View Full Version : Andrew Bynum flagrant foul on JJ Barea at end of Lakers/Mavs Game 4
Colby Brian
05-08-2011, 10:49 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view5/2463345/bynum-knocks-barea-o.gif
Andrew Bynum cheap-shots JJ Barea and gets ejected
:applause:
SinJackal
05-08-2011, 10:49 PM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/kennerguy66/a53jxah.gif
whoartthou
05-08-2011, 10:50 PM
:(
Colby Brian
05-08-2011, 10:50 PM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/kennerguy66/a53jxah.gif
fail punch, he hit him in the neck :lol
http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/ap/58/fullj.e679e9a5d53f16c3742e50f35009d766/ap-201105081917694614379.jpg
Patrick Chewing
05-08-2011, 10:52 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SmaB3.gif
Beautiful
SAKOTXA
05-08-2011, 10:53 PM
****ing idiot, good job? Champs aren't supposed to go out like this. Should have shown way more class.
Let's just take it upon us; as a Laker fan, would you be happy with a Maverick fouling one of our players like this when we already have won the series?
SinJackal
05-08-2011, 10:53 PM
fail punch, he hit him in the neck :lol
And Kobe cringed up like a *****.
Noob Saibot
05-08-2011, 10:53 PM
the only bad thing Bynum did in the series. other than that, dude played like a boss.
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/files/cache/831/la-lakers-banner_83105232d59eeb1aedf84a8b77801427.jpg
Oositdwn
05-08-2011, 10:54 PM
Look at that flop, that wasn't even a foul,
He's in mid air are you serious??? :facepalm
gilalizard
05-08-2011, 10:57 PM
http://i55.tinypic.com/oi57uu.jpg
lol that's so bad
I feel bad for ron, I like his personality and antics and willingness to **** with people. He's got that old-school vibe about him. Plus he's crazy as a shit-house rat.
But whatever chance LA had at rallying died with this stinker. How the **** do you clank an uncontested layup this badly...
Colby Brian
05-08-2011, 10:58 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view7/2463373/lakers-celebrate-championship-o.gif
celtics fans and kobe haters must of cried :cry:
SinJackal
05-08-2011, 10:58 PM
lol that's so bad
I feel bad for ron, I like his personality and antics and willingness to **** with people. He's got that old-school vibe about him. Plus he's crazy as a shit-house rat.
But whatever chance LA had at rallying died with this stinker. How the **** do you clank an uncontested layup this badly...
:roll:
kentatm
05-08-2011, 11:00 PM
http://i.imgur.com/SmaB3.gif
:D
Patrick Chewing
05-08-2011, 11:01 PM
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/files/cache/831/la-lakers-banner_83105232d59eeb1aedf84a8b77801427.jpg
And probably never again for a long, long time
KOBEtherealKing
05-08-2011, 11:03 PM
And probably never again for a long, long time
:roll: :no:
Colby Brian
05-08-2011, 11:04 PM
And probably never again for a long, long time
well see nikka
MayCeltics
05-08-2011, 11:04 PM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/kennerguy66/a53jxah.gif
:roll: :roll: :roll:
imlmf
05-08-2011, 11:04 PM
this thread further proves why kobe ******ger are pathetic in life
KG215
05-08-2011, 11:11 PM
What really worries me is that there is apparently more than just one or two Lakers fans that are ok with what Bynum did. If you're not trolling and you're truly ok with what Bynum did, then you've got major issues.
lilbeastnani
05-08-2011, 11:12 PM
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6509618
Reasoning is because "we were getting embarrassed, and that's what happens"
Odom said he was a "little embarrassed" and Bynum said the Lakers getting embarrassed led to his action, which ended his season about eight minutes before his teammates.
"They were breaking us down," Bynum said. "So I just fouled somebody."
Bynum, who after Game 3 spoke of "trust issues" among the Lakers, walked off the American Airlines Center floor bare-chested after flinging off his jersey.
thatoneblackguy
05-08-2011, 11:13 PM
MANdrew :rockon:
zay_24
05-08-2011, 11:14 PM
Keeping it real
And probably never again for a long, long time
Please....who do you think we are, the Knicks? Kupchak and Buss will have us back in no time.
Look in the rafters.. no other team have team traditions of winning consistently in every era.
Guarantee we will be back in the hunt next year and still one of the top teams in the league.
As embarrassing as this elimination has been...with talk like this, it's being overblown...they've won back to back titles and been to 3 straight finals...they can't win every year, teams lose...sh*t happens nobody has been to 4 straight finals since the 80s lakers...some tweaks will have to be made (it'll be a new coach as well), but they'll have a shot next year to contend...they still have 2 or so years before they have to think about a total rebuild...remember now it's the Lakers, there's no telling who they might end up acquiring...
lakerHater
05-08-2011, 11:17 PM
Very classy OP!!
Showsmuch bout the fLakers fan base! :applause:
AirJordan&Magic
05-08-2011, 11:18 PM
Nothing but respect for Bynum. I really love the effort he has shown in these playoffs... He has definitely been my favorite Lakers' player lately.
lilbeastnani
05-08-2011, 11:19 PM
Nothing but respect for Bynum. I really love the effort he has shown in these playoffs... He has definitely been my favorite Lakers' player lately.
Respect? As a player, and in terms of how he played and his effort I respect that. But I don't respect his attitude in the least. He's just a spoiled little kid really who acts out when he doesn't get what he want and shows no remorse for his actions.
zay_24
05-08-2011, 11:19 PM
Respect? As a player, and in terms of how he played and his effort I respect that. But I don't respect his attitude in the least. He's just a spoiled little kid really who acts out when he doesn't get what he want and shows no remorse for his actions.
JJ was talking shit all game
lilbeastnani
05-08-2011, 11:20 PM
JJ was talking shit all game
And i'm sure Bynum was just sitting pretty.
Colby Brian
05-08-2011, 11:21 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view5/2463345/bynum-knocks-barea-o.gif
best play of the game, nice job andrew
comerb
05-08-2011, 11:22 PM
Nothing but respect for Bynum. I really love the effort he has shown in these playoffs... He has definitely been my favorite Lakers' player lately.
Effort? He blatantly tried to hurt someone half his size w/out making any effort to go after the ball at all. He's a bully... I'd like to see him do that shit to someone like KG.
He's a ***** punk kid.
STATUTORY
05-08-2011, 11:24 PM
Effort? He blatantly tried to hurt someone half his size w/out making any effort to go after the ball at all.
He's a ****ing ***** punk kid.
why was Barea trying to take it to the hoop up by 30 in the 4th quarter?
if you want to stat pad and show up your opponent, u need to face the consequences
Laker12
05-08-2011, 11:25 PM
Effort? He blatantly tried to hurt someone half his size w/out making any effort to go after the ball at all. He's a bully... I'd like to see him do that shit to someone like KG.
He's a ***** punk kid.
You mad?
Mr. Incredible
05-08-2011, 11:26 PM
You mad?You should be. Your team got swept. :applause:
ballup
05-08-2011, 11:27 PM
why was Barea trying to take it to the hoop up by 30 in the 4th quarter?
if you want to stat pad and show up your opponent, u need to face the consequences
So Barea is not allowed to play hard? Should he have just given the ball to the Lakers for sympathy?
zay_24
05-08-2011, 11:27 PM
Artest hits dude in the face
Bynum with the elbow
Odom pushes dirk like deebo
PJ calls out the refs
Kobe calls the ref a fakkit then gives the other ref the Mutumbo finger wave
Aint no team in history had more goons in just one post season :bowdown: :bowdown:
why was Barea trying to take it to the hoop up by 30 in the 4th quarter?
if you want to stat pad and show up your opponent, u need to face the consequences
Yes Dallas absolutely should have just sat on the ball for the rest of the game, not scoring any more points, allowing LA to catch up. Get a brain, or preferably put a bullet through your empty skull.
dazzer87
05-08-2011, 11:28 PM
You should be. Your team got swept. :applause:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause: :applause: :applause:
melih69
05-08-2011, 11:28 PM
You should be. Your team got swept. :applause:
Lmao +1
thatoneblackguy
05-08-2011, 11:29 PM
You should be. Your team got swept. :applause:
The back to back championship trophies help us cope with the pain. What has your team done? :roll: OWNED.
KG215
05-08-2011, 11:29 PM
JJ was talking shit all game
So what if he was? His team was completely embarrassing the Lakers so, if anyone had the right to be talking shit, it was J.J. and the other Mavs players as they were on their way to a humiliating sweep of the defending champs.
Now, we don't know if J.J. was actually talking ish to Bynum. I find it hard to believe he was because it's not like they were guarding each other. But, if he was, then that still doesn't excuse what Bynum did.
You're a very sorry excuse of a poster and I pray that all the stupid crap you post is just trolling and doesn't actually reflect who you are in real life.
Brickz187
05-08-2011, 11:30 PM
The back to back championship trophies help us cope with the pain. What has your team done? :roll: OWNED.
but it's 2011 tho
Colby Brian
05-08-2011, 11:30 PM
Very classy OP!!
Showsmuch bout the fLakers fan base! :applause:
lol u mad or something?
STATUTORY
05-08-2011, 11:31 PM
Yes Dallas absolutely should have just sat on the ball for the rest of the game, not scoring any more points, allowing LA to catch up. Get a brain, or preferably put a bullet through your empty skull.
Dallas could do whatever they want. but if you choose to willingly embarrass your opponent by running up the score, don't b!tch and act like a victim when you get knocked on your butt
nashwade
05-08-2011, 11:31 PM
anyone who attempts those kind of cheap fouls is a sore loser.. you can end someone's career cos you can't stand to lose
what kind of idiot does that?
KG215
05-08-2011, 11:32 PM
why was Barea trying to take it to the hoop up by 30 in the 4th quarter?
if you want to stat pad and show up your opponent, u need to face the consequences
There was like 8 minutes left in the game at that point, What were the Mavs supposed to do? Sit at the top of the key, dribble the ball, and take a shot clock violation every possession for the rest of the game? These are grown ass men getting paid millions of dollars to play a game. If the Lakers don't like being blown out then maybe they should actually guard someone the first 40 minutes of the game.
Are you really that stupid?
Dallas could do whatever they want. but if you choose to willingly embarrass your opponent by running up the score, don't b!tch and act like a victim when you get knocked on your butt
You're an idiot.
gilalizard
05-08-2011, 11:33 PM
Artest hits dude in the face
Bynum with the elbow
Odom pushes dirk like deebo
PJ calls out the refs
Kobe calls the ref a fakkit then gives the other ref the Mutumbo finger wave
Aint no team in history had more goons in just one post season :bowdown: :bowdown:
lol really?
finger waving and talking shit about the refs is being a goon?
oh the horror
05-08-2011, 11:35 PM
Artest hits dude in the face
Bynum with the elbow
Odom pushes dirk like deebo
PJ calls out the refs
Kobe calls the ref a fakkit then gives the other ref the Mutumbo finger wave
Aint no team in history had more goons in just one post season
:bowdown: :bowdown:
You havent been watching ball for very long eh? :oldlol:
lilbeastnani
05-08-2011, 11:37 PM
Barrea isn't even a starter. If you can't even contain the backup point late in a blowout game, that's on you.
lilbeastnani
05-08-2011, 11:38 PM
anyone who attempts those kind of cheap fouls is a sore loser.. you can end someone's career cos you can't stand to lose
what kind of idiot does that?
