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dyna
05-29-2011, 09:07 PM
LeBron Rates Dirk's Fadeaway As Second Most Unstoppable Shot In League History
May 29, 2011 3:44 PM EDT


Dirk Nowitzki's now famous fading jumper on one leg that helped the Mavs beat the Thunder impressed the Heat.

"That is something new. He has always made some awkward shots for a big guy, but that one-legged shot that is pretty much un-guardable," said Heat forward Udonis Haslem, who had success guarding Nowitzki in 2006 when the Heat beat the Mavericks to win the title.

"Probably the most unstoppable shot ever is the sky hook. I guess you put Dirk second," James said. "You have a seven-footer fading away off one leg. There is no one that can block that shot."


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-miami-heat-news-notes-0529-20110528,0,4023942.story?track=rss

:confusedshrug:

IGOTGAME
05-29-2011, 09:08 PM
It is just good PR to say that.

Theoo
05-29-2011, 09:08 PM
a jk post : man there frethrow shot is unstoppable shot because if you do a guarding to free throw shot that is illegal to NBA basketball = unstoppable :roll: :roll: ok a no more jk post :

i think i agree

chris2010
05-29-2011, 09:09 PM
you could probably make that argument. unless you count a shaq post-up dunk as a shot.

Mr. Jabbar
05-29-2011, 09:17 PM
Lefraud is wise to place the sky hook as #1.

STATUTORY
05-29-2011, 09:18 PM
Lebron is just hyping the shot so he has a ready made excuse when he gets torched by Dirk and gets extra credit if he stops Dirk sllightly.

good PR move

stephanieg
05-29-2011, 09:24 PM
With the crab dribble shot being #1.

Toni
05-29-2011, 09:31 PM
Pretty sure it goes;

1. Free Throw
2. Sky Hook
3. Dirk Fade

As most unstoppable shots :D

FourthTenor
05-29-2011, 09:36 PM
With the crab dribble shot being #1.


lol just about anyone that drives the lane does a crab dribble, its just that lebron is pretty much the biggest guy in the league with that kind of handles so its the most obvious on him.

you dont think ginobili or derrick rose crab dribble? i dun seen 'em do it.

stephanieg
05-29-2011, 09:38 PM
you dont think ginobili or derrick rose crab dribble?

No...they travel. LeBron crab dribbles. This was settled in 2007.

PHILA
05-29-2011, 09:54 PM
Right behind the "Dipper Dunk".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycO_MYuF89k#t=7m08s




http://i55.tinypic.com/2pyt8af.jpg

inclinerator
05-29-2011, 11:57 PM
dunks shouldnt be count as unstoppable moves

RoseCity07
05-30-2011, 12:13 AM
Most unblockable.

I think Rasheed Wallace's fade away jumper is up there. No one could stop that in his prime. It pissed me off he didn't use it every single time he got into the post.

Dirk's is very hard to stop. But he also abuses it which is great.

Doctor K
05-30-2011, 12:17 AM
What about LeBron's fadeaway 3 pointer? :confusedshrug:

andgar923
05-30-2011, 12:24 AM
Why the f*ck would Bron even say this sh*t?

jlauber
05-30-2011, 12:29 AM
Right behind the "Dipper Dunk".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycO_MYuF89k#t=7m08s




http://i55.tinypic.com/2pyt8af.jpg

Not only that but...

http://www.amazon.com/Wilt-Larger-Robert-Allen-Cherry/dp/1572436727


In the twilight of his career, a 35 year old Wilt led the Lakers to victory over the Bucks and a 25 year old Jabbar during the 1972 playoffs. Even more astounding, was wilt blocked 20 shots in two consecutive games in that series, and 11 of those blocked shots were on Kareem. Who the heck ever did that to Jabbar. Makes you wonder what Wilt would have done in his prime. As great as Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, and Magic Johnson were, none of them had the impact or dominance of Wilt Chamberlain. The rules of the game were altered upon Wilts arrival into the league. Modern day fans talk of Shaq being the greatest center of all-time. Does anyone out there think Shaq could have blocked 11 Kareem shots in two games? Shaq wouldn't have been able to leap high enough to block a skyhook. That statistic alone, should be enough to convince anyone of Wilts athleticism.

Wilt blocked some 15 skyhooks in that series alone. This from a 35 year old, in the twilight of his career, at over 300 lbs, and on a surgically repaired knee.

kaiiu
05-30-2011, 01:35 AM
makin excuses already Lebron?

DirkNowitzki41
05-30-2011, 01:54 AM
:applause:

nashwade
05-30-2011, 01:59 AM
sorry but I dont play basketball: why is a fade-away shot unguardable? The release would be lower than a regular jumper which means it is easier to block

adri41
05-30-2011, 02:09 AM
Dirk is 7 feet tall, and has a high release. The smaller players that are quick enough are too small, and the players that are big enough are generally to slow and unused to defending that far out from the basket. That one-legged nonsense also helps him put space between himself and the the defender.

DuMa
05-30-2011, 02:11 AM
sorry but I dont play basketball: why is a fade-away shot unguardable? The release would be lower than a regular jumper which means it is easier to block
because you have to reach over the body of the shooter to block a fadeaway. and when you do, it increases the likelyhood of failing fundamental defense on a shooter: FOULING

DuMa
05-30-2011, 02:13 AM
Dirk is 7 feet tall, and has a high release. The smaller players that are quick enough are too small, and the players that are big enough are generally to slow and unused to defending that far out from the basket. That one-legged nonsense also helps him put space between himself and the the defender.

the one legged nonsense throws off the defender's timing. they have no clue on how to react when they see the one legged fadeaway. they generally have never seen it before so they wont have any experience guarding it. its so fundamentally unsound to shoot off one foot because you can lose your balance when rising up for the jumpshot so easily. so as a defender, your first instinct is to let the shooter shoot a one legged fadeaway.

DStebb716
05-30-2011, 02:14 AM
I think Russell Westbrook has the most unstoppable shot in NBA history. You'll NEVER get him to stop shooting.

adri41
05-30-2011, 02:14 AM
I love that shot so much. Most players you'd be thinking "idiot"...but with Dirk it's "well that's going in".

nashwade
05-30-2011, 03:25 AM
nash probably learnt it in Dallas.. or vice versa

I don't think it's a big deal. it is just as unguardable as Kobe's or Wade's step back fadeaway. But props to Dirk for sinking it so consistently

Toizumi
05-30-2011, 04:22 AM
Most unblockable.

I think Rasheed Wallace's fade away jumper is up there. No one could stop that in his prime. It pissed me off he didn't use it every single time he got into the post.

Dirk's is very hard to stop. But he also abuses it which is great.

Word. The thing with Sheed is that he still missed a bunch of those. Dirk has been pretty effective with his insane jumpshots...

vinsane01
05-30-2011, 08:14 AM
First thing that came to mind was kareem's skyhook and then jordan's fadeway. How about robert parish's awkward looking high arching jumper?

TheOne
05-30-2011, 08:24 AM
Without goal-tending rule in place I guess?



Not only that but...

http://www.amazon.com/Wilt-Larger-Robert-Allen-Cherry/dp/1572436727



Wilt blocked some 15 skyhooks in that series alone. This from a 35 year old, in the twilight of his career, at over 300 lbs, and on a surgically repaired knee.

LurkingFanboy
05-30-2011, 09:57 AM
nash probably learnt it in Dallas.. or vice versa

I don't think it's a big deal. it is just as unguardable as Kobe's or Wade's step back fadeaway. But props to Dirk for sinking it so consistently
If a guy is quick enough and athletic enough both of Kobe and Wade's fadeway shots can be contested and or blocked. Dirk being 7 feet tall and releasing the ball SOOO high up and him putting a leg out as another barrier it's ridiculously hard to block that shot or even properly contest it without wacking or bumping him. Best way to guard that shot is to crowd Dirk and have a guy with fast hands that can try to strip him as he goes up for the shot.

OriginalNameGuy
05-30-2011, 10:02 AM
How is this making an excuse? He's telling the truth, its hard to stop that without fouling Dirk

nashwade
05-30-2011, 10:58 AM
but one thing's for sure... he didn't learn it this season. he had the same fade away when they were beaten by Warriors in the first round

Lebron is just hyping it up.... kinda like phil jax's tricks

sh0wtime
05-30-2011, 11:31 AM
Actually, its not that farfetched at all when you thoroughly think about it.

IGOTGAME
05-30-2011, 11:38 AM
Actually, its not that farfetched at all when you thoroughly think about it.

so what about all those time that Stephen Jackson and Matt Barnes stopped it in '06? Seemed pretty stoppable back then.

Jordan's fadeaway was much harder to defend because he was more fundamentally sound before the shot.

INDI
05-30-2011, 11:40 AM
LeBron Rates Dirk's Fadeaway As Second Most Unstoppable Shot In League History
May 29, 2011 3:44 PM EDT


Dirk Nowitzki's now famous fading jumper on one leg that helped the Mavs beat the Thunder impressed the Heat.

"That is something new. He has always made some awkward shots for a big guy, but that one-legged shot that is pretty much un-guardable," said Heat forward Udonis Haslem, who had success guarding Nowitzki in 2006 when the Heat beat the Mavericks to win the title.

"Probably the most unstoppable shot ever is the sky hook. I guess you put Dirk second," James said. "You have a seven-footer fading away off one leg. There is no one that can block that shot."


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-miami-heat-news-notes-0529-20110528,0,4023942.story?track=rss

:confusedshrug:


one more thing to consider is that dirk has a very high release. if he had a normal release it would still be unguardable but a 7footer fading away and on one leg with a high release can almost never be blocked

IGOTGAME
05-30-2011, 11:45 AM
one more thing to consider is that dirk has a very high release. if he had a normal release it would still be unguardable but a 7footer fading away and on one leg with a high release can almost never be blocked


but his release is easier to block from behind and his one legged release puts him off balance against quicker defenders that beat him to the spot. His lack of a fundamental base and proper sealing technique make it easier than it should be to front him and take away the base and his blind spin into the move makes him vulnerable to double teams where he has shown he has trouble making the correct play at times. Dirk's fadeaway is very stoppable...ASK STEPHEN JACKSON AND TMAC.

1. Shaq's jumphooks or anything he did in the post was way more unstoppable than Dirk's fadeaway.

Also consider

- Jordan's fadeaway AND pull up jumper.

-Wilts finger roll and dunk.

-prime Kobe's pull up jumper.

- prime Tim Duncan's jumphooks

SFMF
05-30-2011, 11:58 AM
I do think Dirk's fadeaway is one of the most unstoppable moves in the history of NBA, but I think it's behind Kareem's skyhook and MJ's fadeaway.

Balla_Status
05-30-2011, 12:09 PM
http://www.gifsoup.com/view7/2511388/dirk-nowitzki-focus-o.gif

Pointguard
05-30-2011, 12:43 PM
Right behind the "Dipper Dunk".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycO_MYuF89k#t=7m08s

http://i55.tinypic.com/2pyt8af.jpg
That was the big dipper doing a dunk. Not a "dipper dunk" tho. Right?

Calabis
05-30-2011, 03:26 PM
Hell as far as shooters, Dirk, Sheed and Larry have the most indefensible shot I have seen, Dirk with a high release(release point damn near behind his head), Bird had a high ass weird release too, Sheed was high as hell too

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t7/base2fot42bskt41/sports/LarryBird.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/Fish12369/larrybird.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/lilsucka99/dirk.jpg

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee282/Guy_Hargrove03/Dirk-Nowitzki-Photograph-C12208386.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o154/bensoma1/Rasheed%20Wallace/File1601.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/yan2malagu/nba/Wallace.png

STATUTORY
05-30-2011, 04:18 PM
Hell as far as shooters, Dirk, Sheed and Larry have the most indefensible shot I have seen, Dirk with a high release(release point damn near behind his head), Bird had a high ass weird release too, Sheed was high as hell too

http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t7/base2fot42bskt41/sports/LarryBird.jpg

http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f353/Fish12369/larrybird.jpg

http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w46/lilsucka99/dirk.jpg

http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee282/Guy_Hargrove03/Dirk-Nowitzki-Photograph-C12208386.jpg

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o154/bensoma1/Rasheed%20Wallace/File1601.jpg

http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm207/yan2malagu/nba/Wallace.png

Bird would get his shit blocked a lot more in this era

mmsupra
05-30-2011, 04:57 PM
MJ fadeaway is one of my top , I like never saw that get blocked for how much he shot that shot. Matter fact what was MJ shot % on the fade had to be like 65% at least.

Calabis
05-30-2011, 05:01 PM
Bird would get his shit blocked a lot more in this era

Yup of course he would, just like Randolph and Love struggle daily to score in this hyper athletic league:oldlol:

LA_Showtime
05-30-2011, 05:01 PM
MJ fadeaway is one of my top , I like never saw that get blocked for how much he shot that shot. Matter fact what was MJ shot % on the fade had to be like 65% at least.

:oldlol: @ 65%

STATUTORY
05-30-2011, 05:09 PM
Yup of course he would, just like Randolph and Love struggle daily to score in this hyper athletic league:oldlol:

u really gonna compare 200 pound Larry Bird to man beasts like Randolph and Love?

PHILA
05-30-2011, 05:16 PM
Not only that but...

http://www.amazon.com/Wilt-Larger-Robert-Allen-Cherry/dp/1572436727



Wilt blocked some 15 skyhooks in that series alone. This from a 35 year old, in the twilight of his career, at over 300 lbs, and on a surgically repaired knee.The Milwaukee Sentinel - Apr 15, 1972 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=gnhQAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cREEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6335,4647333&dq)

http://i.imgur.com/s4lRB.png



That was the big dipper doing a dunk. Not a "dipper dunk" tho. Right?


`Dipper Dunk,' `Sky Hook:' Should They Be Patented?


May 31, 1996|BY JACK McKINNEY (http://articles.philly.com/1996-05-31/news/25627045_1_fosbury-flop-patent-high-jumpers/2)

Remember Wilt Chamberlain's Dipper Dunk? It was so uniquely Chamberlain's that sportswriters used to refer to it as Wilt's "patent shot.''

But if the move really had been patented, how long do you think Kareem Abdul-Jabbar's Sky Hook would have been in litigation?




Boys' Life - Dec 1964 (http://books.google.com/books?id=Jc3IcB6QycUC&lpg=PA13&ots=1ARJ8yn2MG&dq=wilt%20chamberlain%20dipper%20dunk&pg=PA13#v=onepage&q&f=false)


http://i.imgur.com/x9pWJ.png

Status Quo
05-30-2011, 05:18 PM
I think Russell Westbrook has the most unstoppable shot in NBA history. You'll NEVER get him to stop shooting.
:roll: :roll: :roll:

d.bball.guy
05-30-2011, 05:19 PM
a jk post : man there frethrow shot is unstoppable shot because if you do a guarding to free throw shot that is illegal to NBA basketball = unstoppable :roll: :roll: ok a no more jk post :

i think i agree
:roll::roll::roll::roll:
F*ck You! Your sentence can be replaced by two words: Free Throw.

Thanks for writing that sentence, it's better than just those two words.

swi7ch
05-30-2011, 06:03 PM
I would've said MJ's fallaway jumper but Dirk is 7-footer so, yeah.

niko
05-30-2011, 06:06 PM
LeBron Rates Dirk's Fadeaway As Second Most Unstoppable Shot In League History
May 29, 2011 3:44 PM EDT


Dirk Nowitzki's now famous fading jumper on one leg that helped the Mavs beat the Thunder impressed the Heat.

"That is something new. He has always made some awkward shots for a big guy, but that one-legged shot that is pretty much un-guardable," said Heat forward Udonis Haslem, who had success guarding Nowitzki in 2006 when the Heat beat the Mavericks to win the title.

"Probably the most unstoppable shot ever is my crab dribble drive. I guess you put Dirk second," James said. "You have a seven-footer fading away off one leg. There is no one that can block that shot."


http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/miami-heat/fl-miami-heat-news-notes-0529-20110528,0,4023942.story?track=rss


:confusedshrug:
fixed.

SCdac
05-30-2011, 06:31 PM
shit, I'd take a prime Oneal or Duncan post up over a Dirk fadeaway. Without hesitation.

Kobe24Clutch
05-30-2011, 10:23 PM
Lebron is just hyping the shot so he has a ready made excuse when he gets torched by Dirk and gets extra credit if he stops Dirk sllightly.

good PR move
:applause:

King Lebron LBJ
05-30-2011, 10:27 PM
shit, I'd take a prime Oneal or Duncan post up over a Dirk fadeaway. Without hesitation.

Duncan's BANK SHOT was Money :pimp:

Fatal9
05-30-2011, 10:32 PM
Bird would get his shit blocked a lot more in this era
Doubt a 6'10 SF with moves like this and a wet jumpshot is going to have trouble getting his shot off...

http://oi32.tinypic.com/209oe1t.jpg