prime Patrick Ewing VS current dwight howard

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prime Patrick Ewing (not NCAA but NBA) VS current dwight howard

who is better ?

If dh12 is better, why ?

[Nelson14]

ewing

[Dwade305]

Ewing.

[az00m]

ewing in his prime was great defensively and offensively. I'll give him the small edge right now.

[DaHeezy]

Ewing practically was Dwight Howard but with a mid-range jumpshot.

Ewing was the most intimedating player in the league pre-Shaq and post Mo-Malone.

[Stillatitdamnit]

lol Ewing, not even close.

[Bigsmoke]

Ewing

[MMKM]

This is so wrong. Look up Ewings career stats. He was a mediocre rebounder and his scoring was right around 20 ppg. The only thing he did better than Howard was shooting. I'd go Dwight

[rodman91]

Ewing by far. Howard is better rebounder. (of course playing with 4 outside shooters..that adds some to his stats)

[alenleomessi]

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[Nelson14]

This is so wrong. Look up Ewings career stats. He was a mediocre rebounder and his scoring was right around 20 ppg. The only thing he did better than Howard was shooting. I'd go Dwight


take your own advise there sir

[PHILA]

Ewing practically was Dwight Howard but with a mid-range jumpshot.

Ewing was the most intimedating player in the league pre-Shaq and post Mo-Malone.
Indeed Ewing has a bit of an edge at this point. I have been critical of Howard as recently as a couple seasons ago, but he is undoubtedly a force climbing up the all time ranks. Far and away the top center we have in the NBA. :applause:



http://i51.tinypic.com/54j3u8.jpg

[rodman91]

Ewing was even better at ugliness.:oldlol:

[ShaqAttack3234]

Ewing, his 1990 season was incredible, he was all-nba first team that year over Hakeem and David Robinson and he carried the Knicks past Boston with 3 dominant games while facing elimination. It's too bad he didn't have the cast to win a title that year.


This is so wrong. Look up Ewings career stats. He was a mediocre rebounder and his scoring was right around 20 ppg. The only thing he did better than Howard was shooting. I'd go Dwight

Right around 20 ppg? He put up 29/11 with 4 blocks per game on 55% from the field and 77% from the line in 1990.

[pauk]

pat-rick yuuuwing!!

[moe94]

This is so wrong. Look up Ewings career stats. He was a mediocre rebounder and his scoring was right around 20 ppg. The only thing he did better than Howard was shooting. I'd go Dwight
Are you retarded?

[MMKM]

take your own advise there sir

Wow I stand corrected. I was basing it on Ewings career stats, but he had a couple monster seasons in his prime. My mistake.

[STATUTORY]

Wow I stand corrected. I was basing it on Ewings career stats, but he had a couple monster seasons in his prime. My mistake.

dwight's offensive game is no where near Ewing. Dwight cannot score if the defense is intent on shutting him down. that's just real

[MMKM]

dwight's offensive game is no where near Ewing. Dwight cannot score if the defense is intent on shutting him down. that's just real
A jump shot goes a long way

[Teanett]

Wow I stand corrected. I was basing it on Ewings career stats, but he had a couple monster seasons in his prime. My mistake.

this happens when dudes post about players they've never seen play when they were good.
your perception of ewing is the old guy with shot knees moving in slow motion but young ewing was a freak athlete.

[jstern]

Ewing.

Stats doesn't do him justice how important he was for New York defensively, as an old guy. Imagine Ewing in his prime.

Also, I remember back in 97-98 season, I was pretty much watching every Knicks game from the beginning of the season until December. The Knicks were like beating so many teams by something like 20 points. To me personally it was like a magical moment cause I've never experienced that. And then Ewing broke his wrist, and the Knicks season was ruined. Such huge disappointment.

[dutchguy]

A jump shot goes a long way

I applaud you for probably being the only poster on this entire board man enough to admit a mistake. (although looking at career stats:no: )

Check him out on youtube and you'll find it was not just a jumpshot. Ewing was an athlete of freakish proportions. Putting Ewing next to Dwight clearly shows the difference between athleticism and just strength.

[STATUTORY]

I applaud you for probably being the only poster on this entire board man enough to admit a mistake. (although looking at career stats:no: )

Check him out on youtube and you'll find it was not just a jumpshot. Ewing was an athlete of freakish proportions. Putting Ewing next to Dwight clearly shows the difference between athleticism and just strength.

ewing was also taller than Dwight and better team defender

[Round Mound]

Ewing:

- Better Shooter from Mid and Far Range
- Ewing Better Shot Blocker and Team Defender
- Ewing Better Skilled Player

Dwight:

-More Athletic (Leaper)
-Better Rebounder
-Better Man to Man Defender (among Centers because today there are few that are good)

[XxSMSxX]

dwight's offensive game is no where near Ewing. Dwight cannot score if the defense is intent on shutting him down. that's just real

So wait, you just tried to interject on a comparison you knew nothing about? :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:

[DTD]

Ewing. He could compete with some of the greatest big men ever when he was in his Prime.

