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FireDavidKahn
06-01-2011, 10:21 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
by canishoopus
Ricky Rubio has reached an agreement with Minnesota to join the Timberwolves next season, league sources tell Y!
4 minutes ago
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http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Akvg3VQZLsW6ZyHCU1wwo0K8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_ricky_rubio_deal_timberwolves_060111


After two years of waiting, flamboyant Spanish point guard Ricky Rubio(notes) has agreed to join the Minnesota Timberwolves for the 2011-’12 season, league sources told Yahoo! Sports on Wednesday night.

Rubio reached a deal on Tuesday, sources said.

Rubio, the fifth pick in the 2009 NBA draft, has been playing for Regal Barcelona of the Spanish ACB League for the past two seasons. It’s likely that the deal won’t be announced until Rubio, 20, finishes his season in the Euroleague playoffs later this month.

b1imtf
06-01-2011, 10:22 PM
2012 Champions

ace23
06-01-2011, 10:26 PM
Maybe the T'Wolves will sell out a game (home opener).

Grinder
06-01-2011, 10:26 PM
Ricky Rubio/Luke Ridnour/Jonny Flynn
Wes Johnson/Martell Webster/Wayne Ellington
Michael Beasley/Derrick Williams/Lazar Hayward
Kevin Love/Anthony Randolph/Anthony Tolliver
Darko Milicic/Nikola Pekovic

That's actually not a bad team. Rubio didn't have a great year in Europe though.

greensmoke21
06-01-2011, 10:26 PM
rubio sucks

LBJ4MVP23
06-01-2011, 10:28 PM
Rubio can make flashy passes, and has a great eye for passing lanes. But everything else about him sucks. His defense, his shooting, his turn overs, and general IQ are just trash.

People saw him ball for a couple of games at a young age and assumed, well if hes this good now with flashes of brilliance, in 4 years he will be THE BEST PG EVER!!!! Wrong. But I do see him as a Pistol Pete type passer, so hopefully he can have a few highlight plays.

Jasper
06-01-2011, 10:29 PM
Here's a perfect example of a 16 year old kid in Euro pro sports shining alittle and the league and world thinks he's the next Kidd :banghead:
Watching his vid's .. I see a white guy that can't jump , and is a spot up shooter.
Only real game is that he is a floor general with a good pass.
Will he have the handles when he plays the NBA :confusedshrug:

100% hip /// 0 hop's :rolleyes:

LBJWADE
06-01-2011, 10:32 PM
SO what do they do with their draft pick if Cavs take Williams?

WadeRekeforlife
06-01-2011, 10:32 PM
love that Kermit gif

Dbrog
06-01-2011, 10:35 PM
Rubio can make flashy passes, and has a great eye for passing lanes. But everything else about him sucks. His defense, his shooting, his turn overs, and general IQ are just trash.

People saw him ball for a couple of games at a young age and assumed, well if hes this good now with flashes of brilliance, in 4 years he will be THE BEST PG EVER!!!! Wrong. But I do see him as a Pistol Pete type passer, so hopefully he can have a few highlight plays.

Is it bad that he reminds me of bas telfair (in terms of what people said about them)?

joe
06-01-2011, 10:36 PM
Say what you will about Ricky, but you can't deny that he's always looked at least solid against Team USA. He even had some spectacular moments against them.

Maga_1
06-01-2011, 10:39 PM
It's quite strange that this was announced in the same day that Barcelona win game 3 and go to ACB finals.

I'm just glad that he's going to NBA to prove all the haters that they were wrong, or prove that they were right.

FireMcFailPlease
06-01-2011, 10:42 PM
but but but knicks fans said he doesnt wanna play in minny but in a market where he can get sponsors

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-01-2011, 10:42 PM
:rockon: :rockon: :hammertime: :djparty :cletus: :party:
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Kurosawa0
06-01-2011, 10:45 PM
Rookie of the Year! :lol

Hey, with this draft class it might not be so far-fetched.

FireDavidKahn
06-01-2011, 10:46 PM
APkrawczynski Jon Krawczynski
by canishoopus
I have confirmed that Rubio is coming over to play for the #Timberwolves next season. Tip of the cap to @DanBarreiroKFAN for being first.
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He will be the 3rd Rookie of the Year from the 2009 draft:oldlol: :cheers: :banana:

MeLO MvP 15
06-01-2011, 10:46 PM
Damn that was close. I'm pretty sure they had to reach an agreement 48 hours after May 31. I thought I read that some where. So that means they rly cut it close.

good for Minny, I think Rubio will be legit.

