Exclusive: Charlie Sheen Says He's 'Not Bipolar but 'Bi-Winning'

[Riddler]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5aSa4tmVNM

[Is He Ill]

Is this one of those Joaquin Phoenix shenanigans?

[1manfastbreak]

charlie sheen needs to stop kicking it with brian wilson, because he is talking the same way as him and saying shit just as stupid as wilson.

[1987_Lakers]

^ Mac Dre is my ni99a.

[Qwyjibo]

I hope Sheen lives at least another 20 years while living this lifestyle.

[-playmaker-]

I'm bi-winning...I win here and I win there


t-shirts should be made...$$$

someone get on it...

[Patrick Chewing]

Sheen has gone off the deep end.

[RedBlackAttack]

After much consideration and contemplation, I've pretty much come to the conclusion that Sheen is my hero.

Seriously... Much respect to that guy.

[Crystallas]

Best interview ever.

[IlliniFan]

He goes hard

[Juges8932]

That was an awesome interview, lol. Thanks for the post.
:cheers:

[PowerGlove]

White Kanye West

[RedBlackAttack]

White Kanye West
Charlie Sheen swag makes Kanye look like black mbell.

[PowerGlove]

Charlie Sheen swag makes Kanye look like black mbell.
:roll:

Nice. That's the only comparison that came to mind. I can't think of anyone else of that stature that would say some slick, over confident shit like that.

[Juges8932]

Charlie Sheen swag makes Kanye look like black mbell.
:cheers:

[bdreason]

One of the best interviews I've ever seen.

[crosso√er]

Cut him some slack, did you guys not see what he had to endure in the "Platoon"?

It's traumatizing.

[TonyJones]

This interview was epic!! :oldlol:

[Kobe Jnr]

"It's like winning!"
:lol

I'll buy those t shirts for sure..

[iamgine]

What Tiger Woods should've said.

[Riddler]

What Tiger Woods should've said.

:oldlol:

[Heilige]

The ABC News Interview With Charlie Sheen
Star Forcefully Responds to Critics in a Special Edition of 20/20: "The Charlie Sheen Interview" Airs Tuesday at 10 p.m. ET on ABC

Charlie Sheen talks with ABC News' Andrea Canning on a special one-hour edition of "20/20" to air Tuesday, March 1 at 10 p.m. ET.

Canning questions Sheen on his controversial remarks and his public feud with the CBS comedy's creator, Chuck Lorre, which resulted in the hit show's suspension, as well as his notorious headline-making actions.

Portions of the interview will air on "Good Morning America" on Monday and Tuesday, and throughout ABC News platforms.

"Two and a Half Men" had been on hiatus since January after Sheen entered rehab. CBS announced Thursday night that it had canceled the rest of the season after the actor's scathing rant against Lorre on the radio program "Alex Jones Show."

In that interview, Sheen said of Lorre that he must have embarrassed him "in front of his children and the world by healing at a pace that his un-evolved mind cannot process."

He went on to call Lorre a "turd" and a "clown," and he sparked accusations of anti-Semitism after pointedly referring to Lorre's birth name, Chaim Levine.

The actor has denied the claims of anti-Semitism.

"I was referring to Chuck by his real name, because I wanted to address the man, not the [expletive] TV persona," Sheen told the celebrity Web site TMZ.

"So you're telling me, anytime someone calls me Carlos Estevez, I can claim they are anti-Latino?" Sheen asked ABC's Canning, referring to his own birth name.

Sheen told Canning he is 100 percent clean and plans to show up for work despite CBS's pulling the plug on this season's production of "Two and a Half Men."


http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/charlie-sheen-interview-special-edition-2020/story?id=13008140



I wonder what the ratings are going to be for this tonight?

[JtotheIzzo]

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/charlie-sheen-interview-special-edition-2020/story?id=13008140



I wonder what the ratings are going to be for this tonight?

dude!

[Patrick Chewing]

"I've got Adonis DNA, Tiger blood."

"They picked a fight with a warlock."

:lol

[Jailblazers7]

He really is ****ing insane.

[red1]

Charlie Sheen swag makes Kanye look like black mbell.
:roll: ish is killing me this morning, whatever happened to that pig/porpoise hybrid

[Heilige]

And it keeps getting better...


[QUOTE]RADAR EXCLUSIVE VIDEO: Charlie Sheen Watches Drug Test Interview, Calls Himself 'Genius'

It

[Heilige]

Charlie Sheen on the Howard Stern Show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo6S6MGG0yM&feature=player_embedded#at=33


TMZ at his house with the Goddesses

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/13007706


Alex Jones show Interview that started it all (Full: starts at 2h09min)(right click save as)

http://rss.infowars.com/20110224_Thu_Alex.mp3


Reaction to GMA

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2011/02/radar-exclusive-video-charlie-sheen-watches-drug-test-interview-calls-himself


Australian

http://video.au.msn.com/watch/video/sheen-tells-all/x80l9on

NBC ones

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/41824892#41824892
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26184891/vp/41825237#41825237

[RedBlackAttack]

Charlie Sheen on the Howard Stern Show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lo6S6MGG0yM&feature=player_embedded#at=33

Fantastic. I consider Howard the single best interviewer in the celebrity world and he doesn't disappoint, here... And Sheen comes off very well.

