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Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 01:58 AM
30 point games in playoffs

1. Michael Jordan – 109
2. Kobe Bryant – 80
3. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar – 75
4. Jerry West – 74
5. Elgin Baylor - 60

Playoff Points

1. Michael Jordan - 5987
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 5762
3. Shaquille O'Neal - 5248
4. Kobe Bryant - 5127
5. Karl Malone - 4761

alenleomessi
04-24-2011, 02:02 AM
no he wont catch him

Holy Random
04-24-2011, 02:02 AM
God you are useless, reported.

zay_24
04-24-2011, 02:03 AM
Kobe "Da Gawd" Bryant.

Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 02:07 AM
4/5 are lakers

Mr. I'm So Rad
04-24-2011, 02:08 AM
God you are useless, reported.

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Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 02:10 AM
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/cc185/Strikeninja95/iygo.gif

:applause: :roll:

Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 02:16 AM
Playoff Points
1. Michael Jordan 5987
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5762
3. Shaquille O'Neal 5248
4. Kobe Bryant 5127

OmniStrife
04-24-2011, 02:18 AM
Playoff Points
1. Michael Jordan 5987
2. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar 5762
3. Shaquille O'Neal 5248
4. Kobe Bryant 5127

Add that to your 1st post as well.

YouCallILose
04-24-2011, 02:19 AM
mind listing total games played op?

Mr. I'm So Rad
04-24-2011, 02:23 AM
Kobe is also the only player in NBA history to score at least 600 points in the postseason for three consecutive years :applause:

Dave3
04-24-2011, 02:28 AM
Kobe is also the only player in NBA history to score at least 600 points in the postseason for three consecutive years :applause:
That's a stat that's so dependent on circumstance more than anything. Having multiple series go 6 and 7 games helps with that. Still impressive, but even more selective than the "only player to average a combination of 23.56 points, 8.91 rebounds, and 6.75 assists for a January" crap ESPN does.

TheGreatDeraj
04-24-2011, 02:28 AM
Wilt had less than 60 thirty point playoff games?

Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 02:32 AM
Wilt had less than 60 thirty point playoff games?

yeah, but they had less games, and less rounds in the playoffs back then

Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 02:34 AM
Kobes ranks in playoffs

* 3-point field goals made

OldSchoolBBall
04-24-2011, 02:37 AM
[QUOTE=Colby Brian]30 point games in playoffs

1. Michael Jordan

Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 02:39 AM
I added some info. Not really so close when you look at it that way.

nobodies closer than kobe

OldSchoolBBall
04-24-2011, 02:41 AM
Kobe is also the only player in NBA history to score at least 600 points in the postseason for three consecutive years :applause:

That's because he can't close out garbage teams in the postseason (Thunder, Rockets etc.) and has played a ton of games each postseason. The Lakers have played 21, 23, and 23 games the last 3 playoffs respectively, significantly more than MJ's Bulls. The only two postseasons Jordan's Bulls played more than 19 games, he scored 759 and 680 points.

Mr. I'm So Rad
04-24-2011, 02:45 AM
That's because he can't close out garbage teams in the postseason (Thunder, Rockets etc.) and has played a ton of games each postseason. The Lakers have played 21, 23, and 23 games the last 3 playoffs respectively, significantly more than MJ's Bulls. The only two postseasons Jordan's Bulls played more than 19 games, he scored 759 and 680 points.

Dude no need to get butthurt I was just stating a fact :oldlol:

We all know Jordan > Kobe no need to try and discredit Kobe's accomplishments

Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 02:45 AM
That's because he can't close out garbage teams in the postseason (Thunder, Rockets etc.) and has played a ton of games each postseason. The Lakers have played 21, 23, and 23 games the last 3 playoffs respectively, significantly more than MJ's Bulls. The only two postseasons Jordan's Bulls played more than 19 games, he scored 759 and 680 points.

dont hate its an nba record

MJ has the most playoff points cause he has attempted the most shots in playoff history :confusedshrug:

you see what i did there

Mr. I'm So Rad
04-24-2011, 02:48 AM
dont hate its an nba record

MJ has the most playoff points cause he has attempted the most shots in playoff history :confusedshrug:

you see what i did there

He would have even more points if he didn't get swept in his early years

See what I did there too?

:oldlol: But we're not gonna go that route because it's not an MJ vs. Kobe thread it's just a thread appreciating great post season players :cheers:

Yao Ming's Foot
04-24-2011, 02:54 AM
Jordan stans really wish their hero didn't quit on his team in the middle of his career and retired for the 2nd time at the thought of playing without the great Scottie Pippen.

So sad.

TheGreatDeraj
04-24-2011, 02:55 AM
I added some info. Not really so close when you look at it that way.

