NY Knicks Duo isnt that SUPER

[Rameek]

[QUOTE][B]BERMAN: Knicks' duo isn't as 'super' as Heat's

[COLOR="navy"]LeBron James and Dwyane Wade showed Monday night in Boston what

[Draz]

Completely right. Their not superstar status. Their good players. Amare with his size should grab rebounds, and be aggrassive like Dwight. Why would Amare be considered trade bait? Because we don't need two big men doing the same role. If he can rebound and play defense maybe we can fill other positions up.

[Clutch]

Durant made a superstar status but Melo isn't even though Melo has more rebounds and assists on a same shooting percentage.
Also Durant doesn't play any better defense than Melo.

This is a joke.

I also think Kobe isn't any better than Melo right now.Maybe you will disagree with me but I think Melo is more complete player than Kobe right now.
1st all-defensive team my ass.
His defense is the most overrated thing that I have ever seen.

Rose better than Melo ? Also very debatable.

I agree that Wade,LeBron and Dwight are real superstars,but Kobe and Durant aren't any better than Melo now.

[knickscity]

Articles like this really amaze me.

It would take Berman to state the obvious....

LeBron and Wade are the two of the five best in the game.

But it isn't just because of them alone.

They have always been in a situation where playing defense is a must, especially wade being under Riley's ingrained system.

LeBron also had one of the best minds on defense in Mike Brown for most of his career, and now has Riley's protege in Spo.

To see these guys perform isn't by accident.

I have met Berman personally, and like I said to him in his face.."He don't know shit, he's a hypocrite".

I had a thirty minute conversation at the Garden, back in 2007 with him, and later with Alan Hahn, while doing my tour assignment.

It was a game against the Mavs and Berman told me personally he thought Dirk was a superstar because of his uncanny scoring ability.

I specifically asked him "don't you want you superstar to do more than that?"

His answer was, "when you score like he does, he doesn't have to do anything else.".

I was literally like "wow".

I then asked him what does he call LeBron and Kobe then?

He said "another level".

Of course we discussed further which I can't put on here, but I told him he really needs to watch the games more and take the blinders off.

Of course the conversation didn't end on a positive note, but Alan Hahn and myself had a great conversation.

Bottom line though......

Melo is a superstar, Amar'e isn't.

But not for the reasons that Berman gave.

The attention they bring to any teams defense is all that needs to be seen.

Melo has shown he can only be contained when the opponents entire team channels their defense towards him, and even then it may not work.

That is a superstar to me.

Amar'e not so much, put a big on him that will lean and be willing to sacrifice his body and Amar'e can be easily taken out of his game.

That is a very good player, maybe elite, but not superstar.

But both players haven't had the luxury of playing for a coach or system that has anything remote to a defensive scheme at all, and I can't knock them for that.

If Berman thinks that Kevin Durant is a superstar, then no way he can say Melo isn't with a straight face.

No different with Dirk over Amar'e, although I don't think either is.

There is a difference to being the best in the game and being superstars.

LeBron and Wade are both.

[franchize]

If your nitpicking because players aren't James and Wade...yea you're right. But then again who is?You could very well make a case that they are the 2 best players in the game.(I have LeBron tied for second and Wade about 4th).I think Melo's performance versus arguably the best defensive team in the league (The Celtics) cements him now as a superstar.Say what you will about the popular rhetoric regarding Melo's defense but you have to admit he stepped up his defense in big games and his rebounding has been impressive. He also showed that he is probably the most unstoppable scorer in the league.

Amare isn't a superstar but he is a star and undoubtedly the one of the best pf in the league.He can compete at a high level with any player in the league and despite his defensive woes,is just as talented.

Therefore,both players are certainly considerations, if not locks, in anyone's top 10.At the end of the day,everyone can't get the best player in the league.What's worst is the Golden Girls decided to team up which makes the odds even less.So Knickscity is right,it's a ridiculous yet obvious statement. Thank you captian obvious for pointing out the fact that we don't have those guys but neither do 28 other teams.