[-playmaker-]

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/cartbt/prod_pics/Charlie%20Sheen3.jpg



this is going to get played out rather fast though, I can already see people at bars and clubs quoting Charlie to death for the next few weeks...

Charlie is like on tour now, doing interviews everywhere...

[gts]

He really is ****ing insane.train wreck.. this guy has entered the anna nicole smith zone....

what's the over under on life expectancy? career is obviously done

[Riddler]

http://boston.barstoolsports.com/cartbt/prod_pics/Charlie%20Sheen3.jpg



this is going to get played out rather fast though, I can already see people at bars and clubs quoting Charlie to death for the next few weeks...

Charlie is like on tour now, doing interviews everywhere...


you make that?

Dude... you seriously could have a genius marketing idea.


We could turn Charlie Sheen into Chuck Norris...

remember all those funny lines about Chuck Norris?... well what if we just used all THE GOLD Charlie gave us the past few days... and throw it all over some T-Shirts.

Women could have their own T-Shirts... "I'm on a drug - Charlie Sheen"

Hell we could even through in T-Shirts for the 9/11 crowd (trust me, they will buy it)


Genius Idea... only if we could capitalize on this.

[Jailblazers7]

train wreck.. this guy has entered the anna nicole smith zone....

what's the over under on life expectancy? career is obviously done

Yeah, I mean his quote are entertaining and what not but he is a raving lunatic.

[-playmaker-]

you make that?

Dude... you seriously could have a genius marketing idea.


We could turn Charlie Sheen into Chuck Norris...

remember all those funny lines about Chuck Norris?... well what if we just used all THE GOLD Charlie gave us the past few days... and throw it all over some T-Shirts.

Women could have their own T-Shirts... "I'm on a drug - Charlie Sheen"

Hell we could even through in T-Shirts for the 9/11 crowd (trust me, they will buy it)


Genius Idea... only if we could capitalize on this.

no I found that on google real quick...

yeah, one could get rich off selling Sheen t-shirts, but you do run the risk of him sueing the shit out of you...

[-playmaker-]

Yeah, I mean his quote are entertaining and what not but he is a raving lunatic.
he looks bad too...

I just watched the TMZ interview which is like 30 minutes long and he is chain smoking during the entire thing...his voice is raspy as f*ck too...


the cigarettes alone will have him gone soon...never mind the coke

[Riddler]

no I found that on google real quick...

yeah, one could get rich off selling Sheen t-shirts, but you do run the risk of him sueing the shit out of you...


-playmaker-

you see Alex Jones on the View talking about Charlie Sheen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqVKGMSrHVk


it's worth a watch... you'll hate it.

[Heilige]

Charlie Sheen now has a twitter....LOL

http://twitter.com/charliesheen


In for some winning tweets.

[RedBlackAttack]

I disagree that he is a raving lunatic. I think a lot of the things he has been saying (the vast majority of things, in fact) make complete sense. He just isn't following the normal apologetic, fake, phony template that 'troubled' celebrities normally take. He is making no apologies... Nor should he.

What did he do wrong? Party like a rockstar? Bang pornstars? Live it up at his mansions?

He is basically telling the country and its self-righteous bullsh!t to get a life... And I like it.

[-playmaker-]

-playmaker-

you see Alex Jones on the View talking about Charlie Sheen?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IqVKGMSrHVk


it's worth a watch... you'll hate it.
CLICKED OFF right when he said "he wasn't involved with the take down of buliding-7"

:oldlol:

no thank you

[Riddler]

CLICKED OFF right when he said "he wasn't involved with the take down of buliding-7"

:oldlol:

no thank you

:roll:

[-playmaker-]

I disagree that he is a raving lunatic. I think a lot of the things he has been saying (the vast majority of things, in fact) make complete sense. He just isn't following the normal apologetic, fake, phony template that 'troubled' celebrities normally take. He is making no apologies... Nor should he.

What did he do wrong? Party like a rockstar? Bang pornstars? Live it up at his mansions?

He is basically telling the country and its self-righteous bullsh!t to get a life... And I like it.
I am having trouble deciding if he is greatness or garbage atm....I think that he does speak some truth but there is no queston that he goes off on strange rants at times...



there is one thing I know, no matter what happens, if he dies TODAY, he will still have lived and amazing roller coaster life...and that is all that matters I guess...

[Riddler]

I disagree that he is a raving lunatic. I think a lot of the things he has been saying (the vast majority of things, in fact) make complete sense. He just isn't following the normal apologetic, fake, phony template that 'troubled' celebrities normally take. He is making no apologies... Nor should he.

What did he do wrong? Party like a rockstar? Bang pornstars? Live it up at his mansions?

He is basically telling the country and its self-righteous bullsh!t to get a life... And I like it.



dude... I watched the entire 1 hour Piers Morgan CNN interview.

He's going a little crazy because he is withdrawing... but other than that
he's perfectly sane... He's just frustrated and decided to unleash BOMBS.


Good Post.

[-playmaker-]

RBA he acts like he is impervious to drugs and alcohol and all that...and I can't tell how serious he is about it...

it is hard to sense sarcasm in some of the stuff he is saying...

like does he REALLY think that he can't die from mass amounts of coke?...that it is some strange "Sheen force" that will always keep you alive?

