I guess the new age NBA is being forced down our throats

[The Next Jordan]

(homo)

I didn't want to accept it, but it's here, whether I like it or not.

A league where:
-team loyalty means nothing
-perimeter players > post players
-individual talent trumps team basketball
-everything is a foul
-being friends > having rivalries
-toughness and grit don't exist anymore

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This is gonna be a fun decade:

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[LMFAO]

the league made rule changes and rule enforcement changes that made sure the guards would be allowed to roam free while PF and centers can be beat half to death without a call. So ya, its a new day in the NBA like it or not.

[TylerOO]

:sleeping :sleeping

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

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[pmj]

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[BallsOut]

Yep what a fitting way to start the lockout. NBA RIP 2011. The year that saw mentally weak ******* team up just like the NY Yankees of baseball. Death to loyalty, hard work, perseverance, having heart and competition. I'm done watching the NBA if the Heat win.

[kaiiu]

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:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Lordragoonx1x]

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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

[The Next Jordan]

the league made rule changes and rule enforcement changes that made sure the guards would be allowed to roam free while PF and centers can be beat half to death without a call. So ya, its a new day in the NBA like it or not.
Dwight Howard being a prime example of that. He's the last of a dying breed and he's gonna get hacked and fouled with no calls from now until retirement. And then we can look to the Andrea Bustnani era of big men.

[Faberg]

:roll: :roll:

[Ne 1]

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[10x91= 5 Rings]

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that`s actually funny.

[kaiiu]

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[The Next Jordan]

that`s actually funny.
No it's not. I'd give D-Wade, Bosh, and Kevin Love up to have those 3 guys back in their prime.

[TheAnchorman]

Lol this happens all the godamn time.

When Jordan retired in '98 all the old-timers were lamenting about the NBA's image, with the thugs and the gangsters and all the tattoos and selfish, And-1 me first style of basketball.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

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:cheers: :roll: :roll: :lol

Old Geezers :oldlol:

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[The Next Jordan]

Lol this happens all the godamn time.

When Jordan retired in '98 all the old-timers were lamenting about the NBA's image, with the thugs and the gangsters and all the tattoos and selfish, And-1 me first style of basketball.
Shows how young most of this board is when being 25 makes you one of the old timers.

[kaiiu]

:cheers: :roll: :roll: :lol

Old Geezers :oldlol:

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[PowerGlove]

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[8BeastlyXOIAD]

No it's not. I'd give D-Wade, Bosh, and Kevin Love up to have those 3 guys back in their prime.

LMFAO @ Kevin Love being mention with those guys:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Clippersfan86]

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HAHAHAHAHAHA...
:roll: :lol

[MostHated305]

Yep what a fitting way to start the lockout. NBA RIP 2011. The year that saw mentally weak ******* team up just like the NY Yankees of baseball. Death to loyalty, hard work, perseverance, having heart and competition. I'm done watching the NBA if the Heat win.


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[hon]

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Nowitzki takes exception to being lumped with the older generation, especially when he accentuates his thick golden locks with an NBA sweatband.

[oh the horror]

I always crack up when the youngsters around here try to clown about some of us being older.


The reality is, this is the softest, emo generation coming up.


Dudes rocking tight pants, bright colors, and looking prissy and pretty. Meanwhile, even when they talk tough, you kind of just laugh. No one is buying it. Posing in pictures on their facebooks, puckering their lips and such.



Meanwhile, the league grows softer, and softer. People screaming over hard fouls, and demanding that players be suspended for "20 games" and such. Shit has CHANGED folks.

[LMFAO]

Shows how young most of this board is when being 25 makes you one of the old timers.
Wow I take a few months off and bam, ten year olds take over. How tragic. Guess they must be making Jeff $$$ or he would clean the place up.

[Disaprine]

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nice poster. :applause:

[SpecialQue]

I always crack up when the youngsters around here try to clown about some of us being older.


The reality is, this is the softest, emo generation coming up.


Dudes rocking tight pants, bright colors, and looking prissy and pretty. Meanwhile, even when they talk tough, you kind of just laugh. No one is buying it. Posing in pictures on their facebooks, puckering their lips and such.



Meanwhile, the league grows softer, and softer. People screaming over hard fouls, and demanding that players be suspended for "20 games" and such. Shit has CHANGED folks.

