Has Jason Terry always been a di**?

[Clippersfan86]

Ok so tonight after the game he made these comments..

"It's a game we had to win," Terry said. "They're a bad team. They're not a good team. "It's a good team (Thursday, Lakers)."

I also remember after the Bulls whooped on the Mavs he got pissed off and postgame said "Derrick Rose is the Bulls. Without him they aren't sh**" or w/e. Has he always been a douche? I never remembered him acting like this in previous years with Dallas but what's up with the disrespect towards other teams?

[crisoner]

He has been like that for a minute....nothing new.

But yeah dude is not humble one bit.

[crosso√er]

Yes he is a douche bag.
About a month ago, when Dallas were like three games ahead of the Lakers, he said:

"We're not worried about them (Lakers), we're looking ahead."
Well guess what buddy? You're behind now.

He's a self absorbed prick who has never won anything in this league except in the regular season, you'd think he had like ten rings the way he speaks to the media sometime.

Arrogant piece of shit.

[NuggetsFan]

Nothing wrong with what he said IMO. He basically just said you have to win games against bad teams. Like or not the Clippers are 30 win team and aren't in the playoffs. For a team like Dallas, there a bad team and they have to win those games.

Guess he could have chose "nicer" words to use but I'm assuming he was asked right after the game so I'm sure the last thing he was thinking about was being all genuine and kind PR bullshit.

[ThaSwagg3r]

He has always been a dick, but he was just being honest there.

[crosso√er]

Nothing wrong with what he said IMO. He basically just said you have to win games against bad teams. Like or not the Clippers are 30 win team and aren't in the playoffs. For a team like Dallas, there a bad team and they have to win those games.

Guess he could have chose "nicer" words to use but I'm assuming he was asked right after the game so I'm sure the last thing he was thinking about was being all genuine and kind PR bullshit.

They're a good team when healthy though.
He's not humble at all, he shows no sportsmanship.

Every time he makes a big basket or his team wins a big game; he'll overreact and put down his competition. He's a loser.

[NuggetsFan]

Yes he is a douche bag.
About a month ago, when Dallas were like three games ahead of the Lakers, he said:

"We're not worried about them (Lakers), we're looking ahead."
Well guess what buddy? You're behind now.

He's a self absorbed prick who has never won anything in this league except in the regular season, you'd think he had like ten rings the way he speaks to the media sometime.

Arrogant piece of shit.

I hope your like 12 years old :oldlol:

He's an arrogant piece of shit? Based on what? like 20 media comments?. What if people made assumptions on what little they actually knew of us?.

People need to stop pretending they knew who these guy's are based on what on media comments. Even myself am guilty of this. We don't know NBA players, we don't know celebrities. We should probably stop trying to analyze there personalities :oldlol:

[dee-rose]

that was honest, but yeah terry's a dick. I remember that game. We were playing without Noah and Boozer and Deng was struggling. :facepalm And then there was the comment on how the lakers couldn't overtake the 2nd spot from Dallas

[Christofire]

terry is a beast and he plays hard all day every day...plus he's clutch..i like guys talkin the truth

[crosso√er]

I hope your like 12 years old :oldlol:

He's an arrogant piece of shit? Based on what? like 20 media comments?. What if people made assumptions on what little they actually knew of us?.

People need to stop pretending they knew who these guy's are based on what on media comments. Even myself am guilty of this. We don't know NBA players, we don't know celebrities. We should probably stop trying to analyze there personalities :oldlol:

He's paid millions of dollars to be a role model, playing the game he loves. This isn't a business person or a doctor; he's an arrogant basketball player, I don't know him as a person so obviously I'm not making that assumption.

They are the byproduct of our criticism. Otherwise the media wouldn't be making billions of dollars interviewing them for us "fans".

I'm a 12 year old because I have an opinion on a player who constantly comes off as a douche bag? You have a correct view on life, just not in this situation.

[NuggetsFan]

They're a good team when healthy though.
He's not humble at all, he shows no sportsmanship.

Every time he makes a big basket or his team wins a big game; he'll overreact and put down his competition. He's a loser.

What players don't do something when they make a momentum changing basketball? Your calling out over half of the sports world at the moment.

And who cares if there good when healthy? L.A Clippers aren't a good team right now. As a Dallas Maverick you need to beat teams your better than. It's basically what he said. What's he suppose to say? Maybe what other athletes do. "Well the Clippers played a great game, they've got good youth and are an excellent team. We needed to beat them out there tonight". You actually believe people when they say that? Who knows if there telling the truth? I sure as shit don't and neither do you. Just like you don't know Jason Terry.

Ridiculous we as fan pretend to know how these guy's are after a 20 second ESPN interview. Or how somebody reacts after winning a championship or making a big 3 pointer. The fact is we don't. Kevin Durant acts extremely humble but there's no way of knowing if he's a complete douche outside of the sport. Jason Terry has made some douchey comments, not going to pretend like I know his personality and pretend like I can assume he's a "loser".

[crosso√er]

What players don't do something when they make a momentum changing basketball? Your calling out over half of the sports world at the moment.

And who cares if there good when healthy? L.A Clippers aren't a good team right now. As a Dallas Maverick you need to beat teams your better than. It's basically what he said. What's he suppose to say? Maybe what other athletes do. "Well the Clippers played a great game, they've got good youth and are an excellent team. We needed to beat them out there tonight". You actually believe people when they say that? Who knows if there telling the truth? I sure as shit don't and neither do you. Just like you don't know Jason Terry.

Ridiculous we as fan pretend to know how these guy's are after a 20 second ESPN interview. Or how somebody reacts after winning a championship or making a big 3 pointer. The fact is we don't. Kevin Durant acts extremely humble but there's no way of knowing if he's a complete douche outside of the sport. Jason Terry has made some douchey comments, not going to pretend like I know his personality and pretend like I can assume he's a "loser".

Dallas won by six points; Clippers are no push over, when they were healthy, they gave teams like the Lakers a ton of problems.

You answered your own question; of course he should have been more humble about the win. He could have emphasized it was a tough win, and that it was a game they should have won.

Not flat out call them a bad team; if this was the first time Terry has said something disrespectful, I wouldn't have cared. But he has a history of sounding like an arrogant piece of shit.

[#1SportsFan86]

Ok so tonight after the game he made these comments..

"It's a game we had to win," Terry said. "They're a bad team. They're not a good team. "It's a good team (Thursday, Lakers)."

I also remember after the Bulls whooped on the Mavs he got pissed off and postgame said "Derrick Rose is the Bulls. Without him they aren't sh**" or w/e. Has he always been a douche? I never remembered him acting like this in previous years with Dallas but what's up with the disrespect towards other teams?

So you mad at him for calling it like he see's it with the Clippers?....:applause:

[whoartthou]

terry is a beast and he plays hard all day every day...plus he's clutch..i like guys talkin the truth
:roll: :roll: :roll:

not in the playoffs, son

[Clippersfan86]

First off.. Are Carlisle, Dirk and Kidd lying when they say the Clippers are a playoff team when healthy that just needs experience? Or is Terry full of shit when he says we are a bad team? I agree Nugget that the Mavs DO have to win and that we are a lesser team. To flat out disrespect an opponent and call them a bad team though, especially when they aren't?

How many opponents have said the Clippers were an extremely tough team to play and have playoff talent if healthy? Seems like most teams have. Nugget your own coach George Karl flat out said when we are healthy and playing well we don't have a weakness after DeAndre Jordan stomped you guys out for 14 points, 20 rebounds and 7 blocked shots and the rest of our guys killed it too.

Point here was like Crossover said it's poor sportsmanship. Why would you diss another team like that out of the blue? I know to you Nugget it wasn't a diss but the way he words these things is harsh and disrespectful. The comment about Derrick Rose being THE entire Bulls when they have Deng, Boozer and other guys? Disrespectful!

[thomaspynchon]

i remember last season at halftime against the suns

" this team is not good at defense, we need to punish them"

[Clippersfan86]

Let me remind you Nugget. The Clippers are one of 2 teams this season who have beaten every single division leader in the league. Don't underestimate the talent or potential the team has. We lost by 6 today to Dallas and 7 last time without Eric Gordon or Kaman. Beaten the Celtics, Bulls, Lakers, Heat, Hornets, Spurs and Thunder.

[thomaspynchon]

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Let me remind you Nugget. The Clippers are one of 2 teams this season who have beaten every single division leader in the league. Don't underestimate the talent or potential the team has. We lost by 6 today to Dallas and 7 last time without Eric Gordon or Kaman. Beaten the Celtics, Bulls, Lakers, Heat, Hornets, Spurs and Thunder.[/QUOTE

The mavs were without beaubois and butler when they played the clippers the last time.

currently beat you without butler and with a badly injured marion.

your injury excuse holds no water

[whoartthou]

i remember last season at halftime against the suns

" this team is not good at defense, we need to punish them"
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:

[#1SportsFan86]

First off.. Are Carlisle, Dirk and Kidd lying when they say the Clippers are a playoff team when healthy that just needs experience? Or is Terry full of shit when he says we are a bad team? I agree Nugget that the Mavs DO have to win and that we are a lesser team. To flat out disrespect an opponent and call them a bad team though, especially when they aren't?

How many opponents have said the Clippers were an extremely tough team to play and have playoff talent if healthy? Seems like most teams have. Nugget your own coach George Karl flat out said when we are healthy and playing well we don't have a weakness after DeAndre Jordan stomped you guys out for 14 points, 20 rebounds and 7 blocked shots and the rest of our guys killed it too.

Point here was like Crossover said it's poor sportsmanship. Why would you diss another team like that out of the blue? I know to you Nugget it wasn't a diss but the way he words these things is harsh and disrespectful. The comment about Derrick Rose being THE entire Bulls when they have Deng, Boozer and other guys? Disrespectful!

Why are you taken something that Jason Terry said so seriously?...I don't pay Terry any mind untill he backs up his talk in the playoffs.

[NuggetsFan]

Dude by that standard any team in the NBA isn't bad. Any team can step up and win on any given night. Bobcats? They use to always beat the Lakers. Give the health kick a rest too. If Portland was healthy who knows what the NBA would be like. Every team deals with injury. It's just the way it goes. You don't get any bonus points.