[Riddler]

RBA he acts like he is impervious to drugs and alcohol and all that...and I can't tell how serious he is about it...

it is hard to sense sarcasm in some of the stuff he is saying...

like does he REALLY think that he can't die from mass amounts of coke?...that it is some strange "Sheen force" that will always keep you alive?



Some people are wired that way...

Just like I was with Beer.



But yea... he could of died... he just doesn't realize it i think.

[-playmaker-]

Some people are wired that way...

Just like I was with Beer.



But yea... he could of died... he just doesn't realize it i think.
that is a dangerous way to be wired...the "I am invincible" way of thinking

I do wonder though, if that mind set has actual positive health effects on the body...I bet it does...mental health is strange like that...you believe you are going to live forever and so you do...

that mind set didn't help Rick James though...

[RedBlackAttack]

dude... I watched the entire 1 hour Piers Morgan CNN interview.

He's going a little crazy because he is withdrawing... but other than that
he's perfectly sane... He's just frustrated and decided to unleash BOMBS.


Good Post.
I'm not sure that he is withdrawaling at all. He claims it has been a couple of weeks since he last used. I believe him, because his blood test came back negative across the board and, even though GMA pushed the line that this only accounts for 72 hours, that isn't entirely true. On a blood test, they can find trace amounts of drugs (depending on the drug, of course) for a hell of a lot longer than that.

Also, his main thing was cocaine and there is no physical withdrawal with that drug. The drugs that cause violent shaking, vomiting, sleepless nights, etc. are opiates (heroin), which he has made pretty clear that he wasn't doing on this recent binge.

There is psychological withdrawal from cocaine, but -- even at 72 hours -- that would be pretty much gone... Let alone a couple of weeks.


RBA he acts like he is impervious to drugs and alcohol and all that...and I can't tell how serious he is about it...

it is hard to sense sarcasm in some of the stuff he is saying...

like does he REALLY think that he can't die from mass amounts of coke?...that it is some strange "Sheen force" that will always keep you alive?

He didn't say that he is impervious. He said that you have to read the directions and know what you are doing... Which is exactly, 100-percent right. When you mix cocaine and heroin, you are rolling the dice.

As bad a rap as it gets, crack by itself is very, very unlikely to kill you. Deaths related to cocaine are almost always accompanied by other drugs and it is the mix that causes the death.

Charlie has been partying for 30+ years... He knows what he is doing. I think that is the message he is trying to get across. I've told stories before of the house that I lived in when I attended Ohio State. I'm not going to sit here and say that it was on the level of what Charlie Sheen was doing, but it was nuts... Every drug was constantly available and the house that me and my buddies lived in was pretty renowned on a campus that prides itself on 'partying.'

However, while it may have seemed to outsiders that we were completely out-of-control (and, maybe on some level, we were), we were all very intelligent about drugs and what not to mix together. When you enter that lifestyle, you realize there are two kinds of people...

The ones that know what they are doing and the ones that don't. The ones that don't are usually the people you hear about on the news.

[Jailblazers7]

I think its hilarious that he is telling everyone to shove it up their ass but there is no way someone can convince me he isn't crazy.

[Heilige]

What did he do wrong? Party like a rockstar? Bang pornstars? Live it up at his mansions?



What about the crew members and fellow actors that are gonna miss work because of what is going on? You gotta feel for them right now.

[-playmaker-]

I know he knows what he is doing, but I don't think he understands the seriousness of it...knowing what you are doing doesn't mean it won't kill you...or isn't bad for you

he didn't say he is impervious, but he acts like it...

the fact that he is chain smoking in pretty much every interview I have seen him in lets me know he doesn't take that very seriously either...


IDK, I completely understand where you are coming from when you think this attitude could be respected, but it does also at the same time feel like he has completely lost it...

[-playmaker-]

mental withdraw from drugs can last a while btw...

the withdraw of xanax and valium and all that can last years depending on how long you have taken them...and according to Denise Richards Sheen is a monster pill head...



that stuff takes it's toll on your mental health, no matter how safe you are...I think it is quite obvious Sheen's past drug use has effected his current mental state

[NuggetsFan]

train wreck.. this guy has entered the anna nicole smith zone....

what's the over under on life expectancy? career is obviously done

Career's nowhere close to being done.

I don't think he's going to kick to bucket anytime soon but that's just a guess. Guy clearly went HARD and survived it. Clearly knows what drugs to use and what to mix 'em with and what not to(remember hearing that on one of those interviews too). Came up clean for the past 72 hours on those tests too. Guy just seems to like to party. People always paint drugs\partying a one way ticket to death but it takes a long longer than some would think IMO.

Starting to think he's just f*cking with people now tho. Maybe it's the drugs who looped his mind but he seems like he knows exactly what he's doing. Good just be a very good PR move.

[Riddler]

I'm not sure that he is withdrawaling at all. He claims it has been a couple of weeks since he last used.


wait a second... withdrawal last for weeks,... possibly months...

at least psychologically/mentally it does.


Clearly his mind has been going through some changes because it's been detoxing.

And you know what... I bet when he was using he would act "normal"...
it's now that he's stop using he is going a little "crazy" and not acting so normal.

[Riddler]

Mel Gibson is a train wreck


http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AsUtSQoawNs/S-tnx_gBpoI/AAAAAAAAADc/Qm4EAP-AicY/s1600/633515408813814239-Epic-Fail---Trainwreck.jpg


that's Mel Gibson^^^



Charlie Sheen is like a automobile accident... but the car is still drivable.