[redrich2000]

I think this article is spot on and I really hope Amare and Melo take note that if they want to ranked amongst the games elite they have got to improve their defence.

I haven't seen heaps of Melo before this year but he gives the impression of someone who thinks his talent alone is enough, he lacks that intensity and will that Kobe and KG epitomise and that James and Wade have shown against the Celtics.

I would love to see the Knicks bring Ewing back as a coach so he could sit them down and tell them how much it hurts to have fallen just short.

[knickscity]

I think this article is spot on and I really hope Amare and Melo take note that if they want to ranked amongst the games elite they have got to improve their defence.

I haven't seen heaps of Melo before this year but he gives the impression of someone who thinks his talent alone is enough, he lacks that intensity and will that Kobe and KG epitomise and that James and Wade have shown against the Celtics.

I would love to see the Knicks bring Ewing back as a coach so he could sit them down and tell them how much it hurts to have fallen just short.
I'm calling bull on this.

All of KG's intensity didn't get him a ring as that guy, or even out the first round until he had TALENT around him.

I don't recall Kobe winning when Smush Parker was his backcourt mate either.

Bottom line...you have to have talent around the star players to win

I truly feel Amar'e should have at least made the finals 1 of those years.

Melo never had the chance to be in a winning situation.

[redrich2000]

I'm calling bull on this.

All of KG's intensity didn't get him a ring as that guy, or even out the first round until he had TALENT around him.

I don't recall Kobe winning when Smush Parker was his backcourt mate either.

Bottom line...you have to have talent around the star players to win

I truly feel Amar'e should have at least made the finals 1 of those years.

Melo never had the chance to be in a winning situation.

Yeah obviously that intensity alone doesn't win you a championship, that's not what I said.

[franchize]

My thing is when did it become bad to get two of the best players in the world? I think the sports media is part of the reason why the NBA isn't the most popular sport in the league.They overglorify roleplayers and bums and overcriticize the stars.It would have been more popular for the Knicks to stick with tryna make Gallinari and Chandler a dynamic duo while we hover around the 7th seed every year.That's sad.

NBA media loves mediocrity.Why? Well look closely...half of the analyst were just that in their playing career. Tim Legler,Greg Anthony,Jon Barry,Kenny Smith,Brent Barry,Brevin Knight, Eric Snow,Dennis Scott etc. These guys make me nauseous with their hour long speeches about players doing the little things and praising guys like Rajon Rondo and Kendrick Perkins.End of the day,it's about talent and cohesion.The Knicks of last year didn't have enough talent so it didn't matter how long they'd been together.PPL want to point out that guys liek Melo haven't won anything.What about the fact that theres only been one team that one a ring in the last 20 years that didn't have a big time star on it. The Detroit Pistons.N I still say the only reason they won is because Shaq n Kobe were fueding.

It's time to put the focus back on the players that impact they game the most.Im not saying overlook "the little things" but let's not underappreciate the BIG THINGS...like the fact that we now have 2 players that on any given night can get you 30 and possibly 40.Let's also not forget that we can go out and sign yet another superstar OR stack our team with incredible depth. To some my rant up,let's stop acting like having two of the best players in the NBA is a liability.

[NY-Knicks]

My thing is when did it become bad to get two of the best players in the world? I think the sports media is part of the reason why the NBA isn't the most popular sport in the league.They overglorify roleplayers and bums and overcriticize the stars.It would have been more popular for the Knicks to stick with tryna make Gallinari and Chandler a dynamic duo while we hover around the 7th seed every year.That's sad.

NBA media loves mediocrity.Why? Well look closely...half of the analyst were just that in their playing career. Tim Legler,Greg Anthony,Jon Barry,Kenny Smith,Brent Barry,Brevin Knight, Eric Snow,Dennis Scott etc. These guys make me nauseous with their hour long speeches about players doing the little things and praising guys like Rajon Rondo and Kendrick Perkins.End of the day,it's about talent and cohesion.The Knicks of last year didn't have enough talent so it didn't matter how long they'd been together.PPL want to point out that guys liek Melo haven't won anything.What about the fact that theres only been one team that one a ring in the last 20 years that didn't have a big time star on it. The Detroit Pistons.N I still say the only reason they won is because Shaq n Kobe were fueding.

It's time to put the focus back on the players that impact they game the most.Im not saying overlook "the little things" but let's not underappreciate the BIG THINGS...like the fact that we now have 2 players that on any given night can get you 30 and possibly 40.Let's also not forget that we can go out and sign yet another superstar OR stack our team with incredible depth. To some my rant up,let's stop acting like having two of the best players in the NBA is a liability.


Great post. :applause:

[franchize]

:D Why thank you

[redrich2000]

My thing is when did it become bad to get two of the best players in the world? I think the sports media is part of the reason why the NBA isn't the most popular sport in the league.They overglorify roleplayers and bums and overcriticize the stars.It would have been more popular for the Knicks to stick with tryna make Gallinari and Chandler a dynamic duo while we hover around the 7th seed every year.That's sad.

NBA media loves mediocrity.Why? Well look closely...half of the analyst were just that in their playing career. Tim Legler,Greg Anthony,Jon Barry,Kenny Smith,Brent Barry,Brevin Knight, Eric Snow,Dennis Scott etc. These guys make me nauseous with their hour long speeches about players doing the little things and praising guys like Rajon Rondo and Kendrick Perkins.End of the day,it's about talent and cohesion.The Knicks of last year didn't have enough talent so it didn't matter how long they'd been together.PPL want to point out that guys liek Melo haven't won anything.What about the fact that theres only been one team that one a ring in the last 20 years that didn't have a big time star on it. The Detroit Pistons.N I still say the only reason they won is because Shaq n Kobe were fueding.

It's time to put the focus back on the players that impact they game the most.Im not saying overlook "the little things" but let's not underappreciate the BIG THINGS...like the fact that we now have 2 players that on any given night can get you 30 and possibly 40.Let's also not forget that we can go out and sign yet another superstar OR stack our team with incredible depth. To some my rant up,let's stop acting like having two of the best players in the NBA is a liability.

You are right and there has been plenty of media making the argument you rightly criticise, but the article posted above doesn't argue that. In fact the article is premised on the idea that Amare and Melo could be as good as Wade and James and they could take the Knicks to the elite level, but to do that they need to improve their defense.

[Scoooter]

Or just sign Dwight.

[bluechox2]

its funny how when a player who used to be regaurded as elite status superstar joins the knicks, media suddenly shoots em down to a lower status.

if melo went to like another team not named the knicks, melo would not have to read about this bullshit.

[franchize]

I agree.Furthermore,maybe Melo not being LeBron is a good thing.Sure LeBron is better but what it we couldn't get a 3rd star here?Maybe it's good that we dont have the guy who runs away from challenges and needs a slaughter allstar team to win.Remember my old quote "If you can't beat em'...Bron em'!"
I'm not saying Melo is better but not only am I completely over us not getting LeBron,I actually liek having Melo around more.Him and Amare are so much more fun to watch on and off the court.LeBron james is probably the best player in the game right now but you know what...he's a sissy and a narcissistic asshole.F all three of em'.One thing we did win with was getting Amare instead of Bosh.Originally it seemed like Bosh would be the better choice but we clearly saw this year who can change a game and who takes a back seat.

[Rameek]

I took the article differently than some of you. I see it as what Melo and Stat must do to be superstars. Are they willing to do what it takes to lead a team in all facets of the game to the championship. I dont see the same effort or drive to be a champion. I dont think they leave everything on the court to be considered super stars. I think they are all stars but not LEET at the moment. They show flashes of greatness and moments... had they exhibited the intensity/effort at both ends of the floor along with the dirty things then sure they would get little argument from me about how bad the talent is around them because they do all they can a large percentage of the time.

No one wins championships without smart or solid NBA talent.

[knickscity]

The article is as obvious as it could be, and I'm speaking personally from having met him.

He is a very contradictory guy, he literally talks out the side of his mouth.

He calls LeBron and Wade superstars because they compete on both sides of the ball.

Yet brings up Durant and Dirk as if they do that as well.

Durant doesn't play a lick of defense yet has the build to be an excellent defender.

Dirk is only in the league because he is 7-0 with a lethal fadeaway.

If Berman really think Durant is a superstar, then he needs to stop shitting on Melo, because he does it just as well, if not better.

Amar'e is the best PF in the league, and I still don't think he is a superstar.

[knickscity]

I took the article differently than some of you. I see it as what Melo and Stat must do to be superstars. Are they willing to do what it takes to lead a team in all facets of the game to the championship. I dont see the same effort or drive to be a champion. I dont think they leave everything on the court to be considered super stars. I think they are all stars but not LEET at the moment. They show flashes of greatness and moments... had they exhibited the intensity/effort at both ends of the floor along with the dirty things then sure they would get little argument from me about how bad the talent is around them because they do all they can a large percentage of the time.

No one wins championships without smart or solid NBA talent.
You could have just quoted the article, you said the same thing.:D

I disagree with the latter though, just about every championship had a certified idiot on the team, or controversial player in their main rotation.

Those type wind up being x-factors which is integral to the team.


Artest
Baby or Nate
Odom or Vujacic
Sheed

It goes on and on.

But there must be an alpha-male on the team that all the players submit to.

I don't mean leader.

That guy for us has to be Melo.

To make it clear.

Pierce is Boston's leader, but KG is that Alpha male.

[Scoooter]

The article is as obvious as it could be, and I'm speaking personally from having met him.

He is a very contradictory guy, he literally talks out the side of his mouth.

He calls LeBron and Wade superstars because they compete on both sides of the ball.

Yet brings up Durant and Dirk as if they do that as well.

Durant doesn't play a lick of defense yet has the build to be an excellent defender.

Dirk is only in the league because he is 7-0 with a lethal fadeaway.

If Berman really think Durant is a superstar, then he needs to stop shitting on Melo, because he does it just as well, if not better.

Amar'e is the best PF in the league, and I still don't think he is a superstar.
You're way off base on Dirk. He's a good defender and defensive rebounder. Not as incredible defensively as he is offensively, but quite solid. And there's a lot more to his game than just an unguardable fadeaway. He's one of only, like four guys to have career playoff averages of 23 and 11 or something. And that's over a 13 year career.

Guy's a bona fide HOFer. I wish the Knicks had drafted him.

[knickscity]

You're way off base on Dirk. He's a good defender and defensive rebounder. Not as incredible defensively as he is offensively, but quite solid. And there's a lot more to his game than just an unguardable fadeaway. He's one of only, like four guys to have career playoff averages of 23 and 11 or something. And that's over a 13 year career.

Guy's a bona fide HOFer. I wish the Knicks had drafted him.
How was I way off base?

I said he's in the league because he's 7'0 and has an unstoppable fadeaway.

That is why he is still in the league.

He isn't in the League because of his defense, everyone would agree with that.

Dirk doesn't even have to win a ring to make the hall, it's a "Basketball HOF".

He's int'l, he'd make it even if average in the NBA.

I mentioned Dirk because Berman did in his article, and from personally talking in depth with him about it.

[Scoooter]

How was I way off base?

I said he's in the league because he's 7'0 and has an unstoppable fadeaway.
As if that's all there is to his game. And all Amar'e can do is jump high.


That is why he is still in the league.
He's still in the league because he's a franchise player who is better at basketball than pretty much everyone else on the planet.


He isn't in the League because of his defense, everyone would agree with that.
Neither is Melo. Or Amar'e. Or even Wade or LeBron or Kobe. The majority of superstars out there. I don't see the point. :confusedshrug:

Dirk doesn't even have to win a ring to make the hall, it's a "Basketball HOF".

He's int'l, he'd make it even if average in the NBA.
And if Muggsy Bogues were taller, he'd be a center. :wtf: Even if he's average in the NBA? You're talking about Dirk like he's a prospect or something, and not one of the consistently best players in the league for the past decade.


I mentioned Dirk because Berman did in his article, and from personally talking in depth with him about it.
I should probably read the article.

[Scoooter]

I have now read the article. There's nothing controversial in there. Dirk's better defensively than Melo, Amar'e, and Durant though. He's better period. He'd be a bigger superstar if he was an American. Or seemed more American, like Nash.

[Rameek]

I read where you spoke to him a few years ago and had a similar conversation. People arent allowed to change their opinion or thought processes?

I think Dirk and Durant does more on the court than Melo and Anthony IHO.

The article is as obvious as it could be, and I'm speaking personally from having met him.

He is a very contradictory guy, he literally talks out the side of his mouth.

He calls LeBron and Wade superstars because they compete on both sides of the ball.

Yet brings up Durant and Dirk as if they do that as well.

Durant doesn't play a lick of defense yet has the build to be an excellent defender.

Dirk is only in the league because he is 7-0 with a lethal fadeaway.

If Berman really think Durant is a superstar, then he needs to stop shitting on Melo, because he does it just as well, if not better.

Amar'e is the best PF in the league, and I still don't think he is a superstar.

[knickscity]

I read where you spoke to him a few years ago and had a similar conversation. People arent allowed to change their opinion or thought processes?

I think Dirk and Durant does more on the court than Melo and Anthony IHO.
And that's your opinion, I don't.

[knickscity]

I have now read the article. There's nothing controversial in there. Dirk's better defensively than Melo, Amar'e, and Durant though. He's better period. He'd be a bigger superstar if he was an American. Or seemed more American, like Nash.
Come on son, I know you don't believe that.

All of them are bad defenders including Dirk, especially Nash.

No one watching Nash would even put defense in the same word as him.

People rip Amar'e all day, every day about being a poor defender, but since Dirk is a foreign player he gets props for being average?

Melo defends when he wants to, we've all seen that.

I never said Dirk didn't play defense at all, he is average at best.

Berman article when comparing LeBron/Wade to Amar'e/Melo is that you always see the former locked in on defense.

Then there is no way Durant and Dirk can be in that category because they aren't always locked in on defense.

I think Kobe is though, but he clearly is on the decline.

But point is Dirk is not a superstar based on what Berman himself has said.

[Clutch]

I pretty much agree with knickscity.

Also Melo > Durant.

[knickscity]

I pretty much agree with knickscity.

Also Melo > Durant.
Had Melo won that scoring title, he would be in that spot, I truly feel based on how it's awarded.

My thing with Dirk, and I respect his offense, the guy is lights out.

But to prop his defense up because he is an int'l player, I can't do that.

His defense for his position as a 7 footer is not noteworthy.

It's the same stunt people use to boost up Manu, which I actually think is a solid player on both sides of the ball.

Bottom line to me, Berman flip flops his stance constantly.

I noted that when I met him and I still see it now.

[Clutch]

Had Melo won that scoring title, he would be in that spot, I truly feel based on how it's awarded.


Melo actually had more points per minute than Durant.

[knickscity]

Melo actually had more points per minute than Durant.
True, but I'm not knocking Durant for being there.

My issue is that Melo isn't there at all, when the only legit separation was Durant winning the scoring title.

I did go back and look and one season A.I. won the scoring title but was 2nd team all-nba.

But hard to give the nod over two NBA finalists I guess.

[Clutch]

True, but I'm not knocking Durant for being there.

My issue is that Melo isn't there at all, when the only legit separation was Durant winning the scoring title.

I did go back and look and one season A.I. won the scoring title but was 2nd team all-nba.

But hard to give the nod over two NBA finalists I guess.
I totally agree with this.

I don't have anything against Durant being in the 1st team.
But if Durant is in the 1st team and Melo isn't even on the list then it's something really wrong there.

[franchize]

I dont get why ppl pay attention to these "teams" anyway.Jason Kidd is like a 9 time all defensive team player n I dont think he is a good defender at all.

[knickscity]

I dont get why ppl pay attention to these "teams" anyway.Jason Kidd is like a 9 time all defensive team player n I dont think he is a good defender at all.
He's one of the all-time leaders in steals.

I think 3rd, but may have hit number 2.

[Clutch]

He's one of the all-time leaders in steals.

I think 3rd, but may have hit number 2.
Amare is one of the league leaders in blocks but he is still a poor defender.

I am just saying that stats aren't everything,especially on defense.

[knickscity]

Amare is one of the league leaders in blocks but he is still a poor defender.

I am just saying that stats aren't everything,especially on defense.
True but if you excel in those areas AND you're team is good, there is good chance you'd make that team.

Kidd is a good defender, but being up ther in steals all-time has alot of weight.

Kinda like Ben Wallace being All-NBA and can shoot for shit.

Because of his rebounding and blocks, like Mutumbo did.

[Scoooter]

Jason Kidd's a good defender. He did a great job on Kobe just a couple of weeks ago.

[Rameek]

Defense isnt really stat driven for ex look Bruce Bowen he was a very good defender but his stats dont reflect it.

[bluechox2]

lets just put it at the knicks team as a whole did not play defense and it reflects on the superstars

once the knicks get 2 defensive players to fill around stat and melo, that should mask any or all of their shortcomings and probably put them up into the top echelon

[franchize]

He's one of the all-time leaders in steals.

I think 3rd, but may have hit number 2.

He's also high on the 3 pointers made list but he's not a good 3 point shooter. AI used to get a lot of steals too and nobody considers him a good defender.

[Scoooter]

People don't really consider Jason Kidd a good defender because of how many steals he's gotten though. His size, his strength, his anticipation, his great hands, etc. He doesn't have the footspeed, but he can D up bigger guys.

[Da KO King]

Hey guys, been a minute. How is everyone?


I actually dislike the article because it furthers the notion that "superstar status" is an on-court thing when it simply is not. Superstars are the guys that become household names on a non-sports level. Superstars are the guys that do not need to wear team uniforms or apparel in non-sports commercial in order to get recognized.

Kobe Bryant is a super star; not cause of his defensive effort, but because my co-worker; who only found out that NBC no longer shows NBA games in November, knows who he is the instant she sees him. LeBron James, is a super star because even in a sweater and collared shirt in the State Farm commercial my grandma is more liking to ask "did that LeBron guy really crash his car?" than she is "how many 'wolf plays' (chase down transition blocks/steals) did LeBron get the other night?"

With all that said, I do think both Carmelo Anthony and and Amar'e Stoudemire could become excellent two-way players with a more defensively demanding coach. Neither Carmelo or Amar'e has played for a guy that emphasizes the defensive end of the floor.

[NY-Knicks]

Hey guys, been a minute. How is everyone?


I actually dislike the article because it furthers the notion that "superstar status" is an on-court thing when it simply is not. Superstars are the guys that become household names on a non-sports level. Superstars are the guys that do not need to wear team uniforms or apparel in non-sports commercial in order to get recognized.

Kobe Bryant is a super star; not cause of his defensive effort, but because my co-worker; who only found out that NBC no longer shows NBA games in November, knows who he is the instant she sees him. LeBron James, is a super star because even in a sweater and collared shirt in the State Farm commercial my grandma is more liking to ask "did that LeBron guy really crash his car?" than she is "how many 'wolf plays' (chase down transition blocks/steals) did LeBron get the other night?"

With all that said, I do think both Carmelo Anthony and and Amar'e Stoudemire could become excellent two-way players with a more defensively demanding coach. Neither Carmelo or Amar'e has played for a guy that emphasizes the defensive end of the floor.

Well said, the only superstars are Kobe and Lebron. They have great marketability and you can ask a random guy or girl on the street who they are and they'll know the answer. Dwyane Wade and Dwight Howard are getting up there too, just not on the level of Mamba and Bronzy.

The rest are just stars. And yes, Amar'e and Melo are stars.

[knickscity]

Hey guys, been a minute. How is everyone?


I actually dislike the article because it furthers the notion that "superstar status" is an on-court thing when it simply is not. Superstars are the guys that become household names on a non-sports level. Superstars are the guys that do not need to wear team uniforms or apparel in non-sports commercial in order to get recognized.

Kobe Bryant is a super star; not cause of his defensive effort, but because my co-worker; who only found out that NBC no longer shows NBA games in November, knows who he is the instant she sees him. LeBron James, is a super star because even in a sweater and collared shirt in the State Farm commercial my grandma is more liking to ask "did that LeBron guy really crash his car?" than she is "how many 'wolf plays' (chase down transition blocks/steals) did LeBron get the other night?"

With all that said, I do think both Carmelo Anthony and and Amar'e Stoudemire could become excellent two-way players with a more defensively demanding coach. Neither Carmelo or Amar'e has played for a guy that emphasizes the defensive end of the floor.

What's going on KO? It has been a minute for you.

I really can't say anything too much different as far as the super star title goes, when you put it like that.

That way makes it more exclusive, but most fans don't see it that way.

I fully agree Amar'e nor Melo has had a defensive system to work with in the NBA.

[Clutch]

Well said, the only superstars are Kobe and Lebron. They have great marketability and you can ask a random guy or girl on the street who they are and they'll know the answer. Dwyane Wade and Dwight Howard are getting up there too, just not on the level of Mamba and Bronzy.

The rest are just stars. And yes, Amar'e and Melo are stars.
In terms of popularity only superstars are Kobe and LeBron.
In my country basketball isn't popular like in the USA,many people know only about Kobe and LeBron.Some even don't know who LeBron is,but almost everyone heard about Kobe.

If I ask random guys on the street who Carmelo and Amare are, I don't think more than 5% would answer correctly.

[bluechox2]

is yao ming a s uperstar?

in that case u might as well take away the superstar tag and just call em celebrities

[franchize]

Yao is the 2nd most popular NBA player.I don't know if that makes him a superstar but celebrity...absolutely

[Scoooter]

Yao's a fantastic player. Definitely a superstar when he's healthy.

[knickballer]

Yao's a fantastic player. Definitely a superstar when he's healthy.


He was arguably the best center in the game before getting that foot injury. He will never be anything near that now.

[bluechox2]

would be good to snag yao with a vet min

[Clutch]

would be good to snag yao with a vet min
Then we would officially have the most injured center line in history of the league.
Turiaf and Yao :lol

[Rameek]

Anyone want to revisit this????

[Sarcastic]

Anyone want to revisit this????

Let's do it after D'Antoni is fired.

[Scoooter]

No coach in the world is going to fix Melo. Karl couldn't wait to get him out of there. He's too immature still.

[knickscity]

Let's do it after D'Antoni is fired.
:applause:

[Rameek]

Its all D'Antoni's fault. I see. This dude may never get fired....:ohwell:

[knicksman]

I would still choose amare and melo over the miami trio. I believe these 2 are more like bostons big 3 whos sum is better than its parts. If melo becomes a team player who will play the role of gallo/chandler/marion on this team, I believe this team will be better than miami. I prefer durant/allen/miller type of players who plays off the ball and melo clearly has the tools. If he can sacrifice stats just like amare who has been sacrificing stats ever since his 3rd year, this team has the potential. I hope he learns how to be a team player after this game. Thats why new york is the best team for him coz it has fans who can pressure him to change.