, he wont be as difficult to gel as you think

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

This is all apart of Boston's plan to knock us out before the Finals...By Making Thunder better, it will be a difficult task for the Lakers and other teams in the West to defeat them...Boston knows they can't beat the Lakers, this is their give up plan.

Wasn't Celtics playing great without Perk? It isn't like Perk is great on offense....As for defense and rebounding...Ahh, Shaq can push ppl around with his fat ass and still grab boards, also Big Baby is a great 5th option hustle player...Oh, and they still have some guy named Kevin Garnett, maybe, just maybe he has what it takes to play defense and get rebounds...:roll:

[LA_Showtime]

I don't understand why the Celtics would do this, unless 'Sheed plans on coming back. It's not like they can put Green on the floor with Allen, Pierce, AND KG. One of them would have to sit.

[Optimus Prime]

3ptShooter, those pics made me LOL. Especially the Shaq with IcyHot one. He's the oldest player in the league now, and no disrespect to Shaq, but he's what the Celtics are hoping on to neutralize Dwight Howard, Pau Gasol and Andrew Bynum?! :lol

[ILLsmak]

As I posted, it's sad for Perk... but I think the problem isn't giving up Perk but getting Green. Green is a talent, but there is no room for him in the starting lineup.

Shaq can take over for Perk as long as he stays healthy. Nenad is an upgrade and I never liked Nate.

And, as I also said, maybe Perk was gonna be injury prone now.

-Smak

[Optimus Prime]

Mike Fratello said it best:

The Celtics have given up a legitimate shot at winning the title this year because of future financial considerations. He said it's "sad", but I think it's great! :banana:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

As I posted, it's sad for Perk... but I think the problem isn't giving up Perk but getting Green. Green is a talent, but there is no room for him in the starting lineup.

Shaq can take over for Perk as long as he stays healthy. Nenad is an upgrade and I never liked Nate.

And, as I also said, maybe Perk was gonna be injury prone now.
-Smak

I think people are overlooking this fact. He wanted more than $7m per in the summer.

It doesnt mean he wouldn't have been useful for us this year, however.

[AMISTILLILL]

This falls in line with the concept of Ainge striving to make Boston relevant even after the Big Three retire. Green will be a great asset to keep on board when those guys call it quits, especially with Rondo running the point. I'm still uneasy about Big Baby playing a starting role, plus I wouldn't be shocked if he leaves for a young team with a sucker front office willing to give him a max contract and a starting spot.

If Rondo/Green is the future of this Boston Celtics team, the future looks pretty promising... but they have A LOT of work to do now that they got rid of Perkins.

Celtics should have tried to pry Powe back from the Cavaliers in that Gody/Erden deal. Guy did wonders off the bench and was never utilized in Cleveland's system... due to injuries, maybe? I don't think I've ever seen him play more than a handful of minutes during his entire time with the Cavs.

[MooseJuiceBowen]

celtics are just not smart at all what are they thinking!?!?!

[Celtics 1825]

Stupid Trade. The only current center we have is undersized. We should have kept Perk. Nate needed to go, but not Perk.

And why trade Semih and Luke for a draft pick? We can win now, not in the future... :confusedshrug:

[momo]

http://www.poplexity.net/uploads/crying_celtic.jpg

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but

http://edakrong.com/dev/michellehux/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/kobe_happy.jpg

http://media.cleveland.com/nathans_nation/photo/lebron-james-the-decision-14235b21fa6dfe8a-largejpg-2f51118fac9044ca.jpg

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:facepalm




http://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a0115709f071f970b0133f4a5a246970b-400wi
http://instoresnow.walmart.com/uploadedImages/In_Stores_Now/Free_Samples/1757_pov_cha_icyhot_backpatch_sample.jpg


Lol, repped :lol

[AMISTILLILL]

Celtics fans need to have faith that something is brewing behind the scenes. I don't know what, but hopefully something. Even with the trade deadline passed.

[ILLsmak]

Stupid Trade. The only current center we have is undersized. We should have kept Perk. Nate needed to go, but not Perk.

And why trade Semih and Luke for a draft pick? We can win now, not in the future... :confusedshrug:

Shaq is undersized??? lol.

-Smak

[MMM]

Stupid Trade. The only current center we have is undersized. We should have kept Perk. Nate needed to go, but not Perk.

And why trade Semih and Luke for a draft pick? We can win now, not in the future... :confusedshrug:

to open up roster spots for potential bought out players like; Murphy, parker, rip, etc. is it worth taking a risk by trading Perk, probably not

[momo]

This just boggled my mind from beantowns perspective.

Good trade for OKC. The L is going bananas with the trades!

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Shaq is undersized??? lol.

-Smak

Pretty sure Nenad is bigger than Perk too.