[RedBlackAttack]

What about the crew members and fellow actors that are gonna miss work because of what is going on? You gotta feel for them right now.
He fought to get them paid and he won. That was one of his major crusades since they shut down production and the company finally caved.


I know he knows what he is doing, but I don't think he understands the seriousness of it...knowing what you are doing doesn't mean it won't kill you...or isn't bad for you

he didn't say he is impervious, but he acts like it...

the fact that he is chain smoking in pretty much every interview I have seen him in lets me know he doesn't take that very seriously either...


IDK, I completely understand where you are coming from when you think this attitude could be respected, but it does also at the same time feel like he has completely lost it...

I think that people are so used to the model that is used in every contrived celebrity scandal that seeing something different and someone actually being honest about life has thrown them off and made them think that something must be wrong with that person.

Charlie was 'supposed' to release a statement that he was in rehab, go away for a few weeks, come back and act totally contrite... Maybe break down in tears about how he hit 'rock bottom'... Beg for his old job back and eventually get to work again. Then, the country would predictably 'forgive' him (even though he did nothing wrong and certainly nothing that impacts anyone outside of he and his family... ie: no one's business) and he would continue making millions per episode.

He has refused that pathetic template and people are literally freaking out over it. I'm just curious what exactly he is saying that makes him insane? That he did nothing wrong? He didn't. That the people who are judging him are self-righteous hypocrites? He is right. That AA is a bullsh!t cult for the weak-minded? It's true. That he is allowed to live his life as he sees fit? Absolutely right.

Where is the insanity?

[NuggetsFan]

that stuff takes it's toll on your mental health, no matter how safe you are...I think it is quite obvious Sheen's past drug use has effected his current mental state

Won't deny that. At the same time him wanting to go hard probably hasn't came up in the past year alone. Guy's been doing this for a VERY long time. Maybe it finally has took a toll on his mental health but it's not crazy to believe that it didn't.

Seems like a binge guy, not a full fledged addict. Someone who can stop when they need to but 8 months down the road go right back at it for a period of time and just repeat the process. Clearly still a problem but my guess would be something he knows he can do.

[RedBlackAttack]

wait a second... withdrawal last for weeks,... possibly months...

at least psychologically/mentally it does.


Clearly his mind has been going through some changes because it's been detoxing.

And you know what... I bet when he was using he would act "normal"...
it's now that he's stop using he is going a little "crazy" and not acting so normal.
That is just pure speculation on your part. Sheen has always been incredibly eccentric. I see nothing in his current actions to assume it is due to symptoms of withdrawal. Can cocaine withdrawal 'mess with your mind'? Sure.

I just don't see it in this particular instance. Any stimulus on the planet can have a psychological impact for 'months' or even 'years' depending on the person... It doesn't have to be an illicit drug. You are applying a very broad assumption to Sheen and I just don't see what you are apparently seeing.

I've been with people who are withdrawaling from serious drugs... It doesn't look like that.

[RedBlackAttack]

mental withdraw from drugs can last a while btw...

the withdraw of xanax and valium and all that can last years depending on how long you have taken them...and according to Denise Richards Sheen is a monster pill head...



that stuff takes it's toll on your mental health, no matter how safe you are...I think it is quite obvious Sheen's past drug use has effected his current mental state
We aren't talking about xanex and valium. Those are two of the most physically addictive drugs on the entire planet. I'm telling you right now... You DO NOT become physically addicted to cocaine.

It isn't possible. You can't broadly apply characteristics of one drug completely across the board to all drugs.

[NuggetsFan]

I've been with people who are withdrawaling from serious drugs... It doesn't look like that.

Ya that's what I don't get. He doesn't look like he's dealing with any withdrawls what so ever. He's done tons of interviews that combined are pretty lengthy. I think it'd be really obvious if dude was having withdrawls.

Not sure when he got clean tho, so maybe he's past all that at this point.

[NuggetsFan]

. I'm telling you right now... You DO NOT become physically addicted to cocaine.


What ...

[Jailblazers7]

The insanity is where he claims he shows people magic and provides them with life changing experiences that they will remember forever, his brain operating on a level that isn't from this terrestrial realm, he has a different heart/brain/whatever, he blinked and he cured his brain, etc.

[RedBlackAttack]

What ...
Look it up. I wouldn't lie to you.

[Riddler]

We aren't talking about xanex and valium. Those are two of the most physically addictive drugs on the entire planet. I'm telling you right now... You DO NOT become physically addicted to cocaine.



addiction is primarily a mental disease... or atleast that's what I believe.
The physical part when strictly dealing with cocaine withdrawl is short term.
Charlie Sheen must of experienced hell the nights he had to come off his "Coke" high.

but He's got some mental issues right now... but for the most part he is normal.

[NuggetsFan]

Look it up. I wouldn't lie to you.

I just find it hard to believe. I had a really good buddy that had to go away to rehab for blow because he just couldn't stop doing it. I used to use it back when I was 16\17 and at one point would crave it whenever I got drunk\was partying. Never craved it badly so I couldn't say myself If it was physically addicting or not but from what I've seen from others I'm not sure how he couldn't be physically addicting?. Everyone's different ton's of people who can choose when to use it and when not to(maybe sheen?) but there's also tons of people who want to stop but can't.

[RedBlackAttack]

The insanity is where he claims he shows people magic and provides them with life changing experiences that they will remember forever, his brain operating on a level that isn't from this terrestrial realm, he has a different heart/brain/whatever, he blinked and he cured his brain, etc.
I completely understood what he was saying with the 'magic' thing... And, again, I thought he was completely right. The people that were partying with Charlie over his multi-week binge will remember it forever. They will talk about it forever. He supplied the kind of party that they will never see again. Life can be drab and predictable for the great majority of people.

That is what he was getting at. And, I can guarantee you, if I was at one of his parties, I would probably talk about it and remember it forever.

As for talking about his brain operating on a level... That is his shtick. At the same time, he is sort of right. Everyone wants these eccentric people to be 'normal.' He isn't normal... Never has been. Why should he start now?

Saying he blinked and cured his brain simply meant that he didn't have to buy into the AA cult or rehab in order to get off drugs... Which is the way a lot of addicts feel and have been successful in doing it that way.

[pete's montreux]

Apparently Charlie joined Twitter today and he's already got almost 160k followers.

[RedBlackAttack]

I just find it hard to believe. I had a really good buddy that had to go away to rehab for blow because he just couldn't stop doing it. I used to use it back when I was 16\17 and at one point would crave it whenever I got drunk\was partying. Never craved it badly so I couldn't say myself If it was physically addicting or not but from what I've seen from others I'm not sure how he couldn't be physically addicting?. Everyone's different ton's of people who can choose when to use it and when not to(maybe sheen?) but there's also tons of people who want to stop but can't.
Craving is a byproduct of psychological addiction, not physical. Physical addiction is what happens when you come off of alcohol, heroin, etc. and you are sitting in a corner, shivering, sweating, sleepless, insane... Basically as miserable as humanly possible.

Cocaine doesn't do that.

[RedBlackAttack]

Apparently Charlie joined Twitter today and he's already got almost 160k followers.
http://twitter.com/charliesheen

[pete's montreux]

And this is his first tweet:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/twitpic/photos/large/250524513.jpg?AWSAccessKeyId=0ZRYP5X5F6FSMBCCSE82&Expires=1299024224&Signature=bbbIwsp5LrhvCtqd831cTIyVOwY%3D

[NuggetsFan]

Craving is a byproduct of psychological addiction, not physical. Physical addiction is what happens when you come off of alcohol, heroin, etc. and you are sitting in a corner, shivering, sweating, sleepless, insane... Basically as miserable as humanly possible.

Cocaine doesn't do that.

Ohhh. I meant like physical = craving and those symptoms = withdrawls. Still I'd assume someone who uses cocaine heavily for a certain amount of time would have atleast the sleepless\anxiety withdrawls. Interesting to find out there's none.

[Heilige]

I completely understood what he was saying with the 'magic' thing... And, again, I thought he was completely right. The people that were partying with Charlie over his multi-week binge will remember it forever. They will talk about it forever. He supplied the kind of party that they will never see again. Life can be drab and predictable for the great majority of people.

That is what he was getting at. And, I can guarantee you, if I was at one of his parties, I would probably talk about it and remember it forever.

As for talking about his brain operating on a level... That is his shtick. At the same time, he is sort of right. Everyone wants these eccentric people to be 'normal.' He isn't normal... Never has been. Why should he start now?

Saying he blinked and cured his brain simply meant that he didn't have to buy into the AA cult or rehab in order to get off drugs... Which is the way a lot of addicts feel and have been successful in doing it that way.


:applause: :applause:

Personally, do you feel he will relapse again? Also, overall how do you feel about him in general even before all this stuff went down?

[pete's montreux]

And the girl in the picture is porn-star Bree Olson.

[RedBlackAttack]

:applause: :applause:

Personally, do you feel he will relapse again? Also, overall how do you feel about him in general even before all this stuff went down?
I don't think he looks at it as 'relapsing.' Again... That is AA jargon. Will there be a time when he takes a weekend for partying it up with drugs and alcohol? I would be surprised if it didn't happen. And I see no problem with it if that is what he chooses to do.

Before recently, I didn't know a ton about him outside of the fact that he has been in some great movies, he is a talented actor, a renowned playboy and an eccentric. I didn't have a lot of the inside info on his life that we are getting now, so it is hard to say.

[pete's montreux]

I as well like you RBA had only general knowledge of Charlie "the Charlie Sheen" Sheen.

Who knew this guy had such quick wit? He's dropping one-liners literally every single other line. F-18, bro? Who says that shit?

Winners. Winners say that shit.

[RaininThrees]

I can't believe there was a mbell reference and we'v e gone 5 pages without...
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7154/swagerlessmanatee.jpg

[NuggetsFan]

I as well like you RBA had only general knowledge of Charlie "the Charlie Sheen" Sheen.

Who knew this guy had such quick wit? He's dropping one-liners literally every single other line. F-18, bro? Who says that shit?

Winners. Winners say that shit.

Someone needs to group all the epic quotes he layed out in the past few days together :oldlol: . That one where he talks about if someone else were on the drug Charlie Sheen or whatever was hilarious.

