View Full Version : If you're not sold on Jonas Valanciunas after watching this, you're on CRACK
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 02:50 PM
From May 10th, 2011:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QBS0lHZGJP0
A couple things....
Jonas plays with a GREAT motor. He's always moving with or without the ball. Notice in the first :20 seconds of the video when he shows on the midget point guard 20 feet from the basket. His stance is low and rock-solid. His long arms allow him to play off smaller players while still being able to play them for the driver or shot.
VERY impressive. He looks ALOT like Jakim Noah on defense. Jonas plays aggressively and loves contact. Is willing to mix it up and protect the basket, as shown in the video.
Valanciunas free throw form at the :53 mark is that of a +80% and that's exactly the case, since he shoots like 90% from the line. This guy will live at the line in the NBA.
And let's all collective :eek: :eek: :eek: @ the 1:53 second mark of this video. Jesus!!! Is that gazelle out there??? Dude is 6'11 running the court like he's 6'6.
Overall the video shows post moves, blocks, and basically elite effort in everything he does. And at just 18 years old, the guy is worthy of the #1 pick.
Goliath Uterus
05-18-2011, 02:52 PM
Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams are still alive, so this guy definitely isn't worthy of the #1 pick, but yea he's pretty good
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 02:55 PM
Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams are still alive, so this guy definitely isn't worthy of the #1 pick, but yea he's pretty good
He grades out higher on my board than either of them.
TylerOO
05-18-2011, 02:57 PM
Im on crack.
boozehound
05-18-2011, 03:01 PM
the paint also seems so empty in euro games. I still like Kanter better
NY-Knicks
05-18-2011, 03:01 PM
I'm a junkie.
boozehound
05-18-2011, 03:01 PM
He grades out higher on my board than either of them.
your board? Ok there
Whenever someone gets done using their crack pipe can I borrow it? Thanks
NY-Knicks
05-18-2011, 03:03 PM
Whenever someone gets done using their crack pipe can I borrow it? Thanks
Not mine, according to Pleezeleave I'm one big ol' addict, 24/7 Crack Train Son!
G.O.A.T
05-18-2011, 03:04 PM
Watching that makes me want to stay away from him.
Way too stiff, no explosiveness, nice skill level at his age, but don't believe he's strong or quick enough to make multiple dribble post moves in the NBA.
Where did you get the idea that he was moving fluidly? Watching him run makes my knees hurt.
As for his defense, he looks like an old guy with a 3 or 4 inch height advantage on everyone playing a high level pick-up game. Not like Noah, to me anyway.
KingBeasley08
05-18-2011, 03:04 PM
Im on crack.
this.
Soothing Layup
05-18-2011, 03:05 PM
***** i'm twacked out
kaiiu
05-18-2011, 03:05 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_khZ6NyfdDkA/TDSoeXFYGHI/AAAAAAAAAPw/Ct7vki1VRro/s1600/pookie.jpg
http://chud.com/nextraimages/NewJackCity4.jpg
So far this thread has a bunch of crackheads in it. Only PB is the one who looks like a crack head...
http://www.noirgossip.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/dave-chappelle.jpg
Dbrog
05-18-2011, 03:08 PM
No offense...but I don't think this guy can be very effective in the NBA. Best case scenario Leon Powe? I mean, you look at Splitter highlights and coming in, people were saying he's a sure thing Scola-clone but with BETTER defense. Look how that turned out and I think Splitter is much much much better than Jonas.
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:11 PM
No offense...but I don't think this guy can be very effective in the NBA. Best case scenario Leon Powe?
:roll: :roll: :roll:
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:11 PM
Keep the posts coming. This may be my Greatest Me > You threads ever (and I have several).
Dbrog
05-18-2011, 03:12 PM
:roll: :roll: :roll:
Tell me how he's even remotely as good as Splitter :confusedshrug:
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:15 PM
Jonas is already playing against legit NBA size. Guys in this video are 6-10+.
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:15 PM
Tell me how he's even remotely as good as Splitter :confusedshrug:
Who the f*ck is Splitter, dude??? :wtf:
Goliath Uterus
05-18-2011, 03:17 PM
He grades out higher on my board than either of them.
well, I guess it's a good thing your uninformed opinion doesn't matter
Keep the posts coming. This may be my Greatest Me > You threads ever (and I have several).
Bump one. Just one.
KG215
05-18-2011, 03:18 PM
He grades out higher on my board than either of them.
And how many NBA teams would you say, per year, are using or at least referencing your board leading up to the draft?
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:18 PM
I just watched Splitter on Youtube and in 10 seconds I could tell the guy is no where near Valanciunas ceiling.
C'mon dude... kill dat.
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:20 PM
And how many NBA teams would you say, per year, are using or at least referencing your board leading up to the draft?
It doesn't matter. GMs get paid to do worse which I do better for free.
Fact.
OhNoTimNoSho
05-18-2011, 03:21 PM
Seems to me like hes skinny and lacks athletic ability, strength, shooting touch, handles, finishing around around the rim, lateral quickness, hand eye coordination, general quickness, post up game, hops, power, any kind of moves, shot blocking, rebounding, blackness.
Dbrog
05-18-2011, 03:21 PM
Who the f*ck is Splitter, dude??? :wtf:
ahahaha. I rest my case. Anyway, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swj7Nx_uxlA 6-11 dude looking like a guard out there and yet in the NBA, 6 and 4 in 16 minutes.
TylerOO
05-18-2011, 03:23 PM
Big Z 2.0 AT BEST!
NBASTATMAN
05-18-2011, 03:26 PM
dude is going to be garbage and so is the duke pg.. Duke players and especially their Pgs are always overrated... I would trade at least one of those picks for a sure thing in the NBA... Mr Gay is a sure thing and maybe you could pick up a solid pt guard with the 4th pick.. Or another big guy that can defend.. Bigs that can defend and rebound are going to help win titles.. Anything else is eye candy..
tpols
05-18-2011, 03:29 PM
Big Z 2.0 AT BEST!
Exactly what I was thinking.
Except he didn't show that he had any shooting touch from 15+.
All of his defensive 'highlights' were him tipping the ball, the offensive player getting it right back, and laying it in.:oldlol:
And offensively, it was three quick dribbles and a little drop in. All of the guys guarding him were skinny white guys that weren't even trying to push him out of the paint. He would get RAPED on the low post by the guys we have in the nba right now.
That might be the least athletic professional basketball game I've ever seen.
bdreason
05-18-2011, 03:30 PM
He's the biggest guy on the court and didn't impress me all that much tbh.
Reverend Hoops
05-18-2011, 03:32 PM
He may be a good role-player in 6 years. Not worth it.
boozehound
05-18-2011, 03:33 PM
Who the f*ck is Splitter, dude??? :wtf:
gotta love the expert with the big draft board not even knowing who an active nba baller is. What a ****ing fool
CeltsGarlic
05-18-2011, 03:33 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYy6xvSrIHM
This dunk is nice tho.
noob cake
05-18-2011, 03:37 PM
Watching that makes me want to stay away from him.
Way too stiff, no explosiveness, nice skill level at his age, but don't believe he's strong or quick enough to make multiple dribble post moves in the NBA.
Where did you get the idea that he was moving fluidly? Watching him run makes my knees hurt.
As for his defense, he looks like an old guy with a 3 or 4 inch height advantage on everyone playing a high level pick-up game. Not like Noah, to me anyway.
Just my thoughts. Not super explosive, but I'm sure he is an elite athlete. Showed some hook shots, but no J?
He runs well for a 7 footers, but not nearly as well as Anthony Randolph. If I wanted an euro big, I think Kanter is a better choice.
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:38 PM
Bump one. Just one.
Do you really want me to bump the Reggis Bush thread coming out of college?? That's probably one of the top exhibitions any poster in the history of the net has ever put on.
I was on my A game then.
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:40 PM
Seems to me like hes skinny and lacks athletic ability, strength, shooting touch, handles, finishing around around the rim, lateral quickness, hand eye coordination, general quickness, post up game, hops, power, any kind of moves, shot blocking, rebounding, blackness.
Everything in bold is an outrageous lie.
Try harder.
boozehound
05-18-2011, 03:42 PM
I just watched Splitter on Youtube and in 10 seconds I could tell the guy is no where near Valanciunas ceiling.
C'mon dude... kill dat.
yep, I hear that topsecret Youtube website is where all the top scouts get their film.
Scoooter
05-18-2011, 03:42 PM
For such a skinny guy, he seems like kind of a plodder. Stiff.
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:43 PM
ahahaha. I rest my case. Anyway, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swj7Nx_uxlA 6-11 dude looking like a guard out there and yet in the NBA, 6 and 4 in 16 minutes.
Jonas is a 6'11 "dude" who plays like he's 6-11.
F*ck outta here with this garbage comparison. :oldlol:
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:45 PM
dude is going to be garbage and so is the duke pg.. Duke players and especially their Pgs are always overrated... I would trade at least one of those picks for a sure thing in the NBA... Mr Gay is a sure thing and maybe you could pick up a solid pt guard with the 4th pick.. Or another big guy that can defend.. Bigs that can defend and rebound are going to help win titles.. Anything else is eye candy..
Me > You
This has been proven over and over again.
Take that wack talk elsewhere.
ZenMaster
05-18-2011, 03:45 PM
He grades out higher on my board than either of them.
lol
kaiiu
05-18-2011, 03:46 PM
Me > You
This has been proven over and over again.
Take that wack talk elsewhere.
:roll: :roll:
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:46 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYy6xvSrIHM
This dunk is nice tho.
They say he lacks hops tho. :roll: :roll: :roll:
That was swag there. Dude 18 punching on grown men.
PleezeBelieve
05-18-2011, 03:48 PM
I'm hearing after my n*gga Jonas punched on dude, he asked him if he could borrow his ID to get in the club later.
Dirty.
LeFraud Shames
05-18-2011, 03:49 PM
Do you really want me to bump the Reggis Bush thread coming out of college?? That's probably one of the top exhibitions any poster in the history of the net has ever put on.
I was on my A game then.
And you're on crack now.
You've come a long way my friend. :applause:
NBASTATMAN
05-18-2011, 03:53 PM
Me > You
This has been proven over and over again.
Take that wack talk elsewhere.
Which version of you ,should I laugh at, ashbelly or PLEEzE? :roll:
f0und
05-18-2011, 03:54 PM
**busts in**
is this the 5 o'clock free crack give away?!?!
Jon_Koncak
05-18-2011, 03:56 PM
He's no better than Spencer Hawes
LeFraud Shames
05-18-2011, 03:57 PM
**busts in**
is this the 5 o'clock free crack give away?!?!
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
http://26.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_l2z7ocKpKw1qzjuavo1_r1_500.png
pete's montreux
05-18-2011, 04:01 PM
this is just a gateway thread, soon everyone will be free-basing and huffing paint
LeFraud Shames
05-18-2011, 04:05 PM
You still the same a Kobe N*thugger until the die you die.
Until the die I die? :oldlol:
I ain't a Kobe nut-hugger - I'm just a die hard Laker fan that doesn't take any bitchassness.
LeFraud Shames
05-18-2011, 04:08 PM
You are a lying piece of $hit. Just look at your username. You are not going to give a $hit about the Lakers when Kobe retires in less than 3 years.
Whatever floats your boat pal.
Obviously the trolls have gotten to your head. :oldlol:
Shouldn't you be getting back to your LeBron blow-up doll?
LeFraud Shames
05-18-2011, 04:14 PM
I no longer give a $hit about LeBron this season. I already lost interest in watching the NBA.
Oh brother.
:facepalm
Here let me play you the saddest song on the world's smallest violin. :violin:
Better?
Lebron23
05-18-2011, 04:16 PM
Oh brother.
:facepalm
Here let me play you the saddest song on the world's smallest violin. :violin:
Better?
You can go to hell right now. I am done talking to an imbecile.
fatboy11
05-18-2011, 04:18 PM
Hard to be impressed with him from that clip. He's playing against a bunch of other stick figures. There's like 150 in the crowd. I'm guessing that's not even top level competition he's playing against. Just hard to take anything away from that. I've seen college players look better against bigger and better competition that are being projected much, much lower than this kid. I've seen Keith Benson play much more impressively than that against much better and physical competition, but he's rated as a 2nd rounder.
Also, from that clip, I doubt seriously this kid weighs the 240 pounds he's listed at.
LeFraud Shames
05-18-2011, 04:18 PM
You can go to hell right now. I am done talking to an imbecile.
:confusedshrug:
Have a nice day torturing yourself on a forum that discusses something you no longer watch.
And I'm the imbecile. :oldlol:
Rysio
05-18-2011, 04:22 PM
I no longer give a $hit about LeBron this season. I already lost interest in watching the NBA.
Oh great so you're a quitter just like your hero. :applause:
Lebron23
05-18-2011, 04:24 PM
Oh great so you're a quitter just like your hero. :applause:
Who are you?
Sakkreth
05-18-2011, 04:33 PM
That was bad video example first of all, second he just turned 19 week ago and is still quite raw.
Bit better video, but still not that good. I watch him a lot and those vids doesn't really show his real potential.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNugzv7_Uo&feature=related
Maga_1
05-18-2011, 05:23 PM
Hard to be impressed with him from that clip. He's playing against a bunch of other stick figures. There's like 150 in the crowd. I'm guessing that's not even top level competition he's playing against. Just hard to take anything away from that. I've seen college players look better against bigger and better competition that are being projected much, much lower than this kid. I've seen Keith Benson play much more impressively than that against much better and physical competition, but he's rated as a 2nd rounder.
Also, from that clip, I doubt seriously this kid weighs the 240 pounds he's listed at.
Sometimes people just need to shut up when they don't know what they're saying.
Maga_1
05-18-2011, 05:24 PM
That was bad video example first of all, second he just turned 19 week ago and is still quite raw.
Bit better video, but still not that good. I watch him a lot and those vids doesn't really show his real potential.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNugzv7_Uo&feature=related
I was going to say that, he choosed the worst footage of Jonas that you can find in youtube lol
alenleomessi
05-18-2011, 05:33 PM
6/3/1 next season with lots of DNPs
should i say Kleiza ?
From the video he looks like a less impacting 35 year old Tim Duncan.
RedBlackAttack
05-18-2011, 06:15 PM
That was bad video example first of all, second he just turned 19 week ago and is still quite raw.
Bit better video, but still not that good. I watch him a lot and those vids doesn't really show his real potential.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzNugzv7_Uo&feature=related
That is much better than the OP video... MUCH better. After watching PB's video, I began to get very concerned that we might actually end up with that guy.
After watching this one, I feel a little better about him... Still not completely sold, though.
TylerOO
05-18-2011, 06:17 PM
That is much better than the OP video... MUCH better. After watching PB's video, I began to get very concerned that we might actually end up with that guy.
After watching this one, I feel a little better about him... Still not completely sold, though.
Your a Cleveland fan, what do you think of taking Kemba Walker at 4? I feel like he has the most star power in the draft.
kaiiu
05-18-2011, 06:19 PM
Your a Cleveland fan, what do you think of taking Kemba Walker at 4? I feel like he has the most star power in the draft.
5'11 inefficient shooting guard. DO.NOT.WANT
RedBlackAttack
05-18-2011, 06:20 PM
Your a Cleveland fan, what do you think of taking Kemba Walker at 4? I feel like he has the most star power in the draft.
Don't like it. First of all, we're going to take Irving No. 1, so Walker would make no sense at No. 4.
Secondly, he is an undersized combo guard. He is a good scorer, but I don't see him as a natural point... Which is what I really want. I would also worry about his defense on the NBA level.
I think that Brandon Knight has higher potential as a PG in the NBA.
PoppaHops
05-18-2011, 11:35 PM
This confirms it. I'm on crack.
JtotheIzzo
05-19-2011, 12:21 AM
I was higher on this kid (from what I heard) before I watched that video.
He looks like a f*ckin still in the video (though the exciting highlights of him shooting free throws almost swayed me...).
PB, you suck.
Euroleague
05-19-2011, 04:51 AM
The LKL is a horrible level of competition. It is by far and away one of the very worst leagues in Europe - barely even at a pro level. This thread is retarded.
Euroleague
05-19-2011, 04:52 AM
No offense...but I don't think this guy can be very effective in the NBA. Best case scenario Leon Powe? I mean, you look at Splitter highlights and coming in, people were saying he's a sure thing Scola-clone but with BETTER defense. Look how that turned out and I think Splitter is much much much better than Jonas.
Splitter always sucked in Europe. Whoever said he was better than Scola needs to be banned.
Euroleague
05-19-2011, 04:59 AM
That is much better than the OP video... MUCH better. After watching PB's video, I began to get very concerned that we might actually end up with that guy.
After watching this one, I feel a little better about him... Still not completely sold, though.
LKL and junior national team games.............in other words very, very low level of competition.
In the Euroleague (high level competition) he is below average on offense and horrible on defense. I like him and I think he will be a very good player in time, especially because he is a really good rebounder.
But as of right now he is just a project and nothing more. He would not even see the court in the Euroleague at all if his team was not trying to get a buyout for him.
Clutch
05-19-2011, 05:02 AM
Splitter always sucked in Europe. Whoever said he was better than Scola needs to be banned.
That's why he was the MVP in Spanish league and First-team Euroleague ?
Somehow you say that every player from Europe who doesn't play very well in the NBA sucked.
It's not just Splitter,you say that for all of them.
Also you open many Euroleague > NBA threads so you probably want to make it seems like Euoleague is better than the NBA.
I'm also from Europe but please stop trolling
kumquat
05-19-2011, 05:16 AM
"7 gram rock please"
http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01268/CharlieSheen_12_68_1268537a.jpg
He looks like a D-League scrub.
jamal99
05-19-2011, 05:18 AM
I'm not sold on him.
Just doesn't look like he can have much of an impact in the NBA...
JGXEN
05-19-2011, 05:30 AM
No way he's going to back down NBA bigs like he did to those soft euros.
JustinJDW
05-19-2011, 06:04 AM
Wow, that Euro basketball was pretty hard to watch. Its like no one out there knew what the **** they were doing. And there was like seven people there. Thats better than the Heat but still....
No offense...but I don't think this guy can be very effective in the NBA. Best case scenario Leon Powe? I mean, you look at Splitter highlights and coming in, people were saying he's a sure thing Scola-clone but with BETTER defense. Look how that turned out and I think Splitter is much much much better than Jonas.Splitter was actually a baller whenever he played and did everything he was doing in Europe, here in the NBA. Beautiful passer, can run the floor, sets great screens, plays perfect pick-n-roll d and help d, and altered shots everywhere in the paint.