Exactly. Yeah frustration fouls like what Odom did, those happen all the time. But Bynum's attempt to injure the guy while he was up in the air was pretty much inexcusable and as others have said given his history should warrant a hefty fine and a 10-15 game suspension at the least to teach him a lesson.
oh the horror
05-08-2011, 11:38 PM
this thread further proves why kobe ******ger are pathetic in life
Actually from where Im standing, this proves equally why Kobe haters are just as pathetic as Kobe's fans.
Sitting around hurling insults at eachother, and random various gif wars, is pretty juvenile shit.
And as far as Bynum goes...It wasnt a "highlight" of the game for me. It just made the loss even more embarrassing. Just my opinion though.
zay_24
05-08-2011, 11:39 PM
You havent been watching ball for very long eh? :oldlol:
Im a 90s baby, but please name one team with mo goonies than these BOSS Angeles Lakers
Colby Brian
05-08-2011, 11:40 PM
Actually from where Im standing, this proves equally why Kobe haters are just as pathetic as Kobe's fans.
Sitting around hurling insults at eachother, and random various gif wars, is pretty juvenile shit.
kobe haters are pathetic, all they do is talk and hate on kobe more than talking about their team and fav player
Scoooter
05-08-2011, 11:40 PM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/kennerguy66/a53jxah.gif
:roll: :roll:
Kingwillball
05-08-2011, 11:40 PM
Artest hits dude in the face
Bynum with the elbow
Odom pushes dirk like deebo
PJ calls out the refs
Kobe calls the ref a fakkit then gives the other ref the Mutumbo finger wave
Aint no team in history had more goons in just one post season :bowdown: :bowdown:
Very true..Lakers got what was coming to them and it was long overdue.. There fans on here are much like the team Bullies who think they are above everyone and once they get smacked in the mouth/put in Place don't know how to handle it..
Hawker
05-08-2011, 11:40 PM
What a thug.
oh the horror
05-08-2011, 11:40 PM
kobe haters are pathetic, all they do is talk and hate on kobe more than talking about their team and fav player
Its because secretly, they're favorite team, and player are the lakers, and Kobe Bryant.
zay_24
05-08-2011, 11:41 PM
kobe haters are pathetic, all they do is talk and hate on kobe more than talking about their team and fav player
"If they aint talking about you, then you doing somethin wrong"
:cheers:
It was uncalled for. But when Shaq does, he's protecting the paint, when Dwight does it, he's showing his not so soft side, when Perkins does it, he's showing his physicality, when Bynum does it, it's thug ass move.
And I'm not just referring to this this play, several other situations aswell.
STATUTORY
05-08-2011, 11:41 PM
There was like 8 minutes left in the game at that point, What were the Mavs supposed to do? Sit at the top of the key, dribble the ball, and take a shot clock violation every possession for the rest of the game? These are grown ass men getting paid millions of dollars to play a game. If the Lakers don't like being blown out then maybe they should actually guard someone the first 40 minutes of the game.
Are you really that stupid?
they could shot jumpers but barea acting like some hero going to the hoop :confusedshrug: hard fouls are part of the game. you take that risk if you are going to the hoop.
coin24
05-08-2011, 11:41 PM
It was a bit of a cheap shot, and would have been terrible if he got injured.
But, I hate Barea and the Mavs so it was good to see Bynum and Odom show some emotion, fine it was dirty and i dont like to see anyone get hurt etc... They played like shit all game. They just stood there on defence and let the mavs continue to drop 3s on them:facepalm
Woeful pathetic effort in this series by the Lakers, pretty sure there will be some trades in the offseason... Gasol and Artest:facepalm
Great D by Shannon on that play also, just swing your arm out good job:applause: , Lakers need to get rid of there whole bench basically. I bet there fans wish they had Farmar Vujacic Mbenga and Powell back!!!!
OldSchoolBBall
05-08-2011, 11:42 PM
Laker fans showing that they're goons just like their team in this thread. Stay classy, Laker fans. :oldlol:
oh the horror
05-08-2011, 11:42 PM
Very true..Lakers got what was coming to them and it was long overdue.. There fans on here are much like the team Bullies who think they are above everyone and once they get smacked in the mouth/put in Place don't know how to handle it..
This is such utter horseshit. :oldlol:
thatoneblackguy
05-08-2011, 11:42 PM
kobe haters are pathetic, all they do is talk and hate on kobe more than talking about their team and fav player
He must be doing SOMETHING right to have this many haters. I mean, you don't see any Sefolosha haters running around. :lol
oh the horror
05-08-2011, 11:42 PM
Laker fans showing that they're goons just like their team in this thread. Stay classy, Laker fans. :oldlol:
And frankly pal YOU wouldnt know "class" if it bit you on the ass. Get outta here with that nonsense. Ive seen you act like an ass several times on here.
FKAri
05-08-2011, 11:43 PM
He's mentally weak if he let JJ's talk get to em.
Though I respect him for the fact that he seemed to be the only Laker (along with Kobe) really giving it their all and not losing trust in their own abilities.
LA_Showtime
05-08-2011, 11:43 PM
It was uncalled for. But when Shaq does, he's protecting the paint, when Dwight does it, he's showing his not so soft side, when Perkins does it, he's showing his physicality, when Bynum does it, it's thug ass move.
And I'm not just referring to this this play, several other situations aswell.
This. Thank you. Finally a reasonable fan.
Colby Brian
05-08-2011, 11:43 PM
"If they aint talking about you, then you doing somethin wrong"
:cheers:
Scoooter
05-08-2011, 11:45 PM
Yeah, that was a ***** move. Really embarrassing for Phil and the Lakers. Now no one will feel bad the next time his knee gives out.
ballup
05-08-2011, 11:48 PM
they could shot jumpers but barea acting like some hero going to the hoop :confusedshrug: hard fouls are part of the game. you take that risk if you are going to the hoop.
There's a reason why you drive to the hoop. It's a better shot than a long jumper. Stop trying to defend a player who clearly was looking to take a shot at a player and not the ball.
lilbeastnani
05-08-2011, 11:49 PM
It was uncalled for. But when Shaq does, he's protecting the paint, when Dwight does it, he's showing his not so soft side, when Perkins does it, he's showing his physicality, when Bynum does it, it's thug ass move.
And I'm not just referring to this this play, several other situations aswell.
Shaq and Howard don't do that though. I've seen Shaq knock over guys who jump into him but i've never seen him blatently just elbow some little guy out of the air because he's pissed about losing. Same with Howard. Show me 1 example of that happening.
dazzer87
05-08-2011, 11:53 PM
Laker fans showing that they're goons just like their team in this thread. Stay classy, Laker fans. :oldlol:
Remember the last two years instead of partying after your team wins the title....the animals aka laker fans....riot in the street....... Thank God no riots this yr....No OT for LAPD....:cry: :cry:
What Bynum did is inexcusable. A player could be seriously injured from a shot like that. If you don't want to be embarrassed, then play hard - don't cheap shot a player - it's his livelihood that's at stake.
canyoufeelit?
05-08-2011, 11:54 PM
this is why no one likes the lakers. whenever they do something cheap and blatantly wrong and disgraceful to the game, their fake f@ggot fans defend them to the ends of the earth.
i know you guys are mad cause you got downright raped, but sitting here acting like bynum is a hero for that crap is ridiculous. grow up, and realize that your princess lakers aren't perfect just because they've been so successful.
all in all, laker fans are just as moronic and sore losers as the lakers.
sportstownusa
05-08-2011, 11:56 PM
Dallas could do whatever they want. but if you choose to willingly embarrass your opponent by running up the score, don't b!tch and act like a victim when you get knocked on your butt
are you pretending to be this stupid or are you really this stupid in real life?
The mavs were playing their game and the lakers were sucking bad. Yea, that was embarrassing. It should be embarrassing to the lakers. You know what running up the score even means? It has nothing to do with playing hard or getting quality shots. It just means the team is deliberately trying to get more points than they would have otherwise playing their normal game. The mavs were just playing their normal game. Regardless, if someone is trying to embarrass you within the limits of the game, then you try to do the same. The key is within the limits of the game. If you can't, then go sit your a$$ on the bench. Also, many of us who've watched the mavs for a while have seen the mavs blow a 27 point lead to the lakers IN THE 4th QUARTER.
Also, the lakers had 3 of their starters still in the game. You want to concede the game? get your starters out.
Lastly, you are a complete idiot when saying that someone shouldn't btch or act like a victim when someone tries injure you. If you have someone trying to embarrass you legally, then you try to embarrass them legally. You sound like a child and an idiot for trying to justify what bynum did. There is ZERO % justification of what bynum did. How the hell are you suggesting that it was Barea's fault that he got knocked down? Are you really suggesting that the Mavs should just not try to score with almost 9 mins remaining in the game?
Well, now you might say that if Barea can do whatever he wants and embarrass the lakers, then they can do the same. You're right. They can embarrass the mavs. But not by being a coward and knocking someone down WITHOUT EVEN MAKING A PLAY ON THE BALL. That's cowardly. Anyone who justifies his actions are bigger cowards.
All that being said, Bynum was obviously very frustrated. It must have been frustrating to play your heart out, only to see perimeter players being incapable of keeping their man in front of them, and others not helping him out when he rotates. People do stupid things when they are frustrated and feel helpless. I'm sure he felt that way and just wanted to hurt someone from the mavs for doing that to him. I understand that. But it was still 100% wrong on his part to do it. It's even worse for people who had nothing to do with the game to justify it. I feel bad for you if you really feel that what Bynum did was justified. I'm sure you would be singing the same tune if someone from your team was seriously injured because your opponent was embarrassed.
http://www.gifsoup.com/view5/2463345/bynum-knocks-barea-o.gif
best play of the game, nice job andrew
That elbow was worse than any elbow Mourning ever threw.
lilbeastnani
05-08-2011, 11:58 PM
all in all, laker fans are just as moronic and sore losers as the lakers.
yeah, I mean to sit here and act like "oh well it happens, it's nothing" is nothing short of amazing. lakers fans have been so spoiled over the years that they are starting to feel just as entitled as the players themselves feel. And when they don't win, it's like yeah we have a right to act hard and take cheap shots because that shows how much of men we are. what a joke and a horrible fan base.:facepalm
Mr. I'm So Rad
05-09-2011, 12:00 AM
Effort? He blatantly tried to hurt someone half his size w/out making any effort to go after the ball at all. He's a bully... I'd like to see him do that shit to someone like KG.
He's a ***** punk kid.
KG would turn the other way :oldlol:
apesta
05-09-2011, 12:00 AM
I hate both of them, but at least Odom felt bad after the game. But Bynum on the other hand doesn't find it a problem at all for that cheap shot. Thats just being a sore loser. For people who say Dallas was running up the score, they learn their lesson by not let up like they did against the Blazers. JJ had that wide open lane , of course he is gonna go for the layup. It doesnt mean Bynum can just injure the guy.
Da_Realist
05-09-2011, 12:01 AM
Bynum cared more about the outcome than Kobe did. Real talk.
thatoneblackguy
05-09-2011, 12:27 AM
I love how nobody else posted after what we said. Haters got OWNED.
PHX_Phan
05-09-2011, 12:37 AM
Typical Laker fan responses in here. :oldlol:
OldSchoolBBall
05-09-2011, 12:41 AM
[QUOTE=Colby Brian]
thatoneblackguy
05-09-2011, 12:43 AM
This is my attempt at being clever.
:facepalm
Colby Brian
05-09-2011, 12:48 AM
"Love me or hate me. It's one or the other. Always has been. Hate my lack of leadership, my invisibility in 4th quarters, my inability to score on 49 year old Jason Kidd. Hate that I'm a choker, a loser who got swept in the second round by a team we were heavily favored to beat. Hate that. Hate it with all your heart. And hate that all of Dallas now loves me for the exact same reasons."
someones mad :oldlol:
http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2010/0618/la_g_bryant_b1_300.jpg
u hate that hes a 5 time champion
OldSchoolBBall
05-09-2011, 12:49 AM
Bynum cared more about the outcome than Kobe did. Real talk.
..
steve
05-09-2011, 12:49 AM
Bynum cared more about the outcome than Kobe did. Real talk.
He cared so much about the outcome he couldn't finish the game on or near the court.
-playmaker-
05-09-2011, 12:53 AM
http://i55.tinypic.com/oi57uu.jpg
I was at this game...
you guys should have heard the crowd break out in laughter when this happened
it was PRICELESS
SavageMode
05-09-2011, 12:55 AM
Bynum real sour with that foul. Dude jus mad cuz he got sweeped LOLOL
http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20110507-broom.jpg.ece/ALTERNATES/w440/broom.jpg
bleedinpurpleTwo
05-09-2011, 12:57 AM
The only problem with Bynum's foul was that it was 3 games too late.
SavageMode
05-09-2011, 12:57 AM
http://www.dallasnews.com/incoming/20110507-broom.jpg.ece/ALTERNATES/w440/broom.jpg
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
WadeBronDonJuan
05-09-2011, 12:58 AM
The back to back championship trophies help us cope with the pain. What has your team done? :roll: OWNED.
You have got to be kidding me. You Laker's fans are absolute morons. It doesn't matter what you've done in the past. People live in the present, and your team got s*** on.
NotYetGreat
05-09-2011, 01:00 AM
You know, you're EXACTLY the type of person as to why everybody despises Lakers fans. There are actually really intelligent posters out there who rep the Lakers and actually contribute GOOD SHIT to this forum, but it's douchebags like you who come in here by the lot and just overshadow what those posters say with your twisted passion for your Lakers. How could you applaud Bynum for attempting to break Barea in half in mid-air, where he has almost no control compared to when he's on ground? The ****? Your ill want for your team to succeed overpowers your moral conscience and is making us value shit over your lame, crooked ass persona. You should be banned.
http://www.saturnfans.com/photos/data/500/medium/YOULOSE.jpg
Zackmorris
05-09-2011, 01:07 AM
they could shot jumpers but barea acting like some hero going to the hoop :confusedshrug: hard fouls are part of the game. you take that risk if you are going to the hoop.
Barea acting hero?
Boy have you gone full retard?
http://www.blogcdn.com/www.aolnews.com/media/2010/04/barkley-tz-150.jpg
LA_Showtime
05-09-2011, 01:10 AM
I didn't like the foul, but I can't be the only one who thinks it's sorta funny the way Barea just falls after the fact. He looks like a kid on a bike that just got a rock thrown at him or something.
Droid101
05-09-2011, 01:16 AM
And probably never again for a long, long time
Oh, now thats just asking for it.
LurkingFanboy
05-09-2011, 01:19 AM
Had the tables been turned and Kobe was driving the lane and Brian Cardinal jumped up and jawchecked him all hell would have broken loose and Lakers fans would be calling for his blood. I won't celebrate if somebody pays Bynum back for this but if he blows his knee out and his career is over I will find it hard to fight back that smirk.
LA_Showtime
05-09-2011, 01:21 AM
Had the tables been turned and Kobe was driving the lane and Brian Cardinal jumped up and jawchecked him all hell would have broken loose and Lakers fans would be calling for his blood. I won't celebrate if somebody pays Bynum back for this but if he blows his knee out and his career is over I will find it hard to fight back that smirk.
The man has a point. Had Cardinal done what you suggested he would've got attacked by a bunch of angry Mexicans.
The Lakers also would've responded in kind. I honestly think had Bynum done that earlier in the series it might've helped the Lakers' chances.
chungerball
05-09-2011, 01:34 AM
It was a bit of a cheap shot, and would have been terrible if he got injured.
But, I hate Barea and the Mavs so it was good to see Bynum and Odom show some emotion, fine it was dirty and i dont like to see anyone get hurt etc... They played like shit all game. They just stood there on defence and let the mavs continue to drop 3s on them:facepalm
Woeful pathetic effort in this series by the Lakers, pretty sure there will be some trades in the offseason... Gasol and Artest:facepalm
Great D by Shannon on that play also, just swing your arm out good job:applause: , Lakers need to get rid of there whole bench basically. I bet there fans wish they had Farmar Vujacic Mbenga and Powell back!!!!
:facepalm
Carmeloo15
05-09-2011, 02:15 AM
Gerald Wallace
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbcjL7AVxMA&feature=player_embedded
Michael Beasley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU7RiLERJ-Y&feature=player_embedded#at=39
JJ Barea
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HChLfBo0yUs&feature=player_embedded
:wtf:
any punishment?:wtf:
MayCeltics
05-09-2011, 02:16 AM
who cares!!! Lakers got swept.
Kobe tell me how my ass taste by shaq
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtbilFAG7ac
coin24
05-09-2011, 02:18 AM
:facepalm
Grammar police huh?
Great contribution:applause:
whoartthou
05-09-2011, 02:22 AM
dirty ass player... but this is nothing compared to the late 1980s or 1990s...
Carmeloo15
05-09-2011, 02:32 AM
dirty ass player... but this is nothing compared to the late 1980s or 1990s...
Different times , can't compared
Kobe24Clutch
05-09-2011, 02:32 AM
who cares!!! Lakers got swept.
Kobe tell me how my ass taste by shaq
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtbilFAG7ac
This fcuker :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
TrueGreenFan
05-09-2011, 02:38 AM
I like the one w Gerald Wallace the best.
K=k=k=k=k kobe how my azzzzzz taste
Has all the fans who are defending this forgot about Bynum puncturing G. Wallace's lung? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbcjL7AVxMA
What Bynum did to Barea is inexcusable, especially considering he has seriously injured somebody doing this in the past and had not learned his lesson. If this were a first time offense, I'd say 5 game suspension. But given that he has had multiple times doing this, including sending somebody to the hospital, I think he deserves a longer suspension that should teach him how truly bad this was. Its a shame too. I really wanted to like Bynum, but this action and the lack of remorse has solidified my dislike for the guy.
RazorBaLade
05-09-2011, 02:44 AM
The man has a point. Had Cardinal done what you suggested he would've got attacked by a bunch of angry Mexicans.
The Lakers also would've responded in kind. I honestly think had Bynum done that earlier in the series it might've helped the Lakers' chances.
thats not the kind of stuff that bonds teams. which is what we desperately needed. so i dont think it would have changed anything if it happened in like game 2.
BarberSchool
05-09-2011, 02:45 AM
dirty ass player... but this is nothing compared to the late 1980s or 1990s...Players did that in the 80's and 90's as a part of COMPETING in A COMPETETIVE PLAYOFF SERIES. Not as some spoiled brat "mad I didn't get my way" bullish!z in an uncompetetive blowout.
Everytime Oakley or Mason hit Jordan like that it was in a close game in a close series when the game was on the line, to MAKE SURE the 3GS okay didn't happen.
wang4three
05-09-2011, 02:47 AM
I hope Bynum's docked pay for every playoff game he played. He has a history of just taking out guys like this. Obviously past fines and suspensions have taught him nothing. Hit him hard in his wallet.
BarberSchool
05-09-2011, 02:47 AM
And yes, I expect Bynum to be fined heavily and suspended for quite a few games at the start of next season.
crisoner
05-09-2011, 02:47 AM
No Laker fan should defend Bynum's actions that was as dumb as a move as you can make in professional sports. Being frustrated etc. fine....but pulling a dumb foul like that. I am ashamed of Bynum's action learn to win with pride learn to also lose with pride. Somebody needs to talk to this kid...that was wrong.
wang4three
05-09-2011, 02:49 AM
It's a joke that he hasn't learned from the past two instances of this. If I were the Laker franchise or the league, I'd throw the book at him in terms of fines and suspensions. I'm ashamed he's from Jersey.
ErhnamDjinn
05-09-2011, 02:50 AM
wtf i wrong with some Laker fan's you actually believe what Andrew did was warranted?:wtf: Dude couldnt even man up and do it to someone like Chandler had to do it to a guy 1 foot smaller then him. Disgrace just like loser Laker fans who cant take a loss well, and Im not speaking about all of the Laker fans because there are some that are still level headed.
BarberSchool
05-09-2011, 02:52 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6509618
Reasoning is because "we were getting embarrassed, and that's what happens"Gtfoh Bynum, you're a buttersoft cornball lard@ss n!gga from rural new jersey. Your 15 minutes of hood are over. No one thanks you.
Kobe24Clutch
05-09-2011, 02:53 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view5/2463345/bynum-knocks-barea-o.gif
best play of the game, nice job andrew
Look at that Barea obviously flopped
BarberSchool
05-09-2011, 02:55 AM
Has all the fans who are defending this forgot about Bynum puncturing G. Wallace's lung? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbcjL7AVxMA
What Bynum did to Barea is inexcusable, especially considering he has seriously injured somebody doing this in the past and had not learned his lesson. If this were a first time offense, I'd say 5 game suspension. But given that he has had multiple times doing this, including sending somebody to the hospital, I think he deserves a longer suspension that should teach him how truly bad this was. Its a shame too. I really wanted to like Bynum, but this action and the lack of remorse has solidified my dislike for the guy.Word. I'd suspend him a dozen games based off the history with Gerald Wallace. Fine him like a quarter mil too. He knew damn well it could put a man in the hospital, and he did it anyway. He's lucky professional sports doesn't have it's players arrested for assault.
BarberSchool
05-09-2011, 02:57 AM
I won't celebrate if somebody pays Bynum back for this but if he blows his knee out and his career is over I will find it hard to fight back that smirk.Word. And I wonder if It'll happen soon enough for Andrew to feel the karma and/or God's judgement, however you wanna see it.
gleden
05-09-2011, 02:58 AM
***** move by him, trying to injure a player that is smaller than him, and only because he was pissed they were tearing them appart? Like cmon the game was over too
Artest hits dude in the face
Bynum with the elbow
Odom pushes dirk like deebo
PJ calls out the refs
Kobe calls the ref a fakkit then gives the other ref the Mutumbo finger wave
Aint no team in history had more goons in just one post season :bowdown: :bowdown:
Plus they had Matt Barnes on the bench, and Derek Fisher can play dirty too.
They would have given the '90s Knicks a run for their money.
Haymaker
05-09-2011, 03:00 AM
Like other posters said already, I was starting to like Bynum for speaking up and being some sort of leader and for coming back from injuries and playing at a respectable level, but what he did was low, and even lower is the fact that he's done the same shit already. Hitting someone while in the air is a very dangerous thing. A hard foul is given while the other player is with his feet on the ground.
ErhnamDjinn
05-09-2011, 03:02 AM
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/files/cache/831/la-lakers-banner_83105232d59eeb1aedf84a8b77801427.jpg
how many posts have you made using that banner plus the trophy case today? 2000++ I swear this is the only thing you contribute to this board :rolleyes:
Javat_90
05-09-2011, 03:03 AM
http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q225/kennerguy66/a53jxah.gif
What is Nowitzki`s record in street-fights?
In the 80s and 90s the players knocked people around by shoving with their forearms, not driving the point of their elbows into somebody's exposed rib cage. Bynum's history of doing this (including sending somebody to the hospital for a punctured rib) should make this a hefty suspension.
Oh yeah, I hope Bynum enjoys that 15-game suspension Stern is sure to drop on him at the start of next season (or whenever they play again).
Kobe24Clutch
05-09-2011, 03:05 AM
http://www.sportsmemorabilia.com/files/cache/831/la-lakers-banner_83105232d59eeb1aedf84a8b77801427.jpg
:rockon:
Kobe24Clutch
05-09-2011, 03:06 AM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view7/2463373/lakers-celebrate-championship-o.gif
celtics fans and kobe haters must of cried :cry:
:rockon: :applause: :bowdown:
LA_Showtime
05-09-2011, 03:15 AM
I'd give Bynum a 5 game suspension and a $500,000 dollar fine.
VishaltotheG
05-09-2011, 03:37 AM
What is Nowitzki`s record in street-fights?
better than SinJackals, that's for sure
B-Easy8
05-09-2011, 03:50 AM
I would be pissed too if I saw a guard penetrating easily for the 500th time these playoffs. He is playing big, I agree with what he did I just think he should have concealed it a little better like maybe body him to the floor instead of throwing the elbow.
This is the reason why the NBA has gotten so weak nowadays, back in the day that is a foul and nothing more just like it should be.
DMAVS41
05-09-2011, 04:05 AM
A classless Laker. Shocking.
The Lakers being sore losers and taking cheap shots is about as expected as Kobe bricking a game winner in the playoffs.
:lol
RazorBaLade
05-09-2011, 04:06 AM
A classless Laker. Shocking.
The Lakers being sore losers and taking cheap shots is about as expected as Kobe bricking a game winner in the playoffs.
:lol
i kno u just enjoying your trolling moment but lets be real , kobe ron fisher gasol handled today very nicely. they were very classy.
HighFlyer23
05-09-2011, 04:13 AM
LOL only laker fans would defend that b!tch move
Bynum going after the smallest player on the court like the f@ggot he is .. can't take a loss like a normal person so he pulls that ... n!99@ is a straight b!tch
DMAVS41
05-09-2011, 04:16 AM
i kno u just enjoying your trolling moment but lets be real , kobe ron fisher gasol handled today very nicely. they were very classy.
Today? Sure.
But everyone knew the Lakers would teak cheap shots if they were down in this series. And it happened three times. Just a bunch of sore losers.
As for Kobe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTWMVCJnG0
Go to 1:20....not like he's above taking cheap shots.
RazorBaLade
05-09-2011, 04:18 AM
Today? Sure.
But everyone knew the Lakers would teak cheap shots if they were down in this series. And it happened three times. Just a bunch of sore losers.
As for Kobe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTWMVCJnG0
Go to 1:20....not like he's above taking cheap shots.
im talking about today and this series. kobe has been classy and hes the face of the lakers, so idk if bynum and odom being losers makes the lakers a goon team AT THIS DAY. today ron gasol kobe were classy... and those are the only ones i dont want to trade...
also: almost as disappointed in lamars and bynums comments about it as the action itself. they need to be out of here.. give us curry or howard!
HighFlyer23
05-09-2011, 04:18 AM
Today? Sure.
But everyone knew the Lakers would teak cheap shots if they were down in this series. And it happened three times. Just a bunch of sore losers.
As for Kobe?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTWMVCJnG0
Go to 1:20....not like he's above taking cheap shots.
Kobe talkin out his @ss again in that press conference :roll: :roll:
Doomsday Dallas
05-09-2011, 04:23 AM
http://sports.espn.go.com/los-angeles/nba/news/story?id=6509618
Reasoning is because "we were getting embarrassed, and that's what happens"
I like that response... because it's the truth.
props to Bynum for keeping it real.
The guy was getting embarrassed... and he did something stupid
out of the pure agonizing frustration that he must of been feeling.
I can forgive Bynum.
BTW... When he took off his jersey he looked like the Incredible Hulk.
MFer is one big black guy... I didn't know he was that built.
(was at the game yesterday)
BarberSchool
05-09-2011, 04:23 AM
Plus they had Matt Barnes on the bench, and Derek Fisher can play dirty too.
They would have given the '90s Knicks a run for their money.Not even close. The 90's Knicks would slaughter rule the 2011 Lake Show in any goon/toughman/gangfight/flagrant-fouling contest.
imlmf
05-09-2011, 04:33 AM
Actually from where Im standing, this proves equally why Kobe haters are just as pathetic as Kobe's fans.
Sitting around hurling insults at eachother, and random various gif wars, is pretty juvenile shit.
And as far as Bynum goes...It wasnt a "highlight" of the game for me. It just made the loss even more embarrassing. Just my opinion though.
What does what I said have to do with "kobe hating"?
OP was saying what bynum did was a good thing, he might have severely injured Barea
learn to comprehend
:facepalm
DMAVS41
05-09-2011, 04:35 AM
im talking about today and this series. kobe has been classy and hes the face of the lakers, so idk if bynum and odom being losers makes the lakers a goon team AT THIS DAY. today ron gasol kobe were classy... and those are the only ones i dont want to trade...
also: almost as disappointed in lamars and bynums comments about it as the action itself. they need to be out of here.. give us curry or howard!
I have no problem with Kobe or Fisher or Gasol or any player that didn't do anything.
However, when you get your ass kicked and then take cheap shots....its bush league.
And when it happens three times by three different players, it reflects poorly on the Lakers team. Just the way it goes.
I don't see much leadership on this Lakers team from the coaches or players. Which is sad, because Phil Jackson is arguably the greatest coach ever and Fisher is one of the best leaders in the league in my opinion.
Not sure what happened, but the Lakers should be ashamed of how they played and how they acted.
HighFlyer23
05-09-2011, 04:43 AM
Fisher hit on Scola, Kobe elbowing Artest, Odumb and Bynums f@ggot b!tch moves .. truly an admirable team :lol
RazorBaLade
05-09-2011, 04:51 AM
I have no problem with Kobe or Fisher or Gasol or any player that didn't do anything.
However, when you get your ass kicked and then take cheap shots....its bush league.
And when it happens three times by three different players, it reflects poorly on the Lakers team. Just the way it goes.
I don't see much leadership on this Lakers team from the coaches or players. Which is sad, because Phil Jackson is arguably the greatest coach ever and Fisher is one of the best leaders in the league in my opinion.
Not sure what happened, but the Lakers should be ashamed of how they played and how they acted.
cool, i agree.
my take, just based on the comments we've seen from players on this series:
Barnes is crazy unlike ron's lovable crazy, no one liked him. Blake mute as hell, no one even knew he was there.
Bynum didn't trust that kobe could be their #1, wanted the ball more. Got into odoms head and odom started believing that he needs to be more than a tough rebounder. Gasol and bynum both went away from trying to rebound, especially bynum ,because he just wanted the ball more and thought the other lakers werent good enough.
obvious kobe and gasol disagreement.
bigs showed 0 trust in guards defense. just total lack of trust and chemistry, odom and bynum thinking they need to be more than just defensive minded rebounders which was wrong.
all that adds up , man. But hey if anyone was to beat la I would seriously rather have the mavs do it..... its fitting. and la is not dead we just bring some new blood and we right back in it.
Hittin_Shots
05-09-2011, 04:51 AM
I would be pissed too if I saw a guard penetrating easily for the 500th time these playoffs. He is playing big, I agree with what he did I just think he should have concealed it a little better like maybe body him to the floor instead of throwing the elbow.
This is the reason why the NBA has gotten so weak nowadays, back in the day that is a foul and nothing more just like it should be.
Really?
brownmamba00
05-09-2011, 04:58 AM
He's been my fav laker in these playoffs
Keep Drew please, he's still the only player who showed up and showed some heart
Hittin_Shots
05-09-2011, 04:58 AM
Colby Brian is a moron..
I hoped he'd be gone after this but it seems to have only fuelled his stupidity.
DMAVS41
05-09-2011, 05:02 AM
cool, i agree.
my take, just based on the comments we've seen from players on this series:
Barnes is crazy unlike ron's lovable crazy, no one liked him. Blake mute as hell, no one even knew he was there.
Bynum didn't trust that kobe could be their #1, wanted the ball more. Got into odoms head and odom started believing that he needs to be more than a tough rebounder. Gasol and bynum both went away from trying to rebound, especially bynum ,because he just wanted the ball more and thought the other lakers werent good enough.
obvious kobe and gasol disagreement.
bigs showed 0 trust in guards defense. just total lack of trust and chemistry, odom and bynum thinking they need to be more than just defensive minded rebounders which was wrong.
all that adds up , man. But hey if anyone was to beat la I would seriously rather have the mavs do it..... its fitting. and la is not dead we just bring some new blood and we right back in it.
Yea. One of Gasol or Bynum has to go. Now that Bynum has clearly improved and reached another level in play and confidence, there simply isn't room for Kobe/Gasol/Bynum....it won't work.
The Lakers are in a tough spot though. If the new CBA has a hard cap there really isn't much they can do other than make some huge trades....and its going to be hard to add the "new blood"
Kobe/Artest/Walton/Bynum/Odom/Gasol all make a lot of money and are on the books for the next few years.
There is not a lot of wiggle room if a hard cap exists.
RazorBaLade
05-09-2011, 05:06 AM
We just gotta get Steph Curry level player, or go all out and get CP3 or Howard. I think for Kobe's ego howard would be the toughest to accept to LA, but if thats the only option left I think Kobe understands he isn't gonna have a chance to win more rings and will have to suck it up.
I don't see what the hard cap has to do with anything if we make the trades before the new season? When does the CBA have to be decided?
Also IDK the truth to this, but I am gonna go out on a limb and say that these numbers gasol has put up...... These are gasol numbers when bynum is dominant. Thinking back to when bynum was rolling this year, and those months of 20-10 he had, pau always faded easily. He's not the guy who will fight for touches, sure hes super passive but he IS getting the ball outside of the paint while bynum is in the paint. Its interesting. I would not be surprised if that was the problem... But pau DID say there was a personal problem off the court, so idk.
DMAVS41
05-09-2011, 05:12 AM
We just gotta get Steph Curry level player, or go all out and get CP3 or Howard. I think for Kobe's ego howard would be the toughest to accept to LA, but if thats the only option left I think Kobe understands he isn't gonna have a chance to win more rings and will have to suck it up.
I don't see what the hard cap has to do with anything if we make the trades before the new season? When does the CBA have to be decided?
The trades would be fine....although it depends on when a lockout would occur.
I'm talking about adding more pieces around them. Its going to be hard to get this "new blood" in if there is a hard cap. You can't trade artest and walton without giving up some of the better players as well.
And you guys are stuck with Blake for a while as well.
That was my point. Its going to have to be big trades. Its not like you can move Artest/Walton and get curry or some other solid young player.
Unless of course a team just freely gives up an elite player for pennies on the dollar like the Gasol trade....hell, its happened before. So maybe its possible.
RazorBaLade
05-09-2011, 05:19 AM
i dont think blake deserves to be in the NBA let alone the lakers if he cant take dinofishers starting spot away in an 82 game season.
but yea, that sucks. i dont mind artest staying. walton/brown/blake/barnes, even if we give up 2 of those as fillers for big trades we'd have 1 spot for a nice MLE guy. i think my ideal move is curry and wright to LA. but maybe it will be like 08 and we end up with someone we didnt even suspect. gonna be a beast summer.
DMAVS41
05-09-2011, 05:20 AM
i dont think blake deserves to be in the NBA let alone the lakers if he cant take dinofishers starting spot away in an 82 game season.
but yea, that sucks. i dont mind artest staying. walton/brown/blake/barnes, even if we give up 2 of those as fillers for big trades we'd have 1 spot for a nice MLE guy. i think my ideal move is curry and wright to LA.
but that is the problem. there might not be a MLE in the next CBA.
I'm sure the Lakers will come up with something, but its not going to be nearly as easy with the lockout upcoming.
Prodigy
05-09-2011, 05:22 AM
Meh, he has what's coming to him.
comerb
05-09-2011, 05:52 AM
why was Barea trying to take it to the hoop up by 30 in the 4th quarter?
if you want to stat pad and show up your opponent, u need to face the consequences
I didn't realize playing basketball was an offense. If he wants to do something then reject the ball like a man instead of taking a cheapshot like a two-bit pu$$y
Carmeloo15
05-09-2011, 06:06 AM
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:
PHILA
05-09-2011, 06:10 AM
That's a Clyde Lovellette-esque move. You gotta make a foul like that count in the game/series. I hated the timing more than anything.
derb2k2
05-09-2011, 06:53 AM
this mutherf*cker is dirty. they should suspend him for the first half of the next season. the one on Beasley and Barrea are disgusting to watch.
Lebron23
05-09-2011, 07:14 AM
Classless Bynum.
JohnnySic
05-09-2011, 07:39 AM
Just gave him a little love tap. Nothing to see here; move along.
brownmamba00
05-09-2011, 07:58 AM
Just gave him a little love tap. Nothing to see here; move along.
:oldlol:
kurple
05-09-2011, 08:07 AM
he's not even thinking about the ball
Dragonyeuw
05-09-2011, 08:10 AM
This crap about running up the score is ridiculous. What was Dallas supposed to do, deliberately start missing?
Bynum, the biggest guy on the floor, picked the smallest guy on the floor to cheapshot. Only blind loyalists can defend this, it was a punk-ass ***** move, end of....
PaPaK
05-09-2011, 08:21 AM
what a ****ing dirty ****, that should be a 10 game ban minimum, couldve broken his neck
PaPaK
05-09-2011, 08:26 AM
dirty c u n t. deserves a massive ban and a fine
Rake2204
05-09-2011, 08:30 AM
are you pretending to be this stupid or are you really this stupid in real life?
The mavs were playing their game and the lakers were sucking bad. Yea, that was embarrassing. It should be embarrassing to the lakers. You know what running up the score even means? It has nothing to do with playing hard or getting quality shots. It just means the team is deliberately trying to get more points than they would have otherwise playing their normal game. The mavs were just playing their normal game. Regardless, if someone is trying to embarrass you within the limits of the game, then you try to do the same. The key is within the limits of the game. If you can't, then go sit your a$$ on the bench. Also, many of us who've watched the mavs for a while have seen the mavs blow a 27 point lead to the lakers IN THE 4th QUARTER.
Also, the lakers had 3 of their starters still in the game. You want to concede the game? get your starters out.
Lastly, you are a complete idiot when saying that someone shouldn't btch or act like a victim when someone tries injure you. If you have someone trying to embarrass you legally, then you try to embarrass them legally. You sound like a child and an idiot for trying to justify what bynum did. There is ZERO % justification of what bynum did. How the hell are you suggesting that it was Barea's fault that he got knocked down? Are you really suggesting that the Mavs should just not try to score with almost 9 mins remaining in the game?
Well, now you might say that if Barea can do whatever he wants and embarrass the lakers, then they can do the same. You're right. They can embarrass the mavs. But not by being a coward and knocking someone down WITHOUT EVEN MAKING A PLAY ON THE BALL. That's cowardly. Anyone who justifies his actions are bigger cowards.
All that being said, Bynum was obviously very frustrated. It must have been frustrating to play your heart out, only to see perimeter players being incapable of keeping their man in front of them, and others not helping him out when he rotates. People do stupid things when they are frustrated and feel helpless. I'm sure he felt that way and just wanted to hurt someone from the mavs for doing that to him. I understand that. But it was still 100% wrong on his part to do it. It's even worse for people who had nothing to do with the game to justify it. I feel bad for you if you really feel that what Bynum did was justified. I'm sure you would be singing the same tune if someone from your team was seriously injured because your opponent was embarrassed.
Minus the slight labeling and namecalling, I agree with the premise of your post. It can be understood why Andrew Bynum did what he did, but it does not make it any less unexcuseable.
Has all the fans who are defending this forgot about Bynum puncturing G. Wallace's lung? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbcjL7AVxMA
What Bynum did to Barea is inexcusable, especially considering he has seriously injured somebody doing this in the past and had not learned his lesson. If this were a first time offense, I'd say 5 game suspension. But given that he has had multiple times doing this, including sending somebody to the hospital, I think he deserves a longer suspension that should teach him how truly bad this was. Its a shame too. I really wanted to like Bynum, but this action and the lack of remorse has solidified my dislike for the guy.
Another solid point. I do not find it to be coincidence that Bynum just happened to take out three different airborne players in the same fashion while not making a play on the ball. I find that to be a pattern. Typically, I'd say "Sure, it's all fine and good now, but what happens when that type of play injures someone?" However, as we know, that's already happened. Bynum punctured a man's lung on a similar maneuver.
I'm having a hard time deciding when that move would ever be acceptable. Even in the 80's and 90's, that type of play was not acceptable. Kurt Rambis did not just accept being clotheslined. The Pistons didn't just let Isiah take an elbow to the head and move on and Bob Hill wasn't cool with Elden Campbell taking down The Admiral. It can be fun to glamorize the past but even back then, this wouldn't have been "just a foul". The danger these plays provide is the reason rules have been tightened so much in the first place.
FinishHim!
05-09-2011, 08:31 AM
I would be pissed too if I saw a guard penetrating easily for the 500th time these playoffs. He is playing big, I agree with what he did I just think he should have concealed it a little better like maybe body him to the floor instead of throwing the elbow.
This is the reason why the NBA has gotten so weak nowadays, back in the day that is a foul and nothing more just like it should be.
People keep saying that as if it's normal to clip a dude out of the air. Playing HARD and playing DIRTY are two different things. Back in the day, what someone would've gotten away with was meeting the dude in the air, giving him a hard foul and knocking him to the ground. All hell would've broken lose if someone just elbowed a guy in the ribs who's already airborn because he's pissed about losing.
PHILA
05-09-2011, 08:32 AM
This is the reason why the NBA has gotten so weak nowadays, back in the day that is a foul and nothing more just like it should be.:no:
These are good hard playoff fouls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2PJ8j14MFA#t=3m11s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z70rGJh9WbQ#t=10m44s
http://i.imgur.com/1MQEI.png
Grey Dawn
05-09-2011, 08:43 AM
Respect? As a player, and in terms of how he played and his effort I respect that. But I don't respect his attitude in the least. He's just a spoiled little kid really who acts out when he doesn't get what he want and shows no remorse for his actions.
Yes, exactly this. Little bitty bratty Bynum.
Grey Dawn
05-09-2011, 08:44 AM
10 game suspension
Dragonyeuw
05-09-2011, 08:44 AM
That wasn't a good hard playoff foul. A 7 foot, 280 lb guy elbowing a 5 foot whatever player in the ribs whilst airborne, at a point when the game was decided, wasn't a good playoff foul. There was no attempt to make a play for the ball, in fact Bynum wasn't even looking at the ball when he threw out his arm. It was a cheap shot, end of... same as Artest clocking the same Barea at the end of game 2, same as Odom pushing Dirk at the end of yesterday's game. It says 'I'm a spoiled champion who wants all the respect and accolades when I win, but can't take it when I get my ass legitimately handed to me.'
Punks, plain and simple.
Grey Dawn
05-09-2011, 08:48 AM
It says 'I'm a spoiled champion who wants all the respect and accolades when I win, but can't take it when I get my ass legitimately handed to me.'
Punks, plain and simple.
Exactly.
Keith
05-09-2011, 08:51 AM
why was Barea trying to take it to the hoop up by 30 in the 4th quarter?
if you want to stat pad and show up your opponent, u need to face the consequences
This.
BigTicket
05-09-2011, 08:55 AM
Bynum should be suspended for at least 2 games.
That foul was dangerous, and showed that he's a sore loser with no class at all.
FinishHim!
05-09-2011, 08:55 AM
Check out the kind of foul Kobe and the Lakers call bloody murder for. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJtwowSFoH0&feature=related
Now instead of something like that, imagine fisher in the air for a layup getting laid out with an elbow to the ribs by Haywood. The uproar of the Laker players and fans would be unheard of.
Dragonyeuw
05-09-2011, 08:58 AM
Oh ok, so Barea was supposed to stop driving to the hole. The Mavs were supposed to stop shooting and let the shot-clock run out for the entire 4th quarter.....
How about the Lakers step up their defense? Oh...they couldn't.... so take the easy road out. Just start cheap-shoting the Mavs because they couldn't do anything else. Push Dirk aside Odom, since you can't stop him from doing anything he wanted to all series long. Classy......
I fear for humanity.....
Dasher
05-09-2011, 09:01 AM
Im a 90s baby, but please name one team with mo goonies than these BOSS Angeles Lakers
Bad Boy Pistons
O'Neal-Artest Pacers
Melo-Iverson Nuggets
Bird's Celtics
Ewing's Knicks
Coked Up Early Jordan Bulls
Jailblazers
The Laker's goon status is diminished by Pau having playing poorly because of problems with his b*tch.
Hittin_Shots
05-09-2011, 09:02 AM
This.
Are u the same guy under a different name? I just don't see how two people could agree on such a retarded statement.
STATUTORY
05-09-2011, 09:18 AM
Oh ok, so Barea was supposed to stop driving to the hole. The Mavs were supposed to stop shooting and let the shot-clock run out for the entire 4th quarter.....
How about the Lakers step up their defense? Oh...they couldn't.... so take the easy road out. Just start cheap-shoting the Mavs because they couldn't do anything else. Push Dirk aside Odom, since you can't stop him from doing anything he wanted to all series long. Classy......
I fear for humanity.....
no one's saying they should stop shooting. but you are beating the lakers by 30 with 9 mins left, tayou know they are frustrated, and you still want to embarrassing them by talking trash and finishing strong at the hoop? well what do you expect to happen?
play with fire then act all innocent when you get burnt. :confusedshrug:
and we gonna act like hard fouls are not part of the game now?
Hittin_Shots
05-09-2011, 09:31 AM
no one's saying they should stop shooting. but you are beating the lakers by 30 with 9 mins left, tayou know they are frustrated, and you still want to embarrassing them by talking trash and finishing strong at the hoop? well what do you expect to happen?
play with fire then act all innocent when you get burnt. :confusedshrug:
and we gonna act like hard fouls are not part of the game now?
Hard fouls where they make some play on the ball are part of the game, elbowing people when he probably cud have blocked him is a ***** move that deserves suspension. 9 minutes is a long time if u don't score. U have no idea what kinda trash he was talking, Bynum's explanation had nothing to do with trash talking. Why are u still defending him, he didn't even defend himself. Finishing strong at the rim? Why wud anyone not drive that lane when given it?
blacknapalm
05-09-2011, 09:39 AM
Bad Boy Pistons
O'Neal-Artest Pacers
Melo-Iverson Nuggets
Bird's Celtics
Ewing's Knicks
Coked Up Early Jordan Bulls
Jailblazers
The Laker's goon status is diminished by Pau having playing poorly because of problems with his b*tch.
:lol there's some truth to that, but it still presents funny images in my mind.
that said, it was a classless move in today's NBA. in the 80s, this would have been an ejection and one-two game suspension. hell, i'm not even positive there would be a susp. take this from an LA fan. i'm disappointed but let's not say it's the worst thing we've ever seen. it's not like he went full force. STILL, he deserves a 5-10 game suspension. he got two games for the beasley incident. he was frustrated barea was getting in the paint so much but it was uncalled for. i don't like barea but you can't do that. not today. nothing further needs to be said and most people are calling for a suspension, both fans of the game and media. i'm not trying to compare, but it's weird to me how wade's situation with rondo isn't even being questioned in the mainstream.
Dragonyeuw
05-09-2011, 09:42 AM
no one's saying they should stop shooting. but you are beating the lakers by 30 with 9 mins left, tayou know they are frustrated, and you still want to embarrassing them by talking trash and finishing strong at the hoop? well what do you expect to happen?
play with fire then act all innocent when you get burnt. :confusedshrug:
and we gonna act like hard fouls are not part of the game now?
So, what they should they do? Stop driving? Stop finishing strong at the hoop? Exactly what were the Mavericks supposed to do in this scenario? Trash-talking is as old as the game itself, and it's normally a 2-way street.
We gonna act like a cheap shot from a big 7 footer to someone half his size is a part of the game now? Defending the indefensible.....:rolleyes:
Yep...fearing for humanity....
STATUTORY
05-09-2011, 09:42 AM
Hard fouls where they make some play on the ball are part of the game, elbowing people when he probably cud have blocked him is a ***** move that deserves suspension. 9 minutes is a long time if u don't score. U have no idea what kinda trash he was talking, Bynum's explanation had nothing to do with trash talking. Why are u still defending him, he didn't even defend himself. Finishing strong at the rim? Why wud anyone not drive that lane when given it?
I'm saying the samething Bynum's saying. It is what it is. It's part of the game it was very predictable what was going to happen. Barea should have known the risks.
nba is getting really soft. in the 80s the media wouldn't have made a huge deal out of this.
Dragonyeuw
05-09-2011, 09:49 AM
I'm saying the samething Bynum's saying. It is what it is. It's part of the game it was very predictable what was going to happen. Barea should have known the risks.
So why didn't Bynum make a play for the ball? He wasn't trying to, because he had no interest in making a basketball play. He was merely interested in venting his frustration on someone too small to likely come back at him. So, cheap shot the smallest on-court guy while he's in the air, leading to all kinds of injury scenarios because you can't stop them otherwise.
Defending the indefensible......
AfroSamurai
05-09-2011, 09:51 AM
Bynum can give an ass whoopin but he can't take it. I call people like that what they are sore losers, nobody likes that type of player. Odom lost his composers as well. It shows a real lack of professionalism. You got your ass whipped LA deal with it. You got out played and out coached. You sucked.:cry:
This is great for Dallas, it helps Jet and Dirk forget the pain of 06. I hope they make it to the finals. I think this is Dirk's year.
FireDavidKahn
05-09-2011, 09:54 AM
Bynum is the biggest ***** in the NBA now
ballup
05-09-2011, 09:54 AM
I'm saying the samething Bynum's saying. It is what it is. It's part of the game it was very predictable what was going to happen. Barea should have known the risks.
nba is getting really soft. in the 80s the media wouldn't have made a huge deal out of this.
Or maybe Bynum should have conducted himself like a true champion and play the game instead of venting his frustration on a smaller guy.
Rake2204
05-09-2011, 09:59 AM
The idea that a team is expected to stop attacking the hoop strong with 8 minutes remaining unless they want to be dangerously fouled while airborne is laughable. As a player I'd be even more offended if my opponent stopped going hard for an entire quarter.
I believe the reason we take plays like Bynum's more seriously nowadays is because over time, we as players, coaches, owners, and fans realized maybe it wasn't a good idea to let defenders eliminate airborne human beings as they please. As if someone said, "Hey you know what? In hindsight, maybe we should try a little harder to prevent injuries to our players."
Darius
05-09-2011, 10:07 AM
This thread seperating the men from the boys.
The boys being the ones yuk-yuk-yuking about a b;tch move from a 7 footer to a guy who is 5 foot nothing.
Mrofir
05-09-2011, 10:08 AM
This is as defining of an issue I've seen on ISH.
Anybody who condones Bynum's foul is in one group.
Anybody who understands just how low that "play" was is in another group.
First group of people, just go the F away.. go try that in your rec league sometime when you're down by 30 and you'll find yourself arrested
blacknapalm
05-09-2011, 10:09 AM
as i said, it was a classless move. moving on, i just don't want it to reflect the whole team. barea said kobe and some other lakers checked up on him after the game and apologized for the cheap shot. the rest of the lakers handled this pretty well. it's one thing to like bynum's passion but he crossed the line. i think odom just got caught up in the moment but bynum's was far worse.
Rake2204
05-09-2011, 10:14 AM
as i said, it was a classless move. that said, i just don't want it to reflect the whole team. barea said kobe and some other lakers checked up on him after the game and apologized for the cheap shot. the rest of the lakers handled this pretty well. it's one thing to like bynum's passion but he crossed the line. i think odom just got caught up in the moment but bynum's was far worse.
I'm with you there. I think those who are reasonable recognize Bynum's play was not some sort of group plan on the part of the Lakers' organization. I'm sure they were all frustrated, but they all wouldn't condone Bynum's actions.
az00m
05-09-2011, 10:28 AM
who cares!!! Lakers got swept.
Kobe tell me how my ass taste by shaq
www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtbilFAG7ac
tell me how shaq's ass taste on their way out when miami beats them.
FireDavidKahn
05-09-2011, 10:30 AM
as i said, it was a classless move. moving on, i just don't want it to reflect the whole team. barea said kobe and some other lakers checked up on him after the game and apologized for the cheap shot. the rest of the lakers handled this pretty well. it's one thing to like bynum's passion but he crossed the line. i think odom just got caught up in the moment but bynum's was far worse.
How can we move on when Bynum has a history of using this exact same cheap shot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbcjL7AVxMA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU7RiLERJ-Y&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFiU0gODLxQ
Bynum is a phony and a fake tough guy.
glidedrxlr22
05-09-2011, 10:32 AM
Bynum is a cheap shot sack of sh!t. Can't stand that arrogant pr!ck. It is what it is?! OK, then it's a cheap shot you piece of sh!t!
Dragonyeuw
05-09-2011, 10:33 AM
barea said kobe and some other lakers checked up on him after the game and apologized for the cheap shot.
Which proves that even the OTHER Lakers saw it as a low move. Otherwise would they have done that? Likely not....
blacknapalm
05-09-2011, 10:34 AM
How can we move on when Bynum has a history of using this exact same cheap shot?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbcjL7AVxMA&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VU7RiLERJ-Y&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFiU0gODLxQ
Bynum is a phony and a fake tough guy.
i just said he should be suspended 5-10 games minimum. continue on your crusade, sir....
Mrofir
05-09-2011, 10:41 AM
Which proves that even the OTHER Lakers saw it as a low move. Otherwise would they have done that? Likely not....
which is weird because if you go back into the reg season where bynum takes out beasley (or gwallace) the entire lakers team stares down beasley and comes to bynum's defense.
And that is why
I'm glad the Lakers were CRUSHED beyond repair
im not going to say the lakers were involved in any sort of team wide conspiracy, but to act like making mention of it absolves the rest of the team for their pattern of arrogant behavior would be unreasonable as well. That said, Bynum is definitely on a diff level. But where did he learn it from?
Lakers overall were arrogant beyond measure and they deserved to be embarrassed. Bynum deserves 10 games minimum
Odom eh fine him
Dragonyeuw
05-09-2011, 10:44 AM
which is weird because if you go back into the reg season where bynum takes out beasley (or gwallace) the entire lakers team stares down beasley and comes to bynum's defense.
And that is why
I'm glad the Lakers were CRUSHED beyond repair
im not going to say the lakers were involved in any sort of team wide conspiracy, but to act like making mention of it absolves the rest of the team for their pattern of arrogant behavior would be unreasonable as well. That said, Bynum is definitely on a diff level. But where did he learn it from?
Lakers overall were arrogant beyond measure and they deserved to be embarrassed. Bynum deserves 10 games minimum
Odom eh fine him
No argument from me, sir.....:cheers:
Rake2204
05-09-2011, 10:47 AM
Clearly, I don't like the play Bynum made at all. But I do think the 80's/90's card is being overplayed a little bit. Their tough reputations are becoming a bit mythic. Not every flagrant foul or tough foul occured in close games. Not all flagrants were "clean" and officials didn't just call Bynum's type of play a routine foul.
Even with all things considered, the NBA surely was a little looser on the punishments, I can admit that. To what degree, that can be debated a little bit and I think that's the portion that might be getting carried away. The reason we have the rules we have now is a direct result of the consequences stemming from the way the game was called and played in the 80's and 90's.
To take it a step further, I've read and heard that players who attempted to dunk in the 50's and 60's were intentionally submarined. Obviously, I can't confirm that, but if that idea were true, that sort of reaffirms my point that sometimes we have to move away from plays like that for the general improvement of the game. Players should not have to play the game with the fear they may be injured if they try to do something too good.
Brickz187
05-09-2011, 10:49 AM
Sure what Bynum did was sucka ish, but hes young and I'm sure the way his team was getting slapped around really pissed him off. A MAN would be able to suck it up and keep playing, but Bynum is not a man, he's a boy and he showed just why no team should even consider taking him as a number 1 option, ever, especially the Magic. Bynum is right though, it is what it is. You can't change what happened and it's all done with anyways. Hes going to get some type of backlash for it from Stern and move on like the rest of us should.
pegasus
05-09-2011, 10:52 AM
It was definitely inexcusable. Bynum could have easily ended Barea's career, and then the league would have banned him from playing basketball for the rest of his life.
I think the league should give him at least a 20-game ban. This is a good opportunity to send a message to all players. They don't need to wait until someone's career is actually cut short due to an immature and animalistic act like that.
Odom also needs some kind of punishment, because it wasn't his first time (see the Clippers loss). He needs to learn how to lose a game while keeping his sportsmanship. BTW, the Lakers are my second favorite team, so I'm not just being hateful.
ILLsmak
05-09-2011, 10:54 AM
Honestly I was spending a lot of time realizing how good Bynum is in the post. His post game used to be wack but now he's actually getting moves to the rim and using great footwork.
I don't think that foul is a horrible foul. If he wanted to do that in game 1 then that's better. But the fact that he did that when they had already lost really makes him look like a *****.
Like DeShawn said: When people get frustrated it shows their true character.
That foul by Lamar was chippy but nowhere near the one that Andrew did. Especially because he did it on some little tiny dude and just laid him out when he was at his highest point.
-Smak
DJ Leon Smith
05-09-2011, 10:54 AM
I'd love it if Bynum was suspended for a record amount of games, and when the Lakers/Bynum/Player's Association complains Stern just says "it is what it is".
Funnyfuka
05-09-2011, 10:55 AM
lakers were under so much pressure...medias pressure, crowd pressure...the feeling that it was the beginning of the end for the franchise too... bynum even said that there were some prolbems between the players themselves...(with the coach?)
Imagine being harassed by some midget at this point, with all that pressure, and that very same midget running at you trying to score blatantly starting a duel with you right after he insulted you...
Everyone got what he deserved imo.
People only judge what they see, not what they didnt see. If barrea was making fun of bynum, tauting him or anything, he deserved to be put in his place. It's easy to beat a dead horse, barrea obviously enjoyed the suffering shown by the lakers players. Bynum thought it was a shity attitude from such a little man, that he shoudl have shown more respect, and taught him respect.
In the end Bynum got punished, barea got punished, justice s been administered to both parties.
And you know what?
PEOPLE LOVE TO SEE THAT KIND OF SHIT, SINCE THE EXISTENCE OF MANKIND. Let's not be hypocritical here, it's human nature. People pay to watch other people get angry, hate on each others, and do nasty things to each others. A long time ago it was in coliseums, nowadays it's on a basketball court.
I absolutely do not like the attitude of terry and barea, and even kidd. They are assholes. Lakers have always been a lot more respectful. Odom , bynum and artest just doing their job, kobe if an obsessive nerd / prima donna has always stayed respectful, gasol wouldht hurt a fly.
Mavs players are assholes and they ll get served wether they face okc or grizzlies who are both tough physical young...assholes.
ILLsmak
05-09-2011, 10:58 AM
lakers were under so much pressure...medias pressure, crowd pressure...the feeling that it was the beginning of the end for the franchise too...
Imagine being harassed by some midget at this point, with all that pressure, and that very same midget running at you trying to score blatantly starting a duel with you right after he insulted you...
Everyone got what he deserved imo.
People only judge what they see, not what they didnt see. If barrea was making fun of bynum, tauting him or anything, he deserved to be put in his place. Bynum got punished, barea got punished, justice s been administered to both parties.
And you know what?
PEOPLE LOVE TO SEE THAT KIND OF SHIT, SINCE THE EXISTENCE OF MANKIND. Let's not be hypocritical here, it's human nature. People pay to watch other people get angry, hate on each others, and do nasty things to each others. A long time ago it was in coliseums, nowadays it's on a basketball court.
I dunno about all that. IT would have been fine if they were similar in height, but I guess the Lakers go home and Mavs advance. And JJ was clowning them even if he didn't make fun of him.
Putting a body on someone is good but doing that is not. Even Shaq's flagrant on Stuckey was cleaner than what Bynum did...
-Smak
pete's montreux
05-09-2011, 10:59 AM
I don't see a problem with the play at all. It was a flagrant, he got ejected. Maybe he'll serve a suspension at the beginning of next season, who knows.
That's playoff basketball. Sure, wrong place, wrong time, but if that foul was given in game three, I even have less of a problem with it. The only bad choice by Bynum was his timing. That kind of play is much better served when you're not down by 200 and about to get swept.
artest 93
05-09-2011, 11:01 AM
lakers were under so much pressure...medias pressure, crowd pressure...the feeling that it was the beginning of the end for the franchise too...
Imagine being harassed by some midget at this point, with all that pressure, and that very same midget running at you trying to score blatantly starting a duel with you right after he insulted you...
Everyone got what he deserved imo.
People only judge what they see, not what they didnt see. If barrea was making fun of bynum, tauting him or anything, he deserved to be put in his place. It's easy to beat a dead horse, barrea obviously enjoyed the suffering shown by the lakers players. Bynum thought it was a shity attitude from such a little man, that he shoudl have shown more respect, and taught him respect.
In the end Bynum got punished, barea got punished, justice s been administered to both parties.
And you know what?
PEOPLE LOVE TO SEE THAT KIND OF SHIT, SINCE THE EXISTENCE OF MANKIND. Let's not be hypocritical here, it's human nature. People pay to watch other people get angry, hate on each others, and do nasty things to each others. A long time ago it was in coliseums, nowadays it's on a basketball court.
I absolutely do not like the attitude of terry and barea, and even kidd. They are assholes. Lakers have always been a lot more respectful. Odom , bynum and artest just doing their job, kobe if an obsessive nerd / prima donna has always stayed respectful, gasol wouldht hurt a fly.
Mavs players are assholes and they ll get served wether they face okc or grizzlies who are both tough physical young...assholes.
Guaranteed Laker troll here. :roll:
Incredibly dumb. There is no other answer.
Floppy
05-09-2011, 11:05 AM
I'm saying the samething Bynum's saying. It is what it is. It's part of the game it was very predictable what was going to happen. Barea should have known the risks.
nba is getting really soft. in the 80s the media wouldn't have made a huge deal out of this.
Yeah that's how every series in the 80s ended. The losing team always tried to injure a player when the series was decided. It was common courtesy.
Do you feel like a traitor when you have to criticise your own team or are you mentally ill?
Funnyfuka
05-09-2011, 11:06 AM
Guaranteed Laker troll here. :roll:
Incredibly dumb. There is no other answer.
sorry you re the only retard here; i do not support the lakers nor the mavs. I stated a lot of times on here that i was sick of seeing the lakers in finals and that it was time for some change. I do not like the mavs either because of terry and kidd who are pompous assholes imo. Dirk is a class act, but is surrounded by assholes.
Here goes your argument. I just attempted to share a more balanced thought on the whole thing saying there werent good or bad guys and that you need to take the whole thing into consideration before making a judgment.
The real lesson to be learnt here is that thanks to the system, the rules, everyone s been put in his place, and this is what is truly great, fair, and balanced.
Barrea deserved this - bynum is a big slow immature kid, whoever attempts to portray him as a thug/bully is a moron - and bynum deserved the fine and everything else that might follow.
pete's montreux
05-09-2011, 11:06 AM
A personal foul might've been called in the 80's. People have been punched square in the face and no foul was called on the play in the 80's.
Hittin_Shots
05-09-2011, 11:13 AM
lakers were under so much pressure...medias pressure, crowd pressure...the feeling that it was the beginning of the end for the franchise too... bynum even said that there were some prolbems between the players themselves...(with the coach?)
Imagine being harassed by some midget at this point, with all that pressure, and that very same midget running at you trying to score blatantly starting a duel with you right after he insulted you...
Everyone got what he deserved imo.
People only judge what they see, not what they didnt see. If barrea was making fun of bynum, tauting him or anything, he deserved to be put in his place. It's easy to beat a dead horse, barrea obviously enjoyed the suffering shown by the lakers players. Bynum thought it was a shity attitude from such a little man, that he shoudl have shown more respect, and taught him respect.
In the end Bynum got punished, barea got punished, justice s been administered to both parties.
And you know what?
PEOPLE LOVE TO SEE THAT KIND OF SHIT, SINCE THE EXISTENCE OF MANKIND. Let's not be hypocritical here, it's human nature. People pay to watch other people get angry, hate on each others, and do nasty things to each others. A long time ago it was in coliseums, nowadays it's on a basketball court.
I absolutely do not like the attitude of terry and barea, and even kidd. They are assholes. Lakers have always been a lot more respectful. Odom , bynum and artest just doing their job, kobe if an obsessive nerd / prima donna has always stayed respectful, gasol wouldht hurt a fly.
Mavs players are assholes and they ll get served wether they face okc or grizzlies who are both tough physical young...assholes.
Is barea yelling this stuff across the court, coz when is he matched up against Bynum? Sounds more like ur just saying what u think of the people without any evidence.
Floppy
05-09-2011, 11:13 AM
It was definitely inexcusable. Bynum could have easily ended Barea's career, and then the league would have banned him from playing basketball for the rest of his life.
I think the league should give him at least a 20-game ban. This is a good opportunity to send a message to all players. They don't need to wait until someone's career is actually cut short due to an immature and animalistic act like that.
Odom also needs some kind of punishment, because it wasn't his first time (see the Clippers loss). He needs to learn how to lose a game while keeping his sportsmanship. BTW, the Lakers are my second favorite team, so I'm not just being hateful.
I don't mind Odom's foul tbh. He was frustrated so he hip checked a player. No biggie. But considering Odom just got ejected with the refs intention to calm the players down it made Bynum's reaction even more ridiculous.
Hittin_Shots
05-09-2011, 11:14 AM
sorry you re the only retard here; i do not support the lakers nor the mavs. I stated a lot of times on here that i was sick of seeing the lakers in finals and that it was time for some change. I do not like the mavs either because of terry and kidd who are pompous assholes imo. Dirk is a class act, but is surrounded by assholes.
Here goes your argument. I just attempted to share a more balanced thought on the whole thing saying there werent good or bad guys and that you need to take the whole thing into consideration before making a judgment.
The real lesson to be learnt here is that thanks to the system, the rules, everyone s been put in his place, and this is what is truly great, fair, and balanced.
Barrea deserved this - bynum is a big slow immature kid, whoever attempts to portray him as a thug/bully is a moron - and bynum deserved the fine and everything else that might follow.
You keep saying barrea deserved it but under what grounds?
Mrofir
05-09-2011, 11:20 AM
lakers were under so much pressure...medias pressure, crowd pressure...the feeling that it was the beginning of the end for the franchise too... bynum even said that there were some prolbems between the players themselves...(with the coach?)
Imagine being harassed by some midget at this point, with all that pressure, and that very same midget running at you trying to score blatantly starting a duel with you right after he insulted you...
Everyone got what he deserved imo.
People only judge what they see, not what they didnt see. If barrea was making fun of bynum, tauting him or anything, he deserved to be put in his place. It's easy to beat a dead horse, barrea obviously enjoyed the suffering shown by the lakers players. Bynum thought it was a shity attitude from such a little man, that he shoudl have shown more respect, and taught him respect.
In the end Bynum got punished, barea got punished, justice s been administered to both parties.
And you know what?
PEOPLE LOVE TO SEE THAT KIND OF SHIT, SINCE THE EXISTENCE OF MANKIND. Let's not be hypocritical here, it's human nature. People pay to watch other people get angry, hate on each others, and do nasty things to each others. A long time ago it was in coliseums, nowadays it's on a basketball court.
I absolutely do not like the attitude of terry and barea, and even kidd. They are assholes. Lakers have always been a lot more respectful. Odom , bynum and artest just doing their job, kobe if an obsessive nerd / prima donna has always stayed respectful, gasol wouldht hurt a fly.
Mavs players are assholes and they ll get served wether they face okc or grizzlies who are both tough physical young...assholes.
In life, if you're mad at someone, you still can't physically hurt them, particularly in a severe\debilitating way. Even if they started it by saying mean things to you or hurting your feelings. If you ARE going to try to hurt someone, it's best to man up and let your intentions be known (ie confront them) rather than pick the smallest guy on the other team and hit him in the chest while he is 3 feet in the air not fighting you, but playing basketball. Ok?
OK!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
Seriously if you missed this lesson please go back to kindergarten
sportstownusa
05-09-2011, 11:21 AM
A personal foul might've been called in the 80's. People have been punched square in the face and no foul was called on the play in the 80's.
and you want that? You want people to be punched in the face and no foul to be called? The reason we don't have 80's rules anymore is because 80's rules put players in unnecessary danger. It has nothing to do with NBA being soft, etc like all the dummies here think. It has everything to do with a basketball game being a game where you show skills in putting a ball through a hoop and preventing others from doing so without trying to hurt other players. As we move on in time, we learn from our mistakes. NBA realized that it would be a big mistake to just let ppl hurt others whenever they wish. You can evolve intellectually with the rest of us or you can stay in your 80's.
pete's montreux
05-09-2011, 11:39 AM
and you want that? You want people to be punched in the face and no foul to be called? The reason we don't have 80's rules anymore is because 80's rules put players in unnecessary danger. It has nothing to do with NBA being soft, etc like all the dummies here think. It has everything to do with a basketball game being a game where you show skills in putting a ball through a hoop and preventing others from doing so without trying to hurt other players. As we move on in time, we learn from our mistakes. NBA realized that it would be a big mistake to just let ppl hurt others whenever they wish. You can evolve intellectually with the rest of us or you can stay in your 80's.
I don't have any idea why you quoted me. You asked me a question and then answered it for me. What was the point? Are you so used to one sided arguments that you just took the initiative or something?
Just because I said what I said doesn't mean I'm "stuck in the 80's". I was pointing out facts. Don't drag me into this bullshit if you're just going to assume and answer for me.
greymatter
05-09-2011, 11:45 AM
:facepalm at all the Laker nut-huggers applauding the foul.
Epic :facepalm at the retards comparing this to any foul by Dwight. Dwight doesn't intentionally try to hurt anyone when he intentionally fouls hard. Bynum actually jumped into JJ while leading out with his elbow. That's a bitc h move no matter what the situation is. It's the second time this season he's done that and this one was worse than the one he put on Beasley.
sportstownusa
05-09-2011, 11:57 AM
I don't have any idea why you quoted me. You asked me a question and then answered it for me. What was the point? Are you so used to one sided arguments that you just took the initiative or something?
Just because I said what I said doesn't mean I'm "stuck in the 80's". I was pointing out facts. Don't drag me into this bullshit if you're just going to assume and answer for me.
yea, your contribution to Bynum's cheap shot is that it's been done in the 80's and there was no consequences, as if that justifies it or something. what was the point of what you said?
Imagine that it takes 2 years for military action to end a hypothetical genocide that killed 4 million people. If people start talking about how we let a genocide go on for 2 years, Is your response to that going to be "well the Nazis had their genocide going on for longer than that and we didn't do anything".
What you were saying had no contribution to the arguments of the foul in question, unless you were insinuating that this foul wasn't a big deal since there were many fouls in the 80's such as this that had no consequence. I assumed the 2nd, because i gave you the benefit of the doubt that you wouldn't just say something that contributes nothing to the discussion. That benefit of the doubt required me to assume that your statement was a justification to have no consequences for Bynum's foul. Therefore i asked the question. I answered, because it was a rhetorical question.
And no, i am not as used to one-sided arguments such as the topic at hand.
pete's montreux
05-09-2011, 12:01 PM
yea, your contribution to Bynum's cheap shot is that it's been done in the 80's and there was no consequences, as if that justifies it or something. what was the point of what you said?
Imagine that it takes 2 years for military action to end a hypothetical genocide that killed 4 million people. If people start talking about how we let a genocide go on for 2 years, Is your response to that going to be "well the Nazis had their genocide going on for longer than that and we didn't do anything".
What you were saying had no contribution to the arguments of the foul in question, unless you were insinuating that this foul wasn't a big deal since there were many fouls in the 80's such as this that had no consequence. I assumed the 2nd, because i gave you the benefit of the doubt that you wouldn't just say something that contributes nothing to the discussion. That benefit of the doubt required me to assume that your statement was a justification to have no consequences for Bynum's foul. Therefore i asked the question. I answered, because it was a rhetorical question.
And no, i am not as used to one-sided arguments such as the topic at hand.
I was responding to Floppy who responded to someone who brought up the 80's.
I guess next time I'll spell everything out in case people like you enter the thread. Have fun assuming everything though in the future, It's working out great for you so far.
I'm not seeing any remorse by bynum. Quite sad from this sore loser. Instead of being suspended in regular season games, I believe he should be suspended for the next time he plays in the playoffs. Minimum 2 games. Only way this shit bag will learn.
Laker12
05-09-2011, 12:12 PM
Mavs fans mad at the foul LOL. Good hit Bynum
sportstownusa
05-09-2011, 12:15 PM
I was responding to Floppy who responded to someone who brought up the 80's.
I guess next time I'll spell everything out in case people like you enter the thread. Have fun assuming everything though in the future, It's working out great for you so far.
I'm sorry about the fact that i assumed that your comment was a contribution to the general discussion rather than a reply to someone who you didn't bother to quote.
Mrofir
05-09-2011, 12:15 PM
Mavs fans mad at the foul LOL. Good hit Bynum
thanks for identifying yourself
Funnyfuka
05-09-2011, 12:15 PM
In life, if you're mad at someone, you still can't physically hurt them, particularly in a severe\debilitating way. Even if they started it by saying mean things to you or hurting your feelings. If you ARE going to try to hurt someone, it's best to man up and let your intentions be known (ie confront them) rather than pick the smallest guy on the other team and hit him in the chest while he is 3 feet in the air not fighting you, but playing basketball. Ok?
OK!!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!
Seriously if you missed this lesson please go back to kindergarten
Lol. Humans, who are animals with a more powerful brain, will use every strategy they can to kill instead of being killed (or survive while endanegering someone s else survival if needed). You re the one who should go back to kindergarten.
Mrofir
05-09-2011, 12:16 PM
I'm not seeing any remorse by bynum. Quite sad from this sore loser. Instead of being suspended in regular season games, I believe he should be suspended for the next time he plays in the playoffs. Minimum 2 games. Only way this shit bag will learn.
both reg and playoffs.
12 games, 10 reg 2 playoffs if applicable HAHAHAHHA
Mrofir
05-09-2011, 12:16 PM
Lol. Humans, who are animals with a more powerful brain, will use every strategy they can to kill instead of being killed (or survive while endanegering someone s else survival if needed). You re the one who should go back to kindergarten.
ok you got an lol, really
ur name was a good choice
didnt realize basketball was a game where people killed each other, my bad.
And I didn't realize life as a human in 2011 is about kill or be killed, my bad.
Rake2204
05-09-2011, 12:18 PM
yea, your contribution to Bynum's cheap shot is that it's been done in the 80's and there was no consequences, as if that justifies it or something. what was the point of what you said?
Imagine that it takes 2 years for military action to end a hypothetical genocide that killed 4 million people. If people start talking about how we let a genocide go on for 2 years, Is your response to that going to be "well the Nazis had their genocide going on for longer than that and we didn't do anything".
What you were saying had no contribution to the arguments of the foul in question, unless you were insinuating that this foul wasn't a big deal since there were many fouls in the 80's such as this that had no consequence. I assumed the 2nd, because i gave you the benefit of the doubt that you wouldn't just say something that contributes nothing to the discussion. That benefit of the doubt required me to assume that your statement was a justification to have no consequences for Bynum's foul. Therefore i asked the question. I answered, because it was a rhetorical question.
And no, i am not as used to one-sided arguments such as the topic at hand.
I support your reasoning and logic on this subject. Well spoken.
Laker12
05-09-2011, 12:19 PM
Barea got what he deserved. Going in the paint up by 30? Bynum did the right thing
wally_world
05-09-2011, 12:22 PM
Barea got what he deserved. Going in the paint up by 30? Bynum did the right thing
:oldlol:
Some Lakers fans are pathetic
Hittin_Shots
05-09-2011, 12:24 PM
:oldlol:
Some Lakers fans are pathetic
One's with 15 posts bored tryna start an argument they kno they can't win but can frustrate people.
Floppy
05-09-2011, 12:24 PM
Barea got what he deserved. Going in the paint up by 30? Bynum did the right thing
And your mother did the right thing when she repeatedly dropped you on your head as a baby.
Might as well get benefits when your kid's an idiot.
Laker12
05-09-2011, 12:25 PM
Mavs fans how does that trophy case look? Bynum=legend
PHILA
05-09-2011, 12:29 PM
bynum is a big slow immature kid
You got that right.
brownmamba00
05-09-2011, 12:30 PM
I think he was being sarcastic
Ol Dirty Bastard
05-09-2011, 12:35 PM
F**K BYNUM
I can't believe some of the people I know that were applauding Bynum's actions yesterday.
Embarrassing to the Laker franchise and the ultimate F*CK YOU to his team mates and his coaches.
Phil Jackson didn't deserve what this punk Bynum did.
Mrofir
05-09-2011, 12:40 PM
Mavs fans how does that trophy case look? Bynum=legend
omg Im so mad at you!! Stop!! wahh
ErhnamDjinn
05-09-2011, 12:41 PM
Barea got what he deserved. Going in the paint up by 30? Bynum did the right thing
****ing moron, who the hell deserves any injury or flagrant, no sane person would wish ill even against a opponent. What Andrew did was a embarrassment to his team, and his post game interview showing no remorse should warrant a even higher suspension, I bet all you "Laker" fans would be calling for someones head if the Mavs did that to Kobe?:facepalm
Laker12
05-09-2011, 12:44 PM
****ing moron, who the hell deserves any injury or flagrant, no sane person would wish ill even against a opponent. What Andrew did was a embarrassment to his team, and his post game interview showing no remorse should warrant a even higher suspension, I bet all you "Laker" fans would be calling for someones head if the Mavs did that to Kobe?:facepalm
Kobe would not deserved to get hit. Good luck trying to get your 1st championship mate.
STATUTORY
05-09-2011, 12:44 PM
Yeah that's how every series in the 80s ended. The losing team always tried to injure a player when the series was decided. It was common courtesy.
Do you feel like a traitor when you have to criticise your own team or are you mentally ill?
I made two threads criticizing gasol right after the series was over. Don't try and make me into some homer.
I'm not even defending Bynum, I'm just saying it was entirely predictable what was going to happen. Barea was prolly all pumped up about showing up the lakers that he didn't understand the repercussions
like the skinny kid in this gif:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2168525/slammed-o.gif
glidedrxlr22
05-09-2011, 12:54 PM
Barea got what he deserved. Going in the paint up by 30? Bynum did the right thing
^^Must be a gimmick with less than 30 posts. Still....^^a$$hole loser.
ballup
05-09-2011, 12:56 PM
I made two threads criticizing gasol right after the series was over. Don't try and make me into some homer.
I'm not even defending Bynum, I'm just saying it was entirely predictable what was going to happen. Barea was prolly all pumped up about showing up the lakers that he didn't understand the repercussions
like the skinny kid in this gif:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2168525/slammed-o.gif
If Barea wanted to "show up" the Lakers, he would of showed off like this:
Skip to My Lou (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z_F9Zzyi6U)
instead of playing the game.
And if this was totally predictable, wouldn't coach Jackson pull out Bynum before he pulled that embarrassing stunt off?
ErhnamDjinn
05-09-2011, 12:59 PM
Kobe would not deserved to get hit. Good luck trying to get your 1st championship mate.
If Dallas has to devolve into thuggish tactics just to win Id rather have the trophy case empty. Professional sports has no place for people intentionally trying to injure other players. And yes you are correct Kobe and no player in the league deserve to get hit in that manner even Andrew :rolleyes:
Barea got what he deserved. Going in the paint up by 30? Bynum did the right thing
You'd be crying if he stood outside and made more 3s on your non-existent defense too.
Chickensh!t move by Bynum. Typical of a guy who is lots of show and very little go.
Hawker
05-09-2011, 01:11 PM
There was 8 minutes left in the game. How bout you don't go down by 30 in the first place?
Hittin_Shots
05-09-2011, 01:17 PM
I made two threads criticizing gasol right after the series was over. Don't try and make me into some homer.
I'm not even defending Bynum, I'm just saying it was entirely predictable what was going to happen. Barea was prolly all pumped up about showing up the lakers that he didn't understand the repercussions
like the skinny kid in this gif:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2168525/slammed-o.gif
That is not the same thing, have u said anything but speculations that Barea was running his mouth which wud still not warrant what he did anyway.
Floppy
05-09-2011, 01:24 PM
I made two threads criticizing gasol right after the series was over. Don't try and make me into some homer.
I'm not even defending Bynum, I'm just saying it was entirely predictable what was going to happen. Barea was prolly all pumped up about showing up the lakers that he didn't understand the repercussions
like the skinny kid in this gif:
http://www.gifsoup.com/view3/2168525/slammed-o.gif
So by blaming Barea for what has happened (which is ridiculous btw) you're not defending Bynum?
Laker12
05-09-2011, 01:26 PM
Bynum :bowdown:
Bynum :bowdown:
Easier for you to slobber on his knob from that position.
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