This stat is about total 30 point games, not about the context of them.

If we are going to talk about context you need to add other information besides that...such as: how many of Kobe's game as a starter were played along side Shaq? Obviously it's going to take more games to get 30 points when you have a huge 7'1 advantage inside capable of scoring 40 points and dominating the paint every night in the playoffs.



yeah, but they had less games, and less rounds in the playoffs back then

Interesting, I figured he would be in the top 5 for sure before I read this thread. Any chance you know exactly how many Wilt had?

Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 03:09 AM
This stat is about total 30 point games, not about the context of them.

If we are going to talk about context you need to add other information besides that...such as: how many of Kobe's game as a starter were played along side Shaq? Obviously it's going to take more games to get 30 points when you have a huge 7'1 advantage inside capable of scoring 40 points and dominating the paint every night in the playoffs.




Interesting, I figured he would be in the top 5 for sure before I read this thread. Any chance you know exactly how many Wilt had?

no i dont, i tried googling it but cant find how many he has

G-Funk
04-24-2011, 03:14 AM
That's because he can't close out garbage teams in the postseason (Thunder, Rockets etc.) and has played a ton of games each postseason. The Lakers have played 21, 23, and 23 games the last 3 playoffs respectively, significantly more than MJ's Bulls. The only two postseasons Jordan's Bulls played more than 19 games, he scored 759 and 680 points.
dude, ur insecurities are showing again :facepalm

Colby Brian
04-24-2011, 03:22 AM
This stat is about total 30 point games, not about the context of them.

If we are going to talk about context you need to add other information besides that...such as: how many of Kobe's game as a starter were played along side Shaq? Obviously it's going to take more games to get 30 points when you have a huge 7'1 advantage inside capable of scoring 40 points and dominating the paint every night in the playoffs.




Interesting, I figured he would be in the top 5 for sure before I read this thread. Any chance you know exactly how many Wilt had?

kobe has 48 30 point games in the playoffs without shaq in 82 games (2006-11 playoffs), which is 59% (48/82)
jordan has 109 30 points game out of 179 total game, which is 60%

kobe without shaq - 59% of his playoff games are 30+
jordan 60%

SavageMode
04-24-2011, 03:42 AM
Shaq with more points than Kobe in the playoffs :roll: :roll:

kidachi
04-24-2011, 03:50 AM
I think Kobe can catch MJ..



there someone said it... yay.. you can sleep now

Ruh-Roh
04-24-2011, 03:52 AM
Every 1st round MJ ever played in was a best of 5.

They didn't extend it to best of 7 that until 2003.

bingo123
04-24-2011, 04:42 AM
[QUOTE=Colby Brian]Kobes ranks in playoffs

* 3-point field goals made

TheCorporation
04-24-2011, 05:02 AM
[QUOTE=Colby Brian]Kobes ranks in playoffs

* 3-point field goals made

24r2
04-24-2011, 05:46 AM
thats because he WINS,

OldSchoolBBall
04-24-2011, 11:28 AM
kobe has 48 30 point games in the playoffs without shaq in 82 games (2006-11 playoffs), which is 59% (48/82)
jordan has 109 30 points game out of 179 total game, which is 60%

kobe without shaq - 59% of his playoff games are 30+
jordan 60%

We're gonna act like Kobe had no chance to score 30+ with Shaq when he was taking 20-25 FGA/gm? Please. Maybe if he wasn't busy shooting 43% in the playoffs every year...

32jazz
04-24-2011, 11:39 AM
I added some info. Not really so close when you look at it that way.
:facepalm

And MJ has taken over 400 or 500 hundred more shots than Kobe in essentially the same number of playoff games.( And about 300 more free throw attempts than Kobe.)

So it's not even close & obvious that MJ was the biggest ballhog of the two.

Kobe has never seriously nor on a consistent basis approached MJ's level of ballhogging.

And if Kobe eventually catches MJ's overall point total (regular season & playoffs barring injuries) he will do it in far more games than MJ it's true ,but essentially the same number of FGA's as that Ballhogging shoe salsman MJ.

Allstar24
04-24-2011, 11:46 AM
:facepalm

And MJ has taken over 400 or 500 hundred more shots than Kobe in essentially the same number of playoff games.( And about 300 more free throw attempts than Kobe.)

So it's not even close & obvious that MJ was the biggest ballhog of the two.

Kobe has never seriously nor on a consistent basis approached MJ's level of ballhogging.

And if Kobe eventually catches MJ's overall point total (regular season & playoffs barring injuries) he will do it in far more games than MJ it's true ,but essentially the same number of FGA's as that Ballhogging shoe salsman MJ.
Loki = OWNED.

