True height of NBA players

[The_LA_Blakers]

We all know the height of a lot of NBA players are inflated.


If JJ Berea is 6', then i'm 7'.


But, there are some guys who are taller than they're listed.


I bet Shaq is 7'2 with shoes on (and I could care less what someone is barefoot, you don't play basketball without shoes!). I remember seeing Shaq next to Zo when he played in Miami and absolutely dwarfed ZO who is 6'10.

Durant is another one who is taller than his listed 6'9. He was 6'10 at the combine and is atleast an inch or 2 taller.


Steve Nash wishes he was 6'4. He's more like 6'

I wonder if Kidd is 6'4 like he's listed. Looks 6'2 to me.


Anyone been up close with an NBA player and thought they were shorter or taller than their listed Height?

[KG215]

Steve Nash is listed at 6'3" but, still, I don't even think that's right. He's one of two NBA players I've ever been somewhat close enough to so I could judge their height. I'm a bit over 6'4" in shoes and Nash wasn't 6'3". He looked closer to 6'1" or maybe 6'2" in shoes.

This is a lesser known player but Sonny Weems is listed at 6'6" when he's closer to a true 6'4" or 6'5". I actually stood back-to-back with him to compare heights and we are virtually the exact same height.

[Cangri]

They add like 2"-3" to players height. Barea is like 5-9 or 5-10 at best.

[BarberSchool]

Steve Kerr is listed at 6'4, and I'm noticable taller than him in person.
But Craig Hodges was listed at 6'2", and he actually seemed about the same height as Kerr.

Basically, it's a shoes on measurement, and then they round up. Carmelo is actually only 6-6.75" without shoes. Beasley is just under 6'8" without shoes, Dwight Howard is exactly 6'9" without shoes.

The league has always done this a bit I think, but more so since the 80's....

[The_LA_Blakers]

Steve Nash is listed at 6'3" but, still, I don't even think that's right. He's one of two NBA players I've ever been somewhat close enough to so I could judge their height. I'm a bit over 6'4" in shoes and Nash wasn't 6'3". He looked closer to 6'1" or maybe 6'2" in shoes.

This is a lesser known player but Sonny Weems is listed at 6'6" when he's closer to a true 6'4" or 6'5". I actually stood back-to-back with him to compare heights and we are virtually the exact same height.


True on the Nash part.


Where would you stand back to back with Weems??

[The_LA_Blakers]

Steve Kerr is listed at 6'4, and I'm noticable taller than him in person. Basically, it's a shoes on measurement, and then they round up. Carmelo is actually only 6-6.75" without shoes. Beasley is just under 6'8" without shoes, Dwight Howard is exactly 6'9" without shoes.

The league has always done this a bit I think, but more so since the 80's....


They should be measures in shoes, that's what they play in.


I'd love to see shaq measured and weighed. Dude has to be bigger than listed in both height and weight.

I guarantee he is atleast 7'2 and 350. Easy. He makes Dwight Howard look like a little kid. Literally.

[boozehound]

They add like 2"-3" to players height. Barea is like 5-9 or 5-10 at best.
except in some cases. supposedly sheed is a full 7' in shoes, but didnt want to have the big stiff stigma.

[The_LA_Blakers]

except in some cases. supposedly sheed is a full 7' in shoes, but didnt want to have the big stiff stigma.



I heard the same about Bill Walton. He wanted nothing to do with being a 7 footer. I guess he'd get really mad if you said he was 7'.

[Round Mound]

Barkley and MJ listed at 6`6 but in reality both 6`4 3/4 (real 6`6ers where Mark Aguirre and Thunder Dan)

Wade is about 6`2 3/4 in reality

Dennis Rodman is really about 6`6 3/4

Pippen is closer to 6`7 3/4 or 6`8 than 6`7

Magic is closer to 6`7 3/4 or 6`8 than 6`9

[KG215]

True on the Nash part.


Where would you stand back to back with Weems??

We used to hangout when he was at UAFS -- the JUCO he played for before going to Arkansas. I went there for a couple of years while h was there. and played pick-up with the team and hungout with them some.

