Kobe Bryant on His haters: "Shut up those motherfcuking folks saying...I'm done."

[Hulk Hogan]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/2011-05-11-kobebryant_N.htm


It also will be a different offseason for Bryant because he feels he is healthy enough to take on the type of training he couldn't do last season. Despite issues with a knee and a foot, Bryant indicated he wouldn't take a "gamble" with any procedure that might keep him from working out as he wants to do.

"I'm actually alright, my foot is a little swollen, other than that, OK," Bryant said. "It will be a good chance to train. … I didn't have a chance to grind like I like to. This summer I have that chance."

What exactly does that mean?

"This offseason gives me chance to really go at it, to get as strong as I can. … There's another level I feel I can get to," Bryant said. "I feel fine, I definitely feel I can play longer. Just a lot of strengthening, make sure my leg gets strong. … Shut up those mo' folks saying that I'm done."


Kobe's going to have to come in off the bench by next season.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

[Mr Clutch Melo]

http://images.cheezburger.com/completestore/2010/7/24/abae0754-e3c6-4759-80cc-2270f1acc5ed.jpg

[LBJ4MVP23]

Only an idiot would say hes done. You dont' go from top 5 player in the NBA to done in a year.

Kobe will come back next year and slowly regress because of all the mileage. He will no longer be a top 5 player though, but top 10 is still amazing.

[kaiiu]

prove us wrong next year Kobe:applause:

[Rysio]

expect a big season from kobe. 2008 like. :applause:

[Hulk Hogan]

Only an idiot would say hes done. You dont' go from top 5 player in the NBA to done in a year.

Kobe will come back next year and slowly regress because of all the mileage. He will no longer be a top 5 player though, but top 10 is still amazing.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

Are you going to leave ISH when Kobe averages 28 ppg on 47% shooting? :rolleyes:

[BEAST Griffin]

More excuses for the stans of why he didn't show up. Go figure. Not like the dude usually bails out when things are tough.

:rolleyes:

[DMAVS41]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Are you going to leave ISH when Kobe averages 28 ppg on 47% shooting? :rolleyes:

LOL at the idea of Kobe ever shooting 47% on any ppg volume....let alone 28.

Why you still here?

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt73/_primetime_pics/dirk_lulz_2.jpg

[LEFT4DEAD]

So he dont have any excuse for chocking and quiting vs Mavs. I expected him to say that he had bruised ankle or smt like that. Alright then.

[Micku]

We'll see. The Mavs lost was pretty embarrassing, so we'll how the Lakers respond next year.

Bookmark the thread for epicness.

[HylianNightmare]

i expect him to drop 100 next year












every game

[swi7ch]

Kobe has finally entered the washed-up stage.

[CasterL]

Swear this nonce claimed he was leaving if Lakers lost.

[Harison]

Kobe is far from done, he can contribute on elite level for few more years, and after that as solid role player on rebuilding Lakers.

[Hulk Hogan]

LOL at the idea of Kobe ever shooting 47% on any ppg volume....let alone 28.


in Both 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 he shot 48% till he got injured around Jan/Feb both years...

There was even an article about it... So if he doesn't get injured around that Jan/Feb time, he will shoot that percentage.

[blaze_itt]

More excuses for the stans of why he didn't show up. Go figure. Not like the dude usually bails out when things are tough.

:rolleyes:
lol talk about being a hater. this is not an excuse for last season. he is just talking about the future and ability to train more due to the early exit.

[(e)]

LOL at the idea of Kobe ever shooting 47% on any ppg volume....let alone 28.

Why you still here?

http://i599.photobucket.com/albums/tt73/_primetime_pics/dirk_lulz_2.jpg

:roll: :roll:

[olddangerfield]

He should just fully conserve his energy, it's obvious the Lakers just ran out of gas and became cold at the same time the Mavs became red hot. I mean game 4 was an absolute joke as far as 3-point discrepancy. Doesn't fully excuse them I know but there's a reason no team has gone back to four straight finals since the 60's celtics.

[DMAVS41]

in Both 2009-2010 and 2010-2011 he shot 48% till he got injured around Jan/Feb both years...

There was even an article about it... So if he doesn't get injured around that Jan/Feb time, he will shoot that percentage.

Excuses.....weak excuses at that.

[pauk]

http://img803.imageshack.us/img803/1160/dirkules.jpg

[Wade3]

KoBe is one of the greatest ever, a basketball legend

he doesn't need to prove anything

[blacknapalm]

just like how he said he believed LA can still win the series vs. mavs. i'm looking forward to mavs vs. LA tonight on tnt

[Hulk Hogan]

Excuses.....weak excuses at that.

Weak excuses? those are facts!

Just like he facts says that Lebron, Wade and Durant usually start off the first half of the season shooting bad and then eventually get in rhythm and catch up after that.

Kobe is the opposite, he starts out the season shooting well then plummet at the end because of injury. We all know Kobe is known to play through any injury. He never seats out, so his stats suffer!

It shows you that Kobe is better than his percentage states.
You just don't want to hear it because its the truth.

[DMAVS41]

Weak excuses? those are facts!

Just like he facts says that Lebron, Wade and Durant usually start off the first half of the season shooting bad and then eventually get in rhythm and catch up after that.

Kobe is the opposite, he starts out the season shooting well then plummet at the end because of injury.

It shows you that Kobe is better than his percentage states.
You just don't want to hear it because its the truth.

Here are the actual facts.

Kobe has never shot 47% his entire career in the regular season. Thats the only fact that matters. What you are saying is pure speculation.

Kobe never sits out:

His first 9 years:
71 games
79 games
66 games
68 games
80 games
82 games
65 games
66 games

Lets not act like Kobe is Dirk in terms of never missing games......

[DeronMillsap]

lol talk about being a hater. this is not an excuse for last season. he is just talking about the future and ability to train more due to the early exit.
But he has no future. That ni99a is done, finished, dead...he ain't coming back to being an elite player.

[JustinJDW]

I'm sure next year he'll still be live up to his self-proclaimed Black Mamba nickname that he stole from Kill Bill. :cheers:

[Hulk Hogan]

Here are the actual facts.

Kobe has never shot 47% his entire career in the regular season. Thats the only fact that matters. What you are saying is pure speculation.
.

Pure Speculation?

Through the first 40+ games... Kobe shot over 48% in 09-10 till he got injured!

That's FACT brother! You can look at this year and see the same correlation!

[DMAVS41]

Pure Speculation?

Through the first 40+ games... Kobe shot over 48% in 09-10 till he got injured!

That's FACT brother! You can look at this year and see the same correlation!

But we don't know what would have happened. Kobe, even when healthy, has never shot over 47% for his career.

Don't you think at some point he would have done it? He's had every chance. He was a 2nd option for 8 years and didn't do it. He's had loaded teams and crappy teams and never did it.

He's never done it.

I'm not saying he can't, I'm saying I will believe it when I see it.

And there is no evidence at all to suggest that he's going to do that when he's never done it before.

Got it?

[Rysio]

But he has no future. That ni99a is done, finished, dead...he ain't coming back to being an elite player.
:rolleyes:

[chazzy]

Pure Speculation?

Through the first 40+ games... Kobe shot over 48% in 09-10 till he got injured!

That's FACT brother! You can look at this year and see the same correlation!
He shot poorly to start this season. The only thing you can really do is look back at his 09 season, which was his last fully healthy one, and see that he averaged 27 on 47%. Ideally he'll strengthen his knee this offseason and get back to the mid to low block the way he did during the beginning of the 2010 season.. but keep in mind Pau was out during most of that month. There was more room to operate down there with Odom's spacing, so it's tough to consistently get that position with two other low post players.

I saw the exit interviews and it was encouraging to hear him say that he never felt that he got time to build his strength back after his knee surgery, meaning his dropoff this season may not be as bad as it seemed. No amount of training will give him back his control of the ball and consistency in his pull up jumper though - his hand is screwed.

[OldSchoolBBall]

But we don't know what would have happened. Kobe, even when healthy, has never shot over 47% for his career.

Don't you think at some point he would have done it? He's had every chance. He was a 2nd option for 8 years and didn't do it. He's had loaded teams and crappy teams and never did it.

He's never done it.

I'm not saying he can't, I'm saying I will believe it when I see it.

And there is no evidence at all to suggest that he's going to do that when he's never done it before.

Got it?

Co-sign. These fuc*ing stans are delusional. :oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

Co-sign. These fuc*ing stans are delusional. :oldlol:

Yep.

I forgot that Kobe has been injured his entire career. Thats why he's never shot 47%.

LOL

[Hulk Hogan]

But we don't know what would have happened. Kobe, even when healthy, has never shot over 47% for his career.

Don't you think at some point he would have done it? He's had every chance. He was a 2nd option for 8 years and didn't do it. He's had loaded teams and crappy teams and never did it.

He's never done it.

I'm not saying he can't, I'm saying I will believe it when I see it.

And there is no evidence at all to suggest that he's going to do that when he's never done it before.

Got it?

No you don't got it. Your hate is clouding your judgment!
No one in his right mind will say Chris Paul low stats are not because of his injury.


you are saying because he didn't do it in the past, he won't do it now.
Well Kobe is not the same player as he was in the past. He is a much better player now, more skilled, more trained, better coached. The situation around him is different.

Secondly that is a false notion because he has done it, not for an entire season because of INJURY! Something you don't want to accept because of your hate.

Yet you are the first one to make excuses for Wade when he plays through any minor injury and have a bad game. Remember Game 1 against sixers? When Wade played bad, you were the one who said its because of the headaches.

But when it comes to kobe playing through a REAL injury. You claim its not a factor that he wasn't able to sustain his shooting percentage in 09 or this year.

The fact stats he was shooting 48% till he got injured in 09...

The facts also stat he was shooting 47% this year in feb till he had the ankle injury!

Its the facts no matter how you want to spin it. Why is it that his stats drops once he gets injured? Why is it he has multiple 3/14 kind of performances after it?

Oh wait... He all of the sudden starts shooting around the 30 percentage for weeks? ok... whatever helps you sleep better at night!

[DMAVS41]

No you don't got it. Your hate is clouding your judgment!
No one in his right mind will say Chris Paul low stats are not because of his injury.


you are saying because he didn't do it in the past, he won't do it now.
That is a false notion because he has done it, not for an entire season because of INJURY! Something you don't want to accept because of your hate.

Yet you are the first one to make excuses for Wade when he plays through any minor injury and have a bad game. Remember Game 1 against sixers? When Wade played bad, you were the one who said its because of the headaches.

But when it comes to kobe playing to a REAL injury. You claim its not a factor that he wasn't able to sustain his shooting percentage in 09 or this year.

The fact stats he was shooting 48% till he got injured in 09...

The facts also stat he was shooting 47% this year in feb till he had the ankle injury!

Its the facts no matter how you want to spin it. Why is it that his stats drops once he gets injured? Why is it he multiple 3/14 kind of performances after it?

Oh wait... He all of the sudden starts shooting 30 percentage for weeks? ok... whatever helps you sleep better at night!


What are you going on about?

Kobe very well may have shot over 47% last year or this year without injuries. He also may have not done that without injuries.

Its pure speculation especially because Kobe has never done that before even when healthy in his entire career.

You can't just project that way. We simply don't know. Never will. Sorry.

[LAClipsFan33]

http://imageshack.us/m/689/1989/dirknowitzki2009headban.jpg

[kaiiu]

Ill take Kobes 45 % on the difficult jumpers gladly. Everybody cant shoot layups all the time:rolleyes:

[Askmeificare]

http://imageshack.us/m/713/6753/photofishinggroup.jpg

[drizzy0503]

http://imageshack.us/m/713/6753/photofishinggroup.jpg
:oldlol: :oldlol: genius

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Everybody that's saying Kobe's done for good is making a fool outta themselves.
Don't forget that there is a good chance for that lockout everyone's talking about. You never know, that plays to Kobe's advantage.

[Hulk Hogan]

What are you going on about?

Kobe very well may have shot over 47% last year or this year without injuries. He also may have not done that without injuries.

Its pure speculation especially because Kobe has never done that before even when healthy in his entire career.

You can't just project that way. We simply don't know. Never will. Sorry.

Its not speculation, its statistics!
Once Kobe got injured his shooting percentage dropped drastically. I believe in 09 he shot 30% for about a month or so afterwards...

Its not a coincidence!

If I dropped a ball from a building and someone came and caught it at the last seconds. We can determine that if the person had not caught it, it would have hit the ground.

That's not speculation that's logic and reasoning.

[PJR]

http://tinyimg.comoj.com/pictures/f0acbfa1dfd11b917879bc357bf64447.jpg

[PowerGlove]

Dude has declined so fast and with so many miles on his body, where is this improvement supposed to come from?

[bond10]

Well that's wonderful. Glad to see Kobe still in it for a few more years. The Mavs will be waiting with their brooms. :D

[DMAVS41]

Its not speculation, its statistics!
Once Kobe got injured his shooting percentage dropped drastically. I believe in 09 he shot 30% for about a month or so afterwards...

Its not a coincidence!

If I dropped a ball from a building and someone came and caught it at the last seconds. We can determine that if the person had not caught it, it would have hit the ground.

That's not speculation that's logic and reasoning.

Yep. Exactly.

But we don't know if he would have kept it up without an injury. Sorry, the evidence doesn't support it either.

Speculation.

[Hulk Hogan]

Yep. Exactly.

But we don't know if he would have kept it up without an injury. Sorry, the evidence doesn't support it either.

Speculation.

So if i go from shooting 50% in a month... get injuryed and shoot 30% the next 5 games... there's no correlation? Ok... :oldlol:

[macpierce]

ill see it to believe it

[STATUTORY]

Dude has declined so fast and with so many miles on his body, where is this improvement supposed to come from?

Kobe's decline is so overstated, the man scored 25 on limited mins this year. Where is the decline? oh you are referring to when he injured his ankle towards the end of the season,

once Kobe heals up. he'll be posting nikkas up all over again.

[PowerGlove]

Kobe's decline is so overstated, the man scored 25 on limited mins this year. Where is the decline? oh you are referring to when he injured his ankle towards the end of the season,

once Kobe heals up. he'll be posting nikkas up all over again.

I'm speaking of his decline athletically. He still puts up great stats due to skill, but that cant cover it up forever.

[gleden]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/2011-05-11-kobebryant_N.htm





:roll: :roll: :roll:


Why are you still here? Youre not a man of your word i see. Well nobody really expected you to leave, knowing you.

[DMAVS41]

So if i go from shooting 50% in a month... get injuryed and shoot 30% the next 5 games... there's no correlation? Ok... :oldlol:

Absolutely there is a correlation.

But what is your excuse for all the other years Kobe never did it? You act like Kobe dropping from 48% shooting down to 45% shooting is something that can only be explained by injury.

It can be explained by so many factors. Fatigue, tougher competition, cold streaks.....etc.

Keep in mind Hulk:

Kobe has never shot 47% in any regular season ever. How do you explain that? Please answer.

[DRoseOwnsACamry]

So, not only did he not leave like he said he would, he also didn't follow through with an avy bet.

Hulk Hogan= Laker's version of PleezeBelieve

[Nevaeh]

I'm speaking of his decline athletically. He still puts up great stats due to Volume Shooting, but that cant cover it up forever.

His "Skill" has not, for even one season, helped him to shoot over 45%.I'm still trying to figure out exactly where he's applying this "much coveted Skill" of his.

[BlueCrayon]

Something interesting I found on the Lakers:
http://didthelakersgetswept.com/

[Hulk Hogan]

Absolutely there is a correlation.

But what is your excuse for all the other years Kobe never did it? You act like Kobe dropping from 48% shooting down to 45% shooting is something that can only be explained by injury.

It can be explained by so many factors. Fatigue, tougher competition, cold streaks.....etc.

Keep in mind Hulk:

Kobe has never shot 47% in any regular season ever. How do you explain that? Please answer.

This has nothing to do with 09 or this year.
The fact is that Kobe was way on his way to average 48% or higher till injury struck. The huge stats differental before and after are the evidence.

Just like Wade shot horribly his first few games of the season because of his injury. and guess what? You were the first one playing the injury card when I called out Wade for playing horrible against the boston celtics in the reg season.

Now all of a sudden injury doesn't matter, I guess Wade would have shot the same horrible percentage at the start of the season aswell if he wasn't injured right? :oldlol:

Well that's what you are saying about kobe.... Oh wait I see, your logic and reasoning changes because of your loyalty or distaste toward a specific individual? It all makes sense now! :rolleyes:

[nba_55]

Didnt you say that you would leave?
http://www.whatifcreative.com/img/portfolio/clean_sweep_logo_300.gif

[DMAVS41]

This has nothing to do with 09 or this year.
The fact is that Kobe was way on his way to average 48% or higher till injury struck. The huge stats differental before and after are the evidence.

Just like Wade shot horribly his first few games of the season because of his injury. and guess what? You were the first one playing the injury card when I called out Wade for playing horrible against the boston celtics in the reg season.

Now all of a sudden injury doesn't matter, I guess Wade would have shot the same horrible percentage at the start of the season aswell if he wasn't injured right? :oldlol:

Well that's what you are saying for kobe.... Oh wait I see, does your logic change because of your loyalty or distaste toward a specific individual? It all makes sense now! :rolleyes:

I'm having a legit discussion with you.

You are using pure speculation to assume Kobe would have done something he's never done before in any year of his entire career.

I'm being reasonable. I'm saying the injury was a factor, but its speculation to assume he just continues playing that efficient when there is absolutely not history or evidence to support Kobe continuing on like that even when healthy.

Facts:

In no season has Kobe shot 47% in his entire career regardless of circumstances.

And I'm supposed to just blindly assume he would have done it this year if not for some injuries? Why? What about the years he wasn't injured?

There is no evidence to support this. That is the flaw in all of your posts.

[catch24]

His "Skill" has not, for even one season, helped him to shoot over 45%.I'm still trying to figure out exactly where he's applying this "much coveted Skill" of his.

He averaged 31.6 on 46.3% in '07, 28.5 on 46.4% in '01, and 25.2 on 47% in '02.

But yeah, there's no way he's gonna come out next year and average 26-28+ on that efficiency. He's strictly a jump shooter these days.

[Nevaeh]

He averaged 31.6 on 46.3% in '07, 28.5 on 46.4% in '01, and 25.2 on 47% in '02.

But yeah, there's no way he's gonna come out next year and average 26-28+ on that efficiency. He's strictly a jump shooter these days.

All he has to do is move his shots in about 5 feet and stick to it. there's a reason why 3's have always been a low percentage shot. 46.5% is a bit better than 45% though, but not for someone who's always been primarily an offensive player.

[Hulk Hogan]

I'm having a legit discussion with you.

You are using pure speculation to assume Kobe would have done something he's never done before in any year of his entire career.

I'm being reasonable. I'm saying the injury was a factor, but its speculation to assume he just continues playing that efficient when there is absolutely not history or evidence to support Kobe continuing on like that even when healthy.

Facts:

In no season has Kobe shot 47% in his entire career regardless of circumstances.

And I'm supposed to just blindly assume he would have done it this year if not for some injuries? Why? What about the years he wasn't injured?

There is no evidence to support this. That is the flaw in all of your posts.

Here is what you are saying.
If I shot 50% for 10 games and then get injured and shoot 30% for the next 10 games and I was playing really injured ok?

The result is a 40% FG for the entire 20 games.

Your conclusion is that: Injury was a factor. But I would have shot 30% for those 10 games anyway EVEN if I wasn't injured and eventually end up with the same 40% Field goal percentage!

WTF? that doesn't make any sense! :facepalm

[DMAVS41]

Here is what you are saying.
If I shot 50% for 10 games and then get injured and shoot 30% for the next 10 games and I was playing really injured ok?

The result is a 40% FG for the entire 20 games.

Your conclusion is that: Injury was a factor. But I would have shot 30% for those 10 games anyway EVEN if I wasn't injured!

WTF? that doesn't make any sense! :facepalm

Absolutely not.

I'm saying that Kobe might have trailed off even without the injury....as he has done time and time again throughout his career when perfectly healthy.

I have no idea what he would have shot without any injuries the last 2 years. He might have taken worse shots if he was healthy and had more confidence.

Who knows. Its pure speculation.

And to top it off. Kobe has never done it before....even when fully healthy. LOL

Hulk. Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself as usual.

LOL at the idea of blaming solely injuries when a fully healthy prime/peak Kobe never did it.

[Doranku]

He could shoot 47-48% if LA gets Dwight. :D

[Samurai Swoosh]

I'm sure next year he'll still be live up to his self-proclaimed Black Mamba nickname that he stole from Kill Bill. :cheers:
Yea, he did ... but it's cool. Hell, his Nike logo is stolen from the guy who creates those special samurai swords in the movie. "Hatori Hanzo" swords ..

:pimp:

As for the topic at hand ... I like the idea of a motivated Kobe going into next season.

[DMAVS41]

He could shoot 47-48% if LA gets Dwight. :D

For sure.

[Hulk Hogan]

Absolutely not.

I'm saying that Kobe might have trailed off even without the injury....as he has done time and time again throughout his career when perfectly healthy.

I have no idea what he would have shot without any injuries the last 2 years. He might have taken worse shots if he was healthy and had more confidence.

Who knows. Its pure speculation.

And to top it off. Kobe has never done it before....even when fully healthy. LOL

Hulk. Just stop. You are embarrassing yourself as usual.

LOL at the idea of blaming solely injuries when a fully healthy prime/peak Kobe never did it.

You are delusional. notice how you avoid the question!
So you are saying that kobe would have still shot 30% in those 10 games?

He has to have the same TERRIBLE shooting performance in those span of games to trail off.

You see how you don't make sense? As I said, here is what you are saying according to my example!

Your conclusion is that: Injury was a factor. But I would have shot 30% for those 10 games anyway EVEN if I wasn't injured and eventually end up with the same 40% Field goal percentage!

[DMAVS41]

You are delusional. notice how you avoid the question!
So you are saying that kobe would have still shot 30% in those 10 games?

Exactly!

He might have. Who knows? This is a player that is know for horrid cold streaks and terrible shot selection.

There is a reason his career fg% is 45%. My god man. You act like this guy has routinely shot over 47% for his career when he's never ****ing done it before.

Who knows what he would have done. Its pure speculation.

[NugzHeat3]

For sure.
It never happened while playing next to the MDE. What makes you think it's gonna happen next to Dwight?

[STATUTORY]

people who obsess over FG% never realize how inconsequential that 1% difference really is. it amounts to less than 1 shot every two games

[DMAVS41]

It never happened while playing next to the MDE. What makes you think it's gonna happen next to Dwight?

It would be all mental. Stop ball stopping at the three point line. Stop trying to run ISO.

I have no doubt he could do it, its a matter of him actually playing well enough and smart enough to do it.

Which has always been the case with Kobe.

[NugzHeat3]

It would be all mental. Stop ball stopping at the three point line. Stop trying to run ISO.

I have no doubt he could do it, its a matter of him actually playing well enough and smart enough to do it.

Which has always been the case with Kobe.
So, you're expecting him to change his game? Sorry, that is not happening. I'll believe it when I see it.

[Hulk Hogan]

He might have. Who knows? This is a player that is know for horrid cold streaks and terrible shot selection.

There is a reason his career fg% is 45%. My god man. You act like this guy has routinely shot over 47% for his career when he's never ****ing done it before.

Who knows what he would have done. Its pure speculation.

Again you are not using logic. You keep avoiding it.

He has to shoot as horrible as he did in those span of games to get back down to 45%.

You keep avoiding the logic, infact you are the one making the speculation that Kobe would still have had a cold streak identical to his terrible shooting performance during his injury.

You are the one making the speculation. Don't you see the delusion in your post?

I'm the one using logic you are the one using speculation!

Logic says he would have ended up shooting 47%, higher or around it.
You are the one speculating he would have gone on a cold streak identical to the one while he was injured.

[StackzUp]

I don't think Kobe is done, but I'm not sure what he is claiming is true. Seems like he took a beating this year. Either way I'm sure he will be working hard this offseason.

[talkingconch]

no one cares, hes got 5 rings, chance at more, mavs played well, now stfu

holy shit, wonder what'll happen if the heat rape the mavs :facepalm

[DMAVS41]

Again you are not using logic. You keep avoiding it.

He has to shoot as horrible as he did in those span of games to get back down to 45%.

You keep avoiding the logic, infact you are the one making the speculation that Kobe would still have had a cold streak identical to his terrible shooting performance during his injury.

You are the one making the speculation. Don't you see the delusion in your post?

I'm the one using logic you are the one using speculation!

You act like its not possible for him to go on a cold streak. Kobe played 82 games this year. Thats not being injured. If you are injured you can't play.

And since all of these "injuries"....Kobe's efficiency has maintained right at his career averages....so they aren't impacting him much at all....if any stats wise.

Now, lets look at a sample of Kobe's games from the 04 season in the playoffs in which he had no injuries:

41%
50%
45%
42%
42%
42%
42%
35%
37%
52%
31%
32%
33%

Kobe was fully healthy.

[talkingconch]

You act like its not possible for him to go on a cold streak. Kobe played 82 games this year. Thats not being injured. If you are injured you can't play.

And since all of these "injuries"....Kobe's efficiency has maintained right at his career averages....so they aren't impacting him much at all....if any stats wise.

Now, lets look at a sample of Kobe's games from the 04 season in the playoffs in which he had no injuries:

41%
50%
45%
42%
42%
42%
42%
35%
37%
52%
31%
32%
33%

Kobe was fully healthy.

no one cares, hes got 5 rings, chance at more, mavs played well, now stfu

holy shit, wonder what'll happen if the heat rape the mavs :facepalm

[Hulk Hogan]

You act like its not possible for him to go on a cold streak. Kobe played 82 games this year. Thats not being injured. If you are injured you can't play.


BULLSHIT!!!

We know kobe plays through nearly any injury!
Injury 99% of NBA players usually sit out on!

I remember when Lebron sat out acouple of days cause he hurt his pinky! :hammerhead: :oldlol:

You keep doing your usual history revisionary. Shit won't work with me!

The facts state that if you take out the games Kobe played with injury in 09-10. He would have shot over 47%!

Deal with it!

[DMAVS41]

BULLSHIT!!!

We know kobe plays through nearly any injury!
Injury 99% of NBA players usually sit out on!

I remember when Lebron sat out acouple of days cause he hurt his pinky! :hammerhead: :oldlol:

You keep doing your usual history revisionary. Shit won't work with me!

The facts state that if you take out the games Kobe played with injury in 09-10. He would have shot over 47%!

Deal with it!

You need to learn the definition of a fact first. What about the games that Kobe played well with the injury. Are you taking those out as well?

So pathetic Hulk.

Cry me a river. The dude has never shot over 47% and I'm supposed to think the only reason is injuries. So he's been hurt every single year of his career?

[DMAVS41]

no one cares, hes got 5 rings, chance at more, mavs played well, now stfu

holy shit, wonder what'll happen if the heat rape the mavs :facepalm

if the heat rape the mavs? i have no idea. i have no idea what that has to do with this debate.

but if it did happen? Hulk would probably be on suicide watch. Because apparently this Mavs team is ****ing great and thats why the Lakers lost.....

but how can this juggernaut of a mavs team lose to two over-rated players like wade and lebron? so its either the Lakers got beat by a huge underdog.....or the heat would knock off a great team.

both scenarios make Hulk want to cry.

[Hulk Hogan]

You need to learn the definition of a fact first. What about the games that Kobe played well with the injury. Are you taking those out as well?

So pathetic Hulk.

Cry me a river. The dude has never shot over 47% and I'm supposed to think the only reason is injuries. So he's been hurt every single year of his career?

Notice I said "if you take out the games Kobe played with injury in 09-10" and not the games he played bad or good.

Your bullshit revisionary doesn't work on me gino!

[Hulk Hogan]

if the heat rape the mavs? i have no idea. i have no idea what that has to do with this debate.

but if it did happen? Hulk would probably be on suicide watch. Because apparently this Mavs team is ****ing great and thats why the Lakers lost.....

but how can this juggernaut of a mavs team lose to two over-rated players like wade and lebron? so its either the Lakers got beat by a huge underdog.....or the heat would knock off a great team.

both scenarios make Hulk want to cry.

Heat would murder the mavs.
Lakers = the worst perimeter defense this year.
Miami = one of the best perimeter defense this year.

Chris Paul almost single handly beat them usig the pick and roll. If he had the shooters dallas had, they would have swept the lakers.

Phil hasn't coached for years! Lakers defensive coach needs to be executed!

Mavs won't even make it past the WCF anyway if they meet memphis.

[DMAVS41]

Notice I said "if you take out the games Kobe played with injury in 09-10" and not the games he played bad or good.

Your bullshit revisionary doesn't work on me gino!

What?

You aren't even making sense anymore.

[DMAVS41]

Heat would murder the mavs.
Lakers = the worst perimeter defense this year.
Miami = one of the best perimeter defense this year.

Chris Paul almost single handly beat them usig the pick and roll. If he had the shooters dallas had, they would have swept the lakers.

Phil hasn't coached for years! Lakers defensive coach needs to be executed!

Mavs won't even make it past the WCF anyway if they meet memphis.


1. The bold is actually completely false
2. Which player plays the most minutes on the perimeter for the Lakers? Kobe Bean Bryant
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[Big#50]

His shot selection will not let him shoot 47%. Injuries or not, he takes stupid ****ing shots.

[Semi]

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/basketball/nba/lakers/2011-05-11-kobebryant_N.htm





:roll: :roll: :roll:


still here? just tell jeff he has to do a ip-ban. it's pretty easy.

[Knoe Itawl]

DMavs I have this moron on ignore. But you quote him so I'm forced to briefly see some of what he writes. Please stop.

[DMAVS41]

DMavs I have this moron on ignore. But you quote him so I'm forced to briefly see some of what he writes. Please stop.

As you wish.

[Hulk Hogan]

1. The bold is actually completely false
2. Which player plays the most minutes on the perimeter for the Lakers? Kobe Bean Bryant
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I know you are an idiot, but there is something called defensive rotation... Which the lakers were oblivious to.

You saw byum, odom and gasol arguing about what they should do.

You saw Kobe, artest, fisher, barnes, blake, consistently leave the shooters open. no one rotated!

It was the defensive scheme being run.

It had nothing to do with Kobe but everything to do with the defensive scheme the coach established.

Every shooter was left open. We were destroyed with the P & R no matter who ran it.

Even Fcuking berea, tore us apart.

The blame is on the coach not the players.

[Doranku]

As you wish.

DMavs I have this moron on ignore. But you quote him so I'm forced to briefly see some of what he writes. Please stop.

[Hulk Hogan]

This message is hidden because Knoe Itawl is on your ignore list.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

[kaiiu]

only nerds like Gino care about a GUARD shooting 45%:oldlol:

[DuMa]

maybe kobe will finally give a damn on defense.

[Simple Jack]

Why hasn't this clown left ISH like he said he would?
:roll: at him speculating anything after his beloved Lakers got swept.

Can't wait to quote the "what will be the excuse after LeBron/Wade don't win the ring this year" in June.

[Hulk Hogan]

Why hasn't this clown left ISH like he said he would?
:roll: at him speculating anything after his beloved Lakers got swept.

Can't wait to quote the "what will be the excuse after LeBron/Wade don't win the ring this year" in June.

So are you saying miami will win it all this year? Yes or no?

[C-Webb4]

Only an idiot would say hes done. You dont' go from top 5 player in the NBA to done in a year.

Kobe will come back next year and slowly regress because of all the mileage. He will no longer be a top 5 player though, but top 10 is still amazing.
He's not done.. but he's also not a top 5 player...

Lebron, Wade, Durant, Howard, Dirk, Melo, and Rose (in no particular order) were all better.

[Simple Jack]

So are you saying miami will win it all this year? Yes or no?

I had them winning in my bracket. Yes, that's my prediction.

The difference is, I wasn't calling people clowns/trolls who put Lakers, or OKC in the Finals like you and your apostles.

Again, why haven't you left after the embarrassing sweep of the Lakers?

[Hulk Hogan]

I had them winning in my bracket. Yes, that's my prediction.

The difference is, I wasn't calling people clowns/trolls who put Lakers, or OKC in the Finals like you and your apostles.

Again, why haven't you left after the embarrassing sweep of the Lakers?

:roll: :roll: :roll:

This will make a good bump when Pierce tap that ass in south beach tonight! :oldlol:

[ukplayer4]

Here is what you are saying.
If I shot 50% for 10 games and then get injured and shoot 30% for the next 10 games and I was playing really injured ok?

The result is a 40% FG for the entire 20 games.

Your conclusion is that: Injury was a factor. But I would have shot 30% for those 10 games anyway EVEN if I wasn't injured and eventually end up with the same 40% Field goal percentage!

WTF? that doesn't make any sense! :facepalm



no, he is clearing saying that we cannot say for certain you WOULD have continued to shoot 50%, due to other factors. that pretty clear to anybody reading this thread, but then, you are different from most people..

[LA_Showtime]

This is why I think Kobe will eventually damage his legacy. He is not going to bow out gracefully. Wonderful.

[Simple Jack]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

This will make a good bump when Pierce tap that ass in south beach tonight! :oldlol:

I can make a compilation post of all the trolling you did about the Lakers winning it all or destroying Dallas? :roll:

[Mikaiel]

Paul Pierce and Ray Allen both had their best shooting seasons this year, so why is it so unreasonable to say Kobe could have shot 47% if not for injuries ? He had never done it, but so what ? That's not a valid argument.

If you really want to argue that, then maybe look at his schedule that year, see what his home/away games ratio was, strength of opposition, stuff like that and determine if it would have been possible for him to keep this up had he not gotten injured. Because in the end, you guys look just as bad as Hulk.

[DMAVS41]

Paul Pierce and Ray Allen both had their best shooting seasons this year, so why is it so unreasonable to say Kobe could have shot 47% if not for injuries ? He had never done it, but so what ? That's not a valid argument.

If you really want to argue that, then maybe look at his schedule that year, see what his home/away games ratio was, strength of opposition, stuff like that and determine if it would have been possible for him to keep this up had he not gotten injured. Because in the end, you guys look just as bad as Hulk.

nobody is saying he can't do it. we were saying its not fair to just assume he would have done it the past years without injuries.

I even posted that i think Kobe could do in the future "if" he changes his game.

[G-train]

This is why I think Kobe will eventually damage his legacy. He is not going to bow out gracefully. Wonderful.

Agreed. He will be 34 and coming off 19 ppg and 42% shooting and say "gonna get some work in this off season and be back as good as ever" only to average 17 ppg on 40%.
Age catches up with everyone.

[CanadaBBallFan]

Where did you quote me saying that? The context feels off...BTW, do you think Kobe's word is the word of God...so say he and it shall be done?? :lol

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Most overrated player ever? A definite yes.

Whose gimmick is this?

[Micku]

Kobe could shoot above 46%. It's not impossible. He just have to choose his spots carefully and shoot better shots. Like Hulk said, he did shoot very well in 08-09 and 09-10 until he got hurt.

I dunno if he would be able to keep that pace, but he is capable of doing it.

Will he do it tho? That is a different question. We'll see.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

His shot selection will not let him shoot 47%. Injuries or not, he takes stupid ****ing shots.

No it's just that when you primarily shoot jumpers your FG% will be around 45%..which is average overall but pretty decent for a guard. Ray Allen shoots the same career percentage almost...does he take stupid shots?

Even with Jordan, it wasn't that his shot selection was perfect, he was just such a great finisher around the rim and had such a great mid range shot and could shoot off balance and off the dribble well.

People overstate Kobe's shot selection

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Besides, Kobe shot .469% in the 2001-2002 season :oldlol:

And played 80 games

[DMAVS41]

No it's just that when you primarily shoot jumpers your FG% will be around 45%..which is average overall but pretty decent for a guard. Ray Allen shoots the same career percentage almost...does he take stupid shots?

Even with Jordan, it wasn't that his shot selection was perfect, he was just such a great finisher around the rim and had such a great mid range shot and could shoot off balance and off the dribble well.

People overstate Kobe's shot selection

ray allen isn't a very good comparison because he takes nearly 6 threes a game....and that has been his role more than just a scorer throughout his career.

totally agree about the rest of your post though.

[Colby Brian]

ray allen isn't a very good comparison because he takes nearly 6 threes a game....and that has been his role more than just a scorer throughout his career.

totally agree about the rest of your post though.

kobe averaged 6.5 3PA in 2005-06
5.9 3PA in 2004-05
5.1 in 2006-07
5.2 in 2007-08

[DMAVS41]

kobe averaged 6.5 3PA in 2005-06
5.9 3PA in 2004-05
5.1 in 2006-07
5.2 in 2007-08

we were talking about career numbers. in those years its different.

[Colby Brian]

we were talking about career numbers. in those years its different.

thats 4 years of 5+ 3PA a game, and he has 8 seasons of atleast 4
thats a huge chunk of his career and a lot of 3s

[Rasheed1]

http://tinyimg.comoj.com/pictures/f0acbfa1dfd11b917879bc357bf64447.jpg

:oldlol:

[DMAVS41]

thats 4 years of 5+ 3PA a game, and he has 8 seasons of atleast 4
thats a huge chunk of his career and a lot of 3s

for sure.

But ray takes 6 a game for his career.....so think about that.

kobe take 19.4 shots a game.....3.8 are threes
ray takes 15.7 shots a game......5.9 are threes

like i said, its not a good comparison.

20% of kobe's shots are threes
38% of ray's shots are threes

[CanadaBBallFan]

Where did you quote me saying that? The context feels off...BTW, do you think Kobe's word is the word of God...so say he and it shall be done?? :lol

I repeat...:confusedshrug:

[Simple Jack]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

This will make a good bump when Pierce tap that ass in south beach tonight! :oldlol:
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

I'll bump it for you, troll. :violin:

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

just like how he said he believed LA can still win the series vs. mavs. i'm looking forward to mavs vs. LA tonight on tnt
okay charles barkley. how about you try being original next time?

[gilalizard]

http://img815.imageshack.us/img815/5713/berneydidnotread.gif


Put some ****ing clothes on that fit you you dipshit.

[Soundwave]

http://i462.photobucket.com/albums/qq350/itsbouttogetugly/no-country-for-old-men-1.jpg

[gilalizard]

http://tinyimg.comoj.com/pictures/f0acbfa1dfd11b917879bc357bf64447.jpg

lol at the most stacked team in the league gloating

Miami and their fanbois are a spectacle of douchebaggery.

[Soundwave]

lol at the most stacked team in the league gloating

Miami and their fanbois are a spectacle of douchebaggery.

Good now Kobe nutridders can deal with it for the next 5-7 years :oldlol:

Delicious how it came back at them like a boomerang.

[donald_trump]

whos this kobe guy? is he even in the playoffs?

[Colby Brian]

whos this kobe guy? is he even in the playoffs?

hes the guys whos been to 7 of the last 11 nba finals
and won 5 of the last 11 nba championships

[amfirst]

Kobe has a lot of injuries this year, u can see how it effects him in the game. Hopefully, he heals up this summer and come back stronger like before.

[Hoopz2332]

Yep.

I forgot that Kobe has been injured his entire career. Thats why he's never shot 47%.

LOL

:lol

[Allstar24]

That's the right attitude. Kobe knows he and the Lakers got embarrassed by a better team. It is good that they didn't just lose but they were humiliated. This will help them get the hunger back, that was missing this year. They will come back with the same hunger they came back with after getting humiliated in the 2008 finals. I see another run coming. No need to panic and make changes. This team is great enough to win again.

[24r2]

this is the true competitor

[LA_Showtime]

That's the right attitude. Kobe knows he and the Lakers got embarrassed by a better team. It is good that they didn't just lose but they were humiliated. This will help them get the hunger back, that was missing this year. They will come back with the same hunger they came back with after getting humiliated in the 2008 finals. I see another run coming. No need to panic and make changes. This team is great enough to win again.

Count me among the select few Laker fans who believe they can't win with the same core group. Bynum's growing up. He's going to be speaking up; he's already said he wants to be more involved in the offense because it benefits the team, and Kobe's already responded by saying, "I eat first."

[dr8ked]

I think he's gone senile. :lol didn't he proclaim they were going to win the series, when they were down 3-0 ?

[macpierce]

at least he sounds angry to prove people wrong..........better than pau going with the flow

[Lebron23]

Do you think Kobe will accept his role as the Lakers 2nd scoring option if they acquire a younger franchise player in the off season? Kobe has nothing left to prove as a first option.

[kaiiu]

Do you think Kobe will accept his role as the Lakers 2nd scoring option if they acquire a younger franchise player in the off season? Kobe has nothing left to prove as a first option.
He better if he wants to win any more rings.

[Lebron23]

He better if he wants to win any more rings.

It will also help him to extend his NBA Career.

[LA_Showtime]

Do you think Kobe will accept his role as the Lakers 2nd scoring option if they acquire a younger franchise player in the off season? Kobe has nothing left to prove as a first option.

No. I've read two articles: In one, Kobe says he still eats first, and that Bynum's going to have to fall in line. Obviously, Kobe will be the first option over Andrew Bynum, but his attitude bothers me. I'd rather see him say, "If he improves over the summer, then we'll find a way to get him touches." He sounds way too insecure. The other article highlighted my worries about Kobe's eventual decline, arguing Kobe won't ever be able to hand over the reigns.

[kaiiu]

It will also help him to extend his NBA Career.
I dont see Kobe doing it doe:violin:

[LA_Showtime]

The Lakers can still win with Kobe as the first option, but the days where Kobe just monopolizes the basketball should be over. He's got to improve his decision making, be smarter with the basketball, and learn to do more with less. He's got a real opportunity to do that, because the Lakers have a wealth of talent, but I don't think he's capable of doing that for an entire season. I've always said Kobe's a much better player when he regularly looks to involve his teammates, but he's hardly EVER that way. At this point, it's going to be difficult for him to adjust his game and become more of a balanced player, a better teammate. IF he adjusts his game, though, then this Lakers core has at least 2 more championship runs in them. If not, they're done, period.

[Allstar24]

No. I've read two articles: In one, Kobe says he still eats first, and that Bynum's going to have to fall in line. Obviously, Kobe will be the first option over Andrew Bynum, but his attitude bothers me. I'd rather see him say, "If he improves over the summer, then we'll find a way to get him touches." He sounds way too insecure. The other article highlighted my worries about Kobe's eventual decline, arguing Kobe won't ever be able to hand over the reigns.
:oldlol: Yeah that was kind of a stupid comment. I think that is a theory Kobe adopted from Phil, who never trusted Bynum...rather than force-feeding Pau to get him going, we should have given those touches to Bynum, who was playing well in the playoffs. The thing is, we don't need Bynum to be the #1 scoring option to win. But he should get the ball more if he's outplaying Pau. There should be no "pecking order."

[Lebron23]

No. I've read two articles: In one, Kobe says he still eats first, and that Bynum's going to have to fall in line. Obviously, Kobe will be the first option over Andrew Bynum, but his attitude bothers me. I'd rather see him say, "If he improves over the summer, then we'll find a way to get him touches." He sounds way too insecure. The other article highlighted my worries about Kobe's eventual decline, arguing Kobe won't ever be able to hand over the reigns.

Good post. I am sure Kobe is going to realize next season that he doesn't need to average over 25 ppg. I could see him getting his teammates more involve in their offense.

[LA_Showtime]

:oldlol: Yeah that was kind of a stupid comment. I think that is a theory Kobe adopted from Phil, who never trusted Bynum...rather than force-feeding Pau to get him going, we should have given those touches to Bynum, who was playing well in the playoffs. The thing is, we don't need Bynum to be the #1 scoring option to win. But he should get the ball more if he's outplaying Pau. There should be no "pecking order."

Kobe's attitude just bothers me. Maybe he's different... maybe he's changed from the kid we saw 7-8 years ago, but I hate how insecure he comes off. He's more concerned with whose the man when he should be worrying about the best way to win.

[ImmortalD24]

"There's another level I feel I can get to," Bryant said
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/0/5756/271823-vegeta5_super.jpg

[Laker19]

I don't think its insecurity with Kobe, he's said one of his jobs is to shoot and thats what he will do, so a majority of the shots go to him, then Pau is next, then Drew. He made the comment about getting to another level if his knee is as strong as it can't be. That sounds like a person who thinks he's still capable of producing as the number 1 option. Eventually the age will catch up, but I think he will just work out the post, shoot higher percentage shots, and limit himself on the 20 footers.

[lefthook00]

Kobe is insane. I love it.

[ImmortalD24]

http://i54.tinypic.com/10h3mlt.jpg

[HorryIsMyMVP]

I might be sick in the head but I still think Kobe can time travel and go back in time and beat the Mavericks.

[kaiiu]

http://i54.tinypic.com/10h3mlt.jpg
:roll: :roll:

[BEAST Griffin]

Kobe's attitude just bothers me. Maybe he's different... maybe he's changed from the kid we saw 7-8 years ago, but I hate how insecure he comes off. He's more concerned with whose the man when he should be worrying about the best way to win.
I remember earlier this season when Pau Gasol was beasting. Kobe Bryant clearly hated that. As soon as he could he went into chucker mode just shooting everything he could. Coincidentally Pau Gasol stopped beasting.

[Laker19]

I remember earlier this season when Pau Gasol was beasting. Kobe Bryant clearly hated that. As soon as he could he went into chucker mode just shooting everything he could. Coincidentally Pau Gasol stopped beasting.

So Pau did not become tired from playing the 5 position while Andrew was out playing over 40 minutes basically every game. Notice Pau numbers went down in December, the same time Bynum came back. If you want to put the blame on Kobe, then also notice his shot attempts went down by 3 when Pau started to struggle.

[LA_Showtime]

I remember earlier this season when Pau Gasol was beasting. Kobe Bryant clearly hated that. As soon as he could he went into chucker mode just shooting everything he could. Coincidentally Pau Gasol stopped beasting.

Eh, I totally disagree with that one. Gasol ran out of gas, and he actually hurt his hamstring, too, except the media never picked up on it.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Kobe Bryant on His haters: "Shut up those motherfcuking folks saying...I'm done."

2011 playoff averages - 22.8 pts/3.4 reb/3.3 ast/44.6% FG and numerous vanishing acts in 4th quarters and second halves of games en route to being swept by a team everyone had them favored to beat handily.

You're done, Kobe.

[macpierce]

at least he seems determined to get stronger

[chazzy]

2011 playoff averages - 22.8 pts/3.4 reb/3.3 ast/44.6% FG and numerous vanishing acts in 4th quarters and second halves of games en route to being swept by a team everyone had them favored to beat handily.

You're done, Kobe.
Is Pau done too?

[DMAVS41]

Is Pau done too?

He is if Dirk is on the team he's playing.

[LA_Showtime]

He is if Dirk is on the team he's playing.

You're kidding, right?

I re-watched every game of the playoffs. Yes, Pau Gasol played like a *****, but the Lakers also put him in situations he's NEVER excelled in, which are isolation's and post-ups. Instead of moving without the ball, players just stood around and watched as he attempted to go one-on-one. Don't get me wrong, Gasol is as much to blame as his teammates... they didn't make him shoot a bunch of 15 foot jump shots, but he would've at least had a respectable showing had they put him in situations that suited his strengths.

[dazzer87]

Good post. I am sure Kobe is going to realize next season that he doesn't need to average over 25 ppg. I could see him getting his teammates more involve in their offense.

Please we're talking about the same KOME?????? Guy will never learn....Kome ball all day till he retire.

[STATUTORY]

Please we're talking about the same KOME?????? Guy will never learn....Kome ball all day till he retire.

Kome ball has gotten him 5 rings in 14 seasons. u mad?

[DMAVS41]

You're kidding, right?

I re-watched every game of the playoffs. Yes, Pau Gasol played like a *****, but the Lakers also put him in situations he's NEVER excelled in, which are isolation's and post-ups. Instead of moving without the ball, players just stood around and watched as he attempted to go one-on-one. Don't get me wrong, Gasol is as much to blame as his teammates... they didn't make him shoot a bunch of 15 foot jump shots, but he would've at least had a respectable showing had they put him in situations that suited his strengths.

Actually yes. That was a joke. I love Gasol. I've often been accused of over-rating Gasol.

I think he's the 2nd best PF in the league.

I'm just having some fun because Lakers fans argued with me all year that Pau was better than Dirk.

I love Pau, but Dirk is on another level as a player.

[Lakers_Kobe_Fan]

Actually yes. That was a joke. I love Gasol. I've often been accused of over-rating Gasol.

I think he's the 2nd best PF in the league.

I'm just having some fun because Lakers fans argued with me all year that Pau was better than Dirk.

I love Pau, but Dirk is on another level as a player.

lol....i would have loved to see the full mentally healthy lakers against the Mavs....

[dr8ked]

so this is how people start getting senile?? :lol

[swi7ch]

He also told reporters not to count them out even though they were down 0-2 to DAL.

Kobe's mind wants to fight but his body won't let him. That is the definition of being washed-up and he showed it all throughout this year. It's OK, Kobe... even MJ was washed-up too with the Wizards.

[DMAVS41]

lol....i would have loved to see the full mentally healthy lakers against the Mavs....

LOL

I would have loved to see it as well. Maybe the Lakers would have won a game.

[FultzNationRISE]

Crazy how he was never relevant again