OldSchoolBBall
04-24-2011, 11:48 AM
Stay trolling, 32jazz. :oldlol:

Another factor to consider is how much Kobe has "saved himself" for the playoffs the last few seasons. We've been hearing this from various commentators since 2009 at the very least. A lot easier to play well in the postseason when you're not doing as much over the course of an 82 game regular season. You have a lot more gas left in the tank.

There's a reason you never heard about MJ "saving himself" for the playoffs.

Mr. Incredible
04-24-2011, 11:49 AM
Op needs to hop off Kobe's ish. :facepalm

Your boy will never ever be close to Jordan. Face the facts.

32jazz
04-24-2011, 11:50 AM
We're gonna act like Kobe had no chance to score 30+ with Shaq when he was taking 20-25 FGA/gm? Please. Maybe if he wasn't busy shooting 43% in the playoffs every year...

Were gonna act like Kobe has consistently jacked up as many shots as MJ?:rolleyes:

Losers like you can continually obssess over Kobe's FG% ,but fact is he will have essentially in more games the same number of FGA's as MJ when he surpasses him(barring injuries).

Allstar24
04-24-2011, 11:56 AM
Another factor to consider is how much Kobe has "saved himself" for the playoffs the last few seasons. We've been hearing this from various commentators since 2009 at the very least. A lot easier to play well in the postseason when you're not doing as much over the course of an 82 game regular season. You have a lot more gas left in the tank.

There's a reason you never heard about MJ "saving himself" for the playoffs.
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

This guy is so desperate, he'll grasp at anything now.

Kobe in the regular season since 2009:

'09 season: 27ppg/5apg/5rpg (82 games, 36 mpg)
'10 season: 27ppg/5apg/5rpg (73 games, 39 mgp)
'11 season: 25ppg/5apg/5rpg (82 games, 34 mpg)

How is that saving himself for the playoffs? He's been putting up his usual numbers, only a drop in his point total this year due to the obvious decrease in minutes. Give it up already.

OldSchoolBBall
04-24-2011, 11:58 AM
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

This guy is so desperate, he'll grasp at anything now.

Kobe in the regular season since 2009:

'09 season: 27ppg/5apg/5rpg (82 games, 36 mpg)
'10 season: 27ppg/5apg/5rpg (73 games, 39 mgp)
'11 season: 25ppg/5apg/5rpg (82 games, 34 mpg)

How is that saving himself for the playoffs? He's been putting up his usual numbers, only a drop in his point total this year due to the obvious decrease in minutes. Give it up already.


Yeah, I guess the commentaries from numerous analysts as well as numerous LAKER FANS THEMSELVES over the last few years are all incorrect. Sure. :oldlol:

Allstar24
04-24-2011, 12:04 PM
^Riiight...because "commentaries" are more telling than actual FACTS. Show me which part of his numbers, minutes or games played per season indicates he was saving himself for the playoffs? If there's one thing I know about him after watching him for 15 years, its that he never takes a night off. The guy plays hard every time he steps on the court, sometimes a little too hard to the detriment of the team but that is who he is and also what makes him a legend. Try again.

32jazz
04-24-2011, 12:20 PM
Stay trolling, 32jazz. :oldlol:

Another factor to consider is how much Kobe has "saved himself" for the playoffs the last few seasons. We've been hearing this from various commentators since 2009 at the very least. A lot easier to play well in the postseason when you're not doing as much over the course of an 82 game regular season. You have a lot more gas left in the tank.

There's a reason you never heard about MJ "saving himself" for the playoffs.

:rolleyes:

B**tch slapping a clown like you with facts is called "trolling' now?


1)Despite this nonsense of Kobe 'saving himself' in the regular season he will still catch MJ scoring (barring injuries)in the regular season with essentially the same nuumber of FGA's & way fewer free throws.

2)Barring injuries Kobe will catch MJ scoring in the playoffs in more games ,but essentially the same number of FGA's & fewer free throws.


Who cares what analysts 'assume' about Kobe's play?

Check Kobe's minutes & games played & tell me how the hell he "saves himself' despite the nagging injuries.

Despite what you believe a few guys on the Net & what some analysts say about Kobe's game is meaningless.

Kobe has earned the right to take games of down the stretch, yet he doesn't. Kobe refuses to sit despite nagging injuries & the wishes of Phil Jackson.

32jazz
04-24-2011, 12:38 PM
^Riiight...because "commentaries" are more telling than actual FACTS. Show me which part of his numbers, minutes or games played per season indicates he was saving himself for the playoffs? If there's one thing I know about him after watching him for 15 years, its that he never takes a night off. The guy plays hard every time he steps on the court, sometimes a little too hard to the detriment of the team but that is who he is and also what makes him a legend. Try again.

Great post

Too add to your earlier post about the FACT that Kobe hasn't played less than 35 minutes per game ,but once in the past 6 seasons(over 40mpg twice) & only missed 14 games over that short period.:applause:


This despite the mileage (people like to talk about) & the nagging injuries Kobe keeps going. Hell I'm a Laker fan & I even take the guy for granted at times despite the pain & minutes he endures.


Funny how Kobe haters/ MJ worshippers get off track once you mention the facts:

1) Kobe has played the same number of playoiff games as MJ ,but taken 500 fewer FGA's & nearly 300 less free throws. Kobe will essentially surpass MJ with the same number of FGA's & less free throws (barring injury).

2) Same goes for the regular season. MJ has taken around 4000 more shots than Kobe in essentially the same number of games :facepalm . Kobe (barring injury) will surpass him essentially with the same number of FGA's & wayyyyy fewer free throws.

jlauber
04-24-2011, 01:51 PM
Wilt had less than 60 thirty point playoff games?

I have never taken the time to research Wilt's 30+ point playoff games. He does rank 4th in 40+ games, with 13, and 2nd in 50+ point games, with four. His scoring dropped in the post-season for a variety of reasons. One, most knowledgeable observers point out that Wilt had two halves to his career (I actually have it with THREE different stages...his "scoring" seasons, his "balanced" seasons, and his "post-injury" seasons.) In the first half of his career, his first seven seasons, he averaged 40 ppg...combined. In the second half of his career, he averaged about 20 ppg.

However, he "only" played in six post-seasons, in his first seven years. His 62-63 roster, arguably the worst in NBA history, was so bad that his team went 31-49 (although they only had a -2.1 differential, and lost 35 games by single digits.) So, unlike MJ's '86 Bulls, which went 30-52, Wilt's 62-63 Warriors did not make the playoffs. And that is significant. In that 62-63 season, Wilt averaged 45 ppg on 53% shooting. He even averaged 38 ppg against Russell in nine H2H games.

Still, in those six post-seasons, he averaged 33 ppg, with entire post-seasons of 37 ppg and 35 ppg (and three playoff series of 39, 38 and 38 ppg.) In any case, Wilt only played 52 of his 160 post-season games, in his "scoring" seasons.

In the second half of his career, Wilt dramatically cut back his shooting...mainly because he had quality teammates. Here again, there were a variety of reasons, but there were instances where his COACH made the decision to not get Wilt the ball. He still had some explosive games, even in year's when he was only shooting 13-16 FGAs per game, though. He had a 41 point game, on 19-30 shooting, as well as a 37 point game, on 16-24 shooting, against the Royals in the '67 playoffs. He had a 33 point game against Russell in the '68 ECF's. He had a 45-27 game, on 20-27 shooting, and on ONE leg, in the '70 Finals.

The other major factor in Wilt's reduced scoring, was the fact that he faced a HOF center in about two-thirds of his 160 post-season games. He went H2H with Thurmond in 17 games; Reed in 18; Bellamy in six; Lucas (yes he played center later in his career) in 14; Kareem in 11; and Russell in 49. Think about that...he faced Russell, and the Celtic Dynasty in nearly ONE-THIRD of his playoff games. Still, he had 20 games of 30+ points against Russell, including five of 40+, and even one of 50 (along with 35 rebounds BTW.)

And, for those that disparage Wilt based on his reduced scoring in the post-season, he played in 29 post-season series, and was outscored in very few. I could only find ONE in which he was outshot, and even in that one, he only missed 20 shots total, while his opponent, Kareem, missed 107. And, he was NEVER outrebounded in ANY of those 29 series. A case could be made that Wilt was never outplayed in any of them, as well. Furthermore, there were MANY in which he just CRUSHED his opposing centers.

Disaprine
04-24-2011, 01:53 PM
in before butthurt haters, oh wait :roll:

Jimmy2k8
04-24-2011, 02:04 PM
[QUOTE=Colby Brian]30 point games in playoffs

1. Michael Jordan

jlauber
04-24-2011, 02:06 PM
Highlighted are players that played for the Lakers.

As for most playoffs points all time...Kobe will pass Shaq. Not too sure about Kareem or Michael.

Kobe is about three post-seasons away from becoming the all-time leading scorer. Barring injury, he is a lock.

Blue_Dog45
04-24-2011, 03:43 PM
Damn I know the Laker forum has been sort of dead lately, but who invited all you people? :oldlol: JK

SoCalMike
04-24-2011, 09:43 PM
Damn I know the Laker forum has been sort of dead lately, but who invited all you people? :oldlol: JK

this was likely moved from the main forum... sometimes insidehoops will do that...



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