He just didn't get any ****ing playing time. Averaged like 9mpg. :facepalm
Human Error
05-19-2011, 06:21 AM
Keep the posts coming. This may be my Greatest Me > You threads ever (and I have several).
The same crackhead who said the Cavaliers would 55 games this season without LeBron. :oldlol: When will you ever learn? :facepalm
chains5000
05-19-2011, 07:21 AM
Splitter always sucked in Europe. Whoever said he was better than Scola needs to be banned.
:facepalm
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sh0wtime
05-19-2011, 07:28 AM
Well, i choose the crack.
Funnyfuka
05-19-2011, 08:15 AM
the players he plays against in this video are all like sticks.... in the nba most players are twice heavier than them. That's the problems with euros when they come in the nba; they re physically outclassed, whatever how skilled they are. The heaviest ones survive -gasol brothers, scola-
OhNoTimNoSho
05-19-2011, 08:49 AM
Damn it, Ive been clean for a year and I have apparently relapsed.
cavsfanatic
05-19-2011, 08:56 AM
He won't be in the Nba for years because of some contract issues. Cavs can't risk not having a player drafted at 1 or 4 and not having him on roster next season. I don't want a Rubio so F him
Phenith
05-19-2011, 09:25 AM
I believe he can become a good nba player, but that video did less than convince me.
Sakkreth
05-19-2011, 10:08 AM
The LKL is a horrible level of competition. It is by far and away one of the very worst leagues in Europe - barely even at a pro level. This thread is retarded.
Your statement is retarded like you are. League has 2 euroelague teams and one eurocup team which finished only fifth this season in national league. It's not an elite league, but it's strong league in european context. U deserve a ban for having no respect for lithuanian basketball and throwing statements like that just to fit ur agenda.
Lietuvos Rytas (Valanciunas team) is played in Euroelague and VTB aswell, not only LKL, and Valanciunas was decent vs Euroleague teams aswell.
fatboy11
05-19-2011, 11:29 AM
Sometimes people just need to shut up when they don't know what they're saying.
What have I said that's false?
That the crowd looked sparse?
That there was a bunch of skinny guys out there?
That he doesn't look like he weighs 240 pounds?
That the level of competition shown in that video is not likely top level competition?
AI3Anthony
05-19-2011, 11:31 AM
There are videos like this EVERY year on Euro players that make them look good and they never turn out to actually be good. Not sold until I see him perform in the NBA.
fatboy11
05-19-2011, 11:33 AM
There are videos like this EVERY year on Euro players that make them look good and they never turn out to actually be good. Not sold until I see him perform in the NBA.
Except this one didn't even make the player look that good.
dunksby
05-19-2011, 11:33 AM
I guess Im on crack then?
He looks like he would need some conditioning just to be as good as Omer Asik.
Brickz187
05-19-2011, 02:39 PM
I still have yet to see any of these hyped up Euro players be a success in the NBA. More hype then anything. Same thing happens every year and same results happen.
I still have yet to see any of these hyped up Euro players be a success in the NBA. More hype then anything. Same thing happens every year and same results happen.
They are some of the best players in the NBA. Where have you been? :wtf:
Euros busting are no different than college kids/HSers who were hyped up busting. Some make it, others dont.
Rake2204
05-19-2011, 03:21 PM
this is just a gateway thread, soon everyone will be free-basing and huffing paint
http://baby-ace.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/Paint-huffing-husband.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-ppI-_GO8Yi8/Tcm92-AauCI/AAAAAAAAAAo/SQ5M0DSquqY/s1600/paint_huffer.jpg
FadeAwayJ13
05-19-2011, 04:36 PM
Seems like this kid is getting by on his potential. After watching this video, it looks like he's doing pretty well in a pretty shitty league. He's extremely raw at this point, and if you're taking this guy in the top five, it just shows how bad this draft really is. I hope the Raptors stay away from him.
NuggetsFan
05-19-2011, 05:04 PM
If you get sold on a prospect after watching a 3 minute video your on CRACK.
WadeRekeforlife
05-19-2011, 05:23 PM
Omer Asik at age 21 http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=000709&seasoncode=E2007
Luis Scola at 20 http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=AJG&seasoncode=E2000
Marc Gasol at 19 http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=CAK&seasoncode=E2004+++++
Jonas Brotha at 18 http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=000898
Tiago Splitter at 19 http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=CBY&seasoncode=E2004
Pau Gasol at 20 http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=ADF&seasoncode=E2000
Borat_Sagdyev
05-19-2011, 06:43 PM
He is very fast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAiv2EOsx8&feature=related
The LKL is a horrible level of competition. It is by far and away one of the very worst leagues in Europe - barely even at a pro level. This thread is retarded.
Clown :oldlol:
This year, he is competing in the highest level of European basketball in the Euroleague as well, and ranks as one of the top players in the competition on a per-40 minute basis in points (21.8), rebounds (13.6), blocks (1.8), field goal percentage (74.4%), free throw percentage (87.5%), and fouls (9.1).
Nastradamus
05-19-2011, 06:54 PM
If he can play Noah like defense with the offense he brings to the table, he'll be sick! The one issue is obviously the buyouts
Nastradamus
05-19-2011, 07:05 PM
Jonas is a 6'11 "dude" who plays like he's 6-11.
F*ck outta here with this garbage comparison. :oldlol:
I'd have to agree here, every scouting report on Valanciunas starts off by calling him a guy who does his damage at the rim
G-train
05-19-2011, 07:09 PM
Looks like a Nesterovich type.
josh99
05-19-2011, 07:36 PM
Wtf did you see in him? He made some close shots around the basket, and contested some shots at the other end, was pretty much just another big tall guy. He's post moves considered of awkwardly backing down and finishing with a job hook, no way he'd be able to do this in the NBA as his body just doesn't have the strength by the looks of it. And this is one of his best games??
fatboy11
05-19-2011, 07:42 PM
This year, he is competing in the highest level of European basketball in the Euroleague as well, and ranks as one of the top players in the competition on a per-40 minute basis in points (21.8), rebounds (13.6), blocks (1.8), field goal percentage (74.4%), free throw percentage (87.5%), and fouls (9.1).
Blah blah blah.
You could make a lot of guys look better than they are by using a per 40 minute basis.
Try again.
G-train
05-19-2011, 07:49 PM
I still have yet to see any of these hyped up Euro players be a success in the NBA. More hype then anything. Same thing happens every year and same results happen.
http://www.onlineusanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Dirk-Nowitzki-the-Lakers-loss.jpg
Borat_Sagdyev
05-19-2011, 07:57 PM
Blah blah blah.
You could make a lot of guys look better than they are by using a per 40 minute basis.
Try again.
OK.
Valancuinas http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=000898&clubcode=LIE&seasoncode=e2010
Marc Gasol at the same age in Euroleague http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=CAK&seasoncode=E2003+++++
Borat_Sagdyev
05-19-2011, 07:59 PM
http://www.onlineusanews.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Dirk-Nowitzki-the-Lakers-loss.jpg
http://www.interbasket.net/players/pau_tp_ak_thumb.jpg
fatboy11
05-19-2011, 08:01 PM
OK.
Valancuinas http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=000898&clubcode=LIE&seasoncode=e2010
Marc Gasol at the same age in Euroleague http://www.euroleague.net/competition/players/showplayer?pcode=CAK&seasoncode=E2003+++++
Okay.
Are you trying to sell me on the guy or help me prove my own point? My point being that it's hard to be impressed with video clips against boney defenders, not that this kid isn't good. I'm just saying it's hard to take something impressive away from the video clips being thrown around. It doesn't matter to me that players with similar stats have come to the NBA and been successful because players with better stats have come and fell flat on their faces.
fatboy11
05-19-2011, 08:04 PM
http://www.interbasket.net/players/pau_tp_ak_thumb.jpg
Who is the guy in the Pistons jersey? I know I'm going to know when it's said, but I can't think of it right now.
RoseCity07
05-19-2011, 08:10 PM
Every year they say it is a weak draft but there are always interesting prospects like this kid that might actually become something in this league.
Borat_Sagdyev
05-19-2011, 08:16 PM
Okay.
Are you trying to sell me on the guy or help me prove my own point? My point being that it's hard to be impressed with video clips against boney defenders, not that this kid isn't good. I'm just saying it's hard to take something impressive away from the video clips being thrown around. It doesn't matter to me that players with similar stats have come to the NBA and been successful because players with better stats have come and fell flat on their faces.
I agree with you, just object Lakas/Euroleague.
Who is the guy in the Pistons jersey? I know I'm going to know when it's said, but I can't think of it right now.
PleezeBelieve
05-20-2011, 08:55 PM
Highlights from his play over the past two weeks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbF1X10UXHw&feature=player_embedded#at=77
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
This dude is tough as NAILS. Plays downhill through contact on both offense and defense. Guy has a GREAT motor. Crazy height + length + wingspan measurables. Pure free throw stroke. Doesn't give up on anything. He plays with an attitude, almost like he's a f*cking brotha. :oldlol:
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm @ you lame mofos. This thread will just another example why I'm the GREATEST TALENT EVALUATOR ON THE NET. You lames already coming around on Jeremy Tyler. I called that six months ago.
I'm FIRMLY convinced this guy will be a top 10 player in the NBA one day. An Irving + Valanviunas combo will wreck havoc on your teams for the next half generation.
L.Kizzle
05-20-2011, 09:34 PM
http://www.interbasket.net/players/pau_tp_ak_thumb.jpg
Looks like a cover for a male adult film?
PleezeBelieve
05-20-2011, 09:43 PM
Back to the Main Forum.
Appropriate move, Jeff. :applause:
Dasher
05-20-2011, 09:55 PM
Whenever someone gets done using their crack pipe can I borrow it? Thanks
A real crackhead would never let anyone borrow his bitch.
kumquat
05-20-2011, 09:59 PM
Who is the guy in the Pistons jersey? I know I'm going to know when it's said, but I can't think of it right now.
Zeljko Rebraca
BarberSchool
05-20-2011, 10:21 PM
Chris Anderson with a dash of Timmay at best.
Jay-A
05-20-2011, 10:42 PM
Chris Anderson with a dash of Timmay at best.
No. Try again.
NBAdraft.net NBA comparison: Primoz Brezic. :facepalm Also: Jan Vesely - Mike Dunleavy; Jimmer Fredette - Mark Price (!!!)
When will NBAdraft.net be not racist and not retarded?
Sakkreth
05-21-2011, 07:21 AM
Highlights from his play over the past two weeks:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbF1X10UXHw&feature=player_embedded#at=77
:bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown: :bowdown:
This dude is tough as NAILS. Plays downhill through contact on both offense and defense. Guy has a GREAT motor. Crazy height + length + wingspan measurables. Pure free throw stroke. Doesn't give up on anything. He plays with an attitude, almost like he's a f*cking brotha. :oldlol:
:facepalm :facepalm :facepalm :facepalm @ you lame mofos. This thread will just another example why I'm the GREATEST TALENT EVALUATOR ON THE NET. You lames already coming around on Jeremy Tyler. I called that six months ago.
I'm FIRMLY convinced this guy will be a top 10 player in the NBA one day. An Irving + Valanviunas combo will wreck havoc on your teams for the next half generation.
I watched all the final games (I am from Lithuania), Valanciunas' team lost series 4-1 to my hometown team Zalgiris :pimp: , he was the only threat inside for my team tho.
He can become great player, all-star level even, but he may be the bust aswell, noone can guarantee, I am leaning towards solid player, but non an all-star. You are hyping him way to much.
alenleomessi
05-21-2011, 08:46 AM
NBAdraft.net NBA comparison: Primoz Brezic. :facepalm Also: Jan Vesely - Mike Dunleavy; Jimmer Fredette - Mark Price (!!!)
When will NBAdraft.net be not racist and not retarded?
really? :roll: wow...
jamal99
05-21-2011, 09:07 AM
really? :roll: wow...
Lol at the comparison, they have like NOTHING in common...
Notorious D.M.C
05-21-2011, 12:32 PM
Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams are still alive, so this guy definitely isn't worthy of the #1 pick, but yea he's pretty good
Derrick Williams doesn't seem worthy of a top 2 pick.
fatboy11
05-21-2011, 12:33 PM
Derrick Williams doesn't seem worthy of a top 2 pick.
He is in this draft. Most years, no.
El Seano
05-21-2011, 01:28 PM
Gather 'round children and let me tell you a tale of a player named Darko Milicic...
Sakkreth
05-21-2011, 02:52 PM
Gather 'round children and let me tell you a tale of a player named Darko Milicic...
I answer you with a tale of Dirk Nowitzki
Euroleague
05-21-2011, 03:06 PM
That's why he was the MVP in Spanish league and First-team Euroleague ?
Somehow you say that every player from Europe who doesn't play very well in the NBA sucked.
It's not just Splitter,you say that for all of them.
Also you open many Euroleague > NBA threads so you probably want to make it seems like Euoleague is better than the NBA.
I'm also from Europe but please stop trolling
Splitter has always been a horrible offensive player. He is great defense and great at pick and roll on offense. Pretty good at rebounding. His individual offense is high school level and always has been.
You sure the hell don't live in Europe.
Euroleague
05-21-2011, 03:07 PM
No way he's going to back down NBA bigs like he did to those soft euros.
He does not back down any "Euros" in Euroleague genius.
Euroleague
05-21-2011, 03:07 PM
[QUOTE=chains5000]:facepalm
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Euroleague
05-21-2011, 03:09 PM
the players he plays against in this video are all like sticks.... in the nba most players are twice heavier than them. That's the problems with euros when they come in the nba; they re physically outclassed, whatever how skilled they are. The heaviest ones survive -gasol brothers, scola-
Like I said, he is playing against amateur and high school players there. That is not Euroleague competition. AND 90% of American high school players are skinny weaklings that are like toothpicks.
Euroleague
05-21-2011, 03:10 PM
Your statement is retarded like you are. League has 2 euroelague teams and one eurocup team which finished only fifth this season in national league. It's not an elite league, but it's strong league in european context. U deserve a ban for having no respect for lithuanian basketball and throwing statements like that just to fit ur agenda.
Lietuvos Rytas (Valanciunas team) is played in Euroelague and VTB aswell, not only LKL, and Valanciunas was decent vs Euroleague teams aswell.
LKL is a POS league. Even the horrible, horrible, horrible NBA D-League is better.
Euroleague
05-21-2011, 03:11 PM
He is very fast
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYAiv2EOsx8&feature=related
Clown :oldlol:
Hey CLOWN, he is one of the worst defenders in the Euroleague. He gets easily thrown around by Euroleague big men. CLOWN.:lol :oldlol: :roll:
Euroleague
05-21-2011, 03:13 PM
NBAdraft.net NBA comparison: Primoz Brezic. :facepalm Also: Jan Vesely - Mike Dunleavy; Jimmer Fredette - Mark Price (!!!)
When will NBAdraft.net be not racist and not retarded?
Every single person involved with nbadraft.net is extremely racist - so never.
BlueandGold
05-21-2011, 03:15 PM
Is this video a joke? The only thing about his game or build that even resembles an NBA talent is his length. He's got no hops, no physicality/weight, looks injury prone and he has nowhere near the raw basketball skills like other European-ers at that age such as Manu, Dirk or Gasol.
CeltsGarlic
05-21-2011, 03:17 PM
Is this video a joke? The only thing about his game or build that even resembles an NBA talent is his length. He's got no hops, no physicality/weight, looks injury prone and he has nowhere near the raw basketball skills like other European-ers at that age such as Manu, Dirk or Gasol.
wtf
CeltsGarlic
05-21-2011, 03:18 PM
LKL is a POS league. Even the horrible, horrible, horrible NBA D-League is better.
You dont watch LKL, do you?
madmax
05-21-2011, 03:18 PM
LKL is a POS league. Even the horrible, horrible, horrible NBA D-League is better.
hey tool, if LKL is so horrible, how did Valanciunas and his team beat almighty Euroleague champions PAO on their home floor?:cheers:
BlueandGold
05-21-2011, 03:20 PM
wtf
Oh sorry I forgot people on this forum don't even bother explaining themselves.
WesWelkerACL
05-21-2011, 03:26 PM
hey tool, if LKL is so horrible, how did Valanciunas and his team beat almighty Euroleague champions PAO on their home floor?:cheers:
Can't wait to hear his answer, I'm going to go out on a limb and predict it will be something stupid.
miles berg
05-21-2011, 03:36 PM
I have watched him several times, there is no doubt he is the best player in this draft and you won't have to draft him #1 overall due to the American hype placed on the other players.
Cleveland could easily end up with the two best players in the draft, one at PG, the other at C, and be back to being a contender in three years.
Easily.
bdreason
05-21-2011, 03:43 PM
Another gem from no links yo.
Sakkreth
05-21-2011, 04:40 PM
I have watched him several times, there is no doubt he is the best player in this draft and you won't have to draft him #1 overall due to the American hype placed on the other players.
Cleveland could easily end up with the two best players in the draft, one at PG, the other at C, and be back to being a contender in three years.
Easily.
Valanciunas should be PF in NBA.
Jay-A
05-21-2011, 05:03 PM
I have watched him several times, there is no doubt he is the best player in this draft and you won't have to draft him #1 overall due to the American hype placed on the other players.
Cleveland could easily end up with the two best players in the draft, one at PG, the other at C, and be back to being a contender in three years.
Easily.
This man knows what he's talking about. Props to him.
Jay-A
05-21-2011, 05:09 PM
Valanciunas should be PF in NBA.
He'll be the best center/power forward hybrid in the league. I find it laughable people can't see how good this guy will be. :oldlol:
kumquat
05-23-2011, 07:43 PM
This guy has bust written all over him. He's weak, unskilled, unathletic. Only thing going for him is his length.
Basketball Dirk
05-23-2011, 07:56 PM
This guy has bust written all over him. He's weak, unskilled, unathletic. Only thing going for him is his length.
If he gets his hands on the magic NBA juice he'll be stronger and more athletic.
kumquat
05-23-2011, 08:07 PM
If he gets his hands on the magic NBA juice he'll be stronger and more athletic.
Ummmm no just no. He doesn't have the frame to put on any significant weight, he is RAIL THIN. As for his athleticism, barely gets any lift to the point he struggles to make oops. He looks like he has below average lane agility.
I don't think i've ever looked at a player and thought straight out bust like this guy.
rosonviyavong
05-23-2011, 08:35 PM
I just hate RAW big men like Darko, Thabeet, and Oden so im going to riot if Raptors draft this kid
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