We were just hanging out in the apartment of some of the guys on the team and he told me to come here. I guess he had just realized I was tall because he said "damn, you tall" and told me to stand back-to-back with him. Kind of a weird story but it can get really boring on a weeknight in a really small boring college town.

[OmniStrife]

In b4 Joyner claiming Durant is 7'3

[HEAT111]

If Wade is 6'4 then with his shoes he's a bit taller, maybe 6'5.

[DMAVS41]

They measure with shoes on now.

So you can subtract a little over an inch off of each player.

[HEAT111]

They measure with shoes on now.

So you can subtract a little over an inch off of each player.


Aww...that sucks :lol

[Euroleague]

I've seen John Wall in person before. He is listed at 6-4 but he is max 6-0 to 6-1.

[Euroleague]

Steve Kerr is listed at 6'4, and I'm noticable taller than him in person.
But Craig Hodges was listed at 6'2", and he actually seemed about the same height as Kerr.

Basically, it's a shoes on measurement, and then they round up. Carmelo is actually only 6-6.75" without shoes. Beasley is just under 6'8" without shoes, Dwight Howard is exactly 6'9" without shoes.

The league has always done this a bit I think, but more so since the 80's....

Steve Kerr was listed at 6-1, not 6-4.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/steve_kerr/

[The_LA_Blakers]

We used to hangout when he was at UAFS -- the JUCO he played for before going to Arkansas. I went there for a couple of years while h was there. and played pick-up with the team and hungout with them some.

We were just hanging out in the apartment of some of the guys on the team and he told me to come here. I guess he had just realized I was tall because he said "damn, you tall" and told me to stand back-to-back with him. Kind of a weird story but it can get really boring on a weeknight in a really small boring college town.



That's cool man. How good was Weems in a pick-up game? Did he pwn everyone?


I've never so much as seen an NBA player outside of a game, let alone played pick-up with one. There are those rare times where there are blu-chip guys at summer tournaments in HS. I have a buddy who's 6'10, and basically the tallest BBall player around from our small community. He went to play small D1 ball, and got dunked on by Larry Hughes.

I always thought it would be sweet to get an NBA player to play on my YMCA team and just pwn everybody and I'd have like 20 wide open shots a game.

Way off subject, but me and my buddies always try to think of what #10 or #11 guy in the NBA we'd take for our summer-league team.

This guy is my favorite!

http://www.pyleoflist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/scalabrine11.jpg

[JohnnySic]

Non-shoe height:

Nate Robinson listed 5'9" real more like 5'6"
Big Baby l 6'9" r 6'7" at best
Perkins l 6'11" r 6'8.5"
Beasley l 6'10" r 6'7"
Howard l 6'11" r 6'9"


Shaq is a legit 7'1" though. He's almost as tall as Big Z

[step_back]

Allen Iverson is more like 5'10 then 6

Amar'e is more like 6'8 then 6'10

[madmax]

Some other heights of players:

Z is 7'2" barefeet, 7'3" in shoes
Lebron is 6'8" barefeet, 6'9" in shoes
Dirk in reality is 6'11" barefeet, 7'0 in shoes
Durant was measured 6'9" barefeet in Olympics, so the claims of him being a "7 footer" are completely out of the ass. He just looks very long due to his skinny limbs

[Grinder]

Some other heights of players:

Z is 7'2" barefeet, 7'3" in shoes
Lebron is 6'8" barefeet, 6'9" in shoes
Dirk in reality is 6'11" barefeet, 7'0 in shoes
Durant was measured 6'9" barefeet in Olympics, so the claims of him being a "7 footer" are completely out of the ass. He just looks very long due to his skinny limbs

Nope, 6'7.25" in barefoot and 6'8" in shoes.

[madmax]

Nope, 6'7.25" in barefoot and 6'8" in shoes.

that was Lebron's height as an 18 year old teenager...I'm pretty sure he's grown up at least an inch since then:cheers:

[Soothing Layup]

How tall is Yao?
How tall is Durant?
How tall is LBJ?

[Sterlingsucks]

Jason Kidd is a legit 6-3, 6-4 in shoes. and I agree with the whole shaq height....dude is atleast 7-0 I remember seeing him at a Warriors game leaning down and resting his arm on mitch richmon who was 6-5 like dude was 5 feet tall...shaw was a monster ! Tyson Chandler is a legit 7 footer too...played H.S ball against him. I would like to know how tall Blake Griffin is though...he was 6-8 coming out of HS and same with Eric Gordon...he was 6-2 going into indiana

[KG215]

That's cool man. How good was Weems in a pick-up game? Did he pwn everyone?


I've never so much as seen an NBA player outside of a game, let alone played pick-up with one. There are those rare times where their are blu-chip guys at summer tournaments in HS. I have a buddy who's 6'10, and basically the tallest BBall player around from our small community. He went to play small D1 ball, and got dunked on by Larry Hughes.

I always thought it would be sweet to get an NBA player to play on my YMCA team and just pwn everybody and I'd have like 20 wide open shots a game.

Way off subject, but me and my buddies always try to think of what #10 or #11 guy in the NBA we'd take for our summer-league team.

This guy is my favorite!

http://www.pyleoflist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/scalabrine11.jpg

No, he didn't really own everyone. I mean he was always clearly the best player on the court and would take over a game whenever he wanted. But usually it wasn't pick-up with a bunch of scrubs. I was the only real scrub and the rest of the guys were on the team. They were JUCO national champs that year and had 6 or 7 other guys (other than Sonny) go on to play D1 ball somewhere.

Sonny wasn't recruited very heavily out of high school at all. His team won a state championship as a senior but he wasn't even considered the best player on that team. He didn't even make the Arkansas High School All-Star Game played every year in June which is pretty incredible when you think about it. Arkansas isn't exactly bursting at the seams with high level basketball talent. On a really good year there might be 5-8 D1 signees from a given senior class. He went to UAFS, though, and blew up. He started getting recruited heavily by Memphis, Tennessee, Oklahoma and Arkansas.

[mcrd101]

Allen Iverson is more like 5'10 then 6

Amar'e is more like 6'8 then 6'10

Iverson 5'10 :eek: and he can have sick dunks

[alenleomessi]

I've seen John Wall in person before. He is listed at 6-4 but he is max 6-0 to 6-1.
:roll:

[jlauber]

Interesting that most all of today's players are actually SHORTER than their listed height (mainly because of the shoe measurement), and yet a number of players in the 60's and 70's were actually TALLER than their listed height, even when measured in barefeet.

For some reason, Bill Russell was listed at 6-9, despite being listed at 6-10 in college...AND, he himself, claiming to be 6-10. Wilt swore he was barely over 7-1, but those that actually knew him claimed he was at LEAST 7-2 (I have seen as tall as 7-4 BTW.) And Wilt was noticeably taller than the 7-2 Gilmore in their H2H play in the '72 ABA-NBA all-star game. And Kareem was listed at 7-2, despite being as taller, if not taller, than Ralph Sampson, who was listed at 7-4. Kareem was about an inch taller than Chamberlain, BTW, but Wilt had a longer wingspan (in fact, reportedly, so did Russell.) Chamberlain's wingspan was officially measured at 7-8. Elvin Hayes was listed at 6-8 in college, and was measured at 6-9 1/2 before the NBA draft. And Bill Waton was always listed at 6-11 despite probably being over 7-0.

I can't recall where I read it now, but supposedly Larry Bird was shocked when 7-3 Rik Smits (or 7-4 as he was sometimes listed) was no taller than the 7-1 Shaq, when they lined up in the '00 Finals. Not sure if Shaq was taller than 7-1, or if Smits was shorter than 7-3, though.

Of course, it is now well-known that players from the 60's and 70's would be at least an inch taller than their height back then, just because they would be measured in shoes. Suddenly, the centers of that decade look considerably taller than what they have been given credit for. Walt Bellamy would have been over 7-0, and Nate Thurmond, who had a higher reach than Wilt, would also have been over 7-0. Seven-footers like Boerwinkle, Counts, Finkle, and Dukes would have been at least 7-1. And then 7-3 Swede Holbrook who was a college star, but nothing more than a bench-warmer in the NBA, would have been at least 7-4. BTW, in college, he had another 7-0 teammates who played forward, and Russell dominated them both in the NCAA tournament. Just food for thought for the idiots who claimed that guys like Wilt and Russell played against 6-6 white centers in the 60's.

[RedBlackAttack]

Steve Nash is listed at 6'3" but, still, I don't even think that's right. He's one of two NBA players I've ever been somewhat close enough to so I could judge their height. I'm a bit over 6'4" in shoes and Nash wasn't 6'3". He looked closer to 6'1" or maybe 6'2" in shoes.

This is a lesser known player but Sonny Weems is listed at 6'6" when he's closer to a true 6'4" or 6'5". I actually stood back-to-back with him to compare heights and we are virtually the exact same height.
Nash was measured at the combine as 6-foot-1 without shoes. He wasn't measured there with shoes on and all official NBA height listings are with shoes. So, it was probably up to the Suns' organization to get his official numbers, meaning they may be a little fudged.

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Steve-Nash-3719/

Weems was measured at the combine as 6'4" without shoes and 6'5.5" with shoes... Teams round up or down for official heights, so that is why he is listed at 6-foot-6.

[OldSchoolBBall]

Steve Kerr is listed at 6'4, and I'm noticable taller than him in person.
But Craig Hodges was listed at 6'2", and he actually seemed about the same height as Kerr.

Basically, it's a shoes on measurement, and then they round up. Carmelo is actually only 6-6.75" without shoes. Beasley is just under 6'8" without shoes, Dwight Howard is exactly 6'9" without shoes.

The league has always done this a bit I think, but more so since the 80's....

Kerr is listed at 6'3", not 6'4". He doesn't look a full 6'3" either, though - more like 6'2.5".

[OldSchoolBBall]

Allen Iverson is more like 5'10 then 6

Amar'e is more like 6'8 then 6'10

Amare is like 6'8.5" or so. Seen him and spoke with him briefly with some friends in a club on Thanksgiving Eve.

[G.O.A.T]

except in some cases. supposedly sheed is a full 7' in shoes, but didnt want to have the big stiff stigma.

I'm convinced that Walton and Kareem were each at least two inches taller than they were listed.

Walton still looked to be over 7' tall when I met him just 12 years ago.

Having seen Kareem and Manute Bol stand side by side and seeing a barely noticeable difference, I believe Kareem to have been about 7'5"

Garnett is over 7' tall and always has been listed at 6'11"

I also believe, though never saw him close enough to be sure, that Wilt was a good 7'2" or 7'3". He dwarfs even the legit 7' guys from his era.

[webberz0044]

I'd be surprised if Blake Griffin is 6'10" with shoes on.

[G-train]

Everyone should be weighe and measured independantly barefoot and in underwear by league at training camp every season and listed as such on nba.com.

[jlauber]

I'm convinced that Walton and Kareem were each at least two inches taller than they were listed.

Walton still looked to be over 7' tall when I met him just 12 years ago.

Having seen Kareem and Manute Bol stand side by side and seeing a barely noticeable difference, I believe Kareem to have been about 7'5"

Garnett is over 7' tall and always has been listed at 6'11"

I also believe, though never saw him close enough to be sure, that Wilt was a good 7'2" or 7'3". He dwarfs even the legit 7' guys from his era.

I think that, at a minimum, and measuring in shoes, that Wilt would have been listed at 7-3 and Kareem at 7-4 in today's NBA. And those are conservative estimates.

[jlauber]

I think an interesting comparison would have been a 6-10 (barefoot) world-class leaper with an enormous wing-span, in Russell, ...and 6-11 (in shoes), Dwight Howard.

[Soothing Layup]

Yao ming is really 7'7

[raiderfan19]

Some other heights of players:

Z is 7'2" barefeet, 7'3" in shoes
Lebron is 6'8" barefeet, 6'9" in shoes
Dirk in reality is 6'11" barefeet, 7'0 in shoes
Durant was measured 6'9" barefeet in Olympics, so the claims of him being a "7 footer" are completely out of the ass. He just looks very long due to his skinny limbs
Dirk might have been 6-11 when he was 19 and was measured for the combine but he is easily over 7 foot now.

[lefthook00]

Dirk was a good 2"(maybe more) taller than Durant when they were face to face talking to each other after Dallas won the series tonight.

[ShaqAttack3234]

Iverson 5'10 :eek: and he can have sick dunks

No, Iverson is about 6 feet, he's definitely taller than guys like Jameer Nelson and JJ Barea, who are listed at 6 feet, but definitely look shorter than AI, but iirc, someone on this message board knows Jameer and says he's close to his NBA listing.

As far as Durant, pretty sure I saw an interview from training camp where he said he was 6'9.5" w/o shoes and around 6'11" with them.

[Pinkhearts]

They should be measures in shoes, that's what they play in.


I'd love to see shaq measured and weighed. Dude has to be bigger than listed in both height and weight.

I guarantee he is atleast 7'2 and 350. Easy. He makes Dwight Howard look like a little kid. Literally.

Except people wear different shoes for the combine than when they play...

[JohnnySic]

I'm convinced that Walton and Kareem were each at least two inches taller than they were listed.

Walton still looked to be over 7' tall when I met him just 12 years ago.

Having seen Kareem and Manute Bol stand side by side and seeing a barely noticeable difference, I believe Kareem to have been about 7'5"

Garnett is over 7' tall and always has been listed at 6'11"

I also believe, though never saw him close enough to be sure, that Wilt was a good 7'2" or 7'3". He dwarfs even the legit 7' guys from his era.
While I agree that heights fro prior eras can be understated, we're going a little too far here.

Kareem was about a legit 7'2", maybe a fraction over, about Big Z's height. But 7'5" is crazy.

Wilt was a legit 7'+ and could be listed at 7'2" in today's league.

Garnett is just shy of 7'; Shaq has at least 1.5" on him.

Walton is 7'.

[G.O.A.T]

While I agree that heights fro prior eras can be understated, we're going a little too far here.

Kareem was about a legit 7'2", maybe a fraction over, about Big Z's height. But 7'5" is crazy.

Wilt was a legit 7'+ and could be listed at 7'2" in today's league.

Garnett is just shy of 7'; Shaq has at least 1.5" on him.

Walton is 7'.

What do you know that I don't?

What's crazy about Kareem being 7'5"? I literally stood 20 feet from him and Manute Bol standing on a basketball court and he did not look noticeably shorter. Combine that with several players who say he was definitely taller than his listed 7'2" and I think it's a pretty close estimation.

Garnett's over 7", Shaq's probably a legit 7'1 without shoes. And nobody looks bigger than him, not even Yao.

[Scoooter]

No matter how big you are, you don't look bigger than Shaq.

[PistonsFan#21]

What do you know that I don't?

What's crazy about Kareem being 7'5"? I literally stood 20 feet from him and Manute Bol standing on a basketball court and he did not look noticeably shorter. Combine that with several players who say he was definitely taller than his listed 7'2" and I think it's a pretty close estimation.

Garnett's over 7", Shaq's probably a legit 7'1 without shoes. And nobody looks bigger than him, not even Yao.

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/BynumKareem.jpg

http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg34/NBA7902/NBA%20Height%20Comparison/DrewKareem.jpg

I guess Bynum is about 7'5'' too :hammerhead:

[The_LA_Blakers]

Some other heights of players:

Z is 7'2" barefeet, 7'3" in shoes
Lebron is 6'8" barefeet, 6'9" in shoes
Dirk in reality is 6'11" barefeet, 7'0 in shoes
Durant was measured 6'9" barefeet in Olympics, so the claims of him being a "7 footer" are completely out of the ass. He just looks very long due to his skinny limbs



First off, where's the link for Olympic measurements?


Second, that was 3 years ago, Bra, and Durant easily could have grown since then. If he's grown atleast an inch since then, that means he's 6'11 in shoes, if not more.

Dude is still young.


He was 6'10 1/4 with shoes on at the age of 19. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he grew another inch and 3/4 over the last 4 years to be 7' with shoes on. If not, I'd say he's atleast 6'11 with shoes on.

No one cares what you are barefoot, you don;t play basketball barefoot!

[DuMa]

brandon roy is shorter than he was a few years ago.

[Euroleague]

How tall is Yao?
How tall is Durant?
How tall is LBJ?

Per FIBA and the Chinese national team, Yao is 2.28 meters barefoot. That means he is 7-5 3/4 barefoot.

[Euroleague]

:roll:

He is MAX 6-1. I've seen him in person.

[Euroleague]

Kerr is listed at 6'3", not 6'4". He doesn't look a full 6'3" either, though - more like 6'2.5".

No. Kerr was listed at 6-1.

http://www.nba.com/playerfile/steve_kerr/

[Euroleague]

First off, where's the link for Olympic measurements?


Second, that was 3 years ago, Bra, and Durant easily could have grown since then. If he's grown atleast an inch since then, that means he's 6'11 in shoes, if not more.

Dude is still young.


He was 6'10 1/4 with shoes on at the age of 19. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he grew another inch and 3/4 over the last 4 years to be 7' with shoes on. If not, I'd say he's atleast 6'11 with shoes on.

No one cares what you are barefoot, you don;t play basketball barefoot!

No way in hell is Durant anything over 6-10 in shoes.

[PistonsFan#21]

He is MAX 6-1. I've seen him in person.

You're an idiot if you actually think John Wall is not taller than 6'1''

[LJJ]

I guess Bynum is about 7'5'' too :hammerhead:


Bynum was over 7'0 barefoot as an 18yo rookie, he's a bit taller now obviously.

Reem looks noticably taller in the pictures you posted and he's well into his sixties. Not unthinkable he was 7'4-7'5 as a young man.

[The_LA_Blakers]

No way in hell is Durant anything over 6-10 in shoes.


He was over 6'10 in shoes at his NBA draft combine in 2007, Bra.


Sorry.

[Euroleague]

You're an idiot if you actually think John Wall is not taller than 6'1''

I've seen him in person. I'm 6-2 barefoot and I was noticeably taller than he is.

[Euroleague]

He was over 6'10 in shoes at his NBA draft combine in 2007, Bra.


Sorry.

Draft measurements are taken when players backs are expanded - adding 3/4 to 1 1/4 inches of height to their actual heights.

This is common knowledge. I guess you never played basketball at any level, because even in junior high they do it that way to inflate the real heights. Anyone that thinks Durant is over 6-10 in shoes is delusional.

[PistonsFan#21]

I've seen him in person. I'm 6-2 barefoot and I was noticeably taller than he is.


So Derrick Rose and Russell Westbrook are both only 6 feet tall? :rolleyes:

[The_LA_Blakers]

Draft measurements are taken when players backs are expanded - adding 3/4 to 1 1/4 inches of height to their actual heights.

This is common knowledge. I guess you never played basketball at any level, because even in junior high they do it that way to inflate the real heights. Anyone that thinks Durant is over 6-10 in shoes is delusional.


Oh, then you're saying every NBA player that's been through the combine is an inch and 1/4 shorter than their listed height.


Nice try, bra. Durant is at the least 6'10 1/4 in shoes, but his teammates say 6'11 approaching 7'.

[PistonsFan#21]

Bynum was over 7'0 barefoot as an 18yo rookie, he's a bit taller now obviously.

Reem looks noticably taller in the pictures you posted and he's well into his sixties. Not unthinkable he was 7'4-7'5 as a young man.

Bynum is not even taller than Shaq now and if hes smaller than Kareem on those pics its by not more than half an inch max.

Kareem was 7'3'' at most but he wasnt 7'5'' like Yao Ming