Clippers are a 30 win team. Dallas is 3rd place. Clippers compared to the Mavericks are a "bad" team. Jason Terry simply pointing that out and implying they need to win games like that. Ya sure bad might be a little harsh but I'd rather harsh than fake BS that most people in the NBA spewed. "both teams tried hard" garbage like that.

Comment isn't perfect but hardly thread worthy and being ready to declare Jason Terry an asshole. Calling it like he see's it as far as I'm concerned.

Seriously what word would be acceptable and not ruffle people's panties? Average? Potentially good team in the future? Medicore? Good? Great?. Some of those words would change him from an asshole to a liar :oldlol:

[crosso√er]

Dude by that standard any team in the NBA isn't bad. Any team can step up and win on any given night. Bobcats? They use to always beat the Lakers. Give the health kick a rest too. If Portland was healthy who knows what the NBA would be like. Every team deals with injury. It's just the way it goes. You don't get any bonus points.

Clippers are a 30 win team. Dallas is 3rd place. Clippers compared to the Mavericks are a "bad" team. Jason Terry simply pointing that out and implying they need to win games like that. Ya sure bad might be a little harsh but I'd rather harsh than fake BS that most people in the NBA spewed. "both teams tried hard" garbage like that.

Comment isn't perfect but hardly thread worthy and being ready to declare Jason Terry an asshole. Calling it like he see's it as far as I'm concerned.

Seriously what word would be acceptable and not ruffle people's panties? Average? Potentially good team in the future? Medicore? Good? Great?. Some of those words would change him from an asshole to a liar :oldlol:

I'm sure no one asked Terry if Clippers were a "bad" team, I'm positive he said that at his own disposal. He has always been arrogant, shows very little sportsmanship to his opponents.

What does lying have to do with anything? He says stupid shit all the time, no one directly asks him "are the Clippers a bad team" he just flat out says it and then eats his words every single time come playoff time.

Just like a month ago when he was all cocky about catching the Spurs and not worried about the two time defending championss at all; because his team beat LA in their first meeting. :facepalm

Dude just disrespects his opposition and comes off as a douche bag because of the things he says.

[get these NETS]

Terry is a clown, not for his comments.....but for punching Finley in the family jewels in the playoffs.

[Clippersfan86]

Dude by that standard any team in the NBA isn't bad. Any team can step up and win on any given night. Bobcats? They use to always beat the Lakers. Give the health kick a rest too. If Portland was healthy who knows what the NBA would be like. Every team deals with injury. It's just the way it goes. You don't get any bonus points.

Clippers are a 30 win team. Dallas is 3rd place. Clippers compared to the Mavericks are a "bad" team. Jason Terry simply pointing that out and implying they need to win games like that. Ya sure bad might be a little harsh but I'd rather harsh than fake BS that most people in the NBA spewed. "both teams tried hard" garbage like that.

Comment isn't perfect but hardly thread worthy and being ready to declare Jason Terry an asshole. Calling it like he see's it as far as I'm concerned.

Seriously what word would be acceptable and not ruffle people's panties? Average? Potentially good team in the future? Medicore? Good? Great?. Some of those words would change him from an asshole to a liar :oldlol:

Dallas won by 6............. So how much better are they really? Won by 7 last time............ See the point? If you blow a team out by 30 call them a bad team but you get by with refs helping you late in the 4th quarter and barely pull off a win vs a "bad" team.. what does that make you? Let me guess.. Dallas was taking it easy on the Clippers?

[crosso√er]

Terry is a clown, not for his comments.....but for punching Finley in the family jewels in the playoffs.

I :oldlol: .

[thomaspynchon]

Terry is a clown, not for his comments.....but for punching Finley in the family jewels in the playoffs.

Imagine having a 6'8'' 230 lb black guy sitting on top of your head in the heat of battle. You might be prone to do something you'd regret later on.

[Clippersfan86]

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]Let me remind you Nugget. The Clippers are one of 2 teams this season who have beaten every single division leader in the league. Don't underestimate the talent or potential the team has. We lost by 6 today to Dallas and 7 last time without Eric Gordon or Kaman. Beaten the Celtics, Bulls, Lakers, Heat, Hornets, Spurs and Thunder.[/QUOTE

The mavs were without beaubois and butler when they played the clippers the last time.

currently beat you without butler and with a badly injured marion.

your injury excuse holds no water

Difference is Dallas is a deeper team to begin with :confusedshrug: . Since Butler has been out they have IMPROVED in most statistical categories. As for Roddy.. what has he contributed lately that makes him a difference maker? Especially compared to freaking Eric Gordon and Kaman. Of course that point holds water.

[crosso√er]

Dallas won by 6............. So how much better are they really? Won by 7 last time............ See the point? If you blow a team out by 30 call them a bad team but you get by with refs helping you late in the 4th quarter and barely pull off a win vs a "bad" team.. what does that make you? Let me guess.. Dallas was taking it easy on the Clippers?

Don't worry man, hopefully the Lakers can get some redemption for y'all tonight. No one talks to our little bro like that and gets away with it!!

You know the Clips are my 2nd team at heart, always check up the score on them and hope they do well.

[Clippersfan86]

Nonetheless Dallas is a much better team obviously. I expected a loss. Just saw this postgame comment and thought it was disrespectful and uncalled for. You beat a 30 win team by 6 and you talk about how bad they are? :lol

[Clippersfan86]

Don't worry man, hopefully the Lakers can get some redemption for y'all tonight. No one talks to our little bro like that and gets away with it!!

You know the Clips are my 2nd team at heart, always check up the score on them and hope they do well.

I always root for you guys when we aren't playing you. I'll make sure to watch and chill in the game thread with you guys tomorrow. Gotta redeem LA for us :cheers: .

[get these NETS]

Imagine having a 6'8'' 230 lb black guy sitting on top of your head in the heat of battle. You might be prone to do something you'd regret later on.


?????


Your sis doesn't mind when it happens to her.

[thomaspynchon]

?????


Your sis doesn't mind when it happens to her.

I am pretty sure black people get shot on arrival if they enter my nice neighborhood.

[get these NETS]

I am pretty sure black people get shot on arrival if they enter my nice neighborhood.


That's why she at HIS crib.

go knock on her door, bet she's not there.

[thomaspynchon]

That's why she at HIS crib.

go knock on her door, bet she's not there.

I am all the way in NSW man! Hard to fly to the states!

[get these NETS]

I am all the way in NSW man! Hard to fly to the states!



make like a leaf and get out of here.

[Clippersfan86]

make like a leaf and get out of here.

Are you really trolling with jokes about people's family dude? Grow up :no:

[thomaspynchon]

make like a leaf and get out of here.

I did man! Enjoy Obama's America! Some 300 lb fat black ***** named Shaqueeewkwa will be your next boss!

[get these NETS]

Are you really trolling with jokes about people's family dude? Grow up :no:


oh you didn't see the black man sitting on top of his head comment?


or you saw it and didn't care


either way....If I violated a rule, I'll hear about it.....but until then...

take my username and change an E to a U.

[get these NETS]

I did man! Enjoy Obama's America! Some 300 lb fat black ***** named Shaqueeewkwa will be your next boss!


http://genyjourney.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/quicksand.jpg

[Clippersfan86]

oh you didn't see the black man sitting on top of his head comment?


or you saw it and didn't care


either way....If I violated a rule, I'll hear about it.....but until then...

take my username and change an E to a U.

Moderators don't do shit around here.. I'm just telling you to grow up. You're making an entire page trolling about someone's family out of the blue. :confusedshrug:

[All Net]

He's a moron thats talks alot of crap

his last quote

"We aren't concerned about the Lakers, they are behind us, we are looking ahead"

or some crap like that.

[get these NETS]

Moderators don't do shit around here.. I'm just telling you to grow up. You're making an entire page trolling about someone's family out of the blue. :confusedshrug:


Like I said before....., until you go after people for race baiting trolling also, just worry about the guy you see in the mirror.

[Clippersfan86]

Like I said before....., until you go after people for race baiting trolling also, just worry about the guy you see in the mirror.

Gotta love diffusion. :hammerhead:

[Clippersfan86]

He's a moron thats talks alot of crap

his last quote

"We aren't concerned about the Lakers, they are behind us, we are looking ahead"

or some crap like that.

Yea like Crossover said.. it's not about 1 thing. Had this been the only thing he's said I wouldn't of found it thread worthy but he's already insulted like 4 or 5 different teams this season with these disrespectful comments lol.

[All Net]

Yea like Crossover said.. it's not about 1 thing. Had this been the only thing he's said I wouldn't of found it thread worthy but he's already insulted like 4 or 5 different teams this season with these disrespectful comments lol.

At the end of the day Clips are in a far better position to contend in the long run so I wouldn't worry.At the end of the day a team that plays Terry plenty of minutes aren't winning anything.

[Clippersfan86]

At the end of the day Clips are in a far better position to contend in the long run so I wouldn't worry.At the end of the day a team that plays Terry plenty of minutes aren't winning anything.

For sure. It's weird to me. The contending teams who have won rings in recent years like Boston, Lakers and Spurs... while cocky in their own right and confident.. have at least EARNED that right. Why is Mark Cuban and a couple of their players so cocky/confident with the state of their team. Do they realize that all non Mavericks fans view them as regular season champions/playoff chokes? They haven't won shit yet.

Despite one of the highest payrolls, unlimited support from owner and TONS of depth and talent the last decade. Spurs, Celtics and Lakers have done far more with less overall talent. It's just weird. Like I can go on Spurs, Lakers and Celtics forums and debate but for whatever reason Mavs fans rub me the wrong way usually.

Btw this is no disrespect to the well grounded, respectful Mavs fans because I'm sure you exist.

[OKCThunderUP]

This is some petty shit to make a thread about. Your record indicates you are a bad team regardless of how much injured talent is sitting on the bench.

Is he not correct in his assessment? The Mavs are the #3 seed. If they intend to make a run in the postseason they have to put away bad teams. They did that tonight.

Crying over spilled milk here.

[Clippersfan86]

This is some petty shit to make a thread about. Your record indicates you are a bad team regardless of how much injured talent is sitting on the bench.

Is he not correct in his assessment? The Mavs are the #3 seed. If they intend to make a run in the postseason they have to put away bad teams. They did that tonight.

Crying over spilled milk here.

Did you read any of the thread? He's made comments about the Bulls being a shitty team outside of Rose... and other lame comments about the Lakers, Spurs, Suns and who knows who else. If he was a proven champion... talk all the shit you want. If you're known as a choke.. why are you dissing other teams in the media?

[All Net]

For sure. It's weird to me. The contending teams who have won rings in recent years like Boston, Lakers and Spurs... while cocky in their own right and confident.. have at least EARNED that right. Why is Mark Cuban and a couple of their players so cocky/confident with the state of their team. Do they realize that all non Mavericks fans view them as regular season champions/playoff chokes? They haven't won shit yet.

Despite one of the highest payrolls, unlimited support from owner and TONS of depth and talent the last decade. Spurs, Celtics and Lakers have done far more with less overall talent. It's just weird. Like I can go on Spurs, Lakers and Celtics forums and debate but for whatever reason Mavs fans rub me the wrong way usually.

Btw this is no disrespect to the well grounded, respectful Mavs fans because I'm sure you exist.

Thats the thing Lakers, Celtics, Spurs have won titles but you don't find their players talking crap about teams even teams with bad records. Well maybe Paul Pierce but thats about it. As they will tell you those games are sometimes the hardest to win as you have that target on your back.

It makes no sense to be so disrespectful towards other teams when you yourself aren't proven. Just seens odd to me.

Fine if you are a fan of the team you talk crap but as a player you have certain things you keep to yourself.

Kobe may talk shit about certain teams to his team-mates but he would never trash a team in public. It's embarrassing and puts that team down Just not good sportsmanship.

[Clippersfan86]

Thats the thing Lakers, Celtics, Spurs have won titles but you don't find their players talking crap about teams even teams with bad records. Well maybe Paul Pierce but thats about it. As they will tell you those games are sometimes the hardest to win as you have that target on your back.

It makes no sense to be so disrespectful towards other teams when you yourself aren't proven. Just seens odd to me.

Fine if you are a fan of the team you talk crap but as a player you have certain things you keep to yourself.

Kobe may talk shit about certain teams to his team-mates but he would never trash a team in public. It's embarrassing and puts that team down Just not good sportsmanship.

Exactly my point. The teams that have won rings recently won't go around saying how shitty the Cavs are right now etc. It's just not something you do. It's like at the end of the game if you're up by 10.. and you shoot the ball anyways and score instead of burning the clock etc. It's an unspoken rule. Even Pierce hasn't really dissed anyone but the Lakers that I recall and that's because you guys have a heated rivalry. That's different.

I talk trash in defense of my team but I'll never randomly bash another team out of the blue.. better or worse than mine. You don't see me trolling the Cavs or Kings fans on here. So I find it funny when fans of unproven teams like Dallas and Oklahoma troll Clipper fans. Celtics, Lakers and Spurs fans can talk all the shit they want because they have the rings.

[All Net]

Exactly my point. The teams that have won rings recently won't go around saying how shitty the Cavs are right now etc. It's just not something you do. It's like at the end of the game if you're up by 10.. and you shoot the ball anyways and score instead of burning the clock etc. It's an unspoken rule. Even Pierce hasn't really dissed anyone but the Lakers that I recall and that's because you guys have a heated rivalry. That's different.

I talk trash in defense of my team but I'll never randomly bash another team out of the blue.. better or worse than mine. You don't see me trolling the Cavs or Kings fans on here. So I find it funny when fans of unproven teams like Dallas and Oklahoma troll Clipper fans. Celtics, Lakers and Spurs fans can talk all the shit they want because they have the rings.

Shame there aren't more level headed fans like you on here.

Even as a Laker fan I would never talk crap about a team on a main forum and start threads or go into game threads talking crap about teams with bad records. No point really. You get frustrated when you lose to those teams but i mainly get pissed more on the Laker forum I post at. Miami fans are just as annoying considering how unproven they are and how arrogant they are talking trash to teams who have won titles when they havn't won shit and have only 1 title in their franchise and a team who still celebrates division banners.

[Brook(lyn)Lopez]

You got trolled in real life by Jason Terry, and totally took the bait! :lol

[Clippersfan86]

Shame there aren't more level headed fans like you on here.

Even as a Laker fan I would never talk crap about a team on a main forum and start threads or go into game threads talking crap about teams with bad records. No point really. You get frustrated when you lose to those teams but i mainly get pissed more on the Laker forum I post at. Miami fans are just as annoying considering how unproven they are and how arrogant they are talking trash to teams who have won titles when they havn't won shit and have only 1 title in their franchise and a team who still celebrates division banners.

:cheers: . Like I always say to fans of better teams who do talk trash... "Don't you guys have bigger fish to fry?". Like the Mavs fans/team should be focused on securing HCA and the playoffs right now and not getting caught up on dissing lesser teams like the Clips.

I agree we can't forget the arrogance/sense of entitlement a lot of HEAT fans have right now. In their defense the TRUE HEAT fans aren't acting like this. It's all these young, new idiot fans that started watching when Lebron joined. I love that GIF people post around here of Lebron saying "Not 1. or 2.. or 3.. or 4.. or 5.. or 6.. but 7 or 8 rings" :lol . I think Lebron's personality is carrying over into the fans.

[Clippersfan86]

You got trolled in real life by Jason Terry, and totally took the bait! :lol

I'm up late... caught the comments made a thread about it because it's a topic a lot of us could talk about given the fact that he's trash talked more than 5 teams this season. I'm not pounding in walls or anything :oldlol: .

[NuggetsFan]

Aren't you contradicting yourself by getting upset about Terry's comments but turning around taking stabs at the Dallas Mavericks? :confusedshrug:

[Clippersfan86]

Aren't you contradicting yourself by getting upset about Terry's comments but turning around taking stabs at the Dallas Mavericks? :confusedshrug:

Nope. I'm pointing out the simple fact that people in glass houses shouldn't cast stones. Dallas hasn't done enough to warrant treating another team or fans like 2nd rate citizens. I'm not randomly dissing the Mavs or their fans. Like I said... you'll be hard pressed to find me randomly insulting another team or it's fans unless it's done in defense of my team.

I know enough about every team in this league to where if someone puts my team on blast.. I'm going to do the same. Mutual respect.

I didn't say you can never say anything negative about another team. It's all about the way it's done. For example.. Terry's comments aren't just about the Clippers. It's poor sportsmanship he's shown other teams, good and bad. I wouldn't of made this thread if it was just about the Clips. I made it because I remembered the Bulls one too where he disrespected their entire team. If we were a rival team... then w/e all gloves off. No need to piss on a lesser team in the media though. I think you're intelligent enough to understand this from my perspective based on other posts you've written.

Nothing about this is complex or difficult to comprehend.

I wanted to hear from everyone else.. what they think of Terry.. and the comments he's made like this.

[OriginalNameGuy]

Don't know, seems like he is just speaking the truth isn't that what we want our athletes to do more instead of saying cliche's(We're just taking it one day at at time, We're playing hard, They are a good team, etc. etc.) all the time

[Quizno]

current clippers = bad

clippers + 2 years = beast

[kentatm]

holy shit. this thread is ridiculous.

Look, i don't mean to be a prick but... THE CLIPPERS ARE A BAD TEAM THAT DALLAS SHOULD BEAT.

the Clips beating top teams in each division means jack shit. I am sorry but it does. Yes, the Clippers have a nice young core but they are still a BAD team when it comes down to it. If that wasn't true, they would have a better record.

I don't want to hear some shit about oh, well we have had injuries. EVERY team deals with injuries at some point. Dallas alone lost Caron Butler for the year, Roddy was out until just before the AllStar break, and Dirk was out with a knee injury for a few weeks he had to rush back from. They have had 3 starters miss major time and yet they are still in the top 3 of the West.

So yes, the Clippers are a bad team Dallas SHOULD beat.

Yes, Terry talks a ton of noise. I wish sometimes he would keep quiet. He could have said things more diplomatically. However, at the end of the day, he is usually RIGHT.

While it can sometimes be grating, in the end, I don't mind that he has a "F U we da bess" attitude. You should want guys like that on your team.

I'm not even a huge fan of Terry either. To me, the dude is just another Mo Willams/Bobby Jackson/Ben Gordon or any number of small SGs that live off of their jump shots with a me against the world attitude.

what I can say about Terry is I have met him in a professional setting multiple times and he has always been nice in those settings. He is a talker for sure. But he isnt an asshole from what I know. (I have only dealt with him when working in local media)

oh and PS.

Terry punched Fin (one of my all time favorite Mavs) in the nuts b/c Fin jumped on top of him and smashed his head into the floor. I was upset Terry did it but I can't fault him for reacting to his head getting jacked like that.




I dunno. Maybe I am just numb to getting shit on b/c during the 90s when I lived on the East Coast people would laugh in my face when I told them I was a Mavs fan.

But guess what? You Clips have a great future so long as Sterling doesn't screw it up. Blake and Gordon are going to be sick. You just aren't a good team now is all. You will be. And when you are, your players can say whatever they want.

[Clippersfan86]

current clippers = bad

clippers + 2 years = beast

:( maybe it's just me seeing my team for being better than they truly are.

[Clippersfan86]

holy shit. this thread is ridiculous.

Look, i don't mean to be a prick but... THE CLIPPERS ARE A BAD TEAM THAT DALLAS SHOULD BEAT.

the Clips beating top teams in each division means jack shit. I am sorry but it does. Yes, the Clippers have a nice young core but they are still a BAD team when it comes down to it. If that wasn't true, they would have a better record.

I don't want to hear some shit about oh, well we have had injuries. EVERY team deals with injuries at some point. Dallas alone lost Caron Butler for the year, Roddy was out until just before the AllStar break, and Dirk was out with a knee injury for a few weeks he had to rush back from. They have had 3 starters miss major time and yet they are still in the top 3 of the West.

So yes, the Clippers are a bad team Dallas SHOULD beat.

Yes, Terry talks a ton of noise. I wish sometimes he would keep quiet. He could have said things more diplomatically. However, at the end of the day, he is usually RIGHT.

While it can sometimes be grating, in the end, I don't mind that he has a "F U we da bess" attitude. You should want guys like that on your team.

I'm not even a huge fan of Terry either. To me, the dude is just another Mo Willams/Bobby Jackson/Ben Gordon or any number of small SGs that live off of their jump shots with a me against the world attitude.

what I can say about Terry is I have met him in a professional setting multiple times and he has always been nice in those settings. He is a talker for sure. But he isnt an asshole from what I know. (I have only dealt with him when working in local media)

oh and PS.

Terry punched Fin (one of my all time favorite Mavs) in the nuts b/c Fin jumped on top of him and smashed his head into the floor. I was upset Terry did it but I can't fault him for reacting to his head getting jacked like that.




I dunno. Maybe I am just numb to getting shit on b/c during the 90s when I lived on the East Coast people would laugh in my face when I told them I was a Mavs fan.

But guess what? You Clips have a great future so long as Sterling doesn't screw it up. Blake and Gordon are going to be sick. You just aren't a good team now is all. You will be. And when you are, your players can say whatever they want.


:cheers:

[Lebowski]

This is some petty shit to make a thread about. Your record indicates you are a bad team regardless of how much injured talent is sitting on the bench.

Is he not correct in his assessment? The Mavs are the #3 seed. If they intend to make a run in the postseason they have to put away bad teams. They did that tonight.

Crying over spilled milk here.

+1.

The Clippers, among many other teams are bad. Will the Clippers, whom are adults and pros going to cry about this? Poor Clippers.. Maybe they can try to work on becoming a good team so next time Blake can say "Oh we beat the Mavs, no worry they are a bad TEAM, and we beat bad TEAMS all the time".

I dont like the attitude today in the NBA amongst some players. Why does everyone have to be best friend forever? It takes away from the competition imo. This should fuel the Clipps so next time they meet the Mavs, Mavs better be ready or be runned over.

[crosso√er]

+1.

The Clippers, among many other teams are bad. Will the Clippers, whom are adults and pros going to cry about this? Poor Clippers.. Maybe they can try to work on becoming a good team so next time Blake can say "Oh we beat the Mavs, no worry they are a bad TEAM, and we beat bad TEAMS all the time".

I dont like the attitude today in the NBA amongst some players. Why does everyone have to be best friend forever? It takes away from the competition imo. This should fuel the Clipps so next time they meet the Mavs, Mavs better be ready or be runned over.

Our perception of players manifests in the general attitude displayed by the league in general; that's the key. Because sportsmanship for most part has been real positive, players like Terry who say stupid shit will get called out by the fans.

Just to clarify something; kentam and Nugget did make a good point and I totally agree. I consider Terry the player an arrogant douche bag, not the person. Of course in reality guys like Duncan & Fisher, who are for the most part display high level of sportsmanship could be people you can't stand. And Terry could be that guy you'd love to hang out, who is generous, considerate and genuine/up front. I am not judging his personality as a person, I am judging his personality as a basketball player.

But you guys are right, if the league displayed a lack of sportsmanship in today's league; this would be a non-issue. Unfortunately for Terry, the league is displaying a high level of sportsmanship for the most part and when a player like Terry says something stupid, he will get called out.

[Mrofir]

I hope your like 12 years old :oldlol:

He's an arrogant piece of shit? Based on what? like 20 media comments?. What if people made assumptions on what little they actually knew of us?.

People need to stop pretending they knew who these guy's are based on what on media comments. Even myself am guilty of this. We don't know NBA players, we don't know celebrities. We should probably stop trying to analyze there personalities :oldlol:

so you're basically saying it doesn't matter how athletes act or what they say, because no matter what we're never going to truly get to know them.


allow me to propose a counter argument. Just like "normal" people, it DOES in fact reflect badly on an athlete when they can't control their verbal excrement for the <60 minutes per day when what they say matters. They KNOW reporters report what they say, that their image is directly aligned with their earnings potential, that the reporters go away after a little while. If we could hear the conversations players have on the team buses the NBA would probably lose half its fanbase.

Furthermore, what he says doesn't just affect him -- it affects his teammates as well, whether they like it or not. Last year his comments on Phoenix's defense AT HALFTIME of a game helped propel Phoenix to a 2nd half win, followed by an inspired run that got them all the way to the wire of games 5/6 of the WCF. They swept the Spurs team that took out the Mavs, and Dallas was fortunate not to face the Suns in the playoffs. It would have been the same lopsided series as was the case with the Spurs.

A 12 year old who is constantly under the impression that they are being harshly and unfairly judged would be one to make an argument that we have no business "judging" people based on the things they do and say.

[B-Easy8]

I don't see a problem with this, he is stating the truth. The Clippers are a bad team that the Mavs should beat and the Lakers are a good team that will actually challenge them.

[ihatetimthomas]

Yes he has always had a mouth but I see no problem with it. He is confident/arrogant, its his personality. I dont understand why people are making this a big deal. It's not, its just talking.

[crosso√er]

+1.

The Clippers, among many other teams are bad. Will the Clippers, whom are adults and pros going to cry about this? Poor Clippers.. Maybe they can try to work on becoming a good team so next time Blake can say "Oh we beat the Mavs, no worry they are a bad TEAM, and we beat bad TEAMS all the time".

I dont like the attitude today in the NBA amongst some players. Why does everyone have to be best friend forever? It takes away from the competition imo. This should fuel the Clipps so next time they meet the Mavs, Mavs better be ready or be runned over.

It is a pity thread, I agree. Especially if you're a fan of Terry or Dallas; so this might sound childish. But we as fans love to stir the pot all the time and the media is that driver. They interview players in hopes of getting a reaction like Shaq or Terry typically display for them; it's news.

No reporter likes a "politically" correct answer; but that doesn't mean players like Terry who say stupid stuff (and Shaquille) won't get ridiculed for their comments from the fans.

I mean Shaq has said some really dumb things before as a Laker; and I laughed at every single one of his jokes. Were other fans mad? In particular Kings fans? Of course and I'm sure similar threads were made about his comments and I'm sure Laker fans (including me) defended him at will. Am I a hypocrite? Not really. Because I don't blame those fans that were in my current position and now I have the license to speak my mind about Terry's comments; just like Sacramento fans had their right back in the day.

It's a never ending circle.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

He has always been a dick, but he was just being honest there.

This.

Like George Carlin says, "Most people in this country would rather be stroked than hear the truth. The United Strokes of America."

[PowerGlove]

Ok so tonight after the game he made these comments..

"It's a game we had to win," Terry said. "They're a bad team. They're not a good team. "It's a good team (Thursday, Lakers)."

I also remember after the Bulls whooped on the Mavs he got pissed off and postgame said "Derrick Rose is the Bulls. Without him they aren't sh**" or w/e. Has he always been a douche? I never remembered him acting like this in previous years with Dallas but what's up with the disrespect towards other teams?

I love Jason Terrry and he was talking about the Clippers...they are garbage. Not a good team in the least. Let's be real here, Derrick Rose is the Bulls. I'm trying to figure out what he said that was wrong.

*insert Jason Terry gif*

[creepingdeath]

Jason Terry is disappoint.

http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/568/terryface.gif

[kidachi]

I hated him since he blindsided Finley with a punch in the nuts..

[50inchvertical]

Seems like you are crying about nothing.

Are the Clippers not a bad team that Dallas should beat?

[OKCThunderUP]

current clippers = bad

clippers + 2 years = beast

Did you forget who owns the team? :oldlol:

[SCdac]

biggest douche in the league IMO. as far as trying to come off as macho, superior, full of confidence, etc. what's douchey about it is there's usually some bitterness to it, and half the time he opens his mouth (in the playoffs) I feel like his team loses. punching someone in the nuts from the ground is one of the most un-manly things I've seen, let alone against an ex teammate.

[oh the horror]

This.

Like George Carlin says, "Most people in this country would rather be stroked than hear the truth. The United Strokes of America."



Bingo. Its almost to the point these days, that we're so far up our own asses, in terms of bullshitting one another, that when ANYONE comes out with some real talk, or some straight blunt talk, we almost recoil in terror, and we all become offended for some odd reason.


We dont even know WHY we're offended anymore....we're just offended.

[ginobli2311]

I'm a huge Mavs fan, but Terry needs to shut up. The dude has been awful in the playoffs since 2006. He routinely disappears in big games and plays no defense whatsoever. Virtually everything he gets on offense comes off the Dirk pick and roll.

Dude needs to shut the **** up and man up in the playoffs for a change.

[greymatter]

It's been established that Jason Terry likes grabbing d!cks (Mike Finley's), so it's not much of a stretch that he is one as well.

[For_Three]

Bingo. Its almost to the point these days, that we're so far up our own asses, in terms of bullshitting one another, that when ANYONE comes out with some real talk, or some straight blunt talk, we almost recoil in terror, and we all become offended for some odd reason.


We dont even know WHY we're offended anymore....we're just offended.


:bowdown: :bowdown:

[XxSMSxX]

He's paid millions of dollars to be a role model,

:oldlol:

[Notorious D.M.C]

Yup he's always been one.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-bldbP6BWw

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Ok so tonight after the game he made these comments..

"It's a game we had to win," Terry said. "They're a bad team. They're not a good team. "It's a good team (Thursday, Lakers)."

I also remember after the Bulls whooped on the Mavs he got pissed off and postgame said "Derrick Rose is the Bulls. Without him they aren't sh**" or w/e. Has he always been a douche? I never remembered him acting like this in previous years with Dallas but what's up with the disrespect towards other teams?

Isn't this what everyone says already albeit in a nicer way?

"Rose carries the Bulls."
"Without him they would be like the Milwaukee Bucks"
"Bogans is trash"

[Clippersfan86]

Bingo. Its almost to the point these days, that we're so far up our own asses, in terms of bullshitting one another, that when ANYONE comes out with some real talk, or some straight blunt talk, we almost recoil in terror, and we all become offended for some odd reason.


We dont even know WHY we're offended anymore....we're just offended.

Joaquin Noah, Kevin Garnett= Real talk

Jason Terry=douchebag,asshole

Terry is personally attacking other teams while Noah at least makes sense with his real talk. Calling Cleveland a boring city etc. Pretty much everything KG talks is being honest and upfront.

[Clippersfan86]

What's up with Thunder fans lately around here BTW? Jesus Christ. Notice you guys all got something to say regarding the Clippers or other struggling teams like you've won something. Thunder fans getting a big head lately. 1 first round exit so far in the Durant era after 3 seasons is nothing to get cocky about :facepalm .