[StroShow4]

Christ, some of you overrate the hell out of Kenrick Perkins. I love this deal for Boston. Perkins is a liability on offense and Boston's D is still elite without him. Jeff Green will help their bench unit put the ball in the basket, something they really struggle to do. Nenad Krstic can hit the J so someone has to guard him when he's on the floor. You didn't even have to pay attention to Perkins outside of five feet.

[Celtics 1825]

to open up roster spots for potential bought out players like; Murphy, parker, rip, etc. is it worth taking a risk by trading Perk, probably not

Yeah, but the trade deadline is already over. I'm not sure if you can pick up bought out players after it.

[chazzy]

Who's OKC's 3rd scoring option? Harden isn't consistent and I'm not sure how much scoring you could get out of Ibaka

[Celtics 1825]

Shaq is undersized??? lol.

-Smak

I said current centers as in ones playing right now. Shaq is injured.

I don't know how tall Krstic is actually, but I was talking about Baby.

[stephanieg]

Trading one of the best bigs for scrubs when you're trying to win right now and NOT in the future? Makes sense.

[ProfessorMurder]

Celtics fans need to have faith that something is brewing behind the scenes. I don't know what, but hopefully something. Even with the trade deadline passed.

I've got faith in this, Ainge isn't stupid. It looks bad, but everything hasn't shaken out yet and there are 3 roster spots open now.

[AMISTILLILL]

Yeah, but the trade deadline is already over. I'm not sure if you can pick up bought out players after it.

Of course you can. They're bought out, not traded.

[ProfessorMurder]

Trading one of the best bigs for scrubs when you're trying to win right now and NOT in the future? Makes sense.

:lol Green is no scrub.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Christ, some of you overrate the hell out of Kenrick Perkins. I love this deal for Boston. Perkins is a liability on offense and Boston's D is still elite without him. Jeff Green will help their bench unit put the ball in the basket, something they really struggle to do. Nenad Krstic can hit the J so someone has to guard him when he's on the floor. You didn't even have to pay attention to Perkins outside of five feet.

Yeah, I guess. It's still difficult to take in though I guess.

That Clips pick could be useful, you never know. If it comes through as low 10s in the 2012 draft we could get a winner, or move up potentially too. Theres definitely plenty of upside to the deal, certainly. I think its just difficult because no one saw this coming.

[AMISTILLILL]

One thing is for sure: Portland and OKC got A LOT better today. A little strength added to the western conference today after the Williams/Anthony departures to the east. Definitely not on the level of those superstars but certainly enough to keep things interesting. OKC is SCARY now. So much size up front, scoring punches off the bench... they're a force to be reckoned with and wouldn't be shocked to see them finish third in the west.

[chazzy]

Yeah people need to stop acting like they just lost Perkins for the season and got nothing out of it. Their defense has been fine without him and they needed wing depth/scoring that Green will provide. Though I wouldn't feel as confident about their title chances until we see how effective Green is off the bench.

[nycelt84]

This trade is a bigger shocker to me than the Williams to Nets trade.Perkins must be more injured than thought or Ainge really thinks this can work but only time will tell.

[ProfessorMurder]

One thing is for sure: Portland and OKC got A LOT better today. A little strength added to the western conference today after the Williams/Anthony departures to the east. Definitely not on the level of those superstars but certainly enough to keep things interesting. OKC is SCARY now. So much size up front, scoring punches off the bench... they're a force to be reckoned with and wouldn't be shocked to see them finish third in the west.

I'm really happy for OKC, literally the perfect moves. Even if they don't go far this year, the Spurs/Lakers will only slow down in the coming years.

I already liked OKC and now I like them more since they have Perk!

[Sharmer]

Celtics fans.. this move doesn't hurt them, the celtics won 12 straight without perk, they needed a back up for PP at the SF,


If Shaq stays healthy and JO & Nenad Krstic backing up , there fine at the C

I couldnt stand Nate, especially when playing the Point.

[Bernie Nips]

I don't understand getting rid of Marquis for cash. I don't understand it.

[ProfessorMurder]

I don't understand getting rid of Marquis for cash. I don't understand it.

I bet Anthony Parker agreed to come to Boston, or Rip is getting bought out.

[MMM]

I don't understand getting rid of Marquis for cash. I don't understand it.

he was likely out for the season and it opens up a roster spot for the C's to add a bought out player;

rip
parker
camby
etc.

Anyways what can we expect from Green???? can we really expect him to fit in with this team as they make a championship run. From that perspective I don't really understand this deal. Why take on such a risk???

[All Net]

I bet Anthony Parker agreed to come to Boston, or Rip is getting bought out.

Neither are getting bought out, both been confirmed. Rip didn't want to give up the money.

