Wade feels he has been underappreciated throughout his whole career.

[jrong]

http://sportsradiointerviews.com/2011/03/31/dwyane-wade-under-appreciated-boston-celtics-nba/


Is Dwyane Wade a legitimate MVP candidate in your mind?

“Let me say this, I think a lot of people always from my whole career for the rest of my career is always going to overlook and underlook what I do as a basketball player. I think every year I have the numbers. I have the game to prove it. It’s just you know what I’m not the guy who they look at and say he should be MVP for whatever reason and you know what personally it doesn’t drive me to be MVP of this league. It drives me to when I get done playing this game for people to say ‘You know what we missed that guy because of what he did in this league.’ I don’t know if anybody else is going to be able to…I try to do things that 6’4′, that guys haven’t done before me and they’re going to have a hard time doing after me. I’m going to continue to try to do that and I go a lot of years to add to that, so one day I’ll be appreciated in this league.”

Good to see he agrees with fans....

He talks about not being recognized for what he does at 6'4", and he's got a point. I don't know if there's ever been a player at 6'4" who does the things Wade does, plays the way he does.

All the players who have at one time or another been considered a "descendant of MJ"-- Penny, Kobe, Hill, Carter, McGrady, LeBron-- are all between 6'6" - 6'8", in other words at least as tall as Jordan. Except one, that is. Wade is the only one who can lay claim to that mantle who is shorter than Mike-- a full 2 inches shorter..

[Rnbizzle]

He's right.

[Kellogs4toniee]

Yes he is a legitimate MVP candidate. He always has been, especially that career year he had a few years ago when Lebron won it because his team had a much better record. However, I honestly don't think he is under-appreciated at all. For the last five years he's always generally been considered a top five player in the league. For the last two - three years he's up there as a top three or top two. As a die hard Chicago Bulls and Rose fan, I think Wade is better than Rose. He gets his dues, especially since he already has a championship.

I've always seen him as a mini-Jordan.

[PurpleChuck]

Robbed in 06, 07, 08 and 09 of the MVP. Past 5 years in fact.:banghead: :banghead:

[DJmicah]

I think Wade's Game is more like Jordan than Kobe's...

[HEAT111]

He's right.

Isn't Steve Nash like 6'2? O.o

Yeah, Dwayne Wade deserves the MVP. I still can't believe the fans are the ones that vote.

[blablabla]

so what iverson was 6'0' is arguably better than wade and he won one mvp award he should stop crying

[drizzy0503]

I think Wade's Game is more like Jordan than Kobe's...

True. Too true

[lakerspng]

He's never been robbed of MVP.

He's always been a great player, just never the greatest (from the media's perspective which changes constantly) that season.

Just because you come in second place in every race, doesn't make you a bad runner, it just means you came up just a tiny bit short every time, which for whatever reason, has been Wade's situation.

He's just never had the right season in the right season. Had he performed this season, as he did last season and Lebron was not on his team, he'd have a legitimate shot at it this year, but because of the circumstances it won't happen. Is that fair? No. But it is what it is.

[Ikill]

I don't consider Wade that small he's about 6'5 in shoes has really long arms big hands and a gigantic build

[ihatetimthomas]

I heard that interview in espn and I can agree. He has always flied a bit under the radar because he was drafted when Lebron was and Lebron has always been overshadowing him. Wade is a very unique player and more polished than Lebron. Even with his title and finals MVP, he is always a bit under the radar.

[Sarcastic]

I think he gets slightly overrated due to being able to ride Shaq to a title early in his career. He is definitely a top 5 player though.

[jrong]

so what iverson was 6'0' is arguably better than wade and he won one mvp award he should stop crying

Wade has been better than Iverson EVER was since 04-05. Or are you another one who doesn't grasp the importance of efficiency?



I think he gets slightly overrated due to being able to ride Shaq to a title early in his career. He is definitely a top 5 player though.

LOFL!

[DJmicah]

Robbed in 06, 07, 08 and 09 of the MVP. Past 5 years in fact.:banghead: :banghead:
Hasn't Lebron Deserved it since he became The best player in the league which was arguably around 08, if he's the best in the NBA that means he should be the "Most Valuable Player"
The Only One With An Argument Against him is Dwight

[Kellogs4toniee]

Robbed in 06, 07, 08 and 09 of the MVP. Past 5 years in fact.:banghead: :banghead:


You mean when Miami went 15-67 in 2007/2008, Wade deserved MVP that year too? :roll: :roll:

Your always good for a laugh.

[Andrei89]

I think he gets slightly overrated due to being able to ride Shaq to a title early in his career. He is definitely a top 5 player though.

Shaq rode him LOL!

idiots and ISH = priceless

[Stuckey]

he just doesnt get that much media attention, his team stunk since he got the ring

i remember the bulls beating the heat first game in 06/07 by 40 points or something on opening night at home

[LBJFTW]

so what iverson was 6'0' is arguably better than wade and he won one mvp award he should stop crying

Agreed. Wade is in no position to complain when Iverson who even smaller, won the MVP. Next time Wade says: "But I'm 6'4!" The reply should be "Really? I didn't know they stacked shit that high!"

Guy needs to start focusing on winning and being THANKFUL that he has Lebron by his side instead of complaining like a snotty nosed kid.

[Ikill]

Yes he is a legitimate MVP candidate. He always has been, especially that career year he had a few years ago when Lebron won it because his team had a much better record. However, I honestly don't think he is under-appreciated at all. For the last five years he's always generally been considered a top five player in the league. For the last two - three years he's up there as a top three or top two. As a die hard Chicago Bulls and Rose fan, I think Wade is better than Rose. He gets his dues, especially since he already has a championship.

I've always seen him as a mini-Jordan.
i wouldn't say he is a mini Jordan since he is only about an inch shorter and he probably has longer arms. When Wades at his best he's close to Jordan he's just not consistent enough.

[Ikill]

I heard that interview in espn and I can agree. He has always flied a bit under the radar because he was drafted when Lebron was and Lebron has always been overshadowing him. Wade is a very unique player and more polished than Lebron. Even with his title and finals MVP, he is always a bit under the radar.
only if he played his freshman year he would been drafted number two in the 02 draft by the Bulls.

[fos]

I don't really care that he's 6'4" because the guy has like over a 7' wingspan. People downplay how important wingspan is. Give me a 7' wingspan and I'd be dunking on everyone, too.

He is an awesome player though.

[Sarcastic]

Shaq rode him LOL!

idiots and ISH = priceless

That's why he (Shaq) was second in MVP the year before. Obviously they moved the offense more towards Wade the championship year, but having Shaq occupy so much space down low completely freed up Wade to move so effectively and get a bajillion calls from the refs.

Either Lebron or Melo could have won a title with Shaq at that time.

[Ikill]

I think he gets slightly overrated due to being able to ride Shaq to a title early in his career. He is definitely a top 5 player though.
:lol

[Sarcastic]

BTW, Wade hasn't won a playoff series since Shaq left.

[Papaya Petee]

2005-2006 he should of won MVP. IMO.

[Ikill]

BTW, Wade hasn't won a playoff series since Shaq left.
cause hes had the worst supporting cast in the NBA those te.ms wouldn't even win 20 games without Wade .

[jrong]

Guy needs to start focusing on winning and being THANKFUL that he has Lebron by his side instead of complaining like a snotty nosed kid.

Wade led a team to a title without LeBron. LeBron will never lead a team to a title without Wade unless it's when he's much older.

You think LeBron went to Miami for South Beach and sun? You think there's any other player whose team and city LeBron would have went to and consented to share it?

LeBron went to Miami for one main reason: #3.

[Ikill]

That's why he (Shaq) was second in MVP the year before. Obviously they moved the offense more towards Wade the championship year, but having Shaq occupy so much space down low completely freed up Wade to move so effectively and get a bajillion calls from the refs.

Either Lebron or Melo could have won a title with Shaq at that time.
Wade was better than Shaq in 05 Shaq just had more hype

[Sarcastic]

cause hes had the worst supporting cast in the NBA those te.ms wouldn't even win 20 games without Wade .

He got swept by the Bulls the following year. That's acceptable if we are talking about the Derrick Rose Bulls, but we're not. This was the Ben Gordon Bulls.

[Christofire]

Yes he is a legitimate MVP candidate. He always has been, especially that career year he had a few years ago when Lebron won it because his team had a much better record. However, I honestly don't think he is under-appreciated at all. For the last five years he's always generally been considered a top five player in the league. For the last two - three years he's up there as a top three or top two. As a die hard Chicago Bulls and Rose fan, I think Wade is better than Rose. He gets his dues, especially since he already has a championship.

I've always seen him as a mini-Jordan.

Gotta agree.....Mark jackson said it best.....wade is already the 3rd greatest SG of all timebehind bryant and Jordan with atleast 5 more years left to add to his legacy.

Wade was most definately robbed in 09....

[Ikill]

He got swept by the Bulls the following year. That's acceptable if we are talking about the Derrick Rose Bulls, but we're not. This was the Ben Gordon Bulls.
Wade was injured he wasn't even supposed to come back for that playoffs

[Crystallas]

Maybe if Wade stopped using HGH...

[Ikill]

Wades too good to not get an MVP so he will get one somehow

[Sarcastic]

Gotta agree.....Mark jackson said it best.....wade is already the 3rd greatest SG of all timebehind bryant and Jordan with atleast 5 more years left to add to his legacy.

Wade was most definately robbed in 09....

This guy still has a case for 3rd best SG.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/geekplate/nba-logo.png

[Dave3]

2005-2006 he should of won MVP. IMO.
He wasn't even a top candidate that year, and had the runner up to MVP from the previous year on his team. It made no sense for him to win it that year. It's not like the voters watch the playoffs before voting...

[Christofire]

I don't really care that he's 6'4" because the guy has like over a 7' wingspan. People downplay how important wingspan is. Give me a 7' wingspan and I'd be dunking on everyone, too.

He is an awesome player though.

So what jordan had hands the size of the grand canyon...should we dismiss any togh shot he made because of this?

[Christofire]

He wasn't even a top candidate that year, and had the runner up to MVP from the previous year on his team. It made no sense for him to win it that year. It's not like the voters watch the playoffs before voting...

But yet we have people on here crying for james to be MVP

[jrong]

That's why he (Shaq) was second in MVP the year before. Obviously they moved the offense more towards Wade the championship year, but having Shaq occupy so much space down low completely freed up Wade to move so effectively and get a bajillion calls from the refs.

Either Lebron or Melo could have won a title with Shaq at that time.

Not a chance in hell. Except for one season, Melo is anti-clutch in the playoffs. And LeBron had no jumpshot in 06, which if you watch the games was how Wade really won that title.

And Shaq was MVP runner-up because the voters didn't recognize that Wade was a 50-50 partner in 04-05. Well, he was until Shaq hurt himself in March; then Wade took over the team and carried them to Game 7 of the ECFs and would have taken them to the Finals and possibly collected his first FMVP a year earlier had he not been injured himself in Game 5.

You sound so ignorant when you call him overrated because you obviously don't know much about Wade's history and career. His first three years in the league, he got off to a legendary start. As great as he is, it's almost scary to think what might have been had he not gotten hurt in the 05 ECFs or the 07 regular season...

[Christofire]

This guy still has a case for 3rd best SG.

http://i999.photobucket.com/albums/af119/geekplate/nba-logo.png


Okay if you say so

[Dave3]

But yet we have people on here crying for james to be MVP
And those people are wrong lol...

[wally_world]

Robbed in 06, 07, 08 and 09 of the MVP. Past 5 years in fact.:banghead: :banghead:

Pretty sure he deserves it in 03, 04 and 05 too. Arguably 02 too.

[Ikill]

Not a chance in hell. Except for one season, Melo is anti-clutch in the playoffs. And LeBron had no jumpshot in 06, which if you watch the games was how Wade really won that title.

And Shaq was MVP runner-up because the voters didn't recognize that Wade was a 50-50 partner in 04-05. Well, he was until Shaq hurt himself in March; then Wade took over the team and carried them to Game 7 of the ECFs and would have taken them to the Finals and possibly collected his first FMVP a year earlier had he not been injured himself in Game 5.

You sound so ignorant when you call him overrated because you obviously don't know much about Wade's history and career. His first three years in the league, he got off to a legendary start. As great as he is, it's almost scary to think what might have been had he not gotten hurt in the 05 ECFs or the 07 regular season...
3 tittles and MVP by now and 3 straight 30 point season from 06-08

[donald_trump]

one thing that has always bugged me was wade not winning mvp in 05-06. sure there was nash, but he really didn't deserve back to back mvps especiall with wade averaging 27/5/7 on 50% shooting on a 52 win team.
considering they gave it to nash on a 54 win team, was it really justified when wade was putting up better stats, was in fact a better player and his team had only won two less games?

i think nash did deserve the mvp, though wade deserved it too. and the sad thing is, i dont think the voters would have changed it either even if say they did win 59 games like the season before.

its quite an odd feeling knowing a player as great as he is will never most likely have an mvp... its not even like ewing for example, because wade is a caliber above. he will most likely go down as the greatest player to have never won an mvp, and whats even weirder is he could be in the top 15 players of all time once he retires and he'll be the only one without one.

[Dengness9]

Awww, poor Wade....


I feel underappreciated at my Job too.

Who cares.

He should feel bad he gave the mother of his children a sexually transmitted disease.

[Sarcastic]

Pretty sure he deserves it in 03, 04 and 05 too. Arguably 02 too.

He should have gotten it for taking Marquette to the Final Four.

[Ikill]

one thing that has always bugged me was wade not winning mvp in 05-06. sure there was nash, but he really didn't deserve back to back mvps especiall with wade averaging 27/5/7 on 50% shooting on a 52 win team.
considering they gave it to nash on a 54 win team, was it really justified when wade was putting up better stats, was in fact a better player and his team had only won two less games?

i think nash did deserve the mvp, though wade deserved it too. and the sad thing is, i dont think the voters would have changed it either even if say they did win 59 games like the season before.
yeah it sucks

[f0und]

when the media gets behind someone to hype, they usually stick with them and gravitate towards them for their entire career. its in their mindset from the beginning so it becomes like second nature. its easy for them to hype up even without said player doing much, and hard for them to forget, even when said player is playing sub par. wade never got that hype coming in. he had earn his hype. for him to get equal recognition, he has to do something extraordinary. but even after he does, the media forgets about him pretty easily if his play drops for any period of time.

its a shame too cuz imo, he's easily the most exciting player in the league since jordan. big numbers, constantly attacking the rim, cirus shots, acrobatics, clutch, legendary playoff performances, etc. how can you not get behind that?

[rodman91]

I really enjoy watching him.His play style reminds me some of Jordan and Iverson. Great player and he will be probably underrated after his career done if Miami won't be a dynasty.

I hope he gets one MVP one day but his teammate is Lebron and he puts up better numbers so far.

[catch24]

As much as I like Wade (my favorite player in the league), I don't think he should be expressing how "unappreciated" he is. You're a good player and for the past 4-5 seasons, barring injuries, you've been in discussion for 'leagues best player'. Let your game do the talking and start winning some championships with this BEAST of a supporting cast; no need for all this nonsense about being underrated, lol.

You wanna talk about players flying under the radar? Look at guys like Gerald Wallace, Josh Smith, Russell Westbrook, and Zach Randolph... These dudes are definitely underrated.

[LBJFTW]

Wade led a team to a title without LeBron. LeBron will never lead a team to a title without Wade unless it's when he's much older.

You think LeBron went to Miami for South Beach and sun? You think there's any other player whose team and city LeBron would have went to and consented to share it?

LeBron went to Miami for one main reason: #3.


Led a team to a title? No matter how much in your heart of hearts you want to believe that wade could do it without Shaq, you are wrong. Just like he won't be able to do it if LBJ get's injured. LBJ got closer to a championship on his own that Wade did.

Yes, your right...LBJ just showed up to Miami. There was never a long drawn out plan with Bosh, Wade, and LBJ behind the scenes. Nope...not at all.

[KOLBCTEW]

Indeed, probably always and ever will be underrated.

[jrong]

Led a team to a title? No matter how much in your heart of hearts you want to believe that wade could do it without Shaq, you are wrong. Just like he won't be able to do it if LBJ get's injured. LBJ got closer to a championship on his own that Wade did.

Yes, your right...LBJ just showed up to Miami. There was never a long drawn out plan with Bosh, Wade, and LBJ behind the scenes. Nope...not at all.

I didn't say Wade could do it without Shaq. That doesn't change the fact that he, not Shaq, led the Heat to the championship.

And you're kidding yourself if you don't think the overwhelming reason LeBron went to Miami was Wade. That was the ace-in-the-hole the Heat had over every team during free agency. They already had a mega-star in-house.

[Sarcastic]

I didn't say Wade could do it without Shaq. That doesn't change the fact that he, not Shaq, led the Heat to the championship.

And you're kidding yourself if you don't think the overwhelming reason LeBron went to Miami was Wade. That was the ace-in-the-hole the Heat had over every team during free agency. They already had a mega-star in-house.

No, it had to do with the fact that they had space for all 3. The Heat actually didn't even have Wade under contract. If they did have Wade under contract but no room for Bosh, do you really think Lebron would go there just to play with Wade by himself?

[LBJFTW]

I didn't say Wade could do it without Shaq. That doesn't change the fact that he, not Shaq, led the Heat to the championship.

And you're kidding yourself if you don't think the overwhelming reason LeBron went to Miami was Wade. That was the ace-in-the-hole the Heat had over every team during free agency. They already had a mega-star in-house.

Lebron would not have gone to Miami if Bosh didn't go. It was a well thought out plan that all three of them put together 6 months beforehand.

[The_Yearning]

Lol Wade doesn't feel appreciated? What about all the money you are getting paid and endorsements? All the special treatments from the refs? A gift wrapped ring?

Lmao stfu and be grateful they call the game the way they do.

[LBJFTW]

Lol Wade doesn't feel appreciated? What about all the money you are getting paid and endorsements? All the special treatments from the refs? A gift wrapped ring?

Lmao stfu and be grateful they call the game the way they do.

Spot on post.

[tpols]

Lol Wade doesn't feel appreciated? What about all the money you are getting paid and endorsements? All the special treatments from the refs? A gift wrapped ring?

Lmao stfu and be grateful they call the game the way they do.
It's pretty ridiculous.. not only did wade set the finals record for FTAs but he is also the FIFTH all time for FTA per game behind big men like Petit, Shaq and Wilt.. dudes that have been getting intentionally fouled their whole careers.

[KOLBCTEW]

Lol Wade doesn't feel appreciated? What about all the money you are getting paid and endorsements? All the special treatments from the refs?
He obviously means the seemingly unilateral focus by the media of Kobe and Lebron when he himself doesn't get half as much credit for what he has done.

A gift wrapped ring?

Not so much gift wrapped as the Mav's choking in epic fashion...

[jrong]

It's pretty ridiculous.. not only did wade set the finals record for FTAs but he is also the FIFTH all time for FTA per game behind big men like Petit, Shaq and Wilt.. dudes that have been getting intentionally fouled their whole careers.

What nobody who holds this opinion ever bothers to explain is WHY the refs supposedly favor Wade so much. I mean if he's helped by the officials that much, and it's not because he's just an uncommonly and generationally great player, why do they do it? Are they attracted to him?

I mean do you think there's some kind of league conspiracy to turn a #5 draft pick into one of the all-time-greats? If anything, the league would probably have preferred if he hadn't turned out to be so good. He wrecked their Bron/Melo marketing angle and storyline and he always represents a threat to ruin the Kobe/Bron narrative. What if the Heat and Lakers meet in the Finals and Wade reduces both Kobe and LBJ to bystanders in the series? It could very well happen.

[Micku]

He was underrated in 05-06, when they won the title. It wasn't until after he won the title that got the press looking at him. Then he got injured for two years.

08-09 was his peak. He was slightly underrated still, but LeBron was also becoming better and better. They were both very great that year. The rest of the years, including now, he wasn't as impressive. He's still a great shooting guard. But LeBron being on the team is going to overshadow him unless he plays better than him.

[For_Three]

T-mobile

[Sarcastic]

What nobody who holds this opinion ever bothers to explain is WHY the refs supposedly favor Wade so much. I mean if he's helped by the officials that much, and it's not because he's just an uncommonly and generationally great player, why do they do it? Are they attracted to him?

I mean do you think there's some kind of league conspiracy to turn a #5 draft pick into one of the all-time-greats? If anything, the league would probably have preferred if he hadn't turned out to be so good. He wrecked their Bron/Melo marketing angle and storyline and he always represents a threat to ruin the Kobe/Bron narrative. What if the Heat and Lakers meet in the Finals and Wade reduces both Kobe and LBJ to bystanders in the series? It could very well happen.

What's wrong with a #5 pick? That's extremely high. Kobe was drafted like number 13.

[KOLBCTEW]

It's pretty ridiculous.. not only did wade set the finals record for FTAs
Uh.. wouldn't that be Shaq? Wade has the record for Free throws made..

[tpols]

What nobody who holds this opinion ever bothers to explain is WHY the refs supposedly favor Wade so much. I mean if he's helped by the officials that much, and it's not because he's just an uncommonly and generationally great player, why do they do it? Are they attracted to him?

I mean do you think there's some kind of league conspiracy to turn a #5 draft pick into one of the all-time-greats? If anything, the league would probably have preferred if he hadn't turned out to be so good. He wrecked their Bron/Melo marketing angle and storyline and he always represents a threat to ruin the Kobe/Bron narrative. What if the Heat and Lakers meet in the Finals and Wade reduces both Kobe and LBJ to bystanders in the series? It could very well happen.
What? Wade has been great for the league money wise.. he's made miami somewhat competitive and been another superstar to market. And now he's part of the biggest drama setting, attention getting, money making scheme the league has ever seen in the new look heat.

And as far as the FTs go it's his style of play. He jumps into defenders and literally plays for fouls more than any other superstar I've ever seen. I mean, every superstar complains to the refs but wade has a bunch of his key moves geared to get him FTs not buckets.. the step back-pump fake-jump into the defender, the way he will always leap into a defender in the paint, and the way he utilizes the euro step so that he gets clipped even when the defender is standing still. He literally plays to get to the line. Some may call this smart, but it's boring basketball. Seeing a guy try to draw fouls, whine for calls, and shoot FTs all day is annoying.

It's part of the reason I personally believe Wade has never been on the clutch level of the Lebron's and Kobe's of the league. Refs tend to swallow their whistles late in games and let the players play it out. Wade's clutch play is not as good as lebron's or kobe's because when you slow the game down to a possession by possession crawl and take the refs out of the picture he isn't as good as them.

[tpols]

Uh.. wouldn't that be Shaq? Wade has the record for Free throws made..
Was it FTs made? I forget. But it was up their in all time standings and I thought through 6 games he had the most attempts. Regardless, the fact that a wing player is fifth all time in FTA per game behind guys like shaq and wilt is kind of ridiculous. Wade and west are actually the only perimeter players in the top five.

[Sarcastic]

Uh.. wouldn't that be Shaq? Wade has the record for Free throws made..

I believe Shaq's high was 93 in a 6 game series. Wade took 97.

[macpierce]

what a dumbass, freaking lebron james is on your team, maybe you should of thought of this before giving the AOK to let him in the team.
of course lebron james would overshadow wade

[kaiiu]

U feel unappreciated but u ask LeHype to join your team??

[KOLBCTEW]

Was it FTs made? I forget. But it was up their in all time standings and I thought through 6 games he had the most attempts. Regardless, the fact that a wing player is fifth all time in FTA per game behind guys like shaq and wilt is kind of ridiculous. Wade and west are actually the only perimeter players in the top five.
Meh, blame Dallas; they're the ones who kept fouling him as they had no other way to stop him from driving to the hoop.
what a dumbass, freaking lebron james is on your team, maybe you should of thought of this before giving the AOK to let him in the team.
of course lebron james would overshadow wade

U feel unappreciated but u ask LeHype to join your team??
Please.. the Lebron James media gravy train would've continued with or without him joining the Heat.

[ATL_Bball_King]

How is the man underappreciated...People call him the second or third best player in the world...it goes

Kobe
Lebron
Wade

or

Lebron
Kobe
Wade

or

Lebron
Wade
Kobe

What is he talking about...Every knows how good you are wade...You just didnt get MVP...Kobe only got one...Shaq only got one...Is not that serious...He needs to worry bout that ring...Forget MVP...Its more political...Than just raw "who is the best"...Why do people care so much about what other people think about them...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[ATL_Bball_King]

U feel unappreciated but u ask LeHype to join your team??


:applause: :applause: :applause:

[Ikill]

what a dumbass, freaking lebron james is on your team, maybe you should of thought of this before giving the AOK to let him in the team.
of course lebron james would overshadow wade
the thing is Lebron is not overshadowing Wade and he's not talking about this year only he's talking about his whole career in general.

[Ikill]

How is the man underappreciated...People call him the second or third best player in the world...it goes

Kobe
Lebron
Wade

or

Lebron
Kobe
Wade

or

Lebron
Wade
Kobe

What is he talking about...Every knows how good you are wade...You just didnt get MVP...Kobe only got one...Shaq only got one...Is not that serious...He needs to worry bout that ring...Forget MVP...Its more political...Than just raw "who is the best"...Why do people care so much about what other people think about them...:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
everyone knows he's a top 3 player but he's just as good as Lebron/Kobe but doesn't get near the hype they do. Actually lots of people think Durant and Dwight are better than Wade

[LBJFTW]

U feel unappreciated but u ask LeHype to join your team??

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Wade@Owned.com

[ashbelly]

Awww, poor Wade....


I feel underappreciated at my Job too.

Who cares.

He should feel bad he gave the mother of his children a sexually transmitted disease.


You fool, if you knew anything, the ***** confessed of sleeping around with everybody behind wade. The ***** gave him the std.. "ole, i will only hear what i want to" looking ass nikkah. The court papers are all over the internet :facepalm

Wade is a beast . He's leading all guards statwise this season. Love his game..

[boozehound]

wait, so they overlook and underlook him, all at once? Dude needs to get his eyes checked.

[Heat007]

Can you really blame him??

Dwyane Wade in 2009

30.2 ppg on over 49% shooting, 5rpg, 7.5apg, 2.2spg, 1.7bpg

LeBron James MVP season in 2009

28.4ppg on under 49% shooting, 7.6rpg, 7.2apg, 1.7spg, 1.2bpg


And up until then on "per minute" for their "careers":


Dwyane Wade:

Points – 0.68
Assists – 0.18
Rebounds – 0.14
Steals – 0.05
Blocks – 0.03

LeBron James:

Points – 0.69
Assists – 0.17
Rebounds – 0.17
Steals – 0.04
Blocks – 0.02

And Wade's defensive performance has been better than LeBron's over the years as the defensive synergy numbers CLEARLY show over the years.

This year LeBron is better than Wade. But remember that Wade sat out preseason with an injury and it took him a month to get into game shape as he couldn't work with that injury he had (only averaged 20 pts in the first month of the season). And also he had wrist issues in the middle of the season where he had to tape it up for awhile, and was favoring his wrist for over a month.

Despite all that Wade is Top 3 in the NBA for PER this year (and the ONLY true guard listed there) with LeBron (only Dwight Howard is in the Top 3 with them -- and since the all star break Wade is 2nd in the NBA for pts per game at 26.7 - only behind LeBron since the break.

[Dengness9]

You fool, if you knew anything, the ***** confessed of sleeping around with everybody behind wade. The ***** gave him the std.. "ole, i will only hear what i want to" looking ass nikkah. The court papers are all over the internet :facepalm

Wade is a beast . He's leading all guards statwise this season. Love his game..

2 things.


1. U mad

2. Rose is leading all guards in team wins, most important stat right now.

[boozehound]

also, how anyone with a rabid army of fanboi's defending his godlike abilities can be considered underrated is beyond me.

[Heat007]

This shows how truly underrated Wade has been:


http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html


He's also in the Top 10 for ALLTIME career "playoff" PER ;-)

[Glide2keva]

PER withstanding.

I think that Wade is one of the most underappreciated players in the game. I'm a huge Wade fan, and his game is a joy to watch. A guy 6'4" playing like he's 6'7", can score in the lane, can shoot, hits big shots, and has really good defense.

People can talk about 2006 all they want, but what I saw, and it started with the Bulls series that year, was a young player taking a team of vets on his back and willing them to a title. He litterally got guys a ring who otherwise had no shot at one (Walker, Zo, GP, Haslem, etc.)

Wade is my second favorite player beyond Derrick Rose and he was first before Rose came in the league. I have no other players I'm a fan of.

So, to me, he has been underappreciated.

[Heat007]

PER withstanding.

I think that Wade is one of the most underappreciated players in the game. I'm a huge Wade fan, and his game is a joy to watch. A guy 6'4" playing like he's 6'7", can score in the lane, can shoot, hits big shots, and has really good defense.

People can talk about 2006 all they want, but what I saw, and it started with the Bulls series that year, was a young player taking a team of vets on his back and willing them to a title. He literally got guys a ring

So, to me, he has been underappreciated.
His rebounding is so underrated too because he consistently beats much bigger men in traffic for boards down low. And of course how often he blocks big men at the rim. He blocked a 7 footer there last night, and DOES it ALL THE TIME !

Wade is the ALLTIME leader for blocks per game average for guards.. in NBA history.

His post up game down low is also extremely underrated. And his face up game. An NBA trainer/coach said his post up game is like looking at old footage of michael jordan posting up.

Wade plays so much bigger than his size it's ridiculous. He plays so much bigger than his size in many areas of the game, but he also plays smaller because of his lightning quickness and change of direction ability - to go with jaw dropping hesitation moves, headfakes, body fakes when attacking the rim - his quintessential eurostep that messes up defenders down low as he is a genius at faking it when defenders think he's going to use it, then he either slithers right by them or overpowers them and defenders are so vulnerable to relinquish the foul because they're just too late at that point.

Wade = Top 5 player all time in drawing fouls per game. Tied with Shaq for 4th alltime at 9.4 drawn fouls per game for a career. in the company of guys like Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West etc. His combination of skills is why he's been called the most unguardable player in the NBA by his peers and NBA coaches.

Wade is simply the closest we have ever seen to Jordan in attacking the rack off the dribble with his unique blend of athleticism, speed, agility, change of direction, explosion, ball control at high speeds, and STRENGTH/POWER... People forget how "strong" Jordan was.

Wade is like that. Only Jordan possessed so many attributes in the "VARIETY" of ways he can attack the rack. That's the key here - in the "Variety".. And did it at such high efficiency.

[Kellogs4toniee]

I really don't understand how he's under-appreciated. His first couple years in the league I can see, since he was over-shadowed by Lebron. But after that Finals performance, Wade has always been widely considered either the best or the second best guard in the league. The past two years he's been generally considered second best behind Lebron after his 2009 MVP caliber season. What's the confusion here?

[boozehound]

I really don't understand how he's under-appreciated. His first couple years in the league I can see, since he was over-shadowed by Lebron. But after that Finals performance, Wade has always been widely considered either the best or the second best guard in the league. The past two years he's been generally considered second best behind Lebron after his 2009 MVP caliber season. What's the confusion here?
because those accolades just arent enough. wade is bigger than jebus!

[Glide2keva]

His rebounding is so underrated too because he consistently beats much bigger men in traffic for boards down low. And of course how often he blocks big men at the rim. He blocked a 7 footer there last night, and DOES it ALL THE TIME !

Wade is the ALLTIME leader for blocks per game average for guards.. in NBA history.

His post up game down low is also extremely underrated. And his face up game. An NBA trainer/coach said his post up game is like looking at old footage of michael jordan posting up.

Wade plays so much bigger than his size it's ridiculous. He plays so much bigger than his size in many areas of the game, but he also plays smaller because of his lightning quickness and change of direction ability - to go with jaw dropping hesitation moves, headfakes, body fakes when attacking the rim - his quintessential eurostep that messes up defenders down low as he is a genius at faking it when defenders think he's going to use it, then he either slithers right by them or overpowers them and defenders are so vulnerable to relinquish the foul because they're just too late at that point.

Wade = Top 5 player all time in drawing fouls per game. Tied with Shaq for 4th alltime at 9.4 drawn fouls per game for a career. in the company of guys like Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West etc. His combination of skills is why he's been called the most unguardable player in the NBA by his peers and NBA coaches.

Wade is simply the closest we have ever seen to Jordan in attacking the rack off the dribble with his unique blend of athleticism, speed, agility, change of direction, explosion, ball control at high speeds, and STRENGTH/POWER... People forget how "strong" Jordan was.

Wade is like that. Only Jordan possessed so many attributes in the "VARIETY" of ways he can attack the rack. That's the key here - in the "Variety".. And did it at such high efficiency.
I was saying those things for years about Wade, and told people during the draft year that whomever got Wade was getting a monster.

Melo and lbronze got the hype, Wade got the ring.

That's all that is important. I really like Wade's defense, he is completely underrated in that area. And yes he has those intagibles that Jordan had, just in a shorter package.

But dude, you gotta stop shitting on Rose, no one is saying Rose is better than Wade, but their games are eerily similar. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.

[BoxOutBOXOUT]

Wade underrated? LOL. The guy's ego is bigger than his jaw. If anything, the guy is OVERrated. He hasn't done sh*t without Shaq. I don't even see him as a top 5 player, muchless MVP of the league. If he wants the accolades then maybe he should start winning instead of throwing drug-fueled STD-infested orgies.

[rodman91]

U feel unappreciated but u ask LeHype to join your team??
http://images0.cpcache.com/product/358292770v2_480x480_Front.jpg

[Glide2keva]

Wade underrated? LOL. The guy's ego is bigger than his jaw. If anything, the guy is OVERrated. He hasn't done sh*t without Shaq. I don't even see him as a top 5 player, muchless MVP of the league. If he wants the accolades then maybe he should start winning instead of throwing drug-fueled STD-infested orgies.
The Hate is strong with you.

[kaiiu]

Wade underrated? LOL. The guy's ego is bigger than his jaw. If anything, the guy is OVERrated. He hasn't done sh*t without Shaq. I don't even see him as a top 5 player, muchless MVP of the league. If he wants the accolades then maybe he should start winning instead of throwing drug-fueled STD-infested orgies.
:roll:

[Loneshot]

so what iverson was 6'0' is arguably better than wade and he won one mvp award he should stop crying

Seriously, the guy is good but he's acting like he's an innovator and he's changed the game. GTFO here.:lol

[Heat007]

His rebounding is so underrated too because he consistently beats much bigger men in traffic for boards down low. And of course how often he blocks big men at the rim. He blocked a 7 footer there last night, and DOES it ALL THE TIME !

Wade is the ALLTIME leader for blocks per game average for guards.. in NBA history.

His post up game down low is also extremely underrated. And his face up game. An NBA trainer/coach said his post up game is like looking at old footage of michael jordan posting up.

Wade plays so much bigger than his size it's ridiculous. He plays so much bigger than his size in many areas of the game, but he also plays smaller because of his lightning quickness and change of direction ability - to go with jaw dropping hesitation moves, headfakes, body fakes when attacking the rim - his quintessential eurostep that messes up defenders down low as he is a genius at faking it when defenders think he's going to use it, then he either slithers right by them or overpowers them and defenders are so vulnerable to relinquish the foul because they're just too late at that point.

Wade = Top 5 player all time in drawing fouls per game. Tied with Shaq for 4th alltime at 9.4 drawn fouls per game for a career. in the company of guys like Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West etc. His combination of skills is why he's been called the most unguardable player in the NBA by his peers and NBA coaches.

Wade is simply the closest we have ever seen to Jordan in attacking the rack off the dribble with his unique blend of athleticism, speed, agility, change of direction, explosion, ball control at high speeds, and STRENGTH/POWER... People forget how "strong" Jordan was.

Wade is like that. Only Jordan possessed so many attributes in the "VARIETY" of ways he can attack the rack. That's the key here - in the "Variety".. And did it at such high efficiency.

Just to expound on that. Here is a good example of what he does all the time, consistently. He beats a man bigger than him either by elevation and/or out muscling him with an incredible rebound - then goes down the court and dunks over a 7 footer like Okafor easily.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSpvx6Gvzc8

Wade, like Jordan had, has that ability to track the ball extremely well while it's in the air before it hits the rim to determine the area where the ball will land, and has an uncanny ability to position himself there for the rebound before the ball hit's the rim... this is also an underrated ability of his. As well as his passing ability as he can make ridiculous passes too that are eye popping.

And some examples using his strength plowing over and through big men who are great defenders and shot blockers like Duncan, Ibaka, Perkins, Garnett, Verejao etc etc


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uRN7iJ5CqQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YckTXZ3WjA0

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6D7ouMb85s

^^ As Hubie Brown said after that play, Wade is the "TOTAL PACKAGE".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNn-csHyePo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMLzLRSQkx4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5SfA9fMiJI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CZ_PsJplxaQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PW0xSN2bS4

[eliteballer]

Hey D-Whistle, you gave up ALL MVP rights when you wimped out and joined up with LeBron AND Bosh.

[Heat007]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html

And he's a Top 10 ALLTIME player in career playoffs.

;-)

[KOLBCTEW]

Hey D-Whistle, you gave up ALL MVP rights when you wimped out and joined up with LeBron AND Bosh.Hah.. wimped out.
Coming from a Laker fan who's had stacked teams after stacked teams this is hilarious.

[Loneshot]

Hah.. wimped out.
Coming from a Laker fan who's had stacked teams after stacked teams this is hilarious.

Kobe never willfully joined the consensus number or two player in the league. People can't use Shaq as an example because Kobe wasn't even elite when he was backing up Shaq to titles. Gasol? So Kobe's got a skilled big man? Necessary for a championship team. No one says Duncan, Parker, or Ginobili used each other for titles. It's called having a complete team.

[rodman91]

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html

And he's a Top 10 ALLTIME player in career playoffs.

;-)

David Robinson would be 4th best player if efficiency were telling the real story.

Not dissing Wade.He has been great playoff performer so far.But efficiency ratings suck to determine who is better.

[jrong]

Seriously, the guy is good but he's acting like he's an innovator and he's changed the game. GTFO here.:lol

There's never been a player Wade's size that plays like Wade. As somebody said, he's sort of a Jordan/Iverson cross-- poor man's MJ crossed with rich man's AI if you will. A player who both plays above the rim and below the defense.

The only other ever so slightly similar player I can think of is Steve Francis, but Wade is like a 50x better version.

[Glide2keva]

There's never been a player Wade's size that plays like Wade. As somebody said, he's sort of a Jordan/Iverson cross-- poor man's MJ crossed with rich man's AI if you will. A player who both plays above the rim and below the defense.

The only other ever so slightly similar player I can think of is Steve Francis, but Wade is like a 50x better version.
This.

[gigantes]

Wade feels he has been underappreciated throughout his whole career.
tell him that for a thousandth part of his salary, i'll make it my personal mission in life to appreciate the hell out of a multimillionaire who made his fortune from playing a game.

[winwin]

BTW, Wade hasn't won a playoff series since Shaq left.
wow realy? is this true.. anyone?

[Glide2keva]

wow realy? is this true.. anyone?
It's true.

2007 they got swept (with shaq)

and they haven't won since then.

[KOLBCTEW]

People can't use Shaq as an example because Kobe wasn't even elite when he was backing up Shaq to titles..
So what if he wasn't Elite? Going by this type of ridiculous logic it wouldn't matter because he still teamed up with the man didn't he; thereby 'wimping' out instead of first doing it himself.

[Replay32]

All defensive team 2009-2010 season.

Kobe 1st team all defense

D-Wade 2nd team all defense
:facepalm

[Ikill]

So what if he wasn't Elite? Going by this type of ridiculous logic it wouldn't matter because he still teamed up with the man didn't he; thereby 'wimping' out instead of first doing it himself.
yeah he could of asked to be traded from LA so he could be the man right away

[Loneshot]

It's true.

2007 they got swept (with shaq)

and they haven't won since then.

So how can you be under appreciated when you haven't done a whole lot to be appreciated for. Let me guess, he wants us to check his stats :violin:

[Replay32]

I think he is not appreciated by the people who don't give him credit for his 2006 playoff run.

I watched every single game that entire playoffs and it was one of the greatest things I've witness. He carried the heat and was clutch.

People want to talk about his FT's against Dallas, but anyone who watched that series and paid attention would know that wade wasn't getting to the line a lot down the stretch in games 3,4, and 5. He was hitting clutch bucket after clutch bucket. Post ups, drives, bank shots, mid range, reverse spins from mid range. It was truly amazing.

[Ikill]

So how can you be under appreciated when you haven't done a whole lot to be appreciated for. Let me guess, he wants us to check his stats :violin:
leading those horrible Heat teams to the playoffs should be appreciated

[Glide2keva]

I think he is not appreciated by the people who don't give him credit for his 2006 playoff run.

I watched every single game that entire playoffs and it was one of the greatest things I've witness. He carried the heat and was clutch.

People want to talk about his FT's against Dallas, but anyone who watched that series and paid attention would know that wade wasn't getting to the line a lot down the stretch in games 3,4, and 5. He was hitting clutch bucket after clutch bucket. Post ups, drives, mid range, reverse spins from mid range. It was truly amazing.
Amazingly, the series in on DVD and yet people boil it down to free throws. Wade killed Dallas and wasn't due to the refs. He out-played a whole team, by himself.

[Loneshot]

leading those horrible Heat teams to the playoffs should be appreciated

Better players have made due with less. What will his excuse be when the Heat don't make it to the finals?

[Ikill]

Better players have made due with worse. What will his excuse be when the Heat don't make it to the finals?
theres no excuse IF he doesn't make the finals. Heat without Wade last year 20 wins at most
JO/Haslem/Beasley/Wright/chalmers thats worse than the Wizards and Twolves

[hitmanyr2k]

All defensive team 2009-2010 season.

Kobe 1st team all defense

D-Wade 2nd team all defense
:facepalm

That's the only underappreaciated part of Wade's game really. He certainly deserved first team All-Defense that season.

[Heat007]

LOL Wade had an old and finished jermaine oneal and a crappy inconsistent Beasley who was wet in the ears as his first two options.;

it was a MIRACLE that Wade took them to the playoffs the last 2 seasons.

Wade shot 57% and averaged 34 pts on the Celtics defense in the playoff series last year, with a historical game of 67% shooting that has never been done on a celtics defense in their long and storied history in the playoffs.

Please tell me which of the other 4 starters on the Heat would start on that Celtics team last year.

Thanks for playing.

Wade has always been dealt crappy teams, and the two seasons he did have decent teams they were old and injury prone. Shaq had multiple injury issues in LA and thats why they got rid of him and he saw 10 minutes LESS per game in miami. And an old jason williams, an old gary payton. An old Antoine friggin Walker was his best 3 point shooter for god sakes !!


Shall i go on?

There's a good reason why Vegas had the Pistons as HEAVY favorites in the conference finals in 06. They were the #1 ranked defense with the best record in the NBA (and a franchise record 64 wins). Wade made their defense look ridiculous shooting 62% for that series. And followed it up with the best Finals performance in NBA history against the 2nd ranked defense in the West. The Mavs were massive favorites in that series as well and Wade made them look silly-

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=FinalsPerformances-1

Absolutely silly. His playoff runs in 05 and 06 is the best all-around and mature guard play we have seen in the playoffs since Jordan. No question about it. He has another title now if he didn't get injured when they were up 3 games to 2 on the Pistons in 2005... the same Pistons team with the same 5 starters in 05 that made kobe/shaq and the Lakers look stupid in the 04 Finals. Beating them in 5 and blowing out the Lakers in 3 games.

[KenneBell]

Unappreciated relative to who? Kobe and LeBron?

He's really not going to achieve that type of fame and recognition for various reasons. He hasn't won as much as Kobe or been in the public spotlight for as long. He didn't have the hype LeBron had or the MVP's and what not. I don't think he can really do anything about it either.

[brantonli]

I think he definitely knew how it felt to be a bottom feeder after the Heat fell off after their 2006 run. I remember thinking for a while between then and (well basically the end of last season), when Miami were basically a lottery team, 'how come I haven't heard about Wade for a while?' If you're not winning, you basically get little to no media attention (unless you're a rookie or doing something historic, like Griffin or Love).

[rodman91]

Unless Heat will be dynasty, he will be underrated. Even if they win 3-5 championship he might be still underrated cos of Lebron hype.

Underappreciated.. well he got one ring and one finals MVP. I mean, if he wants to appreciated as much as Kobe or Lebron... He must win an MVP and several championships or 2 MVP before asking for it.

People tell him he is top 3 player right now..so thats good enough for what he did.

[drew222]

wade is right were he needs to be he's the perimeter version of david robinson oh and prime wade was a level down from prime kobe and lebron check out this full court d kobe put on him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4

[ThaSwagg3r]

Robbed in 06, 07, 08 and 09 of the MVP. Past 5 years in fact.:banghead: :banghead:
:facepalm

[Heat007]

check out this full court d kobe put on him

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202491

When they were bridged in their prime Wade looked FAR better than kobe in the olympics, it wasn't close. Not to mention Wade did far better when they had similar supporting casts (THREE times), including Wade's rookie year in 04 where they did far better with the 3 players kobe then had in 05.

[Ikill]

wade is right were he needs to be he's the perimeter version of david robinson oh and prime wade was a level down from prime kobe and lebron check out this full court d kobe put on him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4
Wade whens he is playing at his best looks better than lebron or Kobe playing at their best.

[drew222]

[url]When they were bridged in the prime Wade looked FAR better than kobe in the olympics, it wasn't close. Not to mention Wade did far better when they had similar supporting casts (THREE times), including Wade's rookie year where they did far better with the 3 players kobe then had in 05

well since you work for wade explain how he got swept in the first round of the playoffs?

[Ikill]

well since you work for wade explain how he got swept in the first round of the playoffs?
he was injured he wasn't even supposed to play

[Replay32]

wade is right were he needs to be he's the perimeter version of david robinson oh and prime wade was a level down from prime kobe and lebron check out this full court d kobe put on him http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHGleTaT2x4

I remember this game.
This was the year wade had knee surgery and came back early to try to help his team. Wasn't this the year the heat went 15-67 and by the end of the year wade could barely even run up and down the court. He played with a limp pretty much the entire year and was far from 100%. Wade looked even worse in the game in LA. He could barely move and I remember reggie miller saying wade was obvious not 100% and shouldn't even be playing.

Wade was hurt with shoulder and knee problems for 2 years.

This clip=fail. :facepalm

When wade is healthy he has consistently got the best of kobe.

This is wade was doing to kobe when he was healthy and kobe had scrubs for teammates. Remember when kobe was #8.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJTru6GhyyQ

[Heat007]

And of course, we know what happens when Wade is healthy and they're ACTUALLY matched up on one another.

http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=202491

Again, When they were bridged in their primes and healthy Wade looked FAR better than kobe in the olympics, it wasn't close. Not to mention Wade did far better when they had similar supporting casts (THREE times), including Wade's rookie year in 04 where they did far better with the 3 players kobe then had in 05.

[Funnyfuka]

it's his behavior, his face, his body.
It takes the whole package to be considered the greatest; physique, face, behavior..AND skills.

[crisoner]

Wade won one title and has been a good player on a bad team the last couple of years before landing LeBron and Bosh.

He got good years ahead of him most likely so tell him to have a Coke and a smile and shut the f*ck up about being unappreciated if he really feels that way.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

he was injured he wasn't even supposed to play

WHICH Series?

And can people stop discrediting the Miami Heat cast in 08-10.

Enuff of this shiit. Wade can't magically add 40 wins to any roster.

Beasley, Chamlers, Haslem, JO, Wright, Cook with a defensive minded coach isnt as bad as you guys are making it out to be.

Those guys were meant to look like scrubs in "Wade offense" which is a horrible offensive set

[drew222]

so Heat007 if wade has been better than kobe for a while he must be a top 10 player all time right?

[Ikill]

WHICH Series?

And can people stop discrediting the Miami Heat cast in 08-10.

Enuff of this shiit. Wade can't magically add 40 wins to any roster.

Beasley, Chamlers, Haslem, JO, Wright, Cook with a defensive minded coach isnt as bad as you guys are making it out to be.

Those guys were meant to look like scrubs in "Wade offense" which is a horrible offensive set
2007 against Bulls. That team is actually really shiit at most 20 wins the only team worse than that is Cleveland and i'm not even sure about that

[dr8ked]

WHICH Series?

And can people stop discrediting the Miami Heat cast in 08-10.

Enuff of this shiit. Wade can't magically add 40 wins to any roster.

Beasley, Chamlers, Haslem, JO, Wright, Cook with a defensive minded coach isnt as bad as you guys are making it out to be.

Those guys were meant to look like scrubs in "Wade offense" which is a horrible offensive set

it's really not, he had scrubs in his teams, when J'oneal can shoot 1-8 FG in the playoffs when he's supposed to be wade's sidekick, that can't get you past the 1st round.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

2007 Bulls


[QUOTE] The Bulls won their first playoff series since the 1998 NBA Finals and the retirement of Michael Jordan. This was the Bulls first 4-game sweep, since sweeping the Orlando Magic back in the 1996 Eastern Conference Finals. Meanwhile, Miami became the first defending champion in NBA history since 1957 to be swept in the First Round the following season.

In addition, Southeast Division champions Miami and other division qualifiers Washington and Orlando were swept (0

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

it's really not, he had scrubs in his teams, when J'oneal can shoot 1-8 FG in the playoffs when he's supposed to be wade's sidekick, that can't get you past the 1st round.

Yeah that proof of how bad of a coach Spo really is.

SMFH

[Heat007]

Yeah that proof of how bad of a coach Spo really is.

SMFH

Spo took over after that 2008 season and had the best one-year turnaround from a bad team in NBA history.

This is his 3rd season as coach. He turned a team that didn't have much defensive help aside from Wade into a Top 5 defense in many categories last year

[Heat007]

Please tell me which of the 4 other starters besides Wade could have started on that Celtics team in last year's playoffs.

Wade was 57% shooting averaging 34 points for the series, but what about the other 4 guys?? Arroyo better than Rondo? really????

Beasley better than Garnett ?

what about the other guys? Was Miami's SF better than Paul Pierce ?

Please man.

[whoartthou]

it's his behavior, his face, his body.
It takes the whole package to be considered the greatest; physique, face, behavior..AND skills.
What?

Do you mean you have to have a good looking face?

[Ikill]

it's his behavior, his face, his body.
It takes the whole package to be considered the greatest; physique, face, behavior..AND skills.
what are you trying to say

[Ikill]

Please tell me which of the 4 other starters besides Wade could have started on that Celtics team in last year's playoffs.

Wade was 57% shooting averaging 34 points for the series, but what about the other 4 guys?? Arroyo better than Rondo? really????

Beasley better than Garnett ?

what about the other guys? Was Miami's SF better than Paul Pierce ?

Please man.
none of them could but forget Celtics other than Beasley nobody on that team could of started for another team

[the_wise_one]

That's what you get for winning a rigged championship.

[Ikill]

That's what you get for winning a rigged championship.
:facepalm

[gilalizard]

All the ref love he gets more than makes up for any awards.

[SinJackal]

I don't think he's been underappreciated at all. He's been considered a top 5 player in the NBA almost every season besides his injury season ever since he won the championship.

Maybe he's annoyed that he's been considered the 2nd best SG? I guess that would be annoying, but I don't think he's ever been underrated. He's among the tops of everyone's lists every year. Usually top 3-4 from what I see from most people.

[Heat007]

again,


Can you really blame him??

Dwyane Wade in 2009

30.2 ppg on over 49% shooting, 5rpg, 7.5apg, 2.2spg, 1.7bpg

LeBron James MVP season in 2009

28.4ppg on under 49% shooting, 7.6rpg, 7.2apg, 1.7spg, 1.2bpg


And up until then on "per minute" for their "careers":


Dwyane Wade:

Points – 0.68
Assists – 0.18
Rebounds – 0.14
Steals – 0.05
Blocks – 0.03

LeBron James:

Points – 0.69
Assists – 0.17
Rebounds – 0.17
Steals – 0.04
Blocks – 0.02

Three of the 5 belong to Wade, and they are basically neck and neck for everything through their careers.

And Wade's defensive performance has been better than LeBron's over the years as the defensive synergy numbers CLEARLY show over the years.

This year LeBron is better than Wade. But remember that Wade sat out preseason with an injury and it took him a month to get into game shape as he couldn't work with that injury he had (only averaged 20 pts in the first month of the season). And also he had wrist issues in the middle of the season where he had to tape it up for awhile, and was favoring his wrist for over a month.

Despite all that Wade is Top 3 in the NBA for PER this year (and the ONLY true guard listed there) with LeBron (only Dwight Howard is in the Top 3 with them -- and since the all star break Wade is 2nd in the NBA for pts per game at 26.7 - only behind LeBron since the break.

Very underrated.

[donald_trump]

some of you clearly dont get it.

being left of defensive teams when he clearly deserved the spot over certain people, all nba teams as a matter of fact. and even being underrated by the casual fan.

[Ikill]

some of you clearly dont get it.

being left of defensive teams when he clearly deserved the spot over certain people, all nba teams as a matter of fact. and even being underrated by the casual fan.
casual fans think Durant Rose Dwight Kobe Lebron are all better than Wade so they don't even consider him a top 5 player.

[redsoxballer]

He's underrated by the media and casual fan, but I think Heat fans really overrate him. I see people ranking him over Kobe the past 4-5 years, and I just don't get it.

[Ikill]

He's underrated by the media and casual fan, but I think Heat fans really overrate him. I see people ranking him over Kobe the past 4-5 years, and I just don't get it.
Nothing wrong with that he has case over Kobe for 05 06 09 10 and this year unless they say Wade is clearly better. If you don't have Wade over Kobe this year your underrating him.

[Ikill]

people are always trying to find players to put above Wade
First Melo then Paul then Durant now Dwight

["Jesus"]

Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[kidachi]

Robbed in 06, 07, 08 and 09 of the MVP. Past 5 years in fact.:banghead: :banghead:


:facepalm Wade only played like 50-55 games in 06-07 and the Heat were 15-67 in 07-08.. and he only played 51 games..

[dr8ked]

He's underrated by the media and casual fan, but I think Heat fans really overrate him. I see people ranking him over Kobe the past 4-5 years, and I just don't get it.

wade>>> kobe .. thats a fact i can debate all day long :oldlol:

[Nash-tastic]

Robbed of the MVP in the 2009 season.

[DMAVS41]

Wade is definitely under-rated. I don't think he's ever been robbed of MVP though.

I think people forget that this is only his 8th year and that he has played on only 2 teams capable of winning a title. One of those years, injuries derailed his chance to win.

Wade could easily go down as one of the 15 best players of all time if he wins a few more titles and plays another 7 years.

[D.J.]

Robbed of the MVP in the 2009 season.


This. Took a Miami team to a 43-39 record where the best players after him were a rookie Beasley and Haslem, and came within one win of going to the second round. That team without Wade was repeating their 2007-08 season.

[LilEddyCurry]

Wade's dear team mate is over-shadowing him

[Jacks3]

He's pretty overrated actually. The one ring he won he clearly didn't deserve, and this year he has LeBron James and Bosh and isn't even going to win 60 games. Very disappointing. Oh, and he once only won 15 games. LOL

[L.A. Jazz]

why is he talking about this? go out there and play!

[rodman91]

He's pretty overrated actually. The one ring he won he clearly didn't deserve, and this year he has LeBron James and Bosh and isn't even going to win 60 games. Very disappointing. Oh, and he once only won 15 games. LOL

He deserved that ring very well. Refs called too many calls on him but he was still great in those finals and playoffs.

This year, everybody is focusing on James,Bosh but what about other players. All they got is some veterans who might consider retiring easily.Also they are new built team and have young kid as head coach. Team was overhyped.

http://img217.imageshack.us/i/gtffout.gif/

[madmax]

He's like the 3rd best player in the game today, after Lebron and Dwight, so how he's underrated again? Dude was always a baller and the best SG of the league for the last 3 years or so. Not underrated

[DMAVS41]

He's like the 3rd best player in the game today, after Lebron and Dwight, so how he's underrated again? Dude was always a baller and the best SG of the league for the last 3 years or so. Not underrated

I don't think many people would agree with you though. I would, but most wouldn't and I think that is kind of his point.

I don't want this to become a Wade vs. Kobe debate, but I'd take Wade for a number of years since 2005 over Kobe. I think a lot of hardcore fans that pay attention to everything would agree that Wade has often been the best shooting guard in the game.

However, casual fans and the media really don't think of Wade like that. They don't think of him as an all-time great player. I have no idea why. He's good looking, has a nice personality, he's marketable, and he's won a title and a Finals MVP to go along with great career numbers.

[Jacks3]

He deserved that ring very well. Refs called too many calls on him but he was still great in those finals and playoffs.

]
Nope. Refs gave him that ring. It should have gone to Dallas. It's easy to be great when guys literally can't touch you.

[Jacks3]

but I'd take Wade for a number of years since 2005 over Kobe. .
:roll:

[DMAVS41]

:roll:

Why do you feel this way?

I think Wade was better in 2005 and 2009. I also think Wade has been the better player this year as well.

[Jacks3]

Of course a Prime Wade is better than a guy who's been out of his for about 2-3 years now...

[PJR]

Nope. Refs gave him that ring. It should have gone to Dallas. It's easy to be great when guys literally can't touch you.

People love to revise history. Wade might have got like 4 or 5 dubious calls that entire series. All that "refs gave it to him" is crap. The reality is Wade was a phenom that entire postseason.

[Hihater]

I don't think many people would agree with you though. I would, but most wouldn't and I think that is kind of his point.

I don't want this to become a Wade vs. Kobe debate, but I'd take Wade for a number of years since 2005 over Kobe. I think a lot of hardcore fans that pay attention to everything would agree that Wade has often been the best shooting guard in the game.

However, casual fans and the media really don't think of Wade like that. They don't think of him as an all-time great player. I have no idea why. He's good looking, has a nice personality, he's marketable, and he's won a title and a Finals MVP to go along with great career numbers.
Casual fans and media? So you telling me nba player and nba analysis is wrong by saying kobe is better? i can said d-wade is better then kobe this year but for the last few year kobe was better.

[Jacks3]

People love to revise history. Wade might have got like 4 or 5 dubious calls that entire series. All that "refs gave it to him" is crap. The reality is Wade was a phenom that entire postseason.
Yeah right. 16 FTA's per game. 16. 4-5 bad calls? LMAO!

There is no revisionist history. EVERYBODY thinks that series was shady outside of Wade homers/Heat fans.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Robbed of the MVP in the 2009 season.

No, Lebron led a decent, but not cast to an all time great regular season in 2009. Cleveland went 66-16 overall and 39-2 at home. It almost surely would have been a record-tying 40-1 at home and 67-15 overall had they not rested Lebron, Mo and Z on the last game of the season(a game they lost by 1 point in OT). Lebron put up 28/8/7, 49 FG%, 59 TS%, stepped up his defense and could've put up even more incredible numbers if he didn't rest so much in the 4th quarter.

Wade was great, but Lebron was one of the most obvious MVP choices in NBA history that year.

[DMAVS41]

No, Lebron led a decent, but not cast to an all time great regular season in 2009. Cleveland went 66-16 overall and 39-2 at home. It almost surely would have been a record-tying 40-1 at home and 67-15 overall had they not rested Lebron, Mo and Z on the last game of the season(a game they lost by 1 point in OT). Lebron put up 28/8/7, 49 FG%, 59 TS%, stepped up his defense and could've put up even more incredible numbers if he didn't rest so much in the 4th quarter.

Wade was great, but Lebron was one of the most obvious MVP choices in NBA history that year.

Wade has never deserved MVP any year of his career. Doesn't mean he isn't great, but he just hasn't had the best year out of anyone yet. His 2009 year could have possibly won in other years, but like you said, Lebron was just too good.

[drew222]

i need to ask the wade fans a question WHEN HAS ANY GM, NBA PLAYER OR FORMER NBA PLAYER EVER SAID WADE WAS THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER IN THE NBA..... WADE IS A GREAT PLAYER BUT PLEASE SPARE ME HE'S UNDERRATED HE HAD ONE MONSTER SEASON (09) BUT GOT SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND 2007 HAD A 15 WIN SEASON BUT EVERYBODY SAYS HE'S WAS INJURED KOBE HAS BEEN PLAYING WITH A BROKEN FINGER ON HIS SHOOTING HAND FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS HAS HAD KNEE SURGERIES AND YOU CAN JUST WATCH THE GAMES AND TELL LEBRON IS BETTER THAN HIM TOO

[PurpleChuck]

i need to ask the wade fans a question WHEN HAS ANY GM, NBA PLAYER OR FORMER NBA PLAYER EVER SAID WADE WAS THE BEST BASKETBALL PLAYER IN THE NBA..... WADE IS A GREAT PLAYER BUT PLEASE SPARE ME HE'S UNDERRATED HE HAD ONE MONSTER SEASON (09) BUT GOT SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND 2007 HAD A 15 WIN SEASON BUT EVERYBODY SAYS HE'S WAS INJURED KOBE HAS BEEN PLAYING WITH A BROKEN FINGER ON HIS SHOOTING HAND FOR THE LAST 3 YEARS HAS HAD KNEE SURGERIES AND YOU CAN JUST WATCH THE GAMES AND TELL LEBRON IS BETTER THAN HIM TOO
so mad...:roll:

[jrong]

No, Lebron led a decent, but not cast to an all time great regular season in 2009. Cleveland went 66-16 overall and 39-2 at home. It almost surely would have been a record-tying 40-1 at home and 67-15 overall had they not rested Lebron, Mo and Z on the last game of the season(a game they lost by 1 point in OT). Lebron put up 28/8/7, 49 FG%, 59 TS%, stepped up his defense and could've put up even more incredible numbers if he didn't rest so much in the 4th quarter.

Wade was great, but Lebron was one of the most obvious MVP choices in NBA history that year.

Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but while LeBron led a "decent cast" to 66 win season, Wade led a terrible cast to the #5 seed. There is not one Heat player from the last two years who could have started for the Cavs, and many of them would have rode pine or been cut.

Like I said, I'm not saying that Wade necessarily should have gotten the award, but he should've received more consideration. What he did with his team was not much less impressive than what James did with his. As Michael Jordan said, "Without him, they have no chance to win. Without him they wouldn't win ten games."

[Heat007]

Yeah right. 16 FTA's per game. 16. 4-5 bad calls? LMAO!

There is no revisionist history. EVERYBODY thinks that series was shady outside of Wade homers/Heat fans.

and then when you see the facts you realize how stupid that statement is

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=126843

Interesting facts:

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? So I guess it really is rigged, right? :rolleyes:

Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.

The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls commited by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls commited by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything. Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting teams, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.


Quick facts:
Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.
In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.
Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.

Game 3:
Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.
Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.

Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.

So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.


Game 4:
98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.

Game 5:
This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.
Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.

Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade_395.jpg

That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7888/foul8sx.gif
Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.