If they could get a good center (maybe drafter Kanter or Biyombo) they'll be a dangerous team.

B-Easy8
06-01-2011, 10:50 PM
Awesome news for us.

I haven't heard of any knowledgable Wolves fans talk him up like he is going to be the next Nash or Kidd but I think he can be a good PG in this league. The Euro game is so different to the NBA so of couse his stats won't look good. He can't shoot for shit but he is a very good passer and can run an offense which is what we need. He will also be deadly on the break with Wes, Beas and Randolph.

Now we just need a good C.
We have #2, #20, Ridnour or Flynn, Darko, Ellington and Pekovic for a C that isn't too old and that can play good defense. Any takers?

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-01-2011, 10:52 PM
Rookie of the Year! :lol

Hey, with this draft class it might not be so far-fetched.

This could actually happen. Espically if Kurt Rambis is either fired or switches up the offensive style(Fu$k Triangle).

Beasley....I mean Rubio:rolleyes: should easily get 8-10 assist a game with this squad.

You got Kevin Love the best offball player in the NBA. He excels in the pick and roll/pop game.

Beasley arubably the best player in the planet when he is healthy and motivated (not even God could stop him).

ThankYouBasedKahn:cheers:

FireMcFailPlease
06-01-2011, 10:54 PM
This could actually happen. Espically if Kurt Rambis is either fired or switches up the offensive style(Fu$k Triangle).

Beasley....I mean Rubio:rolleyes: should easily get 8-10 assist a game with this squad.

You got Kevin Love the best offball player in the NBA. He excels in the pick and roll/pop game.

Beasley arubably the best player in the planet when he is healthy and motivated (not even God could stop him).

ThankYouBasedKahn:cheers:
brian cardinal is better than beasley, he just doesnt get enough burn

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-01-2011, 10:55 PM
Damn that was close. I'm pretty sure they had to reach an agreement 48 hours after May 31. I thought I read that some where. So that means they rly cut it close.

good for Minny, I think Rubio will be legit.

If they could get a good center (maybe drafter Kanter or Biyombo) they'll be a dangerous team.

Same here. I thought the deadline was done.

And yes the 5 spot is what Minnesota desperately needs!!

I heard how the Wizards really like Ened and are willing to give up Javlee just to get him!!!!

Get on that Kahn!!!!

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-01-2011, 11:02 PM
Awesome news for us.

I haven't heard of any knowledgable Wolves fans talk him up like he is going to be the next Nash or Kidd but I think he can be a good PG in this league. The Euro game is so different to the NBA so of couse his stats won't look good. He can't shoot for shit but he is a very good passer and can run an offense which is what we need. He will also be deadly on the break with Wes, Beas and Randolph.

Now we just need a good C.
We have #2, #20, Ridnour or Flynn, Darko, Ellington and Pekovic for a C that isn't too old and that can play good defense. Any takers?

Wizards Receive: Darko, Flynn, 2nd pick(draft either Derrick or Enes), 20th pick

Wolves Receive: Javlee, Maurice Evans, 6th pick, Josh Howard

DStebb716
06-01-2011, 11:04 PM
Bout damn time.

(Let's not act like this changes very much, we still don't know if he is that good and that Wolves team is an absolute joke).

InspiredLebowski
06-01-2011, 11:04 PM
And now he gets traded.

Seriously though, is his contract the 5th slot from the 09 draft or what? Is that how it works with these guys?

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-01-2011, 11:05 PM
brian cardinal is better than beasley, he just doesnt get enough burn

How dare you disrespect Brian Cardinal like that!:no:

You should be a shame of yourself.

Brian Cardinal > NBA

B-Easy8
06-01-2011, 11:11 PM
Wizards Receive: Darko, Flynn, 2nd pick(draft either Derrick or Enes), 20th pick

Wolves Receive: Javlee, Maurice Evans, 6th pick, Josh Howard

I would happily do that but I would rather not throw in pick 20 also.

FireDavidKahn
06-01-2011, 11:13 PM
And now he gets traded.