[StroShow4]

Most of you have this sh!t ass backwards... acting like Green is the scrub and Perkins is a stud. Thunder got robbed.

[The Next Jordan]

The thread should be retitled to "Championship to Los Angeles, Backlash to Danny Ainge"

[YouCallILose]

he was likely out for the season and it opens up a roster spot for the C's to add a bought out player;

rip
parker
camby
etc.

Anyways what can we expect from Green???? can we really expect him to fit in with this team as they make a championship run. From that perspective I don't really understand this deal. Why take on such a risk???

Green's a good SF. He will be a good backup, but he can't play any other position. Him at PF=total disaster

The problem for Boston is this, if they're thinking about Green longterm..he's going to cost more than Perkins would have

I can't believe Boston did this though..man Green is at best a backup on a title team. Perkins is a legit center

[LA_Showtime]

I thought Boston's whole thing this summer was to improve their front court depth to match the Lakers front line. Now they're quite small. Again, what the hell? Are they planning on playing small ball at times, because unless the O'Neal's stay healthy they have NO depth.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I bet Anthony Parker agreed to come to Boston, or Rip is getting bought out.

Apparently neither are getting bought out. Probably back to Butler/Howard ideas from before. WOuldn't surprise me about Parker though, after we gave the Cavs a steal.

First post has been updated, btw.

[StroShow4]

Now they're quite small.

Yeah, Shaq is tiny. Krstic is a midget. JO shrunk to 6'5 in his old age.

[ballup]

I've got faith in this, Ainge isn't stupid. It looks bad, but everything hasn't shaken out yet and there are 3 roster spots open now.
Ainge isn't stupid, but he makes very risky moves that can end up as total flops.

[magnax1]

I was more surprised when I saw this trade then when I saw that Utah traded Deron. Trade makes 0 sense. None. What so ever. It's like Boston's version of the Shaq sun trade. Trade for a guy who doesn't fit with what they're currently doing, change their style and lose overall talent despite being in first place. I never thought Phoenix was going to win, but they had a very good chance to get out of the conference, and they killed that chance. Exactly what has happened here.

[MMM]

Celtics fans.. this move doesn't hurt them, the celtics won 12 straight without perk, they needed a back up for PP at the SF,


If Shaq stays healthy and JO & Nenad Krstic backing up , there fine at the C

I couldnt stand Nate, especially when playing the Point.

They haven't been able to stay healthy all season which is a major concern heading into the playoffs.

[All Net]

Most of you have this sh!t ass backwards... acting like Green is the scrub and Perkins is a stud. Thunder got robbed.

Nobody is saying Green isn't good but the main reason why Boston are so great is their size...without Perk they lose a big advantage over Miami/ L.A.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

Most of you have this sh!t ass backwards... acting like Green is the scrub and Perkins is a stud. Thunder got robbed.

Agree that people are undervaluing Green, but he was spare parts in OKC who have to extend Westbrook soon. Perkins filled their need.

[LA_Showtime]

Yeah, Shaq is tiny. Krstic is a midget. JO shrunk to 6'5 in his old age.

I don't think that will matter since Shaq can't play more than 25 minutes and Jermaine O'Neal's knee is retired.

[Scoooter]

Wow. Exciting trade season.

[dwightderon]

I believe it's a good trade for both teams.

[The Dream]

All I can ask is.........................................Why?

[StroShow4]

Nobody is saying Green isn't good but the main reason why Boston are so great is their size...without Perk they lose a big advantage over Miami/ L.A.

LA had a size advantage over Boston WITH Perk. Perk couldn't keep Bynum off the glass, Boston was the league's second worst team on the boards WITH Perkins' overrated ass back in '09/10. They're still second worst without him this year.

Boston loses little and gains a 15 PPG scorer off the bench and a seven footer with a J. That's how I see it. No one would give a f@ck about Perkins if he didn't play for a great team. We'll see how sick his D is without KG and company. The guy is a good man defender, but he isn't about to turn OKC into the stingiest team in the league.

Kendrick Perkins is Kwame Brown without the stigma of being a major bust. Strong guy, great man defender, offensive liability.

[jasonresno]

Yeah, Shaq is tiny. Krstic is a midget. JO shrunk to 6'5 in his old age.
I heard Shaq and JO are super young and always healthy. And Kristic. Don't get me started on him. He's a 20/12 every night. A starting big with good D > a scorer off the bench.

:cheers:

[StroShow4]

I heard Shaq and JO are super young and always healthy. And Kristic. Don't get me started on him. He's a 20/12 every night.

:cheers:

Perkins was healthy? Perkins was doing 20/12? I'm not saying Shaq, Krstic, or JO are awesome... I'm saying Perkins isn't that f@ckin' great and Boston got a really good player out of him.

[branslowski]

Perkins gettin mad overrated in these parts.:facepalm

[jasonresno]

Perkins was healthy? Perkins was doing 20/12? I'm not saying Shaq, Krstic, or JO are awesome... I'm saying Perkins isn't that f@ckin' great and Boston got a really good player out of him.
I'm just saying out of Shaq/JO how many playoff games do you think they're going to miss? And outta the ones they do play how heavy do you think they can go minutes wise?

Big wins in the postseason, that's all.

[StroShow4]

I'm just saying out of Shaq/JO how many playoff games do you think they're going to miss? And outta the ones they do play how heavy do you think they can go minutes wise?

Big wins in the postseason, that's all.

I'm not worried about Shaq. JO? Who knows, I'll give you that. Krstic? He should be fine. Sheed's probably coming out of retirement to fill one of these newly emptied roster spaces, f@ck, he's big.

[LA_Showtime]

This move would more way more sense if the Celtics actually had a gaping hole at small forward or shooting guard. Fortunately, they have Pierce and Ray. They could put Green at power forward, but that Kevin Garnett guy is pretty good, and so is Big Baby. I just don't see why they gave up so much for somebody who's going to be sitting on the bench in the 4th quarter. Perkins, while not a statistical freak, was one of the best pick and roll defenders out there and epitomized the Celtics' defense. Guys like KG have called Perkins the anchor to the defense. Wasn't this the guy who would've made all the difference in game 7? I guess not.

[Pacquiao]

Perkins is asking for more money after this season which the Celtics can't afford... Why can't some people understand this simple fact?

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I'm just saying out of Shaq/JO how many playoff games do you think they're going to miss? And outta the ones they do play how heavy do you think they can go minutes wise?

Big wins in the postseason, that's all.

Good job neither of the primary Bulls bigs have been injured this season then :cheers:

[ELHooP]

I believe it's a good trade for both teams.
I don't think so.
I cant wait to see what Charles has to say about this

[ILLsmak]

Nobody is saying Green isn't good but the main reason why Boston are so great is their size...without Perk they lose a big advantage over Miami/ L.A.


Perk has only played 12 games this season and they are still mauling everyone. Even with various injuries to KG, Rondo, Shaq...

Right now, we don't even know if Perk is gonna be a factor this year. Remember he came back from a big injury and his other knee is now not working well.

-Smak

[jasonresno]

I'm not worried about Shaq. JO? Who knows, I'll give you that. Krstic? He should be fine. Sheed's probably coming out of retirement to fill one of these newly emptied roster spaces, f@ck, he's big.
He's already said he's staying retired. Krstic is OK, but that's it. If you're going to war against Odom/Bynum/Gasol or Dwight Howard you want more than a jumpshooting euro C, a halfway retired JO, or a "i can run the court twice in a game" shaq.


Perkins is asking for more money after this season which the Celtics can't afford... Why can't some people understand this simple fact?
Why not give it one more run for another ring? Besides, Green is an RFA and he's going to be asking for a good deal as well.

[jasonresno]

Good job neither of the primary Bulls bigs have been injured this season then :cheers:
They have been?

[StroShow4]

Wasn't this the guy who would've made all the difference in game 7?

According to morons, yeah. Rasheed was fine in that game. Boston's D was fine. LA only scored 83 points. Unfortunately for Boston, they couldn't put the ball in the basket either, and LA beat them up on the offensive glass. Perkins didn't help them rebound the ball anyway, so I don't buy that excuse.

[LA_Showtime]

Perkins is asking for more money after this season which the Celtics can't afford... Why can't some people understand this simple fact?

Yeah, and so will Green...

[ILLsmak]

This move would more way more sense if the Celtics actually had a gaping hole at small forward or shooting guard. Fortunately, they have Pierce and Ray. They could put Green at power forward, but that Kevin Garnett guy is pretty good, and so is Big Baby. I just don't see why they gave up so much for somebody who's going to be sitting on the bench in the 4th quarter. Perkins, while not a statistical freak, was one of the best pick and roll defenders out there and epitomized the Celtics' defense. Guys like KG have called Perkins the anchor to the defense. Wasn't this the guy who would've made all the difference in game 7? I guess not.

They didn't have Shaq, either, though. Shaq is better than Perk, even now. He's got more of a presence and he is a smarter offensive and defensive player... as well as having the hype to get away with more stuff like hard fouls that don't get called intentional.

-Smak

[LA_Showtime]

They didn't have Shaq, either, though. Shaq is better than Perk, even now. He's got more of a presence and he is a smarter offensive and defensive player... as well as having the hype to get away with more stuff like hard fouls that don't get called intentional.

-Smak

Again, do you really expect Shaq to hold down the fort for 40 minutes a night? What happens when he goes to the bench?

[StroShow4]

Krstic is OK, but that's it.

What the hell is Perkins? To me he's also "ok".



If you're going to war against Odom/Bynum/Gasol or Dwight Howard you want more than a jumpshooting euro C, a halfway retired JO, or a "i can run the court twice in a game" shaq.

I recall Perkins being eaten alive by Dwight Howard last time Boston played Orlando. I also recall Dwight eating his lunch on many other occasions.

[mlh1981]

I wish the Celtics had done this LAST year, before their playoff matchup against the Cavs!

[CelticBaller]

In Danny Ainge I trust. he problably saw that perk is going downhill with his injuries and that he will ask for a bigger contract in the summer

[Jasper]

Media are saying what are Boston's thoughts on this trade ?
:oldlol:
Granted Perkins was a board man and filler in the paint ..
The loss for the Celtics this season is actually Nate .
he was huge in backing up Rondo.

What did the Celtics get in return ::::::::

Green a prolific scorer who will replace "the Truth"

Yep - If Boston wins it all this year I expect Pierce to retire either this year or next season.

Next year Boston , Heat , Knicks will all be looking for a young center , and they will all be converging on Jorden from the LA Clippers.

[JustinJDW]

Wow. OKC's Big 3 (Durant, Westbrook, Green) is no more.

Jeff Green is much better than Perk.At what? Shooting 3's? :oldlol:


Danny Ainge just gave Miami the Eastern Conference crown.

Why in the world would you want to rely apon the health of Shaq and Jermaine O'Neal going into the post-season? Terrible. :facepalm

Perkins is arguably the best 1-1 post defender in the league, and exceptional on the pick and roll as well.

I know the Celtics lost Marquise Daniels, but Big Depth >>>> Wing depth. Terrible Move in my opinion.Pretty much this. Don't know what else to say. So for now on, when D-Wade or Lebron blow right past Pierce in Allen in the Playoffs, it will no longer be Perkins in the paint waiting for them. Its going to be this guy...

http://dimemag.com/wp-content/Images/aron/nenad_krstic.jpg

I bet they're shitting bricks. :oldlol:

[BlackWhiteGreen]

They have been?

Come on, man, we spend so much time arguing and you don't know I'm being sarcastic?

[jasonresno]

What the hell is Perkins? To me he's also "ok".




I recall Perkins being eaten alive by Dwight Howard last time Boston played Orlando. I also recall Dwight eating his lunch on many other occasions.
So Krstic=Perkins?

Huh.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

:oldlol: @ Perk being "ok".

We get it Stro, you don't think Perkins is good. 95% of Celtic fans disagree with you and we watch him night in and night out.

[All Net]

They didn't have Shaq, either, though. Shaq is better than Perk, even now. He's got more of a presence and he is a smarter offensive and defensive player... as well as having the hype to get away with more stuff like hard fouls that don't get called intentional.

-Smak

No he really isn't.

[jasonresno]

Come on, man, we spend so much time arguing and you don't know I'm being sarcastic?
No, I mean I assumed it was sarcasm. I just didn't understand the point of it? I didn't remember denying that the Bulls have been hurt?

[BlackWhiteGreen]

No, I mean I assumed it was sarcasm. I just didn't understand the point of it? I didn't remember denying that the Bulls have been hurt?

Nor did I say you denied it, just saying if you're considering big men winning the playoffs you may want to be a little worried yourself.

[jasonresno]

Nor did I say you denied it, just saying if you're considering big men winning the playoffs you may want to be a little worried yourself.
I'll go to war with Noah/Thomas/Asik and Boozer/Gibson over the Celtic bigs, as they stand. Thanks :D Noah,asik,and Gibson are great defenders.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

I'll go to war with Noah/Thomas/Asik and Boozer/Gibson over the Celtic bigs, as they stand. Thanks :D Noah,asik,and Gibson are great defenders.

If you say so. I'll stick with a hungry Shaq & Garnett over all 5, but each to their own :cheers:

[jasonresno]

If you say so. I'll stick with a hungry Shaq & Garnett over all 5, but each to their own :cheers:
You're thinking of a different kind of hungry :oldlol:

[StroShow4]

We get it Stro, you don't think Perkins is good.

Damn right I don't think he's good. Why the hell would I think he's good. He isn't good. :oldlol:



95% of Celtic fans disagree with you

I don't give a flying f@ck.



and we watch him night in and night out.

Still don't give a flying f@ck. I probably watch more NBA games than anyone here, and plenty of them are Celtics games. I've seen more than enough of Kendrick Perkins to feel confident that I know WTF I'm talking about.

[Borat]

Perk guards elite post guys one on one. This in itself is a major plus for your team defence. He is also tough (mentally and physically) which is invaluable in the playoffs.

He is the best post defender in the NBA. If you cant work out how valuable that is you might as well close down your blog, delete you dunk thread, put on 53 jerseys and go ride your skate board.

[StroShow4]

He is the best post defender in the NBA. If you cant work out how valuable that is you might as well close down your blog, delete you dunk thread, put on 53 jerseys and go ride your skate board.

Yeah, Celtics really sucked without him. I don't feel the need to elaborate.

[Hittin_Shots]

Damn right I don't think he's good. Why the hell would I think he's good. He isn't good. :oldlol:




I don't give a flying f@ck.




Still don't give a flying f@ck. I probably watch more NBA games than anyone here, and plenty of them are Celtics games. I've seen more than enough of Kendrick Perkins to feel confident that I know WTF I'm talking about.

I don't find perkins as great as the other celtics fans here seem to. He's good on the defensive end, terrible on offence. KG seems to improve the defence of players on his team, so who says this won't happen with kristic and green?

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

Damn right I don't think he's good. Why the hell would I think he's good. He isn't good. :oldlol:




I don't give a flying f@ck.




Still don't give a flying f@ck. I probably watch more NBA games than anyone here, and plenty of them are Celtics games. I've seen more than enough of Kendrick Perkins to feel confident that I know WTF I'm talking about.We heard you the first time, no need shove your opinion down our throats. Don't come in here and act like Celtic fans are not allowed to be upset that their starting center just got traded.

[LA_Showtime]

the only way i can rationalize this trade is if pierce has some type of undisclosed injury or his foot or hand is a lot worse than people are letting on.

[StroShow4]

We heard you the first time, no need shove your opinion down our throats. Don't come in here and act like Celtic fans are not allowed to be upset that their starting center just got traded.

I find it funny that I'm giving your team credit for pulling a wonderful trade and you're all mad at me. When Boston continues to be the best defensive team in the league without Perkins and Jeff Green helps their bench to not blow leads on a regular basis I don't want to hear a goddamn peep out of anybody.

[oh the horror]

If Boston makes some other moves here, by acquisition of some players via buyouts and such, this miiiiiiiiiiiiiiight not be too bad for them.


I mean Green and Kristic arent THAT fu*king bad. They just need to fill some spots with available players, which Im eager to see if they plan to do.



And truly, does anyone miss Nate? I feel like he was the odd man out there in Boston.


Also, alot is riding on the health of Shaq at this point man.

[BlueandGold]

I seriously don't get this.. giving up one of the best defensive center in the league, an instant energy combo guard who is beloved in the locker room for Green, Kristic and draft picks?? They also gave up Erdin, who has been playing meaningful minutes and Luke.. meh who could be something.

My thought is that they might be trying to matchup better with Miami but that doesn't make sense either because they are 3-0 against Miami this season... has Ainge started smoking crack like our good friends Beasleyfagboylover and Lebron23fagboylover?

But seriously... Perkins?? He was a huge part of those 2 Finals trips.. he anchored the defense as much as Garnett.. I wonder how the players feel about it? And btw.. will Green play tonight?

[tx_dave]

They always close with big baby davis anyway, so whats the big deal? I think Boston pulled a Utah once they knew they couldnt offer perkins what he was looking for and this was a decent deal


They will have also room to pick up Troy Murphy once he is waived,

Jeff Green/Kristic/Murphy are solid additions that will add to their depth

[kaiiu]

anybody else think the Thunder should start Harden like me? without Green they need a 3rd scoring option in their starting lineup

[Borat]

Yeah, Celtics really sucked without him. I don't feel the need to elaborate.

They got away with shit centre by committee for 40 games due to having 4 all stars.

Shit centre by committtee doesnt work in a the playoffs where you only play elite teams often with talented bigs. there are no games against the wizards and the Kings in the playoffs.

[LA_Showtime]

If Boston makes some other moves here, by acquisition of some players via buyouts and such, this miiiiiiiiiiiiiiight not be too bad for them.


I mean Green and Kristic arent THAT fu*king bad. They just need to fill some spots with available players, which Im eager to see if they plan to do.



And truly, does anyone miss Nate? I feel like he was the odd man out there in Boston.


Also, alot is riding on the health of Shaq at this point man.

it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. they traded for a guy who's going to spend the 4th quarter sitting on the bench, whereas perkins would most likely be in the game making an impact. what i considered boston's biggest strength was their front court players' ability to defend the pick and roll. lol not anymore.

[jasonresno]

They got away with shit centre by committee for 40 games due to having 4 all stars.

Shit centre by committtee doesnt work in a the playoffs where you only play elite teams often with talented bigs. there are no games against the wizards and the Kings in the playoffs.
Don't tell him he's wrong. He'll just get angry :lol

[StroShow4]

Don't tell him he's wrong. He'll just get angry :lol

I'm super angry right now. Right. I'm not even a Celtics or Thunder fan, I don't give a crap. I just find it funny that everyone and their mother thinks this Kwame Brown clone is something special. I don't see anyone sweating Kwame Brown deals.

[Kevin_Garnett_5]

I find it funny that I'm giving your team credit for pulling a wonderful trade and you're all mad at me. When Boston continues to be the best defensive team in the league without Perkins and Jeff Green helps their bench to not blow leads on a regular basis I don't want to hear a goddamn peep out of anybody.You think it's a wonderful trade, that doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you.

I highly doubt this trade makes Boston better. The best case scenario is we manage to play at the same level on defense. I don't see how we get much better offensively after losing half our bench. Green's numbers will definitely go down.

[jasonresno]

I'm super angry right now. Right. I'm not even a Celtics or Thunder fan, I don't give a crap. I just find it funny that everyone and their mother thinks this Kwame Brown clone is something special. I don't see anyone sweating Kwame Brown deals.
Kwame Brown? Really?

















:applause:

[oh the horror]

it just doesn't make a whole lot of sense. they traded for a guy who's going to spend the 4th quarter sitting on the bench, whereas perkins would most likely be in the game making an impact. what i considered boston's biggest strength was their front court players' ability to defend the pick and roll. lol not anymore.


I dont know man, its really a toss up for them now....A LOT is riding on Boston to really make it synch correctly before the playoffs....Its a questionable gamble to acquire players for their future NOW during their last big championship run, while also letting go of key players on their current roster...


If they lose out on that gamble.....Boston fans will want to kill Danny Ainge.

[LA_Showtime]

I'm super angry right now. Right. I'm not even a Celtics or Thunder fan, I don't give a crap. I just find it funny that everyone and their mother thinks this Kwame Brown clone is something special. I don't see anyone sweating Kwame Brown deals.

I disagree on that last part. The Gasol trade is still brought up on a daily basis.

[DeronMillsap]

If Boston makes some other moves here, by acquisition of some players via buyouts and such, this miiiiiiiiiiiiiiight not be too bad for them.


I mean Green and Kristic arent THAT fu*king bad. They just need to fill some spots with available players, which Im eager to see if they plan to do.



And truly, does anyone miss Nate? I feel like he was the odd man out there in Boston.


Also, alot is riding on the health of Shaq at this point man.

Green is a good pick up and he'll probably be the best bench guy along with Davis on the C's.

However, there's a huge gaping hole at the 5 spot.

Shaq, J'O, Krstic(= Big Z) as their center pieces? REALLY????

[StroShow4]

You think it's a wonderful trade, that doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you.

I highly doubt this trade makes Boston better. The best case scenario is we manage to play at the same level on defense. I don't see how we get much better offensively after losing half our bench. Green's numbers will definitely go down.

The only guy Boston lost that can put a ball in the basket is Nate Robinson... and he couldn't do that this year. Their defense will still be great, their offense gets much better, and I think they make an overall improvement.

Keep in mind that these empty spaces are going to get filled. Troy Murphy is probably on his way. I'll take him over Semih Erden or Luke Harrangody.

[oh the horror]

However, there's a huge gaping hole at the 5 spot.

Shaq, J'O, Krstic(= Big Z) as their center pieces? REALLY????



This is what concerns me right now for Boston...


A TON of it now, is depending on the health of JO and Shaq....two dudes that have been in and out of the lineup all season with injuries?


Jermaine O'Neal as of now, seems to have absolutely nothing left in the tank. Dude is a corpse out there.



And Shaq will be Shaq, but dude MUST be ready for the playoffs, and for the ENTIRE playoffs for them to have a chance, imo.



And THEN, Boston let go of there other bigs as well if im not mistaken? Whew.

[caliman]

They got away with shit centre by committee for 40 games due to having 4 all stars.

Shit centre by committtee doesnt work in a the playoffs where you only play elite teams often with talented bigs. there are no games against the wizards and the Kings in the playoffs.


Quoted for truth

[StroShow4]

Kwame Brown? Really?

Yeah really. Watch Kwame play. His post defense is awesome, although the refs give him the shaft every night. He has bad hands and moves kinda slow, similar to Perkins. He has no post moves, like Perkins. He can't shoot, like Perkins. He isn't a particularly great shot blocker, like Perkins.


Great man defenders, liabilities on offense. One was drafted first overall and didn't live up to the hype, therefore he sucks. The other was taken much later in the draft and has played the majority of his career with a bunch of HOFers. He's filled a role on a championship team, causing all of you to overrate him to a ridiculous degree.

[Bosnian Sajo]

The thing I dont understand is why did they trade Erhden and LH for a 2nd rounder??? THAT was just stupid, Perkins deal is ook.

[StroShow4]

The thing I dont understand is why did they trade Erhden and LH for a 2nd rounder??? THAT was just stupid, Perkins deal is ook.

Clearing space to sign a much better player.

[bih]

Shaq, J'O, Krstic(= Big Z) as their center pieces? REALLY????


this is what doesn't make any sense by boston


shaq and jermaine are not the healthiest bunch in the league

krstic is soft he will get out muscled every time on the floor

[icewill36]

anybody else think the Thunder should start Harden like me? without Green they need a 3rd scoring option in their starting lineup

this seems to be the general consensus, but who knows if it will ever actually happen.

[oh the horror]

The thing I dont understand is why did they trade Erhden and LH for a 2nd rounder??? THAT was just stupid, Perkins deal is ook.


Im of the belief that they HAVE TO BE working on picking up some players still available out there. There is no way in hell they left roster spots open for nothing.

[LA KB24]

Has Ainge lost it? What the F*CK?

[DeronMillsap]

Sheed has to be the reason for the Erden and 'Gody trade. Boston fans were saying he's been around the team facility all season long too.

[jasonresno]

Sheed has to be the reason for the Erden and 'Gody trade. Boston fans were saying he's been around the team facility all season long too.
[quote]But Sheed told Larry Ridley, sports anchor at the NBC 7 affiliate in Boston, that he

[TrueRob]

Boston had the best defense in the league and was owning the top eastern teams long before Perk came back. LOL @ people saying they can't win it all because of this trade. Now they have a better perimeter defender with Green, which is what they needed. Plus, Doc likes to go with a Big Baby-KG front line down the stretch because of Baby's scoring ability.

[Borat]

Yeah really. Watch Kwame play. His post defense is awesome, although the refs give him the shaft every night. He has bad hands and moves kinda slow, similar to Perkins. He has no post moves, like Perkins. He can't shoot, like Perkins. He isn't a particularly great shot blocker, like Perkins.


Great man defenders, liabilities on offense. One was drafted first overall and didn't live up to the hype, therefore he sucks. The other was taken much later in the draft and has played the majority of his career with a bunch of HOFers. He's filled a role on a championship team, causing all of you to overrate him to a ridiculous degree.


The difference between Perk and Kwame is that Perk is smart, tough, plays within himself better, is stronger, is a better post defender and team defender, understands winning (perhaps not Kwame's fault), is a better locker room presence, has extensive championship/playoff experience and is respected by opponents.

All these things are undervalued/misunderstood by most fans but are extremely important when it comes to being a good centre/winner.

[StroShow4]

The difference between Perk and Kwame is that Perk is smart, tough, plays within himself better, is stronger, is a better post defender and team defender, understands winning (perhaps not Kwame's fault), is a better locker room presence, has extensive championship/playoff experience and is respected by opponents.

I disagree with everything in bold. Kendrick plays within himself? I see him trying to make post moves and throwing up some of the ugliest hook shots I've ever seen every time he plays. Kendrick is stronger than Kwame? Nah, Kwame's a f@ckin' tank. Kendrick is smart? Eh...... no.

[dazzer87]

I see him trying to make post moves and throwing up some of the ugliest hook shots I've ever seen every time he plays.

sounds like that hack of center we have here in LA......

[Borat]

I disagree with everything in bold. Kendrick plays within himself? I see him trying to make post moves and throwing up some of the ugliest hook shots I've ever seen every time he plays. Kendrick is stronger than Kwame? Nah, Kwame's a f@ckin' tank. Kendrick is smart? Eh...... no.

Perkins takes about 6 shots a game. At times he has to make moves due to shot clock situation/making the defence guard you. He definitely plays within himself.

I haven't personally seen them have a bench press comp, but in terms of basketball Kendrick uses his strength much better than Kwame and is a large man himself (no homo).

Kendrick has a very high IQ - ask a Celtic.

I also believe everyone GM in basketball takes Kendrick over Kwame. No doubt.

Then there is the 5 points that you didn't bold. Very valuable aspects to a players game.

[AJ2k8]

This really comes across as something the GM's found on the trade finder on 2k:lol

When i saw the headline Green to Celtics i knew Perkins was the only one OKC would touch but it's quite a ballsy move to say the least:cheers:

[StroShow4]

Perkins takes about 6 shots a game.

That's six too many. :oldlol:

Seriously, how many times has he been stuffed trying to finish dunks that should've been uncontested because he has to do a five-second wind up in order to jump high enough to slam the ball. The guy is a liability on offense. That is obvious.



Kendrick has a very high IQ - ask a Celtic.

I've heard the motherf@cker talk on numerous occasions and I'd beg to differ. He sounds as dumb as a brick. I know you're referring to his basketball IQ... I suppose he's a pretty smart defender, but offensively he's a moron. Sets tons of moving picks, makes stupid passes, etc.