LeBron-Durant rivalry

[28renyoy]

Is this the year it officially begins? Magic VS Bird happened when magic was 22 and bird was 25. Durant is 22 and LeBron is 26. It just seems like both of these teams will be matched up in the finals for a long time over the next decade.

[TylerOO]

It cant be a rivalry if the Heat are gonna win it every year they match up

[jb220]

Thunder won't ever be as good as Miami in this era

[Nastradamus]

The league would love it as a hero/villain storyline.

Lebron/Wade v. Rose and Lebron/Wade v. Melo/Amare are more likely due to conference.

[28renyoy]

Also disregard heat fans, they are intellectually inferior

[Nastradamus]

Thunder won't ever be as good as Miami in this era

Huh? I think they beat Miami right now in a 7 game series. Thabo,Harden and Westbrook will do a solid job on Wade and Durant has typically won his matchup with Bron. Westbrook will kill their PGs and OKC has much better size down low. Perkins and Ibaka are a great formula for keeping the big 2 out of the lane.

On a slightly unrelated not, man, I really think OKC should have signed Milsap when he was a FA.

[Dave3]

Meh. The Magic Bird rivalry existed only because it was debatable who was better between them. There won't be a debate between LeBron and Durant for another couple of years when LeBron falls off, and by that time it'll be similar to the Kobe/LeBron "rivalry" now, where there's no actual competition between them other than the fact that Kobe was the best player, and LeBron is the best now.

[kaiiu]

Its nor fair doe. Lebron has Wade and Bosh.

The Cs/Lakers rosters were for the most part equal in the 80s

[28renyoy]

Huh? I think they beat Miami right now in a 7 game series. Thabo,Harden and Westbrook will do a solid job on Wade and Durant has typically won his matchup with Bron. Westbrook will kill their PGs and OKC has much better size down low. Perkins and Ibaka are a great formula for keeping the big 2 out of the lane.

On a slightly unrelated not, man, I really think OKC should have signed Milsap when he was a FA.

Durant has outplayed LeBron by a fair margin this season, but LeBron outplayed him Durants rookie and 2nd season

[TylerOO]

Durants TS% is better therefore he will win!

:facepalm *******s.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Nowhere close to Magic & Bird!

[Samurai Swoosh]

Don't count your chickens ... you still got to get past "The Diggler"

As far as the comparison between LeBron / Durant?

Would've been fun last year, given LeBron's skill set and playing style.

Now it would be boring as hell because he's slow, heavy and plays like a psuedo Power Forward ... in other words ... he's boring.

[TylerOO]

Don't count your chickens ... you still got to get past "The Diggler"

As far as the comparison between LeBron / Durant?

Would've been fun last year, given LeBron's skill set and playing style.

Now it would be boring as hell because he's slow, heavy and plays like a psuedo Power Forward ... in other words ... he's boring.

Obvious troll is Obvious. Dont be mad

[Indian guy]

Now it would be boring as hell because he's slow, heavy and plays like a psuedo Power Forward ... in other words ... he's boring.

I'd say LeBron's basically a better-rounded Paul Pierce now.

[Theoo's Daddy]

Don't count your chickens ... you still got to get past "The Diggler"

As far as the comparison between LeBron / Durant?

Would've been fun last year, given LeBron's skill set and playing style.

Now it would be boring as hell because he's slow, heavy and plays like a psuedo Power Forward ... in other words ... he's boring.

you get entertained watching rose, chuck shots after shots ?. :oldlol:

[Samurai Swoosh]

I'd say LeBron's basically a better-rounded Paul Pierce now.
Kind of ... I've actually still manage to see Pierce get by people off the dribble from time to time.


get entertained watching rose, chuck shots after shots ?
And cross up cats left and right, break ankles, contort his body in mid-air for amazing reverse layups, throw down sick dunks off insane verticle, dominating at precise clutch moments and win MVP? Yes ... he's very entertaining.