:oldlol:

I mostly agree, but come on. That androgynous $hit in the 80s was straight embarrassing.

[8BeastlyXOIAD]

I always crack up when the youngsters around here try to clown about some of us being older.


The reality is, this is the softest, emo generation coming up.


Dudes rocking tight pants, bright colors, and looking prissy and pretty. Meanwhile, even when they talk tough, you kind of just laugh. No one is buying it. Posing in pictures on their facebooks, puckering their lips and such.



Meanwhile, the league grows softer, and softer. People screaming over hard fouls, and demanding that players be suspended for "20 games" and such. Shit has CHANGED folks.
http://cuts.swordsandpencils.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/grandpa-wanksta.jpg
This Guy....

[The Next Jordan]

Wow I take a few months off and bam, ten year olds take over. How tragic. Guess they must be making Jeff $$$ or he would clean the place up.
Pretty much. Sad, but true.

[LMFAO]

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This Guy....

[LMFAO]

http://badbabyphotos.com/photo/1280/771266489/1/tumblr_l52docTFJP1qbz9c5
another baby clown posing as a basketball fan posting bs and plus ones and adding nothing to the mix.

[DWade06]

:sleeping So create a time machine and go back to 1995. If you don't like the NBA, don't watch it.

[kaiiu]

vs you guys...well if you can call ten year old **** guys.
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[LMFAO]

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another pants shitting gansta wantabe

[LMFAO]

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[LMFAO]

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[LMFAO]

yep you guys are some bad muthas on your middle school playgrounds huh?

[Hondo]

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That's his regular face.

[LMFAO]

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[coin24]

Dont like it, dont watch..


Also, team loyalty? Are you really that retarded???
Ive never understood people that believe this, teams can trade and shaft players however they see fit, but if a player finishes his contract and chooses to sign elsewhere he is unloyal??? :facepalm

[LMFAO]

Dont like it, dont watch..


Also, team loyalty? Are you really that retarded???
Ive never understood people that believe this, teams can trade and shaft players however they see fit, but if a player finishes his contract and chooses to sign elsewhere he is unloyal??? :facepalm
there is some truth to that. It is a two way street. David Robinson was seriously looking at finishing his career in NY because the Spurs were trying to sign Chris Weber and had not offered him a contract. George Gervin was traded to the Bulls after years of loyal service to the Spurs organization. As for the "if you don't like it don't watch it snide punk ass comment I have paid my fair share of money into the pot so I have earned my right to ***** to the league directly or anyone else I choose when they go pro wrestling on us. Quit trying to market the shit and play the ****ing game.

[3243]

Lol this happens all the godamn time.

When Jordan retired in '98 all the old-timers were lamenting about the NBA's image, with the thugs and the gangsters and all the tattoos and selfish, And-1 me first style of basketball.


Just like people complained about the '70s NBA image, with the coked-up thugs and the enforcers and all the Muslim names and the Afros and selfish, one-on-one me-first style of basketball.

[3243]

:oldlol:

I mostly agree, but come on. That androgynous $hit in the 80s was straight embarrassing.

How about glam rock in the '70s?

[hammer2010]

Sorry thread hijacked by old people!!!


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[Juges8932]

-team loyalty means nothing: Don't care. This notion that players owe jack shit to a team is a joke (We all know who you are singling out here). Players get drafted to a team. They have no choice but to go to that team. If they give it their all while they are there, then that is all that matters.
-perimeter players > post players: Always been a SG fan, so I like it. Plus, the bigs just aren't made how they used to be. The amount of talented big men is not what it once was.
-individual talent trumps team basketball: This is not even true. Look at Kobe 05-07 and Wade 08-10. Spectacular individual talent, but nothing without a team.
-everything is a foul: This is highly annoying, so I agree.
-being friends > having rivalries: They play to win. If joining their friends, who are also great, on a team increases these chances, then they would be stupid not to take them. Why should anybody stay on a team that they don't want to be on when they could just as easily go to another team and have fun while having a better chance to win? This idea that superstars need to do it on their own because MJ, Bird, and Magic wouldn't have done it that way is asinine and outdated. It's 2011, not 1985. Which let us not pretend like MJ, Magic, and Bird didn't have stacked ass teams anyways, which they are not penalized for having. However, nowadays, players like Kobe and LBJ get criticized for it. **** outta here with that double standard bullshit. And you know what? You are wrong. There are PLENTY of rivalries- LA vs Boston, Mia (More Wade/LeBron) vs Boston, LA vs SA, and plenty of others.
-toughness and grit don't exist anymore: Kind of true. At least not on the level that it was.

Sports are dynamic. Either accept this and find something you enjoy about it, or don't watch and wait for the next era.

[Harison]

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:roll: :applause:

[brownmamba00]

-team loyalty means nothing: Don't care. This notion that players owe jack shit to a team is a joke (We all know who you are singling out here). Players get drafted to a team. They have no choice but to go to that team. If they give it their all while they are there, then that is all that matters.
-perimeter players > post players: Always been a SG fan, so I like it. Plus, the bigs just aren't made how they used to be. The amount of talented big men is not what it once was.
-individual talent trumps team basketball: This is not even true. Look at Kobe 05-07 and Wade 08-10. Spectacular individual talent, but nothing without a team.
-everything is a foul: This is highly annoying, so I agree.
-being friends > having rivalries: They play to win. If joining their friends, who are also great, on a team increases these chances, then they would be stupid not to take them. Why should anybody stay on a team that they don't want to be on when they could just as easily go to another team and have fun while having a better chance to win? This idea that superstars need to do it on their own because MJ, Bird, and Magic wouldn't have done it that way is asinine and outdated. It's 2011, not 1985. Which let us not pretend like MJ, Magic, and Bird didn't have stacked ass teams anyways, which they are not penalized for having. However, nowadays, players like Kobe and LBJ get criticized for it. **** outta here with that double standard bullshit. And you know what? You are wrong. There are PLENTY of rivalries- LA vs Boston, Mia (More Wade/LeBron) vs Boston, LA vs SA, and plenty of others.
-toughness and grit don't exist anymore: Kind of true. At least not on the level that it was.

Sports are dynamic. Either accept this and find something you enjoy about it, or don't watch and wait for the next era.

LOL there arent rivalry's left except for the Lakers and the Celdikks.
Maybe when NYC becomes a contender the Bulls-Knicks rivalry can come back or a Heat-Knicks one but theyre all superfriends so :confusedshrug:

And really whats up with all these fouls, every 10 seconds there is a foul called and when u b!tch about it it's always the same answer from the same homers; 'they are being agressive'

Jumping into a defender and getting the call :facepalm

Pathetic

[C-Webb4]

-being friends > having rivalries: They play to win. If joining their friends, who are also great, on a team increases these chances, then they would be stupid not to take them. Why should anybody stay on a team that they don't want to be on when they could just as easily go to another team and have fun while having a better chance to win?
.
Well thanks in large part to their "smart" decision, the NBA is facing a lockout and in the future, teams might not have that ability to outright sign 3 near max level players on the same team.

[Sakkreth]

Lol this happens all the godamn time.

When Jordan retired in '98 all the old-timers were lamenting about the NBA's image, with the thugs and the gangsters and all the tattoos and selfish, And-1 me first style of basketball.

Agreed.

En taro tassadar

[C-Webb4]

Agreed.

En taro tassadar
Most of the kiddies on this board weren't even alive to watch a prime Jordan, so that makes that opinion null and void.

[gox]

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"I'm serious business"

[spursrule]

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:lol

[JMT]

Shows how young most of this board is when being 25 makes you one of the old timers.

LMAO

So you're pining for the days of endless isolation plays, non-stop illegal defense calls, steering perimeter players with hand checks, and fouls only called every 10 seconds if your name happens to be Jordan.

Yeah, thems was the good ol' days.

Child, please.

[C-Webb4]

LMAO

So you're pining for the days of endless isolation plays, non-stop illegal defense calls, steering perimeter players with hand checks, and fouls only called every 10 seconds if your name happens to be Jordan.

Yeah, thems was the good ol' days.

Child, please.
Have you by any chance been watching the teams who remain in the playoffs? OKC? Miami? Chicago? Atlanta?

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Its a cycle guys, this type of will eventually fade and there will be something else to ***** about.

[taucesays]

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I don't know why I never saw it

[JMT]

Have you by any chance been watching the teams who remain in the playoffs? OKC? Miami? Chicago? Atlanta?

So you want to address one of four points? OK.

The darkest days the NBA has ever seen was Shaq or Barkley pounding the life out of the ball, back to the basket with little intent to actually make a move, waiting for the ref to call illegal defense.

Yes, Chicago isolates Rose a lot. More than they should, probably. Of course, the Bulls in the 90s never had a team where one guy monopolized the ball while his teammates sometimes were guilty of standing around watching.

OKC? It's generally acknowledged that Westbrook has to do a better job of getting his teammates involved. But he's still the second leading scorer on the team, which features a great young scorer, a solid thrid option, and a nice rotation of bigs.

Atlanta? Are you kidding? The only reason the Hawks are alive is because they've shown the willingness to move without the ball and move the ball that they rarely have displayed in the past. When they isolate, everything goes stagnant. That's their biggest problem.

Miami? Well, they've got two guys who are arguably the best one-on-one players in the world. What would you suggest they do? Create more opportunities for Mike Miller?

Meanwhile, Memphis has overcome the loss of their best offensive player by focusing on controlling the boards and establishing a dominant low post offensive presence. And Dallas has embraced a total team concept on both ends, something they've not done in the past. And that's a veteran team buying in, not a bunch of kids. But who wants to watch crap like that?

OP says he's 25, which makes me more than double his age (moment of personal sadness). I've been closely involved in the game at virtually every level over the last 40+ years. Trends come and go, but the basics remain the same. Share the ball. Rebound as a team. Have a guy who can get you a good shot when the clock is winding down. Defend.

Could the league be better? Sure. Contract by about 6 teams. That'd solve the scarcity of bigs, the lure of a couple stars holding their franchises hostage so they can play together, and cut the rapidly escalating costs of salaries and travel.

But there have been changes necessary at every step along the way, just as there have been good, great and bad teams and players along the way. Only the talking points...which, sadly, today are often a product of idiotic blogs and mindless sports talk radio...really change.

[gasolina]

I agree that every era laments the passing on to a new generation - where basketball fundamentals are traded for athlethicism and one on one and1 plays.

But when you think about it, most of the time, the "Traditional Teams" always win out.

Bird's Celtics, Magic's Lakers, Jordan's Bulls, Bad Boy Pistons, Hakeem's Rockets, Big Three Spurs, Shaq-Kobe Lakers, One hit wonder Pistons, Big Three Celtics, and Kobe-Gasol Lakers. They all played traditional basketball and not the "everyone clear out while I drive and try to get freethrows".

The only recent culprit was the Shaq-Wade Heat. But everyone knows that series with the Mavs was one of the most disgusting things to watch. Wade literally jumping forward to defenders to get free throws. :banghead:

Coincidentally the tables have now been turned against the Traditional Teams. The no hand-check rule really limits playing defense and just opens up the lane for everyone. This rule is so ridiculous, It's not even "accepted" by us weekend warriors who only play in the park.

If regualr guys like you and me can play basketball and get to the hole with hand checking... why can't the league?

[LMFAO]

I agree that every era laments the passing on to a new generation - where basketball fundamentals are traded for athlethicism and one on one and1 plays.

But when you think about it, most of the time, the "Traditional Teams" always win out.

Bird's Celtics, Magic's Lakers, Jordan's Bulls, Bad Boy Pistons, Hakeem's Rockets, Big Three Spurs, Shaq-Kobe Lakers, One hit wonder Pistons, Big Three Celtics, and Kobe-Gasol Lakers. They all played traditional basketball and not the "everyone clear out while I drive and try to get freethrows".

The only recent culprit was the Shaq-Wade Heat. But everyone knows that series with the Mavs was one of the most disgusting things to watch. Wade literally jumping forward to defenders to get free throws. :banghead:

Coincidentally the tables have now been turned against the Traditional Teams. The no hand-check rule really limits playing defense and just opens up the lane for everyone. This rule is so ridiculous, It's not even "accepted" by us weekend warriors who only play in the park.

If regualr guys like you and me can play basketball and get to the hole with hand checking... why can't the league?
Wisdom.

[JMT]

I agree that every era laments the passing on to a new generation - where basketball fundamentals are traded for athlethicism and one on one and1 plays.

But when you think about it, most of the time, the "Traditional Teams" always win out.

Bird's Celtics, Magic's Lakers, Jordan's Bulls, Bad Boy Pistons, Hakeem's Rockets, Big Three Spurs, Shaq-Kobe Lakers, One hit wonder Pistons, Big Three Celtics, and Kobe-Gasol Lakers. They all played traditional basketball and not the "everyone clear out while I drive and try to get freethrows".

The only recent culprit was the Shaq-Wade Heat. But everyone knows that series with the Mavs was one of the most disgusting things to watch. Wade literally jumping forward to defenders to get free throws. :banghead:

Coincidentally the tables have now been turned against the Traditional Teams. The no hand-check rule really limits playing defense and just opens up the lane for everyone. This rule is so ridiculous, It's not even "accepted" by us weekend warriors who only play in the park.

If regualr guys like you and me can play basketball and get to the hole with hand checking... why can't the league?

Good post.

Re hand checking, the only thing I'd say is that those aren't regular guys doing the hand checking.

NBA-caliber athletes are strong enough that a well executed hand check enables them to steer you wherever they want you to go.

One reason Jordan survived was his freakish strength and size for his position. The average SG didn't have a prayer against a comparably sized player who really knows how to hand check.

Which brings up the other point. The guys at the park don't know how to hand check. Lets face it, the skill level in every aspect of the game is greatly compromised, and defense is the last area of focus.

[sh0wtime]

I agree that every era laments the passing on to a new generation - where basketball fundamentals are traded for athlethicism and one on one and1 plays.

But when you think about it, most of the time, the "Traditional Teams" always win out.

Bird's Celtics, Magic's Lakers, Jordan's Bulls, Bad Boy Pistons, Hakeem's Rockets, Big Three Spurs, Shaq-Kobe Lakers, One hit wonder Pistons, Big Three Celtics, and Kobe-Gasol Lakers. They all played traditional basketball and not the "everyone clear out while I drive and try to get freethrows".

The only recent culprit was the Shaq-Wade Heat. But everyone knows that series with the Mavs was one of the most disgusting things to watch. Wade literally jumping forward to defenders to get free throws.

Coincidentally the tables have now been turned against the Traditional Teams. The no hand-check rule really limits playing defense and just opens up the lane for everyone. This rule is so ridiculous, It's not even "accepted" by us weekend warriors who only play in the park.

If regualr guys like you and me can play basketball and get to the hole with hand checking... why can't the league?



Wisdom.

"If regular guys like you and me can play basketball and get away with kicking the ball, double dribbles, crab dribbles, traveling, hand checking, palming, pushing, punching, fighting, illegal screens, illegal defense, 3 seconds, 5 seconds, no shotclock and say **** as much as we like all the time because we have no referee... why can't the league?"

See what i did there? :)

[Go Getter]

A league where:

-team loyalty means nothing?

Is that why guys like Fisher, Duncan, Dirk, etc stay with the teams they love for less money? Is that why the Bulls paid Jay Williams' dumb ass even when they were not contractually obliged to?

-perimeter players > post players

And the best perimeter players are the ones that can score in the paint. Players that can score down low and create from outside will more than likely be better than bigs on offense.....but on defense bigs are still key.

-individual talent trumps team basketball

Really? Is that why the Bulls and Spurs finished with the best records in the NBA and not the Heat?-everything is a foul

-being friends > having rivalries

You're crazy if you think all the PC statements made are real. You couldn't feel the rivalry of the Lakers/Mavs series? You couldn't tell that it felt SO good for them to beat the Lakers after all the titles they've won? Kobe likes Ray Allen? Cleveland likes Joakim Noah? Quentin Richardson and PP get along? KG and Noah? :facepalm

-toughness and grit don't exist anymore

Butler trying his hardest to come back isn't toughness? Kobe playing with a jacked up finger for two years isn't toughness? Rondo coming back in the game after gruesomely dislocating his elbow isn't toughness? Rose playing with sprained ankles even though his game is predicated on speed isn't toughness?


No one is forcing anything down your throat you have the right to turn the TV/PC off and not watch basketball....and judging by your take on things that might not be a bad idea.