The Nuggets are going to rip you guys in the playoffs most likely too.

Thunderup in 2 seasons when we ARE contending in the west I'm going to make you my bi*ch on these forums and troll you all the time. Seriously in every thread you're ripping another team and boosting yours.

[b0bab0i]

Jason Terry 6 points going 2/11 on shooting:roll:
Same dumbass that said mavs don't need to worry about the lakers and lakers are behind them.

[Harrison_Barnes]

Yes he has, dudes an asshole.

[Darius]

It's a dick thing to say but it's not untrue, sadly.

[50inchvertical]

What's up with Thunder fans lately around here BTW? Jesus Christ. Notice you guys all got something to say regarding the Clippers or other struggling teams like you've won something. Thunder fans getting a big head lately. 1 first round exit so far in the Durant era after 3 seasons is nothing to get cocky about :facepalm .

The Nuggets are going to rip you guys in the playoffs most likely too.

Thunderup in 2 seasons when we ARE contending in the west I'm going to make you my bi*ch on these forums and troll you all the time. Seriously in every thread you're ripping another team and boosting yours.
You're the one crying that somebody called your team a bad team, when they are in fact, a bad team. And in 2 yrs, you will still be that. You have the worst owner in sports.

[Clippersfan86]

You're the one crying that somebody called your team a bad team, when they are in fact, a bad team. And in 2 yrs, you will still be that. You have the worst owner in sports.

It's all good.. time reveals all. In 2 years when the Clippers are a great team I'll be here reminding the haters all the time. I won't let it go to my head and randomly diss teams but everyone that bashed the Clippers is going to see a trolling like no other before :lol . Remember it was just 2 seasons ago that the Thunder won 29 games and 20 the year before that. Clippers are probably going to end up with 31-32 this season. That's with Blake being a rookie and all the major injuries to key guys we have had all year.

I look forward to kicking your ass in the playoffs over the years. Blake Griffin is going to crush the hearts of Oklahoma.. the city he once represented.

[50inchvertical]

It's all good.. time reveals all. In 2 years when the Clippers are a great team I'll be here reminding the haters all the time. I won't let it go to my head and randomly diss teams but everyone that bashed the Clippers is going to see a trolling like no other before :lol . Remember it was just 2 seasons ago that the Thunder won 29 games and 20 the year before that. Clippers are probably going to end up with 31-32 this season. That's with Blake being a rookie and all the major injuries to key guys we have had all year.

I look forward to kicking your ass in the playoffs over the years. Blake Griffin is going to crush the hearts of Oklahoma the city he once represented.
every team has injuries. You sucked with those players healthy too. The Grizzlies are more of a threat now and for the future than the Clippers.

[Clippersfan86]

every team has injuries. You sucked with those players healthy too. The Grizzlies are more of a threat now and for the future than the Clippers.

Yes the Grizzlies are a great darkhorse for sure. I just find it ironic that just 2 seasons ago (if you were even a fan then :confusedshrug: ) the Thunder were in a similar position. Tons of young talent that needed time to gel and build and was working on changing culture (for you guys it was relocating, changing team name, logos and all that) for us it's changing the loser mentality yet instead of relating to any of the similarities you've become a bully mentally. You of all people should be able to understand the Clippers right now. You guys didn't win shit in Durant's first 2 seasons.. and were considered laughingstock only 2 years ago.

Then going into the playoffs last season the Thunder got no respect from anyone and had to earn it by putting up a fight. This current Clippers team is on the same trajectory as the Thunder were in the way of a super young new coach, great cap situation, immense young talent and depth and a budding young superstar.

If anything I'm more disappointed in you and the rest of the Thunder fans that have failed to remain grounded. It only took you one 1st round playoff exit and 1 good regular season to have this cocky, bully mentality with other fans.

Btw... the Clippers were the hottest team in the league going 12-4 at one point until Eric Gordon got injured. 2nd ranked defense after Miami, 1st best rebounding team, 8th in offensive ranking, 1st in points in the paint and 1st in assists and blocked shots over that stretch. Since you said the team never won when healthy. Outside of Portland, New Jersey and a handful of others how many teams won without their top scorer and defender for 25 games.. and their All star from last season for half the season????

Guess how many games total the fully healthy Clippers starting 5 have together this season? 6.

[Clippersfan86]

Rick Carlisle last night...when asked about the Clippers

"This is a playoff level team," he said. "They're a little bit young and battled through injuries. But this is a team that's on the rise and going to be an improving team every year going forward."

So many people have said this and can see it.. apparently you've been hiding under a rock.

[Grim]

he has always made slick comments and shiiit.

a few years ago he said some shiit like "no one cares about fake titles and media gassing players up"

guess who they played that night hahah

[Clippersfan86]

he has always made slick comments and shiiit.

a few years ago he said some shiit like "no one cares about fake titles and media gassing players up"

guess who they played that night hahah

Damn he said that about the Lakers?? What a tool lol.

[Grim]

Jason Terry 6 points going 2/11 on shooting:roll:
Same dumbass that said mavs don't need to worry about the lakers and lakers are behind them.
lakers are ahead

[Grim]

Damn he said that about the Lakers?? What a tool lol.
lmao nah...about LeBron... fake title as in King

-edit- yeah I know me being a Laker fan u might of thought that was who he was tombout

[Clippersfan86]

lmao nah...about LeBron... fake title as in King

-edit- yeah I know me being a Laker fan u might of thought that was who he was tombout

Haha... yea I assumed Lakers fan and all you meant he was saying you guys didn't earn your titles/rings. I get it now though... you meant title as in name. Gotta love how easy it is to misunderstand someone on the internet :mad: .

[MooseJuiceBowen]

coming from a spurs fan we know all about this dirty little trick terry. one of the biggest ***** in the game

[Clippersfan86]

coming from a spurs fan we know all about this dirty little trick terry. one of the biggest ***** in the game

:cheers:

[50inchvertical]

coming from a spurs fan we know all about this dirty little trick terry. one of the biggest ***** in the game
from someone with Bowen in their username; hilarious
[quote]Rick Carlisle last night...when asked about the Clippers

"This is a playoff level team," he said. "They're a little bit young and battled through injuries. But this is a team that's on the rise and going to be an improving team every year going forward."

So many people have said this and can see it.. apparently you've been hiding under a rock.
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He was just being nice. Team is going nowhere. Who wants to play for Sterling?

[zac]

I like how Bill Simmons refers to player like Terry. They are the "irrational confidence" guy on the team. They think they are the best player on the court (realistically they are the about the 3rd or 4th best on the team) and think every shot is going in, which in his argument he said every playoff team needs.

[Clippersfan86]

I like how Bill Simmons refers to player like Terry. They are the "irrational confidence" guy on the team. They think they are the best player on the court (realistically they are the about the 3rd or 4th best on the team) and think every shot is going in, which in his argument he said every playoff team needs.

Definitely understand that. I agree Terry would fit the bill as an irrational confidence guy. It's a shame because for the most part that team has pretty chill, humble guys like Dirk, Kidd, Barea, Chandler etc.

[Clippersfan86]

from someone with Bowen in their username; hilarious
[quote]Rick Carlisle last night...when asked about the Clippers

"This is a playoff level team," he said. "They're a little bit young and battled through injuries. But this is a team that's on the rise and going to be an improving team every year going forward."

So many people have said this and can see it.. apparently you've been hiding under a rock.
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He was just being nice. Team is going nowhere. Who wants to play for Sterling?

Haha. Nice troll attempt.

[Loneshot]

One of my favorite players, that is all.

[zac]

Definitely understand that. I agree Terry would fit the bill as an irrational confidence guy. It's a shame because for the most part that team has pretty chill, humble guys like Dirk, Kidd, Barea, Chandler etc.
See also:
JR Smith, Eddie House (especially in the Celtics days), etc.

[Clippersfan86]

See also:
JR Smith, Eddie House (especially in the Celtics days), etc.

Oooo... good examples. If Terry wasn't on a great team like the Mavs with no nonsense/ great owner, front office and players leading the team he would probably be considered a cancer or chemistry jeopardizing player like Brendan Haywood was. Haywood is one of these guys too. Remember he kept flagrantly fouling Lebron in the playoffs then told the media that Lebron is basically a girl crying "boo hoo"? Disrespectful POS players.

[50inchvertical]

[QUOTE=50inchvertical]from someone with Bowen in their username; hilarious


Haha. Nice troll attempt.
I'm trolling? Seriously, what do you as a Clipper's fan have that you can look at to convince you that your team is on the rise? Past history? Nope? Youth? Perhaps, but the Thunder are even still younger. Teams falling off? Sure Dallas, LA, and SA may be older, but their front offices have a history of 50 win seasons. Draft pick? Nope, gave it to Cleveland. Coach people like to play for? Nope. GM with great relationships around the league? Nope.

Face it, the Clippers will be a no playoff team this yr, next yr, the yr after that, will sneak an 8 seed at some point, then repeat the process.

[tontoz]

When Terry was in Atlanta he walked into a gym where some guys were pickup games. He asked everyone to leave so he could work on his game. Everyone was like :lol

so he left.

[Clippersfan86]

[QUOTE=Clippersfan86]
I'm trolling? Seriously, what do you as a Clipper's fan have that you can look at to convince you that your team is on the rise? Past history? Nope? Youth? Perhaps, but the Thunder are even still younger. Teams falling off? Sure Dallas, LA, and SA may be older, but their front offices have a history of 50 win seasons. Draft pick? Nope, gave it to Cleveland. Coach people like to play for? Nope. GM with great relationships around the league? Nope.

Face it, the Clippers will be a no playoff team this yr, next yr, the yr after that, will sneak an 8 seed at some point, then repeat the process.

I feel bad for your ignorance but I guess it is true ignorance is bliss. If you are indeed not trying to troll would it kill you to do a little bit of research? Clippers are going to have about 15 mill in cap space this offseason and triple that or more the following season. We traded this years draft pick because it was needed to move Baron and the GM and scouts didn't like the talent in this draft which is supposed to be one of the weakest in a decade. It's being called "The draft with no stars".

We have next years 2012 Minnesota lottery pick unprotected in what is projected to be one of the deepest drafts in a long time.

As for overall age that's irrelevant because we aren't keeping any of our older guys :confusedshrug: . What's more important is the age of the core and here you go.

Blake Griffin 22 years old (as of 2 weeks ago)
Eric Gordon 22 years old (Last month)
DeAndre Jordan 22 years old
Eric Bledsoe 21 years old
Al Faroq Aminu 20 years old
Randy Foye 27 years old
Chris Kaman 28 years old
Mo Williams 28 years old

That's just the core group we have and the future going forward unless we trade Kaman for a high caliber SF which may happen this offseason.

Now compare that to your young core...

Russell Westbrook 22 years old
James Harden 21 years old
Eric Maynor 23 years old
Kevin Durant 22 years old
Serge Ibaka 21 years old
Kendrick Perkins 26 years old
Cole Aldrich 22 years old

That's pretty much all of the good potential young talent on both teams or pieces most likely to be retained etc.. it's not a full depth chart.

Based on all this how much better do you honestly think the Thunder young core is??? The Clippers clearly have more potential going forward. Blake Griffin is going to be a better player than Durant and Westbrook for damn sure.. maybe as soon as next season.

Eric Bledsoe>Eric Maynor
Chris Kaman>Kendrick Perkins
Russell Westbrook>Mo Williams
Kevin Durant=Blake Griffin
Eric Gordon>James Harden
Serge Ibaka=DeAndre Jordan

That's just the ones we can match up and compare and the only clear as day advantage you have is Russell Westbrook. Blake is already on Durant's level... and he's a rookie while Durant is a 4th year vet.

[50inchvertical]

Blake plays 1 side of the court and gives you nothing in the clutch. Harden is averaging 20+ per since the trade. Ibaka is giving you almost 4 blocks per since the trade. You are overrating the shit out of your guys right now. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. All your birds are in the bush right now. Bledsoe is terribly inefficient at the pg position meanwhile Maynor has 36 assists to only 3 turnovers in March. You win any matchup you put Cole in. He might be an NBA player someday, but right now, **** him. Outside of Westbrook, we also have all of our guys locked up long term.

You think you guys are going to go from a non playoff team to a HCA in the West team in 1 yr, just by staying healthy and adding 15mil worth of fas?

[zac]

Come on man, Kendrick Perkins is way better than Kaman, same goes for Ibaka being better than Deandre. Don't get me wrong, I like Deandre a lot but Ibaka is way more well rounded and Perkins is arguably one of, if not the best defensive Centers in the league.

[MooseJuiceBowen]

from someone with Bowen in their username; hilarious
[quote]Rick Carlisle last night...when asked about the Clippers

"This is a playoff level team," he said. "They're a little bit young and battled through injuries. But this is a team that's on the rise and going to be an improving team every year going forward."

So many people have said this and can see it.. apparently you've been hiding under a rock.
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He was just being nice. Team is going nowhere. Who wants to play for Sterling?

bowen had class

terry is a classless scrub. 4 rings f@ggot

[Clippersfan86]

Blake plays 1 side of the court and gives you nothing in the clutch. Harden is averaging 20+ per since the trade. Ibaka is giving you almost 4 blocks per since the trade. You are overrating the shit out of your guys right now. A bird in the hand is worth 2 in the bush. All your birds are in the bush right now. Bledsoe is terribly inefficient at the pg position meanwhile Maynor has 36 assists to only 3 turnovers in March. You win any matchup you put Cole in. He might be an NBA player someday, but right now, **** him. Outside of Westbrook, we also have all of our guys locked up long term.

You think you guys are going to go from a non playoff team to a HCA in the West team in 1 yr, just by staying healthy and adding 15mil worth of fas?

Blake is a better defender than Durant that's for damn sure. Maybe not be a great shot blocker but he's a good man to man defender. You honestly want to sit here and say Blake is as one dimensional as Durant? GTFO with that shit.. before people laugh at you.

22.5 ppg, 12 rpg, 3.7 apg> 28 ppg, 7 rpg, 3 apg especially when you consider the fact that one is a rookie and one is a 4th year player. If you don't think Blake has a much higher ceiling than you are the one guilty of overrating the shit out of your players. Blake has a far more complete and expansive game as a rookie. Do you know what Blake Griffin is shooting from the line in the last 30 games? 78 percent. Means in just a couple months he upped his percentage over 30 points. This season he's getting better and better and evolving in ways Durant hasn't in 4 full seasons.

Durant is about as good as he's going to get. Can't make a pure scorer something he's not. 86+ percent of his field goal attempts are jumpers. He's not going to suddenly improve any other facets of his game besides shooting the ball/scoring if that's the case. Blake has shown great flashes of defensive potential. He's taking charges a lot more than Durant and blocking shots recently.. as well as playing the passing lanes.

As for your matchups... no matter what Harden is averaging right now he's nowhere near Eric Gordon's level. Ibaka may be averaging 4 bpg over a recent stretch but DJ has went from bench player who plays 5 minutes a game to a legit defensive anchor this season. Statistically Ibaka is a little better now but going forward they will be equal.

Maynor may be efficient when it comes to passing.. but Bledsoe has him beaten in all around game/stats and Bledsoe is the rookie Maynor isn't. Remember we are talking about the future not right now. I'm responding to you saying in 2 years we still won't be shit.

[Clippersfan86]

Come on man, Kendrick Perkins is way better than Kaman, same goes for Ibaka being better than Deandre. Don't get me wrong, I like Deandre a lot but Ibaka is way more well rounded and Perkins is arguably one of, if not the best defensive Centers in the league.

No way are you going to say Kendrick Perkins is a better all around Center than Kaman. Kaman's the all star player from last year, not Perkins. Perkins is a much better defender but what does he offer on offense?? Kaman gives you his 2 blocks a game AND rebounds the ball and scores. Look at their career numbers guys seriously. Kendrick Perkins is a great defender.. nothing more. Ibaka is currently further ahead than DeAndre and a more mature player... but this whole debate was about 50inch saying the Clippers don't have shit going forward. My comparison was potential mainly... though current game was factored into it for sure.

[Clippersfan86]

Btw early in season you guys said it was a fluke and he always starts slow but Durant has declined noticeably in pretty much every single statistical category since last season. I truly believe this guy has peaked.

[RoseCity07]

I see guys at the bball courts like Jason Terry all the time. The arrogant persona is such a cryout of an insecure person.

[50inchvertical]

Btw early in season you guys said it was a fluke and he always starts slow but Durant has declined noticeably in pretty much every single statistical category since last season. I truly believe this guy has peaked.
Durant is leading the league in scoring so I guess the league is declining too. And he's shooting right on par with his career #s this season, 46/36/88.

Again, your whole argument is based on whatifs and couldbes. Our players are just as young with just as much potential AND are already good and a playoff team.

And cap space is overrated (not to mention we have just as much anyways). New Jersey had all that cap space this offseason, thought they were going to get 2 and a MLE guy or even 3 max type fas and they got what? Farmar and Outlaw.

[Al Thornton]

i'm really scared for this kid. his whole life revolves around this team. he makes threads over a player saying the clippers are a bad team. which they clearly are. when they win 30 games again next year i fear he'll kill himself.

[OKCThunderUP]

Blake is a better defender than Durant that's for damn sure.

Stopped reading here and laughed really ****ing hard.

[Clippersfan86]

i'm really scared for this kid. his whole life revolves around this team. he makes threads over a player saying the clippers are a bad team. which they clearly are. when they win 30 games again next year i fear he'll kill himself.

If they win only 30 games next year.. I'll kill myself on video and post it here :cheers: . 50inch let's just agree to disagree. Let's pick this talk back up next season because you have your beliefs and I have mine. We will find out soon enough. No point in talking circles.

[Clippersfan86]

Stopped reading here and laughed really ****ing hard.

You became a Thunder fan last season... which is why I'm laughing really hard right now :lol .

[OKCThunderUP]

You became a Thunder fan last season... which is why I'm laughing really hard right now :lol .

Now I'm laughing even harder for two reasons:

1) You actually believe I've only followed this team since last season despite being from OKC.

2) You are apparently forgetting who owns your team and the direction he's taken it under his tenure.

[50inchvertical]

If they win only 30 games next year.. I'll kill myself on video and post it here :cheers: . 50inch let's just agree to disagree. Let's pick this talk back up next season because you have your beliefs and I have mine. We will find out soon enough. No point in talking circles.
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[Clippersfan86]

Now I'm laughing even harder for two reasons:

1) You actually believe I've only followed this team since last season despite being from OKC.

2) You are apparently forgetting who owns your team and the direction he's taken it under his tenure.

Ok I started as a Sonics fan. Do you wanna test me? I can tell you right now you're a newer fan and I'm calling your bluff. I'm aware of the shitty owner we have. I also know the Bulls had one of the worst owners of all time and won 6 championships with the dynasty. The front office/ownership can only affect things so much. You honestly think Donald Sterling gives a shit? He gives free reign to the coaches and GM. Meaning his ownership has absolutely 0 to do with things going forward. He's approved every extension/trade and anything else the front office have done since I've been a fan (12 years).

So the whole "Sterling owns your team so you'll never succeed" or... "You guys never resign talent" comments are COMPLETELY made up by uneducated fans. Sure a team with a top notch owner is going to be a more consistent contender and an all around better team... but it doesn't mean you can stop great players from leading a team to a championship.. let alone to the playoffs.

Blake Griffin has multiple records and is in a very very small group of rookies in terms of stats/efficiency. Historically not a single rookie of his caliber has failed to bring success to their team. Starting with Elgin Baylor... Elvin Hayes all the way to Shaq, Duncan and David Robinson. ALL of them lead their team to the playoffs within 2 seasons and most of them lead their team to rings. Why should I believe Blake will be any different?

[OKCThunderUP]

Ok I started as a Sonics fan. Do you wanna test me? I can tell you right now you're a newer fan and I'm calling your bluff. I'm aware of the shitty owner we have. I also know the Bulls had one of the worst owners of all time and won 6 championships with the dynasty. The front office/ownership can only affect things so much. You honestly think Donald Sterling gives a shit? He gives free reign to the coaches and GM. Meaning his ownership has absolutely 0 to do with things going forward. He's approved every extension/trade and anything else the front office have done since I've been a fan (12 years).

What the hell do I care about Seattle history? I'm not from Seattle, I've never been to Seattle. I realize OKC and Seattle "share" their history but I was not a fan of the team prior to it moving to OKC. I had no reason to be. You're calling my bluff that I've been following a team for a mere 3 years? I really don't even know where you're going with this to be honest.

Ownership has let the coaches/front office do what they want and look where it's gotten the team. You've been forever irrelevant. The owner may not be making personnel decisions but who do you think hires the coaches/front office that do?


So the whole "Sterling owns your team so you'll never succeed" or... "You guys never resign talent" comments are COMPLETELY made up by uneducated fans. Sure a team with a top notch owner is going to be a more consistent contender and an all around better team... but it doesn't mean you can stop great players from leading a team to a championship.. let alone to the playoffs.

The last 12 years you've been a fan suggest otherwise. The team has made the playoffs once and is averaging a dismal 29 wins per season.


Blake Griffin has multiple records and is in a very very small group of rookies in terms of stats/efficiency. Historically not a single rookie of his caliber has failed to bring success to their team. Starting with Elgin Baylor... Elvin Hayes all the way to Shaq, Duncan and David Robinson. ALL of them lead their team to the playoffs within 2 seasons and most of them lead their team to rings. Why should I believe Blake will be any different?

Shaq, Duncan, and Robinson all played for GMs who have perennial 50-win seasons, multiple rings, and surrounded their superstars with a legit supporting cast. Meanwhile the Clippers have qualified for the postseason 7 times in 40 years. Despite all this you want to argue that the Clippers front office is more capable of building a better team than OKC, who is equally as young and is already a title contender? They have a better owner, a better GM, a better head coach, one of the top 3-5 players in the NBA and a great supporting cast surrounding him. Time to stop looking through rose-colored glasses, guy.

[Clippersfan86]

What the hell do I care about Seattle history? I'm not from Seattle, I've never been to Seattle. I realize OKC and Seattle "share" their history but I was not a fan of the team prior to it moving to OKC. I had no reason to be. You're calling my bluff that I've been following a team for a mere 3 years? I really don't even know where you're going with this to be honest.

Ownership has let the coaches/front office do what they want and look where it's gotten the team. You've been forever irrelevant. The owner may not be making personnel decisions but who do you think hires the coaches/front office that do?



The last 12 years you've been a fan suggest otherwise. The team has made the playoffs once and is averaging a dismal 29 wins per season.



Shaq, Duncan, and Robinson all played for GMs who have perennial 50-win seasons, multiple rings, and surrounded their superstars with a legit supporting cast. Meanwhile the Clippers have qualified for the postseason 7 times in 40 years. Despite all this you want to argue that the Clippers front office is more capable of building a better team than OKC, who is equally as young and is already a title contender? They have a better owner, a better GM, a better head coach, one of the top 3-5 players in the NBA and a great supporting cast surrounding him. Time to stop looking through rose-colored glasses, guy.

Not true. More than half of those guys came to bad franchises dude. You can't get a top 3 pick unless your franchise is struggling and usually has been for a while unless it was gotten in a trade obviously. I never said that the Clippers will build a better team but that the talent we already have is deeper and more potential filled. Outside of Durant and Westbrook.. I don't see anyone else EVER reaching anything close to all star potential. Harden is a high quality starter/6th man... and Ibaka the same MAYBE a DPOY worthy player in the future.

Check any scouting report and it will tell you DeAndre Jordan, Aminu and Bledsoe have gobs of potential.. and that doesn't even include Blake and Eric. So I'm not saying your franchise isn't run much better.. I'm saying the talent alone the Clippers have will offset a lot of that. Hell I personally think we have more depth than the Thunder by far but it doesn't mean will will for sure be the better team. I'm not declaring we will have more 50 win seasons etc than the Thunder.. just that we WILL be successful in the near future.

I'm not sure what the Clippers terrible history has to do with this team going forward :confusedshrug: . You don't have to remind me how shitty the team was historically and I'd never deny it. I'm the first one to say we have the worst history of any franchise in ANY sport. I also think we have one of the brightest futures. Blake Griffin is going to amaze you guys.. you aren't going to know what hit you. You think he's good now.. wait till next season. Him showing up to the practice facility in Playa Del Ray at 7 am.. when practice starts at 10 every day is going to pay off in a big way.

[OKCThunderUP]

Remember it was just 2 seasons ago that the Thunder won 29 games and 20 the year before that.

I like how you suggested I should test you in your knowledge of this franchise when you're telling me OKC had a 20-win season. No such season exists because the team was still in Seattle that year. :facepalm

[OKCThunderUP]

Not true. More than half of those guys came to bad franchises dude. You can't get a top 3 pick unless your franchise is struggling and usually has been for a while unless it was gotten in a trade obviously. I never said that the Clippers will build a better team but that the talent we already have is deeper and more potential filled. Outside of Durant and Westbrook.. I don't see anyone else EVER reaching anything close to all star potential. Harden is a high quality starter/6th man... and Ibaka the same MAYBE a DPOY worthy player in the future.

Check any scouting report and it will tell you DeAndre Jordan, Aminu and Bledsoe have gobs of potential.. and that doesn't even include Blake and Eric. So I'm not saying your franchise isn't run much better.. I'm saying the talent alone the Clippers have will offset a lot of that. Hell I personally think we have more depth than the Thunder by far but it doesn't mean will will for sure be the better team. I'm not declaring we will have more 50 win seasons etc than the Thunder.. just that we WILL be successful in the near future.

I'm not sure what the Clippers terrible history has to do with this team going forward :confusedshrug: . You don't have to remind me how shitty the team was historically and I'd never deny it. I'm the first one to say we have the worst history of any franchise in ANY sport. I also think we have one of the brightest futures. Blake Griffin is going to amaze you guys.. you aren't going to know what hit you. You think he's good now.. wait till next season. Him showing up to the practice facility in Playa Del Ray at 7 am.. when practice starts at 10 every day is going to pay off in a big way.

I'm not discounting your talent or players when I say LAC doesn't have a bright future. I know the team has some potential. All I'm suggesting is that history says things typically happen differently in LA. Your front office since the franchise was established has shown an inability to make the right moves to make this team a contender and just because you finally got a couple of pieces here and there doesn't mean they've suddenly turned it all around. When I see it, I'll believe it. Until then LAC has never given me any reason to believe they can turn the team into a perennial contender.

[Sampsonsimpson]

The guy makes airplane wings after every 3 he makes what do you think?

[Clippersfan86]

It's not the type of guy I am to clown on someone but I'll just share this info with you.

Shaq... was drafted in 92 only 3 years after the franchise was created as the 1st pick. Not only was the franchise a new expansion team but obviously they were terrible considering they had all top 5 picks those years including the 1st pick to draft Shaq. Orlando barely missed the playoffs to the Pacers and that was with the most physically dominant rookie in league history leading them.

Elvin Hayes went to a the San Diego Rockets (later became Houston) after they had their first ever season and only won 15 games before drafting him with the 1st overall pick. Elvin did manage to lead the team to the playoffs in this much weaker era but was killed by the Hawks in the playoffs 4-2.

The Spurs were one of the ABA franchises so I'll only discuss the years leading up to Robinson. The team had 9 good years with George "Iceman" Gervin leading the way... then had 4 straight years where they had a total record of 115-213 leading up to the draft for Robinson. The franchise was so bad San Antonio was basically trying to give the team away to any city who wanted them. David Robinson drafted in 89 was the only rookie of all time to do this.. immediately turned the team from bad to instant contenders winning 56 games in his rookie season while averaging 24.3 and 12. So he turned this team around though much much quicker than other elite rookies.

Duncan definitely was a player on this list who DID come to an established top notch team. I don't even need to break it down because the Spurs were a really strong team besides the season they had tons of injuries and tanked for Duncan.


Michael Jordan... From 66 when the Bulls got their star to 84 they had TERRIBLE luck. Tons of talent that didn't pan out and they traded away... Not once making it to the finals and only winning a single division title. Jordan was drafted and they immediately made the playoffs but only with a 38 win season.. A solid turnaround but not a true playoff team.

Let's do a recent rookie. Lebron James. The Cavs had a good 10 year stretch from 83.. 84 ish to the mid 90's with Mark Price.. Craig Ehlo and those guys. After that though they suffered for 10 miserable years before landing Lebron James. Yet another team that wasn't well established before these rookies arrived. Lebron won 35 games his first season and missed the playoffs. Lebron didn't lead the Cavs to the playoffs until his 3rd season.


So the whole point of me breaking this down proves 2 things.

A. None of these rookies came to established or good franchises and the only one that did in Duncan.. was involved in a HIGHLY controversial tanking situation where a team went from contenders to 17 or 20 wins (I forget) for a single season to get him. One of the most controversial franchise moves in NBA history. This shows the Clippers aren't the only bad team getting an elite rookie 1st round pick

B. Even when they did come... The only players who brought instant, dominant and undisputed improvement was David Robinson. Elvin Hayes played in the late 60's.. so making the playoffs wasn't shit. So this is normal that Blake couldn't singlehandedly carry a bad franchise his first year.

[Replay32]

The guy makes airplane wings after every 3 he makes what do you think?

Terry's nickname is "The Jet". Anyway Terry has always been this way. I don't have a problem with it, but I'm biased since he went to Arizona.

[b0bab0i]

Jason Terry just showed how much of an asshole he was again.

Shoved Steve Blake after he fouled him.

[Clippersfan86]

Haha... Terry got ejected for what exactly? Being a dick! Shoves Steve Blake to the floor randomly after a whistle. God it feels good to watch this asshole have a meltdown. He's like 12-50 shooting or w/e in his last 10 games. Wonder what he has to say now to disrespect other teams?

Probably something like "We aren't worried about the Lakers. They won't last a 7 game series with us". :lol :roll:

[kentatm]

Haha... Terry got ejected for what exactly? Being a dick! Shoves Steve Blake to the floor randomly after a whistle. God it feels good to watch this asshole have a meltdown. He's like 12-50 shooting or w/e in his last 10 games. Wonder what he has to say now to disrespect other teams?

Probably something like "We aren't worried about the Lakers. They won't last a 7 game series with us". :lol :roll:


you are making it really easy to not have any sympathy for your shit ass team brah.

[b0bab0i]

Flagrant 2 on Terry

[50inchvertical]

Dude thinks his team is going to be in the playoffs next yr and atop the West in the next 2 yrs.

And that was a whole bunch of nothing, Steve Blake put a whole lot extra on that fall anyways. Ol' fugazi ass dudes.

[b0bab0i]

Dude thinks his team is going to be in the playoffs next yr and atop the West in the next 2 yrs.

And that was a whole bunch of nothing, Steve Blake put a whole lot extra on that fall anyways. Ol' fugazi ass dudes.
Intentional shove by Terry after the whistle was called.

[Clippersfan86]

you are making it really easy to not have any sympathy for your shit ass team brah.

Who said I want sympathy for the Clippers. Just give credit when it's due that the team is decent, not terrible or good right now but has a bright future. It's pretty much fact brah.

[Clippersfan86]

Dude thinks his team is going to be in the playoffs next yr and atop the West in the next 2 yrs.

And that was a whole bunch of nothing, Steve Blake put a whole lot extra on that fall anyways. Ol' fugazi ass dudes.

Way to twist what I said. Playoffs next year... high caliber team in West in 2 years. Never said the Clippers would be the top seed LMAO... That's 5 years away :oldlol: .

[Zedja]

I love Barnes even more now.

[Clippersfan86]

I love Barnes even more now.

I like him besides when he's flagrantly fouling Blake Griffin lol. I liked him a lot when he was a Clipper and was bummed we let him walk.

[kentatm]

Who said I want sympathy for the Clippers. Just give credit when it's due that the team is decent, not terrible or good right now but has a bright future. It's pretty much fact brah.


no it is not.

your team is BAD.

stop crying about it.

They are a bad team right now.

deal with it ya big baby.

[The Iron Fist]

It's not the type of guy I am to clown on someone but I'll just share this info with you.

Shaq... was drafted in 92 only 3 years after the franchise was created as the 1st pick. Not only was the franchise a new expansion team but obviously they were terrible considering they had all top 5 picks those years including the 1st pick to draft Shaq. Orlando barely missed the playoffs to the Pacers and that was with the most physically dominant rookie in league history leading them.

Elvin Hayes went to a the San Diego Rockets (later became Houston) after they had their first ever season and only won 15 games before drafting him with the 1st overall pick. Elvin did manage to lead the team to the playoffs in this much weaker era but was killed by the Hawks in the playoffs 4-2.

The Spurs were one of the ABA franchises so I'll only discuss the years leading up to Robinson. The team had 9 good years with George "Iceman" Gervin leading the way... then had 4 straight years where they had a total record of 115-213 leading up to the draft for Robinson. The franchise was so bad San Antonio was basically trying to give the team away to any city who wanted them. David Robinson drafted in 89 was the only rookie of all time to do this.. immediately turned the team from bad to instant contenders winning 56 games in his rookie season while averaging 24.3 and 12. So he turned this team around though much much quicker than other elite rookies.

Duncan definitely was a player on this list who DID come to an established top notch team. I don't even need to break it down because the Spurs were a really strong team besides the season they had tons of injuries and tanked for Duncan.


Michael Jordan... From 66 when the Bulls got their star to 84 they had TERRIBLE luck. Tons of talent that didn't pan out and they traded away... Not once making it to the finals and only winning a single division title. Jordan was drafted and they immediately made the playoffs but only with a 38 win season.. A solid turnaround but not a true playoff team.

Let's do a recent rookie. Lebron James. The Cavs had a good 10 year stretch from 83.. 84 ish to the mid 90's with Mark Price.. Craig Ehlo and those guys. After that though they suffered for 10 miserable years before landing Lebron James. Yet another team that wasn't well established before these rookies arrived. Lebron won 35 games his first season and missed the playoffs. Lebron didn't lead the Cavs to the playoffs until his 3rd season.


So the whole point of me breaking this down proves 2 things.

A. None of these rookies came to established or good franchises and the only one that did in Duncan.. was involved in a HIGHLY controversial tanking situation where a team went from contenders to 17 or 20 wins (I forget) for a single season to get him. One of the most controversial franchise moves in NBA history. This shows the Clippers aren't the only bad team getting an elite rookie 1st round pick

B. Even when they did come... The only players who brought instant, dominant and undisputed improvement was David Robinson. Elvin Hayes played in the late 60's.. so making the playoffs wasn't shit. So this is normal that Blake couldn't singlehandedly carry a bad franchise his first year.
:wtf:


Check this out.


1968-69 Milwaukee Bucks 27 55 .329

1969-70 Milwaukee Bucks* 56 26 .683 Lost Eastern Division Finals

1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks* 66 16 .805 Won Finals

Guess what player was relied on to do this?

[Clippersfan86]

:wtf:


Check this out.


1968-69 Milwaukee Bucks 27 55 .329

1969-70 Milwaukee Bucks* 56 26 .683 Lost Eastern Division Finals

1970-71 Milwaukee Bucks* 66 16 .805 Won Finals

Guess what player was relied on to do this?

Why the hell would I count Kareem :facepalm . Nobody gives a shit about the late 60's and early 70's when nobody good was in the league. You know Blake Griffin is one of 3 rookies along with Kareem to average these numbers? He's doing it in a MUCH MUCH more competitive era too. I'm not about to break down every single dominant rookie :lol . Just the main group of current ones. I gave 2 sentences for Hayes because he has the double double streak for rookies with an incredible 69 straight or w/e in his rookie season and Blake set the record for most consecutive double doubles by a rookie since Elvin Hayes.

Kareem's ring came after Milwaukee got Oscar Robertson. Talk about star power. They were the only team back then with 2 elite top 5 players on the same team.

[bl2k8]

lol@ terry being the most important player to be ejected

[The Iron Fist]

Why the hell would I count Kareem :facepalm . Nobody gives a shit about the late 60's and early 70's when nobody good was in the league. You know Blake Griffin is one of 3 rookies along with Kareem to average these numbers? He's doing it in a MUCH MUCH more competitive era too. I'm not about to break down every single dominant rookie :lol . Just the main group of current ones. I gave 2 sentences for Hayes because he has the double double streak for rookies with an incredible 69 straight or w/e in his rookie season and Blake set the record for most consecutive double doubles by a rookie since Elvin Hayes.

Kareem's ring came after Milwaukee got Oscar Robertson. Talk about star power. They were the only team back then with 2 elite top 5 players on the same team.
Kareem played against 37 of the NBAs 50 best all time players.

Kareem played against teams in the finals that had at least 3 HOFers.


Don't even try that shit on me boy. I'll whoop that a ss with the history book.

[Clippersfan86]

Kareem played against 37 of the NBAs 50 best all time players.

Kareem played against teams in the finals that had at least 3 HOFers.


Don't even try that shit on me boy. I'll whoop that a ss with the history book.

Kareem also played what 21 years jackass??? Of course he got to play with amazing HOF's especially in the later part of his career. Let's talk about from his rookie season to the next year he won the title WITH Oscar Robertson a top 5 player of all time on his team. How many elite players that were anywhere near the caliber of the players of the 80's and 90's that he faced? The late 60's through the mid 70's was an incredibly weak era in basketball.

Since you want to whoop my ass let me throw the first punch.

Kareem had absolutely 0 competition as a youngster including when he won the ring. Guess what happened to Bill Russell? He had just retired. Guess how old Wilt was? 33 years old and on the decline.

If the league was so incredible at that time.. how the hell were the Lakers able to get Kareem for Elmore Smith and Brian Winters??? Seriously do you want to go there? It's why nobody walks around saying Kareem or Wilt or Russell were the greatest players of all time. Jordan played in the toughest decades in the history of basketball. The 80's and 90's. Not to mention a little bit in the early 00's.

[Grim]

Oooo... good examples. If Terry wasn't on a great team like the Mavs with no nonsense/ great owner, front office and players leading the team he would probably be considered a cancer or chemistry jeopardizing player like Brendan Haywood was. Haywood is one of these guys too. Remember he kept flagrantly fouling Lebron in the playoffs then told the media that Lebron is basically a girl crying "boo hoo"? Disrespectful POS players.
HAAAAAAAAAAAA i remember that shit :facepalm :roll:

[gorbo]

lmao wow, this thread was on point

[Grim]

how did this go from Terry to arguing about a team who is getting ready for a future run??


Is this real life?

[LA_Showtime]

I like that he's speaking up. Someone should. It brings more excitement to the NBA. Look at tonight. How fun was that game? Don't be surprised if Stern ruins it by suspending half of the players, though. :oldlol:

[Clippersfan86]

how did this go from Terry to arguing about a team who is getting ready for a future run??


Is this real life?

Clipper bashing started...

[DixieNourmous]

This ejection may have hurt his "6th man" chances at the award.

[gorbo]

not to mention lamar odom raining threes up their bumholes in the same game

[DixieNourmous]

not to mention lamar odom raining threes up their bumholes in the same game

:lol tru dat

[All Net]

"I don't think Kobe [Bryant] wants to chase me or Roddy Beaubois around that court all night," Terry said in an interview with an ESPN radio station in Dallas. "They're a little older in the backcourt. In five- or six-minute spurts we can cause some havoc out there. It's definitely an advantage for us."

The moron is at it again..

[Clippersfan86]

The moron is at it again..

Wait did he really say that?? This thread may reach like 100 pages eventually lol..

[All Net]

Wait did he really say that?? After this game?

Before the game

funny thing is he talks about Kobe like Terry is young, they are basically the same freaking age or close to it.

[Clippersfan86]

Before the game

funny thing is he talks about Kobe like Terry is young, they are basically the same freaking age or close to it.

Terry is older last I checked..... lol. He's a **** up.

[brantonli]

Before the game

funny thing is he talks about Kobe like Terry is young, they are basically the same freaking age or close to it.

Jason Terry is 11 months older than Kobe Bryant.

[thejumpa]

Jason Terry is 11 months older than Kobe Bryant.

He's older but still quicker. I think he knows that he's older but he's still right. Chasing Beabuix(sp?) or he around will wear anyone down. I have no doubt in my mind that Kobe would take on the challenge though. If Kobe got to him in time it would make shit tough. 6'6 vs 6'2...