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NewYorkNoPicks
05-11-2011, 04:18 AM
Dirk's last name is not German at all, I'm pretty confident that it is of Slavic/Polish origin.

Does anyone know anything about this? Is he only half German? Or did his family just live in Germany without having any German heritage?

Always have wondered about this

thomaspynchon
05-11-2011, 04:20 AM
How are asian people american but have asian last names?

RUCKER
05-11-2011, 04:21 AM
Dirk's dad banged a German woman and kept his father's last name.

NewYorkNoPicks
05-11-2011, 04:26 AM
How are asian people american but have asian last names?

The United States is a melting pot, a place that (aside from "native americans") does not have a specific ethnicity/nationality connected to it.

Russia is mainly filled with Russians, China is mainly filled with Chinese, Germany is mainly filled with native Germans.

Dirk plays for the German team, is considered German, but has a Polish last name. Considering that Germany is a place that has a specific group of people attached to it, unlike the melting pot that is the U.S....my question is legitimate.

Silverbullit
05-11-2011, 04:27 AM
Dirk is born in Germany, so are his mother and his father.

thomaspynchon
05-11-2011, 04:29 AM
The United States is a melting pot, a place that (aside from "native americans") does not have a specific ethnicity/nationality connected to it.

Russia is mainly filled with Russians, China is mainly filled with Chinese, Germany is mainly filled with native Germans.

Dirk plays for the German team, is considered German, but has a Polish last name. Considering that Germany is a place that has a specific group of people attached to it, unlike the melting pot that is the U.S....my question is legitimate.

Search google for "Multiculturalism has been a failure in germany, vice chancellor announces." Germany has opened its gated to immigration over the past decades.

also, note poland's geographic location

jstern
05-11-2011, 04:34 AM
Personally I think he's German because he was born in Germany.

chains5000
05-11-2011, 04:37 AM
Personally I think he's German because he was born in Germany.
:eek:

kraze94
05-11-2011, 04:39 AM
He could be German but have Polish ancestry.

Just like soccer player Lukas Podolski

BASTEY
05-11-2011, 04:43 AM
Dirk Werner Nowitzki is german. He is born and raised in Germany. But you're right his last name sounds slavic. But it's the logical consequence of the increased immigration from slavics to Germany over the last decades. So it could be possible and it's probably right that Dirk's ancestors came from Eastern Europe. We've lots of german sportsman with slavic, especially polish ancestors. E.g. Lukas Podolski and Miroslav Klose.

moaz
05-11-2011, 04:45 AM
His grandpa chocked when he named himself. See the Golden state series.

Someone has to bring this up

skaterbasist
05-11-2011, 04:52 AM
Immigration left and right through the centuries. You also have to consider that last names have not been used for very long (not long meaning only a few centuries). So if his ancestors immigrated to Europe within earlier on in they could have adopted a German last name.

Tonius
05-11-2011, 04:59 AM
I demand to see his birth certificate!

Grafbag
05-11-2011, 04:59 AM
Been wondering the same thing, actually. His mother and father were both athletes that represented Germany on a national level (his father player handball, and I think his mother played basketball)
Still strange with the last name, though.

Sarcastic
05-11-2011, 05:18 AM
If you ever studied the history of Europe, you would learn that all the peoples from that area are interrelated.

moaz
05-11-2011, 05:25 AM
Been wondering the same thing, actually. His mother and father were both athletes that represented Germany on a national level (his father player handball, and I think his mother played basketball)
Still strange with the last name, though.
Oh my God. I love how little Americans know about history/any other part of the world.

Poland u know shares the longest border with Germany amongst 9 neighbors. Actually till WW2 a great part in Poland had a huge German population (The last German Literature Nobel Winner Grass was born their). In the other side millions of polish people lived in Germany (we are still in the period between late 19th century and WW2) especially in the area called the Ruhr in west Germany, where there was huge mining and metalworking industries. Many of these polish workers stayed there and became German citizens (if u read All Quiet on the Western Front, the most famous novel about WWI, one of the soldiers in the German army had the name Stanislaus Katczinsky).
Then after WW2 many Polish people fled to the west and remained there but their numbers cant be compared to those from the begin fo the century.

kumquat
05-11-2011, 05:32 AM
Dirk's real name is Dirk Miller - he changed his name so he could get drafted higher and get away with being 7ft and shooting jumpers.

brain drain
05-11-2011, 05:38 AM
There has been immigration from Poland for a longer time than just a few decades. For example in ther Ruhr Area, there are lots of people with Polish / Slavic last names whose ancestors immigrated to Germany in the 19th century to work in the coal mines ("Ruhrpolen", see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruhrpolen). Maybe that's how his ancestors came to Germany.


Even though Europe isn't a melting pot like the US, the picture was never as clear as "only Germans live in Germany, only Russians in Russia etc."
There were lots of Germans who lived in in Russia (Wolgadeutsche), Romania (Siebenb

Kebab Stall
05-11-2011, 05:51 AM
This is the dumbest thread I have ever seen and considering this is ISH, that takes some serious doing.

Congrats, retard!

tomtucker
05-11-2011, 05:59 AM
How are asian people american but have asian last names?
They are not, just look at them. Americans are white and black......the best colors....:rockon: .....great at sports too....:cheers:

PrimeJohnnyDepp
05-11-2011, 06:59 AM
The United States is a melting pot, a place that (aside from "native americans") does not have a specific ethnicity/nationality connected to it.

You've been brainwashed and you are kidding yourself, thankfully. I love good & beautiful white people who you will never see in the media.

Just tear it down and wank, tear it down and wank on the daily basis. go.

Hawker
05-11-2011, 07:03 AM
America is the only country that matters.

moaz
05-11-2011, 07:03 AM
You've been brainwashed and you are kidding yourself, thankfully. I love good & beautiful white people who you will never see in the media.

Just tear it down and wank, tear it down and wank on the daily basis. go.

Good that you also would never see the man in your avatar (model role for the good & beautiful white people), because he got sick of people like you and went to live in France.

PrimeJohnnyDepp
05-11-2011, 07:04 AM
I might actually root for Dallas if he was Dirk Werner. :violin: That would be cool.

If you equate great German culture and great German people with the Nazis, you are a strudl. They are only into scat porn because of stupid multiculturalism which makes them ashamed of their fabulous genes.

PrimeJohnnyDepp
05-11-2011, 07:07 AM
Good that you also would never see the man in your avatar (model role for the good & beautiful white people), because he got sick of people like you and went to live in France.

That's a niche. Another niche for you to stay in your room forever. I'm moderate in everything and only care for beauty. If you think all white American people are White Trash like in all your songs, then you've been brainwashed, it's simple really.

moaz
05-11-2011, 07:11 AM
That's a niche. Another niche for you to stay in your room forever. I'm moderate in everything and only care for beauty. If you think all white American people are White Trash like in all your songs, then you've been brainwashed, it's simple really.
my songs?

JohnnySic
05-11-2011, 07:12 AM
If you ever studied the history of Europe, you would learn that all the peoples from that area are interrelated.
This.

There has been a ton of mixing between Germans and Poles over the centuries. The name "Nowitzki" may indeed be of Polish origin, but it doesn't make Dirk any less German.

PrimeJohnnyDepp
05-11-2011, 07:24 AM
my songs?

Interscope.

moaz
05-11-2011, 07:30 AM
Interscope.
actually not.
My last complete "song" was Enrico Caruso's Una Furtiva Lagrima (the 1904 record) and now while writing I'm listening to Jussi Bj

chocolatethunder
05-11-2011, 07:32 AM
His grandpa chocked when he named himself. See the Golden state series.

Someone has to bring this up

I think the word you were looking for is "choked". You my friend, are a moron.

moaz
05-11-2011, 07:39 AM
I think the word you were looking for is "choked". You my friend, are a moron.
Thx for correcting me :bowdown:.
btw do u understand satire? or can u read white color on white background?

Teanett
05-11-2011, 07:53 AM
dirk is from w

Funnyfuka
05-11-2011, 07:58 AM
germany is an extension of turkey nowadays.

brain drain
05-11-2011, 08:04 AM
germany is an extension of turkey nowadays.
Yeah, thanks for Mesut

Sakkreth
05-11-2011, 08:05 AM
[QUOTE=brain drain]Yeah, thanks for Mesut

lakers_forever
05-11-2011, 08:13 AM
Personally I think he's German because he was born in Germany.

Actually, if both the kid's parents are not German, and the kid was born in Germany, that kid will not be considered a German citizen. That's because Germany adopts the jus sanguinis principle. You are a German citizen if you have a German parent, no matter where you was born.

The U.S adopts jus soli, u.s citizens are those who are born in the United States.



America is the only country that matters.

America is not a country. It's a continent that includes North, Central and South American. United States of America is a country.

bingo123
05-11-2011, 08:32 AM
The United States is a melting pot, a place that (aside from "native americans") does not have a specific ethnicity/nationality connected to it.

Russia is mainly filled with Russians, China is mainly filled with Chinese, Germany is mainly filled with native Germans.

Dirk plays for the German team, is considered German, but has a Polish last name. Considering that Germany is a place that has a specific group of people attached to it, unlike the melting pot that is the U.S....my question is legitimate.

Lets look at German football (soccer team) from WC 2010:
1 Manuel NEUER
2 Marcell JANSEN
3 Arne FRIEDRICH
4 Dennis AOGO
5 Serdar TASCI
6 Sami KHEDIRA
7 Bastian SCHWEINSTEIGER
8 Mesut OEZIL
9 Stefan KIESSLING
10 Lukas PODOLSKI
11 Miroslav KLOSE
12 Tim WIESE
13 Thomas MUELLER
14 Holger BADSTUBER
15 Piotr TROCHOWSKI
16 Philipp LAHM
17 Per MERTESACKER
18 Toni KROOS
19 CACAU
20 Jerome BOATENG
21 Marko MARIN
22 Hans JOERG
23 Mario GOMEZ

We are not in 1945. Germany is mixed with ethnicities. I guess Hitler is turning in his grawe.

Chapallaz
05-11-2011, 08:35 AM
Dirk's last name is not German at all, I'm pretty confident that it is of Slavic/Polish origin.

Does anyone know anything about this? Is he only half German? Or did his family just live in Germany without having any German heritage?

Always have wondered about this


Germany is next to Poland. Also, large areas around the border have been both Polish and German in quite recent history.

AND how can Americans have Irish surnames when they're not Irish?

novocaine
05-11-2011, 08:44 AM
Nowitzkis ancestors are from Danzig/Koenigsberg. Former East-Prussia and part of the German Reich during the Nazi reign. Today it belongs to Poland (K

Calabis
05-11-2011, 09:32 AM
Dirk's last name is not German at all, I'm pretty confident that it is of Slavic/Polish origin.

Does anyone know anything about this? Is he only half German? Or did his family just live in Germany without having any German heritage?

Always have wondered about this

Not trying to be a smart ass, but this may possibly be why (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Germany+invades+Poland)

Teanett
05-11-2011, 09:34 AM
"Lebron James" and "Barack Obama" are not american names either but they're US citizens.
"Tȟatȟ

Teanett
05-11-2011, 09:36 AM
Not trying to be a smart ass, but this may possibly be why (http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Germany+invades+Poland)

no it's not. germany and poland share a much longer history than the two world wars.

Calabis
05-11-2011, 09:44 AM
no it's not. germany and poland share a much longer history than the two world wars.

Who cares what happened in 1700's, I simply showed an example of Poland being taken over by German and Russian forces, which is the most recent thing in history, which could have played a role with Dirk's father and mother....if its because his great, great, great grandfather crossed the border and married a german lady then so be it.....I never said this was "the reason"

allabouthawks
05-11-2011, 10:36 AM
:facepalm is this for real? just beacuse his like great great grandfather could of been from somwhere diffrent dosent make him german :facepalm

24r2
05-11-2011, 10:51 AM
better question is why is the sky blue?

TaLvsCuaL
05-11-2011, 10:53 AM
Europe has been mixing for thousands of years, lots of conquest and migration flows. Nothing new and nothing strange.

Teanett
05-11-2011, 10:56 AM
Who cares what happened in 1700's, I simply showed an example of Poland being taken over by German and Russian forces, which is the most recent thing in history, which could have played a role with Dirk's father and mother....if its because his great, great, great grandfather crossed the border and married a german lady then so be it.....I never said this was "the reason"

it shows that you associate germany with "hitler invading poland".

KevinNYC
05-11-2011, 11:11 AM
[QUOTE=novocaine]Nowitzkis ancestors are from Danzig/Koenigsberg. Former East-Prussia and part of the German Reich during the Nazi reign. Today it belongs to Poland (K

PrimeJohnnyDepp
05-11-2011, 11:37 AM
[QUOTE=moaz]actually not.
My last complete "song" was Enrico Caruso's Una Furtiva Lagrima (the 1904 record) and now while writing I'm listening to Jussi Bj

Calabis
05-11-2011, 11:47 AM
it shows that you associate germany with "hitler invading poland".