[pete's montreux]

I can't believe there was a mbell reference and we'v e gone 5 pages without...
http://img687.imageshack.us/img687/7154/swagerlessmanatee.jpg

my ISH shining achievement

[macmac]

Someone needs to group all the epic quotes he layed out in the past few days together :oldlol: . That one where he talks about if someone else were on the drug Charlie Sheen or whatever was hilarious.

Charlie Sheen quotes as a new yorker comic strip

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/charlie-sheen-quotes-as-new-yorker-cartoons?s=mobile

[lefthook00]

Craving is a byproduct of psychological addiction, not physical. Physical addiction is what happens when you come off of alcohol, heroin, etc. and you are sitting in a corner, shivering, sweating, sleepless, insane... Basically as miserable as humanly possible.

Cocaine doesn't do that.

Are you sure? What about the lack of dopamine production when stopping cocaine? It may not cause physical pain or anything but it's still a physiological effect...it may cause sadness, which is a mind-state, but it's from a physical/chemical problem no?

[RedBlackAttack]

Are you sure? What about the lack of dopamine production when stopping cocaine? It may not cause physical pain or anything but it's still a physiological effect...it may cause sadness, which is a mind-state, but it's from a physical/chemical problem no?
Of course your receptors get all out of whack. Again, this is not limited to drugs. Eating chocolate can impact your dopamine receptors.

There are two kinds of drug withdrawals, by definition... psychological and physical. Some drugs can have both (heroin) and some just one (cocaine). Now, by the medical definition, cocaine does not produce physical withdrawal. Does that mean that there are things that may happen in your brain chemistry? Sure.

I'm just giving the medical definition... It isn't a physical withdrawal.

There is a reason why cocaine is referred to as 'girl' on the streets and heroin is 'boy.' For anyone that has experienced withdrawal from heroin, cocaine is absolutely nothing.

[-playmaker-]

He fought to get them paid and he won. That was one of his major crusades since they shut down production and the company finally caved.



I think that people are so used to the model that is used in every contrived celebrity scandal that seeing something different and someone actually being honest about life has thrown them off and made them think that something must be wrong with that person.

Charlie was 'supposed' to release a statement that he was in rehab, go away for a few weeks, come back and act totally contrite... Maybe break down in tears about how he hit 'rock bottom'... Beg for his old job back and eventually get to work again. Then, the country would predictably 'forgive' him (even though he did nothing wrong and certainly nothing that impacts anyone outside of he and his family... ie: no one's business) and he would continue making millions per episode.

He has refused that pathetic template and people are literally freaking out over it. I'm just curious what exactly he is saying that makes him insane? That he did nothing wrong? He didn't. That the people who are judging him are self-righteous hypocrites? He is right. That AA is a bullsh!t cult for the weak-minded? It's true. That he is allowed to live his life as he sees fit? Absolutely right.

Where is the insanity?
"I wish I could let you borrow my brain, my thought patterns are not from this terrestrial world"

"I am on a drug, it is called Charlie Sheen, and if you take it your face will melt off"

(something like that, not exact quotes)

ect...ect...ect


I agree with you that he it is admirable that he isn't trying to fit the "good guy mold" or feel that he has to comform to society...THAT IS AWESOME!!!


but RBA, how can you listen to some of this stuff and not question his mental state?...some of it does come off as insane...

what I was saying earlier though, is that I can't tell how much of that is joking around, and how much of it is serious...it is hard to sense sarcasm with a lot of his comments...

[-playmaker-]

obviously he isn't in physical withdraw...that shouldn't even be discussed with Sheen...lol...he isn't shaking and suffering

it is the mental issues...the mental withdraw

and RBA I brought up xanax and valium cause he has a supposed pill problem too...it isn't just coke I don't think...

Denise Richards said he was a monster pill head when they were together...

he also did a lot of shit that could be deemed INSANE with her btw...

[Riddler]

and RBA I brought up xanax and valium cause he has a supposed pill problem too...it isn't just coke I don't think...

Not true... Charlie Sheen said he is 100% anti-pills.

wouldn't even take pain pills for his hernia

[RedBlackAttack]

I will respond to you guys when I get a little more time to formulate my thoughts, but I just wanted to throw this out there, because a lot of people probably don't realize it...

There are only two withdrawals that can actually be the direct cause of you dying... Alcohol and anti-anxiety medication (xanex, valium, etc).

That's it.

Not that it really applies to this conversation, but food for thought.

[-playmaker-]

Not true... Charlie Sheen said he is 100% anti-pills.

wouldn't even take pain pills for his hernia
he did say that about the bi-polar thing too...


sigh, now I have to look up the Denise Richards quotes...F*CK I didn't want to have to spend time doing that...lol

[pete's montreux]

Do you guys know what insane means? I know what you're trying to say, but insane is the wrong word to use.

[Horde of Temujin]

Not true... Charlie Sheen said he is 100% anti-pills.

wouldn't even take pain pills for his hernia

Youre mistaken he just doesnt like them in pill-form, he prefers to smash them up and snort some lines.

[-playmaker-]

I will respond to you guys when I get a little more time to formulate my thoughts, but I just wanted to throw this out there, because a lot of people probably don't realize it...

There are only two withdrawals that can actually be the direct cause of you dying... Alcohol and anti-anxiety medication (xanex, valium, etc).

That's it.

Not that it really applies to this conversation, but food for thought.
yeah that is true for the most part...that is what I was told while in rehab anyway...

cause you can have seizures withdrawing from those...seizure can result in death obviously...

[-playmaker-]

Do you guys know what insane means? I know what you're trying to say, but insane is the wrong word to use.

yeah just in poor mental health...

[RedBlackAttack]

Do you guys know what insane means? I know what you're trying to say, but insane is the wrong word to use.
Right. That is sort of my point. Being insane means that someone is not in control of their faculties and aren't responsible for the things that they are saying.

I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone in MORE control of their faculties than Sheen currently is. The guy's wit is on a really, super high level... In fact, I think it is going over some peoples' heads, which is more of the problem.

The guy is completely killing it in these interviews with some of the wittiest material I have ever heard in my life. He should do stand-up (not joking).

[pete's montreux]

Isn't insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?

[Jailblazers7]

Sorry for not using the exact clinical definition of insanity. I think it was pretty easy to assume I meant he was in poor mental health and not maximum security prison type of crazy lol.

[pete's montreux]

I didn't even know you posted in this thread. I was talking to prime.

[Riddler]

yeah just in poor mental health...


I'm in poor mental health too.

No alcohol, no cigs, no green...


I think my excessive posting in the OTC as of late is proof.

And if you have a "conspiracy" brain like me and Charlie Sheen do... your mind does go into overdrive.

I'm gonna chill out from this place after tonight... try to get out more.
Go do some shopping or something...




But real underlying problem with Charlie Sheen... is that he has all those great moments in his life and deep deep deep deep down he knows none of that $hit is really fulfilling him... he's doing his best to deny that.

That's where he is in denial.



Jack Nicholson - The Bucket List... a guy who had it all but really knew it didn't fulfill him because he was spiritually dead inside.



Charlie Sheen has a spiritual sickness




And here is a song by RZA to illustrate my point:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0SGX1sRKYP4

[Heilige]

Right. That is sort of my point. Being insane means that someone is not in control of their faculties and aren't responsible for the things that they are saying.

I'm not sure I've ever seen anyone in MORE control of their faculties than Sheen currently is. The guy's wit is on a really, super high level... In fact, I think it is going over some peoples' heads, which is more of the problem.

The guy is completely killing it in these interviews with some of the wittiest material I have ever heard in my life. He should do stand-up (not joking).


This.

Charlie Sheen is going to be on 20/20 tonight at 10:00 eastern time on ABC.

[QUOTE]Charlie Sheen 's "20/20" interview airs tonight, and here are a few gems to look forward to:

On his Tiger Blood media tour: "I woke up and decided, you know, I've been kicked around. I've been criticized. I've been like the, 'Ah, shucks' guy with like this bitchin' rockstar life. And I'm just finally going to completely embrace it, wrap both arms around it, and love it violently. And defend it violently through violent hatred."

On rehabbing himself: "I blinked and I cured my brain, that's how. Everybody has the power.

[-playmaker-]

But real underlying problem with Charlie Sheen... is that he has all those great moments in his life and deep deep deep deep down he knows none of that $hit is really fulfilling him... he's doing his best to deny that.

That's where he is in denial.


Charlie Sheen has a spiritual sickness



^^^ I agree that is likely

as corny as it sounds we all need love...and MAYBE Sheen is getting actual love from people...IDK

but the porn stars will only fullfill his need to bust a nut...there isn't anything real there...

actually scratch that, I suppose there could be a real relationship there, just cause they are porn stars doesn't mean it is impossible for them to love...



but on the outside looking in, it does ceraintly feel like he is "losing"...

he looks lost to me...

[RedBlackAttack]

Sorry for not using the exact clinical definition of insanity. I think it was pretty easy to assume I meant he was in poor mental health and not maximum security prison type of crazy lol.
No, I got you what you meant. I just don't completely agree. If crazy is not strictly conforming to societal norms, then yeah... He is a little crazy.

I just don't think he is in the midst of or on the verge of a serious mental breakdown (which I think a lot of people are insinuating).

[-playmaker-]

I also don't like his attacks on AA...I too just "blinked" and was cured...just woke up one day and told myself, "okay, enough is enough"...

HOWEVER...AA is good for people...not bad...maybe it is a cult for the weak minded...WHO CARES!!!???...some people are infact weak minded...and AA helps them...

AA has saved countless lives...has probably saved thousands of lives outside of AA...drivers that could have been hit...

no one should frown at what AA has done or is doing...

[Riddler]

I also don't like his attacks on AA...I too just "blinked" and was cured...just woke up one day and told myself, "okay, enough is enough"...

HOWEVER...AA is good for people...not bad...maybe it is a cult for the weak minded...WHO CARES!!!???...some people are infact weak minded...and AA helps them...

AA has saved countless lives...has probably saved thousands of lives outside of AA...drivers that could have been hit...

no one should frown at what AA has done or is doing...



Been to AA several times.

I like his attacks.

that place helps people... but if that's the cure, it really is a "lame" cure.

low success rate too... I think he's right.

[Riddler]

but on the outside looking in, it does ceraintly feel like he is "losing"...

he looks lost to me...


Dude... I really think that comment you just said is going to be very popular in the near future.

Charlie Sheen is talkin a lot of $hit right now... and I have a feeling he is going to eat his words.



One thing I've learned to do (not always on the internet)... Is stay humble.

