Dwayne Wade 08-09 vs Kobe Bryant 05-06 NBA Season

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

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Lets Go!!


Who had the better NBA Season?


Is it Kobe Bryant aka the Black Mamba aka 5 rings?


Or is Dwayne Wade aka D-Wade aka Beasley Robin?:D Had to mention my Boy.




Mister Dwayne Wade
http://cheapseatsplease.files.wordpress.com/2010/06/wadepeople.jpg
Dwayne Wade 2008-2009 NBA Season Miami Heat Record:42-37(with Wade in the line-up)
Stats: 30.2PPG 7.5APG 5RPG 2.2SPG 1.3BPG 0.491FG%
Playoff Stats 7 Games: 29.1PPG 5RPG 5.3APG .43%
Season High: 55Points in the final game of the regular season:rolleyes:
50p+ 3times that season
40p+ 10times that season
30p+ 26times that season
20 Double-Doubles
Accomplishments: Scoring Champ, ASG, All NBA First Team, All NBA Defensive team.(Finished 3rd in MVP Voting but received the 2nd most first place votes

The Best Season for Dwayne. He was arguably the best player that year and led the Miami Heat with rookie Superstar Michael Beasley and rookie coach Sprestra to the Playoffs agaisnt the Hawks. (Hawks beat the Heat in 7games)The season was really memorable because the season before that Wade had injury problems and wasn't the same........


Kobe Bryant
http://www.nba.com/media/lakers/09kobe_bench_pregame.jpg
Kobe Bryant 2005-2006 NBA Season Los Angeles Lakers Record 45-35 (Wit Kobe in the line-up)
Stats:35.4PPG 5.3RPG 4.5APG 1.8SPG 0.5BPG .45FG%
Playoff Stats 7 Games: 27.9PPG 6.3RPG 5.1APG .49FG%
Season High 81 Points....................agaisnt the Raptors :rolleyes:
50+ 6times that season
40+ 21times that season
30+ 29times that season
4 Double Doubles
Accomplishments: Scoring Champ, ASG, All NBA First Team, All NBA Defensive Team. Had the highest scoring average since Michael Jordan. Finished 4th in MVP voting but had the second most first place votes

Is there anything to be said about this season Kobe put up? Dude was a beast, and easily the league best player. Scoring on anyone and everywhere. Team usually triple teammed him so he couldn't go off...............didnt work thou


So Who You Got?:pimp:

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Both were 27 years old as well :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Bigsmoke]

Kobe's season by far

not saying Wade's season wasnt amazing but Kobe season single handedly got people from flatout hating him to this NBA Hero.

the man scored 81 points for crying out loud and did u see his PPG in each month?

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Kobe's season by far
why?

[LEFT4DEAD]

Wade's season, and it's not even close!

[Batz]

05-06 Kobe. That guy was just straight out legendary. Wish he stuck around.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Wade's season, and it's not even close!

why?

[Walduś]

Kobe. 27 40+ point games. :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[kaiiu]

Kobe- 06. Easily

[Papaya Petee]

Wade. All Around play + defense > Kobe's scoring and low %

[Bigsmoke]

why?

He had a better regular season and playoffs series than Wade.

only Heat fans thought that Wade was robbed for the MVP that season while ****ing there were players ON the Phoenix Suns who thought that Kobe should have took that MVP that year. :confusedshrug:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hJuAyQkpI

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

He had a better season and playoffs series than Wade.

only Heat fans thought that Wade was robbed for the MVP that season. There were players ON the Suns who thought that Kobe should have took that MVP that year. :confusedshrug:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hJuAyQkpI

yeah I just wanted to see some explanation bra.

I do believe his season was better too.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Who here loves how I did it?

It looks like prime OnceInADECADE like threads :bowdown: :oldlol: :bowdown:

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Wade. All Around play + defense > Kobe's scoring and low %
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Papaya Petee]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
Beasley bench player LOL.

Why make a thread if you don't accept opinions.. ***.

[StacksOnDeck]

Kobe had a legendary season with legendary performances.

[LEFT4DEAD]

why?
Kobe's game was based just on jacking up tons of shots on low fg%. That's it!
Wade's game was a lot more all around, 20 fcking double- doubles to just 4 Kobe's.

He was better defender that year than Kobe ever was. I will remember a lot more Wade's performances than Kobe's. For ex., classic buzzer beater vs Chicago, 3 OT win vs Utah, 35pts, 16ast vs Suns (I remember even stats) classic shows vs Lebron's Cavs etc etc.

And Kobe has that one 81 points game and that's it. Wade could get those 40 point games on any given night, but he was just too much more all around player than Kobe was.

And all that at the time he was playing with two rookies in the starting lineup. Take out Wade from that team and they will not win more than 7 games.
:bowdown:

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Beasley bench player LOL.

Why make a thread if you don't accept opinions.. ***.

What kind of explantion is that?

Wade all-around > Kobe ?:facepalm :hammerhead: :violin:

[beermonsteroo]

Wade and it's not even close.

Kobe was ballhogging and shot jacking, but he wasn't efective nor succesfull.

[beermonsteroo]

Kobe had a legendary season with legendary performances.

:facepalm

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Kobe's game was based just on jacking up tons of shots on low fg%. That's it!
Wade game was a lot more all around, 20 fck double- doubles to just 4 Kobe's.

He was better defender that year than Kobe ever was. I will remember a lot more Wade's performances than Kobe's. For ex., classic buzzer beater vs Chicago, 3 OT win vs Utah, 35pts, 16ast vs Suns (I remember even stats) classic shows vs Lebron's Cavs etc etc.

And Kobe has that one 81 points game and that's it. Wade could get those 40 point games on any given night, but he was just too much more all around player than Kobe was.

And all that at the time he was playing with two rookies in the starting lineup. Take out Wade from that team and they will not win more than 7 games.
:bowdown:

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm dude had a better record that year than Wade.

While playing in a tougher conference:bowdown:

He had Smush Parker as a starter as well as Kwame Brown I believe or Chris Mihm :facepalm

And Remember that game where he dropped like 60 in only 3 quarters?

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Wade and it's not even close.

Kobe was ballhogging and shot jacking, but he wasn't efective nor succesfull.

The Lakers had a better team record than Miami

45-35 > 42-39

Kobe had Chris Mimh and Smush Parker as starters and wasn't Luke a starter as well? ROFL:oldlol: :oldlol:

[beermonsteroo]

Both were 27 years old as well :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
:wtf: :wtf:
Wade was 23/24

[madmax]

Wade's season by far:bowdown:
Dude was spectacular

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

:wtf: :wtf:
Wade was 23/24

What is this?

I talking bout those season you faggett

Kobe was 27 in 05-06
and
Wade was 27 in 08-09

BTW Damn Kobe is young :bowdown:

[kaiiu]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm dude had a better record that year than Wade.

While playing in a tougher conference:bowdown:

He had Smush Parker as a starter as well as Kwame Brown I believe or Chris Mihm :facepalm

And Remember that game where he dropped like 60 in only 3 quarters?
he couldnt even beat a Hawks team that every one else swept aside with ease:oldlol: :oldlol:

[midatlantic09]

Bean Bryant

[Walduś]

Kobe's game was based just on jacking up tons of shots on low fg%. That's it!
Wade's game was a lot more all around, 20 fcking double- doubles to just 4 Kobe's.

He was better defender that year than Kobe ever was. I will remember a lot more Wade's performances than Kobe's. For ex., classic buzzer beater vs Chicago, 3 OT win vs Utah, 35pts, 16ast vs Suns (I remember even stats) classic shows vs Lebron's Cavs etc etc.

And Kobe has that one 81 points game and that's it. Wade could get those 40 point games on any given night, but he was just too much more all around player than Kobe was.

And all that at the time he was playing with two rookies in the starting lineup. Take out Wade from that team and they will not win more than 7 games.
:bowdown:
wade = 0 all defense first teams

kobe = 8 all defense first teams

[Phong]

Awww! The year of Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Brian Cook and Chris Mihm.

So many fond memories... http://www.gamerama.fr/forum/img/smilies/smiley39.gif

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

he couldnt even beat a Hawks team that every one else swept aside with ease:oldlol: :oldlol:

ROFL that team was pretty good :oldlol:

But Bron did raped them

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Awww! The year of Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Brian Cook and Chris Mihm.

So many fond memories... http://www.gamerama.fr/forum/img/smilies/smiley39.gif
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

47 wins along the way :bowdown:

[LEFT4DEAD]

:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm dude had a better record that year than Wade.

While playing in a tougher conference:bowdown:

He had Smush Parker as a starter as well as Kwame Brown I believe or Chris Mihm :facepalm

And Remember that game where he dropped like 60 in only 3 quarters?
When your team is pure shit like that, it's not even important against who do you playing. It's a pain every game, and you must gave up everything to win. So that falls into the water.

Second, I would take 2005/06 Smush Parker over any version of Chalmers. Parker was not that bad of a player as I can remember. And Kwame was not force offensievly but he was hell good on D.

And yeah, I remember that game. I think it was against Dallas. You have to tell me that again tomorrow. I will forgot.

[TinselTime12]

I say Kobe's '07-'08 season beats both of these seasons the OP listed. Shit, I think it is arguable that Kobe's '08-'09 season was better than Wade's '08-'09 season.

[kaiiu]

ROFL that team was pretty good :oldlol:

But Bron did raped them
yeah rite. A Bogutless Bucks almost took them out last year:oldlol: they have some of the worst IQ players ever on that team:facepalm

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

When your team is pure shit like that, it's not even important against who do you playing. It's a pain every game, and you must gave up everything to win. So that falls into the water.

Second, I would take 2005/06 Smush Parker over any version of Chalmers. Parker was not that bad of a player as I can remember. And Kwame was not force offensievly but he was hell good on D.

And yeah, I remember that game. I think it was against Dallas. You have to tell me that again tomorrow. I will forgot.

Heat Roster > Lakers and its not even close

Haslem, Beasley, Chamlers, Marion should I keep going?

Odom...............17 years young Bynum

[LEFT4DEAD]

wade = 0 all defense first teams

kobe = 8 all defense first teams
And that is telling you just one thing. All defense teams are biggest joke after Stern in the last 20 years.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

I say Kobe's '07-'08 season beats both of these seasons the OP listed. Shit, I think it is arguable that Kobe's '08-'09 season was better than Wade's '08-'09 season.

:eek: :eek: :eek:

05-06 Was Kobe best season IMO

his 02-03 or 06-07 are arguable

[AirTupac]

Awww! The year of Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, Brian Cook and Chris Mihm.

So many fond memories... http://www.gamerama.fr/forum/img/smilies/smiley39.gif

O god...

Anyways, I'll take Kobe. Like others said, it was legendary. You should remove the rolling eyes beside the 81 point game though. It's 81 points regardless. If it was so easy, why didn't anyone else go off like that against the Raptors. But thats a different conversation.

[kaiiu]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

05-06 Was Kobe best season IMO

his 02-03 or 06-07 are arguable
my fav Kobe seasons are

05-06
08-09
02-03
07-08
06-07

[TinselTime12]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

05-06 Was Kobe best season IMO

his 02-03 or 06-07 are arguable
I was more impressed with his '07-'08 season and '08-'09. '05-'06 was his best scoring season by far. But factor in all-around play and winning, '07-'08 or '08-'09 were his best seasons.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

O god...

Anyways, I'll take Kobe. Like others said, it was legendary. You should remove the rolling eyes beside the 81 point game though. It's 81 points regardless. If it was so easy, why didn't anyone else go off like that against the Raptors. But thats a different conversation.

chill bro. The Raptors were beaten up and he still went in.

[LEFT4DEAD]

Heat Roster > Lakers and its not even close

Haslem, Beasley, Chamlers, Marion should I keep going?

Odom...............17 years young Bynum
Haslem was only decent player on that team. Everyone else- *****. Kobe had good player in Odom, and very good defensive team overall. And Marion was traded after half of a season if I remember.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

I was more impressed with his '07-'08 season and '08-'09. '05-'06 was his best scoring season by far. But factor in all-around play and winning, '07-'08 or '08-'09 were his best seasons.

I like it when Kobe is in chuckfest mode.

That is my favorite when he is in his prime thou:applause:

[Bigsmoke]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

05-06 Was Kobe best season IMO

his 02-03 or 06-07 are arguable

why whats with Kobe 2008 season?

overall, Kobe to me was more complete as a playing in 2008 than he was in 2003. Kobe was more dominate against that Spurs that year than he was in 2003 as well.

[Bigsmoke]

I was more impressed with his '07-'08 season and '08-'09. '05-'06 was his best scoring season by far. But factor in all-around play and winning, '07-'08 or '08-'09 were his best seasons.

you beat me to it

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Haslem was only decent player on that team. Everyone else- *****. Kobe had good player in Odom, and very good defensive team overall. And Marion was traded after half of a season if I remember.

:facepalm Go to sleep

Beasley was better than Haslem that season his defense and experience was the only thing holding him back from being a 37mpg player that year.

Chamlers was sick. I remember Mario was getting alot of hype as well cuz he came from the 2nd round.

Yeah Marion was traded for JO

ROFL @ Pat saying Wade was MJ and Marion was Pippen:facepalm

+ they had Cook

[Walduś]

he couldnt even beat a Hawks team that every one else swept aside with ease:oldlol: :oldlol:
this

5th seed losing to a 4th seed without a superstar on the team is just embarrassing.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

why whats with Kobe 2008 season?

overall, Kobe to me was more complete as a playing in 2008 than he was in 2003. Kobe was more dominate against that Spurs that year than he was in 2003 as well.

MVP season I believe.

But the 05-06 is best and nothing is close IMO

[LEFT4DEAD]

I was more impressed with his '07-'08 season and '08-'09. '05-'06 was his best scoring season by far. But factor in all-around play and winning, '07-'08 or '08-'09 were his best seasons.
Even if you put pic of your head between Kobe's legs on your avatar, it will not be more obvious you are his d1ckrider than after this post.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

this

5th seed losing to a 4th seed without a superstar on the team is just embarrassing.

:facepalm
they had pretty good players.

Joe Johnson
Josh Smith
Al Horford

:bowdown:

[Bigsmoke]

he couldnt even beat a Hawks team that every one else swept aside with ease:oldlol: :oldlol:

Lebron teamates didnt play that much better than Wade's.

Lebron was just better.

[LEFT4DEAD]

:facepalm Go to sleep

Beasley was better than Haslem that season his defense and experience was the only thing holding him back from being a 37mpg player that year.

Chamlers was sick. I remember Mario was getting alot of hype as well cuz he came from the 2nd round.

Yeah Marion was traded for JO

ROFL @ Pat saying Wade was MJ and Marion was Pippen:facepalm

+ they had Cook
No, I was just kiddin'. I knew it was all about Beasley's rookie season that you think was destroyed along with his career cause of playing with Wade that year. :violin:

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mgksq3ShJyU

This is what I'M talking bout :bowdown: :bowdown:

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

No, I was just kiddin'. I knew it was all about Beasley's rookie season that you think was destroyed along with his career cause of playing with Wade that year. :violin:

playing along side a 30point scorer can hinder a rookies career.

If Rose was drafted by the Heat he will not be the player he is today same goes for Westbrook and Eric Gordon

[Bigsmoke]

playing along side a 30point scorer can hinder a rookies career.

If Rose was drafted by the Heat he will not be the player he is today same goes for Westbrook and Eric Gordon

what do u think about the new Raekwon?

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

what do u think about the new Raekwon?

never heard the album yet.

Just listened to Shaolin vs Wu Tang :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Vid is sick

[LEFT4DEAD]

playing along side a 30point scorer can hinder a rookies career.

If Rose was drafted by the Heat he will not be the player he is today same goes for Westbrook and Eric Gordon
Westbrook was playing with biggest ball hog in the league, Durant.

If Beasley is any better than that season with Wade, why is Minny struggling to win just 20 games with him and double double machine Love, and good overall team? He is just dumbass and too lazy, and will be one of the biggest wastes of talent of all time.

[Bigsmoke]

never heard the album yet.

Just listened to Shaolin vs Wu Tang :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

Vid is sick

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=211116

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Westbrook was playing with biggest ball hog in the league, Durant.

If Beasley is any better than that season with Wade, why is Minny struggling to win just 20 games with him and double double machine Love, and good overall team? He is just dumbass and too lazy, and will be one of the biggest wastes of talent of all time.

Did Westbrook get to play threw his struggles?

Umm Yeah

Beasley didnt

Is Durant ball dominate?

umm no

Westbrook has the ball in his hands more often

Wade has the ball in his hand 24/7

Beasley gets touches when Wade cant do jack.

How much minutes did Westbrook have in his rookie season?

Beasley had 25mpg and averaged 12/5 ...................... Beasley per36 averaged 20/8

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

bump

[XxSMSxX]

:facepalm Go to sleep

Beasley was better than Haslem that season his defense and experience was the only thing holding him back from being a 37mpg player that year.

Chamlers was sick. I remember Mario was getting alot of hype as well cuz he came from the 2nd round.

Yeah Marion was traded for JO

ROFL @ Pat saying Wade was MJ and Marion was Pippen:facepalm

+ they had Cook


This is precisely why he wasn't better than Haslem that year

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

This is precisely why he wasn't better than Haslem that year
Rofl

Haslem defensive game is overrated any ways

Btw beasley offensive game >>>> Haslem career and it's not even funny
12/5 in only 25mpg :bowdown:

[Papaya Petee]

OIAD, I have a honest question for you. Why would you make this thread and in the first post act as if you don't know then do whatever it takes to make fun of those who took Wade?

Kobe- Insane Scoring, horrible teammates.
Wade- Great scoring, great playmaking, better rebounder, defender, and had horrible teammates too.

It's definitely debatable

I think you're just mad because Beasley did drugs while playing for the Heat, while being an inefficient scorer who played 0 defense and did not rebound. He was the reason Celtics shit on us in the playoffs, and his 10 PPG playoff resume wasn't impressive, and have fun not making it with Minnesota.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

OIAD, I have a honest question for you. Why would you make this thread and in the first post act as if you don't know then do whatever it takes to make fun of those who took Wade?

Kobe- Insane Scoring, horrible teammates.
Wade- Great scoring, great playmaking, better rebounder, defender, and had horrible teammates too.

It's definitely debatable

I think you're just mad because Beasley did drugs while playing for the Heat, while being an inefficient scorer who played 0 defense and did not rebound. He was the reason Celtics shit on us in the playoffs, and his 10 PPG playoff resume wasn't impressive, and have fun not making it with Minnesota.

Just want to see opinions and shhiit why you mad thou?

I remember people were stating that prime Wade which was 08-09 was better than any version of Kobe which I disagree with so I had to make this thread.



Kobe- Insane Scoring, horrible teammates.
Wade- Great scoring, great playmaking, better rebounder, defender, and had horrible teammates too.

I dont like that Myth of Wade having horrible teammates that year. Very suspect when you had a player who could easily give you 22/7 a night. Chamlers was very serviceable as well + Marion was there, Haslem and JO.


I think you're just mad because Beasley did drugs while playing for the Heat, while being an inefficient scorer who played 0 defense and did not rebound. He was the reason Celtics shit on us in the playoffs, and his 10 PPG playoff resume wasn't impressive, and have fun not making it with Minnesota.

Were discussing the 08-09 season which was Beasley second season bra. Beasley averaged 12/5 that season .................. in only 25mpg .................. per 36 is 20/8 and this is playing "WADE BALL"

[G-Funk]

- On December 12, 2005 when Kobe Bryant went to the bench at the end of the third quarter, he had just netted a Lakers record 30 points in that quarter. But even better, he had 62 points, his career high by then and one more than the hole Dallas team. It was Kobe 62, Mavericks 61, the only time a player has done this through three quarters since the advent of the 24-second shot clock. With the Lakers up by 34 points, Bryant didn't play in the 4th quarter.

- On January 22, 2006 Bryant made history scoring 81 points in a 122-104 victory against the Toronto Raptors. It was the second best point total in NBA history, trailing only Wilt Chamberlain's legendary 100-point game in 1962. It broke the previous Lakers record of 71 set by Elgin Baylor.


- In January, Bryant became the first player since 1964 to score 45 points or more in four consecutive games. Only Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor did that before.

- In January, Bryant averaged 43.4 per game, the 8th highest single month scoring average in NBA history and the highest for any player other than Chamberlain.

- In 2005-06 Kobe Bryant set Lakers single-season franchise records for the most 40-point games (27) and most points scored (2,832), among others.

- Kobe Bryant had the highest scoring average (35.4) since Michael Jordan's 37.1 in 1986-87.

[G-Funk]

Kobe had a historic season.

Wade had a great season.

[Papaya Petee]

Just want to see opinions and shhiit why you mad thou?

I remember people were stating that prime Wade which was 08-09 was better than any version of Kobe which I disagree with so I had to make this thread.



I dont like that Myth of Wade having horrible teammates that year. Very suspect when you had a player who could easily give you 22/7 a night. Chamlers was very serviceable as well + Marion was there, Haslem and JO.



Were discussing the 08-09 season which was Beasley second season bra. Beasley averaged 12/5 that season .................. in only 25mpg .................. per 36 is 20/8 and this is playing "WADE BALL"

Per 36 is the most retarded measure ever. He only got 25 MPG because he wasn't that great. He didn't rebound, he played little defense, and brought the offense out of rhythm. Beasley wasn't and won't be a post player, we already had Wade being the 5x better slasher.

He could give you 22\7 every night? Then how come he didn't do it? Chalmers averaged 10\4\3 on 40% shooting and he was a rookie give me a break. Shawn Marion and Jermaine O'Neal were average at best and still lacked. Udonis Haslem was the 2nd best player.

Like I said, its very debetable, both had their strenghts and weaknesses. I just prefer an all-around game then shooting 27 FGA per game.

[kaiiu]

- On December 12, 2005 when Kobe Bryant went to the bench at the end of the third quarter, he had just netted a Lakers record 30 points in that quarter. But even better, he had 62 points, his career high by then and one more than the hole Dallas team. It was Kobe 62, Mavericks 61, the only time a player has done this through three quarters since the advent of the 24-second shot clock. With the Lakers up by 34 points, Bryant didn't play in the 4th quarter.

- On January 22, 2006 Bryant made history scoring 81 points in a 122-104 victory against the Toronto Raptors. It was the second best point total in NBA history, trailing only Wilt Chamberlain's legendary 100-point game in 1962. It broke the previous Lakers record of 71 set by Elgin Baylor.


- In January, Bryant became the first player since 1964 to score 45 points or more in four consecutive games. Only Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor did that before.

- In January, Bryant averaged 43.4 per game, the 8th highest single month scoring average in NBA history and the highest for any player other than Chamberlain.

- In 2005-06 Kobe Bryant set Lakers single-season franchise records for the most 40-point games (27) and most points scored (2,832), among others.

- Kobe Bryant had the highest scoring average (35.4) since Michael Jordan's 37.1 in 1986-87.
:bowdown:

[thatoneblackguy]

Kobe

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Per 36 is the most retarded measure ever. He only got 25 MPG because he wasn't that great. He didn't rebound, he played little defense, and brought the offense out of rhythm. Beasley wasn't and won't be a post player, we already had Wade being the 5x better slasher.

He could give you 22\7 every night? Then how come he didn't do it? Chalmers averaged 10\4\3 on 40% shooting and he was a rookie give me a break. Shawn Marion and Jermaine O'Neal were average at best and still lacked. Udonis Haslem was the 2nd best player.

Like I said, its very debetable, both had their strenghts and weaknesses. I just prefer an all-around game then shooting 27 FGA per game.


:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL ROFL

Did you watch the Heat games that season?

Get your head off Wade butt!!!

12/5 for a player averaging 25mpg is amazing:bowdown:

Name me another player who did that?.................... I waiting

So many fails in your post bra.

Beasley was playing 25mpg and you expect him to get 12rebounds what the f is this.

Beasley is easily the most underrated rebounder in the league. The Heat slowpaced offense doesnt show you how great a rebounder Beasley really is. He is arguably the best put-back dunker in the game and thats by getting to the ball.

His defense was very suspect, yes I know. But its not like Haslem was a KG type of defender. The overration of Haslem has to end.

Brought the offense out of rhythm :facepalm :wtf:

Wont be a post player? Are you watching Minnesota games ROFL @ THIS POSTER

It cuz of Spo. Did you see what Beasley averaged w/o Wade? Damn Lack Of kNOWLEDGE POSTERS

[Scholar]

Kobe's 2005-06 season was the greatest individual season I've ever seen since MJ retired. Yes, I am actually comparing Kobe to MJ. I must be the first person in history to ever do that!
:banana:
Anyway, I wasn't interested in the NBA for a couple of years after Shaq & Kobe fell apart, but I gave the 2005-06 season a try, just to get back into the NBA. It was an amazing season! Kobe, LeBron & AI all averaged 31 or more ppg; Steve Nash once again proved that he could be on the list as one of the best PGs in history; the NYK fell apart with pretty much an All-Star backcourt (Marbury & Francis); Shaq played Robin to DWade all the way to the NBA Finals; the Mavs were screwed out of a championship; Kobe dropped 81 pts on the Raptors; Kobe outscored an entire team, 62-61, by dropping 62 pts in 3 quarters against the Mavs; and there weren't any super teams to worry about ruining the league for smaller town teams.
Kobe's season, hands down.
And the 2005-06 season is the best of the decade, imo.

[LA KB24]

OIAD, I have a honest question for you. Why would you make this thread and in the first post act as if you don't know then do whatever it takes to make fun of those who took Wade?

Kobe- Insane Scoring, horrible teammates.
Wade- Great scoring, great playmaking, better rebounder, defender, and had horrible teammates too.

It's definitely debatable

I think you're just mad because Beasley did drugs while playing for the Heat, while being an inefficient scorer who played 0 defense and did not rebound. He was the reason Celtics shit on us in the playoffs, and his 10 PPG playoff resume wasn't impressive, and have fun not making it with Minnesota.

Wade a better defender than prime Kobe?

[olddangerfield]

Kobe had a way better season... 81 points.. 63-62 vs Mavs, scoring 40+ in 11 straight games.. truly epic stuff.

[Heat007]

Kobe always resembled an old Jordan while Wade resembled a younger Jordan.

Kobe relied more on his shooting where Wade resembled a younger Jordan with all his drives to the basket and his terrific play off the dribble. How he can get to the basket in such a variety of ways and make shots from all sorts of angles.

We all know jordan got mad popular because of his awesome drives to the basket, not because of his shooting when he got older.

If I want to see a good shooter, I don't need to see Kobe, there are plenty of others I'd rather watch like Ray Allen etc etc etc.. But Wade is one of a kind when he entered the league and since.

And kobe's FG% leaves quite a bit to be desired anyway. That guy pumps his point totals by shooting more than anyone in the league. He;s very lucky to be playing in LA with that media attention and all those great teams that the lakers had.. If he was on any other team besides NY or LA, like let's say the clippers or nuggets for example, there would be a unanimous vote on who the better player is.

And that would EASILY be Wade.

Wade is the more versatile and dynamic player who can really rebound, can post up which is amazing for a guy his height, make amazing plays with steals and blocks for a guy who's only 6 foot 4.. who is a lot more fun to watch.... and a player who can beat you in more ways.

Wade plays a lot bigger than he is.. Kobe doesn't.

Wade > Kobe

Wade is the superior and better talent.

The only reason kobe has more rings is because he's been on far superior supporting casts. Wade wins all those titles with those chicago bulls teams jordan had and those laker teams kobe had. Basketball is a team game after all.

Kobe had Shaq in his prime years. Wade had a slightly older Shaq who wasn't the same dominant force he was during his time in LA.. anyone could have seen that. And Wade won a title with a not so dominant Shaq. And Wade was only in his 3rd year looking like a true legend owning the court... breaking playoff records. And was just as dominant in his first 2 years in the league before that. If you followed all the games, the early years of Wade's career was what legends are made of... legendary.

The one area where Kobe was better is staying healthy. He has done a better job avoiding injuries. But on a pure talent basis it's Wade > Kobe.

[STATFresh6]

05-06 Kobe. Just legendary. 08-09 Wade ain't no slouch either. 05-06 Kobe was just too good to ignore.

[Jacks3]

Kobe easily.

Think about this. He took a team of Odom/Smush/Kwame Brown/Smush Parker/Mihm and had them 7th in ORTG in the league. Amazing.

35/5/5/2/56% TS and he did a amazing job of not turning the ball over--9% TO rate.

27 40+ point games
8 50+ point games
81 points in one game
62 points in three quarters
4 straight 45+ point games
Averaged 40+ PPG for the entire month of January and April
Scored more points in one season than anybody in history not named Wilt or Jordan.
All-NBA 1st Team
All-NBA 1st Team Defense

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[f0und]

wade's 08-09 season was historical also. i read something where it was the only season(i think) in nba history that had that combination of 30+ points, 5+ rebs, 7+ assts, 2+ stls, and 1+ blocks.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

They're both good debatable either way.
Wade did pump out 7.5 assists a game verses Kobe's 4.5.
Kobe plays in a tougher conference, and had even worse teammates. Beasley and Jermaine O'Neal weren't even bad! Smush, Chris Mihm, Kwame Brown, Luke Walton? Kobe had a worst supporting cast clearly, but the Lakers finished with a better record. So Kobe essentially did more with less, as they faced the 2nd seeded Phoenix Suns, who was an elite team at that time. The heat faced the shitty Atlanta Hawks, both Kobe and Wade got knocked out in 7.

But in the end, I have to take Kobe.
And because of these:

- On December 12, 2005 when Kobe Bryant went to the bench at the end of the third quarter, he had just netted a Lakers record 30 points in that quarter. But even better, he had 62 points, his career high by then and one more than the hole Dallas team. It was Kobe 62, Mavericks 61, the only time a player has done this through three quarters since the advent of the 24-second shot clock. With the Lakers up by 34 points, Bryant didn't play in the 4th quarter.

- On January 22, 2006 Bryant made history scoring 81 points in a 122-104 victory against the Toronto Raptors. It was the second best point total in NBA history, trailing only Wilt Chamberlain's legendary 100-point game in 1962. It broke the previous Lakers record of 71 set by Elgin Baylor.


- In January, Bryant became the first player since 1964 to score 45 points or more in four consecutive games. Only Chamberlain and Elgin Baylor did that before.

- In January, Bryant averaged 43.4 per game, the 8th highest single month scoring average in NBA history and the highest for any player other than Chamberlain.

- In 2005-06 Kobe Bryant set Lakers single-season franchise records for the most 40-point games (27) and most points scored (2,832), among others.

- Kobe Bryant had the highest scoring average (35.4) since Michael Jordan's 37.1 in 1986-87.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Wade. All Around play + defense > Kobe's scoring and low %

Kobe played defense also....and Kobe's FG% isn't low, it's average which is understandable considering he is a perimeter player. 45% FG% would be low for a guy that plays close to the basket like a C or PF but it's pretty decent for a perimeter player like a guard

[Disaprine]

both were just as good as the other. :applause:

[ginobli2311]

both were just as good as the other. :applause:

yea, both were great.

i actually think kobe's total season was better though. the only problem with kobe's season was game 7. not that they lost, but what he did and how he acted.

if kobe just goes down in that game without an agenda i think this conversation would be kind of silly. Kobe had a worse team and had a historic season and coupled that with success in both the regular season and playoffs.

but as usual, kobe has to do something that pisses off people outside of Laker nation.

I remember is pulling so hard for the lakers in that series and after kobe missed the series winnner in game 6, i think he thought it was over. And he used the excuse of being down at halftime even though he had played well to completely change his game for the 2nd half. just a really really weak move by a great player and leader.

i mean, 1 assist and only like 2 2nd half points in a game 7? come on. that was a shame.

but remove that 2nd half and i think kobe easily had the better season. he was amazing.

[Disaprine]

yea, both were great.

i actually think kobe's total season was better though. the only problem with kobe's season was game 7. not that they lost, but what he did and how he acted.

if kobe just goes down in that game without an agenda i think this conversation would be kind of silly. Kobe had a worse team and had a historic season and coupled that with success in both the regular season and playoffs.

but as usual, kobe has to do something that pisses off people outside of Laker nation.

I remember is pulling so hard for the lakers in that series and after kobe missed the series winnner in game 6, i think he thought it was over. And he used the excuse of being down at halftime even though he had played well to completely change his game for the 2nd half. just a really really weak move by a great player and leader.

i mean, 1 assist and only like 2 2nd half points in a game 7? come on. that was a shame.

but remove that 2nd half and i think kobe easily had the better season. he was amazing.
imo, the lakers overachieved in the 2006 playoffs. the suns were clearly the better team.

[blablabla]

Kobe always resembled an old Jordan while Wade resembled a younger Jordan.

Kobe relied more on his shooting where Wade resembled a younger Jordan with all his drives to the basket and his terrific play off the dribble. How he can get to the basket in such a variety of ways and make shots from all sorts of angles.

We all know jordan got mad popular because of his awesome drives to the basket, not because of his shooting when he got older.

If I want to see a good shooter, I don't need to see Kobe, there are plenty of others I'd rather watch like Ray Allen etc etc etc.. But Wade is one of a kind when he entered the league and since.

And kobe's FG% leaves quite a bit to be desired anyway. That guy pumps his point totals by shooting more than anyone in the league. He;s very lucky to be playing in LA with that media attention and all those great teams that the lakers had.. If he was on any other team besides NY or LA, like let's say the clippers or nuggets for example, there would be a unanimous vote on who the better player is.

And that would EASILY be Wade.

Wade is the more versatile and dynamic player who can really rebound, can post up which is amazing for a guy his height, make amazing plays with steals and blocks for a guy who's only 6 foot 4.. who is a lot more fun to watch.... and a player who can beat you in more ways.

Wade plays a lot bigger than he is.. Kobe doesn't.

Wade > Kobe

Wade is the superior and better talent.

The only reason kobe has more rings is because he's been on far superior supporting casts. Wade wins all those titles with those chicago bulls teams jordan had and those laker teams kobe had. Basketball is a team game after all.

Kobe had Shaq in his prime years. Wade had a slightly older Shaq who wasn't the same dominant force he was during his time in LA.. anyone could have seen that. And Wade won a title with a not so dominant Shaq. And Wade was only in his 3rd year looking like a true legend owning the court... breaking playoff records. And was just as dominant in his first 2 years in the league before that. If you followed all the games, the early years of Wade's career was what legends are made of... legendary.

The one area where Kobe was better is staying healthy. He has done a better job avoiding injuries. But on a pure talent basis it's Wade > Kobe.


i hope you are trolling

[Disaprine]

i hope you are trolling
probably a fake account by pauk. :lol

[ginobli2311]

imo, the lakers overachieved in the 2006 playoffs. the suns were clearly the better team.

exactly my point.

that is why i said it wasn't that kobe lost, it was how he did it. it just leaves a really bad taste in the mouths of fans outside of laker nation. we all saw what happened, and its about as bad as it gets in an elimination game by your leader and best player.

its why i would say kobe just taking it to 7 and getting up 3-1 is a huge accomplishment and would be a couple reasons why I think his season was better than Wade's.

even with the game 7 showing, I still rank kobe's seasons slightly above wade's. without it, its easily Kobe for me.

[Doranku]

exactly my point.

that is why i said it wasn't that kobe lost, it was how he did it. it just leaves a really bad taste in the mouths of fans outside of laker nation. we all saw what happened, and its about as bad as it gets in an elimination game by your leader and best player.

its why i would say kobe just taking it to 7 and getting up 3-1 is a huge accomplishment and would be a couple reasons why I think his season was better than Wade's.

even with the game 7 showing, I still rank kobe's seasons slightly above wade's. without it, its easily Kobe for me.

I hate remembering the 05-06 season. I can't help thinking what if Odom gets that rebound and LA wins the series in 6? They have virtually a 7 game home series against the Clippers, and then they play the same Mavs team that Kobe out-scored through 3 quarters earlier in the season...

:(

[macpierce]

wade had a great season, but kobes was legendary
:banana:

[STATUTORY]

I hate remembering the 05-06 season. I can't help thinking what if Odom gets that rebound and LA wins the series in 6? They have virtually a 7 game home series against the Clippers, and then they play the same Mavs team that Kobe out-scored through 3 quarters earlier in the season...

:(

yup when Kobe hit that game winner buzzer beater in game 4. I didn't think there was any chance of losing that series. then dumb@ss odom misses a rebound and doesn't close out...:facepalm

[ginobli2311]

yup when Kobe hit that game winner buzzer beater in game 4. I didn't think there was any chance of losing that series. then dumb@ss odom misses a rebound and doesn't close out...:facepalm

and kobe airballed a game winner in game 6. plenty of blame to go around for everyone.

not even bringing up game 7.

please don't make odom the scapegoat. not true. dude was seriously balling all series long...as was kobe.

[STATUTORY]

and kobe airballed a game winner in game 6. plenty of blame to go around for everyone.

not even bringing up game 7.

please don't make odom the scapegoat. not true. dude was seriously balling all series long...as was kobe.

very weird series. Smush being clutch. Raja Bell going gangsta. Steve nash losing his cool. odom was playing out of his mind and one of the reason we were up 3-1.

even luke walton was balling. looking back, luke probably landed that contract in part due to that series.

[ginobli2311]

very weird series. Smush being clutch. Raja Bell going gangsta. Steve nash losing his cool. odom was playing out of his mind and one of the reason we were up 3-1.

even luke walton was balling. looking back, luke probably landed that contract in part due to that series.

yep.

one of the best series i've ever seen. i actually picked the lakers before the series. so many great plays and big shots and big performances.

it just shows us how fragile winning can be. if the lakers win that series, i think they beat the clippers, and then have a legit chance against the mavs. so that team might have made the finals if they got lucky.

crazy.

[ATL_Bball_King]

Did Westbrook get to play threw his struggles?

Umm Yeah

Beasley didnt

Is Durant ball dominate?

umm no

Westbrook has the ball in his hands more often

Wade has the ball in his hand 24/7

Beasley gets touches when Wade cant do jack.

How much minutes did Westbrook have in his rookie season?

Beasley had 25mpg and averaged 12/5 ...................... Beasley per36 averaged 20/8

Answer a question....

Do you think Beasley would of been better if he were drafted by the lakers and he was playing along side Kobe...If so Why...??

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

Answer a question....

Do you think Beasley would of been better if he were drafted by the lakers and he was playing along side Kobe...If so Why...??
In 08-09?


That would have Odom, Bynum, and Gasol so no.

But if were talking bout 05-06 hell yeah!!

Phil is a way better coach than Spo and Kobe isn't as ball-dominate as Wade was

[ATL_Bball_King]

In 08-09?


That would have Odom, Bynum, and Gasol so no.

But if were talking bout 05-06 hell yeah!!

Phil is a way better coach than Spo and Kobe isn't as ball-dominate as Wade was

Its crazy how that can hinder your abilities in the NBA...I personally think kobe's leadership just makes the people on his team better... i.e. Gasol, Bynum, Brown, Odom well anyone who plays with the lakers... Just wonder why isnt it like that with Wade's or Lebron's teams...Cause the talent is their...

[ginobli2311]

Its crazy how that can hinder your abilities in the NBA...I personally think kobe's leadership just makes the people on his team better... i.e. Gasol, Bynum, Brown, Odom well anyone who plays with the lakers... Just wonder why isnt it like that with Wade's or Lebron's teams...Cause the talent is their...

i'm not sure odom or gasol have vastly improved because of kobe. i think they are just playing in better roles and i'd credit phil jackson with more of that than a player.

[G-Funk]

exactly my point.

that is why i said it wasn't that kobe lost, it was how he did it. it just leaves a really bad taste in the mouths of fans outside of laker nation. we all saw what happened, and its about as bad as it gets in an elimination game by your leader and best player.

its why i would say kobe just taking it to 7 and getting up 3-1 is a huge accomplishment and would be a couple reasons why I think his season was better than Wade's.

even with the game 7 showing, I still rank kobe's seasons slightly above wade's. without it, its easily Kobe for me.


had Kobe gone out in a rampage, he would have been called a ball hog a bad team mate, u would be talking shyt right now about how he went out of the system that worked the first 6 games. How he didn't trust his teammates. He was called a ball hog that whole season. Kobe has always been in a lose, lose situation and u know this.

[ginobli2311]

had Kobe gone out in a rampage, he would have been called a ball hog a bad team mate, u would be talking shyt right now about how he went out of the system that worked the first 6 games. How he didn't trust his teammates. He was called a ball hog that whole season. Kobe has always been in a lose, lose situation and u know this.

nah man. there is a middle ground....something kobe has always struggled with.

so you support what he did in the 2nd half? flat out agenda driven quitting my friend.

kobe thought they couldn't win and he bailed on his teammates. funny how he didn't have a problem shooting 27 shots a game that year. the lakers played one way all year, and then in the playoffs kobe stopped shooting as much.

don't know why. only kobe knows why he tanked the 2nd half of a game 7.

maybe he lost confidence when he airballed the series winner in game 6 at home. not sure.

[Doranku]

nah man. there is a middle ground....something kobe has always struggled with.

so you support what he did in the 2nd half? flat out agenda driven quitting my friend.

kobe thought they couldn't win and he bailed on his teammates. funny how he didn't have a problem shooting 27 shots a game that year. the lakers played one way all year, and then in the playoffs kobe stopped shooting as much.

don't know why. only kobe knows why he tanked the 2nd half of a game 7.

maybe he lost confidence when he airballed the series winner in game 6 at home. not sure.

To be fair, LA wouldn't have won that game even if Kobe came out blazing. The Suns had everything going for them in the 3rd quarter, and built a 20 point lead early on.

I'm not condoning what he did because it was really unnecessary, but even if he goes out there and shoots 20 more shots to hit 50 again, LA wasn't winning that game. No other Laker showed up.

[Jacks3]

Kobe easily.

Think about this. He took a team of Odom/Smush/Kwame Brown/Smush Parker/Mihm and had them 7th in ORTG in the league. Amazing.

35/5/5/2/56% TS and he did a amazing job of not turning the ball over--9% TO rate.

27 40+ point games
8 50+ point games
81 points in one game
62 points in three quarters
4 straight 45+ point games
Averaged 40+ PPG for the entire month of January and April
Scored more points in one season than anybody in history not named Wilt or Jordan.
All-NBA 1st Team
All-NBA 1st Team Defense

:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
Oh, and it was the highest PPG average in two decades. :bowdown:

[catch24]

Kobe's season was a little more impressive if we're going to add postseason success. Dude dropped 50 in an elimination game and the Lakers still lost - yeah, thats how bad his supporting cast was.

[amfirst]

Kobe by far. Dude was amazing to watch. I wish he had help that year. Basically, 3 vs 1 every night. Kwame, Luke, Smush as a starter, damn that is just sad, none worthy to start on any team, let alone the d-league.

[amfirst]

Answer a question....

Do you think Beasley would of been better if he were drafted by the lakers and he was playing along side Kobe...If so Why...??

Hell yea, he would be better playing with Kobe. Kobe is a natural leader and will put him in place, his leadership is also infectious. There is a reason why everyone gets better playing with him. Unlike, LeBron and Wade. I don't even want to begin. :lol

[RazorBaLade]

To be fair, LA wouldn't have won that game even if Kobe came out blazing. The Suns had everything going for them in the 3rd quarter, and built a 20 point lead early on.

I'm not condoning what he did because it was really unnecessary, but even if he goes out there and shoots 20 more shots to hit 50 again, LA wasn't winning that game. No other Laker showed up.

lamar had a good g7 but really kb was getting smush open shots he missed a few, passed on a few, ppl made turnovers and phx was just gone.

id of course rather have seen him take 30 shots.. but the game was over and frankly his team coming thru (outside of odom) THEN kobe taking over would have had a higher chance of winning.. but we were just down 2 much after the first 3 min of the 3rd q and they were really rolling

[laronprofit9]

Kobe Bryant really didn't get anything from merit this season. It was all his own doing and he earned every award this season.

In the 2004-2005 Season. He was demoted to All-NBA 3rd Team with NO defensive team selections. And the first time he never made the playoffs.

Kobe clearly was seen in a lower light as a player coming into the 2005-2006 season.

The All-NBA First Team and All-Defensive First Team selections Kobe received this season, they were earned. Period. He couldn't live off his past reputation this season like the seasons we see from him lately(07-10), because of how disastrous the previous year was. 2006 was truly remarkable season from Kobe on both ends.

Kobe was seen as the hated villain of the NBA, with Lebron as the new golden boy of the NBA during this time. Kobe hit rock bottom after 2005.

Non-NBA Fans and most casual NBA fans hated Kobe and considered him a "rapist". Then there was already his tarnished reputation of arrogance and copying MJ's persona. Those 2 compiled were already big blows to Kobe's reputation.

Then the Lakers not making the playoffs in 2005, and having one of the worst records in their franchise existence just put Kobe in the basement of his career. I remember J.A. Adande who is a local writer in LA a supporter of Kobe, fancied the idea of Tracy McGrady being the superior player at the time for getting the Rockets to the playoffs in 2005. Kobe was really not doing too good at this time.

Kobe's 2005-2006 season was just pure redemption in my eyes. Watching every game, Kobe was just something else. His jumper was just amazing this season, I never seen Kobe ever make more jumpshots at any point in his career than this season. His touch was amazing this season. Plus he was still young enough and explosive enough to drive by any player. His footwork and post-up game fundamentals combined with his athleticism, made him the most complete scorer in the game.

2006 Kobe was the most complete scorer ever after Michael Jordan in my eyes. There was literally nothing he couldn't do to score that season.

Yeah some might have been more efficient, but when Kobe went into a zone, a defense is helpless because there is no strategy to defending a guy with thousands of moves and counter moves. And Kobe went into that zone frequently this season.

Yah he had some very bad games which makes his fg% lower like some real clunkers where he would go 5 for 25 or something like that. But more often than not this season, he was in a major zone this season waiting to score 40 on you every night. It honestly felt like Kobe only scoring 30 was a bad game. I mean that is still 30 points, but that was considered a disappointment for Kobe by his standards this season.

You really had to follow Kobe's 2006 game to game to really understand how remarkable it was. Outside of box scores and stats, which were still hella impressive. It was really the first time, I felt a player scoring 30 points was actually a bad game for him. That's how insane it was.

[Heat007]

lol

[Heat007]

wade's 08-09 season was historical also. i read something where it was the only season(i think) in nba history that had that combination of 30+ points, 5+ rebs, 7+ assts, 2+ stls, and 1+ blocks.

Kobe totally quit on his team in game 7 of the 2006 playoffs and was humiliated for being such an A$$WIPE. what an EMBARRASSING ending to that season.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGoxIvuPtmo

Wade is a beast in the playoffs, he's set records in playoff series', Wade never quits in the playoffs like Kobe did there.

I mean, Kobe didn't just quit for 5 minutes in the 2nd half like Lebron did. Kobe LITERALLY quit for the ENTIRE 2nd half from the OPENING TIP of the 2nd half ALL THE WAY to the end of the game !! Watch the video. What a total wuss and crybaby when he doesn't have a great team around him.

Wade > Kobe

And compare to Wade in an elimination game when he doesn't have a great team around him and ALL THE ODDS are stacked against him.. look what he does when he's on a bad team against all odds-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePZAj9ffagA

^ Wade averaged over 33 pts for the series on 57% shooting against the Celtics, led the team in FG%, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks... and against all odds on a despicably inferior team.. it didn't matter!!

He doesn't feel sorry for himself like a jackA$$ and doesn't cry about it like the total puss that is baby Kobe. No balls Kobe. Wade is a real man, always giving full effort in the playoffs, a TRUE competitor.

Wade >> Kobe

[chazzy]

Yes, let's wipe out an entire season because of one half

[Heat007]

Yes, let's wipe out an entire season because of one half

Not just one half, But quitting FOR AN ENTIRE HALF in Game 7 of the playoffs.

it's EMBARRASSING beyond belief ! Watch the videos and compare... there is no comparison.

And it deserves to be mentioned in this thread. Because I listed Wade's performance in the 09/10 playoffs which showed no quit putting up outstanding numbers and efficiency across the board.

Kobe is a baby with no balls. He's a crybaby when management doesn't give him great teams to surround him with... pumping up his stats along with shooting more than ANYBODY pumping his totals.

Wade > Kobe

[chazzy]

Not just one half, But quitting FOR AN ENTIRE HALF in Game 7 of the playoffs.

it's EMBARRASSING beyond belief ! Watch the videos and compare... there is no comparison.

And it deserves to be mentioned in this thread. Because I listed Wade's performance in the 09/10 playoffs which showed no quit putting up outstanding numbers and efficiency across the board.

Kobe is a baby with no balls. He's a crybaby when management doesn't give him great teams to surround him with... pumping up his stats along with shooting more than ANYBODY pumping his totals.

Wade > Kobe
You're way too emotional dude, and Wade's 2010 playoff numbers are irrelevant in a 09 vs 06 debate.

[Heat007]

It doesn't really matter what year, because the guy never quits in the playoffs.. that's the point. Wade doesn't fold like a cheap suit like Kobe does. It's not in him.

I brought up 2010 because the Heat were a bad team going up against the Celtics who won the conference, and were a Perkins injury away from winning the title. And Wade just doesn't quit no matter the odds against him.,

Here's game 6 of the 2009 playoffs with the Heat down 3 games to 2. Wade with over 40 pts when facing elimination-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icXtrBq24Xc

In game 7 Wade scored 31 pts in a game where his teammates lost composure, some got ejected and had to leave the game, some were benched, but Wade never quit and played hard throughout. The Hawks were ridiculous from the 3 pt stripe nailing 3s all game long.

[DatDudeD]

It doesn't really matter what year, because the guy never quits in the playoffs.. that's the point. Wade doesn't fold like a cheap suit like Kobe does. It's not in him.

I brought up 2010 because the Heat were a bad team going up against the Celtics who won the conference, and were a Perkins injury away from winning the title. And Wade just doesn't quit no matter the odds against him.,

Here's game 6 of the 2009 playoffs with the Heat down 3 games to 2. Wade with over 40 pts when facing elimination-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icXtrBq24Xc

In game 7 Wade scored 31 pts in a game where his teammates lost composure, some got ejected and had to leave the game, some were benched, but Wade never quit and played hard throughout. The Hawks were ridiculous from the 3 pt stripe nailing 3s all game long.

Really it was ONLY 1 half....lol. You cant judge his whole career on 1 half, dont sit up here and act like kobe hasnt routinely DESROYED teams through the playoffs... spurs,suns, jazz....magic i can go on and on.

[ginobli2311]

To be fair, LA wouldn't have won that game even if Kobe came out blazing. The Suns had everything going for them in the 3rd quarter, and built a 20 point lead early on.

I'm not condoning what he did because it was really unnecessary, but even if he goes out there and shoots 20 more shots to hit 50 again, LA wasn't winning that game. No other Laker showed up.

totally agree.

that is why i said it wasn't that he lost, but it was how he lost.

obviously not a great sequence for kobe. he airballs a 19 foot jumper to win the series at home, and then he quits on his team in a game 7.

it does not ruin a legendary year by any means, but if we are talking about that year, it has to come up.

but i'll still take kobe's year slightly over wade's year.

[Heat1011]

Kobe always resembled an old Jordan while Wade resembled a younger Jordan.

Kobe relied more on his shooting where Wade resembled a younger Jordan with all his drives to the basket and his terrific play off the dribble. How he can get to the basket in such a variety of ways and make shots from all sorts of angles.

We all know jordan got mad popular because of his awesome drives to the basket, not because of his shooting when he got older.

If I want to see a good shooter, I don't need to see Kobe, there are plenty of others I'd rather watch like Ray Allen etc etc etc.. But Wade is one of a kind when he entered the league and since.

And kobe's FG% leaves quite a bit to be desired anyway. That guy pumps his point totals by shooting more than anyone in the league. He;s very lucky to be playing in LA with that media attention and all those great teams that the lakers had.. If he was on any other team besides NY or LA, like let's say the clippers or nuggets for example, there would be a unanimous vote on who the better player is.

And that would EASILY be Wade.

Wade is the more versatile and dynamic player who can really rebound, can post up which is amazing for a guy his height, make amazing plays with steals and blocks for a guy who's only 6 foot 4.. who is a lot more fun to watch.... and a player who can beat you in more ways.

Wade plays a lot bigger than he is.. Kobe doesn't.

Wade > Kobe

Wade is the superior and better talent.

The only reason kobe has more rings is because he's been on far superior supporting casts. Wade wins all those titles with those chicago bulls teams jordan had and those laker teams kobe had. Basketball is a team game after all.

Kobe had Shaq in his prime years. Wade had a slightly older Shaq who wasn't the same dominant force he was during his time in LA.. anyone could have seen that. And Wade won a title with a not so dominant Shaq. And Wade was only in his 3rd year looking like a true legend owning the court... breaking playoff records. And was just as dominant in his first 2 years in the league before that. If you followed all the games, the early years of Wade's career was what legends are made of... legendary.

The one area where Kobe was better is staying healthy. He has done a better job avoiding injuries. But on a pure talent basis it's Wade > Kobe.
Kobe's an inefficient chucker/THREAD

[eliteballer]

Wade can't shoot outside of 10 feet, and you guys want to compare him to Kobe?

[Heat1011]

Great players get to the line. That's why Wade is at least top 5 every year for most fouls called for him. Other players can't keep up with his quickness, ability, crossover, explosion, and his quick change of direction, etc.

so they have to foul.. Great players get to the line as often as Wade does.. Jordan, Shaq, Wade, etc. Because they're special talents and impossible to defend when they're on.

They've been calling Wade the most unguardable player in the NBA for years now, because when he's on, he's just that --- unguardable.

Like I said before, Wade resembles a young Jordan, a lot. Among LeBron, Wade, Kobe, Wade has the closest skillset compared to MJ. Wade's the next Jordan, not freaking Kobe.

[Heat1011]

Wade can't shoot outside of 10 feet, and you guys want to compare him to Kobe?
http://oi52.tinypic.com/2mxoq6b.jpg

Look at Kobe! Obviously he can't penetrate down low. Even if he somehow gets down there, he can't score over Wade or LeBron. Kobe's scared of getting his ass embrassed! LOL! He basically just let the ball go out of bounds on purpose because he gasped when he saw LeBron! LOL

[eliteballer]

Wade's game is built around relying on screens. That's how he consistently gets into the lane, not by breaking guys down 1 on 1. He's almost 30 now, that wont last.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

This n!gga is pathetic :facepalm

[ThaSwagg3r]

This n!gga is pathetic :facepalm
:oldlol: He has your personal pic in his avy.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

:oldlol: He has your personal pic in his avy.

He had to be creeping one of 2 threads and saved my picture :oldlol:

Talk about lame

[Heat1011]

This n!gga is pathetic :facepalm
If you don't like what I said, argue your points. Facepalming ain't making your case

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

If you don't like what I said, argue your points. Facepalming ain't making your case

:oldlol: You know what I'm talking about

If you wanted a picture to jerk to you should have asked me first. I have better ones. You want some nudes too? :rolleyes:

[trooper]

They've been calling Wade the most unguardable player in the NBA for years now, because when he's on, he's just that --- unguardable.

Who's they? Other than Wade nut huggers with Heat[insert number] as their usernames. I'm pretty sure almost the entire basketball world agrees Kobe is the most unguardable player in the NBA when he's on. In terms of pure scoring when they're hot, Kobe is a different league to Wade.

[Bigsmoke]

after thinking about it.

Lebron in 06 > Wade in 09 :confusedshrug:

and we're coming Kobe in 06:eek:

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[AlphaWolf24]

Kobe....


and really...it's not even close

[AlphaWolf24]

Who's they? Other than Wade nut huggers with Heat[insert number] as their usernames. I'm pretty sure almost the entire basketball world agrees Kobe is the most unguardable player in the NBA when he's on. In terms of pure scoring when they're hot, Kobe is a different league to Wade.


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[AlphaWolf24]

yea, both were great.

i actually think kobe's total season was better though. the only problem with kobe's season was game 7. not that they lost, but what he did and how he acted.

if kobe just goes down in that game without an agenda i think this conversation would be kind of silly. Kobe had a worse team and had a historic season and coupled that with success in both the regular season and playoffs.

but as usual, kobe has to do something that pisses off people outside of Laker nation.

I remember is pulling so hard for the lakers in that series and after kobe missed the series winnner in game 6, i think he thought it was over. And he used the excuse of being down at halftime even though he had played well to completely change his game for the 2nd half. just a really really weak move by a great player and leader.

i mean, 1 assist and only like 2 2nd half points in a game 7? come on. that was a shame.

but remove that 2nd half and i think kobe easily had the better season. he was amazing.


Kobe had 20 at haltime..Lakers were still down big....tried to get Kwame going = FAIL

[AlphaWolf24]

imo, the lakers overachieved in the 2006 playoffs. the suns were clearly the better team.


this...far and away better

[amfirst]

Kobe n it was no contest. Go watch the old games. Everybody knew his team mates sucked and no body was guarding any of them. It was 4 on 1 every night. They knew he wasn't going to pass the ball to his crappy team mates, but they couldn't even stop him with all the triple and double teams. The defense was drooling all over him, he still owned them.

[AlphaWolf24]

Kobe n it was no contest. Go watch the old games. Everybody knew his team mates sucked and no body was guarding any of them. It was 4 on 1 every night. They knew he wasn't going to pass the ball to his crappy team mates, but they couldn't even stop him with all the triple and double teams. The defense was drooling all over him, he still owned them.

Mid range game was unstoppable in 06' the best the league has ever seen