Which players live the most frugally?

[Cowboy Thunder]

:lol

Who lives in the most modest house?
Who is investing long term for their family?


Just wondered if any of you have read any articles on the matter.

[DuMa]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1110596/index.htm

[Assassin]

fru

[Cowboy Thunder]

ibDRoseDrivesACamry

:lol

[Scientist]

:lol

Who lives in the most modest house?
Who is investing long term for their family?


Just wondered if any of you have read any articles on the matter.

I'd nominate kobe for this, dude lives in newport coast which is pricey but not flashy. It's not no 50 million dollar house or anything and i've never heard of him going on a shopping spree or own any ridiculous vehicles. Pretty impressive considering he was one of the youngest NBA players without a college education.

[PHaYze]

Kobe takes a heli to staples lol

[Penny37]

I'd nominate kobe for this, dude lives in newport coast which is pricey but not flashy. It's not no 50 million dollar house or anything and i've never heard of him going on a shopping spree or own any ridiculous vehicles.
The guy takes a helicopter to work.

[50inchvertical]

I'd nominate kobe for this, dude lives in newport coast which is pricey but not flashy. It's not no 50 million dollar house or anything and i've never heard of him going on a shopping spree or own any ridiculous vehicles.
Kobe rides a helicopter to practice. :oldlol:

I've read articles on KD being cheap, I think Bonner droves an 05 Pontiac Grand Prix, Brandon Jenning bought a Ford with his first paycheck, I know there's more but it's late./

[Scientist]

Yes but i doubt he owns it, it's to avoid traffic.

I'll nominate Chris Kaman next

[eliteballer]

Kobe bought a ferrari for his wife then spent an additional triple figure amount to make it an automatic for her.

[Scoooter]

Ron Artest has been sleeping in my garage for the past couple of weeks.

[gilalizard]

The guy takes a helicopter to work.

Yeah he has. But in his defense, if you've ever had to run the 405 regularly and had his millions, you'd pop for the heli when you're running late too.

The 405 is traffic hell on earth.

[Penny37]

Yeah he has. But in his defense, if you've ever had to run the 405 regularly and had his millions, you'd pop for the heli when you're running late too.

The 405 is traffic hell on earth.
Yeah, but that doesn't make him frugal which is the whole point of this thread.

[DDensity]

Kobe takes a heli to staples lol

Actually that's a smart investment on his part. His time is worth money and if he can make more appearances (commercials, endorsements, etc.) by avoiding LA traffic when possible, then it's money in his pocket.

Helicopters are expensive to us but spending a million dollars is not that big a deal for these guys. It's not like the price of a helicopter depreciates anywhere close to as rapidly as a car. The thing will be worth almost what he paid when it's time to get rid of it.

[iamgine]

I heard Orien Greene is pretty frugal.

[Haymaker]

I bet Tim Duncan is not a big spender.

[midatlantic09]

My guess would be the following (relative to income, of course):

Brandon Roy
Kobe Bryant
Steve Blake
Raja Bell
Kevin Martin
Yao Ming
Shane Battier
Kirk Hinrich
Tim Duncan
Grant Hill
Ray Allen
Loul Deng
Chauncey Billups
Steph Curry
David Lee
Chris Duhon
Luke Walton
Pau Gasol
Chris Paul
Kevin Love
Steve Nash
Elton Brand
Manu Ginobili
Derek Fisher
Jose Calderon
Antawn Jamison
Gordon Hayward
Evan Turner
Devin Harris
Andres Nocioni
Jerryd Bayless
Matt Carroll

[gilalizard]

Yeah, but that doesn't make him frugal which is the whole point of this thread.


Well, frugality is a measure of need balanced with cost. How badly does he need to be at Staples on time?

When you've got several million people, and 10's of millions more in adverstising dollars, riding on your star player beating the LA freeways from the westside to Staples, then it may be more frugal to send the bird.

[JGXEN]

Rashard earns lots of money but iirc, he drives a pretty modest old car

[Wonder Bread Kid]

Matt Bonner wins hands down.

He drives a pontiac grand prix. No lie. No joke.

He's extremely frugal/savvy when it comes to spending. He's really smart with his money.

I just wish Pop would stop playing him so much. :facepalm

[dak121]

Living frugally is downright unAmerican.