(though I still remember the game Elden freaking Campbell started in place of an injured Shaq and scored 40 points on Ewing. Doh)

[STATUTORY]

So wait, you just tried to interject on a comparison you knew nothing about? :hammerhead: :hammerhead: :hammerhead:
:facepalm if you think Dwight is anywhere close to the offensive arsenal Ewing had.

stop homie, obvious you never saw prime ewing play. This comparison really isn't that close

[jstern]

Ewing. He could compete with some of the greatest big men ever when he was in his Prime.

(though I still remember the game Elden freaking Campbell started in place of an injured Shaq and scored 40 points on Ewing. Doh)
Was that an over time game where before the end of regulation a lot of the LA crowd left because they thought the Lakers lost? I seem to remember that Ewing sort of took over in over time and the Knicks won though. But I remember it being a big and impressive game for Elden.

[rodman91]

Old Pat Ewing owned Prime Zo.. I can't find any reason Howard can do better than Zo.

[redhonda76]

This is so wrong. Look up Ewings career stats. He was a mediocre rebounder and his scoring was right around 20 ppg. The only thing he did better than Howard was shooting. I'd go Dwight

Wrong. Ewing was not a mediocre rebounder. He played with Oakley for most of his career and had to shared those rebounds. Not only that, the Knicks played a much slower pace and were always on the bottom half of the team scoring.
Howard is a better rebounder than Ewing but Ewing wasn't bad either.
You never saw Ewing played, that's why you judged him by the stats you looked up. If you seen Ewing played on a nightly basis, the answer to this thread is pretty obvious.
Ewing > Dwight anyday.

[Snoop_Cat]

Not to mention Ewing put up those stats while competing with actual centers, not these scrubs we call centers today.

[rodman91]

Wrong. Ewing was not a mediocre rebounder. He played with Oakley for most of his career and had to shared those rebounds.

Also Howard played so far with Lewis & Hedo. Ewing played Oakley (88-98) & Mason (91-96).

[ShaqAttack3234]

Not to mention Ewing put up those stats while competing with actual centers, not these scrubs we call centers today.

I picked Ewing, but this is a weak argument because it doesn't factor in the rule changes which make it harder for a big man to dominate. Aside from defensive 3 second violations and the zone rule changes, big men get away with A LOT less physically than they did in the 90's and Dwight is a very physical player. A big reason why we see less great centers is probably because of the rule changes and how the game is called.

[STATFresh6]

Prime Ewing, but don't be surprised if Howard eventually surpasses him.

[redhonda76]

I picked Ewing, but this is a weak argument because it doesn't factor in the rule changes which make it harder for a big man to dominate. Aside from defensive 3 second violations and the zone rule changes, big men get away with A LOT less physically than they did in the 90's and Dwight is a very physical player. A big reason why we see less great centers is probably because of the rule changes and how the game is called.

That is true. Rule changes today made big man less effective today than in the past. Big man these days are so unskilled. The zone would prevent big man from being in the paint more. However, the skilled centers with mid-range jumpers like Hakeem, Ewing, and Robinson would be just as effective today as in the past in beating the zone.

[MightyWhitey]

Not to mention Ewing put up those stats while competing with actual centers, not these scrubs we call centers today.

:applause: Exactly. I remember an interview with Shaq when he broke into the league and said that when he was in school he remembered how dominant Ewing was when he first broke into the Knicks. I would have loved to have seen Ewing in his prime vs Shaq in his prime. Shaq muscled out of the paint when he was in the Magic.

We can say that the 90's was the era of not only Jordan but also the decade of the big man.

Ewing
Hakeem
Mutumbo
Mourning
Shaq
Robinson
Smits........ the list can go on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWhAtFQUhpo&feature=related

[MightyWhitey]

Here's Ewing on Howard and Howard on Ewing - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abubUR5axrw&feature=related

[PHILA]

I remember an interview with Shaq when he broke into the league and said that when he was in school he remembered how dominant Ewing was when he first broke into the Knicks.

Rookie Shaq vs. Ewing

http://insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=188267

[STATUTORY]

I picked Ewing, but this is a weak argument because it doesn't factor in the rule changes which make it harder for a big man to dominate. Aside from defensive 3 second violations and the zone rule changes, big men get away with A LOT less physically than they did in the 90's and Dwight is a very physical player. A big reason why we see less great centers is probably because of the rule changes and how the game is called.

also don't forget players love to be versatile nowdays. Back in the day. if you were 6ft10 you parked yourself in the paint, got blocks, rebounds, and scored in the post.

now 6ft10 guys wanna play PG and shoot jumpers :facepalm

[XxSMSxX]

:facepalm if you think Dwight is anywhere close to the offensive arsenal Ewing had.

stop homie, obvious you never saw prime ewing play. This comparison really isn't that close


Timeout i quoted the wrong person, my bad bout that homie :D

And I agree Ewing is the better player

[ShaqAttack3234]

That is true. Rule changes today made big man less effective today than in the past. Big man these days are so unskilled. The zone would prevent big man from being in the paint more. However, the skilled centers with mid-range jumpers like Hakeem, Ewing, and Robinson would be just as effective today as in the past in beating the zone.

Personally, I think great players like the ones you mentioned are great players regardless. Same with Howard. Howard has certainly been the beneficiary of all-nba 1st team selections that he wouldn't have gotten if those years had been during most of the 90's and you could probably say the same thing about his defensive player of the year awards, so I think his career resume has probably benefitted from the lack of competition at his position, but in terms of statistical production and impact on the game? I don't think those things would suffer in the 90's.

[az00m]

:applause: Exactly. I remember an interview with Shaq when he broke into the league and said that when he was in school he remembered how dominant Ewing was when he first broke into the Knicks. I would have loved to have seen Ewing in his prime vs Shaq in his prime. Shaq muscled out of the paint when he was in the Magic.

We can say that the 90's was the era of not only Jordan but also the decade of the big man.

Ewing
Hakeem
Mutumbo
Mourning
Shaq
Robinson
Smits........ the list can go on.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qWhAtFQUhpo&feature=related

SEAN BRADLEY! He was in space jam to!

[game385]

Ewing. Dwight is more of a physical specimen but Ewing had more game. Not to mention Dwight is playing in the weakest era for centers in the NBA's history.

[eliteballer]

Ewing is a level above. Howard is more comparable to Prime Mourning.

[Shepseskaf]

Ewing is a level above. Howard is more comparable to Prime Mourning.
Agreed. And DHo loses that comparison as well. Mourning could stick the mid-range jumper with consistency, and his intensity will never be matched by Howard.

[rodman91]

Besides his talents on court, he deserves everybody's respect off court.

"..After friend and rival NBA center Alonzo Mourning was diagnosed with a kidney ailment in 2000, Patrick Ewing made a promise that he would donate one of his kidneys to Mourning if he ever needed one. In 2003, Ewing was tested for kidney compatibility with Alonzo Mourning but Mourning's cousin was found to be the best match."

[alexandreben]

I picked Ewing, but this is a weak argument because it doesn't factor in the rule changes which make it harder for a big man to dominate. Aside from defensive 3 second violations and the zone rule changes, big men get away with A LOT less physically than they did in the 90's and Dwight is a very physical player. A big reason why we see less great centers is probably because of the rule changes and how the game is called.
I do agree that DH is bloodyhell underrated in ISH... but the weak center era nowadays is not a weak argument, forget about the rules for a minute, check out how Shaq and TD played under the same rules, and those from 1967-1982 when they share the same rules to today's big men, take KAJ for example, then you have to admit today's first-tier centers are really weaker, such a pity there's no much competition for DH

[Lebron23]

No disrespect to Dwight. But even at his Peak Ewing > than him. Patrick also played against some of the best center of all times in the 1990's.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Coming from a borderline biased Houston Rockets fan, Patrick Ewing was a much better player.

[niko]

Ewing tried to come back from a torn muscle in his knee in like 4 weeks to play in the playoffs for the Knicks. Dwight is making noises about missing this series with a bruise. One is a warrior, the other is a uber athletic *****.

[Fallen Angel]

Ewing:

- Better Shooter from Mid and Far Range
- Ewing Better Shot Blocker and Team Defender
- Ewing Better Skilled Player

Dwight:

-More Athletic (Leaper)
-Better Rebounder
-Better Man to Man Defender (among Centers because today there are few that are good)
:yaohappy:

[ImKobe]

This is so wrong. Look up Ewings career stats. He was a mediocre rebounder and his scoring was right around 20 ppg. The only thing he did better than Howard was shooting. I'd go Dwight

career stats :roll:

Ewing age 27 - 35

24.5 ppg 11.1 rpg 50,6 FG% and 75% from the line with 2.7 blocks with 37 mpg

Dwight hasn't averaged more than 18 ppg since leaving Orlando and he only had 4 20+ ppg seasons while Ewing averaged 20 or more for 13 straight seasons, and he had an offensive arsenal, majority of Dwight's points come off dunks, put-backs and free throws.

Ewing could carry a team in crunch time, Dwight doesn't get the ball because he can't shoot FTs :oldlol:

and Ewing has 2 seasons with higher Defensive Winshares than peak Dwight


Ewing's consistency and longetivity shit on Dwight's, not to mention his superior skills on the offensive end.

Just because Dwight can "shoot" in the high 50s with 13 attempts a game doesn't mean he could get close to averaging 29 ppg on 55% shooting. Maybe if he got 20 FTs a game.