View Full Version : Derrick Rose who?
BEAST Griffin
04-17-2011, 06:01 PM
Chris Paul > Derrick Rose.
:bowdown:
I'm Seriously
04-17-2011, 06:02 PM
I hate it when people create threads stating the obvious.
Undisputed
04-17-2011, 06:05 PM
It's no mystery that the Lakers have an incredibily hard time stopping good point guards. CP3 is playing great, but I'd still take D-Rose over CP3 any day.
Harison
04-17-2011, 06:06 PM
It's no mystery that the Lakers have an incredibily hard time stopping good point guards. CP3 is playing great, but I'd still take D-Rose over CP3 any day.
:facepalm
Clocian-IGN
04-17-2011, 06:06 PM
yup, cp3 doing work on fisher and lazy laker bigs :bowdown:. why didn't he do this when he faced us?
Indian guy
04-17-2011, 06:07 PM
:facepalm
How about celebrating 2 great players?
nathanjizzle
04-17-2011, 06:07 PM
you can have chris paul, im sticking with d rose the 2nd best player....(to you that is)
Chicago Brawls
04-17-2011, 06:07 PM
Would say no to that trade.
Cannot teach age.
nightprowler10
04-17-2011, 06:07 PM
CP3 bringing it. I wish I was watching!
AirTupac
04-17-2011, 06:07 PM
Derrick Rose the guy who's better than Chris Paul.
Undisputed
04-17-2011, 06:08 PM
:facepalm
I should be giving you the facepalm. Derrick Rose is more than likely the MVP of this season, there's no more :facepalm for saying what I said. I wouldn't trade Rose for Chris Paul.
jdm_dc_fan
04-17-2011, 06:08 PM
I hate it when people create threads stating the obvious.
This. rose is right behind him though. cp3 is a true point guard.
Dripac
04-17-2011, 06:08 PM
It's no mystery that the Lakers have an incredibily hard time stopping good point guards. CP3 is playing great though, but I'd still take D-Rose over CP3 any day.
I wouldn't Paul played about 75% this regular season,Paul is a better player but he has problems with knees,if he can back to his old form,paul from 3 season ago,he will show that he is better
nathanjizzle
04-17-2011, 06:09 PM
aaron gray is good though, he didnt play like that when he was in chicago, he was much fatter also.
Droid101
04-17-2011, 06:09 PM
Chris Paul > Derrick Rose.
:bowdown:
Yep. Amazing how everybody forgets this. Give CP3 Rose's teammates? Jesus christ it would be over.
Harison
04-17-2011, 06:10 PM
I should be giving you the facepalm. Derrick Rose is more than likely the MVP of this season, there's no more :facepalm for saying what I said. I wouldn't trade Rose for Chris Paul.
CP3 is better player than Rose, there is no question about it for any sane person. What would you do is up to you of course. Trade Dwight for Kwame for all I care :oldlol:
TheAnchorman
04-17-2011, 06:10 PM
One. Game.
Undisputed
04-17-2011, 06:13 PM
CP3 is better player than Rose, there is no question about it for any sane person. What would you do is up to you of course. Trade Dwight for Kwame for all I care :oldlol:
You're entitled to your opinion. I feel differently, so does a lot of the world. Just remember Rose is only a third year player and is this good.
PP34Deuce
04-17-2011, 06:14 PM
Would say no to that trade.
Cannot teach age.
LOL Act as if Paul is 28 lol....THey are a 3 year difference with one fundamentally better.
Even in Pauls athletic 2008 frame, he was fundamental and didnt rely on his quicks and speed. ROse hasnt faced adversity with his athletiscm yet and Im curious to see how he handles it.
3 years isnt a big factor when you factor in ability and style of play.
redsoxballer
04-17-2011, 06:16 PM
CP3 could put up Rose's ppg if he chucked like Rose did, and do so with better efficency. Paul is by far the better defender and rebounder, and his playmaking is light years better. Paul makes players better (made West an allstar, Gray and Belleneli = relevant, Arizia not a scrub, etc.) and Rose makes players worse (Boozer, Deng, Korver, Watson, etc.)
redsoxballer
04-17-2011, 06:17 PM
CP3 could put up Rose's ppg if he chucked like Rose did, and do so with better efficency. Paul is by far the better defender and rebounder, and his playmaking is light years better. Paul makes players better (made West an allstar, Gray and Belleneli = relevant, Arizia not a scrub, etc.) and Rose makes players worse (Boozer, Deng, Korver, Watson, etc.)
nightprowler10
04-17-2011, 06:27 PM
Seriously, why deny yourselves the opportunity to enjoy watching both players?
This has been the best start to an NBA playoffs in a long long time. Such good team performances from the underdogs. No lop-sided match ups.
Christofire
04-17-2011, 06:29 PM
CP3 could put up Rose's ppg if he chucked like Rose did, and do so with better efficency. Paul is by far the better defender and rebounder, and his playmaking is light years better. Paul makes players better (made West an allstar, Gray and Belleneli = relevant, Arizia not a scrub, etc.) and Rose makes players worse (Boozer, Deng, Korver, Watson, etc.)
Rose doesn't use nearly as many screens as chris paul, and he cannot finish in traffic nearly as well as Rose. Rose has done more in his career than Paul has up to this Point. Rose is better.
jrong
04-17-2011, 06:31 PM
Derrick Rose the guy who's NOT better than (or as good as) LeBron James, Dwyane Wade, Dwight Howard, Kobe Bryant, Chris Paul, Kevin Durant, or Dirk Nowitzki.
Your 2011 MVP, ladies and gentlemen.
nightprowler10
04-17-2011, 06:31 PM
CP3 could put up Rose's ppg if he chucked like Rose did, and do so with better efficency. Paul is by far the better defender and rebounder, and his playmaking is light years better. Paul makes players better (made West an allstar, Gray and Belleneli = relevant, Arizia not a scrub, etc.) and Rose makes players worse (Boozer, Deng, Korver, Watson, etc.)
I was with you until this part. You can think highly of Paul without spouting lies about Rose. Boozer is worse because of injuries and playing softer than he should be. Deng is having one of the best seasons of his career. Korver is doing exactly what we signed him up to do, hit clutch 3's in the fourth. Watson is Rose's backup, he barely ever even plays with Rose!!
Pathetic post.
Bigsmoke
04-18-2011, 05:09 AM
Yep. Amazing how everybody forgets this. Give CP3 Rose's teammates? Jesus christ it would be over.
Who thought the Bulls were going to win 62 games before the season started?
nobody was saying Rose had good teamates until we starting dominating the league.
thomaspynchon
04-18-2011, 05:15 AM
Chris Paul looks smoother out there on the floor. Plus he has the second prettiest pair of eyes in the league after one Jason Kidd.
blacknapalm
04-18-2011, 05:16 AM
i swear this happens every two games. they do different things for their team. if you poll GM's/players you aren't going to find a majority on who the best PG is. it'll be around 20-30% at the most for the top candidate and that's at any given time, i bet. given these no handchecking rules, PG's thrive because they have more at their disposal. chicago needs a scoring threat and rose picks that up for them. NO absolutely needs a facilitator and not 'hero ball' and cp3 fits that mold extremely well. now, you could say rose could do what cp3 does more but at the end of the day, they play to their strengths.
the next break-out game by westbrook, rondo, paul or rose...they'll be the new king for the day on the fabulously over reactionary ISH sandwich
Glide2keva
04-18-2011, 07:42 AM
i swear this happens every two games. they do different things for their team. if you poll GM's/players you aren't going to find a majority on who the best PG is. it'll be around 20-30% at the most for the top candidate and that's at any given time, i bet. given these no handchecking rules, PG's thrive because they have more at their disposal. chicago needs a scoring threat and rose picks that up for them. NO absolutely needs a facilitator and not 'hero ball' and cp3 fits that mold extremely well. now, you could say rose could do what cp3 does more but at the end of the day, they play to their strengths.
the next break-out game by westbrook, rondo, paul or rose...they'll be the new king for the day on the fabulously over reactionary ISH sandwichIf Rose has a great game, the haters make 15 threads trashing his performance.
That's ISH, where the inmates run the asylum.
nathanjizzle
04-18-2011, 07:48 AM
i remember chris paul saying derrick rose was better than him in roses rookie season.
Bigsmoke
04-18-2011, 07:49 AM
all i know is that Derrick Rose IS going to win the MVP and win the championship soon so yall can bring up Chris Paul's FG% and Game 1 on 37 year old Fisher as much as u want.
Glide2keva
04-18-2011, 08:10 AM
all i know is that Derrick Rose IS going to win the MVP and win the championship soon so yall can bring up Chris Paul's FG% and Game 1 on 37 year old Fisher as much as u want.
Preach!
Christofire
04-18-2011, 08:28 AM
CP3 could put up Rose's ppg if he chucked like Rose did, and do so with better efficency. Paul is by far the better defender and rebounder, and his playmaking is light years better. Paul makes players better (made West an allstar, Gray and Belleneli = relevant, Arizia not a scrub, etc.) and Rose makes players worse (Boozer, Deng, Korver, Watson, etc.)
Rose could put up the assissts, ha dhe played as passively on offense as paul, and lol @ defense and Paul being mentioned together...Paul has never been consdered a good defender. he gambles for steal all day. Sure he made west, keep telling yourself that.
drwax26
04-18-2011, 09:16 AM
Its funny how when other Top 5 PGs play well they are compared to Rose. So in reality you are not belittling Rose you are just holding those players up to Rose's high standards and for that I thank you all. Last time I checked rose did have 39pts 6rebs 6asst 1 steal 3blks. Rose > CP3 overall , CP3 > Rose as a PG.
Go Getter
04-18-2011, 09:31 AM
The better player is the better player regardless.
There is no rule that says PGs have to avg 11 assists and under 20 points.
The best PG is the one that wins the most....**** stats.
Bigsmoke
04-18-2011, 09:31 AM
Its funny how when other Top 5 PGs play well they are compared to Rose. So in reality you are not belittling Rose you are just holding those players up to Rose's high standards and for that I thank you all. Last time I checked rose did have 39pts 6rebs 6asst 1 steal 3blks. Rose > CP3 overall , CP3 > Rose as a PG.
if being a better player means to not being a better PG then give me that.
better is better. there is no other meaning for that word.
Christofire
04-18-2011, 09:48 AM
The better player is the better player regardless.
There is no rule that says PGs have to avg 11 assists and under 20 points.
The best PG is the one that wins the most....**** stats.
i have to agree....APG is an overrated stat anyway, Assists should always be as evenly distributed throughout a team as possible. high assists such as 11 is indicative of poor ball movement. So Cp3 may be the better PG if playing PG means under 20pts and 10+asts, but rose is still the better player that you can win more games with because of his ablity to dominate his matchup in ways chris paul cannot. Chris Paul's succes relies very heavily on the pick and Roll,...Derrick rose does not need it.
nosfan773
04-18-2011, 10:29 AM
CP3 could put up Rose's ppg if he chucked like Rose did, and do so with better efficency. Paul is by far the better defender and rebounder, and his playmaking is light years better. Paul makes players better (made West an allstar, Gray and Belleneli = relevant, Arizia not a scrub, etc.) and Rose makes players worse (Boozer, Deng, Korver, Watson, etc.)
:applause:
yobore
04-18-2011, 10:34 AM
i remember chris paul saying derrick rose was better than him in roses rookie season.
that would be the season CP smashed his own PER record for PG's with a 30. I'm sure he wasn't being polite.
rodman91
04-18-2011, 10:36 AM
They both had great games... they are both great players.. they are not your boyfriends.
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KingBeasley08
04-18-2011, 10:57 AM
CP3 :bowdown: :bowdown:
Clocian-IGN
04-18-2011, 11:02 AM
why didn't he do this during the season? cp3 just a couple of games ago had 0 points O.o. i'll look for him to come back to today's cp3 in the next game assuming lakers defense and bigs show up....but then again he's still being guarded by fish so maybe he'll still go off :oldlol:
KingBeasley08
04-18-2011, 11:12 AM
why didn't he do this during the season? cp3 just a couple of games ago had 0 points O.o. i'll look for him to come back to today's cp3 in the next game assuming lakers defense and bigs show up....but then again he's still being guarded by fish so maybe he'll still go off :oldlol:
its playoff time bro
cp3 averages over 20 pts and 10 assists per game in the playoffs. lakers will win but pauls not gonna go out without a fight
Christofire
04-18-2011, 12:18 PM
its playoff time bro
cp3 averages over 20 pts and 10 assists per game in the playoffs. lakers will win but pauls not gonna go out without a fight
He's gonna go out flopping!!!
Random_Guy
06-26-2014, 06:25 AM
true true
Yankstar
06-26-2014, 06:47 AM
First MVP not to make the hall of fame. I am calling it. Stick a fork into him he is done as an all star calibre player... :cry:
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