This hip hop generation and tattoos

[StateProperty]

http://c4.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images02/69/l_ef6d460073a94b72b5df1e3c6d61f67f.jpg

http://www.billboard.com/photos/stylus//109536-lil_wayne_tattoos_kat_von_d_617_409.jpg

http://www.howflyhiphop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/rick-ross-vibe-cover.jpg

http://d1535dk28ea235.cloudfront.net/preset_65/wiz-khalifa-tattoos-Pictures.jpg


I mean tattoos have always been a part of hip hop culture but not whole bodies covered. Wtf is this going to look like when they're 50+?

Worse is that it's not just the famous rappers (and Travis Barker) who have all these tattoos but the young nobodies I see everyday. I remember 10 years ago I used to hear how you didn't want to get a tattoo on a spot of your body where it'd show because of job prospects and now half of my college friends are getting tatted head to toe. :lol

Idk...anybody have tons of tattoos like the ones above? Or plan on "inking their whole body up" or think it looks cool?

[Crown&Coke]

wow, ricky ross needs a bra, I feel bad for Lincoln and Washingon, those two fellas are gonna be hanging around Ross' knees in about 10 years

[ace23]

wow, ricky ross needs a bra, I feel bad for Lincoln and Washingon, those two fellas are gonna be hanging around Ross' knees in about 10 years
:oldlol: But it actually looks like he's lost some weight.

[Crown&Coke]

:oldlol: But it actually looks like he's lost some weight.

so that explains where Franklin went...

[B-Low]

Wtf is this going to look like when they're 50+?

In the case of Wayne and Souja Boy, see Rick Ross lol. In the case or Rick Ross, see a tombstone.


Worse is that it's not just the famous rappers (and Travis Barker) who have all these tattoos but the young nobodies I see everyday. I remember 10 years ago I used to hear how you didn't want to get a tattoo on a spot of your body where it'd show because of job prospects and now half of my college friends are getting tatted head to toe. :lol

Idk...anybody have tons of tattoos like the ones above? Or plan on "inking their whole body up" or think it looks cool?

Yeah I won't get anything done below my elbows. Some of the girls at my job can't ever wear short sleeves because they have tattoos on their wrists and shit, and my cousin can't at his job because his forearms are tatted.

I don't plan on getting much else tattooed. I might get somethin small on my chest at some point but even that i'm not sure about. Right now i just have elbow-to-shoulder done on both arms. Not sleeves, just separate ones.

[step_back]

I have a tattoo running down the back of my left arm from the top of the triceps to my wrist. I can cover it up with a long sleeve shirt, which you are usually required to wear anyway among formal environments so it's never made a difference in that regard.

You really do have to take time in selecting something you like and putting it in a suitable place. It's possible to get tattoo's removed without scaring but it's costly and takes anywhere from 6-18 months depending on the size and colours.

I think the pictures you posted are over the top but it fits in with the image they are looking for "Bad Boy thug". That annoys me because personally I would like the general society to get pass the whole "Tattoo's are for bad boys" and look at it as a form of art for any type of person young and old.

[NastaMaverick]

ricky ross needs to lend a few pounds to Wiz...:facepalm

[StateProperty]

Yeah I won't get anything done below my elbows. Some of the girls at my job can't ever wear short sleeves because they have tattoos on their wrists and shit, and my cousin can't at his job because his forearms are tatted.

I don't plan on getting much else tattooed. I might get somethin small on my chest at some point but even that i'm not sure about. Right now i just have elbow-to-shoulder done on both arms. Not sleeves, just separate ones.
Yeah one of my friends is trying to be a cop but has both of his forearms tatted up, so he'll have to wear long sleeves no matter the weather. ****in dumb. :facepalm

[Crown&Coke]

Yeah one of my friends is trying to be a cop but has both of his forearms tatted up, so he'll have to wear long sleeves no matter the weather. ****in dumb. :facepalm

yea what kind of person wants to be a cop?

A buddy of mine was not allowed into the marines due to having sleeves on both arms, they said only 75% can be covered, what a joke. Like 75% looks more professional than an entire sleeve :facepalm

[FourthTenor]

I think the pictures you posted are over the top but it fits in with the image they are looking for "Bad Boy thug". That annoys me because personally I would like the general society to get pass the whole "Tattoo's are for bad boys" and look at it as a form of art for any type of person young and old.


well i think thats why most people get tattoos. i bet probably only like 10% of people who get them are really into ink culture like birdman anderson or deshawn stevenson, and the rest are just people who do it so they have somethin to show off if theyre ever in a group of other peeps that have ink.

i dunno, maybe not, but i personally know a lot of people who get them for that reason. its like they dont wanna find themselves in a group of dudes with their shirts off and be the only one to not have ink. but its not like they discovered the idea of tattooing and really thought "wow thats a really cool concept, ive got all these great ideas for things id like to get tatted with..."

[Loneshot]

Ridiculous.

[step_back]

well i think thats why most people get tattoos. i bet probably only like 10% of people who get them are really into ink culture like birdman anderson or deshawn stevenson, and the rest are just people who do it so they have somethin to show off if theyre ever in a group of other peeps that have ink.

i dunno, maybe not, but i personally know a lot of people who get them for that reason. its like they dont wanna find themselves in a group of dudes with their shirts off and be the only one to not have ink. but its not like they discovered the idea of tattooing and really thought "wow thats a really cool concept, ive got all these great ideas for things id like to get tatted with..."

That says more about them and there insecurities. NEVER get a tattoo because of someone else or the need to "Fit in". The people who do just that will never feel content.

[Brujesino]

Not just Hip Hop but basketball players too

New Monta Ellis tattoo

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/monta-ellis-chest-tattoo.jpg

[RedBlackAttack]

The hip hop culture is mirrored by the NBA (and vice-versa) and the culture's devotion to tattoos in the last 15 years is mind-boggling. I remember when people looked and talked about Dennis Rodman's tattoos as if he was out of his mind and a complete abomination.

Now, Rodman's tats wouldn't only go unnoticed, they are almost expected. It is really weird when you see an NBA star that ISN'T wearing sleeves of tattoos.

In a way, Rodman was the pioneer of this whole thing.

[Stuckey]

if i played ball for a living, i'd get two full sleeves so fast

i would never tattoo the neck though, just arms chest, back, legs w/e if i can cover it up with a suit then it's ok

[pete's montreux]

I got a tat right out of high school, the number 2 on my right shoulder blade.

[StateProperty]

Not just Hip Hop but basketball players too

New Monta Ellis tattoo

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/monta-ellis-chest-tattoo.jpg
saw that on PTI, the baby's head creeps me out

[RedBlackAttack]

I got a tat right out of high school, the number 2 on my right shoulder blade.
What does the '2' stand for?

I got a tattoo while I was still in high school (senior year). It is on my left ankle and it is 'MM' in red and black lettering. It stands for the neighborhood that I grew up in... Me and my six best friends all have it.

[pete's montreux]

What does the '2' stand for?

I got a tattoo while I was still in high school (senior year). It is on my left ankle and it is 'MM' in red and black lettering. It stands for the neighborhood that I grew up in... Me and my six best friends all have it.

It's so punk ass b*tches like you behind me know what place they're coming in.

[B-Low]

Rodman's at least look clean and you can make out what they are. They're actually organized. These other guys just get whatever, wherever

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bQ0SqifjNcg/Sxs4_sqWB4I/AAAAAAAAJs0/USlz4S7DHWw/s400/dennis-rodman-tattoos.jpg

[RedBlackAttack]

It's so punk ass b*tches like you behind me know what place they're coming in.
:no:

[pete's montreux]

Nah I don't have a tat. I had one drawn up but I didn't like it enough to spend the money.

[StateProperty]

Rodman's at least look clean and you can make out what they are. They're actually organized. These other guys just get whatever, wherever

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bQ0SqifjNcg/Sxs4_sqWB4I/AAAAAAAAJs0/USlz4S7DHWw/s400/dennis-rodman-tattoos.jpg
tattoos around a man's belly button look so...gay.

see: Tyrese

[FourthTenor]

Rodman's at least look clean and you can make out what they are. They're actually organized. These other guys just get whatever, wherever

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bQ0SqifjNcg/Sxs4_sqWB4I/AAAAAAAAJs0/USlz4S7DHWw/s400/dennis-rodman-tattoos.jpg


Yeah his look pretty good. Is this the extent of what he has though? I could swear I've seen him with more of the all-over coverage but maybe im just confusing my homeboys. Or maybe it just seems like theyre all over in the context of when hes wearin a jersey

[heyhey]

this is the worst tattoo I have ever seen tho

http://www.thfire.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/brock-lesnar.jpg

[B-Low]

it's just placed in a really dumb spot. He shoulda put it on his arm or something.

