View Full Version : Are women ALLOWED to play in the NBA?
johnwalllover
03-15-2011, 07:50 PM
Im not saying based on skill level could they but are they even allowed? I mean they have WNBA, which is only for women, so is NBA only for men or no? What exactly does it mean national basketball association?
DonCorleone
03-15-2011, 07:52 PM
BBA (Boner Basketball Association).
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 07:56 PM
Would Jeff Gordon enter the Daytona 500 in a Prius?
PHaYze
03-15-2011, 07:58 PM
Women don't have muscles, they can't compete.
mcrd101
03-15-2011, 07:59 PM
BBA (Boner Basketball Association).
flawed logic. I would undoubtedly say the WNBA is NOT a "BBA."
i think it'd be an interesting situation. I bet legal action would ensue if the NBA didn't allow it, but I bet it'd rule in favor of the NBA because theres a WNBA
DWade3
03-15-2011, 08:02 PM
I love to see Sue Bird dunk on Lebron James That would be awesome to see.
http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1820914/rupaul-o.gif
haterofhaters
03-15-2011, 08:07 PM
I love to see Sue Bird dunk on Lebron James That would be awesome to see.
Nike would remove that footage, instantly.
griffmoney1784
03-15-2011, 08:11 PM
if they let women play in the nba
then they would have to let men play in the wnba
and i would be the first to challenge it in court. and later become mvp of that POS league
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 08:17 PM
if they let women play in the nba
then they would have to let men play in the wnba
and i would be the first to challenge it in court. and later become mvp of that POS league
Wrong. "WNBA" stands for "Women's Basketball Association." "NBA" does not stand for "Men's National Basketball Association." There is even a precedent set for this, Nancy Lieberman once played in the USBL.
Of course, the woman good enough to make an NBA roster currently doesn't exist, so none of this speculation maters. But someday we could see some amazing BalCO product break the gender barrier. Possibly. Just don't hold your breath.
i think they are allowed
but they are way to frail weak slow little for the men of NBA
it brings some other complications if u know what i mean lol
like in the changing room
nobody is stupid enough to recruit a woman
1979-1980 indiana pacers were close to be stupid enough as they recruited the first and last ever woman to the NBA........ ANN MEYERS
she had three day tryouts and was immediately cut ofcourse........
check it out, ann meyers indiana pacers tryout : http://www.nba.com/video/channels/nba_tv/2009/09/17/nba_20090917_ann_meyers_pacers.nba/index.html
its freakin hilarious
look how they ragdolled her around........
hkfosho
03-15-2011, 08:20 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1820914/rupaul-o.gif
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knickscity
03-15-2011, 08:22 PM
Lucy Harris say "Hello", I was drafted by the Jazz.
But she didn't play.
ThunderKat
03-15-2011, 08:34 PM
After they fix a "sammich" and finish ironing my pants... then maybe.
SkyR#1fanCapCou
03-15-2011, 09:36 PM
Brittany Greiner in the NBA would be awesome. Myra Moore would be another one that would be interesting.
Mr. I'm So Rad
03-15-2011, 09:37 PM
Can white guys play in the Negro Leagues?
Eat Like A Bosh
03-15-2011, 10:39 PM
Guys tend to go easy on girls, especially hot girls. Might not be a great idea.
Inactive
03-15-2011, 10:45 PM
Wrong. "WNBA" stands for "Women's Basketball Association." "NBA" does not stand for "Men's National Basketball Association."
The name is completely irrelevant. Either you can discriminate on the basis of gender, in pro sports, or you can't.
http://www1.pictures.gi.zimbio.com/Olympics+Day+12+Basketball+-nXeqY2zhtal.jpg
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 10:48 PM
The name is completely irrelevant. Either you can discriminate on the basis of gender, in pro sports, or you can't.
Wrong. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ian_thomsen/12/04/countdown/index.html)
I'll tell you what: Go try out for a WNBA team and see what happens.
Inactive
03-15-2011, 10:53 PM
Wrong. (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/ian_thomsen/12/04/countdown/index.html)
I'll tell you what: Go try out for a WNBA team and see what happens.Not wrong. If the WNBA can keep out males, the NBA can keep out females.
If the NBA chooses to allow both genders, that could work, but that is unlikely to happen. All the sports illustrated articles, and statements made to appease feminists, won't change the practical problems involved.
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 10:53 PM
Guys tend to go easy on girls, especially hot girls. Might not be a great idea.
On the playground, sure. But if a 5'11 160 lb. girl is all that stands between an undrafted 6'6 250 PF and a half-mil for a year of ball she won't be standing for long.
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 10:56 PM
Not wrong. If the WNBA can keep out males, the NBA can keep out females.