Seriously though, is his contract the 5th slot from the 09 draft or what? Is that how it works with these guys?
Yep, exactly. His contract will be

2,724.3 (3,269.16 million)

2,928.6 (3,514.32 million)

3,132.9 (3,759.48 million)

26.7% increase over 3rd year (4,763.26 million)

Qualifying Offer 32.6% increase over 4th year (6,316.08 million)

The numbers to the left are the base salary and the teams can negotiate 80% to 120% of that number. With Rubio, I can only assume it would be 120% which is what the numbers in the parentheses are.

Sam Winchester
06-01-2011, 11:16 PM
Finally

InspiredLebowski
06-01-2011, 11:17 PM
Yep, exactly. His contract will be

2,724.3 (3,269.16 million)

2,928.6 (3,514.32 million)

3,132.9 (3,759.48 million)

26.7% increase over 3rd year (4,763.26 million)

Qualifying Offer 32.6% increase over 4th year (6,316.08 million)

The numbers to the left are the base salary and the teams can negotiate 80% to 120% of that number. With Rubio, I can only assume it would be 120% which is what the numbers in the parentheses are.Thanks, that's what I assumed but wasn't positive. And it'll definitely be 120%, the vast majority of rookie deals are.

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-01-2011, 11:24 PM
I would happily do that but I would rather not throw in pick 20 also.

We get the Wizards 1st pick too.

That would be highway robbery brah!!!

We than draft either Brooks /Burks or Bismack or even gamble on the guy Minnesota really want Chris Singleton.

Then we can trade Anthony Randolph (I highy doubt he resigns with this ballclub) for some veteran.

PG Ricky Rubio/Luke(we saw how good he was last season as a back up)
SG Wesley Johnson/Alex Burks
SF Michael God/Martell Webster/Evans/Howard
PF Kevin Love/Antony Tolliver
C Jalvee McGee/Pek
:bowdown:

FireDavidKahn
06-01-2011, 11:27 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=Akvg3VQZLsW6ZyHCU1wwo0K8vLYF?slug=aw-wojnarowski_ricky_rubio_deal_timberwolves_060111

[QUOTE]After two years of waiting, flamboyant Spanish point guard Ricky Rubio(notes) has agreed to join the Minnesota Timberwolves for the 2011-

bagelred
06-01-2011, 11:29 PM
Can you throw Ridnour our way? Appreciate it.

FireDavidKahn
06-01-2011, 11:31 PM
Can you throw Ridnour our way? Appreciate it.
You can have Flynn for a slice of NY pizza. Now Ridnour goes back to the role he should be in, a back up.

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-01-2011, 11:32 PM
Can you throw Ridnour our way? Appreciate it.

If the Knicks are willing to give us Tony Douglas and Billy Walker:cheers:

bagelred
06-01-2011, 11:33 PM
If the Knicks are willing to give us Tony Douglas and Billy Walker:cheers:

Billy Walker, cash....done deal.

iggy>
06-01-2011, 11:34 PM
Jrue holiday for Rubio, straight up

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-01-2011, 11:43 PM
Jrue holiday for Rubio, straight up

Add Doug Collins and Louis Williams and you got urself a deal

B-Easy8
06-01-2011, 11:43 PM
Jrue holiday for Rubio, straight up

Are you really high on Rubio or don't you like Holiday? Holiday is a good young player, he can shoot, pass, plays excellent d and is a very big PG.

iggy>
06-01-2011, 11:46 PM
Are you really high on Rubio or don't you like Holiday? Holiday is a good young player, he can shoot, pass, plays excellent d and is a very big PG.
I'd rather have holiday, I just wanted to make a retarded post. Which would then cause jrue vs rubio arguments. Hopefully I succeeded.

FireMcFailPlease
06-01-2011, 11:50 PM
I'd rather have holiday, I just wanted to make a retarded post. Which would then cause jrue vs rubio arguments. Hopefully I succeeded.
you know, that last post wasnt necessary at all. your retarded post is right here

iggy>
06-01-2011, 11:55 PM
Rubio will get abused on the defensive end in the NBA, he's like the european Shaun Livingston

bdreason
06-02-2011, 12:01 AM
I look forward to the highlights.