No it shows that Germans went into Poland and took over part of Poland, it shows

With Germany's defeat, as the reestablished Polish state was shifted west to the area between the Oder-Neisse and Curzon lines, the Germans who had not fled were expelled. Of those who remained, many chose to emigrate to post-war Germany. According to a recently quoted estimate, of the 200-250 thousand Jews who escaped the Nazis, 40-60 thousand had survived in Poland.[44] Of the surviving Jews, many chose or felt compelled to emigrate.

Emigrate: to leave one's place of residence or country to live elsewhere

LMFAO
05-11-2011, 11:49 AM
I demand to see his birth certificate!
:roll: dude Thank You for making me laugh.

Teanett
05-11-2011, 12:42 PM
No it shows that Germans went into Poland and took over part of Poland, it shows

With Germany's defeat, as the reestablished Polish state was shifted west to the area between the Oder-Neisse and Curzon lines, the Germans who had not fled were expelled. Of those who remained, many chose to emigrate to post-war Germany. According to a recently quoted estimate, of the 200-250 thousand Jews who escaped the Nazis, 40-60 thousand had survived in Poland.[44] Of the surviving Jews, many chose or felt compelled to emigrate.

Emigrate: to leave one's place of residence or country to live elsewhere

further proof that whenyou think "germany", "nazi" is the next thing that pops up in your brain. ignorant lil *****.

tomtucker
05-11-2011, 12:43 PM
Lets look at German football (soccer team) from WC 2010:
1 Manuel NEUER
2 Marcell JANSEN
3 Arne FRIEDRICH
4 Dennis AOGO
5 Serdar TASCI
6 Sami KHEDIRA
7 Bastian SCHWEINSTEIGER
8 Mesut OEZIL
9 Stefan KIESSLING
10 Lukas PODOLSKI
11 Miroslav KLOSE
12 Tim WIESE
13 Thomas MUELLER
14 Holger BADSTUBER
15 Piotr TROCHOWSKI
16 Philipp LAHM
17 Per MERTESACKER
18 Toni KROOS
19 CACAU
20 Jerome BOATENG
21 Marko MARIN
22 Hans JOERG
23 Mario GOMEZ

We are not in 1945. Germany is mixed with ethnicities. I guess Hitler is turning in his grawe.
I think he is spinning around like a basketball

(e)
05-11-2011, 01:17 PM
Dirk's real name is Dirk Miller - he changed his name so he could get drafted higher and get away with being 7ft and shooting jumpers.

If this was true, it would actually be M

bullettooth
08-27-2022, 02:05 AM
Personally I think he's German because he was born in Germany.

And if he was born on the Moon?

JohnMax
08-27-2022, 02:14 AM
EthniCelebs: (https://ethnicelebs.com/dirk-nowitzki-is-polish-german)

His surname, Nowitzki, is a Germanized form of the Polish surname Nowicki. Dirk seemed to have indicated that he has only a small amount of Polish ancestry.

Rzeczpospolitej: (http://www.rp.pl/artykul/220723-Do-Polski-na-Euro-nie-przyjade-.html)

Interviewer: It's a pity, because you have Polish roots ...

Dirk Nowitzki: Yes, I even did a private investigation into this and it turned out that my father's ancestors came from Poland. This, however, is a distant past, dating back to the 18th century. After my Polish great-grandparents, only the surname is left to me. Heard it means "new man."

jstern
08-27-2022, 02:21 AM
And if he was born on the Moon?

Then he wouldn't be German. He would be a Moonman.

ralph_i_el
08-29-2022, 09:12 AM
There are parts of current day Poland that used to be German or Prussian in the past, and parts of Germany that were once part of Poland in the past. Plus, German people had colonized parts of Eastern Europe for centuries before the World Wars, and German communities could be found as far as the Volga river in Russia. None of this national-ethnic stuff is cut and dry like some would want you to believe.

WhiteKyrie
08-29-2022, 09:12 AM
People don’t understand nationality and ethnic background. Ginobili is like one of those Italian type Argentinians. That would be like most of team USA playing for Africa. It was egregious when Joakim Noah and Chris Kaman played for other countries when they were clearly American.

kawhileonard2
08-30-2022, 11:43 PM
Dirk's last name is not German at all, I'm pretty confident that it is of Slavic/Polish origin.

Does anyone know anything about this? Is he only half German? Or did his family just live in Germany without having any German heritage?

Always have wondered about this
It's German.

light
08-31-2022, 06:15 AM
I'm American but my last name is Swedish.