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GOBB
05-25-2011, 11:46 PM
Congrats Mavs fans who were ISH regulars. :applause:

http://www.loupickney.com/comm/2011/dirk.jpg

If this thread jinx or backfires my apologies. Dallas fans cant beat Philly fans no way. Fact lol

PJR
05-25-2011, 11:48 PM
Doubt it. Miami has homecourt. Bron and Wade will not be denied in their building.

ImmortalD24
05-25-2011, 11:52 PM
Who you got in a 7 game series?

I have Heat in 6.

RoseCity07
05-25-2011, 11:52 PM
Actually this is the end of the road for Dallas. Miami is going to win. We knew Dallas was good but the only team that looks better is Miami.

No way can dirk cancel out bosh lebron and wade

kaiiu
05-25-2011, 11:54 PM
Mavs in 6 assuming the refs dont cheat again

JellyBean
05-25-2011, 11:54 PM
Congrats, Dallas and to the Mavericks fans. I gotta give the Mavericks props, they stepped up all year. First it was the Spurs, who were the favorites. Then it was the Lakers. But lurking behind the curtain, were the Mavs. People were hyping the Spurs and the Lakers, but the Mavs went about their game improving on the DL. Congrats and good luck in the Finals. Plus with an owner like Mark Cuban, you guys are cool.

Congrats, Mavs and to their fans from a Lakers fan.:applause: :cheers:

SebasMiamiFan
05-25-2011, 11:54 PM
Bulls had homecourt advantage and well now they have what?

Share with the board bozo.

Yah because Miami won on the road and at home. :hammerhead:

Rowe
05-25-2011, 11:55 PM
Its nice to see the rematch, but Wade is too clutch in the NBA Finals and as a #2 option he will feast on Jason Terry.

LeBron is playing with his reputation on the line and he will be putting forth a great performance as well.

Be prepared for the most fouls ever called in a NBA Finals.

LoPro4u2c
05-25-2011, 11:56 PM
Enjoy the WCF championship, Dallas. Lebron and Dwade has a secret weapon. They're called free throws. Your jumpshotting team has nothing on free throws. Congrats Miami on the championship.

10x91= 5 Rings
05-25-2011, 11:56 PM
Actually this is the end of the road for Dallas. Miami is going to win. We knew Dallas was good but the only team that looks better is Miami.

No way can dirk cancel out bosh lebron and wade


Thank god basketball is a TEAM SPORT !!!

PJR
05-25-2011, 11:56 PM
Bulls had homecourt advantage and well now they have what?

Share with the board bozo.

Do the Bulls have Lebron and Wade? :lol

Kingwillball
05-25-2011, 11:57 PM
Once Heat take Dallas confidence they will steamroll them..

schism206
05-25-2011, 11:57 PM
i say the mavs in 6. at least that's what i want haha. it's going to be interesting... i know miami looks good, but dallas is playing really smart, team basketball, and just seems very sharp. dirk looks extremely comfortable out there in crunch time. like when he missed that open 3, and the ball bounced out and back to him and without ANY hesitation shot another one and nailed it, that was badass. i know miami will be the favorites, but i'm really hoping it's dallas' year.

Clippersfan86
05-25-2011, 11:58 PM
Mavs or Heat in 7. I'm rooting for Mavs but not confident in their ability to stop the trio. It's going to be such an awesome series.

kaiiu
05-25-2011, 11:58 PM
The Heat Are Gonna Set A Free Throw Record

Dirk Is On A Mission Mavs In 6

Tarik One
05-25-2011, 11:59 PM
Who would have thought that the Rangers and Mavericks would be the 2 Dallas area teams to make it to the championship round instead if the Cowboys?

3zazer1
05-26-2011, 12:02 AM
Actually this is the end of the road for Dallas. Miami is going to win. We knew Dallas was good but the only team that looks better is Miami.

No way can dirk cancel out bosh lebron and wade

But how can the Heat stop Dirk and the shooters? I hate this double standered bullshit on this forum when we're talking about the Heat. They ARE NOT a better team than Dallas.
Dallas has the better coach, better role players, beter offense plus they win the matchup battle

J Kidd
Stevenson
Marion(Hopefully Caron if he can get better by June 2nd)
Dirk
Tyson
vs
Bibby(??)
Wade
James
Bosh
Anthony

:facepalm

Lets be real, Dallas in 6.

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 12:02 AM
The Heat Are Gonna Set A Free Throw Record

Dirk Is On A Mission Mavs In 6


And U Dont Think Lebron is ?

Rowe
05-26-2011, 12:02 AM
thanx .. now miami are officially jinx

Well there already is a thread on Dallas winning the title.

They both cant lose.:oldlol:

Wade & LeBron are just going to have a field day attacking the paint considering Dirk is not an interior presence to deter them away.

I do think Bosh's length will give Dirk some trouble on defense.

kaiiu
05-26-2011, 12:04 AM
And U Dont Think Lebron is ?
Dirk already has ammunition doe. He was cheating ou tof a ring vs the very franchise he is about to play.

Did u see him walk off the court afterwards? Dude means business while Lebron is out there taunting and showboating like he has already won something.

LET GO MAVS :rockon:

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:05 AM
Thank god basketball is a TEAM SPORT !!!

Thank God Miami plays as a team with their team defense.

Rowe
05-26-2011, 12:06 AM
Is the refs going to be the excuse every time Miami wins? :facepalm
No.

However Miami has the 2 of the 3 active leaders in FT attempts in the NBA Playoffs. The only guy with more is Shaq, which says a lot.

Superstar calls exist for a reason. Wade & LeBron know a lot about it.

bl2k8
05-26-2011, 12:06 AM
Heat in 6 because of the 2-3-2 format. they still might win in five though.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:07 AM
Dirk already has ammunition doe. He was cheating ou tof a ring vs the very franchise he is about to play.

Did u see him walk off the court afterwards? Dude means business while Lebron is out there taunting and showboating like he has already won something.

LET GO MAVS :rockon:

If you paid attention to the Heat, Miami is extremely hungry for a ring. Remember that celebration between Wade and LeBron after the Boston series? Yah it really seemed like he was showboating. :rolleyes:

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:08 AM
No.

However Miami has the 2 of the 3 active leaders in FT attempts in the NBA Playoffs. The only guy with more is Shaq, which says a lot.

Superstar calls exist for a reason. Wade & LeBron know a lot about it.

Yah well any superstar who attacks the basket like they do is going to get calls. People get mad about calls when they are actually fouls.

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 12:08 AM
Sounds like ABC crew in postgame are gonna pick Dallas against Miami from the way they are talking but didn't make any predictions yet cause Miami is not there yet.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:09 AM
:roll:

Please.... did the refs make Dirk miss those free throws and make Dallas miss key shots? Did the refs make them miss the 3 pointer in game 6?

Rowe
05-26-2011, 12:10 AM
Dirk already has ammunition doe. He was cheating ou tof a ring vs the very franchise he is about to play.

Did u see him walk off the court afterwards? Dude means business while Lebron is out there taunting and showboating like he has already won something.

LET GO MAVS :rockon:

You know that means nothing, right?

LeBron still gives it 100%. He has just upped his passion this Playoffs due to all of the criticism he received for The Decision.

Both guys are on a mission.

I miss the NBA's "There can only be 1" commercials. Because this is legit for both.

You drop 2 NBA Finals and people will hold it against you unless you have rings anyways. Either way LeBron or Dirk is going to come away 0-2 in the NBA Finals.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:11 AM
Heat in 5 or 6. The home court advantage will be huge.

TylerOO
05-26-2011, 12:11 AM
Heat in 5. Kingjames will not accept defeat, Ive been saying it all year. He wont let himself lose! This is the Heatles year! WOOT WOOT WOOT!

catch24
05-26-2011, 12:12 AM
Dallas in 6-7.

LurkingFanboy
05-26-2011, 12:12 AM
If you paid attention to the Heat, Miami is extremely hungry for a ring. Remember that celebration between Wade and LeBron after the Boston series? Yah it really seemed like he was showboating. :rolleyes:
Most of us HAVE paid attention to the heat wheter we wanted to or not. We were beaten over the head with them all season.
Better question is have you paid attention to Dallas?

That look in Dirk's eyes dude looks like he'd slice a basket of kitten throats just to get a chance to play for a ring again. If the team follows their superstar Miami might win but they are going to feel it in the morning. NEVER seen Dirk act like that.

Rowe
05-26-2011, 12:13 AM
Yah well any superstar who attacks the basket like they do is going to get calls. People get mad about calls when they are actually fouls.

Their ability to attack the basket is the primary thing that makes both players superstars. There are few players who can easily get to the basket as they two.

Thus, because that is their game it makes referees give them the benefit of the doubt on a lot of contact plays.

It works in a circle.

People get mad when they see a guy spend his entire game attacking the basket and going to the line each time. Its much different than watching a guy like prime Shaq set up down low and get hacked to keep him from scoring.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:13 AM
Most of us HAVE paid attention to the heat wheter we wanted to or not. We were beaten over the head with them all season.
Better question is have you paid attention to Dallas?

That look in Dirk's eyes dude looks like he'd slice a basket of kitten throats just to get a chance to play for a ring again. If the team follows their superstar Miami might win but they are going to feel it in the morning. NEVER seen Dirk act like that.

We'll see. I'm not counting Dallas out, but I'm just saying you guys make it like Dirk will drop 48 on the Heat. You're playing the #1 defense in the NBA now. It's going to be a 6 game series with a Heat win IMO.

LurkingFanboy
05-26-2011, 12:14 AM
Please.... did the refs make Dirk miss those free throws and make Dallas miss key shots? Did the refs make them miss the 3 pointer in game 6?
Did the refs gift wrap a come back when it mattered the most for the Heat? Yep come on man no way to defend the officiating in 06. It's not a legit excuse for 2011 but don't put your head in the ground like it didn't happen.

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 12:14 AM
Dallas in 6-7.


Dallas isnt beating Miami in a gm 7 in Miami.. Maybe in 6 but not 7..

EasyD
05-26-2011, 12:14 AM
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7556/ozprnu1306385864.jpg

stephanieg
05-26-2011, 12:14 AM
No homecourt, 5v8, NBA's golden boys, Stern hates Cuban, Marion, and Dirk (Jew vs. German)...this is gonna be really tough. 3 point shooters are gonna have to light it up.

Sarcastic
05-26-2011, 12:15 AM
It's over before it even started.

kaiiu
05-26-2011, 12:15 AM
No homecourt, 5v8, NBA's golden boys, Stern hates Cuban, Marion, and Dirk (Jew vs. German)...this is gonna be really tough. 3 point shooters are gonna have to light it up.
:roll: :roll:

"ITS GONE BE EASY"

MostHated305
05-26-2011, 12:15 AM
Heat in 6 easily.

TrueRob
05-26-2011, 12:15 AM
Dallas = 2011 NBA Champs.

EasyD
05-26-2011, 12:15 AM
http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/7556/ozprnu1306385864.jpg

Doranku
05-26-2011, 12:16 AM
Yup, this reminds me of the '08 Finals. Everyone was picking the Lakers because of their demolition against the defending champions in the WCF despite Boston having homecourt and being the more stacked team. Same thing here.

Miami in 5 or 6.

TrueRob
05-26-2011, 12:16 AM
What a nightmare opponent for the Mavs, prime LBJ & prime D-Wade.

SavageMode
05-26-2011, 12:17 AM
hm? Deshawn stevenson? Shawn Marion??

Miami will lock down their shooters with their suffocating defense and Lebron and Wade will plow through Jason the Jet Terry trying to defend them.

Dirk can score all he wants but it just won't be enough to stop negate Lebron Wade and Bosh.

10x91= 5 Rings
05-26-2011, 12:17 AM
One MVP will get his first ring..that`s for sure.

LurkingFanboy
05-26-2011, 12:17 AM
We'll see. I'm not counting Dallas out, but I'm just saying you guys make it like Dirk will drop 48 on the Heat. You're playing the #1 defense in the NBA now. It's going to be a 6 game series with a Heat win IMO.
I'm not taking Miami lightly none of the fans of DAllas are taking Miami lightly. The team isn't taking Miami lightly. Don't think the opposite is true I hope for Miami's sake they are because if they aren't they are going to get bitten. Dallas hasn't played anybody like Miami but Miami sure hasn't played anybody like Dallas yet. Not in the least but that's why they play the games. Good luck:cheers: BTW I'm a Phins fan too so I can't be too mean to ya. lol

Rowe
05-26-2011, 12:17 AM
No homecourt, 5v8, NBA's golden boys, Stern hates Cuban, Marion, and Dirk (Jew vs. German)...this is gonna be really tough. 3 point shooters are gonna have to light it up.

Miami will do it without homecourt.

The Heat can run on offense & play halfcourt defense. Dallas will not be sitting around knocking down 3's all game, because a miss = easy fastbreak for Miami.

Marion will not be imposing his will on LeBron like he did Durant.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:17 AM
I just don't see Miami losing to Dallas after beating Boston and Chicago.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:19 AM
I'm not taking Miami lightly none of the fans of DAllas are taking Miami lightly. The team isn't taking Miami lightly. Don't think the opposite is true I hope for Miami's sake they are because if they aren't they are going to get bitten. Dallas hasn't played anybody like Miami but Miami sure hasn't played anybody like Dallas yet. Not in the least but that's why they play the games. Good luck:cheers: BTW I'm a Phins fan too so I can't be too mean to ya. lol

Trust me. People think the Heat just fool around and showboat, but they take it very serious. Spo is a very good coach who gets his team prepared. The Big 3 are very determined. It should be a good series. And Go Fins!

10x91= 5 Rings
05-26-2011, 12:19 AM
What a nightmare opponent for the Mavs, prime LBJ & prime D-Wade.

Odds are against Dirk,but time will tell.

LurkingFanboy
05-26-2011, 12:20 AM
Yup, this reminds me of the '08 Finals. Everyone was picking the Lakers because of their demolition against the defending champions in the WCF despite Boston having homecourt and being the more stacked team. Same thing here.

Miami in 5 or 6.
TD Garden for homecourt for boston>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>. AAA for Miami. Homecourt for Miami will be a non factor and yes I know they haven't dropped a game there that's more attributable to the team than the intimidating atmosphere in the half empty at the start of the game AAA. Just saying.

ConanRulesNBC
05-26-2011, 12:20 AM
Marion will probably defend James and Kidd/Terry will take turns defending Wade.

3zazer1
05-26-2011, 12:21 AM
That's what people said about Boston and Chicago too. :lol

As I said in many other threads, the Celtics were counted out after the Trade deadline
The Bulls just wernt ready yet.

The Mavericks are almost seemingly built to take out the Heat. Physical Big man, shooters, Dirk. This wont be as easy as the last few series

gleden
05-26-2011, 12:21 AM
Its never easy, and these mavs arent the same mavs as before obv. Nobody even expected them to get out of first round, beat Portland in 6, Lakers in 4, OKC in 5. Thats pretty impressive.
Im still gonna predict Heat in 6 or 7 tho.
Both teams are good on the road

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:22 AM
As I said in many other threads, the Celtics were counted out after the Trade deadline
The Bulls just wernt ready yet.

The Mavericks are almost seemingly built to take out the Heat. Physical Big man, shooters, Dirk. This wont be as easy as the last few series

Easy? :lol

PJR
05-26-2011, 12:22 AM
Heat in 6.

G-train
05-26-2011, 12:23 AM
Heat havent made finals yet, but if they do they will beat the Mavericks.
Why?

Defence + big 3. Same formula for any team.

3zazer1
05-26-2011, 12:24 AM
J Kidd/Deshawn/Terry=Wade
Marion(and maybe Butler)= Lebron

DeronMillsap
05-26-2011, 12:24 AM
Mavs in 6

kentatm
05-26-2011, 12:25 AM
I'll take Dallas... in 7

http://thebackyardcafe.homestead.com/boy_dog_pray.jpg



http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx77/bofus420/FinalsPosterLR-1.jpg?t=1306383787

FinishHim!
05-26-2011, 12:25 AM
The thing is, Dirk takes over down the stretch but offensively the Mavericks aren't a one man band like the Bulls are. They have multiple scorers on that team and they don't run Dirk iso every play.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:25 AM
http://i743.photobucket.com/albums/xx77/bofus420/FinalsPosterLR-1.jpg?t=1306383787

link (http://mbd.scout.com/mb.aspx?s=268&f=2144&t=7543573)
:applause:

DuMa
05-26-2011, 12:26 AM
http://tcarther.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/stevenson-deshawn-392-cp-0804271.jpg

donald_trump
05-26-2011, 12:26 AM
they are going back to the 2-3-2 format?

that just gives the team with 3 games at home more of an advantage.

3zazer1
05-26-2011, 12:26 AM
Easy? :lol

The Heat ran over the Celtics and 76ers
The Bulls, as I just said, weren't ready yet.

kaiiu
05-26-2011, 12:28 AM
they are going back to the 2-3-2 format?

that just gives the team with 3 games at home more of an advantage.
nah. Its damn near impossible to win all 3 games at home.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:28 AM
The Heat ran over the Celtics and 76ers
The Bulls, as I just said, weren't ready yet.

Pretty much every game came down to the wire except like game 2 of the Sixers series.

lefthook00
05-26-2011, 12:29 AM
Dallas already practiced guarding Wade/LeBron by guarding Westbrook/Durant. Wade is like Westbrook, Durant is like LeBron. Not literally, but you know what I mean. But Dallas didn't have to guard anyone on OKC like Bosh. He is the key to this series for the Heat.

JtotheIzzo
05-26-2011, 12:29 AM
Stevenson, Marion, Kidd, Terry...

MavsPoke
05-26-2011, 12:30 AM
Dirk coming for the Heat.

He didn't give a damn about that WCF trophy. Gave the fans a quick moment and then walked straight off the court. I bet he is working on his game with Holger right now.

Replay32
05-26-2011, 12:30 AM
Dallas already practiced guarding Wade/LeBron by guarding Westbrook/Durant. Wade is like Westbrook, Durant is like LeBron. Not literally, but you know what I mean. But Dallas didn't have to guard anyone on OKC like Bosh. He is the key to this series for the Heat.

:facepalm

Anyway, I didn't realize the heat made it to the finals this year.

PowerGlove
05-26-2011, 12:31 AM
Dallas already practiced guarding Wade/LeBron by guarding Westbrook/Durant. Wade is like Westbrook, Durant is like LeBron. Not literally, but you know what I mean. But Dallas didn't have to guard anyone on OKC like Bosh. He is the key to this series for the Heat.

I really dont.

asdf1990
05-26-2011, 12:31 AM
Dallas already practiced guarding Wade/LeBron by guarding Westbrook/Durant. Wade is like Westbrook, Durant is like LeBron. Not literally, but you know what I mean. But Dallas didn't have to guard anyone on OKC like Bosh. He is the key to this series for the Heat.

smh, not even remotely close.

catch24
05-26-2011, 12:32 AM
they are going back to the 2-3-2 format?

that just gives the team with 3 games at home more of an advantage.

The Finals have been the 2-3-2 format for a while now, dude :oldlol:

tpols
05-26-2011, 12:33 AM
When do the finals start?

3zazer1
05-26-2011, 12:34 AM
Pretty much every game came down to the wire except like game 2 of the Sixers series.

My definition of ran over is when a team outplays another team during the game. The Heat outplayed the Celtics, bulls and 76ers. Can you argue with that?

bl2k8
05-26-2011, 12:34 AM
they are going back to the 2-3-2 format?

that just gives the team with 3 games at home more of an advantage.
No, only two teams have won all three since they switched it.

asdf1990
05-26-2011, 12:34 AM
I just feel bad for the superstar that's gonna lose. He will get crucified.

MavsPoke
05-26-2011, 12:36 AM
Congrats Mavs fans who were ISH regulars. :applause:

http://www.loupickney.com/comm/2011/dirk.jpg

If this thread jinx or backfires my apologies. Dallas fans cant beat Philly fans no way. Fact lol

Thanks GOBB!

Hiei
05-26-2011, 12:38 AM
Heat in 4-5, I am sure they are laughing their asses off at this match up.

nbaballllller
05-26-2011, 12:40 AM
But how can the Heat stop Dirk and the shooters? I hate this double standered bullshit on this forum when we're talking about the Heat. They ARE NOT a better team than Dallas.
Dallas has the better coach, better role players, beter offense plus they win the matchup battle

J Kidd
Stevenson
Marion(Hopefully Caron if he can get better by June 2nd)
Dirk
Tyson
vs
Bibby(??)
Wade
James
Bosh
Anthony

:facepalm

Lets be real, Dallas in 6.

So how much $$ have you put down on your mavericks??

Lets be real. Heat in 5

lilgodfather1
05-26-2011, 12:41 AM
Heat in 4-5, I am sure they are laughing their asses off at this match up.
I agree. Heat sweep.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:41 AM
When do the finals start?

June 2nd I believe.

nbaballllller
05-26-2011, 12:42 AM
smh, not even remotely close.

This.

Gtfo

Dallas struggled containing players from getting into the paint. They managed to win this series with veteran leadership and poise in the final minutes. OKC actually outplayed them for much of the series.

Lebron and Dwade are going to go ham on this defense.

Oh and that CB guy will be able to get his at will

Miami in 5

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:45 AM
My definition of ran over is when a team outplays another team during the game. The Heat outplayed the Celtics, bulls and 76ers. Can you argue with that?

Well the Sixers outplayed Miami but Miami was too talented for them to overcome. Boston played on Miami's level but Miami was just too athletic and young for Boston. Chicago has been very good and played their best in like every game but Miami's talent and clutch plays were just too much for them. It hasn't been easy. Philly almost took us to a game 6. Boston could have made it a 6/7 game series with a few plays. Same with Chicago. It was tough.

Clippersfan86
05-26-2011, 12:46 AM
Okay. Marion has been guarding PF's his entire career. Lebron WILL NOT punk him in the finals. I'm gonna tell you new NBA fans that right now. Then they have Stevenson who has done an okay job on Lebron dating back to the Wizards/Cavs series (though Lebron definitely dominated him a few times). Also Corey Brewer will do a great job on Lebron/Wade. They actually have a lot of great perimeter defenders to throw at Miami that Chicago didn't. Kidd, Marion, Brewer, Stevenson and even Terry at times is one hell of a perimeter defense.

Ancient Legend
05-26-2011, 12:46 AM
Mav fans, prepare your anuses. The Heat's defense is unlike anything the Mavs hace faced this year. LeBron and Wade have a dynasty in the making, and it starts in a few days.

And if by any chance the Mavs, win, I hope Jason Terry ruptured his ACL and didn't play a single minute in the finals. Other than that, i'm ok with Dirk winning his ring.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 12:47 AM
Dallas already practiced guarding Wade/LeBron by guarding Westbrook/Durant. Wade is like Westbrook, Durant is like LeBron. Not literally, but you know what I mean. But Dallas didn't have to guard anyone on OKC like Bosh. He is the key to this series for the Heat.
:lol :roll: :facepalm

dillondavis
05-26-2011, 12:53 AM
C'mon mavs!!!!!! U can do it ! U can do it all night long!

NBASTATMAN
05-26-2011, 12:55 AM
But how can the Heat stop Dirk and the shooters? I hate this double standered bullshit on this forum when we're talking about the Heat. They ARE NOT a better team than Dallas.
Dallas has the better coach, better role players, beter offense plus they win the matchup battle

J Kidd
Stevenson
Marion(Hopefully Caron if he can get better by June 2nd)
Dirk
Tyson
vs
Bibby(??)
Wade
James
Bosh
Anthony

:facepalm

Lets be real, Dallas in 6.


:cheers:

chazzy
05-26-2011, 12:55 AM
21ppg 30 FG% 5 TO/PG :confusedshrug:

Not saying these numbers will continue, but they've already shown they are capable of not letting Lebron destroy them. Marion's length can bother Lebron's jumper and Chandler protects the rim well.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 01:00 AM
If Boston nor Chicago cannot stop the Big 3, how will Dallas?

asdf1990
05-26-2011, 01:03 AM
21ppg 30 FG% 5 TO/PG :confusedshrug:

Not saying these numbers will continue, but they've already shown they are capable of not letting Lebron destroy them. Marion's length can bother Lebron's jumper and Chandler protects the rim well.

both of those games were early in the season, when lebron was playing down right shitty.

chazzy
05-26-2011, 01:05 AM
both of those games were early in the season, when lebron was playing down right shitty.
2nd game was their lone loss during their 21 of 22 winning streak, right in the middle of it.

Ancient Legend
05-26-2011, 01:08 AM
21ppg 30 FG% 5 TO/PG :confusedshrug:

Not saying these numbers will continue, but they've already shown they are capable of not letting Lebron destroy them. Marion's length can bother Lebron's jumper and Chandler protects the rim well.

So you're saying that Dallas has better defenders than the Bulls? If not, then the Bulls have already shown they can't stop LeBron, what makes you think the Mavs will have better results.

It will come down to defense. It is a tired cliche but it's true that it wins championships.

If LeBron can guard Rose, the MVP, he can slow down that pest Barea, or have a go at Dirk.

Wade won't have to worry about defending Kidd much since all of his drives are basically dish outs to the open man. Their perimeter defense is by far the quickest in the NBA. No more open Jason Terry threes.

Bosh WILL make Dirk work on defense. Dirk didn't have to do anything against Ibaka and Collison.

The Mavs have one determined superstar, the Heat have two.

Kurosawa0
05-26-2011, 01:08 AM
Miami in 5.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 01:08 AM
Miami's playoff run proves that the regular season is meaningless. The Heat lose every year to Dallas yet we won the Finals anyways.

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 01:08 AM
If Boston nor Chicago cannot stop the Big 3, how will Dallas?

Boston had the remedy to beat MIA, they just had unlucky breaks of the NBA season with Rondo being even more limited, KG gassing out. This DAL team is a little younger than BOS and has young legs with chemistry along with veterans that look fresh.

I dont know who wins but MAVS defense is surprisingly good. Westbrook is more athletic than Dwyne Wade now and they dealt with him for the most part.

asd
05-26-2011, 01:09 AM
wade's been making kidd his b*&@ ever since he entered the league

he is going to feast on dallas' perimeter d

chairman
05-26-2011, 01:09 AM
J Kidd/Deshawn/Terry=Wade
Marion(and maybe Butler)= Lebron
lol whats up with all these bulls fans giving up on the bulls? wtf

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 01:11 AM
Boston had the remedy to beat MIA, they just had unlucky breaks of the NBA season with Rondo being even more limited, KG gassing out. This DAL team is a little younger than BOS and has young legs with chemistry along with veterans that look fresh.

I dont know who wins but MAVS defense is surprisingly good. Westbrook is more athletic than Dwyne Wade now and they dealt with him for the most part.

Dallas has a good defense, but Boston and Chicago were top 3 in defense. Miami went off on both of these defenses. Dallas will not stop Miami's offense. Miami's defense is the best and you will not see open looks that often.

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 01:12 AM
Okay. Marion has been guarding PF's his entire career. Lebron WILL NOT punk him in the finals. I'm gonna tell you new NBA fans that right now. Then they have Stevenson who has done an okay job on Lebron dating back to the Wizards/Cavs series (though Lebron definitely dominated him a few times). Also Corey Brewer will do a great job on Lebron/Wade. They actually have a lot of great perimeter defenders to throw at Miami that Chicago didn't. Kidd, Marion, Brewer, Stevenson and even Terry at times is one hell of a perimeter defense.


Could of fooled me there Defense looked Butter Soft against OKC.. I guess that would be the case after comparing to Bulls and Heat D. Also If Dallas digs that deep into the bag to Play Brewer a guy who has been non existent in Playoffs they are already getting better of them cause Dallas is changing rotation.

Clippersfan86
05-26-2011, 01:14 AM
Could of fooled me there Defense looked Butter Soft against OKC.. I guess that would be the case after comparing to Bulls and Heat D. Also If Dallas digs that deep into the bag to Play Brewer a guy who has been non existent in Playoffs they are already getting better of them cause Dallas is changing rotation.

Corey Brewer is an elite perimeter defender who I've been watching since he was a rookie. In his first start for Dallas this year he had 20 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals. Just because Dallas is using Stevenson over him doesn't mean he's not the better player. Brewer if given the chance will wreak havoc on the Miami perimeter mark my words.

I'm laughing out loud BTW at your comment of Dallas having soft defense vs OKC. Marion flat out dominated and shutdown Durant the last 2 games and even old Jason Kidd locked up Westbrook and forced him into very poor numbers of 30 points on 30 shots etc.

Ancient Legend
05-26-2011, 01:15 AM
The Mavs "defense" let OKC outrebound them by 20+ in game 4. Dirk grabs 5 boards per game. You're not pinning all your hopes on Chandler and Marion rotating to every wide open player on Heat.

NBAller
05-26-2011, 01:16 AM
This.

Gtfo

Dallas struggled containing players from getting into the paint. They managed to win this series with veteran leadership and poise in the final minutes. OKC actually outplayed them for much of the series.

Lebron and Dwade are going to go ham on this defense.

Oh and that CB guy will be able to get his at will

Miami in 5

nice acct name brah. anyway the sg n sf will guard them

asdf1990
05-26-2011, 01:17 AM
Not trying to disrespect the defense of the mavs but after seeing the celtics and the bulls in back to back rounds, the mavs defense won't look as tough to the heat. They will be relieved a little bit.

G-train
05-26-2011, 01:18 AM
But how can the Heat stop Dirk and the shooters? I hate this double standered bullshit on this forum when we're talking about the Heat. They ARE NOT a better team than Dallas.
Dallas has the better coach, better role players, beter offense plus they win the matchup battle

J Kidd
Stevenson
Marion(Hopefully Caron if he can get better by June 2nd)
Dirk
Tyson
vs
Bibby(??)
Wade
James
Bosh
Anthony

:facepalm

Lets be real, Dallas in 6.

Really weak analysis. Matchup battle? Get outta here.

Clippersfan86
05-26-2011, 01:21 AM
The Mavs "defense" let OKC outrebound them by 20+ in game 4. Dirk grabs 5 boards per game. You're not pinning all your hopes on Chandler and Marion rotating to every wide open player on Heat.

More important than rebounding though is that they shut down Durant and pretty much everyone else in the series besides Harden.

ImmortalNemesis
05-26-2011, 01:22 AM
I like Dallas and I want them to win but I don't see it happening. Miami's perimeter defense is too good. A major part of Dallas' success has been because of JJ Barea's ability to get into the paint area. He wont' be able to do that against Miami. I'm trying to overrate them but I do think Miami has the best defense in the NBA, even better than Chicago.

Look at what they've done to Rose...but then again, Rose is a perimeter guy. Dirk can shoot and post up as well, so it'll be kinda interesting how Miami defends Dirk. Overall I think LeBron and Wade will be the difference (captain obvious I know). Wade and LeBron will shut down Dallas' guards. I hope I'm wrong because I want Dirk to win his first ring, he deserves it.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 01:24 AM
More important than rebounding though is that they shut down Durant and pretty much everyone else in the series besides Harden.

Durant is not LeBron or Wade.

Collie
05-26-2011, 01:24 AM
The Mavs have something the Bulls lack: someone who can get you a sure 2 points when you need it. That used to be Rose, but he hasn't been that guy during the Conference Finals. Dallas also has good defense, and Chandler is roughly as effective as Noah is in guarding the inside. This team also has better outside shooters than Chicago. They don't have a 2nd scorer the quality of Boozer, but the way guys like Kidd and Marion stepped up, they don't really need it.

I think people are underestimating this Dallas team. They really brutalized Kevin Durant, the league scoring champ for games 3/4/5 and Kidd wasn't blown apart by a speed freak like Westbrook.

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 01:24 AM
Corey Brewer is an elite perimeter defender who I've been watching since he was a rookie. In his first start for Dallas this year he had 20 points, 5 rebounds, 5 assists, 4 steals. Just because Dallas is using Stevenson over him doesn't mean he's not the better player. Brewer if given the chance will wreak havoc on the Miami perimeter mark my words.

I'm laughing out loud BTW at your comment of Dallas having soft defense vs OKC. Marion flat out dominated and shutdown Durant the last 2 games and even old Jason Kidd locked up Westbrook and forced him into very poor numbers of 30 points on 30 shots etc.


U think Dallas is gonna Beat Miami ?

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 01:25 AM
Dallas has a good defense, but Boston and Chicago were top 3 in defense. Miami went off on both of these defenses. Dallas will not stop Miami's offense. Miami's defense is the best and you will not see open looks that often.

Chicago is just straight inept scoring.....

BOS controlled most of the games, having bench chemistry issues was a problem for BOS. BOS had the lead in most of the games for the bench to take it away. Rondo hurt in game 3 really effected the whole team. MIA beat BOS but DAL does what BOS does offensively a lot better.

DAL doesnt D up like BOS or CHI, but they make freethrows,they score easy baskets,they are a bigger team frontcourt similar to Chicago with a much better PF in Dirk.

I think its sad how people discredit who DAL has beaten. Bottom line is DAL dealt with a fast OKC team and kept them in check most of the time with Fast breaking opps.

Clippersfan86
05-26-2011, 01:26 AM
Durant is not LeBron or Wade.

I agree. Not saying it will be quite as effective. That being said.. Marion is going to guard Lebron as well as anyone can do really. Which is to force him into jumpers and hope he's not hitting them. As for Wade.. Stevenson, Brewer and Kidd have the size to play bully ball with Wade. They need to do the same thing as Lebron. Force him into jumpers. Other than that.. how does anyone defend 2 of the top 5 players in the game???

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 01:26 AM
The Mavs have something the Bulls lack: someone who can get you a sure 2 points when you need it. That used to be Rose, but he hasn't been that guy during the Conference Finals. Dallas also has good defense, and Chandler is roughly as effective as Noah is in guarding the inside. This team also has better outside shooters than Chicago. They don't have a 2nd scorer the quality of Boozer, but the way guys like Kidd and Marion stepped up, they don't really need it.

I think people are underestimating this Dallas team. They really brutalized Kevin Durant, the league scoring champ for games 3/4/5 and Kidd wasn't blown apart by a speed freak like Westbrook.


As far as I saw OKC could of won EVERY gm in that series definitely another 2 at least that they flat out couldn't close.. Dallas gets in those situations against Heat its Lights out.

nashwade
05-26-2011, 01:27 AM
Dirk is gonna have to win the game by himself

if he does, and against this Year's Miami team and without a legit 2nd Option - that ranks him very high in my books

he's not going to have his way and drop 40 with Miami's defense though

Clippersfan86
05-26-2011, 01:28 AM
U think Dallas is gonna Beat Miami ?

No clue. I expect an epic 7 game series. Who wins is going to be decided on the defensive end. People are REALLY underrating Dallas' defense right now.

Haymaker
05-26-2011, 01:28 AM
This.

Gtfo

Dallas struggled containing players from getting into the paint. They managed to win this series with veteran leadership and poise in the final minutes. OKC actually outplayed them for much of the series.

Lebron and Dwade are going to go ham on this defense.

Oh and that CB guy will be able to get his at will

Miami in 5 when you get outplayed, you lose. OKC outplayed Dallas a staggering 1 time.

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 01:30 AM
As far as I saw OKC could of won EVERY gm in that series definitely another 2 at least that they flat out couldn't close.. Dallas gets in those situations against Heat its Lights out.

Quite a weak arguement and contradicting what your team has done. "BOS was in control for most the games outside of game 1....Could have forced game 6-7 and possibly won..."

It dont mean shit because MIA beat BOS just like DAL beat OKC. Officiating was scrutinized in 2006, The refs are either going to let contact go or be very careful they dont face another situation

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 01:30 AM
Chicago is just straight inept scoring.....

BOS controlled most of the games, having bench chemistry issues was a problem for BOS. BOS had the lead in most of the games for the bench to take it away. Rondo hurt in game 3 really effected the whole team. MIA beat BOS but DAL does what BOS does offensively a lot better.

DAL doesnt D up like BOS or CHI, but they make freethrows,they score easy baskets,they are a bigger team frontcourt similar to Chicago with a much better PF in Dirk.

I think its sad how people discredit who DAL has beaten. Bottom line is DAL dealt with a fast OKC team and kept them in check most of the time with Fast breaking opps.

OKC scored over 100 points on Dallas in like every game. I agree that Dallas has a good defense, but they are not on the level that Miami has faced the last 2 series. I don't see the Big 3 getting shut down. All of them will score over 20 points a game IMO.

Ancient Legend
05-26-2011, 01:32 AM
Chicago is just straight inept scoring.....

BOS controlled most of the games, having bench chemistry issues was a problem for BOS. BOS had the lead in most of the games for the bench to take it away. Rondo hurt in game 3 really effected the whole team. MIA beat BOS but DAL does what BOS does offensively a lot better.

DAL doesnt D up like BOS or CHI, but they make freethrows,they score easy baskets,they are a bigger team frontcourt similar to Chicago with a much better PF in Dirk.

I think its sad how people discredit who DAL has beaten. Bottom line is DAL dealt with a fast OKC team and kept them in check most of the time with Fast breaking opps.

It's not who the Mavs have beaten, it's the Heat that haven beaten tougher teams, battle tested teams like The Celts and the Bulls, the Heat were underdogs on both of these series.

As for the Mavs, beating a young OKC that didn't show any unity on the sidelines or on the court should not be thought of as a preview of the Heat. Beating the Lakers I'll give you that, they were the champs, but they were coming off 3 straight finals and they just didn't have the hunger anymore. Portland without an injured Roy was just first round fodder, just like the Sixers...

So basically beating Bulls + Celts > Beating Lakers + OKC.

Jimmy2k8
05-26-2011, 01:32 AM
Miami in 4 games.

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 01:33 AM
OKC scored over 100 points on Dallas in like every game. I agree that Dallas has a good defense, but they are not on the level that Miami has faced the last 2 series. I don't see the Big 3 getting shut down. All of them will score over 20 points a game IMO.

Its the western conference, We saw in the allstar game how much beautiful passing,spacing WC teams have compared to grind it out ugly EC basketball.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 01:34 AM
Its the western conference, We saw in the allstar game how much beautiful passing,spacing WC teams have compared to grind it out ugly EC basketball.

Ok but I don't think Dallas can stop the Big 3. Dallas will not have comebacks against the Heat. I just don't see Dallas winning 4 games. I know I may be biased, but Miami has been battle tested against the best of the best.

Derrick
05-26-2011, 01:35 AM
Mavs are not the bulls at D, but they have more than 1 offensive option. It will go to 7.

Lordragoonx1x
05-26-2011, 01:36 AM
Miami in 6. Let dirk get his and stop every one else from scoring. Game

Ancient Legend
05-26-2011, 01:38 AM
Mavs are not the bulls at D, but they have more than 1 offensive option. It will go to 7.

Because of the NBA finals format, if Dallas doesn't win in 5 games, they can hardly win in 7, they (Dallas) would have to win 3 straight games at home, which is very difficult to do against any good team, on the road or at home.

Haymaker
05-26-2011, 01:39 AM
As for the Mavs, beating a young OKC that didn't show any unity on the sidelines or on the court should not be thought of as a preview of the Heat. Beating the Lakers I'll give you that, they were the champs, but they were coming off 3 straight finals and they just didn't have the hunger anymore. Portland without an injured Roy was just first round fodder, just like the Sixers...

So basically beating Bulls + Celts > Beating Lakers + OKC.

I can nitpick the Heat's wins too:

Sixers: 8th seeded team with no experience and no clear franchise player.
Boston: Their core are old, played without Shaq, and the Perkins trade ****ed them.
Chicago: Rose isn't in his prime, lacks a solid 2nd option, it's a young team, not tall, blah blah blah

see?

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 01:40 AM
It's not who the Mavs have beaten, it's the Heat that haven beaten tougher teams, battle tested teams like The Celts and the Bulls, the Heat were underdogs on both of these series.

As for the Mavs, beating a young OKC that didn't show any unity on the sidelines or on the court should not be thought of as a preview of the Heat. Beating the Lakers I'll give you that, they were the champs, but they were coming off 3 straight finals and they just didn't have the hunger anymore. Portland without an injured Roy was just first round fodder, just like the Sixers...

So basically beating Bulls + Celts > Beating Lakers + OKC.


NBA is all about match ups.. DAL gave us fits in reg season,but wed be able to beat the thunder no problem... OKC struggled with DAL but beats LA in 6 game i believe.

Should be no excuses to severely discredit both sides. Portland with a better record in a tougher wid eopen conference suggests they are possibly a bit better than that 76ers team... And if you take away PORT and 76ers, Both teams beat the teams that had their number, and beat young scary teams with less experience than them...

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 01:40 AM
I can nitpick the Heat's wins too:

Sixers: 8th seeded team with no experience and no clear franchise player.
Boston: Their core are old, played without Shaq, and the Perkins trade ****ed them.
Chicago: Rose isn't in his prime, lacks a solid 2nd option, it's a young team, not tall, blah blah blah

see?

Yet all the games were very close except for like 2 of them. Sixers gave us a series, Boston is Boston of course, and Chicago gave us their all.

nashwade
05-26-2011, 01:42 AM
its quite funny people are now equating Westbrook to Wade... if all you people only care about speed, you might as well rank Barea up there with Wade. Oh, how about Barbossa?

we shall see, we shall see

che guevara
05-26-2011, 01:42 AM
Miami's defensive scheme is generally to pack the paint and take away drives and penetration, leaving shooters open and hoping to close out quickly enough to contest. I don't know if that's going to work against the Mavs with all of their shooters. Then there's the matter of stopping Dirk, who hasn't been stopped by anybody so far in the playoffs - Miami was able to bother 2006 Dirk and slow him down significantly, but I don't know if it's possible to do that anymore. We'll see.

On the other hand, I don't see how they'll be able to stop Wade - Kidd, while very crafty, doesn't have the speed to keep up with Wade anymore and Lebron has historically done very well against Marion.

I feel like Dallas has the advantage in this series, but I picked Boston and the Bulls (assuming they don't come back down 3-1) too.

Haymaker
05-26-2011, 01:42 AM
Yet all the games were very close except for like 2 of them. Sixers gave us a series, Boston is Boston of course, and Chicago gave us their all.

But there's no reason to undermine the Heat's and the Mav's playoffs accomplishment. What the other poster was doing is nitpicking. We can do that with almost every team in history.

hawkfan
05-26-2011, 01:44 AM
Congrats Mavs fans who were ISH regulars. :applause:

http://www.loupickney.com/comm/2011/dirk.jpg

If this thread jinx or backfires my apologies. Dallas fans cant beat Philly fans no way. Fact lol

I agree with GOBB.

Congrats to Mavs fans.

Congrats to Dirk - best player in the NBA.
Congrats to Terry - the one bright spot during those dark years with the Hawks. He has become a truly outstanding all-around player, not just scoring - but passing, ballhandling, defense, leadership.
Congrats to Kidd - returning to the Finals in his final few years in the NBA.
Congrats to Barea - dude is a munchkin, but a real talented one.
Congrats to Stevenson - problem child becomes defensive gem.
Congrats to Chandler - one of the best defensive centers in NBA.
Congrats to Haywood - he accepted a bench role and doing so made this team championship worthy.
Congrats to Peja - still has that jumpshot and he definitely has been a huge factor for the Mavs this post-season.
Congrats to Marion - has taken a smaller role in name of winning, and he is now a great all-around player. Very unselfish.
Congrats to Brewer - helped in spot minutes.
Congrats to Cuban - he's back in the Finals. And this time he will win.

amfirst
05-26-2011, 01:46 AM
Bosh, LeBron, and Wade is too much star power for any team. If one guy plays bad another guy can carry the team.

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 01:47 AM
Quite a weak arguement and contradicting what your team has done. "BOS was in control for most the games outside of game 1....Could have forced game 6-7 and possibly won..."

It dont mean shit because MIA beat BOS just like DAL beat OKC. Officiating was scrutinized in 2006, The refs are either going to let contact go or be very careful they dont face another situation


Boston was never in control except for the one gm Miami didnt show up..Every other gm they hung in there until the better team Miami closed the games out..

DMAVS41
05-26-2011, 01:50 AM
On paper, the Mavs don't have much of a chance without home court. The 2-3-2 is just so stupid in my opinion.

Way too big of and advantage for the home team. Its so hard to win 3 games in a row at home. So if you don't do that, you pretty much have to close out on the road.....and thats really hard.

I do think the Mavs have a fighting chance though if its the Heat. We can play zone at times, and we have some players that could give Wade/Lebron/Bosh some problems.

The Heat play an over help style of defense and a pack it in defense. If the Mavs are hitting threes, we could open up a few of the games.

Heart says Mavs in 7.

Head says Heat in 6.

I'm going with my heart.

nbaballllller
05-26-2011, 01:51 AM
when you get outplayed, you lose. OKC outplayed Dallas a staggering 1 time.

I said that they outplayed them for much of the series.

That is true.

Game 4 they outplayed dallas for 43 minutes. Game 5 was the same.

Dallas however severely outplayed them to close out both those games. Thus they won.

People talking about how Marian, brewer and stevenson are going to shut down Miami, yet OKC (with lesser offensive talent) averaged over 101 PPG.

Unfortunately this is not going to be an epic 7 game series like ppl are hoping for. The games will be close and hard fought but its not going past 5. Miami is too good offensively and even better defensively.

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 01:52 AM
I like wade and Im all for him getting another ring, but Dirk and Kidd are who im rooting for and Carlisle.

This finals looks like late90's-early 2000's era team vs. late 2010's

DAL has probably about 3 more seasons of 50 plus before they head into rebuilding.

Its crazy...Im 24 so I grew up emulating these guys.

LurkingFanboy
05-26-2011, 01:54 AM
Wait a second timeout when did Chicago become a "battle tested" team?

First round out for the last two years.

lol if you think the Heat are going to walk all over the Mavs fine but man...some of y'all are doing some stretching also hilarious that Boston + Bulls is >>>> than Lakers + OKC but nobody is talking about the 76ers...

talkingconch
05-26-2011, 01:54 AM
Dirk or Lebron is gonna get there first ring

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 01:54 AM
I said that they outplayed them for much of the series.

That is true.

Game 4 they outplayed dallas for 43 minutes. Game 5 was the same.

Dallas however severely outplayed them to close out both those games. Thus they won.

People talking about how Marian, brewer and stevenson are going to shut down Miami, yet OKC (with lesser offensive talent) averaged over 101 PPG.

Unfortunately this is not going to be an epic 7 game series like ppl are hoping for. The games will be close and hard fought but its not going past 5. Miami is too good offensively and even better defensively.

One thing I know is...

-ISH will crash big time after the finals
-MIA fans will take over as hated LA fans for the next 5-7 years. circle of life i guess

Ancient Legend
05-26-2011, 01:57 AM
Wait a second timeout when did Chicago become a "battle tested" team?

First round out for the last two years.

lol if you think the Heat are going to walk all over the Mavs fine but man...some of y'all are doing some stretching also hilarious that Boston + Bulls is >>>> than Lakers + OKC but nobody is talking about the 76ers...

Because the Sixers were weak, just like the Blazers. no sense in adding both to the comparison.

As for Chicago, they had the #2 defense, and they had Tom Thibodeau who does bring some championship experience as the architect of Boston's defense in recent years. What did Scotty Brooks bring to the table? Thought so.

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 01:58 AM
On paper, the Mavs don't have much of a chance without home court. The 2-3-2 is just so stupid in my opinion.

Way too big of and advantage for the home team. Its so hard to win 3 games in a row at home. So if you don't do that, you pretty much have to close out on the road.....and thats really hard.

I do think the Mavs have a fighting chance though if its the Heat. We can play zone at times, and we have some players that could give Wade/Lebron/Bosh some problems.

The Heat play an over help style of defense and a pack it in defense. If the Mavs are hitting threes, we could open up a few of the games.

Heart says Mavs in 7.

Head says Heat in 6.

I'm going with my heart.


As long as you make smart passes, rebound and maintain offensive flow you can beat the Heat team. BOS just didnt have the gas to continue on but DAL veterans look like they have more than enough collectively.

I think Corey Brewer will be played more unless Peja shoots lights out from 3. Gonna be a great series Dirk looks like a man on a mission from the postgame.

Lordragoonx1x
05-26-2011, 01:59 AM
Heat in 6.

talkingconch
05-26-2011, 02:00 AM
June 2nd I believe.

are u serious, thats a week from tomorrow (if heat close out bulls, that is a 1 week wait)

if both conference finals matchups end in 4 or 5 i think they moved start date to may 31 (which is still a 5 day wait)

PP34Deuce
05-26-2011, 02:00 AM
Because the Sixers were weak, just like the Blazers. no sense in adding both to the comparison.

As for Chicago, they had the #2 defense, and they had Tom Thibodeau who does bring some championship experience as the architect of Boston's defense in recent years. What did Scotty Brooks bring to the table? Thought so.

Brooks seems to do more motivating...
Thibs is great at defensive game planning but hes definitely needing experience

Haymaker
05-26-2011, 02:02 AM
Because the Sixers were weak, just like the Blazers. no sense in adding both to the comparison.

As for Chicago, they had the #2 defense, and they had Tom Thibodeau who does bring some championship experience as the architect of Boston's defense in recent years. What did Scotty Brooks bring to the table? Thought so.
ridiculous! now you're pulling ranks on which coach they beat?? Dallas beat Phil Jackson, the greatest coach of all time. Change your nickname to "nitpicker"

TrueRob
05-26-2011, 02:04 AM
As far as I saw OKC could of won EVERY gm in that series definitely another 2 at least that they flat out couldn't close.. Dallas gets in those situations against Heat its Lights out.

The Mavs are the best team in the league at winning close games. If the Mavs can keep the games close late in the 4th, they have the advantage over the Heat. This is how they snapped the Heat's winning streak on their home floor. Marion grabbed clutch rebounds and Chandler made clutch defensive plays. Dirk had a sub-par game, but the Mavs still won.

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 02:12 AM
are u serious, thats a week from tomorrow (if heat close out bulls, that is a 1 week wait)

if both conference finals matchups end in 4 or 5 i think they moved start date to may 31 (which is still a 5 day wait)

Yah as of right now it's June 2nd but they'll most likely move the start date to an earlier day.

kentatm
05-26-2011, 02:16 AM
https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/K4-c4rHuhL3RQ860tcUlohy0UXMqB7ubCSUziOvm88fHp0jODnN5z QU5a5QXzbtbs7iIprSCsu-P9qNru-jHcTZT9A=s512

alfonsito123
05-26-2011, 02:30 AM
Please.... did the refs make Dirk miss those free throws and make Dallas miss key shots? Did the refs make them miss the 3 pointer in game 6?

blah blah blah:blah just let them play cry baby:cry:

let's go mavs!:cheers:

alfonsito123
05-26-2011, 02:45 AM
This heat fans keeps on bashing us Mavs fans. well let us just see. we mavs fans aren't winning anything yet. its celebration as well as you heat fans celebrate when the heat would close out the bulls.

This finals is so exiting. I really wanted a rematch. the games would be exciting. lets just see who will win.

stop walking about wade, bron, bosh, dirk, kidd or anybody else. lets just see how the match ups go. feel the thrill guys.

King Lebron LBJ
05-26-2011, 02:57 AM
are u serious, thats a week from tomorrow (if heat close out bulls, that is a 1 week wait)

if both conference finals matchups end in 4 or 5 i think they moved start date to may 31 (which is still a 5 day wait)

Yeah if miami win tonight the series starts 31st of may.

alenleomessi
05-26-2011, 03:20 AM
Lebron will have legendary finals performance

matts290
05-26-2011, 05:35 AM
Never thought I would be rooting for the Heat, but damn I sure do despise the Mavs...but the Mavs seriously look unbeatable right now, I watched the entire game tonight and I still don't understand how they won that game, take away the scoreboard and it look liked the Thunder were handling them the entire game.

creepingdeath
05-26-2011, 05:50 AM
Make it happen, Dallas!

LurkingFanboy
05-26-2011, 07:40 AM
Because the Sixers were weak, just like the Blazers. no sense in adding both to the comparison.

As for Chicago, they had the #2 defense, and they had Tom Thibodeau who does bring some championship experience as the architect of Boston's defense in recent years. What did Scotty Brooks bring to the table? Thought so.
The Sixers are weak and they water down Miami's path to the Finals is the only reason why they are removed from the conversation had the Heat beaten a Blazer level team in the first round I'm extremely sure that'd be dumped onto the pile.
ok Chicago had a good coach awesome and the MVP also awesome. Again where did this notion that Chicago is battle tested come from? They have one more series total in the last few years compared to the Thunder. The Blazers were the one lower seed team on both sides East and West everybody had pegged as the uh oh you don't wanna play these dudes. IMO Miami beating Chicago is more impressive than beating OKC. Dallas beating the Lakers (even with issues :rolleyes: ) is more impressive than beating an old hurt Celtics team. I mean if we are going to start qualifying stuff that cuts both ways.

Meh why bother "Mavs have no chance the mere site of the Heat will turn the Mavs bones to chalk and they'll collapse in upon themselves, and DWade will dunk from the mid court stripe in celebration.

Eat Like A Bosh
05-26-2011, 11:01 AM
Congratz Mavs! It's time to shock the world lol!
I know a lot of people that actually picked against the Mavs in all the first 3 rounds.
I picked against them with Portland and LA. But in the WCF I instantly picked them over OKC.

Funnyfuka
05-26-2011, 11:03 AM
Dirk is white thus being overlooked and underated even if he puts godlike stats constantly. It s mavs last chance for a chip. They know it. Dirk cant dream of a better supporting cast than he has now. It will be up to terry, marion, chandler, barea, kidd to be worth their first option. We all know dirk will be ready and deliver as he always does.

It s going to be interesting finals for once, finally some refreshing change -even if it's a rematch somehow-. Heat will be promoted as the childish spoiled vilains and the mavs as the good ole hard working veterans deserving it more than anyone else.

I actually cannot predict a clear outcome, which is really exciting. I guess odds are a bit higher for the heat due to the mix of physical youth and experience of their big 3 . The home court advantage will also help them for sure.

Nero Tulip
05-26-2011, 11:15 AM
Miami has a shitty offense, and will be easy to stop. They rely on their defense to win, but can't stop the Mavs on the perimeter.

Mavs win, easily.

Lebron23
05-26-2011, 11:31 AM
Miami has a shitty offense, and will be easy to stop. They rely on their defense to win, but can't stop the Mavs on the perimeter.

Mavs win, easily.


How many Heat games have you watched in the playoffs? Miami's ppg's were down in the playoffs because they played 2 of the best defensive teams in the NBA.

Heat in 6 games. Dirk is playing the best basketball of his NBA Career, but at the end of the day Two Superstars are still better than One. That's why Shaq and Kobe's Lakers had always perform better than Prime Duncan's Spurs in the playoffs.

HylianNightmare
05-26-2011, 11:38 AM
they match up well untill you take into account the whistles

SebasMiamiFan
05-26-2011, 11:40 AM
Miami has a shitty offense, and will be easy to stop. They rely on their defense to win, but can't stop the Mavs on the perimeter.

Mavs win, easily.
:facepalm

clayton
05-26-2011, 01:27 PM
Heat: Too fast and too furious.

ChandlerParsons
05-26-2011, 03:16 PM
Well
One game Dirk is gonna get a lot of BS Freethrows ( on jump shots -.- )
Another game, Heat are gonna get a lot of BS freethrows.
So.... IDK

LA KB24
05-26-2011, 04:16 PM
Hate to say it, but Heat in 5.

King Lebron LBJ
05-26-2011, 04:45 PM
Miami has a shitty offense, and will be easy to stop. They rely on their defense to win, but can't stop the Mavs on the perimeter.

Mavs win, easily.
:roll: :roll:

unbreakable
05-26-2011, 04:54 PM
Heat in 6 games. Dirk is playing the best basketball of his NBA Career, but at the end of the day Two Superstars are still better than One. That's why Shaq and Kobe's Lakers had always perform better than Prime Duncan's Spurs in the playoffs.

not ALWAYS. Spurs beat the Lakers twice in 7 game series' including a sweep.

Mavs in 6.:violin:

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 05:04 PM
I agree with GOBB.

Congrats to Mavs fans.

Congrats to Dirk - best player in the NBA.
Congrats to Terry - the one bright spot during those dark years with the Hawks. He has become a truly outstanding all-around player, not just scoring - but passing, ballhandling, defense, leadership.
Congrats to Kidd - returning to the Finals in his final few years in the NBA.
Congrats to Barea - dude is a munchkin, but a real talented one.
Congrats to Stevenson - problem child becomes defensive gem.
Congrats to Chandler - one of the best defensive centers in NBA.
Congrats to Haywood - he accepted a bench role and doing so made this team championship worthy.
Congrats to Peja - still has that jumpshot and he definitely has been a huge factor for the Mavs this post-season.
Congrats to Marion - has taken a smaller role in name of winning, and he is now a great all-around player. Very unselfish.
Congrats to Brewer - helped in spot minutes.
Congrats to Cuban - he's back in the Finals. And this time he will win.


I stopped reading right there.. FYI- in the future put the stupid stuff on the list to the Bottom so people will at least read the whole thing..

Kingwillball
05-26-2011, 05:06 PM
Miami has a shitty offense, and will be easy to stop. They rely on their defense to win, but can't stop the Mavs on the perimeter.

Mavs win, easily.


Amateur Hour right here.. Learn the Gm rookie :facepalm

pegasus
05-26-2011, 05:12 PM
I think the Mavs have all the right tools to beat the Heat. People are forgetting that Nowitzki didn't only rape Gasol on the offensive end, but also totally stopped him on the defensive end. Yes, Gasol was not there mentally, but he really tried to put a move on Nowitzki several times, but he just got denied by a great 1-on-1 defense. So, I can see him slow Bosh down, too. Plus, if Bosh guards him, he may quickly get him into a foul trouble.

I also think that Marion/Brewer on Lebron, and Stevenson/Kidd on Wade will work to a degree.

If Nowitzki can play like the best player of the series, and the refs don't function as a part of the Heat bench, I see the Mavs winning this in 6. Only potential problem is their lack of rebounding. They cannot give Miami too many second chances. The Mavs beat them in rebounding in the two regular season games, but the last couple of OKC games were alarming.

trig
05-26-2011, 05:55 PM
marion will guard lebron
who guarded wade in the regular season? was it kidd?
Dirk should dominate Bosh
Will Peja contribute? Korver has been garbage vs miami because they attack him whenever they can

G-train
05-26-2011, 06:58 PM
This is what will happen: Dirk will average 25, Terry will have two 25 points games that the Mavs will win, and the other roles players will have minimal impact.

Heat 4-2.

alfonsito123
05-26-2011, 08:14 PM
Both teams are equally matched up. Both had their own unique edge. Just feel the thrill of the games. I don't want to give predictions in who is gonna win. What I care about is the thrill of the games. How are they gonna match up against the best offensive players of the league and how are they going to beat them.

This is going to be a physical series. Expect the unexpected

LA_Showtime
05-26-2011, 09:26 PM
i just find it amusing that some fans argue it's dirk and a bunch of scrubs, and then say other teams are more talented, despite those players not playing well at all. terry has been a monster this postseason.

catch24
05-27-2011, 12:09 AM
Heat gonna feel the pain; Dirkules is coming!

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 12:12 AM
marion will guard lebron
who guarded wade in the regular season? was it kidd?
Dirk should dominate Bosh
Will Peja contribute? Korver has been garbage vs miami because they attack him whenever they can


Dirk cant cover Bosh.. so there is a flip side to that coin

R.H.C.P.
05-27-2011, 12:16 AM
Dirk cant cover Bosh.. so there is a flip side to that coin

why not just have chandler guard bosh and dirk take joel?

BarberSchool
05-27-2011, 12:18 AM
why not just have chandler guard bosh and dirk take joel?Correct. this is what Carlisle will do, and it will work fine. Anthony doesn't weigh noticably more than Dirk.

comerb
05-27-2011, 12:23 AM
why not just have chandler guard bosh and dirk take joel?

If Chandler has to close out on Bosh at 15-20ft, Wade and Lebron are going to get into the lane awful easy, with Dirk as the only deterrent...

You could make Bosh beat you with jumpers, but considering how deadly he has been in the playoffs, I'm not sure that's a good idea.

I could also see Anythony getting a lot of tips and second chance opportunities with Dirk (failing to) block him out.

comerb
05-27-2011, 12:26 AM
This heat fans keeps on bashing us Mavs fans. well let us just see. we mavs fans aren't winning anything yet. its celebration as well as you heat fans celebrate when the heat would close out the bulls.

This finals is so exiting. I really wanted a rematch. the games would be exciting. lets just see who will win.

stop walking about wade, bron, bosh, dirk, kidd or anybody else. lets just see how the match ups go. feel the thrill guys.

Nobody with any sense is counting out Dirk, Heat fan or otherwise.

Day La Ghetto
05-27-2011, 12:28 AM
-lots of great outside shooting from the mavs is something heat haven't seen

-wasnt posey the guys the put on dirk to slow him down the best?

-please play james jones, stop playing mike miller PLEASEEEEE

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 12:30 AM
Correct. this is what Carlisle will do, and it will work fine. Anthony doesn't weigh noticably more than Dirk.


Haslem will play Starter Minutes So U cant leave him like Anthony.

comerb
05-27-2011, 12:31 AM
The Mavs have something the Bulls lack: someone who can get you a sure 2 points when you need it. That used to be Rose, but he hasn't been that guy during the Conference Finals. Dallas also has good defense, and Chandler is roughly as effective as Noah is in guarding the inside. This team also has better outside shooters than Chicago. They don't have a 2nd scorer the quality of Boozer, but the way guys like Kidd and Marion stepped up, they don't really need it.

I think people are underestimating this Dallas team. They really brutalized Kevin Durant, the league scoring champ for games 3/4/5 and Kidd wasn't blown apart by a speed freak like Westbrook.

No knock on Durant, but he isn't half the player that Lebron is. If you cheat on Lebron with doubles, he'll carve you up with smart passes and strong moves to the rim.

But I'm certainly not counting Dallas out, they are playing great ball so far, and they are desperate to win a ring.

One thing for certain... The Heat need more consistency out of Wade to win a ring.

sagr32
05-27-2011, 12:33 AM
This Match up kind of reminds me of the 08 Celtics-Lakers Finals
The Mavs(Lakers) are coming in playing some great Offense and Good Defense While the Heat(Celtics) are coming in playing great Defense and good Offense

catch24
05-27-2011, 12:45 AM
This Match up kind of reminds me of the 08 Celtics-Lakers Finals
The Mavs(Lakers) are coming in playing some great Offense and Good Defense While the Heat(Celtics) are coming in playing great Defense and good Offense

That '08 squad didn't play teams like the Blazers, Lakers, (back-to-back defending champs), and an upcoming athletic-freakshow-powerhouse in OKC. They'll be more than ready, and unlike the Lakers in '08, they're tougher and have more experience.

3zazer1
05-27-2011, 12:47 AM
This Match up kind of reminds me of the 08 Celtics-Lakers Finals
The Mavs(Lakers) are coming in playing some great Offense and Good Defense While the Heat(Celtics) are coming in playing great Defense and good Offense
1) This years Mavs are wayyyyy better than the 08 Lakers
2)Dirk wont have a problem guarding Bosh. He'll be so tired from chasing Dirk around.
3)Bench will mean alot in this series. I love how everybody is writing off the bench of the Mavs
4)Is Butler playing? I hope he does!

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 12:59 AM
That '08 squad didn't play teams like the Blazers, Lakers, (back-to-back defending champs), and an upcoming athletic-freakshow-powerhouse in OKC. They'll be more than ready, and unlike the Lakers in '08, they're tougher and have more experience.


No No No.. Heat Defense will Ratchet it up like NOTHING Dallas has seen this postseason.. AND Westbrook and Durant are NOT Wade and James..plus U have a 20 and 10 Bosh to throw into the Mix..

alfonsito123
05-27-2011, 01:00 AM
Nobody with any sense is counting out Dirk, Heat fan or otherwise.

I really didn't see the connection of my message to your reply

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 01:01 AM
1) This years Mavs are wayyyyy better than the 08 Lakers
2)Dirk wont have a problem guarding Bosh. He'll be so tired from chasing Dirk around.
3)Bench will mean alot in this series. I love how everybody is writing off the bench of the Mavs
4)Is Butler playing? I hope he does!


Heat just beat your Bulls now your HOPING Dallas can take them out.. Sore Loser just an FYI- Bulls look better if Miami wins than if they lose...in case U care

3zazer1
05-27-2011, 01:04 AM
Heat just beat your Bulls now your HOPING Dallas can take them out.. Sore Loser just an FYI- Bulls look better if Miami wins than if they lose...in case U care
Dude, LOOK AT MY ****ING LAST POSTS!!!!!!! Enough said

3zazer1
05-27-2011, 01:14 AM
Heat just beat your Bulls now your HOPING Dallas can take them out..
Whose hoping. I know they can take them out. Read my damn comment on the second page.


Sore Loser
just an FYI- Bulls look better if Miami wins than if they lose...in case U care

Judging by your name, you are another Lebron homer. :applause:
Seeing that you really didn't dispute me with any logic other than the fact that "I'ma sore loser."
P.S. just to point out http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showthread.php?t=224315&page=2


As True Bulls fan, let me say that we ****ed up towards the end. It was all our faults, no excuses.


We'll be better next year though

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 01:16 AM
Dude, LOOK AT MY ****ING LAST POSTS!!!!!!! Enough said


I looked at your Posts.. Bosh will not be stopped, people acting like Dirk is gonna Rape Him not happening. Do U really Think Dirk is gonna average 30+ and Bosh gonna average half that ? Who Else is gonna score 20+ for Dallas ? Cause the Heat have 3 guys who can. Just saying..

PP34Deuce
05-27-2011, 01:18 AM
This Match up kind of reminds me of the 08 Celtics-Lakers Finals
The Mavs(Lakers) are coming in playing some great Offense and Good Defense While the Heat(Celtics) are coming in playing great Defense and good Offense

Actually MAVS are more like that Celtics team. People acting liek they didnt say LA would win. Everyone but Celtic fans said LA was going to win because they were younger and had best closer in the game, with athletic bigs.

I could see DAL using Corey Brewer unless Peja lights it up

3zazer1
05-27-2011, 01:20 AM
I looked at your Posts.. Bosh will not be stopped, people acting like Dirk is gonna Rape Him not happening. Do U really Think Dirk is gonna average 30+ and Bosh gonna average half that ? Who Else is gonna score 20+ for Dallas ? Cause the Heat have 3 guys who can. Just saying..

:applause:

Dirk will kill Bosh, look at the numbers, look at there past games against each other. Marion can go out and get 20+ , Kid can notch a couple of 3's, Terry can get 20.

Alonzo Magic
05-27-2011, 01:27 AM
:applause:

Dirk will kill Bosh, look at the numbers, look at there past games against each other. Marion can go out and get 20+ , Kid can notch a couple of 3's, Terry can get 20.

Head to Head last 7 years:

Bosh:
22/10 48%fg

Nowitzki
25/8 50%fg

Oh yeah, Bosh got murdered. :rolleyes:

Ol Dirty Bastard
05-27-2011, 01:29 AM
Would love if Dallas came out playing like game 4 of the LA series.

Non stop 3's going in!

catch24
05-27-2011, 01:33 AM
No No No.. Heat Defense will Ratchet it up like NOTHING Dallas has seen this postseason.. AND Westbrook and Durant are NOT Wade and James..plus U have a 20 and 10 Bosh to throw into the Mix..

Heat defense won't have anything on a team that passes and share the ball like a throwback 80's team.

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 01:34 AM
:applause:

Dirk will kill Bosh, look at the numbers, look at there past games against each other. Marion can go out and get 20+ , Kid can notch a couple of 3's, Terry can get 20.


Notwitski cant stop Bosh.. That is why he is not the best player on the court..He is a one trick pony.. Fadeaway off of One leg pony. Soft on the Boards and on D.. Bosh Just Destroyed a Very good Bulls Front Line(look at his stats for the series) and will be a huge difference maker once again. Marion Will not get U 20..He scores on garbage Plays, Put backs ect and if lebron is Guarding Him most of the Gm will lucky to score half that. Terry can get a 20 point gm maybe once but if He gets Hot heat will lock him down after that make someone else beat them. Im sure Kidd will hit a couple 3's here and there but Dirk will Need to average over 30 ppg this series AND Have one other Player giving U 20.. Heat not gonna let that happen.Either they will make Dirk beat them by himself OR make everyone else beat them. Heat are the better team and will win the series.

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 01:38 AM
Heat defense won't have anything on a team that passes and share the ball like a throwback 80's team.


Dallas will not be lighting scoreboard up my friend especially not down the stretch of games. Also Dallas D will be getting Punished if Wade and Lebron get into attack mode.. I saw OKC get to the Rim pretty easy last gm so unless they figure some stuff out a team with 3 dominant players is going to beat a team with 1 Dominant player..it is simple math.

Alonzo Magic
05-27-2011, 01:42 AM
Notwitski cant stop Bosh..

Bosh averaged 9 Freethrows a game against Dallas when he was in TDot.

King Lebron LBJ
05-27-2011, 02:19 AM
The fact dirk is going to need to defend bosh could be his downfall. Dirk is going to need to do so much in this series for Dallas to win. Goin to be great to see Dallas defense considering who we hav faced the last two rounds

ThaSwagg3r
05-27-2011, 02:24 AM
The fact dirk is going to need to defend bosh could be his downfall. Dirk is going to need to do so much in this series for Dallas to win. Goin to be great to see Dallas defense considering who we hav faced the last two rounds
Or they'll just have Tyson Chandler guard Bosh. :confusedshrug: After all Chandler is a defensive specialist.

King Lebron LBJ
05-27-2011, 02:30 AM
Or they'll just have Tyson Chandler guard Bosh. :confusedshrug: After all Chandler is a defensive specialist.
They might but wouldn't be wise. Chandler is too slow to keep up with bosh on the perimeter and that would just open the lane for lebron and wade

Kurosawa0
05-27-2011, 02:48 AM
Or they'll just have Tyson Chandler guard Bosh. :confusedshrug: After all Chandler is a defensive specialist.

Chandler's much more of a post defender. That's one of the problems Miami presents with Bosh and LeBron/Haslem up front; you're bigs have to guard the perimeter. It might really hurt Dallas not having a low post threat. It's going to allow Miami to keep their Haslem, Bosh and Anthony rotation up front.

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 02:54 AM
Chandler's much more of a post defender. That's one of the problems Miami presents with Bosh and LeBron/Haslem up front; you're bigs have to guard the perimeter. It might really hurt Dallas not having a low post threat. It's going to allow Miami to keep their Haslem, Bosh and Anthony rotation up front.


Yup, Chandler/Haywood are not huge offensive threats So Bosh can actually Guard one of them while Anthony and Haslem guard Dirk and Vice versa.. With Bosh and Haslem both Playing both can knock down Shots so Chandler will be pulled away from basket.

King Lebron LBJ
05-27-2011, 03:01 AM
Yup, Chandler/Haywood are not huge offensive threats So Bosh can actually Guard one of them while Anthony and Haslem guard Dirk and Vice versa.. With Bosh and Haslem both Playing both can knock down Shots so Chandler will be pulled away from basket.
Dallas is so good on the perimeter and that's part of why they are here and there is nobody better at defending the perimeter than miami

TheAnchorman
05-27-2011, 03:17 AM
I looked at your Posts.. Bosh will not be stopped, people acting like Dirk is gonna Rape Him not happening. Do U really Think Dirk is gonna average 30+ and Bosh gonna average half that ? Who Else is gonna score 20+ for Dallas ? Cause the Heat have 3 guys who can. Just saying..
Even now there are still people that are finding excuses to rip on Bosh even tho he has showed up this playoffs... pathetic

stephanieg
05-27-2011, 03:27 AM
Heat have the all important home court, the refs, and 3 of the best 4 players in the series. It'd be a major fail if they didn't win. The only way Dallas can win is if Dirk averages 30/15 or if the bench lights it up again like they did against LA. The latter is actually pretty possible since the Miami bench is so putrid.

Do Dallas fans REALLY trust Terry? That's gotta be a little scary.

To me the thing is that Dirk and LeBron have been 'clutch' except they've been making garbage long 2s that are just really terrible shots. Both really lucky. Someone's luck has to end.

BigTicket
05-27-2011, 03:34 AM
Looks like the NBA doesn't really care to attract foreign fans, because this finals schedule makes it all but impossible to watch.

All the games are late (8-9pm ET = 2-3am in Europe), and they're all on work nights (no games on friday or saturday).

DMAVS41
05-27-2011, 04:08 AM
Heat have the all important home court, the refs, and 3 of the best 4 players in the series. It'd be a major fail if they didn't win. The only way Dallas can win is if Dirk averages 30/15 or if the bench lights it up again like they did against LA. The latter is actually pretty possible since the Miami bench is so putrid.

Do Dallas fans REALLY trust Terry? That's gotta be a little scary.

To me the thing is that Dirk and LeBron have been 'clutch' except they've been making garbage long 2s that are just really terrible shots. Both really lucky. Someone's luck has to end.

No. But this current team has proven to be able to win without Terry doing anything.

Terry has shot under 42% 8 times in the playoffs this year. The mavs are 6-2 in those games.

He scored 13 or less in 7 of those 8 games.

This team doesn't need Terry to play great every night. Thank god, because he can't do it.

King Lebron LBJ
05-27-2011, 04:12 AM
Looks like the NBA doesn't really care to attract foreign fans, because this finals schedule makes it all but impossible to watch.

All the games are late (8-9pm ET = 2-3am in Europe), and they're all on work nights (no games on friday or saturday).
Always been the same

TheAnchorman
05-27-2011, 04:27 AM
Looks like the NBA doesn't really care to attract foreign fans, because this finals schedule makes it all but impossible to watch.

All the games are late (8-9pm ET = 2-3am in Europe), and they're all on work nights (no games on friday or saturday).
And the NBA should bend over backwards for those fans when its main audience is in America? There would be a riot if games started at 5-6 ET,the western timezones would freak out.

2swift4u
05-27-2011, 04:32 AM
And the NBA should bend over backwards for those fans when its main audience is in America? There would be a riot if games started at 5-6 ET,the western timezones would freak out.

of course not, but how about a game on fr/sa night or sunday afternoon!?

anyway I'm looking forward to the finals.. it's gonna be either LBJ's or Dirk's first ring. two guys that definitely deserve one!

chazzy
05-27-2011, 04:57 AM
Why are people still talking about the Mavs as if they're a soft defensive team? I could understand in the beginning of the year but.. now? They've been playing solid team defense all year.

ODEN>DURANT
05-27-2011, 05:55 AM
Mavs in 6. No one is stopping Dirk, and the Mavs bench will light it up.

#LetsGoMavs

3zazer1
05-27-2011, 07:53 AM
Head to Head last 7 years:

Bosh:
22/10 48%fg

Nowitzki
25/8 50%fg

Oh yeah, Bosh got murdered. :rolleyes:

When I said look at games, I mean wins this year but nice job.:applause:

He still will prove to be a liability though.

He'll probally be nervous on Tuesday, just like Lebron was.

And still, looking at the numbers you pointed out to me it seemed as if he was unable to guard Dirk

Plus, on statscube, it seems as the Heat's numbers go up when he's on the bench

http://www.nba.com/statscube/player-vs-player.html#Dirk-Nowitzki-vs-Chris-Bosh|1717,2547;season=r


Also Dirks numbers vs the heat

Nov. 27, 2010: 22 points (9-23 FGs, 1-5 3FGs, 3-3 FTs)
Dec. 20, 2010: 26 Points (that was when they were on a win streak)

So again, looking at the numbers, it seems as if Bosh wont be able to guard Dirk.
Just like Gasol
Just Like Collison and Ibaka
Bosh Will fall

JohnnySic
05-27-2011, 07:59 AM
I like the Mavs in this as long as the refs are anywhere in the area of fair. As desperate as he is to get LeBron a ring, I honestly dont think Stern can risk too much tomfoolery going into the potential lockout - a lot of eyes will be watching.

#1SportsFan86
05-27-2011, 08:22 AM
I like the Mavs in this as long as the refs are anywhere in the area of fair. As desperate as he is to get LeBron a ring, I honestly dont think Stern can risk too much tomfoolery going into the potential lockout - a lot of eyes will be watching.

If he does then expect a long lock out because the owners are gonna be pushing for a hard cap to stop these super teams.

King Lebron LBJ
05-27-2011, 09:45 AM
Mavs in 6. No one is stopping Dirk, and the Mavs bench will light it up.

#LetsGoMavs
Funny how we hear how unstoppable dirk is and Miami won stop him yet Dallas to stop lebron and wade? It really is funny. Miami like the last series will have 3 of the 4 best players in the series plus far better defense and are a better rebounding team

Sakkreth
05-27-2011, 09:45 AM
This is going to be so legendary when u think about how good was Dirk and LeBron in the postseason.

Optimus Prime
05-27-2011, 09:50 AM
Ever since the Lakers got bounced, this is the Finals I've been hoping for. This will be a good consolation prize. A rematch of the insane 2006 Finals! Dirk's chance for redemption! "The Big 3's" chance for validation!

I predict an awesome series. It's going to be tough to pick a winner. I could see either team winning in 7. :cheers:

nashwade
05-27-2011, 10:09 AM
the Mavs have not faced defense like Miami or Bulls this Playoffs

dynasty1978
05-27-2011, 10:34 AM
I have Miami in 7 by virtue of the 2-3-2 format. I hate to make FTA's an issue, but is there any doubt that Dirk and co. is gonna come on the short end of the stick in that department? I think the high FTA's for #41 are at an end.

NBASTATMAN
05-27-2011, 10:37 AM
I agree. Heat sweep.


you crazy.. More like the Mavs in 4 or 5..

SebasMiamiFan
05-27-2011, 11:49 AM
you crazy.. More like the Mavs in 4 or 5..

I don't see that either AT ALL. :lol

KokeAyne
05-27-2011, 11:50 AM
With the way the 2006 finals were rigged I have a hard time believing it will be any different this time around. I can already seeing Wade going off and shooting a suspiciously high amount of free throws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsiDgR0nx5I

ErhnamDjinn
05-27-2011, 11:51 AM
I don't see that either AT ALL. :lol
I dont see a sweep either side, this is going to end in atleast 6 or 7 games, my heart says Mavs but I believe the Heat will win.

SebasMiamiFan
05-27-2011, 11:52 AM
I dont see a sweep either side, this is going to end in atleast 6 or 7 games, my heart says Mavs but I believe the Heat will win.

Yah it's definitely going to be a 6 or 7 game series.

Kingwillball
05-27-2011, 12:00 PM
you crazy.. More like the Mavs in 4 or 5..


Your Crazy obviously if U really think Mavs in 4 or 5..

chips93
05-27-2011, 05:44 PM
With the way the 2006 finals were rigged I have a hard time believing it will be any different this time around. I can already seeing Wade going off and shooting a suspiciously high amount of free throws.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsiDgR0nx5I


i can already see people making excuses

rosonviyavong
05-27-2011, 06:31 PM
Exactly the finals I wanted because I love rematches and theres no way OKC could of beat the HEAT but the MAVS can

tontoz
05-27-2011, 07:35 PM
I am jumping on the Mavs bandwagon. I think they can and should beat the heat.

kaiiu
05-27-2011, 07:45 PM
http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2011/146/d/0/2011_nba_finals_wallpaper_by_rhurst-d3hbisr.jpg

hawkfan
05-27-2011, 08:54 PM
the Mavs have not faced defense like Miami or Bulls this Playoffs

Who's stopping JJ on the Heat?

Samurai Swoosh
05-27-2011, 09:40 PM
I can't have the Mavs win. I lived in Dallas for 7 years, and there is nothing more annoying than Dallas fans. All my buddies down there will give me so much crap if they win. LeBron, Wade, Bosh ... you better win this thing. LeBron, get the monkey off your back and solidify your greatness. Wade, do the hometown proud and actually BALL this series. Like you did against the Celtics, and the same way you bent Dallas over in 2006. Bosh? You're going home now, play accordingly and be the x-factor. Everyone keeps overlooking you, keep proving them wrong. You've been playing better than Pau Gasol did the past two years for the Lakers, and you're the 3rd option on your team. THATS crazy stacked right there.

:oldlol:

Oositdwn
05-27-2011, 10:22 PM
Dallas in 5/6 that is all

Lordragoonx1x
05-27-2011, 10:51 PM
Miami in 6 but I will not be surprised if they win in 5.

Jasper
05-27-2011, 11:18 PM
What it may come down to Corey B. vs D-Wade :no:

Dirk offense vs Lebron defending him :no:

I don't like the 2 3 2 set up fro the finals.

think it will go 6 or 7 ... both teams have players that deserve a ring.

BallsOut
05-27-2011, 11:27 PM
What it may come down to Corey B. vs D-Wade :no:

Dirk offense vs Lebron defending him :no:

I don't like the 2 3 2 set up fro the finals.

think it will go 6 or 7 ... both teams have players that deserve a ring.

Which players from the Heat deserve a ring? Mike Bibby, and that's probably it.

Kurosawa0
05-27-2011, 11:39 PM
Which players from the Heat deserve a ring? Mike Bibby, and that's probably it.

LeBron deserves a ring as much as anyone in the league.

blacknapalm
05-27-2011, 11:58 PM
dallas is going to have to score the majority of their points on spot up shots, put backs and post ups. mix in some pick n' rolls. i say this because dallas was the #1 team in spots ups in the playoffs (1.19 PPP) and #2 in post-ups (1.01 PPP). terry has been money more or less on catch and shoots in the playoffs.

i don't think you can stop dirk the way he is playing. you can just make it hard for him. only dirk can stop dirk. i pretty much expect him to average 30-35 PPG in this series.

i think rebounds is a huge factor since both teams are pretty even there. mavs bench is far better. what makes miami dangerous is their speed on the perimeter. they can close out on shooters in the blink of an eye, but dallas moves the ball so well.

it should be a good series. dallas hasn't seen a defense like miami and miami hasn't seen an offense like dallas. dallas has 3-4 guys that can legitimately go for 20+ on any given night. i also think their defense is a bit underrated. it might not be a top 5 D but i'd reckon it's top 10. i also expect them to mix in some zone to force lebron and wade into jump shooting. though the way lebron is shooting right now, that might not be too smart. as long as they don't get gashed on the pick n' roll, dallas should compete.

i want dallas to win but miami definitely has firepower. if miller can contribute like he did vs. chicago, that might be the tipping point. i just think dallas plays more as a team and can get points from multiple areas so i'm going with them in 7. it's a tough call though.

OKCThunderUP
05-28-2011, 01:35 AM
Carlisle > Spoelstra
Dallas roleplayers > Miami roleplayers
Dallas bench > Miami bench
Dallas experience > Miami experience

Mavs are going to hate**** Miami in the Finals.

talkingconch
05-28-2011, 02:19 AM
If Miami wins the first two games at home, they will win it all on Dallas home floor

Expecting in 5

or, if they split the first two, 6 game series.

but idk how dallas is gonna come out, one of these teams HAS to lose lol

Heat007
05-28-2011, 03:03 AM
Miami's should just play Dirk one-on-one and concentrate on shutting down everyone else. Let Dirk get his and make the rest suffer.

Easy win for the Heat if they do that.


Miami's D is so lightning quick on defense that the Mavs will greatly struggle offensively with that game plan.


The Mavs have not seen this intense playoff-mode Miami defense all year.

And we know Miami will score a lot of points on them just because of the overall top-level talent of Wade/James/Bosh - and we're a great perimeter shooting team too -- Miami was 3rd in the NBA for FG% this year beyond 10 feet ;-)

Kingwillball
05-28-2011, 03:43 AM
Carlisle > Spoelstra
Dallas roleplayers > Miami roleplayers
Dallas bench > Miami bench
Dallas experience > Miami experience

Mavs are going to hate**** Miami in the Finals.


I will take this one at a time.. Coaching Don't know both are doing a good job, Dallas has More Role players and less Stars than Miami so I guess that is right, Miami first 3 off the bench as good as Dallas, Doubt Dallas is going 10 deep this series. Experience again pretty Even Dallas does not have edge.

Samurai Swoosh
05-28-2011, 03:59 AM
LeBron deserves a ring as much as anyone in the league.
Absolutely ...

Especially if he puts the straight jacket on Dirk the way he did in the 2008 Olympics.

People forget, that's the best defense I've ever seen played on Dirk.

And hopefully he has some energy to do this on the Germans as well. Captain America style.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84tPm6yJX04&feature=channel_video_title