If the NBA chooses to allow both genders, that could work, but that is unlikely to happen. All the sports illustrated articles, and statements made to appease feminists, won't change the practical problems involved.
Did you read the link? Please find the rule in the NBA books that specifically forbids women from playing. It doesn't exist. If a team deemed a woman good enough to help, they could sign her. The reason there isn't one is that none so far has been thought good enough.
TheStarting5ive
03-15-2011, 10:58 PM
Brittany Greiner in the NBA would be awesome. Myra Moore would be another one that would be interesting.
I'd take Brittany over more than a couple of centers in the NBA right now :oldlol:
Inactive
03-15-2011, 10:59 PM
Did you read the link? Please find the rule in the NBA books that specifically forbids women from playing. It doesn't exist. If a team deemed a woman good enough to help, they could sign her. The reason there isn't one is that none so far has been thought good enough.I'm not talking about rules within the organization. I'm talking about the legality of excluding women. There are women who could play as spot up 3 pt shooters coming off the bench, but they will never be signed. There would be too many problems with sexual harassment, the first woman that got flagrant fouled, would be a huge scandal, many of the players would protest it, it would alienate many of the young male fans/players, because the sport would appear less masculine, etc.
If they specifically stated that women were forever excluded, it would invite criticism from feminists, and they would gain nothing. Denying that the barring of female players is an unwritten rule, is disingenuous, though.
Mark Madsen
03-15-2011, 11:03 PM
Brittany Greiner in the NBA would be awesome. Myra Moore would be another one that would be interesting.
No way that is a girl ...
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 11:08 PM
I'm not talking about rules within the organization. I'm talking about the legality of excluding women. There are women who could play as spot up 3 pt shooters coming off the bench, but they will never be signed. There would be too many problems with sexual harassment, the first woman that got flagrant fouled, would be a huge scandal, many of the players would protest it, etc.
There are women who shoot as well as any man but there's more to being an NBA player than just hitting a jumper. Steve Kerr still has a great jumper but he couldn't play in the NBA right now. A woman would lack the strength to defend any NBA player. Name a single female player that wouldn't get absolutely destroyed. Size, speed, muscle, these things are extremely important. Women don't naturally get these things on par with men so they can't play with the men at the highest level. Just like how you won't see a woman race against Usain Bolt you won't see a woman playing against Derek Rose. It's just too great of a mismatch.
Inactive
03-15-2011, 11:12 PM
There are women who shoot as well as any man but there's more to being an NBA player than just hitting a jumper. Steve Kerr still has a great jumper but he couldn't play in the NBA right now. A woman would lack the strength to defend any NBA player. Name a single female player that wouldn't get absolutely destroyed. Size, speed, muscle, these things are extremely important. Women don't naturally get these things on par with men so they can't play with the men at the highest level. Just like how you won't see a woman race against Usain Bolt you won't see a woman playing against Derek Rose. It's just too great of a mismatch.I would contend that the most athletic female players, could conceivably match up with the least athletic males. Athleticism isn't the only reason that females haven't been signed.
Technically, they are allowed. The league title doesn't specify gender, where as the WNBA does. Still, a woman would never make it in the NBA. They're not strong or fast enough.
LastChanceToWin
03-15-2011, 11:13 PM
By the looks of Amare's and Melo's defense, they might be part women.
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 11:19 PM
I would contend that the most athletic female players, could conceivably match up with the least athletic males. Athleticism isn't the only reason that females haven't been signed.
The least athletic player in the NBA would be getting 30/20 and dunking on everyone in the WNBA. Brian Scalibrine would destroy their entire league. This is a fact. That's why they don't play in the NBA. You really think an NBA coach, whose job security is entirely tied into wins and losses, would rather lose his job than bring in a woman who he knew would make his team better?
This argument is silly.
anyonebutmiami
03-15-2011, 11:22 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1820914/rupaul-o.gif
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magnax1
03-15-2011, 11:24 PM
Better question
Are men allowed to play in the WNBA?
Colby Brian
03-15-2011, 11:24 PM
BBA (Boner Basketball Association).
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: WTF
Inactive
03-15-2011, 11:25 PM
The least athletic player in the NBA would be getting 30/20 and dunking on everyone in the WNBA. Brian Scalibrine would destroy their entire league. This is a fact. That's why they don't play in the NBA. You really think an NBA coach, whose job security is entirely tied into wins and losses, would rather lose his job than bring in a woman who he knew would make his team better?
This argument is silly.There are women that can run the 100 meter, in 10.5 seconds. There are women that can bench 400 pounds, squat 600 pounds. Not very many NBA can do those things. Are you seriously suggesting that there isn't 1 women, who has the athletic ability, to play a bench role in the NBA? That's nonsense.
There are women that can run the 100 meter, in 10.5 seconds. There are women that can bench 400 pounds, squat 600 pounds. Not very many NBA can do those things. Are you seriously suggesting that there isn't 1 women, who has the athletic ability, to play a bench role in the NBA? That's nonsense.
What female has benched 400? Ben Wallace only maxed out at 420.
Inactive
03-15-2011, 11:28 PM
What female has benched 400? Ben Wallace only maxed out at 420.Look up female powerlifting records.
PistonsFan#21
03-15-2011, 11:29 PM
It would be awesome to see a woman try to post up a NBA player
There are women that can run the 100 meter, in 10.5 seconds. There are women that can bench 400 pounds, squat 600 pounds. Not very many NBA can do those things. Are you seriously suggesting that there isn't 1 women, who has the athletic ability, to play a bench role in the NBA? That's nonsense.
if there is such a woman, she would have to start her way in the d-league first before we can think about her in the NBA. but no there isnt a single woman player ever that i can think of that can play in the NBA. even in the most limited role. even a preseason roster spot.
PistonsFan#21
03-15-2011, 11:31 PM
Look up female powerlifting records.
They have a bench suit though. And they are all on steroids.
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 11:31 PM
There are women that can run the 100 meter, in 10.5 seconds. There are women that can bench 400 pounds, squat 600 pounds. Not very many NBA can do those things. Are you seriously suggesting that there isn't 1 women, who has the athletic ability, to play a bench role in the NBA? That's nonsense.
Ok....now which woman running a 10.5 is 6'0+ with NBA-caliber bball skills? The best female basketball players are in the WNBA. Who among them has this kind of athletic ability?
There might be a woman out there that could do well as an NBA team's sixth man but I have no idea who she is, and neither do you.
Inactive
03-15-2011, 11:32 PM
They have a bench shuit though. And they are all on steroids.
But they could fold you into a ball, and throw you through a basketball hoop.
Bandito
03-15-2011, 11:32 PM
Im not saying based on skill level could they but are they even allowed? I mean they have WNBA, which is only for women, so is NBA only for men or no? What exactly does it mean national basketball association?I think there isn't any rule that says the can't but there is a rule that says that men can't play in the WNBA. I think it is one of those unwritten rules that says that they can't:lol
Look up female powerlifting records.
These are records. These women are freaks. And out of those women, how many can actually play? Hulk Hogan benched 550 in his prime, but that's freakish. A guy that can bench even 350 is considered pretty strong. 400 for a guy is approaching freakish.
And remember that only .5% of the population can bench double their weight. Just finding a woman that weighs considerably over 200 pounds of muscle is quite difficult.
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 11:34 PM
What female has benched 400? Ben Wallace only maxed out at 420.
http://www.femalemuscle.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/tina_robinson.jpg
The future of the NBA?
Inactive
03-15-2011, 11:34 PM
Ok....now which woman running a 10.5 is 6'0+ with NBA-caliber bball skills? The best female basketball players are in the WNBA. Who among them has this kind of athletic ability?
There might be a woman out there that could do well as an NBA team's sixth man but I have no idea who she is, and neither do you.It doesn't matter. The point is that there is overlap between the physical capabilities of men and women. The female world record holder in <name feat> is usually good enough to be competitive with the lower tier males. There's no reason to think that the same wouldn't be true with basketball. There are other issues, which make female integration a bad idea.
PistonsFan#21
03-15-2011, 11:35 PM
But they could fold you into a ball, and throw you through a basketball hoop.
Lets see them try to do that to Ben Wallace
50inchvertical
03-15-2011, 11:38 PM
There are women that can run the 100 meter, in 10.5 seconds. There are women that can bench 400 pounds, squat 600 pounds. Not very many NBA can do those things. Are you seriously suggesting that there isn't 1 women, who has the athletic ability, to play a bench role in the NBA? That's nonsense.
VERY few and they aren't even all the same women. Problem is there isn't a women who is strong enough, fast enough, big enough, the whole package.
Take Britney Grinner for example, EASILY the most athletic female we have ever seen. She is 6'8 175. So she weighs less than the average point guard in the NBA. Who is she going to score on in the NBA? Too short to be a center, not mobile enough to play anywhere else, too weak to get any type of position.
Now female guards, they are much closer to possible because they could conceivably stay outside but overall the women's game is jjust so much slower, not just from the athleticism standpoint but they take longer to make their decisions and have slower reaction time.
Hell, look at the ALl star celebrity games and those events where they mix WNBA stars with celebrities who have no basketball acumen. Just the physical difference between being a man and a woman makes up for any basketball skill advantage women would have.
I went to a d2 school. WHen the women's team looked for ringers to practice against, they didn't want dudes who can hoop, they just wanted guys who would play hard. And they normally still lost.
Disaprine
03-15-2011, 11:39 PM
http://media.ebaumsworld.com/picture/bub64xp/motivator4108629.jpg
Take Britney Grinner for example, EASILY the most athletic female we have ever seen. She is 6'8 175. So she weighs less than the average point guard in the NBA. Who is she going to score on in the NBA? Too short to be a center, not mobile enough to play anywhere else, too weak to get any type of position.
I saw a few clips of her. That girl is skinnier than a rail.
TennesseeFan
03-15-2011, 11:41 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view4/1820914/rupaul-o.gif
proof :oldlol:
lebob23
03-15-2011, 11:48 PM
:lol
50inchvertical
03-15-2011, 11:48 PM
I saw a few clips of her. That girl is skinnier than a rail.
Exactly, that's why Inactive's argument is so stupid. Ok, maybe there is a big female somewhere who can beat Westbrook in a foot race? Can she sdo it while dribbling a ball though? Can she stop and go? Change directions? Possess the overall athletic graces basketball requires? Doubtful.
Female powerlifters can push Big Baby around. Ignoring that's generally a foul, do they posess the quickness and endurance basketball requires? Doubtful
Inactive
03-15-2011, 11:51 PM
Exactly, that's why Inactive's argument is so stupid. Ok, maybe there is a big female somewhere who can beat Westbrook in a foot race? Can she sdo it while dribbling a ball though? Can she stop and go? Change directions? Possess the overall athletic graces basketball requires? Doubtful.
Female powerlifters can push Big Baby around. Ignoring that's generally a foul, do they posess the quickness and endurance basketball requires? DoubtfulMy argument is that athleticism is not the only reason why women aren't in the NBA, and that if a women hypothetically had the athletic ability to be an NBA player, she still wouldn't be signed. To support this, I suggested that there are already women who could conceivably play a limited role in the NBA, and reinforced this assertion, by pointing to athletic feats in which the top women perform better than many of the lower tier males. I'm not saying that there are female basketball players running 10.5s, and benching 400 pounds.
I think you're forgetting the context of my posts.
Real Men Wear Green
03-15-2011, 11:52 PM
It doesn't matter. Yes it does. You are saying that there are women who would be contributors in the NBA if given the opportunity. If you can't think of any actual examples of this then you don't have a real argument. Instead, all you have is:
The point is that there is overlap between the physical capabilities of men and women. The female world record holder in <name feat> is usually good enough to be competitive with the lower tier males. There's no reason to think that the same wouldn't be true with basketball. There are other issues, which make female integration a bad idea.
What female basketball player could guard Scalibrine? If you ran the female record for the 100m you still wouldn't have qualified to race against the men.
mans1ay3r
03-16-2011, 12:13 AM
They should make women play in the same uniform's volleyball women play in.. I dont understand why they playing in loose men's bball gear. Just sayin.
Mr. I'm So Rad
03-16-2011, 12:14 AM
Chris Bosh is in the NBA
/thread
Mirjalovic
03-16-2011, 12:16 AM
how about a female spot up shooter ?
quick96
03-16-2011, 12:31 AM
Are women ALLOWED to play in the NBA?
Aren't Dwayne Wade and LeHype James enough of an answer already...
HA!
Inactive
03-16-2011, 12:33 AM
Yes it does. You are saying that there are women who would be contributors in the NBA if given the opportunity. If you can't think of any actual examples of this then you don't have a real argument. No.
My argument is that athleticism is not the only reason why women aren't in the NBA, and that if a women hypothetically had the athletic ability to be an NBA player, it wouldn't be in the NBA's best interest to sign her. To support this, I suggested that there are already women who could conceivably play a limited role in the NBA, and reinforced this assertion, by pointing to athletic feats in which the top women perform better than many of the lower tier males.
In the 2008 olympics 100m, the fastest woman ran about 1 second slower than the fastest man (man was usain bolt). I'm guessing she probably ran faster than 450th fastest man. Sprinting is a purely athletic feat, so males should have a much larger advantage than they would in a sport like basketball. Since this is the case, it's not unreasonable to suggest that a top female player could conceivably contend with the NBA players ranked in the 400s, especially in a role that minimizes athletic demands.
What female basketball player could guard Scalibrine?
Since we can't compare numbers , or level of competition, between male, and female (w)nba athletes, we have to look to other sports, which record objective data.
Even if I'm wrong, in my suggestion that the top WNBA players could theoretically be spot up shooters, it doesn't invalidate my original point. It just means that I didn't effectively reinforce it, which is okay because your argument was based entirely on the names of the organizations.
Mr. Jabbar
03-16-2011, 12:34 AM
Im not saying based on skill level could they but are they even allowed? I mean they have WNBA, which is only for women, so is NBA only for men or no? What exactly does it mean national basketball association?
creating an account on a basketball forum usually comes after developing a brain, not sure how you skipped that step
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