[ballerz]

Don't think there rivalry would start just yet but if they got a dominant big man they would have a more close rivalry

[FKAri]

One is a better scorer and the other is better at everything else.

[Papaya Petee]

Don't think there rivalry would start just yet but if they got a dominant big man they would have a more close rivalry
More like one is better at everything.

LeBron has a higher regular season PPG, playoff PPG, career high, FG% etc. etc.


Plus isn't he like 7-1 against Durant all time?

[28renyoy]

:roll:

good god lebron tots are dumb

lebron & durant years 1-4

they average the same amount of points, durant with much higher efficiency
durant blocks more shots
rebounding is equal
lebron is a better passer
durant averages fewer turnovers
durant is far more clutch

[widowmaker]

More like one is better at everything.

LeBron has a higher regular season PPG, playoff PPG, career high, FG% etc. etc.


Plus isn't he like 7-1 against Durant all time?
yeah lebron is a better shooter.. :facepalm

[Dolphin]

:roll:

good god lebron tots are dumb

lebron & durant years 1-4

they average the same amount of points, durant with much higher efficiency
durant blocks more shots
rebounding is equal
lebron is a better passer
durant averages fewer turnovers
durant is far more clutch

They are equal scorers hence why the produce about the same in similar situations. Would rather have Kobe in his prime than Durant as a scorer and he was less efficient as well. Efficiency doesn't tell the whole story.

Blocked shots isn't that important of a stat for small forwards. I mean c'mon. What is it 1.2 vs .7 per game? lol

Lebron is a better rebounder and you'd have to be clueless to choose Durant over Lebron to be on the court at the SF position if you need a rebound. He's simply stronger and he does have better instincts rebounding.

Yes, Lebron is a better passer.

Durant is prone to fewer mistakes, but Lebron isn't bad unlike Wade.

Durant has never proven much in his career to be thought of as clutch. If clutch is simply scoring late (4th Q)....Lebron does too. If clutch means big shots during the last plays of a game, Lebron hasn't been so clutch throughout his career, but Durant's body of work isn't really there to compare anyways in that sense....Especially not in the playoffs. Don't know where you're getting this idea from.

Durant is a better pure shooter though.

Lebron is a better defender and that's clear as day.

Durant is a great player, but I don't get how anyone can say he's as good as Lebron when taking into consideration all the important parts of a game concerning a small forward. Plus, statistically in the three most important statistics people use, Lebron is head and shoulders above Durant throughout his career.

[tpols]

Durant is a dominant off the ball player and shooter. He can dribble in spurts but it's usually just one or two dribbles out of the triple threat position.

Lebron is the exact opposite. He's mediocre at best off the ball and great when he has the ball in his hands for long periods of time.

They represent opposite styles, but durant is quickly catching up in impact. In the playoffs so far it's really a toss up. I hope we see an OKC-MIA Finals.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Lebron is the exact opposite. He's mediocre at best off the ball and great when he has the ball in his hands for long periods of time.
Don't mince words. LeBron is straight up horrific without the ball. All he does is float to the corner of the court and watch.

[tpols]

Don't mince words. LeBron is straight up horrific without the ball. All he does is float to the corner of the court and watch.
Yea I guess.. I thought he definitely improved from what he was in cleveland. Now he'll actually fight for post position down low and cut once in a while. Still not a good off the ball player though. I don't think he can even catch and shoot off of a cut. He has to either pull up off the dribble or be standing still when he catches it.

[ThaSwagg3r]

The next thing Durant has to improve on to be on Lebron's level, is defense. He is a pretty good defender at the moment. But he needs to be a great defender in order to be on LeBron's level. Durant is already a top 5 player in the league without great defense so that is a great accomplishment by him.

[supermechasonic]

I will say Lebron fights for post position more. He is good at setting pics for Wade, really good actually. Durant is a much better catch and shoot player. Durant seems to have very little impact on games however if he isn't shooting well. Also, he settles for some hail mary shoots far, far to often.

I still have Lebron ahead of Durant, and I suspect he will be an all around better player for about 2-5 more years. All depends on How good Durant becomes and if Lebron gains back some of his explosiveness, becomes mores killed, etc.

[lefthook00]

Durant isn't as good as LeBron at running a team. He is the #1 scoring option, not the team-runner like LeBron was in Cleveland. I guess what I'm trying to say is that he doesn't have the skills to be a really good point forward.

[28renyoy]

Durant isn't as good as LeBron at running a team. He is the #1 scoring option, not the team-runner like LeBron was in Cleveland. I guess what I'm trying to say is that he doesn't have the skills to be a really good point forward.

Why would you want him to be? How many championships did LeBron win at the point forward? Hell how many Finals wins did he have? Durant's impact allows his PG to flourish

[LBJWADE]

Why would you want him to be? How many championships did LeBron win at the point forward? Hell how many Finals wins did he have? Durant's impact allows his PG to flourish
:lol

[lilgodfather1]

The Bird - Magic rivalry was great because they were so close as players. LeBron is so far beyond durant as a player that there won't be a rivalry until Durant is 32 and LeBron is 36. LeBron is THAT MUCH BETTER.

[Christofire]

Why would you want him to be? How many championships did LeBron win at the point forward? Hell how many Finals wins did he have? Durant's impact allows his PG to flourish


wish people would understand these such things....people have fallen in love with the 7 rebs 7 assissts Jazz. Me personally, i don't care to see Durant average any more than 4 assists, 5 at most. His game fits perfectly into any system. His ability to produce with imposing on his teammates game is something special that you dont see in very many superstars that for the most part need the ball in their hands to be great. Durant can kill without ever dribbling the ball. he allows westbrook to be the PG, allows perkins and Ibaka to to be the best on boards, and he handles the scoring and the defending. As far as passing goes you don't need him to facilitate or even look to facilitae all u need from him is to make the passing plays where the opportunity presents itself.

[LBJWADE]

Lebron's greatest rival was Wade. But we all know what happened :rolleyes:

[TylerOO]

The Bird - Magic rivalry was great because they were so close as players. LeBron is so far beyond durant as a player that there won't be a rivalry until Durant is 32 and LeBron is 36. LeBron is THAT MUCH BETTER.

Agreed. Durant cant even smell LeGoat right now.

[LBJWADE]

Agreed. Durant cant even smell LeGoat right now.

I know you can be older than 20 yrs old because you listen to Oddfuture :facepalm

[Christofire]

The Bird - Magic rivalry was great because they were so close as players. LeBron is so far beyond durant as a player that there won't be a rivalry until Durant is 32 and LeBron is 36. LeBron is THAT MUCH BETTER.


lol...James won't even be top 5 @ 40 much less 36

[28renyoy]

The Bird - Magic rivalry was great because they were so close as players. LeBron is so far beyond durant as a player that there won't be a rivalry until Durant is 32 and LeBron is 36. LeBron is THAT MUCH BETTER.

You're embarrassing yourself, then again you are an idiot.

[lilgodfather1]

You're embarrassing yourself, then again you are an idiot.
I learned from you. You're the OG of retards.

[28renyoy]

I learned from you. You're the OG of retards.

haha send my condolences to your parents

[TylerOO]

I know you can be older than 20 yrs old because you listen to Oddfuture :facepalm

Whatever lol :confusedshrug: Keep bumpin Drake and Lil Wayne and move along.

[Mr. Jabbar]

There are no rivalries, the best joins the best, its the new pussified era lebron installed in this league.

[HylianNightmare]

Hey are both better at somethings that the other doesn't do so well

[LBJWADE]

Whatever lol :confusedshrug: Keep bumpin Drake and Lil Wayne and move along.
:lol

[Hoopz2332]

Durant aint on brons level/tier..Durant can't impact a game when he's not scoring.

1st tier

lebron, wade, Cp3 and Dwight

..Durant is the tier below that.

Lebron is a better scorer (dont come at we with that BS TS% nonsese which he only beats lebron out by a hairbecause of his FT shooting but look at their actual true raw FG%....lebron flat out puts the hoop in hole at a better rate)

better passer

better rebounder

better defender

more eff

more versatile

more impactful

:rockon:

[TylerOO]

:lol

:lol Ok I see you dont listen to him and think he is joke. Thats a plus and something we have in common

[lilgodfather1]

haha send my condolences to your parents
I will do so when you admit LeBron is a far better player than Durant.

[LBJWADE]

:lol Ok I see you dont listen to him and think he is joke. Thats a plus and something we have in common

Hell naw! :lol nursery ryhmes.

[Kingwillball]

I'd say LeBron's basically a better-rounded Paul Pierce now.

Maybe Im alone But I still Think Lebron has a Chance to look like his old self again if He drops a little bit of Weight.. I think the extra Bulk and a long season of Logging heavy minutes has caught up to him over the 2nd half of the season. If U noticed in preseason and early Regular season Lebron had alot more High Flying plays with this same size..This whole slowing down bit really started after the all star break and During that 5 gm losing streak is when I really noticed it when He couldn't get to the Rim on Drive against Knicks or Bulls to Close gm..

[Samurai Swoosh]

Maybe Im alone But I still Think Lebron has a Chance to look like his old self again if He drops a little bit of Weight.. I think the extra Bulk and a long season of Logging heavy minutes has caught up to him over the 2nd half of the season. If U noticed in preseason and early Regular season Lebron had alot more High Flying plays with this same size..This whole slowing down bit really started after the all star break and During that 5 gm losing streak is when I really noticed it when He couldn't get to the Rim on Drive against Knicks or Bulls to Close gm..
Let's hope ... I want old exciting LeBron back.

[supermechasonic]

The weight is slowing him down, no doubt about it. How much is the question.

[nycelt84]

It makes no sense to compare this to Magic vs Bird even if they meet in the Finals. Magic and Bird were rivals even before coming into the NBA and going to the Celtics and Lakers just made the rivalry bigger before they played a single NBA game.

[Nash]

Oh, this is so boring. A few days ago it was Rose, then Dwight, then Wade, then it was Dirk, now its Durant and tomorrow it is probably someone else. There is nobody better than Lebron today, lets just leave it at that.

[AlphaWolf24]

Oh, this is so boring. A few days ago it was Rose, then Dwight, then Wade, then it was Dirk, now its Durant and tomorrow it is probably someone else. There is nobody better than Lebron today, lets just leave it at that.


sorry Durant is a better player and a Far better leader.....I would take Durant over the "Chosen 1" allday everyday and twice on Sunday...


Durant has Bird/Jordan/Bryant like qualities.....LeBron left a 65 win team to ring chase with Wade.....




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[kaiiu]

sorry Durant is a better player and a Far better leader.....I would take Durant over the "Chosen 1" allday everyday and twice on Sunday...


Durant has Bird/Jordan/Bryant like qualities.....LeBron left a 65 win team to ring chase with Wade.....




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[asdf1990]

sorry Durant is a better player and a Far better leader.....I would take Durant over the "Chosen 1" allday everyday and twice on Sunday...


Durant has Bird/Jordan/Bryant like qualities.....LeBron left a 65 win team to ring chase with Wade.....




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smh so what kind of qualities does ur hero kobe have? he demanded a trade after shaq left and they sucked. He quit on his team in three different series. He has lost be 30 plus points in close out games like 7 times in his career.

[AlphaWolf24]

smh so what kind of qualities does ur hero kobe have? he demanded a trade after shaq left and they sucked. He quit on his team in three different series. He has lost be 30 plus points in close out games like 7 times in his career.


meh...Jordan had multiple falling out's with the Bull's management and teamates not to mention "quitting" in the playoffs vs Detroit, Bird had many altercations off the court that was not good for the team and Kobe has had his issues in a time of multiple media outlets and the internet era.


But with all that being said....all the problems and obstacles....NONE I repeat NONE of the players I mentioned QUIT to go Ring Chase(especially after winning 65 games)....nope...they stood up moved forward...stayed and...... won.


so please spare us your hatred for the greatest player of his generation and one of the greatest winners in NBA History..it's tired and silly.




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[madmax]

What rivalry? Lebron wins all the matchups...:lol :cheers:

[Gundress]

It makes no sense to compare this to Magic vs Bird even if they meet in the Finals. Magic and Bird were rivals even before coming into the NBA and going to the Celtics and Lakers just made the rivalry bigger before they played a single NBA game.


Exactly.

Dumb ass don't even know what the rivalry really is.

Bird vs Magic was really battle rivalry and they don't even like each other until became friend....even they fought against each other.

There's no really rivalry in the NBA today. They're just too friendly and the rules changed.

The truth is Melo vs LeBron was supposed to be rivalry, they against each other in High School and went the same year NBA Draft but they're just too friendly each other so it's not rivalry.

[Nash]

sorry Durant is a better player and a Far better leader.....I would take Durant over the "Chosen 1" allday everyday and twice on Sunday...


Durant has Bird/Jordan/Bryant like qualities.....LeBron left a 65 win team to ring chase with Wade.....




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Well, then you'd be the only GM in the league who'd do that.

Also, Lebron is known for being a good leader, whats up with that? Let Durant lead Lebron's scrubs in Cavs from last season and see how far his leadership would get them.

[Nash]

meh...Jordan had multiple falling out's with the Bull's management and teamates not to mention "quitting" in the playoffs vs Detroit, Bird had many altercations off the court that was not good for the team and Kobe has had his issues in a time of multiple media outlets and the internet era.


But with all that being said....all the problems and obstacles....NONE I repeat NONE of the players I mentioned QUIT to go Ring Chase(especially after winning 65 games)....nope...they stood up moved forward...stayed and...... won.


so please spare us your hatred for the greatest player of his generation and one of the greatest winners in NBA History..it's tired and silly.




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And NONE, NONE of those players had Mo feckin Williams as their second guy. Kobe wanted to leave when Lakers didn't have any players to compete.

Stop talking bullshit and put yourself in Lebron's position. Would you risk it and throw away more years of your short career on a team that has morons in front office that think that a 38 year old Shaq and Jamison is good enough? Cavs took Lebron for granted and they got to pay for that.

[Ikill]

Maybe Im alone But I still Think Lebron has a Chance to look like his old self again if He drops a little bit of Weight.. I think the extra Bulk and a long season of Logging heavy minutes has caught up to him over the 2nd half of the season. If U noticed in preseason and early Regular season Lebron had alot more High Flying plays with this same size..This whole slowing down bit really started after the all star break and During that 5 gm losing streak is when I really noticed it when He couldn't get to the Rim on Drive against Knicks or Bulls to Close gm..
Yeah he could i hope he does i also hope Wade loses some weight too as he gets older.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Yeah he could i hope he does i also hope Wade loses some weight too as he gets older.
Wade's three years older and still looks absolutely electrifying out there.

Only LeBron has lost significant steps.

[Ikill]

Wade's three years older and still looks absolutely electrifying out there.

Only LeBron has lost significant steps.
true

[asdf1990]

Wade's three years older and still looks absolutely electrifying out there.

Only LeBron has lost significant steps.

wade has also played 5000 fewer minutes than james playoffs and regular season combined. 5000/37.6 ( wades min per game for his career) = 133 games.

Wade is 133 games younger, 40-50 pounds lighter and about 4 inches shorter. No surprise that he is still pretty quick.

[Hoopz2332]

LBJ owns the servant:oldlol: