LeBron James spends over $170,000 in a Las Vegas nightclub.

[EnoughSaid]

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2011/5/16/9/lebron-james-100000-las-vegas-nightclub-receipt-11419-1305553848-6.jpg

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/lebron-james-100000-las-vegas-night-club-receip

Got damn Bron. Guess that's why he played so bad in game 1? :lol

[hovermaster]

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2011/5/16/9/lebron-james-100000-las-vegas-nightclub-receipt-11419-1305553848-6.jpg

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/lebron-james-100000-las-vegas-night-club-receip

Got damn Bron. Guess that's why he played so bad in game 1? :lol
lol lebron was way to tipsy for his own good :facepalm :lol

[Soundwave]

I hope he got at least a bj from one of the waitresses for spending that much.

[EnoughSaid]

lol lebron was way to tipsy for his own good :facepalm :lol

***** bought some Cristal. :lol

[Marv_Albert]

That shits wayyyy overpriced man.

[Hawker]

Never even had cristal. Probably tastes the same as Andre.

[G-Funk]

**** did he buy the whole club a drink?

[Soundwave]

**** did he buy the whole club a drink?

I would hope $170k would be enough to buy everyone in a bar a drink, lol.

He probably could've bought an ownership stake in the club for that much.

I mean damn. As a waitress, I think you're basically obligated to go down on a dude for dropping that kind of dime.

[Crown&Coke]

why the hell is he buying bud light???

that kills off some of his swag

[Colby Brian]

damn, but thats like $1000 dollars for him

[B]

I'm calling BS. You all can believe it if you want but that's a load of bull

[Crown&Coke]

a 12 pack of bud light costs $108 :facepalm :facepalm

It aint huring Bron's pockets but a scrub like me, dayam

[EnoughSaid]

damn, but thats like $1000 dollars for him

Even if this *****'s rich, he shouldn't be going to nightclubs during the Playoffs.

[Kensta]

Did he tip more than $10 this time?

[Soundwave]

Did he tip more than $10 this time?

$9 for one friggin' Budweiser?

I'm assuming some gratuity is built-in to the tab.

[Colby Brian]

Even if this *****'s rich, he shouldn't be going to nightclubs during the Playoffs.

how do u know when he went? maybe it was a while ago

[AMISTILLILL]

This could have literally been done up by anyone. Could or could not be fake.

[Kensta]

$9 for one friggin' Budweiser?

I'm assuming some gratuity is built-in to the tab.

Not from what I can see.

[TylerOO]

Can you say BOSS?

[Styles p]

:eek: $108 for a ****ing 12 pack of bud light, talk about rape.

[28renyoy]

Not even LeBron has enough money to be doing this type of shit on a regular basis

[Sheed]

Never even had cristal. Probably tastes the same as Andre.
:oldlol: probably. Andre is my jam

[DRoseOwnsACamry]

SMH at those prices. :facepalm

[824]

I hate those clubs you can walk right out of them to bars in the casinos literally 5 feet away with 1 dollar shots

[Orlando Magic]

This could have literally been done up by anyone. Could or could not be fake.

This.

But that aside... lol @ 12k in taxes. That's a damn shame.

****ing twelve ****ing thousand ****ing dollars for ****ing taxes on one ****ing night in a ****ing club. I'd punch a total stranger in the face for 12k... and someone willingly dropped it on taxes for ****ing alcohol. Lmao.

[AMISTILLILL]

This.

But that aside... lol @ 12k in taxes. That's a damn shame.

****ing twelve ****ing thousand ****ing dollars for ****ing taxes on one ****ing night in a ****ing club. I'd punch my wife/girlfriend/mother/father/daughter/sister/brother in the face for 12k.

Fixed.

[GoRapz]

why the hell is he buying bud light???

that kills off some of his swag

Agreed :oldlol:

[Soundwave]

Not from what I can see.

They're charging at least a 500% premium on everything on that tab from what I can see. I wouldn't blame him for not tipping at all to be honest, on a tab that size the owner should be the one to give his staff a cut of it.

[Kellogs4toniee]

It's a Vegas night club, and must be a good one if Lebron and gang were there. Who here has gone to XS, Tryst, or the new Marquee? I've never personally bought a bud light there, but being 9 bucks doesn't surprise me at all.

[BarberSchool]

http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2011/5/16/9/lebron-james-100000-las-vegas-nightclub-receipt-11419-1305553848-6.jpg

http://www.buzzfeed.com/mikehayes/lebron-james-100000-las-vegas-night-club-receip

Got damn Bron. Guess that's why he played so bad in game 1? :lol


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73EkcqDCpuY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73EkcqDCpuY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73EkcqDCpuY

[ihatetimthomas]

Clearly some of you guys have never been to a nice club in Vegas. Mixed drinks can go for $15. 9 bucks for budlight is the norm. I have been to most of the nice clubs in Vegas. XS is very nice. Most of the time, we just buy bottle service. It is kind of pricey, but you get your own table, seating and all the workers there kiss your ass. I just went to surrender this weekend and got bottle service. Bouncer hangs out around the bottle service table and lets you know to talk to him if anyone is bothering you, waitresses will mix your drinks, chill your shots, and just make your stay more enjoyable. Lebron spending 170k doesnt surprise me much. Clearly he was paying for a big group and those prices are the norm at those clubs.

[HB40TheNextStar]

He spent $14,500 on magnum condoms? :wtf:

Dude gets more ass than Wilt.

[Gundress]

This Lebron needs to focus on his basketball game especially playoff....

[BarberSchool]

Clearly some of you guys have never been to a nice club in Vegas. Mixed drinks can go for $15. 9 bucks for budlight is the norm. I have been to most of the nice clubs in Vegas. XS is very nice. Most of the time, we just buy bottle service. It is kind of pricey, but you get your own table, seating and all the workers there kiss your ass. I just went to surrender this weekend and got bottle service. Bouncer hangs out around the bottle service table and lets you know to talk to him if anyone is bothering you, waitresses will mix your drinks, chill your shots, and just make your stay more enjoyable. Lebron spending 170k doesnt surprise me much. Clearly he was paying for a big group and those prices are the norm at those clubs.http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/10/128708310722463625.jpg
Bottle service is the lamest hustle.
Paying $2,500.00 for a $100 dollar bottle of liquor and a table is not elite.
Ever.

[AMISTILLILL]

In before posters try to vicariously relate to and/or compare this thread to their own personal experiences in clubs.

Oops, too late.

[ihatetimthomas]

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/10/128708310722463625.jpg
Bottle service is the lamest hustle. Paying $2,500.00 for a $100 dollar bottle of liquor is not elite.

If you can afford it, then who cares? Its way better than fighting a crowd 10 times a night for drinks. I don't feel hustled because I am paying to have a good time, and its not $2500 a bottle. Lots of bottles run $500. Not like I go to those clubs on a weekly basis. If you are concerned about getting "hustled" for buying bottle service then clearly you shouldn't buy it bc you cant afford it.

[Crown&Coke]

http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/10/128708310722463625.jpg
Bottle service is the lamest hustle.
Paying $2,500.00 for a $100 dollar bottle of liquor and a table is not elite.
Ever.

:lol

sometimes its worth it. you get a place to sit and chill when you aren't dancing. And a place to bring girls back to hang out instead of elbowing your way around drunk ass people. If you got a big group it can be alright. And sometimes at packed clubs if you get bottle service you get in fast.

But yea, I am always weary of paying 2grand for a $80 bottle, sometimes I wish I was a fine girl=free drinks

[Eat Like A Bosh]

How do you know it's his?
Anyways does it matter?
That's like a dollar to these multi-millionaire athletes.

[Bigsmoke]

:eek: $108 for a ****ing 12 pack of bud light, talk about rape.

its saids @ $9.00 each :confusedshrug:

that means he had 12 cases of them

[Soundwave]

its saids @ $9.00 each :confusedshrug:

that means he had 12 cases of them

Pretty sure that's one 12 pack of Bud for $108, broken down as $9/bottle or can. You get charged by the bottle, not by the case.

I don't go to Vegas that much, but that's still pretty ridiculous. Even in L.A. at the higher end bars in Hollywood, $9 for a Bud is crazy.

They got $170k for maybe $30k worth of liquor there if that.

[kentatm]

Never even had cristal. Probably tastes the same as Andre.


uhh no.

[Marv_Albert]

damn, but thats like $1000 dollars for him


less than that hell i'd never be able to spend 1000 bucks in a club

[Soundwave]

uhh no.

You can taste the extra thousand dollars. Really.

[BlackWhiteGreen]

In before posters try to vicariously relate to and/or compare this thread to their own personal experiences in clubs.

Oops, too late.

Ah wentt 2 Plug in Shefiyeld nd dey chargd ma boii

[BarberSchool]

If you can afford it, then who cares? Its way better than fighting a crowd 10 times a night for drinks. I don't feel hustled because I am paying to have a good time, and its not $2500 a bottle. Lots of bottles run $500. Not like I go to those clubs on a weekly basis. If you are concerned about getting "hustled" for buying bottle service then clearly you shouldn't buy it bc you cant afford it.Maybe $500 for a $30 bottle, if that. A $100 bottle will cost at least $1700 bottle service in most niche spots. And given the size of LeBron's clique, they can make their own comfortable space around him and have a side of the circle d@mn near on the bar. Even at LeBron's paygrade, markups like that are insulting for any product, especially alcohol.

[(e)]

I laughed when I saw Bud Light after all those expensive ass liquors.

That is so insane. Athlete's get paid way too much freaking money.

I mean ****, I spent 16k on my car...that dude spent 13k in tax for one night out. Unreal.

[BarberSchool]

They got $170k for maybe $30k worth of liquor there if that.Their cost was problably around 14K.

[Benji23]

Fake

[DuMa]

must have been a wild night. and yeah i dont understand the dudes who want to flaunt their cash in a public bar/lounge/club. why not just pay ****ing service to bartend and DJ and invite people to a condo you rent?

but in lebron's case i bet he made just enough money for the appearance in that nightclub to offset that bill.

[Pushxx]

To give people a frame of reference for how little that is to LeBron:

That's like spending $150 in one night if you have a $30,000 salary.

[lebeast666]

Shiieeeet thats like $5 to that nagga

[lakerspng]

In Vegas if you want to enjoy yourself at a club, you pretty much have to roll with the bottle service... unless you know people at the club, you will stand outside in a line for an hour or more.

I don't go out in Vegas without bottle service. Get 5 or 6 friends together, drop $100 each and you have a table all night and 3-4 drinks each. I know it sounds ridiculous, but if you're buying drinks there, they cost $15/each anyway, so for 4 drinks you're dropping $60 and you have no table and you have to wait in line.

I'll pay the extra 40 to walk right in, no wait and have a table all night.

but, in the case of this particular tab... that's freakin stupid. The upcharge on Cristal and Dom is insane. and no, it tastes nothing like Andre.

[thejumpa]

lol I wonder how many people actually believe this and don't realize that it's fake. LeBron wasn't even in Las Vegas at the time. Furthermore, if you've been to Vegas, you know how much high rollers get comped. Imagine someone like LeBron going there. First, there would be no speculation over who's tab this was. We would have seen pictures and read a legit story. Second, he's a huge celebrity. He has no reason to spend that much money on alcohol. He's probably greeted with close to that as soon as he and his entourage walk in. Come on, people.

[Pushxx]

lol I wonder how many people actually believe this and don't realize that it's fake. LeBron wasn't even in Las Vegas at the time. Furthermore, if you've been to Vegas, you know how much high rollers get comped. Imagine someone like LeBron going there. First, there would be no speculation over who's tab this was. We would have seen pictures and read a legit story. Second, he's a huge celebrity. He has no reason to spend that much money on alcohol. He's probably greeted with close to that as soon as he and his entourage walk in. Come on, people.

LOL you think a club owner is gonna comp LeBron 170k instead of letting him pay it? You must be stupid.........

[lakerspng]

LOL you think a club owner is gonna comp LeBron 170k instead of letting him pay it? You must be stupid.........

Celebs get paid significant sums to show up at clubs, especially in Vegas. Paris Hilton gets paid a hell of a lot more than that. It's not out of the question to comp a A lister that and more.

[BlackJoker23]

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l119/pross_2006/walls_brick_1.jpg
http://i56.tinypic.com/rm4hm8.jpg

[thejumpa]

LOL you think a club owner is gonna comp LeBron 170k instead of letting him pay it? You must be stupid.........

lol.....they get paid 50K and up just to appear and have a few drinks. 170K is how much they charge for the alcohol...not how much it is valued at. Get smart, kid.

[The Judge]

lol I wonder how many people actually believe this and don't realize that it's fake. LeBron wasn't even in Las Vegas at the time. Furthermore, if you've been to Vegas, you know how much high rollers get comped. Imagine someone like LeBron going there. First, there would be no speculation over who's tab this was. We would have seen pictures and read a legit story. Second, he's a huge celebrity. He has no reason to spend that much money on alcohol. He's probably greeted with close to that as soon as he and his entourage walk in. Come on, people.

If I was a club owner and I saw some dumbass who can barely read or write, but makes millions, I'd rip him off with 12 bud lights for over a hundred bucks.

Wow, that's actually what the club owner did!

[ihatetimthomas]

Maybe $500 for a $30 bottle, if that. A $100 bottle will cost at least $1700 bottle service in most niche spots. And given the size of LeBron's clique, they can make their own comfortable space around him and have a side of the circle d@mn near on the bar. Even at LeBron's paygrade, markups like that are insulting for any product, especially alcohol.

I never get anything but goose, patron or maybe some whiskey and thats about $500 per, even at the best clubs. Yea the markup is gigantic, and yes very overpriced but people get the service not juts for alcohol. They get it to have a more enjoyable time. You are basically paying for the experience, not the actual alcohol.

[Pushxx]

lol.....they get paid 50K and up just to appear and have a few drinks. 170K is how much they charge for the alcohol...not how much it is valued at. Get smart, kid.

LOL doesn't matter what the alcohol is valued at...it's what you sell it for...

If he comps LeBron the alcohol instead of making him pay, he's losing 170k, even if the alcohol only costs him 5000.

Also, yeah of course celebs get paid to show up to places but it almost always happens as an event so it can bring people in and get a name out there...

Nobody even knows about this appearance so why would the club owner comp him so much for no reason? That's stupid.

[flipogb]

don't care how much you like your drinks or how rich you are, spending that kind of money on something that will end up on the toilet in a few hours is stupid

and I don't think that is LeBron's because I have seen that on other websites, and no mention of it being his

[Kobe24Clutch]

:facepalm Holy shit Lebron is a fcuking beast.

[NewYorkNoPicks]

the markup at clubs are fkn insane. i wonder how rich some of those owners are.

bottle of vodka is like $30 at the liquor store....clubs its like $180 and up

[HEAT111]

No wonder...:lol, Craig Sager said last night that he was "excited" and "Couldn't sleep" for Game 1. He even got to the court 5 hours early.

[EnoughSaid]

No wonder...:lol, Craig Sager said last night that he was "excited" and "Couldn't sleep" for Game 1. He even got to the court 5 hours early.

Maybe my boy Wade was in on that party? :lol

[HEAT111]

Maybe my boy Wade was in on that party? :lol


I hope they are ready for Game 2 :D

[jhuan16]

At least he's helping the economy. US need more NBA player to buy Cristal to help them get out of the recession.

[kaiiu]

That ***** Bron uppin bandz on ******:applause:

still a ***** doe

[Theoo's Daddy]

a 12 pack of bud light costs $108 :facepalm :facepalm

It aint huring Bron's pockets but a scrub like me, dayam
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: Get yo paper weight up brah.

[Samurai Swoosh]

$108 for 12 Bud Lights ... WTF lol

[Samurai Swoosh]

:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: Get yo paper weight up brah.
You don't have that kind of paper either, my dude ... STFU

:oldlol:

[kentatm]

You can taste the extra thousand dollars. Really.


you sure as shit can taste the difference from that BS crap called Andre vs Cristal.

[Batz]

And this guy wants to be a billionaire so his future generation can never be in poverty...?


:applause:

[DirtySanchez]

2 Red Bull six Packs for $96.oo....talk about raising the price.

[DirtySanchez]

You do get a hot girl at least when you get Bottle service to serve everyone and pull up other hot chicks to chill with you at your table. WORTH IT!!!! Know how to do Vegas people!!!

[Bigsmoke]

$108 for 12 Bud Lights ... WTF lol


the receipt saids they are $9.00 a case and he bought 12 of them

$9x12=$108

[Bigsmoke]

Pretty sure that's one 12 pack of Bud for $108, broken down as $9/bottle or can. You get charged by the bottle, not by the case.

I don't go to Vegas that much, but that's still pretty ridiculous. Even in L.A. at the higher end bars in Hollywood, $9 for a Bud is crazy.

They got $170k for maybe $30k worth of liquor there if that.

the 12 at the very left hand is the quantity of cases he is buying not how many bottle in each box.

look at the Redbull one.

the 2 in the far left represents how many cases of redbull hes buying and 6 is how many cans are in there.

[unknowns8]

[QUOTE=BlackWhiteGreen]Ah wentt 2 Plug in Shefiyeld nd dey chargd ma boii

[IamSofaKing]

why the hell is he buying bud light???

that kills off some of his swag

Nah, if anything that keeps him based

[Da KO King]

This thread separates the social drinkers from the booze hounds. LOL

Not sure if its LeBron's tab or not but either way I wanna party with whoever tab it was.

[ALBballer]

How do you know it's his?
Anyways does it matter?
That's like a dollar to these multi-millionaire athletes.


This. Lebron James is making around 15 mill this year from salary alone and probably gets another 20-30 mill in endorsements. It would be comparable to a guy making around 50k a year and spending $250 or so in Vegas.

[sunsfan1357]

the 12 at the very left hand is the quantity of cases he is buying not how many bottle in each box.

look at the Redbull one.

the 2 in the far left represents how many cases of redbull hes buying and 6 is how many cans are in there.
Then if he was buying a case of Bud Light then it would say 12 Bud Light 12 pack just like the other items that are in bulk like the Red Bull and FIJI. I've been to clubs like XS in Vegas and it definitely costs $9 for one beer and $15 for mixed drinks. Once I was in Pure and bought a shot and a beer for both me and my buddy and it cost something like $30.

[boozehound]

the 12 at the very left hand is the quantity of cases he is buying not how many bottle in each box.

look at the Redbull one.

the 2 in the far left represents how many cases of redbull hes buying and 6 is how many cans are in there.
you are way off on this. The only time that applies is for the clearly marked 6 packs of redbull. the rest of these are individual bottles (of budlight, patron, cristal, etc.). He definitely did not buy a case of budlight for $9. that is just silly. Those prices dont seem out of line for a club in houston, LV or anywhere, but he has terrible taste.

[Samurai Swoosh]

the receipt saids they are $9.00 a case and he bought 12 of them

$9x12=$108
No dude ... lol ... you clearly have never been a server or bar tender. And you don't know how to read the receipt. Take it you don't go out much ...

They don't sell 12 packs to people from their stock.

That is ringing up 12 individual bottles @ $9.00 a pop.

That's the ridiculous price for 1 beer at the place he is at in Vegas.

12 beers cost him $108 dollars

He didn't buy 12 cases of Beer for $9.00 a pop haha ... you can't get a 12 pack of Bud Light Bottles for $9.00 at your local grocey store.

He paid $9.00 for each individual bottle. Ya tard .. lol

[boozehound]

This. Lebron James is making around 15 mill this year from salary alone and probably gets another 20-30 mill in endorsements. It would be comparable to a guy making around 50k a year and spending $250 or so in Vegas.
what it does is show you how out of touch he is with the average american. Should we hate him for it? Thats up to you (and you), but it clearly shows that he lives in a very isolated and protected world where dropping nearly 4 times the average annual salary in the US on a bunch of "image" liquor is perfectly acceptable.

[boozehound]

Then if he was buying a case of Bud Light then it would say 12 Bud Light 12 pack just like the other items that are in bulk like the Red Bull and FIJI. I've been to clubs like XS in Vegas and it definitely costs $9 for one beer and $15 for mixed drinks. Once I was in Pure and bought a shot and a beer for both me and my buddy and it cost something like $30.
thats actually pretty cheap if you got 4 drinks for $30 bucks. In houston, you can expect to pay anywhere from 6-12 for a beer and 6-infinite for a shot. that is hip bar and club prices, as you can obviously find cheaper places.

[kaiiu]

Cant hate on him for this... This some Boss shit :applause:

[MalikWadeCounty]

13 stacks in taxes, tho........


http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6438/justog.png

[TylerOO]

Cant hate on him for this... This some Boss shit :applause:

Hell yea BOSS. :bowdown:

[Samurai Swoosh]

13 stacks in taxes, tho........


http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/6438/justog.png
F U money, for sure ...

[MalikWadeCounty]

http://www.mitchie.com/catalog/images/fortymilliondollarslaves.jpg

[Samurai Swoosh]

http://www.mitchie.com/catalog/images/fortymilliondollarslaves.jpg
Oh don't start with that stupid woe is me racist bull ish.

Please ...

[MalikWadeCounty]

Oh don't start with that stupid woe is me racist bull ish.

Please ...

lol wasn't a response to you, cuzzo. miss me with that extra s**t.:lol :lol


I like goin out and drinkin like the next n!gga,
i just know i wouldn't be caught dead spendin 13 stacks in taxes on nothin 'cept a house

[LBJ 23]

That's why he's losing athleticism, drinking and partyin to much. Not taking care for your own body, shame on you Lebron :facepalm

[Samurai Swoosh]

That's why he's losing athleticism, drinking and partyin to much. Not taking care for your own body, shame on you Lebron :facepalm
There was a theory running around in the thread about LeBron's performance in game 1 v.s. the Bulls that brought up this very point.

[Hittin_Shots]

That's why he's losing athleticism, drinking and partyin to much. Not taking care for your own body, shame on you Lebron :facepalm

He may not of drank a thing...

[Samurai Swoosh]

lol wasn't a response to you, cuzzo. miss me with that extra s**t.:lol :lol
I understand ... I'm just saying a lot of African Americans carry around that mentality STILL and that's why they are losers.

[joshwake]

Clearly some of you guys have never been to a nice club in Vegas. Mixed drinks can go for $15. 9 bucks for budlight is the norm. I have been to most of the nice clubs in Vegas. XS is very nice. Most of the time, we just buy bottle service. It is kind of pricey, but you get your own table, seating and all the workers there kiss your ass. I just went to surrender this weekend and got bottle service. Bouncer hangs out around the bottle service table and lets you know to talk to him if anyone is bothering you, waitresses will mix your drinks, chill your shots, and just make your stay more enjoyable. Lebron spending 170k doesnt surprise me much. Clearly he was paying for a big group and those prices are the norm at those clubs.
Grab your best silk clubbing shirt, pop your collar like a homo and douse yourself in some shitty overpriced cologne, it's time to douche up the night!

[sunsfan1357]

thats actually pretty cheap if you got 4 drinks for $30 bucks. In houston, you can expect to pay anywhere from 6-12 for a beer and 6-infinite for a shot. that is hip bar and club prices, as you can obviously find cheaper places.
Yeah I think the beers were $9 a piece and the shots somewhere in the $6 range. It was alcohol that I thought would be the cheapest (Coors and Jager). It was my first time in Vegas (and only time really buying drinks in a club like that, now I just pregame like hell with booze I bring from home) and I'm the kind of person that typically goes to dive bars where beers and shots can be had for $3 or less.

[B]

There was a theory running around in the thread about LeBron's performance in game 1 v.s. the Bulls that brought up this very point.Except it was supposed to have happened on Cinco De Mayo between games 2 and 3 of the Celtics series.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

I seriously doubt this is real. I don't think LeBron even went to Vegas last night.

[The Judge]

LeBron says in the post-game that he can't find time to hit the gym and practice jumpshots, but he has time to do this?

[LeFraud Shames]

LeBron says in the post-game that he can't find time to hit the gym and practice jumpshots, but he has time to do this?

:cheers:

[bagelred]

Lebron

[SwayDizzle]

[QUOTE=BlackWhiteGreen]Ah wentt 2 Plug in Shefiyeld nd dey chargd ma boii

[sh0wtime]

Dont hate the player, hate the game. :)

[Jasper]

ck opening post date folks :facepalm