[FourthTenor]

it's just placed in a really dumb spot. He shoulda put it on his arm or something.


plus his physique is pale and saturated which makes it look even worse

[-playmaker-]

I can't explain why this is really, but I think tons of tats of ripped people looks bad in comparison really skinny dudes like Wiz and Travis and all that...Tommy Lee, etc...

my theory behind this is that a skinny person is more likely to actually live the "street-punk-ink" life than a gym rat, so it is more fitting...that is just my theory though...but if you are huge and ripped like Arnold in his prime that would look awful tatted out...

fat people like Rick Ross...that actually looks good on him I think...better than just looking at "fat skin"...

obviously those of fame have an easier time pulling this shit off cause we all know they have it made already and thier job type supports this kind of stuff...

[Crown&Coke]

tattoos around a man's belly button look so...gay.

see: Tyrese

Reggie Miller has one too, its like the PacSun symbol I think

[Crown&Coke]

It's so punk ass b*tches like you behind me know what place they're coming in.

:roll:

you totally set that up, right?

[pete's montreux]

:roll:

you totally set that up, right?

Yeah. :lol

[L.Kizzle]

Thank goodness I never fell for the tattoo craze.

[Maga_1]

I'm actually considering do one, but not something very fancy.

[L.Kizzle]

I'm actually considering do one, but not something very fancy.
U gonna get addicted.

[B-Low]

U gonna get addicted.

Yup my grandma went her whole life without getting one, then we went as a big group when the family went on vacation and everyone got something....now she's got 9 more since 2007 lol

[L.Kizzle]

Yup my grandma went her whole life without getting one, then we went as a big group when the family went on vacation and everyone got something....now she's got 9 more since 2007 lol
WHAT!

Granny a thug.

[Maga_1]

U gonna get addicted.

that's not cool. i just want something simple like number 12 or something else relative to my basketball experience.

[BRabbiT]

http://www.inkedcelebrity.com/souljaboy2.jpg


http://www.sportaphile.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/soulja-boy-lips-tattoo.jpg

[step_back]

U gonna get addicted.

Not sure why people say this. I had my tattoo done when I was 21 years old. Coming up 24 and I don't have any desire to get more. I'm content with what I have. If you have an addictive personality then I guess you might.

[OhNoTimNoSho]

Not just Hip Hop but basketball players too

New Monta Ellis tattoo

http://sports.cbsimg.net/images/visual/whatshot/monta-ellis-chest-tattoo.jpg
it looks like someone photoshopped a baby's head onto that tree

[Rake2204]

From a personal standpoint, I have virtually no chance of getting a tattoo at any point of my life. Essentially, I don't trust my own judgment. A handful of players I used to coach all got tattoos their senior year of high school or shortly thereafter. That got me thinking, if the 2002 (senior year) version of me had gotten inked up, it'd almost indisputably be something ridiculous that I'd be regretting this very moment. I was an idiot. It'd have been an ode to Deltron 3030 or my jersey number or something. So, knowing who I am and how often my mindset changes over time, I can't really think of any type of design or theme I'd be able to comfortably commit to for my entire life.

I do recall a former player in our program who had his late father tattooed on his shoulder, I respected that. One of that nature seems as if it'd last forever. But even then, I don't think that'd be me.

Switching things up a little bit, why do you guys believe our culture still seems to frown upon any sort of tattoos? I have a friend who was recently hired as a nurse and had to find a way to cover up a star tattoo on the top of her hand. Just a star. A big part of me says, "Hospitals are the real deal, they can take any steps they feel necessary to promote a feeling of professionalism throughout the complex." But clearly, hospitals aren't the only places with this rule. I feel as though tattoos are becoming more and more mainstream so is it your feeling they will only become more and more accepted in work environments and elsewhere over time?

Lastly, strange to hear Dennis Rodman brought up. I didn't even notice how accustomed we'd all grown to seeing super tatted players in the NBA. You're totally right, his abundance of tattoos made Rodman "edgy" and possibly crazy (of course, other characteristics played a role in that crazy claim, but the tats were a part of the deal). Back then, if you brought up Dennis Rodman to a random person, they'd say "Oh, that basketball player with all the tattoos." Now, if you say, "Hey, you know that basketball player with all those tattoos?" you could be referring to nearly everyone. I didn't even notice it'd grown at such a rapid rate.

[Thorpesaurous]

I have a shamrock on my shoulder, which I now regret, mostly because it's in color, and as I've gotten older, I'd like to have that spot to do a cap in black and grey. I do intend to get my other shoulder capped soon. I also have a pretty big back piece.

I'm not really a fan of places of employment asking that they be covered, particularly in a place like a hospital, where really, qualification should trump all else. It actually makes more sense to me in a perception type business, like sales or something.

It is odd how mainstream the visable tattoo has become. When I was a kid, if you saw someone with a sleeve or something in a grocery store, you'd stare at him, now it seems like there's maybe 1/10 guys with a sleeve and I don't even usually notice what it is.

[boozehound]

Rodman's at least look clean and you can make out what they are. They're actually organized. These other guys just get whatever, wherever

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_bQ0SqifjNcg/Sxs4_sqWB4I/AAAAAAAAJs0/USlz4S7DHWw/s400/dennis-rodman-tattoos.jpg
yeah, you know you got some ugly ass body art when rodman has you beat for clean lines and aesthetic display.

About the only large tattoos I like are various traditional ones, like this samoan style.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/99/Traditional_Samoan_Tattoo_-_back.jpg

[boozehound]

From a personal standpoint, I have virtually no chance of getting a tattoo at any point of my life. Essentially, I don't trust my own judgment. A handful of players I used to coach all got tattoos their senior year of high school or shortly thereafter. That got me thinking, if the 2002 (senior year) version of me had gotten inked up, it'd almost indisputably be something ridiculous that I'd be regretting this very moment. I was an idiot. It'd have been an ode to Deltron 3030 or my jersey number or something. So, knowing who I am and how often my mindset changes over time, I can't really think of any type of design or theme I'd be able to comfortably commit to for my entire life.

I do recall a former player in our program who had his late father tattooed on his shoulder, I respected that. One of that nature seems as if it'd last forever. But even then, I don't think that'd be me.

Switching things up a little bit, why do you guys believe our culture still seems to frown upon any sort of tattoos? I have a friend who was recently hired as a nurse and had to find a way to cover up a star tattoo on the top of her hand. Just a star. A big part of me says, "Hospitals are the real deal, they can take any steps they feel necessary to promote a feeling of professionalism throughout the complex." But clearly, hospitals aren't the only places with this rule. I feel as though tattoos are becoming more and more mainstream so is it your feeling they will only become more and more accepted in work environments and elsewhere over time?

Lastly, strange to hear Dennis Rodman brought up. I didn't even notice how accustomed we'd all grown to seeing super tatted players in the NBA. You're totally right, his abundance of tattoos made Rodman "edgy" and possibly crazy (of course, other characteristics played a role in that crazy claim, but the tats were a part of the deal). Back then, if you brought up Dennis Rodman to a random person, they'd say "Oh, that basketball player with all the tattoos." Now, if you say, "Hey, you know that basketball player with all those tattoos?" you could be referring to nearly everyone. I didn't even notice it'd grown at such a rapid rate.
well, part of it is about blood hygiene. If you have a tat, you cant donate blood most of the time. Not sure why they care about a nurses hand, but I guess you could see some roundabout ...., nah, not sure. its just not "professional".

[Thorpesaurous]

well, part of it is about blood hygiene. If you have a tat, you cant donate blood most of the time. Not sure why they care about a nurses hand, but I guess you could see some roundabout ...., nah, not sure. its just not "professional".


I donate blood every year and have never been turned down because of my tattoos. And I'm on the national marrow doner list too, which I also did after my first two were done.

[B-Low]

I'm not really a fan of places of employment asking that they be covered, particularly in a place like a hospital, where really, qualification should trump all else. It actually makes more sense to me in a perception type business, like sales or something.

My confusion was more with the fact that people are usually offended not by what it's a tattoo OF, but the actual tattoo itself. People don't even care what it's a tattoo of, they just see ink on someone and think it's classless and unprofessional.

My friend has "Beautiful Life" tattooed on her wrist because her baby almost died when he was younger but ended up pulling through. A customer at her job saw it and reported her to the manager and said "that girl's tattoo is showing and i find it offensive". How the hell can someone get offended by the words beautiful life?

[LT Ice Cream]

I don't mind all those rappers being covered in tattoos. I just think it seems kind of retarded that they all have money symbols or presidents or car logos.

[emsteez forreal]

it's funny to me that these random ass kids are getting tatted head to toe.

[step_back]

My confusion was more with the fact that people are usually offended not by what it's a tattoo OF, but the actual tattoo itself. People don't even care what it's a tattoo of, they just see ink on someone and think it's classless and unprofessional.

My friend has "Beautiful Life" tattooed on her wrist because her baby almost died when he was younger but ended up pulling through. A customer at her job saw it and reported her to the manager and said "that girl's tattoo is showing and i find it offensive". How the hell can someone get offended by the words beautiful life?

Customers like to complain. Chances are the woman didn't even read it.

Your mate has a great tattoo. That is the type tattoo that epitomes exactly what ink should be.

[JustinJDW]

Don't have a tattoo, and I'll most likely never get one. Just isn't my thing. Wouldn't know what the hell to put on my body anyway.

[Shep]

Customers like to complain. Chances are the woman didn't even read it.

Your mate has a great tattoo. That is the type tattoo that epitomes exactly what ink should be.
oh fk off with this. if you have a tattoo you should expect to cover it up while at work no matter what it says, nobody wants to see that shit. and who the **** are you to say what ink should be? why couldn't this ***** get "beautiful life" tattoo'd where nobody would see it? so nobody should get tattoo'd unless their baby dies or almost dies? fk off with this, people should get tattoo's if they want a ****in tattoo.

[step_back]

oh fk off with this. if you have a tattoo you should expect to cover it up while at work no matter what it says, nobody wants to see that shit. and who the **** are you to say what ink should be? why couldn't this ***** get "beautiful life" tattoo'd where nobody would see it? so nobody should get tattoo'd unless their baby dies or almost dies? fk off with this, people should get tattoo's if they want a ****in tattoo.

What are you ranting about?

You just contradicted yourself in the same post.:facepalm

[Shep]

What are you ranting about?

You just contradicted yourself in the same post.:facepalm
OMG MY BABY ALMOST DIED YAYY I AM NOW JUSTIFIED TO GET A KEWL TRENDY NEW TATTOO ON MY ****IN WRIST SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE!

:hammerhead:

[step_back]

OMG MY BABY ALMOST DIED YAYY I AM NOW JUSTIFIED TO GET A KEWL TRENDY NEW TATTOO ON MY ****IN WRIST SO EVERYBODY CAN SEE!

:hammerhead:

Again you didn't answer my question. You rant in the same post how you should have to cover up a tattoo and then you say people should be able to get a tattoo if they want one. So i'm guessing people have to run it by their manager to see if they can get one and then they can agree on a place to put it.....is that what your saying?

Are you also saying that personal input and meaning in a tattoo is wrong? Should it just be an arbitrary decision then?

Trying thinking next time shit for brains.

[Shep]

Again you didn't answer my question. You rant in the same post how you should have to cover up a tattoo and then you say people should be able to get a tattoo if they want one. So i'm guessing people have to run it by their manager to see if they can get one and then they can agree on a place to put it.....is that what your saying?
how am i contradicting myself. i am saying they should be able to get whatever they want, but they should expect to have to cover it up when they are working because nobody wants to see that shit. tattoo's should not be visable while you are working. surely its not that hard to understand.

Are you also saying that personal input and meaning in a tattoo is wrong? Should it just be an arbitrary decision then?
i'm not saying its wrong at all, i am saying that people who say stuff like this tattoo has more meaning than this tattoo therefore this person is justified to get a tattoo and this person is a douche because his has no meaning. c'mon, as if getting a name tattoo'd on your arm is going to make you love them more or make the event any more significant.

[step_back]

Finally you posted something worth replying to.

Firstly formal jobs require you to cover up a tattoo, however in the U.K you are discouraged from having them in areas which are in plain sight. Doing so could effect your employment (you can't be fired but you might upset your manager) But what right do they have over you anyway to dictate how you should look.

Second why do people have the right to not see it? If it isn't anything offensive then why have a problem with it? It doesn't do ANYTHING to them. It doesn't affect them in any physical or emotional way so why even bring it up in the first place?

Third I didn't say anything about a tattoo being any more justified because of having a personal meaning. I said that particular ink epitomes what ink should be about. Something personal regardless of it having any meaning or not. Personal can simply be an idea you came up with. Walking into a tattoo parlour and just picking something from the flash work will most of the time lead to a regret purchase.

Having a tattoo on your arm doesn't mean the whole event or person is that much more significant then anyone else. It does mean it's a more significant experience in the individuals life. Seems like you think it's only to show other people, when actually most of the time it acts as a message to oneself.

[JtotheIzzo]

http://www.howflyhiphop.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/rick-ross-vibe-cover.jpg



the f*ck??? :roll:

Rick Ross got some tatted up b*tch ass National Geographic African Booty Scratcher t*ts goin on.

:roll:

Shave the beard and remove the tats and he looks like Kamala's wife.

F*ckin hell, can't believe that brown Pilsbury Doughboy raps like he is tough.

[Sterlingsucks]

the f*ck??? :roll:

Rick Ross got some tatted up b*tch ass National Geographic African Booty Scratcher t*ts goin on.

:roll:

Shave the beard and remove the tats and he looks like Kamala's wife.

F*ckin hell, can't believe that brown Pilsbury Doughboy raps like he is tough.

:roll:

[D.J.]

Rick Ross = :facepalm

[Rowe]

My only problem is dudes like Lil Wayne making people think its "cool" to get tats on your face.

Tyson did it first and it was a joke in the Hip Hop community and in every community for that matter.

Nowadays you got people getting tats under their eyes & on their foreheads right below their hairline.

What the **** are they thinking?

Nobody is going to hire you with "Get Money ****** ENT" tatted on your forehead.

Nobody is going to hire you with a cross right below your right eye.

I have 0 problem with people inking up their bodies, but dont tat your face.

[step_back]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01255/SNF21TATT2-180_1255589a.jpg

Yep, that's real.:facepalm

[ROCSteady]

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01255/SNF21TATT2-180_1255589a.jpg

Yep, that's real.:facepalm

Only someone with his bone structure could pull that look off...:rockon:

[Ramiah]

http://www.inkedcelebrity.com/souljaboy2.jpg


http://www.sportaphile.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/soulja-boy-lips-tattoo.jpg
What does this mean? i don't get this kind of tattoo....i never did

[-playmaker-]

What does this mean? i don't get this kind of tattoo....i never did
lipstick mark...like a woman just kissed him on the neck

could be the actual lip mark of his woman, Tommy Lee did that

http://stereogum.com/img/tommylee_kidpebble.jpg

[AKADS]

I have a 3/4 sleeve. Doing another 3/4 and a back peice to cover my entire back this winter. Want a chest peice after that.

Also have a piece on my wrist and small ones on my back and chest already. Hoping to be finished my upper body within 2 years.

[step_back]

I have a 3/4 sleeve. Doing another 3/4 and a back peice to cover my entire back this winter. Want a chest peice after that.

Also have a piece on my wrist and small ones on my back and chest already. Hoping to be finished my upper body within 2 years.

That's a lot of Ink. What design is your sleeve?

[Done_And_Done]

saw that on PTI, the baby's head creeps me out

Lol foreal though...
It looks as though he had one specific artist do every tat on him and then he randomly decided to switch it up and get somebody less talented to draw up that demonic looking face...

[greensmoke21]

im thinking about getting a tattoo of california but im not sure yet

[B-Low]

I have a 3/4 sleeve. Doing another 3/4 and a back peice to cover my entire back this winter. Want a chest peice after that.

Also have a piece on my wrist and small ones on my back and chest already. Hoping to be finished my upper body within 2 years.

got any pics of the sleeve? what is it?