[Darsh]

This is from Rocky Mountain News a few years back regarding the Denver Nuggets and the way in which they spend their per diem.

It's a really fun read.


NBA players cash in on daily allowance of $106 during trips
By Chris Tomasson, Rocky Mountain News
March 18, 2007

At first glance, Jamal Sampson's statistics are minimal, averaging 1.2 points and 1.6 rebounds.

But when it comes to saving money on the road, the Nuggets center might have the top numbers on the team.

"I'm the Subway king," said Sampson, prouder of that crown than some have been after being named player of the week. "I don't do room service. I'd rather walk."

Sampson, making $798,112 this season, makes hitting the pavement in an opposing city profitable. NBA players receive $106 per diem on the road for meals and incidentals.

When the Nuggets show up at the airport today to begin a five-game trip, each player will be handed an envelope by athletic trainer Jim Gillen containing $799 in crisp bills. That's for seven days and a prorated day for dinner at $57.

Players can use the money as they choose. They can order room service at a ritzy hotel, which could set them back more than $80 for a meal.

Or, like Sampson, who figures he pockets half his per diem, they can take to the streets.

Then again, it's not out of the question some players could see a large chunk of their per diem vanish before the plane lands tonight in New Jersey in preparation for the game Tuesday against the Nets.

"Man, we gamble away that money right away on the plane," said Nuggets guard DerMarr Johnson, referring to high-stakes card games. "We put it right into the gambling pot."

But Johnson, making $932,015, has his limits. He said he pulled back on a recent trip, not wanting to play for money with some of the higher-salaried players.

'It's a nice little benefit'

The average NBA salary is $5.5 million a year, and the good life doesn't stop there. The teams stay at hotels some marketers now say are six-star. The per diem is $21 more than baseball and hockey players receive.

"It's a nice little benefit," said Nuggets center Marcus Camby, whose salary this season, including bonuses, could exceed $10 million. "They take care of us. But in those fancy hotels, that per diem is probably enough for a breakfast."

Camby is exaggerating a bit. But Nuggets forward Reggie Evans recently dropped $85 for a room service afternoon steak at the swank Four Seasons Hotel San Francisco.

Portland Trail Blazers center Jamaal Magloire spent more than $80 last week for a room service steak at The Westin Tabor Center.

But it's hard to complain too much. In 1957, through much negotiating, Boston Celtics guard Bob Cousy, who helped organize the players' union, got the first per diem in the NBA.

It was $7.

In 1964, the union fought hard for improvements. One they got was an increase of per diem.

It went to $8.

Times have changed. Per diem last season reached the century mark for the first time, at $102. It went up this season, with rules in the collective-bargaining agreement stipulating cost-of-living adjustments.

"It feels like free money," Nuggets guard Steve Blake said.

Sometimes it is. Meals are served on team planes and spreads often are available in the locker room after games.

Envelope, please

The man Nuggets players love to see at the start of a trip is Gillen.

Before each month, he determines how many nights the team will be on the road and sends figures to the accounting department.

On partial days, players are paid about $57 for dinner, $30 for lunch and $19 for breakfast.

Gillen gets the envelopes for each player before a trip. With 13 on the roster, that adds up to $10,387 for this voyage.

"They put their names on (the envelopes)," Gillen said of the accounting department. "I take it to the airplane, and they have to sign for it. I give them the envelope, and away they go."

Gillen keeps two.

Forwards Kenyon Martin and Carmelo Anthony request all their per diem at the end of the season. So Gillen locks up those envelopes until the two are ready.

A Nuggets player going on each preseason and regular-season trip would finish with 26 envelopes and the total take would be about $7,500, though taxes must be paid on about 40 percent of per diem.

Martin, out for the season after undergoing right knee surgery in November, and Anthony, suspended for 15 games earlier in the season, haven't gone on all trips.

"I give them to my nieces and nephews," Martin, making $11.8 million, said of what he does with his envelopes. "They got the price on them. I take it out and count it and give it away."

Camby's hired hand

Martin isn't the only high-salaried Nuggets player willing to part with his per diem. Camby gives envelopes on some trips to guard Yakhouba Diawara in exchange for certain chores performed by the team's only rookie.

Diawara, making the rookie minimum of $412,718, carries some bags and sometimes brings meals to Camby. It doesn't sound as if Diawara buys much for himself.

"There's nothing over a $10 meal for 'Kouba,' " Sampson said. " 'Kouba' will walk three miles. He'll walk around the whole city just to save some money."

Diawara scoffs at Sampson's claims. He said there are days he has only $10 remaining from per diem and spoke about having a $24 breakfast and $40 lunch on a recent trip.

Sampson, though, is proud to be regarded as the team's most frugal player.

"Subway. Quiznos, I'll go to whatever sandwich shop," he said.

Call Sampson the Subway king or the Quiznos king. It might depend on which is giving back the most change.

Big man, big meal

It can get pricey ordering room service at the finest hotels. What Nuggets power forward Reggie Evans had for an afternoon meal recently at the Four Seasons Hotel San Francisco:

• Steak

• Baked potato

• Bread

• Lemonade

• Ice water*

• Vanilla ice cream

Cost: $85 (including tip). *Free

Per diem data

• NBA per diem: $106, after being $102 last season. It is addressed in the collective-bargaining agreement and increases slightly each season, based on cost of living.

• Introduction of per diem: 1957 ($7).

• Per diem for preseason: A Nuggets player going on all three trips received about $1,000.

• Per diem for regular season: A Nuggets player going on all 23 trips will receive about $6,500.

• Taxes: Must be paid on a certain amount, depending on laws in the city where the team travels. Nuggets athletic trainer Jim Gillen offered a sample city daily figure of $62, so players visiting that city would be taxed on $44 of the per diem (41.5 percent).

'It's kind of like allowance'

Per diem through a sampling of NBA players:

• Nuggets forward Carmelo Anthony felt like a kid when he joined the NBA in 2003 and was told the per diem amount. "It's kind of like allowance," he said. "One-hundred dollars a day. That's crazy."

• When guard Chucky Atkins played in the Continental Basketball Association in 1996-97, he received $25 per diem. "It was Burger King, Subway, IHOP, Waffle House, Denny's," Atkins said of his restaurants of choice. When Atkins, now with the Memphis Grizzlies, made the NBA in 1999-2000, he continued those eating habits but soon learned from veterans. "They told me you've got to fuel your body with some good food," said Atkins, saying the advice has helped, and he now uses the bulk of his $106 per diem.

• As the Nuggets' only rookie, guard Yakhouba Diawara has added duties. But don't think he's not compensated. "Sometimes I give it to 'Kouba,' " center Marcus Camby said of his per diem. "He doesn't have the big contracts like a lot of us. I take care of him. I've bought him suits, PlayStation and an iPod." For Camby's generosity, Diawara sometimes carries bags and gets food for Camby. But it doesn't sound like he's overworked. "I just help him out, nothing too much," Diawara said.

• Houston Rockets center Yao Ming is making $12.5 million this season. When he was out for 2 1/2 months earlier this season because of a broken right leg, he was asked by a Houston Chronicle reporter why he went on a certain trip. Yao quipped it was so he could get the "road trip per diem."

• Forward Eduardo Najera is perhaps the Nuggets' most energetic player. He makes sure he doesn't waste his energy on the road trying to save money on food. "In my first two years in the league, I'd go to places like (Denny's)," said Najera, who broke in with the Dallas Mavericks in 2000-01. "But I learned from the veterans it's better to get your rest rather than go walking around. It's an investment to stay off your feet and get (hotel) room service and pay the extra money so you can perform better."

• Money for food? Yes. But New Or- leans/Oklahoma City Hornets guard Devin Brown uses his per diem for a lot more. "DVDs, video games, batteries, headphones. Stuff like that," Brown said.

• A lot has changed in a year for Rockets rookie forward Steve Novak. He played last season for Mar- quette. "We got a $110 check every two weeks," he said. "That's about the same as we get in the NBA for one day."

• So do players dislike two games in two days? Not necessarily. "I love it when we have a back-to-back," Nuggets center Jamal Sampson said. "That means we get free breakfast." If the team's second game of a back-to-back is on the road, the Nuggets have a breakfast meeting at the hotel instead of a shootaround.

[Ruh-Roh]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1110596/index.htm

Matt Bonner hands down. I have that copy of SI somewhere around my house.:lol

[El Kabong]

I remember in Shaq's book how he talked about he spent around $3 million in his first week after he was drafted. Just went crazy, bought a house, bought his parents a house, cars, stereo equipment, TV's etc.

[thomaspynchon]

If I had to venture a guess, i'd say the white players. they tend to not spend half their salary on 'tricked out' cars and 'bling bling'.

[PHILA]

Loose balls: easy money, hard fouls, cheap laughs & true love in the NBA - Jayson Williams



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[Rake2204]

This is from Rocky Mountain News a few years back regarding the Denver Nuggets and the way in which they spend their per diem.

It's a really fun read.
Sweet article. Thanks for the contribution.

My friend was in the Washington Nationals system for a few years and while he was a low level prospect, he was friends with some mid- to high-enders who happened to sign moderate signing bonuses. He said while he and most of his crew would be slumming on their per diem (much less than NBA's, obviously) the signing bonus guy would stop at Best Buy every time he saw one and splurge on dozens of DVDs at a time. I don't even think the signing bonus was that crazy, like $10,000 or something.

Inevitably, I know at least one of his signing bonus friends burnt through his cash pretty quick, blew out his arm, had to sell his Chrysler 300C and moved back in with his parents.

I'm pretty sure I'd pocket as much of my cash as humanly possible. I always had this plan that if I ended up with millions of dollars, I'd live normally, but just not have to worry about every day expenses as much as I used to. Like, it'd be nice to have my car break down and not live in fear of how much it's going to cost to repair it.

[MaxFly]

I'd nominate kobe for this, dude lives in newport coast which is pricey but not flashy. It's not no 50 million dollar house or anything and i've never heard of him going on a shopping spree or own any ridiculous vehicles. Pretty impressive considering he was one of the youngest NBA players without a college education.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4g1ZtzuGj8&t=2m42s

[Rake2204]

Yes but i doubt he owns it, it's to avoid traffic.

I'll nominate Chris Kaman next

I'm not sure if these clips would prove Chris to be frugal or not, but I always thought he seemed to spend his money in unique ways at least that appeared relatively original and fun.

Kaman testing a Barret .50 Caliber in his backyard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0PgZeumSJI

Kaman's $10,000 Fireworks Display (can't find the full video - much more entertaining - likely taken down due to legal reasons): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KxqR-FiVKTk



Chris Kaman Blasts Off Enough Fireworks To Destroy Small Nation

When you’re an athlete worth millions, money ain’t nothing to worry about so why not use some of it to blast off a fireworks show so big NASA gets jealous? That’s what Clippers Center Chris Kaman was thinking this Fourth of July when he gathered up a group of his friends and dropped $10,000 on a cargo of illegal explosives that makes this video so awesome you’d think you were watching a Rambo flick. With the goal set at, ‘Entertaining all of Michigan’, Kaman proceeded to light off a show so spectacular the only way it could have gotten better is if they attached some stray cats to the rockets and blasted them off too (which I plan on doing at some point in my life, as long as PETA doesn’t read With Leather). After Kaman saw the haul of fireworks sitting in his dealer’s garage ready to get picked up, he exclaimed, “WE’RE GOING TO JAIL, DUDE!”

Was anybody hurt during the show? Probably. http://withleather.uproxx.com/2010/07/chris-kaman-blasts-off-enough-fireworks-to-destroy-a-small-nation

On second thought, maybe spending $10,000 on fireworks can be interpreted as a shot to his frugality.

[JohnnySic]

This guy:

http://protectthepaint.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/10/Antoine-Walker-Broke.jpg

[Jordan23GOAT]

Matt Bonner for sure. Not sure about now. Kinda stopped following him after he went to my least favorite team. I loved watching him Bonner the Heat though :lol

[SsKSpurs21]

Matt Bonner's Crib

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljMpmG-5Yrk

Matt Bonner talks about buying a car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCH8Y_nyPGc&feature=related

[50inchvertical]

If I had to venture a guess, i'd say the white players. they tend to not spend half their salary on 'tricked out' cars and 'bling bling'.
This guy...

It's like dude has a Blackberry app that notifies him whenever race is mentioned in a post so he can come in with his overdone race based spiel.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_0WIkG91nZc8/TBG2K2gm9OI/AAAAAAAABGM/Nit7-x-h2mY/s400/Andrew+Bogut+car+buying.jpg

Also here's Bogut paying 920k for a car

[Cowboy Thunder]

Thanks for the RockyMountainNews article. Good read

[f0und]

LOL kobe has to be the best at everything doesnt he? kobe kids just cant accept anything less. whats next? he'd make the best president?

[TylerOO]

I'd say Gerald Wallace. He seems like a real smart, classy dude.

[For_Three]

Kobe bought a ferrari for his wife then spent an additional triple figure amount to make it an automatic for her.


I thought it was a Lambo?

[boozehound]

I'd nominate kobe for this, dude lives in newport coast which is pricey but not flashy. It's not no 50 million dollar house or anything and i've never heard of him going on a shopping spree or own any ridiculous vehicles. Pretty impressive considering he was one of the youngest NBA players without a college education.
cmon now. he bought a 4 million $ sorry I ****ed up gift for his wife and takes a copter to shootaround.

This post takes the absurdity of kobe homerism to a new level. I know he has to be considered the best at everything (I hear his C++ programming is off the hook), but sheesh!

[Crystallas]

If Ron Artest still spent his free-time working at Taco Bell, it would be him.

[Penny37]

cmon now. he bought a 4 million $ sorry I ****ed up gift for his wife and takes a copter to shootaround.

This post takes the absurdity of kobe homerism to a new level. I know he has to be considered the best at everything (I hear his C++ programming is off the hook), but sheesh!
Couldn't have put it better myself.

[Go Getter]

Gordon Hayward bought a Honda Accord as his first car.

[For_Three]

cmon now. he bought a 4 million $ sorry I ****ed up gift for his wife and takes a copter to shootaround.

This post takes the absurdity of kobe homerism to a new level. I know he has to be considered the best at everything (I hear his C++ programming is off the hook), but sheesh!


C++ haha I love it. I don't think any NBA player knows what that even is?

[get these NETS]

gotta laugh at the blatant envy


reminds me of the line from Harlem Nights


http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjA2NDk5MjM4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjkxMDkwMw@@._ V1._SX640_SY421_.jpg

"look at you guys with your fancy cars and houses....meanwhile I'm living in a
Effin hovel "

[Go Getter]

gotta laugh at the blatant envy


reminds me of the line from Harlem Nights


http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMjA2NDk5MjM4OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMjkxMDkwMw@@._ V1._SX640_SY421_.jpg

"look at you guys with your fancy cars and houses....meanwhile I'm living in a
Effin hovel "
:oldlol:

"No. This is tailor made to fit."

He was hot.


:oldlol:

[Godzuki]

Brian Cardinal :pimp:

[get these NETS]

:oldlol:

"No. This is tailor made to fit."

He was hot.


:oldlol:

I buy off the rack myself.

[Go Getter]

I buy off the rack myself.
I know it was a racist joke but when he said, "there must not be a ____ in Harlem with a healthy tooth in his mouth" I lol'd a little because we all knew Ray was lying.

[The_Yearning]

Probably some white guy.

[the_wise_one]

Larry Bird. Leeched Patrick Ewing for free beer.

[Jasper]

I think Nash probably drives a Nash :confusedshrug:

I know the black momba - drives a red car (you would of thought black) :D

[Rake2204]

Again, only a small aspect of his lifestyle, but Rasheed Wallace drove a Ford Bronco for a lonnnnng time, I think when he was with Portland mostly. He said his teammates used to call him O.J.

[ProfessorMurder]

Louis Amundson rides a bicycle to games.

[wagexslave]

My guess would be the following (relative to income, of course):

Brandon Roy
Kobe Bryant
Steve Blake
Raja Bell
Kevin Martin
Yao Ming
Shane Battier
Kirk Hinrich
Tim Duncan
Grant Hill
Ray Allen
Loul Deng
Chauncey Billups
Steph Curry
David Lee
Chris Duhon
Luke Walton
Pau Gasol
Chris Paul
Kevin Love
Steve Nash
Elton Brand
Manu Ginobili
Derek Fisher
Jose Calderon
Antawn Jamison
Gordon Hayward
Evan Turner
Devin Harris
Andres Nocioni
Jerryd Bayless
Matt Carroll
So basically the whole league? :oldlol:

[wagexslave]

Louis Amundson rides a bicycle to games.
WE HAVE A WINRAR! :cheers:

[CelticBaller]

Greg Oden rides a stretcher