Charlie Sheen should go hang out with Josh Hamilton.... they'd make a good combo of two completely sober guys hanging out.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXOrKT7SUoY
I Am Second Josh Hamilton


I honestly get teary eyed when i watch that.^^^

[-playmaker-]

Been to AA several times.

I like his attacks.

that place helps people... but if that's the cure, it really is a "lame" cure.

low success rate too... I think he's right.
who cares how they cure?...that is irrelevant unless the cure is murdering others or something...

it is the Bible right?...or "God"...big deal...believing in God >>> being dead

see, this is where "God" is very real thing and really does save lives...

[AirGauge23]

I've never heard AA state that they cure Alcoholism. According to several professionals, Alcoholism can't be cured. Just controlled. I have an uncle who was a very bad boozer. On the verge of death several times. They took him to AA and hasn't had a drink since.

[Riddler]

who cares how they cure?...that is irrelevant unless the cure is murdering others or something...

it is the Bible right?...or "God"...big deal...believing in God >>> being dead

see, this is where "God" is very real thing and really does save lives...



the thing with AA is people never escape the Past... They sit in those meetings Regurgitating the same stuff night after night... but if that's what works more power to them.

It's like: quit drinking and move on with your life... how long have you been here? 20 years?

Follow this #1 rule: Don't have the first drink...

it really should be that simple.




Charlie Sheen: "the Nike motto is Just Do it... It doesn't say Just Try To Do it."

[-playmaker-]

I've never heard AA state that they cure Alcoholism. According to several professionals, Alcoholism can't be cured. Just controlled. I have an uncle who was a very bad boozer. On the verge of death several times. They took him to AA and hasn't had a drink since.
yes that is correct, there is no known cure for alcoholism...I shouldn't have used that word...

but AA does get people to stop drinking...that is undeniable...

[Riddler]

I've never heard AA state that they cure Alcoholism. According to several professionals, Alcoholism can't be cured. Just controlled. I have an uncle who was a very bad boozer. On the verge of death several times. They took him to AA and hasn't had a drink since.


that's another problem... it's like total surrender.

Your mind might not be powerful enough, or you may not have the will power to avoid that first drink... but I believe there are better ways to get help than AA.

I found a better support team... people I know... not total strangers.

too many people relying on total strangers... and that's why the program can fail. You don't know who the f*ck these people are.



I had one guy try to sponsor me and later that night he admitted to me that he had a drink two days ago... WTF is that $hit?

[ROCSteady]

Isn't insanity doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results?


Einstein's definition

[-playmaker-]

I had one guy try to sponsor me and later that night he admitted to me that he had a drink two days ago... WTF is that $hit?
:oldlol:

was he like "say dawg, I got sooo f*cked up the other night...damn fool you shoulda seen that shit, THAT PARTY WAS OFF THE HOOK N*GGA!!!"

[wheyhigh]

I lol'ed when I saw the tv commercial for an upcoming interview with sheenmasta'
"Yeah I am on drugs, it's called CHARLIE SHEEN!"

It went something like that but with emphasis.^^^

:roll:

[Riddler]

:oldlol:

was he like "say dawg, I got sooo f*cked up the other night...damn fool you shoulda seen that shit, THAT PARTY WAS OFF THE HOOK N*GGA!!!"



It was more like: "I take breaks from AA... when I fall off the wagon I come back to this place to make sure I don't lose control... But I can still be your sponser." (something like that. )

Guy said he was a Freemason too... he said "Freemasons created AA" while he was speaking to the group... and my head suddenly popped up and I was paying full attention to what he had to say. :oldlol:

I approached him after the meeting and we talked for like an hour.

Black Dude... he was cool and open minded.


He called me a few times to try to get me to go back... but I never did.

That actually might of been the last meeting i ever went to.


(my estimation I've been to about 50 meetings in my life time.... and I always try to speak to the group as a way of facing my fear of public speaking... That's why I enjoyed it... I was using AA as speech class :oldlol:

I wanted to practice public speaking... :roll: )



edit: (i was court ordered to do AA... don't get a DWI in the state of Texas)

[bokes15]

lol, dude is crazy, looked like he was still on drugs during the interview. Plus he was an asshole.

[Heilige]

Part 1 of the Charlie Sheen interview from 20/20:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lW22bWP42s&feature=player_embedded#at=73

[Riddler]

Part 1 of the Charlie Sheen interview from 20/20:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lW22bWP42s&feature=player_embedded#at=73




I'm so glad America has now been forced to listen to Sheen.

[kentatm]

Charlie Sheen should go hang out with Josh Hamilton.... they'd make a good combo of two completely sober guys hanging out.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fXOrKT7SUoY
I Am Second Josh Hamilton


I honestly get teary eyed when i watch that.^^^

are you friggin joking? I want Sheen nowhere near him.

five minutes of Charlie and its right back to this

http://www.lugaluda.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/josh-hamilton-drunk-photos.jpghttp://blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com/valleyfever/hamilton%20deadspin%20photos.jpg


the Rangers are finally worth a damn. lets not risk it!

[Heilige]

[QUOTE]Police remove Sheen's twin boys from his home
'This is not the America I grew up in,' actor tells NBC News

LOS ANGELES

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

The "Two and a Half Men" star has said he wants full custody of the twins.


:rolleyes: