Any League That Has Derrick Rose As Its MVP Is Trash

[Euroleague]

Let's get real here. Any league that has Derrick Rose as its MVP is a POS.

He is just a ball hogging, chucking, trigger happy, bad shooting, turnover machine.

Any league that would have him as its MVP is a seriously weak and pathetic league. Watching this "MVP" play is such a joke.

[Crown&Coke]

MVP stands for Most Valuable Player

You take Rose off that team and they win 45 games instead of 60 or whatever it was. That is the definition of MVP

Anyone hating on Rose is just a hater

[GreatHILL]

marbury part 2 nothing less

[The Judge]

The NBA really should have waited to give it to him. 3 years in isn't enough time to determine if he deserves one.

If he really deserved one, he would get it anyway.

[LebronGOAT]

MVP stands for Most Valuable Player

You take Rose off that team and they win 45 games instead of 60 or whatever it was. That is the definition of MVP

Anyone hating on Rose is just a hater

Bulls:

Offense: 17th ranked
Defense: 1st
Rebounding: 1st

Take Rose off of that team and there is a small dropoff. They win because their rebounding and defense, not because of their mediocre offense. They would still be number 1 in defense and rebounding without Rose.

[Sterlingsucks]

The NBA really should have waited to give it to him. 3 years in isn't enough time to determine if he deserves one.

If he really deserved one, he would get it anyway.

What sense does that make? If he wsa the regular season MVP then he deserved it..

[Dave3]

The NBA really should have waited to give it to him. 3 years in isn't enough time to determine if he deserves one.

If he really deserved one, he would get it anyway.
I hate this type of thinking. It takes one year to win the MVP. It doesn't take 4 or 5 years to deserve it. If you're the MVP that year, you're the MVP. It's not a lifetime achievement award, or something you earn. I saw a post a while back that showed how many players got MVPs in their first 3 or 4 years, before the league waited for them to "deserve" it, and all of them eventually became great players. Rose has a lot of work ahead of him to become a great player, but that doesn't change the fact that this year, he was the MVP...

[Crown&Coke]

Bulls:

Offense: 17th ranked
Defense: 1st
Rebounding: 1st

Take Rose off of that team and there is a small dropoff. They win because their rebounding and defense, not because of their mediocre offense. They would still be number 1 in defense and rebounding without Rose.

But you cant win 60 games without putting the ball in the bucket.

Rose is their halfcourt offense, he is their fastbreak offense, he is their late game offense.

It don't matter if Chicago gave up 80ppg if they only score 70ppg, that chalks up to a loss

[Soothing Layup]

I totally agree.. I mean who would of thought a team with Chris bosh, LBJ, and Dwade on it would be able to beat this bulls team. you ****ing joke

Any league that allows 2 top 5 players and 1 top 15 player on the same team is ****ing BS, this thread is shit

[madmax]

one of the rare instances when I agree with this Euroleague poster...this Rose dude was seriously overestimated during the regular season. Hell, he didn't even have TOP 5 individual numbers in the league, yet he was praised like a new coming of MJ in the media. Talk about creating hype and blowing it out of proportions...

[kaiiu]

Hes not a good MVP. But its not his fault he cant beat this STACKED Superteam. :confusedshrug:

[Positive]

Weren't Juan Carlos Navarro and Anthony Parker MVPs of the Euroleague?

[GOBB]

one of the rare instances when I agree with this Euroleague poster...this Rose dude was seriously overestimated during the regular season. Hell, he didn't even have TOP 5 individual numbers in the league, yet he was praised like a new coming of MJ in the media. Talk about creating hype and blowing it out of proportions...

How can you agree with him when his point differs from yours?

So you agree that any league that has Rose as MVP = trash + weak + pathetic?

So you agree that Rose is a ball hogging chucker?

If you say "no" then how is this a time where you agree with him?

Or is there something about europeans where they can decipher each others actual message.

"This hot dog sucks bals!"

Translation: The hot sausage with saurkraut, relish, mustard, ketchup is a nice choice of weapon, but adding cheese wiz to it makes it a total disaster.

[tazb]

Believe me its far beyond your soft, flopping euroleague

[LebronGOAT]

But you cant win 60 games without putting the ball in the bucket.

Rose is their halfcourt offense, he is their fastbreak offense, he is their late game offense.

It don't matter if Chicago gave up 80ppg if they only score 70ppg, that chalks up to a loss

Anyone can chuck up 20 shots and score 25 points like Rose did. YOu can just force feed Boozer and get the same thing.

If Chicago ran a real offense they could have a decent offense without ball stopping Rose.

The defense and rebounding is the reason they win period. Let's not try to act like Rose is carrying them, he is not. The defense and rebounding is carrying them. They actually improve on offense when Rose goes to the bench.

[creepingdeath]

Sounds interesting. Got a link to back up your opinion?
http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/8485/ishg.jpg

[madmax]

How can you agree with him when his point differs from yours?

So you agree that any league that has Rose as MVP = trash + weak + pathetic?

So you agree that Rose is a ball hogging chucker?

If you say "no" then how is this a time where you agree with him?

Or is there something about europeans where they can decipher each others actual message.

"This hot dog sucks bals!"

Translation: The hot sausage with saurkraut, relish, mustard, ketchup is a nice choice of weapon, but adding cheese wiz to it makes it a total disaster.

I don't necessarily agree about the "trash" thing, but NBA for a long time has been more about the hype than the substance league. Nobody or very rarely anyone plays defense in the regular season, so all the superstars numbers are heavily inflated. All of the superstar treatment, no travel calls are really ruining it's credibility. Lebron is my all time favorite player, yet even I can see that he travels a lot and gets away with it most of the time. Just like any other superstar in this league. So yes, in an essence you can say that this league is quite overrated and overhyped

[NOHCP3]

Regular season award. He has had his shortcomings in the playoffs but he deserved to be MVP because of his performance during the year.

[Maga_1]

Believe me its far beyond your soft, flopping euroleague

soft .. right !

[ace23]

Let's get real here. Any league that has Derrick Rose as its MVP is a POS.

He is just a ball hogging, chucking, trigger happy, bad shooting, turnover machine.

Any league that would have him as its MVP is a seriously weak and pathetic league. Watching this "MVP" play is such a joke.
Haters gon' hate.

[reppy]

Every year someone is wiping their tears on the jersey of their favorite player and crying about how this year's MVP is the worst. ever.

[Orlando Magic]

Every year someone is wiping their tears on the jersey of their favorite player and crying about how this year's MVP is the worst. ever.

Not true. But it is a rather recent trend.

2001 2005 2006 2007 and 2011 are probably the worst MVP selections ever. The voters have just gotten dumber... and flat out bad. It's just that simple.

[DMAVS41]

Not true. But it is a rather recent trend.

2001 2005 2006 2007 and 2011 are probably the worst MVP selections ever. The voters have just gotten dumber... and flat out bad. It's just that simple.

MVP does not mean best player.

Who deserved it over Dirk in 07?

[Orlando Magic]

MVP does not mean best player.

Who deserved it over Dirk in 07?

Every single guy on that list up until 2001 had a legit case for best player in the league (or at least debatable).

Since 2001 that has not always been the case.

To say the award hasn't changed on the whim of the voters from year to year is disingenuous at best.

To answer your question... LeBron. Easily. EASILY.

Just because the Mavericks won 67 games does not mean he was more valuable than anyone else that year. It just means the damn Mavericks were a good regular season team. Unless a player's team misses the playoffs, win total should not be a factor when determining the top INDIVIDUAL award in the entire ****ing sport.

Dirk hasn't even come close to being on a team that sniffed 67 wins since then nor prior to. It wasn't a year that he simply impacted the game more... because he's had better years... multiple.

The award has been INDISPUTABLY bogus ever since Shaq was passed up for Iverson in 2001 simply because Shaq played with Kobe.

[Doranku]

It's just a testament to how meaningless the award has become. It has nothing to do with the league or the players in it.

[tomtucker]

Let's get real here. Any league that has Derrick Rose as its MVP is a POS.

He is just a ball hogging, chucking, trigger happy, bad shooting, turnover machine.

Any league that would have him as its MVP is a seriously weak and pathetic league. Watching this "MVP" play is such a joke.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHuYek-firs&feature=related

Turn your speaker volume to maximun setting


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[Heat007]

But you cant win 60 games without putting the ball in the bucket.

Rose is their halfcourt offense, he is their fastbreak offense, he is their late game offense.

It don't matter if Chicago gave up 80ppg if they only score 70ppg, that chalks up to a loss

In Rose's 15 worst games this year the Bulls have the same record as Rose's best 15 games.

However, when teams are close to the Bulls in rebounding differential, or when they slightly outrebound the Bulls, the Bulls have a sub- .500 record this year.

IE- Heat outrebound the Bulls in games 2 and 4 and win.. in game 3 the bulls outrebounded the heat but in the 2nd half when it mattered the rebounding was the same (with an edge to the Heat in the 4th quarter when the game was decided).

The bulls won with their defense and elite rebounding in the regular season (along with outworking teams with their hustle). They don't win games without all those 2nd chance points they get from rebounding from their horrible shooting as a team, and they don't win without limiting other teams from getting 2nd chance points via their rebounding on the defensive end as well

They won by limiting teams from getting 2nd chance on the defensive end. And getting 2nd chance rebounding pts on the offensive end.. All by their rebounding (hustle). Derrick Rose had nothing to do with their rebounding or defense as Rose is very mediocre at both aspects of the game

If Rose was on an average rebounding team he would have never been considered for MVP.

That's the truth

[Jon_Koncak]

Nba's mvp went head to head against euroleague mvp in a friendly in Athens last summer.Euroleague mvp could hardly stay in front of him,euroleague mvp finished with 1 point on 0/4 fgs and 8 turnovers:lol ,nba mvp had 13 points on 6/7 fgs.k thanx bye

[Orlando Magic]

:roll:

karl malone in 1997 was never in discussion for the best player in the league. but, then again, your were probably still devastated by the sweep hakeem and jordan laid on your shittastic franchise so i'll give you a pass.

If he wasn't even in the discussion, why'd he win it? His team didn't have the best record and he still had an all time great PG playing next to him, so he didn't do it by himself.

[Heat007]

But you cant win 60 games without putting the ball in the bucket.

Rose is their halfcourt offense, he is their fastbreak offense, he is their late game offense.

It don't matter if Chicago gave up 80ppg if they only score 70ppg, that chalks up to a loss

In Rose's 15 worst games this year the Bulls have the same record as Rose's best 15 games.

However, when teams are close to the Bulls in rebounding differential, or when they slightly outrebound the Bulls, the Bulls have a sub- .500 record this year.

IE- Heat outrebound the Bulls in games 2 and 4 and win.. in game 3 the bulls outrebounded the heat but in the 2nd half when it mattered the rebounding was the same (with an edge to the Heat in the 4th quarter when the game was decided).

The bulls won with their defense and elite rebounding in the regular season (along with outworking teams with their hustle). They don't win games without all those 2nd chance points they get from rebounding from their horrible shooting as a team, and they don't win without limiting other teams from getting 2nd chance points via their rebounding on the defensive end as well

The Bulls LED THE LEAGUE in 2nd chance points "DIFFERENTIAL". They won by limiting teams from getting 2nd chance on the defensive end. And getting 2nd chance rebounding pts on the offensive end.. All by their rebounding (hustle). Derrick Rose had nothing to do with their rebounding or defense as Rose is very mediocre at both aspects of the game

If Rose was on an average rebounding team he would have never been considered for MVP.

That's the truth

[Harison]

MVP stands for Most Valuable Player

You take Rose off that team and they win 45 games instead of 60 or whatever it was. That is the definition of MVP

Anyone hating on Rose is just a hater
Swap Rose with Westbrook, and Bulls would do just as well +-few wins. Westbrook for MVP?

[Orlando Magic]

he won it because the voters didn't want to give another one to jordan and felt malone should get a lifetime achievement for his longevity. jordan won the sporting news mvp that year by a landslide (players vote for that) which shows their peers held jordan in a much higher regard. really, karl malone anywhere close to being as good as jordan in 97? if karl malone deserved the mvp in 97, then dirk nowitzki 07 is the greatest mvp ever and iverson deserved his over shaq.

99?

[The Judge]

I hate this type of thinking. It takes one year to win the MVP. It doesn't take 4 or 5 years to deserve it. If you're the MVP that year, you're the MVP.

Then in that case dominant players ala Shaq should have more than one.

If Derrick Rose continues shooting in the low 40% for the rest of his career and middles around the .500 mark, the MVP is going to not only look bad for the NBA, but bad for him as well.

[Brickz187]

Fact is before the season started the Bulls were predicted to be a 5 or 6 seed team and the Heat were predicted to be number 1 seed. Bulls went way past that and had the best record in the league, all lead by Rose. Regardless of how you want to put it, he deserved the MVP. All this defense won the games and mediocre blah blah crap doesn't matter, Rose LEAD his team every damn game of the season and they were the best team in the NBA. There really isn't anything you can argue.

[kaiiu]

Drose>. any of those f@gs over seas

[RaceBannana]

Rose is not the sexiest pick but he is the MVP, he is the best player on a team nobody expected to win 60 games and earn the top seed in the easter conference.

[Harison]

Fact is before the season started the Bulls were predicted to be a 5 or 6 seed team and the Heat were predicted to be number 1 seed. Bulls went way past that and had the best record in the league, all lead by Rose. Regardless of how you want to put it, he deserved the MVP. All this defense won the games and mediocre blah blah crap doesn't matter, Rose LEAD his team every damn game of the season and they were the best team in the NBA. There really isn't anything you can argue.
If Bulls fans have anyone to thank for the best record this season, its Thib > defense > Rose, in that order. defense doesnt matter to you? Sure, lets drop Rose to team with no defense and crappy coach, and would he still be MVP? I think you know the answer.

[yobore]

He earned the MVP. This year was really the perfect storm for Rose. Great defensive team, offensive rebounders to clean up, no other stars making big leaps in their team records, and CP and Deron having quiet seasons to make him the best at his position.

I don't mean to hate I like Rose and wish him well, but honestly given this perfect storm, his athleticism and decision-making and the career tracks of similar players, I would be VERY surprised if he ever has another season as good this one. Lots of people think this is him just getting started though, so it'll be fun to see how it plays out.

[Brickz187]

If Bulls fans have anyone to thank for the best record this season, its Thib > defense > Rose, in that order. defense doesnt matter to you? Sure, lets drop Rose to team with no defense and crappy coach, and would he still be MVP? I think you know the answer.

I agree, but the leader of the team still is Rose and Rose gets all the credit. Doesn't matter if the teams defense did everything for him, he got the numbers he got and the 60 + season wins, hes the MVP. I never said defense doesn't matter, but in this discussion it means nothing. Rose took advantage of his teams great defense and made himself the MVP.

[G-train]

MVP stands for Most Valuable Player

You take Rose off that team and they win 45 games instead of 60 or whatever it was. That is the definition of MVP

Anyone hating on Rose is just a hater

The MVP NEVER goes to the MVP.
It goes to a player on a successful team, that has proven his value over a few years.

[G-train]

What sense does that make? If he wsa the regular season MVP then he deserved it..

Not how the award has worked for 20 years.

[G-train]

One thing that I said all season is this:

Lebron James is the most valuable player to any team, he is the best player in the world, and he should have his third MVP in a row and you may as well give him the next three.

It will go down as a laughable MVP as time goes by..... in a decade people will say "how did the second greatest player ever not win MVP when he dropped 27/7/7 on good %'s and won the title?"

[step_back]

One thing that I said all season is this:

Lebron James is the most valuable player to any team, he is the best player in the world, and he should have his third MVP in a row and you may as well give him the next three.

It will go down as a laughable MVP as time goes by..... in a decade people will say "how did the second greatest player ever not win MVP when he dropped 27/7/7 on good %'s and won the title?"

Being the leagues best player does not make you MVP. How many times do we have to go through this? LeBron is most likely going to be the MVP of HIS team. The award is given to a player whom without, the team would not have had success (or as much) Heat with Wade and Bosh will still have a lot of success.

Nash deserved both of his, take him off that team. Do you really think the suns would have had the same regular season success?

The only candidate who I think has any case to be cheated out of the MVP is Dwight, unfortunately his team just didn't rack up enough regular season wins.

People seem to quickly forget that we were called a 6 seed team at best. Having a 62-20 record no one predicted and a big part of that is because of how Rose performed in the regular season.

[alexthegr8]

The NBA shits on any other league in the world.

[G-train]

Don't speak in generalities as I am not. I am talking specifically Lebron James this season.
If you are the actual best player in the league, put up the best numbers, and your team wins 58 games who should be MVP.
Rose sould have been MIP. Sure if in 2 years you can drop 25 and 9 assists and play consistent great defence then you can have MVP.

[Crown&Coke]

Don't speak in generalities as I am not. I am talking specifically Lebron James this season.
If you are the actual best player in the league, put up the best numbers, and your team wins 58 games who should be MVP.
Rose sould have been MIP. Sure if in 2 years you can drop 25 and 9 assists and play consistent great defence then you can have MVP.

that team was expected to win 70 games, how is winning 58 gonna get him an MVP?

Lebron James had an awesome reg. season, but Rose was by far the more valuable to his team, thus most valuable player

[Crown&Coke]

The NBA shits on any other league in the world.

co-sign on this one

in the world, son

[G-train]

that team was expected to win 70 games, how is winning 58 gonna get him an MVP?

Lebron James had an awesome reg. season, but Rose was by far the more valuable to his team, thus most valuable player

Get out of here with that weak stuff. Tyreke Evans is more valuable to the Kings than Rose is to the Bulls. Give him the award.

Lebron played the best. His team was successful. End of story.
Should have been MVP. Rose second. Howard third. Common sense.

/thread

[Crown&Coke]

Get out of here with that weak stuff. Tyreke Evans is more valuable to the Kings than Rose is to the Bulls. Give him the award.

Lebron played the best. His team was successful. End of story.
Should have been MVP. Rose second. Howard third. Common sense.

/thread

Dude, the MVP doesn't always go to the best player in the game, like so many have already pointed out. Othewise Shaq should have won it about 5x when the Lakers were smashing on everyone. Instead, once it was determined the Lakers were the cream of the NBA they no longer got the benefit of the MVP

The award goes to someone whose team exceeds expectations.

[step_back]

Don't speak in generalities as I am not. I am talking specifically Lebron James this season.
If you are the actual best player in the league, put up the best numbers, and your team wins 58 games who should be MVP.
Rose sould have been MIP. Sure if in 2 years you can drop 25 and 9 assists and play consistent great defence then you can have MVP.

Again it's an award given to the best player on a team that would otherwise not have had success. A team that has exceeded expectations because of 1 individual. LeBron earned his MVP's in Cleveland. Do you really think Miami would have been unsuccessful with a duo of Wade and Bosh. Maybe not the same amount of wins but certainly not missed out on the playoffs like the Bulls would have. Both Noah and Boozer were out for months during the season and Rose was a big reason why we continued to have the wins pile up.

[Crown&Coke]

Again it's an award given to the best player on a team that would otherwise not have had success. A team that has exceeded expectations because of 1 individual. LeBron earned his MVP's in Cleveland. Do you really think Miami would have been unsuccessful with a duo of Wade and Bosh. Maybe not the same amount of wins but certainly not missed out on the playoffs like the Bulls would have. Both Noah and Boozer were out for months during the season and Rose was a big reason why we continued to have the wins pile up.

we are talking to a brick wall....

the award is Most Valuable Player, not Most Best Player. some don't know what the difference is I guess

[B]

Let's get real here. Any league that has Derrick Rose as its MVP is a POS.

He is just a ball hogging, chucking, trigger happy, bad shooting, turnover machine.

Any league that would have him as its MVP is a seriously weak and pathetic league. Watching this "MVP" play is such a joke.What happened to all your spelling errors and misuse of the English language? Forget to get into character before you logged onto your gimmick account?

[Assassin]

Euroleague sucks donkey shit.

[clayton]

He's still a better player than anybody in Europe.

[Disaprine]

Let's get real here. Any league that has Derrick Rose as its MVP is a POS.

He is just a ball hogging, chucking, trigger happy, bad shooting, turnover machine.

Any league that would have him as its MVP is a seriously weak and pathetic league. Watching this "MVP" play is such a joke.
:roll: this guy

[Euroleague]

Believe me its far beyond your soft, flopping euroleague

In the Euroleague flopping is banned. In the Euroleague the refs allow way more physical contact. In the Euroleague there is a true zone defense allowed and hand checking is allowed and hip checking and moving screens and moving picks are allowed.

The NBA is the league that allows flopping and that has rules that are designed for wimps, not the Euroleague.

[JtotheIzzo]

Let's get real here. Any league that has Derrick Rose as its MVP is a POS.

He is just a ball hogging, chucking, trigger happy, bad shooting, turnover machine.

Any league that would have him as its MVP is a seriously weak and pathetic league. Watching this "MVP" play is such a joke.

Players cut from NBA teams = player of the week in top Euro leagues.

thank you, come again!

[Euroleague]

Haters gon' hate.

Rose lovers gonna love them some Rose.

[Euroleague]

Nba's mvp went head to head against euroleague mvp in a friendly in Athens last summer.Euroleague mvp could hardly stay in front of him,euroleague mvp finished with 1 point on 0/4 fgs and 8 turnovers:lol ,nba mvp had 13 points on 6/7 fgs.k thanx bye

Euroleague MVP - Dimitris Diamantidis is the 2nd most overrated basketball player that ever lived on planet Earth behind only Wicky Pubio.

If you do not know that, then you have never ever seen a Euroleague game. Diamantidis can't even guard a single point guard and he is voted "Defensive Player of the Year".

As you know, you are trolling. Euroleague MVP award nominees are picked by FAN votes in the arenas and then are 25% voted on by FAN voting online on the internet (and you can vote as many times as you want).

The award also AS A RULE can only go to a player on a Final Four team.

In other words, you are seriously trolling right now.

[Euroleague]

Drose>. any of those f@gs over seas

Then why did he absolutely suck at the FIBA World Championship?

[Euroleague]

He's still a better player than anybody in Europe.

No he isn't. Not even close.

[Bone Machine]

Let's get real here. Any league that has Derrick Rose as its MVP is a POS.

He is just a ball hogging, chucking, trigger happy, bad shooting, turnover machine.

Any league that would have him as its MVP is a seriously weak and pathetic league. Watching this "MVP" play is such a joke.

Lol he would absolutely rape your Euroleague for sure.

[Euroleague]

Players cut from NBA teams = player of the week in top Euro leagues.

thank you, come again!

The NBA MVP would get benched in any good Euroleague team.

[Euroleague]

Lol he would absolutely rape your Euroleague for sure.

He would be riding the bench in any good Euroleague team, if he did not get cut.

[Hank]

Derrick Rose isn't even the best player at his position. Never mind being a Top 10 player.

Give me CP3 at point guard any day, he's a much MUCH better all-around player than Rose is. Rose can only dream of being as good as him.

[Euroleague]

Weren't Juan Carlos Navarro and Anthony Parker MVPs of the Euroleague?

Euroleague MVP award nominees are picked by FAN votes in the arenas and then are 25% voted on by FAN voting online on the internet (and you can vote as many times as you want).

The award also AS A RULE can only go to a player on a Final Four team and it is voted on AFTER the playoffs, not before them.

The Euroleague MVP award is not even remotely similar to the NBA one in terms of the criteria and voting methods.

Also, Rose is definitely better than Parker (that was YEARS ago that Parker was even an MVP), but Navarro is far and away light years a better player than Rose could ever dream of being.

Replace Rose with Navarro and the Bulls would be guaranteed NBA champions, easily.

[Chapallaz]

Jeff sure likes his trolls. These morons at least generate some traffic.

[kaiiu]

ANTHONY PARKER WAS A EUROLEAGUE MVP :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:

[Bone Machine]

Replace Rose with Navarro and the Bulls would be guaranteed NBA champions, easily.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

[kaiiu]

Replace Rose with Navarro and the Bulls would be guaranteed NBA champions, easily.
http://ingridspeak.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/precious.jpg

[Euroleague]

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Anyone that does not know that Navarro is better than Derrick Rose automatically goes into the category of people that have zero basic basketball knowledge. It's actually seriously pathetic that any so-called basketball fans would even compare Rose to someone of Navarro's level.

Yes, Rose is better than Anthony Parker. Yes, he is better than Dimitris Diamantidis. No way in hell is he as good as Juan Carlos Navarro. Not even close.

[Euroleague]

ANTHONY PARKER WAS A EUROLEAGUE MVP :roll: :roll: :roll: :applause:

A total POS player like Derrick Rose was NBA MVP. :roll: :roll: :roll:

[kaiiu]

A total POS player like Derrick Rose was NBA MVP. :roll: :roll: :roll:
:roll: :roll: :roll: Parker cant even sniff 10 points in the NBA but he was a MVP over there :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Cangri]

Hes not a good MVP. But its not his fault he cant beat this STACKED Superteam. :confusedshrug:
Actually he deserves most of the blame, he's been playing like sht. Is that how the mvp of his team should lead his team?

[Kblaze8855]

Anyone that does not know that Navarro is better than Derrick Rose automatically goes into the category of people that have zero basic basketball knowledge.

You say that as if hes someone NBA fans have never seen before. He was a role player on one of the worst teams in the NBA like...2 years ago. This isnt some godly superstar who played out his entire prime elsewhere and came over as a shell of his former self.

Anyway I watched a couple games of Diamantidis on ESPN 360 just because id seen him listed as one of the best in the world. I kinda assumed I caught him in off games because he didnt do anything special.

[nathanjizzle]

Admit it, most you haters have only watched 3 bulls game in the regular season, and judging him on his poor postseason play.

[Grey Dawn]

The NBA really should have waited to give it to him. 3 years in isn't enough time to determine if he deserves one.

If he really deserved one, he would get it anyway.

It is an award for any given season, not a lifetime acheivement award.

It is also an award for the regular season, and playoffs should in no way add or take away from the awarding

[Euroleague]

The whole sports world is laughing at the NBA and their "MVP" selection.

[step_back]

The whole sports world is laughing at the NBA and their "MVP" selection.

The whole of Ish is laughing at you. You bumped a thread where you got owned over and over and over again. Just give it a rest.

[Kyle_korver]

MVP stands for Most Valuable Player

You take Rose off that team and they win 45 games instead of 60 or whatever it was. That is the definition of MVP

Anyone hating on Rose is just a hater
Take rose off that team n they would actually play team basketball

[B-Easy8]

Most Valuable player to their team is Dwight Howard, without him the Magic would win 25 games tops. If the team wasn't so stupid they would feed him on every play and they would have gotten past the ATL.

Rose didn't deserve it, anyone who watched the Bulls could see that their best quality was their defense, not Rose going 1 on 5 but this league seems to love that.

[step_back]

Most Valuable player to their team is Dwight Howard, without him the Magic would win 25 games tops. If the team wasn't so stupid they would feed him on every play and they would have gotten past the ATL.

Rose didn't deserve it, anyone who watched the Bulls could see that their best quality was their defense, not Rose going 1 on 5 but this league seems to love that.

Rose was our best regular season player and kept the team in games when we had injuries to our frontcourt players. People are throwing his regular season play together with his poor post season.

Yes our defense and rebounding were the winning factors in most games but clearly you didn't watch the Bulls this season because if you had you would have known that he was the closer for our team and the guy who shouldered the scoring load.

[B-Easy8]

Rose was our best regular season player and kept the team in games when we had injuries to our frontcourt players. People are throwing his regular season play together with his poor post season.

Yes our defense and rebounding were the winning factors in most games but clearly you didn't watch the Bulls this season because if you had you would have known that he was the closer for our team and the guy who shouldered the scoring load.

I know Rose was good. I re read my post and it sounded like I was bashing him but I wasn't meaning too, he was good. I just feel as though Dwight did more for his team than Rose did.

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I know Rose was good. I re read my post and it sounded like I was bashing him but I wasn't meaning too, he was good. I just feel as though Dwight did more for his team than Rose did.

I agree with you, Dwight really did do everything for Orlando this year. The only reason why he didn't get the MVP is because the magic didn't win enough games. He had the same problem that Kobe had back in 05/6 and Wade last year.

[Eldrunko247]

Dumb, he deserved it. Didn't play his best in the playoffs but playoffs have nothing to do with regular season MVP. Did I mention...some people are so dumb?

[Heatles201]

D12 should of had this one