Also:
Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.

http://i6.tinypic.com/14vo5n7.jpg

Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.

EDIT: Picture found.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1121/nba_g_wade_600.jpg

Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.

Game 6:
Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win.

[Ikill]

Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but while LeBron led a "decent cast" to 66 win season, Wade led a terrible cast to the #5 seed. There is not one Heat player from the last two years who could have started for the Cavs, and many of them would have rode pine or been cut.

Like I said, I'm not saying that Wade necessarily should have gotten the award, but he should've received more consideration. What he did with his team was not much less impressive than what James did with his. As Michael Jordan said, "Without him, they have no chance to win. Without him they wouldn't win ten games."
they were pretty close in value but obviously Lebron was going to get it 66 wins is crazy. I think Wade could of got it last year he only tried after the all star break and he still got them to 47 wins. If he was trying all year the Heat probably would of won around 55 games and his stats would of been just as good as his 09 stats. He then would of got it for the whole lifetime achievement thing

[az00m]

Fans don't vote fully for mvp. I state this because a lot of people actually have been saying that in this thread.

they get like 1/64 vote lol. You just think your vote actually counts :D

[Lebron23]

He's the best SG in the league. I hope Wade wins an MVP Award because he's one of the best players that I have ever seen.

[Heat007]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs2008/columns/story?columnist=hollinger_john&page=FinalsPerformances-1

http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/per_career.html

[Glide2keva]

He's the best SG in the league. I hope Wade wins an MVP Award because he's one of the best players that I have ever seen.
This.

Next year is his year.

[Vragrant]

Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but while LeBron led a "decent cast" to 66 win season, Wade led a terrible cast to the #5 seed. There is not one Heat player from the last two years who could have started for the Cavs, and many of them would have rode pine or been cut.

Like I said, I'm not saying that Wade necessarily should have gotten the award, but he should've received more consideration. What he did with his team was not much less impressive than what James did with his. As Michael Jordan said, "Without him, they have no chance to win. Without him they wouldn't win ten games."

That Heat team was really bad, terrible. His second option was a second year Beasley who only showed up every 5 games or so. His most reliable offensive option was Haslem who is a role player (a great one mind you) but only averages about 10ppg.

ESPN, CNNSI among others didn't even pick the Heat to make the playoffs and they grabbed the 5th seed. Actually the Heat were not even picked to make the playoffs the year before that and they got the 5th seed too.

People don't realize how bad those teams were outside of Wade.

[Heat007]

That Heat team was really bad, terrible. His second option was a second year Beasley who only showed up every 5 games or so. His most reliable offensive option was Haslem who is a role player (a great one mind you) but only averages about 10ppg.

ESPN, CNNSI among others didn't even pick the Heat to make the playoffs and they grabbed the 5th seed. Actually the Heat were not even picked to make the playoffs the year before that and they got the 5th seed too.

People don't realize how bad those teams were outside of Wade.
Michael Jordan certainly knew

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66lVkgiU1zQ

[Kingwillball]

Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but while LeBron led a "decent cast" to 66 win season, Wade led a terrible cast to the #5 seed. There is not one Heat player from the last two years who could have started for the Cavs, and many of them would have rode pine or been cut.

Like I said, I'm not saying that Wade necessarily should have gotten the award, but he should've received more consideration. What he did with his team was not much less impressive than what James did with his. As Michael Jordan said, "Without him, they have no chance to win. Without him they wouldn't win ten games."


Haslem would of started on Cavs. Switch Lebron and Wade with Each team pretty sure Heat would have same or more wins and Cavs would have less wins..

[tontoz]

I think a lot of people always from my whole career for the rest of my career is always going to overlook and underlook what I do as a basketball player.


Wow what a mess. I don't even know where to start.

Overlook AND underlook? Is underlook even a word? :oldlol:

"from my whole career for the rest of my career".... LOLWUT

[kaiiu]

Haslem would of started on Cavs. Switch Lebron and Wade with Each team pretty sure Heat would have same or more wins and Cavs would have less wins..
Gtfoh u lebron dick riding f@ggot. Andy> haslem. Ben Wallace > haslem

[CelticBaller]

Gtfoh u lebron dick riding f@ggot. Andy> haslem. Ben Wallace > haslem
wtf is this shit?
Haslem>>Varegina no homerism

[knightfall88]

Melo and Wade have both been underrated. Everyone had and still has Lebrons dck in their mouths even after he gave up and decided to joined 2nd best player's franchise.

[Aiolos]

and then when you see the facts you realize how stupid that statement is

http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=126843

Interesting facts:

In this playoff run, Dirk Nowitzki sets a record for must FT's hit during the playoffs shooting 209-229. Wade on the other hand shoots 202-250 with both players playing 23 games in the playoffs that year. For a player who is more of a slasher, Wade only managed to get 21 more free throws? So I guess it really is rigged, right? :rolleyes:

Furthermore, Wade shot 10 and 14 free throws in the first two games, so its not like he just got more free throws the next few games. He was already getting to the line a lot.

The total foul count in the series was 146 fouls commited by the Miami Heat and 160 fouls commited by the Mavericks. Fairly equal if anything. Furthermore, it's amazing it was soo close considering the Heat have Shaq and Wade on their team. Wade is a driver who gets a lot of free throws anyway, and Shaq is a guy who teams love to send to the line. Also, the Mavericks were more of a jumpshooting teams, with most of their driving coming from Harris and Howard.


Quick facts:
Miami outrebounded the Mavs in 4 of the 6 games in the series.
In the 4 games Miami won, they shot better in 3 of those matchups, with the only time they shot worse being by .8 of a %.
Miami shot less threes then the Dallas team in 5 of the 6 games. The one time they shot more threes then the Dallas team, they lost.

Game 3:
Mavericks up 83-71 with 8:30 left. A lot of people claim that the refs took over here and helped guide Wade to victory.
Up to the 3rd quarter Wade had shot 15 free throws. In the 4th quarter, Wade shot only 3 free throws, and only 1 free throw within the 8:30 left. So the two other free throws he shot were before the 12 point lead the Mavs had.

Not to mention with the game score was 97-95 in favor of the Heat with 3 seconds to go and Dirk gets given 2 free throws. So the Mavs were given a chance to tie the game, and Dirk only hit 1 of 2 free throws to make the score 97-96 in favor of the Heat.

So in actual fact, Wade got no free throws in that 8:30, due to the free throws he recieved being out of desperation and the Mavs hacking to be able to get another shot off. So a total of 0 shooting fouls were called for Wade in the 4th.


Game 4:
98-74 win for the Heat. Mavs shot 31% and Wade had 9 free throws. Nothing to talk about really. Mavs completely outplayed.

Game 5:
This is the game where Wade goes onto shoot as many free throws as the entire Dallas team. 21-25 went Wade and 21-25 went Dallas. Game went into overtime as well.
Wade had 22 points going into the 4th quarter. Wade scored 17 in the 4th quarter with the last 6 points all coming from jumpers. Even the game tying shot was a jumper to level the game at 93-93 with 2 seconds left. No free throws needed. 7 of Wade's 17 points came from FT's. So he basically maintained his average foul shot per quarter rate in the 4th.

Then in the overtime, the score was 100-99 in favor of the Mavs with 2 seconds left and Wade was given 2 free throws. As many of you know, at the time there was great debate as to whether this was a foul or not. The play involved Harris and Nowitzki both hacking Wade and Nowitzki being called for the foul.

http://espn.go.com/photo/2006/0618/nba_g_wade_395.jpg

That was the play for those who have forgot. Many people say this wasn't a foul. Now take a look at what happened on this play:

http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/7888/foul8sx.gif
Harris' leg clearly fouling Wade.

Also:
Dirk giving Wade a huge shove, just look at the amount of contact.

http://i6.tinypic.com/14vo5n7.jpg

Not to mention Harris grabbed Wade's other hand on the way to the basket, but I don't have a picture. He didn't just slap it, but grabbed it and didn't allow Wade to have shooting motion. That is a foul even in late game situations. Two players hacking and getting a huge amount of contact. On his leg, one arm and pushing on his back. That has to get called even in the dying seconds.

EDIT: Picture found.

http://assets.espn.go.com/photo/2007/1121/nba_g_wade_600.jpg

Harris' grabbing Wade's shooting arm, pretty much not allowing a shot to be attempted.

Game 6:
Heat win the championship with a 95-92 win.
new here to the board but this was an epic destruction of clowns that believe that series was rigged:cheers:

[Andrei89]

Heat007----> Plowking is back!:banana: :banana: :banana:

Anyway the Mavs could not stop Wade in 2006 and that's why they were fouling him.

What? They were not supposed to get Wade the FT's just because he had too many?

ISH haters are retards

[Eat Like A Bosh]

He's not underrated. He's properly rated. He's got a championship and he is one of the top 3 players in the league.

[D.J.]

The refs made some horrible calls in that '06 Finals, but to say it was rigged is absurd. Dallas had a 2-0 series lead, and had a double digit lead with six minutes left in game 3. They seal the deal in game 3, they're up 3-0 and on the way to a title. Dallas choked that series big time. They should have had a commanding 3-0 lead.

[kidachi]

LOL @ Varejao being better than Haslem..

http://cache.blippitt.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/udonis_haslem.jpg

[Colby Brian]

wades a baller, i respect his game, a finals mvp and a champ

[DMAVS41]

The refs made some horrible calls in that '06 Finals, but to say it was rigged is absurd. Dallas had a 2-0 series lead, and had a double digit lead with six minutes left in game 3. They seal the deal in game 3, they're up 3-0 and on the way to a title. Dallas choked that series big time. They should have had a commanding 3-0 lead.

Huge Dallas fan and Dirk fan here. Wade deserves his ring and the Mavericks were not cheated at all. Dirk was getting to the line so much during the playoffs that year as well. Every player was. Acting like it was just Wade is simply not accurate.

I have a huge problem with how the NBA handled the 2006 season. The refs had way too much control over the games and they made it almost impossible to stop perimeter players like Wade or Kobe or Iverson. Its not a coincidence that so many guys had monster years from the guard position.

Having said that. The rules were the same for everyone. Wade just took advantage of them more than any other player in the playoffs that year. He was unstoppable. He deserves a ton of credit for that.

[D.J.]

Huge Dallas fan and Dirk fan here. Wade deserves his ring and the Mavericks were not cheated at all. Dirk was getting to the line so much during the playoffs that year as well. Every player was. Acting like it was just Wade is simply not accurate.

I have a huge problem with how the NBA handled the 2006 season. The refs had way too much control over the games and they made it almost impossible to stop perimeter players like Wade or Kobe or Iverson. Its not a coincidence that so many guys had monster years from the guard position.

Having said that. The rules were the same for everyone. Wade just took advantage of them more than any other player in the playoffs that year. He was unstoppable. He deserves a ton of credit for that.


Not sure why you quoted me. I said Dallas choked it away.

[DMAVS41]

Not sure why you quoted me. I said Dallas choked it away.

I was agreeing with you.

[LA KB24]

I think Wade's Game is more like Jordan than Kobe's...
Young Jordan, yes.

Kobe's game is more like second 3peat Jordan.

[LA KB24]

Lol @ rigged Finals.

Guess Dirk going 2-14 in a crucial game was rigged too.

[Nobler]

so what iverson was 6'0' is arguably better than wade and he won one mvp award he should stop crying

Share those great drugs you smokin

[Ikill]

is it me or are there way more Wade fans this year?

[KOLBCTEW]

is it me or are there way more Wade fans this year?
Yeah, been seeing a bit more.

[kaiiu]

is it me or are there way more Wade fans this year?
No. Wade and lebron fans have teamed up as one

[Heat007]

The Heat have recently announced the Home Crowds will wear all White in the playoffs this year. "White Hot Heat" white out baby ! Wade is going to explode this playoff like 2006!! Just Watch when the playoff bell rings kiddies. The playoffs is when his real fight takes over his beastly majesty. Just watch in the playoffs kids. I know



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDJjMTZLVfU

"Us against the World is a POWERFUL EMOTION"!! And there's no one else I'd rather have leading a playoff run with this team mentality than D-Wade. NOBODY ELSE..

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/Catrean/dwyane-wade-whitehot.jpg

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[JohnWall2]

wade got dat game reminds me of jordan

[Dwade305]

eehhh dont like the part of "nobody 6''4 has ever done anything I have done":facepalm , :lol like really nikka, you got a Tmac like wingspan, and some big ass hands, not to mention a freakish first step comparable to the fastest 2 guards ever, Wade aint never been at a disadvantage playing his position, hopefully that wasnt were he was trying to get at.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Not disagreeing with you necessarily, but while LeBron led a "decent cast" to 66 win season, Wade led a terrible cast to the #5 seed. There is not one Heat player from the last two years who could have started for the Cavs, and many of them would have rode pine or been cut.

Like I said, I'm not saying that Wade necessarily should have gotten the award, but he should've received more consideration. What he did with his team was not much less impressive than what James did with his. As Michael Jordan said, "Without him, they have no chance to win. Without him they wouldn't win ten games."


Don't get me wrong, Wade had a phenomenal year. I think he was the second best player in the league that year, but what Lebron did that year was more historically significant, IMO. We've seen other players carry horrible teams to similar records(Kobe in '06 and '07 and T-Mac in '02 and '03).

Also, I do think Haslem was good enough to start at PF on the '09 Cavs.

[The_Yearning]

This.

Next year is his year.

Is LBJ leaving the Heat next year?

[Doranku]

Man, it sucks that LeBron went to Miami. I love watching Wade in the Playoffs, but I won't be able to enjoy his play as much because LeBron will probably be dominating the ball down the stretch.

I can definitely see a civil war playing out amongst Heat fans if they don't make the Finals this year and LeBron's play at the end of Playoff games coincides with his regular season choke jobs while Wade continues to be neglected.

[Heat007]

Man, it sucks that LeBron went to Miami. I love watching Wade in the Playoffs, but I won't be able to enjoy his play as much because LeBron will probably be dominating the ball down the stretch.

I can definitely see a civil war playing out amongst Heat fans if they don't make the Finals this year and LeBron's play at the end of Playoff games coincides with his regular season choke jobs while Wade continues to be neglected.

LOL both Wade and LeBron are #1 and #2 in the NBA for per game scoring since the all star break - at 27.5 for LeBron and 26.9 ppg for Wade..

Neglected? I'm sure any NBA player would like to be neglected scoring at that pace and efficiency.

Wade is still Top 3 in the NBA this year for PER (and the ONLY guard in the Top- 3) with LBJ and Dwight Howard despite missing all of preseason with an injury that hindered him from getting into game shape for the season ( Wade only averaged 20 pts per game in the first month of the season), and wrist issues in the middle of the season that was hampering him for over a month.

He'll be more than fine. They are keeping a lot of the offense hidden during the season as Spo admitted to keeping things in their pocket for the playoffs. Why do you think it's so rare to see Miami's triangle offense this year when it's so dominant when they decide to pull it out ?? It's called experimenting for the playoffs as Riley has stated that he likes to experiment in the season to prepare him for the playoffs. Riley is in every team meeting and practice and is there for Spo to advise.

And why do you think the Wade/LeBron pick and rolls are so rare to see in the regular season when they look so unstoppable when they do pull it out? -- and they look better than the legendary Malone/Stockton pick and rolls... not to mention the many plays they pull out that look unstoppable when they use cutters (you have 3 players who are ELITE at moving/ quickness for their positions - and even Bosh looks unstoppable as a cutting man through the paint off a pass with his speed and agility for his size).. and run cutters so effectively like the Celtics like to do.

We've already witnessed LeBron setting picks/screens and moving off the ball 100% better than he ever did in Cleveland.

But they're keeping things in their pocket for when the proper time comes as they've kept things hidden enough to not let teams prepare for them properly, or fully. But when they do opposing teams won't have the necessary time to adjust in an important playoff series. VOILA !! Riley is a very smart man.

If you think they're going to run ISO ball throughout the playoffs you're out of your mind. The playoffs is an entirely different animal than regular season basketball.

Wade neglected? LOL. He's going to shine in the playoffs as he always does in the playoffs when he has a decent team to work with. He's one of the best playoff performers ever at the guards. He's a sensational playoff performer - as is LeBron.

[Christofire]

The Heat have recently announced the Home Crowds will wear all White in the playoffs this year. "White Hot Heat" white out baby ! Wade is going to explode this playoff like 2006!! Just Watch when the playoff bell rings kiddies. The playoffs is when his real fight takes over his beastly majesty. Just watch in the playoffs kids. I know



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KDJjMTZLVfU

"Us against the World is a POWERFUL EMOTION"!! And there's no one else I'd rather have leading a playoff run with this team mentality than D-Wade. NOBODY ELSE..

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/Catrean/dwyane-wade-whitehot.jpg

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/Catrean/img13298436.jpg

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/Catrean/0021.jpg
http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/Catrean/022.png

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/Catrean/whiteheat4.jpg

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/Catrean/whiteheat7.jpg

http://i1111.photobucket.com/albums/h467/Catrean/fullgetty71596082gn014_usa_brazil_1_24_0.jpg

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i can't wait....I got a half wade half pierce jersey that my sister stitched up real nice for me to wear this year's playoffs. LOL...and my green and gold pierce jersey to wear if Miami happens to meet miami somewhere down the road. Wade is my favorite player but the green team comes First

[Doranku]

LOL both Wade and LeBron are #1 and #2 in the NBA for per game scoring since the all star break - at 27.5 for LeBron and 26.9 ppg for Wade..

Neglected? I'm sure any NBA player would like to be neglected scoring at that pace and efficiency.

Wade is still Top 3 in the NBA this year for PER (and the ONLY guard in the Top- 3) with LBJ and Dwight Howard despite missing all of preseason with an injury that hindered him from getting into game shape for the season ( Wade only averaged 20 pts per game in the first month of the season), and wrist issues in the middle of the season that was hampering him for over a month.

He'll be more than fine. They are keeping a lot of the offense hidden during the season as Spo admitted to keeping things in their pocket for the playoffs. Why do you think it's so rare to see Miami's triangle offense this year when it's so dominant when they decide to pull it out ?? It's called experimenting for the playoffs as Riley has stated that he likes to experiment in the season to prepare him for the playoffs. Riley is in every team meeting and practice and is there for Spo to advise.

And why do you think the Wade/LeBron pick and rolls are so rare to see in the regular season when they look so unstoppable when they do pull it out? -- and they look better than the legendary Malone/Stockton pick and rolls... not to mention the many plays they pull out that look unstoppable when they use cutters (you have 3 players who are ELITE at moving/ quickness for their positions - and even Bosh looks unstoppable as a cutting man through the paint off a pass with his speed and agility for his size).. and run cutters so effectively like the Celtics like to do.

We've already witnessed LeBron setting picks/screens and moving off the ball 100% better than he ever did in Cleveland.

But they're keeping things in their pocket for when the proper time comes as they've kept things hidden enough to not let teams prepare for them properly, or fully. But when they do opposing teams won't have the necessary time to adjust in an important playoff series. VOILA !! Riley is a very smart man.

If you think they're going to run ISO ball throughout the playoffs you're out of your mind. The playoffs is an entirely different animal than regular season basketball.

Wade neglected? LOL. He's going to shine in the playoffs as he always does in the playoffs when he has a decent team to work with. He's one of the best playoff performers ever at the guards. He's a sensational playoff performer - as is LeBron.

I was referring to LeBron's tendency to dominate the ball in the clutch while Wade takes a side seat and stands on the perimeter watching.

lol @ you thinking Miami has some secret force to unleash during the Playoffs. Their half court offense (or lack thereof) will be exposed even more so than it has in the regular season.

[Ikill]

I was referring to LeBron's tendency to dominate the ball in the clutch while Wade takes a side seat and stands on the perimeter watching.

lol @ you thinking Miami has some secret force to unleash during the Playoffs. Their half court offense (or lack thereof) will be exposed even more so than it has in the regular season.
Actually Lebrons been less ball dominate lately he's improved his off the ball play

[BoxOutBOXOUT]

The Heat have recently announced the Home Crowds will wear all White in the playoffs this year. "White Hot Heat" white out baby !
They'd be better off painting the seats white since most of them will be empty til like the 3rd quarter.

[Doranku]

They'd be better off painting the seats white since most of them will be empty til like the 3rd quarter.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Heat007]

They'd be better off painting the seats white since most of them will be empty til like the 3rd quarter.

LOL. Miami has a very laid back regular season crowd that likes to be fashionably late, like the LA crowd. However, they are always very vocal and present in the playoffs (dolphins, heat, marlins - even when the Panthers went to the stanley cup finals they were the loudest crowd in hockey during that playoff run). The playoffs is totally different for this city.

Go through this entire video and listen to that Heat crowd and the announcers talking about how loud they are throughout. This is just a couple years ago and it's a 1st round series (and with a crappy Heat team not nearly as talented as this year's team)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lE14QoY-i1w

And in the 2006 playoffs with the "white out"- look at the crowd at the tip off --- EVERY seat is FILLED-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5n7UEEkw8M

Believe me, the home crowd will be rowdy with this current team when the playoff bell rings.

[kaiiu]

Lol at Ginobilis alternate account. Give it up, we know its u:oldlol: