Russell Westbrook shot-jacks in Game 4 Thunder loss to Nuggets

[konex]

Wow, this guy is believing his own hype a bit too much :roll:

[ashbelly]

:facepalm Why did he rush that last 3 point shot? where was durant ?

[kaiiu]

exactly I think he actually BELIEVES the Thunder is his team:oldlol:

29 shots vs KDs 18:facepalm

[wally_world]

He has alot of maturing to go through. Its plays like this that seperates him from the first-tier PGs.

[Kiddlovesnets]

lol this guy can have moment like this, he needs to learn how to settle down and be a playmaker when he aint making his own shots.

[ashbelly]

they were arguing earlier on before. westbrick and durant that is. :oldlol:

[entropy35]

The last play looked like a foul though. But yeah, some of the shots in crunch time, especially the 3's , should have been KD's.

[Droid101]

The coming Durant/Westbrook clash is going to cost OKC this playoffs, mark my words.

[MayCeltics]

Dumbass

[imlmf]

I was going to make a similar thread
I have to admit I didn't watch the game but looking at play-by-play

Why the hell does he chuck and miss 3 key 3pt and didn't let durant take them, durant was 5-6 for the night and way better 3pt shooter then himself. selfish at its best

I'm disappointed in what he showed tonight, seems like he thinks he's bigger than the team

[kaiiu]

CWEBB CALLIN WEST BRICK OUT :oldlol:

[Notorious D.M.C]

Wow, this guy is believing his own hype a bit too much :roll:

I hope guys that been saying westbrook is better than rose watched this game. If you look at Westbrooks stats you think he had a great game but he makes some of the worst decisions. And Yes Durant is the best player on Thunder not Westbrook.

[PP34Deuce]

2 great players that are fighting for each other.

in BOS games no matter how hot PP is from 3, he always looks to get it to Ray.

Westbrook costed them this game playing hero

[Notorious D.M.C]

The coming Durant/Westbrook clash is going to cost OKC this playoffs, mark my words.

well that's not much of a prediction. That's just saying they won't win it all.

[TaLvsCuaL]

STFU ALL!!! He is cold blooded. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Notorious D.M.C]

:facepalm Why did he rush that last 3 point shot? where was durant ?

Where are those assholes calling Westbrook better than Rose. And saying westbrook is better than Durant. I'm glad people can finally watch OKC now and stop making judgements based on stats.

[OKCThunderUP]

Where are those assholes calling Westbrook better than Rose. And saying westbrook is better than Durant. I'm glad people can finally watch OKC now and stop making judgements based on stats.

+1

[PP34Deuce]

In past threads I told my opinion on how I think Thunder and Heat are not going to have their time this finals... End of game execution is still me first.....

Westbrook has to mature before I hand them the finals.....

[50inchvertical]

Where are those assholes calling Westbrook better than Rose. And saying westbrook is better than Durant. I'm glad people can finally watch OKC now and stop making judgements based on stats.
Rose is shooting 35% for his series though, so Russ's 40%FG night is still better.

[Silverbullit]

Where are those assholes calling Westbrook better than Rose. And saying westbrook is better than Durant. I'm glad people can finally watch OKC now and stop making judgements based on stats.


Why do you call names? Different opinion = asshole? Poor...

[TaLvsCuaL]

Westbrook needs to learn to calm down, when it gets there will be an unstoppable player. But it is true that many times his basketball IQ seems to be ridiculously bad.

[OKCThunderUP]

The coming Durant/Westbrook clash is going to cost OKC this playoffs, mark my words.

No it won't. That shit will get ironed out before they even touch down back in OKC tonight.

[Hulk Hogan]

30 shots... :roll: :roll: :roll:

[wally_world]

The last shot wasnt what im mad about.

He felt he got fouled in the 3min+ mark (when he just took an ill-advised shot), complained to the refs and didnt get back to D. Lawson then got the ball drawing another defender kicking out to Gallo for an open 3.

Then the 3pt airball with 8sec left was just :facepalm

GET DURANT THE DAMN BALL

I still love the Thunders tho, and im glad the Nuggets pull out a win because they deserve it.

[ReturnofJPR]

He did look like a clown tonight disrespecting the game at every turn in the 4th quarter.

[DuMa]

dumb Russ. ONLY Kobe can get 30 on 30 shots. recognize

[imdaman99]

oh no its the end of the world, the thunder did not sweep. they are no longer title contenders. dumbass armchair monday morning quarterbacks. this is gonna be a learning experience for westbrook, and only the celtics swept and only cuz they got help from the refs.

[wally_world]

No it won't. That shit will get ironed out before they even touch down back in OKC tonight.


This.

Westbrook knows he screwed up, and he knows its going to take Durant and the rest of the team if they wanna win the chip. Thunders will close this out in 5.

[Jotaro Durant]

Get rid of Scott Brooks.

Westbrook+Perk for Dwight and start Harden Brooks you dumb ****. :banana:

[YouCallILose]

In past threads I told my opinion on how I think Thunder and Heat are not going to have their time this finals... End of game execution is still me first.....

Westbrook has to mature before I hand them the finals.....


Durant is clutch as hell and he has won/tied several games this season under 5 seconds left. Westbrook just went full retard

[PP34Deuce]

Westbrook needs to learn to calm down, when it gets there will be an unstoppable player. But it is true that many times his basketball IQ seems to be ridiculously bad.


We used to say the same things about young Gilbert Arenas and Steve Francis...

Is westbrook that diff from those guys? faster, but both guys wre great athletes and me first.

[talkingconch]

lmao Westbrook is not better than Rose, not sure what gaptooth said that.

But would have liked it better with the ball in durant's hands

[wally_world]

Im glad this happened in the first round tho. Thunders have plenty of time to settle all these issues before we reach the finals (oh yeah i said it)

[OKCThunderUP]

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6629/kobes.gif

god I wish someone would ban you already. You're worse than PurpleChuck and ashbelly.

[kaiiu]

http://img198.imageshack.us/img198/6629/kobes.gif
durant is clutch brah. You would never know doe because he never really does it on national tv:lol
but go watch some KD highlights u will be surprised

[imdaman99]

lol at overreactions. now they wanna trade westbrook and consider him me-first. he has always deferred to durant, what makes you think he is trying to go kobe mode (on shaq) against durant? thunder in 5.

[whoartthou]

Was westbrook for real??

I swear he took a page out of kobes handbook!

Only kobe gets away with chucking westbrook!

[Clocian-IGN]

Rose is shooting 35% for his series though, so Russ's 40%FG night is still better.

yup, indiana's whole team is throwing everything they got at rose. not like he doesn't have durant or guys that can hit open shots other than deng :rolleyes:. and yup, guys can't have off nights even when playing with a sprained ankle. and yup the guy can't get a break for winning the 3 games we've won so far :violin:

in other words stfu please :cheers:

[imdaman99]

russ took them shots, cuz they were most likely gonna double durant. yeah he got that open look for 3 when they were down 5, not 3. if its a 3 point lead its likely they double durant coming off that screen. but westbrook needs to learn to trust harden too. he can hit those, especially if hes open.

[TaLvsCuaL]

We used to say the same things about young Gilbert Arenas and Steve Francis...

Is westbrook that diff from those guys? faster, but both guys wre great athletes and me first.
I said he needs to change, I did not say he's going to do it.

[talkingconch]

Durant is a ****ing beast. Kid's clutch I'll say that

[50inchvertical]

yup, indiana's whole team is throwing everything they got at rose. not like he doesn't have durant or guys that can hit open shots other than deng :rolleyes:. and yup, guys can't have off nights even when playing with a sprained ankle. and yup the guy can't get a break for winning the 3 games we've won so far :violin:

in other words stfu please :cheers:
All that applies to this thread too so you can STFU. Korver doesn't make open shots? Hasn't he been the 1 hitting big shots in the 4th? Didn't Deng spark the run in the game 3 win? He was shooting terrible before he turned his ankle too, he just had 49ftas in the first 3 games

[FindingTim]

It tonight was an accurate portrayal of who/what Westbrook really is, OKC should consider trading him for a player that better compliments Kevin Durant; someone more pass-friendly who can drain 3's- a Stephen Curry type skillset.

Westbrook really is a great talent though, so they need to get a good return, but if I am GM, get him out.

[O_City_Thunder]

Westbrook is one of the most selfish players in the NBA. His dumb ass will probably come out next game and not take a shot just to prove a point or some shit.

[icewill36]

calm down. he made some bad decisions this game but you can best it wont happen again next game.

[wally_world]

This will just be an over-reaction thread.

Dont get me wrong, im overreacting too, but i think the Thunders know what to do about the situation.

[FourthTenor]

Westbrook definitely seems like a punk. But because he's a flashy, athletic scorer he's inevitably overrated by all the major media outlets at the moment, and by extension most general managers around the league. You could probably net a fortune for him in a trade. OKC might be wise to look into that in the offseason. He seems like a Carmelo type. Sure, he's flashy, so the media will make him a star, but he really isn't someone who makes you any better than any regular gritty role player.

[Clocian-IGN]

All that applies to this thread too so you can STFU. Korver doesn't make open shots? Hasn't he been the 1 hitting big shots in the 4th? Didn't Deng spark the run in the game 3 win? He was shooting terrible before he turned his ankle too, he just had 49ftas in the first 3 games

i didn't know korver played the whole game :facepalm. I didn't know rose didn't make clutch plays like...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP1LwKzowkM

or

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KaM7G9SWces (at the end)

haters gonna hate.

[MayCeltics]

Westbrook definitely seems like a punk. But because he's a flashy, athletic scorer he's inevitably overrated by all the major media outlets at the moment, and by extension most general managers around the league. You could probably net a fortune for him in a trade. OKC might be wise to look into that in the offseason. He seems like a Carmelo type. Sure, he's flashy, so the media will make him a star, but he really isn't someone who makes you any better than any regular gritty role player.


Westbrook probably think Durant overshadows him. Like its a some sort of competition.

[Ruh-Roh]

Durant is clutch as hell and he has won/tied several games this season under 5 seconds left. Westbrook just went full retard

I thought Westbrook >>>>> Rose in your book?

[imdaman99]

Westbrook is one of the most selfish players in the NBA. His dumb ass will probably come out next game and not take a shot just to prove a point or some shit.
^^^^ this dude is as fair-weather as it comes :lol

reps the thunder but hates their 2nd best player. so westbrook apparently cost the thunder a chance at winning it all tonight. dude has been non-stop crying since the loss :oldlol:

[imdaman99]

as a Knick fan, i would love for a pg like that on my team. toney douglas and landry fields and take your pick of anyone else other than my big 2. i wonder who would get better in that trade.

[50inchvertical]

I thought Westbrook >>>>> Rose in your book?
Westbrook's 1 terrible fg% game that every1 is overreacting to is better than Rose's for the series.

[OKCThunderUP]

Westbrook definitely seems like a punk. But because he's a flashy, athletic scorer he's inevitably overrated by all the major media outlets at the moment, and by extension most general managers around the league. You could probably net a fortune for him in a trade. OKC might be wise to look into that in the offseason. He seems like a Carmelo type. Sure, he's flashy, so the media will make him a star, but he really isn't someone who makes you any better than any regular gritty role player.

You're way off-base here. Westbrook is far more than just a role-player.

[O_City_Thunder]

^^^^ this dude is as fair-weather as it comes :lol

reps the thunder but hates their 2nd best player. so westbrook apparently cost the thunder a chance at winning it all tonight. dude has been non-stop crying since the loss :oldlol:
And I've always disliked Westbrook selfish ass

[imdaman99]

And I've always disliked Westbrook selfish ass
tonight he was selfish. next game he might drop 12 assists.
so you believe the thunder would be better off without him? details please.

[FourthTenor]

You're way off-base here. Westbrook is far more than just a role-player.


Far more than just a role player? Dude just about everyone in the league other than guys like James, Howard, Paul, Wade, Nowitzki, Durant, Griffin, and a few others are role players.

Guys like Westbrook, Stoudamire, Carmelo, Rudy Gay etc. are made out to be "stars" simply because they are the designated scorers and that gets them more ESPN facetime than the guys who are designated rebounders or ballmovers/shooters, or defenders etc. but the reason a team like OKC or Memphis is successful is because the whole TEAM is good and fits well together, even tho most people want to pigeon-hole every good team into a "Batman-Robin-role players" formula. That's just media cliches and lazy analysis.

Westbrook aint that special. He's good, but he could be replaced by a lot of guys around the league without any drop off in the Thunders overall performance. They might be better off with a guy like Andre Miller running the point.

[Rhinox]

Westbrook's 1 terrible fg% game that every1 is overreacting to is better than Rose's for the series.

Except Rose hasn't costed his team any games.

[Clocian-IGN]

Westbrook's 1 terrible fg% game that every1 is overreacting to is better than Rose's for the series.

yup

GM1 39/6/6 and the WIN
GM2 36/8/7 and the WIN
GM3 21 pts, game winning shot and of course the WIN

Yup, he's been horrible in the playoffs :rolleyes:

just be glad westbrook and durant got each other :oldlol:. rose double, tripple team, trapped all game long and still find ways to get it done as the # 1 option. :pimp:

[imdaman99]

Except Rose hasn't costed his team any games.
true, 6-22 usually helps the team win.

[talkingconch]

I wish I could go back to view my posts.

Does anyone have a ****ing idea when I get to view my OWN posts through my profile?

[FourthTenor]

yup

GM1 39/6/6 and the WIN
GM2 36/8/7 and the WIN
GM3 21 pts, game winning shot and of course the WIN

Yup, he's been horrible in the playoffs :rolleyes:

just be glad westbrook and durant got each other :oldlol:. rose double, tripple team, trapped all game long and still find ways to get it done as the # 1 option. :pimp:

*crediting individual player with a team win*
*using the ridiculous term "#1 option*


We have a ignorant-fan-alert in progress.

[Rhinox]

true, 6-22 usually helps the team win.

Spoken like someone who has never watched a bulls game.


Boxscore queen

[Clocian-IGN]

true, 6-22 usually helps the team win.

didn't know players couldnt have bad shooting nights.....especially when you know, you sprain your ankle :roll:

[Rhinox]

*crediting individual player with a team win*
*using the ridiculous term "#1 option*


We have a ignorant-fan-alert in progress.
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm

[imdaman99]

Spoken like someone who has never watched a bulls game.


Boxscore queen
aww name calling. got no real argument to reply to that do you? i wonder what his 3 pt shooting was in the game. but dont worry he single handedly beat a crappy pacers team thrice. because noah and deng and korver stand alone in the corner on offense and defense and rose wins the game alone. woooot mvp 10-40... my hero!!!!!!!!!!!! oh look 20 seconds left, pacers playing great defense again by giving me a layup for the lead. im so damn good turned that 3-17 into a clutch 4-18. where my mvp at son!!!!!!!!!!

[Clocian-IGN]

aww name calling. got no real argument to reply to that do you? i wonder what his 3 pt shooting was in the game. but dont worry he single handedly beat a crappy pacers team thrice. because noah and deng and korver stand alone in the corner on offense and defense and rose wins the game alone. woooot mvp 10-40... my hero!!!!!!!!!!!! oh look 20 seconds left, pacers playing great defense again by giving me a layup for the lead. im so damn good turned that 3-17 into a clutch 4-18. where my mvp at son!!!!!!!!!!

yup, knicks chillin on their couches watching us play after being swept :bowdown:

[imdaman99]

didn't know players couldnt have bad shooting nights.....especially when you know, you sprain your ankle :roll:
so let me guess, if i got an eye poked out during a game, i should continue shooting. so if i broke a leg, i need to keep shooting because apparently my whole team is shooting worse %s than i am, and thats the only way we can win. gotcha.

[imdaman99]

yup, knicks chillin on their couches watching us play after being swept :bowdown:
1st out hurts less than losing in the 2nd or 3rd round like you guys will.
but dont worry, rose will have that fancy mvp trophy.

[O_City_Thunder]

tonight he was selfish. next game he might drop 12 assists.
so you believe the thunder would be better off without him? details please.
I'm sure you have watched enough Thunder games to know that he plays this way pretty much all the time. Like he has to get his shine too or he feels left out. I don't think the Thunder would better off without him, it's just frustrating watching this guy make the same bonehead mistakes over and over. I'm a Thunder fan, but I'm not to fond of Westbrook.

[Clocian-IGN]

so let me guess, if i got an eye poked out during a game, i should continue shooting. so if i broke a leg, i need to keep shooting because apparently my whole team is shooting worse %s than i am, and thats the only way we can win. gotcha.

yup, it's not like thibs himself always says that we need rose's shooting and him being aggressive...but what would he know right :oldlol:

[Rhinox]

aww name calling. got no real argument to reply to that do you? i wonder what his 3 pt shooting was in the game. but dont worry he single handedly beat a crappy pacers team thrice. because noah and deng and korver stand alone in the corner on offense and defense and rose wins the game alone. woooot mvp 10-40... my hero!!!!!!!!!!!! oh look 20 seconds left, pacers playing great defense again by giving me a layup for the lead. im so damn good turned that 3-17 into a clutch 4-18. where my mvp at son!!!!!!!!!!

I'M SO OFFENDED YOU'RE TRASHING DERRICK ROSE I'M USING ALL CAPS AND GONNA END USING A TON OF EXCLAMATION POINTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[imdaman99]

Far more than just a role player? Dude just about everyone in the league other than guys like James, Howard, Paul, Wade, Nowitzki, Durant, Griffin, and a few others are role players.

Guys like Westbrook, Stoudamire, Carmelo, Rudy Gay etc. are made out to be "stars" simply because they are the designated scorers and that gets them more ESPN facetime than the guys who are designated rebounders or ballmovers/shooters, or defenders etc. but the reason a team like OKC or Memphis is successful is because the whole TEAM is good and fits well together, even tho most people want to pigeon-hole every good team into a "Batman-Robin-role players" formula. That's just media cliches and lazy analysis.

Westbrook aint that special. He's good, but he could be replaced by a lot of guys around the league without any drop off in the Thunders overall performance. They might be better off with a guy like Andre Miller running the point.
curious, you left out a notable name or 2. kobe and rose. what are their roles?

and i seriously doubt andre miller would do the same for the thunder as westbrook can. westbrook can penetrate on anyone (no homo). obviously that has some detriments, but its mostly a positive for the thunder as no other thunder can break down the defense.

[imdaman99]

I'm sure you have watched enough Thunder games to know that he plays this way pretty much all the time. Like he has to get his shine too or he feels left out. I don't think the Thunder would better off without him, it's just frustrating watching this guy make the same bonehead mistakes over and over. I'm a Thunder fan, but I'm not to fond of Westbrook.
dude, im sure you realize westbrook is an important piece on the team. when hes going good they are almost damn unbeatable. hes too good to be an x-factor. he makes dumb mistakes, but this loss is a learning experience. all they gotta do is show him game tape on it like kenny smith said. and ask him, russ is that a good shot? is that one a good shot? no?

if the thunder are gonna win it all (this yr or in future) westbrooks gonna have to play a big role in it. he isnt stunting durant, durant is gonna lead the league in scoring for years.

[coin24]

OK this is what pisses me off about rose and bulls homers...

Westbrook has 1 bad performance and hes now "Westbrick"? Any bulls fan should shut the fu*k up in here, Rose goes 6-24, 5-25 etc on a very regular basis. His 3pt shooting is pathetic also, he was what, 0-9 the other night??? Yeah, never costs his team the game though:facepalm :facepalm

Idiots...

Now I cant wait for the Bulls to get bounced from the playoffs, I hope its by atlanta in the 2nd round actually:lol Then all these losers can go and hide till the offseason hopefully.....

[Scoooter]

We need a Thunder/Bulls Finals to settle the debate once and for all!

[coin24]

As said above, once Westbrook sits down and realises the difference between a good shot and a horrible shot attempt he will be fine:lol

Thunder are looking really good so far, hopefully they can make it all the way to the finals:cheers: No more Lakers v Celtics please!!!!!

[imdaman99]

We need a Thunder/Bulls Finals to settle the debate once and for all!
hell no man, i want the bulls out of the playoffs as soon as possible. i dont want a 50/50 chance of them winning it all :lol

[Duranthebest]

2 great players that are fighting for each other.

in BOS games no matter how hot PP is from 3, he always looks to get it to Ray.

Westbrook costed them this game playing hero

lol @ this is not a good analogy. I'll give you 2 reasons why.

1. Paul Pierce is way better than Ray Allen and he's a way better scorer. He'd be the Durante in this situation. If it comes down to a clutch shot and Pierce has it going, he's taking this shot. Since the big 3, Pierce has probably taken 90% of the ok we need a bucket crunch time shots. The ball is always in Pierce's hands late and if he's has it going, he's taking it.

2. Ray Allen is the selfish player on Boston. People confuse his FGA attempts with being unselfish, they're wrong. Like WestBrook, Ray is always looking to get his. He just doesn't have the ball in his hands 24/7.

Since the big-3 era, the ratio of Pierce passing to Allen vs Allen Passing to Pierce has to be more than 5-1. And if we're talking assists? Please! Easily close to 10-1.

2.

[RedBlackAttack]

dude, im sure you realize westbrook is an important piece on the team. when hes going good they are almost damn unbeatable. hes too good to be an x-factor. he makes dumb mistakes, but this loss is a learning experience. all they gotta do is show him game tape on it like kenny smith said. and ask him, russ is that a good shot? is that one a good shot? no?

if the thunder are gonna win it all (this yr or in future) westbrooks gonna have to play a big role in it. he isnt stunting durant, durant is gonna lead the league in scoring for years.
Well... He stunted him tonight and that trumps any scoring titles or whatever other statistical achievements that you want to bring up. There is no reason for the shot disparity between Westbrook and Durant in tonight's game. This is the playoffs. I don't know enough about OKC to say whether or not this may become a trend or if it was just an odd night, but this series is over if Durant gets more looks tonight and Westbrook tones it down on the scoring attempts... Not a doubt in my mind.

Regular season achievements are nice, but now is when a player truly reveals himself. We will see if Westbrook is the kind of point guard that can bring the best out of Durant in the coming days/weeks, but it didn't look like it tonight.

I hope that it works, because I am honestly rooting for them. OKC could probably afford a brain-fart of a game like that from Westbrook in this series, because they are going to win it anyway, but it does concern me about his mindset and how content he is with simply being a very good point guard on a team with an elite scorer that needs his touches.

[O_City_Thunder]

dude, im sure you realize westbrook is an important piece on the team. when hes going good they are almost damn unbeatable. hes too good to be an x-factor. he makes dumb mistakes, but this loss is a learning experience. all they gotta do is show him game tape on it like kenny smith said. and ask him, russ is that a good shot? is that one a good shot? no?

if the thunder are gonna win it all (this yr or in future) westbrooks gonna have to play a big role in it. he isnt stunting durant, durant is gonna lead the league in scoring for years.
Of course I know Westbrook is an important piece on our team. Can't I go on a rant about how much I dislike Westbrook without the "fair-weather" and "crying" comments? :confusedshrug:

[Gallant]

There is absolutely no reason your PG should have 30 shots in a game. That is inexcusable and his desire to play hero ball is a large reason why they lost this one.

[2swift4u]

it was actually nice to see Westbrook fail, dude has become a bit too cocky for my taste

[ICanDunk]

The coming Durant/Westbrook clash is going to cost OKC this playoffs, mark my words.
I think Scott Brooks can keep them in check.

[Rajondo]

it was actually nice to see Westbrook fail, dude has become a bit too cocky for my taste

I feel exactly the same way.

Bit of an overreaction thread though, he's a solid player and will win the Thunder a game these playoffs when Durant is off.

[hkfosho]

Rose is shooting 35% for his series though, so Russ's 40%FG night is still better.

You dumb fruitbag, both are playing in complete different roles. One has the entire team focusing on him on defense while the other one is playing alongside as a second option. Rose blows westbrook out the water.

NEXT

[Faberg]

Didn't Westbrook play SG in college? Regardless, he needs to pass the ball more.

[Killbot]

lol @ this is not a good analogy. I'll give you 2 reasons why.

1. Paul Pierce is way better than Ray Allen and he's a way better scorer. He'd be the Durante in this situation. If it comes down to a clutch shot and Pierce has it going, he's taking this shot. Since the big 3, Pierce has probably taken 90% of the ok we need a bucket crunch time shots. The ball is always in Pierce's hands late and if he's has it going, he's taking it.

2. Ray Allen is the selfish player on Boston. People confuse his FGA attempts with being unselfish, they're wrong. Like WestBrook, Ray is always looking to get his. He just doesn't have the ball in his hands 24/7.

Since the big-3 era, the ratio of Pierce passing to Allen vs Allen Passing to Pierce has to be more than 5-1. And if we're talking assists? Please! Easily close to 10-1.

2.

Uhh...Ray Allen is usually open when given the ball, so he takes the shot. If any Celtic player is open, he should take the shot as said by Doc Rivers. Considering Ray Allen plays well off the ball, you can see why Pierce passes to Allen more than Allen passes to Pierce.

[Hittin_Shots]

Uhh...Ray Allen is usually open when given the ball, so he takes the shot. If any Celtic player is open, he should take the shot as said by Doc Rivers. Considering Ray Allen plays well off the ball, you can see why Pierce passes to Allen more than Allen passes to Pierce.

Don't bother arguing with that guy, he's a moron that thinks allen shud pass up open shots he's worked off screens for to pass to pierce...

[rocfan1]

WOW westbrook goes out and has a typical Rose night and all of a sudden he's westbrick and selfish ball hog and not elite LOL :wtf: like I always say him and Rose have the same game no difference

[Durantula35]

I feel exactly the same way.

Bit of an overreaction thread though, he's a solid player and will win the Thunder a game these playoffs when Durant is off.

So true. People seem to have forgotten the series Russ had against the Lakers last playoffs when Durant struggled mightily.

He did take some bad shots down the stretch of the last game. But he's not getting traded nor has he suddenly turned into a "role-player."

He's 22 and playing the most cerebral position in the NBA. He's not a natural point but he can learn to be more patient, set teammates up better, and take shots in the flow of the game.

[Hittin_Shots]

So true. People seem to have forgotten the series Russ had against the Lakers last playoffs when Durant struggled mightily.

He did take some bad shots down the stretch of the last game. But he's not getting traded nor has he suddenly turned into a "role-player."

He's 22 and playing the most cerebral position in the NBA. He's not a natural point but he can learn to be more patient, set teammates up better, and take shots in the flow of the game.

Why is this one game being scrutinised so bad when there are players shooting worse for entire series so far?

Also it appears Bulls fans don't realise their games are mostly won by their defence and not the MVP carrying them..

[kurple]

westbrook is a beast. He won game 3 by him self (with help from the Nuggets)

[PBJ_Time]

The hypocrisy of the the Bulls/Rose fans is too much to bear.

[Durantula35]

Why is this one game being scrutinised so bad when there are players shooting worse for entire series so far?

Also it appears Bulls fans don't realise their games are mostly won by their defence and not the MVP carrying them..

The Thunder were on the comeback trail when Russ shot them out of the game. I can understand the scrutiny but I don't get the overreaction.

I realize some of it is due to the Russ/Rose comparisons. I'll concede that Rose has been a better player this season especially at the end of games where the Bulls rely on him to play LeBron ball (from the Cavs days). However, their PERs are essentially the same for the year and the playoffs.

Nevertheless, Russ has a lot of room for improvement and this game showed it. His Usage Rate for this playoffs is second among all starters, a shade below Rose's and about 8 points ahead of Durant's. That will not do.

Part of the blame has to fall on Scott Brooks as well for not calling timeouts and settling Russ down, and also not insisting on the ball getting to Durant more. But that's for another thread.

[RainierBeachPoet]

i laughed when he chucked up that last shot

go nuggz beat the okc INBREEDERS!!

[the_wise_one]

Dude's just channeling his inner Kobe.

[Godzuki]

they need to make it personal with Westbrook every game. he's got that Kobe 1v1 narcissism. make him chuck it instead of pass and hope his shot is off.

[Rhinox]

The hypocrisy of the the Bulls/Rose fans is too much to bear.
:facepalm :facepalm

different team different roll.

[Hittin_Shots]

:facepalm :facepalm

different team different roll.

Ok Rose is more to his offence than westbrook to his offence, but are u saying rose isn't struggling on his major roll this series? He is being saved by the bulls collective defence on a team noone expected to give the bulls so much trouble more than he is winning the game.. Do u not believe that?

[rocfan1]

:facepalm :facepalm

different team different roll.

I think thats a dumb excuse I dont care what your roll is when your shooting 35% and continues to jack up shots thats not gonna help your cause and thats one reason why Indiana has been arms reach of winning every game this series.

Westbrook has been playing good this series pushing the tempo and playing good D but for some reason he was playing angry game 4 and kept jacking up shots but how can people sit up here and call him not elite and say hes got alot to work on but dont fault D-rose for the same exact reasons when Rose does that same thing night in night out that is homerism and is a major reason why I cant respect certain rose fans because they cant admit when their favorite player has faults acting like he's untouchable!

Rose and Westbrook are 22yrs old and they both are and will be elite PG's for a very long time BOOK IT!

[pauk]

westbrook was only like..... "hm.. a player who aint really any better than me is classified as MVP and better player than me just for taking more shots? ok then i will do the same"....

[rocfan1]

westbrook was only like..... "hm.. a player who aint really any better than me is classified as MVP and better player than me just for taking more shots? ok then i will do the same"....

:basketball

Finally someone who see the truth both Rose and Westbrook have the same game the only thing that separates them is their roles.

[Hittin_Shots]

westbrook was only like..... "hm.. a player who aint really any better than me is classified as MVP and better player than me just for taking more shots? ok then i will do the same"....

He's MVP coz theyre record was the best apparently but he's their offence and their defence was the major reason... I'm not saying he doesnt deserve it but Rose fans act like he's god, theyre getting to be kobestans level.

[pauk]

He's MVP coz theyre record was the best apparently but he's their offence and their defence was the major reason... I'm not saying he doesnt deserve it but Rose fans act like he's god, theyre getting to be kobestans level.

agree

[Phenith]

The guy is only in his 3rd year and 22 years old... anyone who wouldn't want a player like him on their team is delusional.
He is still learning which is scary because of how good he is already.

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Dude thought he was Kobe (both literally and figuratively)

[BEAST Griffin]

Dude thought he was Kobe (literally)

Yup. Played just like him.

[Go Getter]

Ok Rose is more to his offence than westbrook to his offence, but are u saying rose isn't struggling on his major roll this series? He is being saved by the bulls collective defence on a team noone expected to give the bulls so much trouble more than he is winning the game.. Do u not believe that?


No.

Even though he has shot poorly he has stepped up three games out of four to make big shots when his team needed it.

Every team but the Boston has lost a game in their series but it seems as if the Bulls and Rose are taking the most flak.

[dunksby]

I believe it will be a lesson in humility and emotion control for him. He is gonna sleep on it and realize this shit wont serve against better teams and anyone who says he does not want Westbrook on OKC is not a fan.

[PBJ_Time]

:facepalm :facepalm

different team different roll.
Did you mean role?

This argument has been beaten to death and it's a dumb one, at that. Piss poor shooting is piss poor shooting, no matter how you slice it. Both are similar players, but Rose fans have been foaming at the mouth, waiting for a game like this from Westbrook.

[Go Getter]

Did you mean role?

This argument has been beaten to death and it's a dumb one, at that. Piss poor shooting is piss poor shooting, no matter how you slice it. Both are similar players, but Rose fans have been foaming at the mouth, waiting for a game like this from Westbrook.


He had a 7-17 game in a win and no one said, "he isn't important to the team because he shot shitty and they still won."

We Bulls/Rose fans aren't too worried about what RW does...trust.

[PBJ_Time]

He had a 7-17 game in a win and no one said, "he isn't important to the team because he shot shitty and they still won."

We Bulls/Rose fans aren't too worried about what RW does...trust.
Seriously? That's a riot! There's nothing BUT Rose fans getting all butthurt when someone dares compare Westbrook to Rose! Read the thread!

[niko]

he took so many shots it reminded me of Derrick Rose.

[Go Getter]

Seriously? That's a riot! There's nothing BUT Rose fans getting all butthurt when someone dares compare Westbrook to Rose! Read the thread!

You seem like the only excited person here.

I don't speak for ALL BUlls fans, but for the part we do not feel like RW has the same responsibilities as Rose.

...comparing them is not fair to Rose, who is the #1 option of his offense while RW has Kevin Durant.

[Go Getter]

he took so many shots it reminded me of Derrick Rose.
Except RW has Durant to take the pressure off of him and Rose has Deng and Kyle Korver.

[KB2009Champ]

anyone know what he and durant were arguing about?

and why does kobe have to be brought into every convo? if you dislike him so much why do you keep on bringing him up when no one else has? dont get it

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

anyone know what he and durant were arguing about?

and why does kobe have to be brought into every convo? if you dislike him so much why do you keep on bringing him up when no one else has? dont get it

Westbrook was playing like the only player who would shotjack down the stretch like that - Kobe Bryant.

Get mad.

[rocfan1]

You seem like the only excited person here.

I don't speak for ALL BUlls fans, but for the part we do not feel like RW has the same responsibilities as Rose.

...comparing them is not fair to Rose, who is the #1 option of his offense while RW has Kevin Durant.

why isnt it fair to compare them? we compare players based on skills

Plus Westbrook has been guarded by Afflalo Denvers best defender the last 2 games. i odnt understand what your getting at with that statement!?

[Go Getter]

why isnt it fair to compare them? we compare players based on skills

Plus Westbrook has been guarded by Afflalo Denvers best defender the last 2 games


It isn't fair to compare them because Derrick Rose IS the franchise.

RW is great, but honestly, Durant is the franchise player.

RW has a lot less pressure on him, but said pressure isn't on the level of Rose's.

I'm not saying that RW couldn't step up and be a franchise player, just that he hasn't been asked to....until he does, I don't think he is on Rose's level.

[KB2009Champ]

Westbrook was playing like the only player who would shotjack down the stretch like that - Kobe Bryant.

Get mad.

Sorry but I'm not. it was a question. Simple as that. If a kobe quote from someone I didn't know on a message board gets me mad then :oldlol:

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Sorry but I'm not. it was a question. Simple as that. If a kobe quote from someone I didn't know on a message board gets me mad then :oldlol:

WAHHH, why do you have to bring up Kobe all the time :cry:

Whatever dude, move along.

[kizut1659]

He is begining to remind me of Iverson.

[greensmoke21]

Shannon Brown 2.0

[O_City_Thunder]

Now that I've calmed down....I hope Westbrook comes out and redeems himself in game 5 and throughout the Playoffs.

[opps]

Now that I've calmed down....I hope Westbrook comes out and redeems himself in game 5 and throughout the Playoffs.

When he gets frustrated he plays like that all the time. Its gonna take longer than this year for him to learn to play and control his emotions. He is a great player though and he will learn.

[O_City_Thunder]

When he gets frustrated he plays like that all the time. Its gonna take longer than this year for him to learn to play and control his emotions. He is a great player though and he will learn.
Believe me, I know. I'm just trying a more positive approach.

[Smoke117]

I like Westbrook, but he's not even as good as scorer as people (AND REALLY APPARENT NOW HE HIMSELF) believes. He's great at getting to the basket, finishing, and at getting to the ft line (and making those ft's), but he still can't shoot worth a shit. His .538ts% is incredibly mediocre. He still really needs to work on his jump shot and him taking 30 shots to Durants 18 unless he was really hot is just ridiculous.

[50inchvertical]

Westbrook's 1 horrendous game, easily the worst of his career, is sure being blown up to EPIC proportions. It's even more ironic coming from people hwo use it to prop up Rose given that last night, Russell Westbrook still shot a HIGHER percentage than Derrick Rose is in his series. 40% > 35% :oldlol:

[imdaman99]

Westbrook's 1 horrendous game, easily the worst of his career, is sure being blown up to EPIC proportions. It's even more ironic coming from people hwo use it to prop up Rose given that last night, Russell Westbrook still shot a HIGHER percentage than Derrick Rose is in his series. 40% > 35% :oldlol:
im not gonna kill rose over his shooting %s, because a win is all that matters. if the thunder were down 3-1, i would be killing westbrook too over his last game. but they are up 3-1, and obviously durant has beasted but westbrook is a big reason they are up 3-1. nobody expected the thunder to sweep, as a matter of fact some people didnt predict them to even win the series.

[PBJ_Time]

Westbrook's 1 horrendous game, easily the worst of his career, is sure being blown up to EPIC proportions. It's even more ironic coming from people hwo use it to prop up Rose given that last night, Russell Westbrook still shot a HIGHER percentage than Derrick Rose is in his series. 40% > 35% :oldlol:
But Rose is the franchise player so it's ok to shoot 35%.

[Rhinox]

But Rose is the franchise player so it's ok to shoot 35%.

But Rose wins games so its ok to shoot 35%

[entropy35]

But Rose wins games so its ok to shoot 35%
In the playoffs bulls have lost a game and OKc have lost a game.

[Mach_3]

But Bulls wins games so its ok to shoot 35%

Fixed

[PBJ_Time]

But Rose wins games so its ok to shoot 35%
Rose does, on his own? It has nothing to do with team defense? Yeah, that 35% is clearly WHAT is winning the games.:rolleyes:

[King Kong]

WOW westbrook goes out and has a typical Rose night and all of a sudden he's westbrick and selfish ball hog and not elite LOL :wtf: like I always say him and Rose have the same game no difference
Westbrook was channeling his inner Rose.