FireMcFailPlease
06-02-2011, 12:19 AM
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Rowe
06-02-2011, 12:23 AM
Oh lawd.

Cant wait to see how he plays this season.

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-02-2011, 12:28 AM
:roll: :roll: :roll: :applause: :oldlol:
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Scoooter
06-02-2011, 12:29 AM
Chauncey Billups and a second round Draft pick for Ricky Rubio. And Kevin Love.

Kobe24Clutch
06-02-2011, 12:30 AM
Ahh shit Timberwolves 2012 Champs. :lol

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-02-2011, 12:34 AM
Ahh shit Timberwolves 2012 Champs. :lol


WE DA BESS

FireMcFailPlease
06-02-2011, 12:34 AM
Ahh shit Timberwolves 2012 Champs. :lol
honestly i dont see a loss on the schedule

Kobe24Clutch
06-02-2011, 12:36 AM
WE DA BESS

YOU KNOW IT WE DA BESS

d.bball.guy
06-02-2011, 12:36 AM
Rookie of the Year! :lol

Hey, with this draft class it might not be so far-fetched.
He should be qualified.

LJJ
06-02-2011, 12:41 AM
Over 50 posts in this thread and no Lakas FAn Yo?

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Very curious to see how Rubio is going to play in the NBA of course...

Miserio
06-02-2011, 12:48 AM
Rubio = GOAT PG

Clutch
06-02-2011, 01:09 AM
Chauncey Billups and a second round Draft pick for Ricky Rubio. And Kevin Love.
Are we trying to create All-Non Defensive team ?

Rubio
Fields
Melo
Love
Amare

It can't get much worse than that.

Scoooter
06-02-2011, 01:21 AM
Are we trying to create All-Non Defensive team ?

Rubio
Fields
Melo
Love
Amare

It can't get much worse than that.
Who cares? We already gave up on D when we traded all the tea in China for Chubs McMelo. Kevin Love rebounding and then throwing a quick, crisp outlet to Rubio who finds Melo or Amar'e on the break? That would be awesome.

Miserio
06-02-2011, 01:24 AM
Are we trying to create All-Non Defensive team ?

Rubio
Fields
Melo
Love
Amare

It can't get much worse than that.
Nash
Korver
Walton
Love
DeJuan Blair

Clutch
06-02-2011, 01:42 AM
Who cares? We already gave up on D when we traded all the tea in China for Chubs McMelo. Kevin Love rebounding and then throwing a quick, crisp outlet to Rubio who finds Melo or Amar'e on the break? That would be awesome.
We made that deal to get another superstar.Now we have 2 stars and we need to surround them with players who will make our team balanced.

Trading for unproven young point guard and a guy who gets out of way on defense just to collect boards won't help us long term.

By the way,I would do that trade because TWolves would get absolutely robbed.
But no way that Kevin Love and Rubio are our priorities.

Samurai Swoosh
06-02-2011, 01:44 AM
I never wish for a player to fail, but I can't stand this guy. Can't wait to see D. Rose, CP3, Deron Williams tear this dude a new one.

Scoooter
06-02-2011, 02:22 AM
We made that deal to get another superstar.Now we have 2 stars and we need to surround them with players who will make our team balanced.

Trading for unproven young point guard and a guy who gets out of way on defense just to collect boards won't help us long term.

By the way,I would do that trade because TWolves would get absolutely robbed.
But no way that Kevin Love and Rubio are our priorities.
I was obviously joking. There is no way that was a serious trade proposal.

InspiredLebowski
06-02-2011, 03:05 AM
http://twitter.com/#!/kevinlove/status/76138549308690432


Ricky Rubio huh? I'll believe it when I see it...

chains5000
06-02-2011, 03:08 AM
He's had a really disappointing season, hopefully he'll have a better one with the wolves.

alenleomessi
06-02-2011, 04:10 AM
Now draft ENES !!!

blacknapalm
06-02-2011, 04:17 AM
yes, he had a disappointing season but there's no doubt minny needs PG help. they need shooters too but i'll be surprised if rubio doesn't at least average 6.3 assists. he's gonna be depended on to push the ball.

Grinder
06-02-2011, 04:20 AM
My prediction:

6 points/8 assists/3 rebounds/1.5 steals/2 TOs on 38% from the field and 32% from 3

Laimbeer_Rodman
06-02-2011, 07:46 AM
He's sure much better that Ridnour .I think that people see him trough Navarro ,Calderon or Fernandez but i don't see that he's ever gonna be as good as those guys.

InspiredLebowski
06-02-2011, 07:49 AM
Sota better get some shooters if Rubio's supposed to be racking up dimes. Can only run so many PnR variations with Love.

swi7ch
06-02-2011, 08:19 AM
Like a PG Darko! :bowdown:

blacknapalm
06-02-2011, 08:23 AM
He's sure much better that Ridnour .I think that people see him trough Navarro ,Calderon or Fernandez but i don't see that he's ever gonna be as good as those guys.

just because they're european? calderon is inconsistent. fernandez is a totally different player. rubio reminds me more of telfair and sessions. i don't think he's a star but i think he can be a starter.

grinder, 8 assists sounds too high man. rambis still runs remnants of the triangle and that isn't exactly PG friendly. i think 6.5 assists is attainable and it should help. i also think he'd average a bit more pts than assists.

moreover, i def think this makes flynn expendable. there's no need to have 3 PG that don't separate each other by any big margin. i agree with OP on trading flynn. just get what you can and go with rubio for the time being. i don't think flynn is going to breakout into an all-star all of a sudden.

Bigsmoke
06-02-2011, 08:26 AM
Ricky Rubio/Luke Ridnour/Jonny Flynn
Wes Johnson/Martell Webster/Wayne Ellington
Michael Beasley/Derrick Williams/Lazar Hayward
Kevin Love/Anthony Randolph/Anthony Tolliver
Darko Milicic/Nikola Pekovic

That's actually not a bad team. Rubio didn't have a great year in Europe though.

basically, its the same roster from last year with but with the addition of an overrated piece of trash PG.

ballerz
06-02-2011, 08:34 AM
I thought rubio was a myth

coin24
06-02-2011, 08:44 AM
Rubio is garbage anyway. Whats the big deal?:confusedshrug:

No offence to Wolves fans, but they are going to be the same steaming pile of crap next season.. Same useless coach and poor roster..
Beasley only has one more year there right??

LJJ
06-02-2011, 08:47 AM
He's sure much better that Ridnour .I think that people see him trough Navarro ,Calderon or Fernandez but i don't see that he's ever gonna be as good as those guys.

Better than Ridnour, but worse than Navarro or Fernandez? Ridnour's worst season is better than anything Fernandez or Navarro ever did in the NBA.

Laimbeer_Rodman
06-02-2011, 08:47 AM
just because they're european? calderon is inconsistent. fernandez is a totally different player. rubio reminds me more of telfair and sessions. i don't think he's a star but i think he can be a starter.

grinder, 8 assists sounds too high man. rambis still runs remnants of the triangle and that isn't exactly PG friendly. i think 6.5 assists is attainable and it should help. i also think he'd average a bit more pts than assists.

moreover, i def think this makes flynn expendable. there's no need to have 3 PG that don't separate each other by any big margin. i agree with OP on trading flynn. just get what you can and go with rubio for the time being. i don't think flynn is going to breakout into an all-star all of a sudden.
No what i try to say is because of this great generation that Spain had(Navarro,Gasol,Calderon,Fernandez,Reyes...) people tend to hype him up as some kind of earl and the next big thing.

kaiiu
06-02-2011, 08:47 AM
basically, its the same roster from last with but with the addition of an overrated piece of trash PG.
:roll: :roll: :roll: I like this new Bigsmoke

Laimbeer_Rodman
06-02-2011, 08:53 AM
Better than Ridnour, but worse than Navarro or Fernandez? Ridnour's worst season is better than anything Fernandez or Navarro ever did in the NBA.
Did you ever watch Fernandez or Navarro play or you just look into stats?
Luke Ridnour is the PG of the worst team in NBA

FireMcFailPlease
06-02-2011, 09:01 AM
bahahaha god I love this site. Some of the rubio haters whove never watched him play make me laugh

LJJ
06-02-2011, 09:03 AM
Did you ever watch Fernandez or Navarro play or you just look into stats?
Luke Ridnour is the PG of the worst team in NBA

He's just a role player, not that great, but he is a starter in this league for nearly a generation.

The thought of Navarro or Fernandez consistently starting on any NBA team makes me nauseous. Navarro chucked it up one season and knew he wasn't NBA material. Fernandez can't even get consistent playing time even though he is basically the only healthy player on the Blazers.

LA.MJ&KB#1
06-02-2011, 09:30 AM
Congrat Timberwolf and welcome to the NBA RR.

Mavsfan31
06-02-2011, 11:07 AM
Complete a package deal with Lakers. Give them Flynn or Ridnour and whatever else for Bynum :roll:

Godzuki
06-02-2011, 12:00 PM
that article should have mentioned Rubio was getting no PT for Barcelona, so no wonder he chose to take the TWolves offer.

I just don't get how a dude who can't even start in a euro league, and gets awful stats can be some sought after player and hyped in the NBA :wtf:

Godzuki
06-02-2011, 12:01 PM
bahahaha god I love this site. Some of the rubio haters whove never watched him play make me laugh


I don't get the hype. He can't even start for Barcelona and his stats are fawful

FireDavidKahn
06-02-2011, 12:20 PM
Did you ever watch Fernandez or Navarro play or you just look into stats?
Luke Ridnour is the PG of the worst team in NBA
Apparently you don't either. Ridnour would be a very good back up PG which he is going to be now.

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-02-2011, 12:23 PM
Apparently you don't either. Ridnour would be a very good back up PG which he is going to be now.
:hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime: :hammertime:

HylianNightmare
06-02-2011, 12:37 PM
good now they can trade him

Shepseskaf
06-02-2011, 12:41 PM
bahahaha god I love this site. Some of the rubio haters whove never watched him play make me laugh
I think that people are just saying he's overhyped -- which is absolutely true. I watched him playing in the 2008 Olympics, the only sample he has against NBA competition. Truthfully, I'm less than impressed.

Rubio did throw some nice passes and displayed good court awareness, but I absolutely do not think he'll be able to do the same things on a night-in-night-out basis in the league.

He has no physique/strength and will get abused defensively by just about every point guard he goes up against. He doesn't have quick enough feet to stay in front an average (or even below-average) guard, so you have someone who cannot be counted on for major minutes -- too much of a liability.

When teams actually get a chance to scout him properly, those pin-point passes are going to be much, much harder to pull off.

So, if he is a huge liability defensively, and will struggle to get his passes through, what exactly is he? How will he help the 'Wolves?

It will be interesting to see what happens, and I would like to be wrong about this kid, but I don't think that I am.

Grinder
06-02-2011, 12:56 PM
basically, its the same roster from last year with but with the addition of an overrated piece of trash PG.

Derrick Williams is nonexistent eh?



:oldlol: at coming back 40 minutes later to edit that post.

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-02-2011, 01:01 PM
Derrick Williams is nonexistent eh?



:oldlol: at coming back 40 minutes later to edit that post.

Derrick isn't even on the Wolves radar.

BrilliantLegacy
06-02-2011, 01:13 PM
Johnny Flynn needs to get the **** out of Minnesota as soon as possible. He had a great rookie year, then the injury slowed him down. Now he is playing behind Luke, and next season, he will also have to play behind Rubio. I can see him getting only 10 minutes per game.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:18 PM
One of the worst players in the Euroleague, clearly one of the worst point guards in the Euroleague and this idiot Kahn can't wait to sign him?

It's official. David Khan is the worst general manager in US sports history.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:19 PM
Say what you will about Ricky, but you can't deny that he's always looked at least solid against Team USA. He even had some spectacular moments against them.

Team USA is known as one of the worst defensive national teams in the world. He sees about 5 times harder defense in Euroleague.

Grinder
06-02-2011, 01:23 PM
Derrick isn't even on the Wolves radar.

Why? Because he's going to be better than Beasley?

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:23 PM
He's sure much better that Ridnour .I think that people see him trough Navarro ,Calderon or Fernandez but i don't see that he's ever gonna be as good as those guys.

Fernandez is not that good and never has been. But as good as Navarro? No. Rubio will NEVER be half as good as Navarro is.

Calderon is also much better than Rubio is.

Rubio might possibly develop into the level of player that Fernandez is.

Ridnour is right now a much better player than Rubio is. If Rubio learned to shoot then he would be better than Ridnour, but as of right now, Rubio is the worst shooting perimeter player in the entire Euroleague.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:28 PM
Better than Ridnour, but worse than Navarro or Fernandez? Ridnour's worst season is better than anything Fernandez or Navarro ever did in the NBA.

Navarro is 10 times better than Ridnour.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:30 PM
bahahaha god I love this site. Some of the rubio haters whove never watched him play make me laugh

The Rubio lovers who have clearly and obviously never seen him play (like you) are good for a real big laugh.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:30 PM
He's just a role player, not that great, but he is a starter in this league for nearly a generation.

The thought of Navarro or Fernandez consistently starting on any NBA team makes me nauseous. Navarro chucked it up one season and knew he wasn't NBA material. Fernandez can't even get consistent playing time even though he is basically the only healthy player on the Blazers.

Saying Ridnour is better than Navarro is grounds for immediate banishment.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:31 PM
that article should have mentioned Rubio was getting no PT for Barcelona, so no wonder he chose to take the TWolves offer.

I just don't get how a dude who can't even start in a euro league, and gets awful stats can be some sought after player and hyped in the NBA :wtf:

Because the NBA is actually about 1/3 as good as people in the USA think it is.

R.I.P.
06-02-2011, 01:32 PM
At least Minnesota will be the hottest team on ISH, cause every time Rubio makes a bad pass, takes a bad shot, or has a turnover EUROLEAGUE will open a thread about it. :oldlol:

gutshot
06-02-2011, 01:32 PM
Not a good decision by both Rubio and TWolves.
Rubio played bad this season. I've seen some of his Euroleague games live. He is for away from being able to make an impact in the NBA. Twolves are gambling.

Reverend Hoops
06-02-2011, 01:38 PM
rubio sucks

Rubio is the next Pistol Pete.

HylianNightmare
06-02-2011, 01:40 PM
Because the NBA is actually about 1/3 as good as people in the USA think it is.
http://fizzygrizzly.com/images/smilies/fgpic14.jpg

R.I.P.
06-02-2011, 01:40 PM
Not a good decision by both Rubio and TWolves.
Rubio played bad this season. I've seen some of his Euroleague games live. He is for away from being able to make an impact in the NBA. Twolves are gambling.

The kid needs a new challenge and the NBA floor is much more open, especially in the regular season. His competition in Minnesota is crap. Good starting conditions, but at the same time passing first point guards from Europe have always struggled in the NBA, because it is tough for a player from overseas to be accepted as the floor general by proven American pros. Look how long it took Nash or Billups to find their spots.

jamal99
06-02-2011, 01:40 PM
I just hope (for the sake of them) they don't pick Motiejunas or Valanciunas on this draft. They smell like busts to me. If they are going euro they should pick Vesely. He and Rubio would be nice duo for alley oops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfIZsbODSIg&feature=player_embedded

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:42 PM
http://fizzygrizzly.com/images/smilies/fgpic14.jpg

Euroleague scrubs and even players that cannot even play at the Euroleague level are going in the NBA lottery and are being coveted and drooled over by the NBA for several years now. The talent standard of the NBA has become incredibly low.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:45 PM
The kid needs a new challenge and the NBA floor is much more open, especially in the regular season. His competition in Minnesota is crap. Good starting conditions, but at the same time passing first point guards from Europe have always struggled in the NBA, because it is tough for a player from overseas to be accepted as the floor general by proven American pros. Look how long it took Nash or Billups to find their spots.

I have no doubt that Rubio can start for the Wolves and that he can put up better numbers in the NBA than he did in the ACB and Euroleague. I also know for a fact that he is a terrible player and the Wolves should be removed from the league because they are becoming such an embarrassment to the NBA.

8BeastlyXOIAD
06-02-2011, 01:47 PM
Euroleague:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

That Dude is Mad!!!!

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:49 PM
I just hope (for the sake of them) they don't pick Motiejunas or Valanciunas on this draft. They smell like busts to me. If they are going euro they should pick Vesely. He and Rubio would be nice duo for alley oops

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfIZsbODSIg&feature=player_embedded

That would be yet another proof of Khan being retarded. Vesely is not a good shooter and not good at creating his own shot. Sure, he is much better than Valanciunas and Motiejunas, but he is not that good on offense.

With Rubio, you have a terrible offensive player, and are basically playing 4 on 5 on offense. Teams don't even guard him. They leave him wide open and unguarded the entire game and he still can't score or shoot.

Having him along with Vesely, who is really a defensive specialist and a open court/lob dunker would be a really anemic offense.

Kevin Love might set an offensive rebounding record playing next to Rubio.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 01:51 PM
Euroleague:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

That Dude is Mad!!!!

Wolves fans actually can't wait to have one of the worst players in the Euroleague as their starting point guard and are excited about it. That is pretty much proof of how pathetic that organization is.

FireMcFailPlease
06-02-2011, 02:15 PM
Johnny Flynn needs to get the **** out of Minnesota as soon as possible. He had a great rookie year, then the injury slowed him down. Now he is playing behind Luke, and next season, he will also have to play behind Rubio. I can see him getting only 10 minutes per game.ill drive jonny flynn to the airport for free if he gets out.

hes awful

LJJ
06-02-2011, 02:16 PM
Navarro is 10 times better than Ridnour.

Not in the NBA he's not.

FireMcFailPlease
06-02-2011, 02:18 PM
Wolves fans actually can't wait to have one of the worst players in the Euroleague as their starting point guard and are excited about it. That is pretty much proof of how pathetic that organization is.
:roll: :roll:

message board scouts. the freaking best!

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 02:19 PM
Not in the NBA he's not.

You are obviously about 10 years old. You earned an ignore.

Navarro is far better than Ridnour on any court or league on the planet.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 02:20 PM
:roll: :roll:

message board scouts. the freaking best!

Stop embarrassing yourself. Rubio is a big joke in Europe. People just laugh at him he is such an awful player. Have fun with him. You are the type of joke fan that deserves to have such awful players on your team.

And you will either disappear or pretend you never claimed he was good. I don't know which is funnier - that the Wolves and their fans depend on one of the worst players in Euroleague to save them - or that they actually seem to believe that he can.

The Wolves should definitely be subtracted from the NBA, because they are just a total joke.

LJJ
06-02-2011, 02:22 PM
You are obviously about 10 years old. You earned an ignore.

Navarro is far better than Ridnour on any court or league on the planet.

Lmao, look at this cat. You talking about the Navarro who got his butt kicked out of the NBA in one season? That Navarro? Sucks. Another example of a Euroleague star who can't hack it at the biggest level.

FireMcFailPlease
06-02-2011, 02:25 PM
Stop embarrassing yourself. Rubio is a big joke in Europe. People just laugh at him he is such an awful player. Have fun with him. You are the type of joke fan that deserves to have such awful players on your team.

And you will either disappear or pretend you never claimed he was good. I don't which is funnier - that the Wolves and their fans depend on one of the worst players in Euroleague to save them - or that they actually seem to believe that he can.

The Wolves should definitely be subtracted from the NBA, because they are just a total joke.
ill disappear? ive been here since november of 2006. you arrived less than a year ago, and ive yet to read a post of yours that someone agrees with you.

your analysis is stale, dont quit your mcdonalds job, and probably return that unopened box of condoms you bought when you joined this site because we all know those wont be used

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 02:25 PM
Lmao, look at this cat. You talking about the Navarro who got his butt kicked out of the NBA in one season? That Navarro? Sucks. Another example of a Euroleague star who can't hack it at the biggest level.

Permanent ignore list for you. This level of general basketball knowledge retardation from you is just going too far.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 02:26 PM
ill disappear? ive been here since november of 2006. you arrived less than a year ago, and ive yet to read a post of yours that someone agrees with you.

your analysis is stale, dont quit your mcdonalds job, and probably return that unopened box of condoms you bought when you joined this site because we all know those wont be used

And you confirm that you are no older than 12.

Grinder
06-02-2011, 02:29 PM
Lmao, look at this cat. You talking about the Navarro who got his butt kicked out of the NBA in one season? That Navarro? Sucks. Another example of a Euroleague star who can't hack it at the biggest level.

Guys like Pekovic and Splitter have been poor this year as well. David Andersen couldn't even crack the Raptors rotation. All these guys were major rotation players on the best teams in Europe.

JayCee Carroll was the leading scorer in the ACB, he couldn't make the Celtics preseason roster...

Only a matter of time before "Lakas Fan Yo" aka "Euroleague" is banned for the 5th or 6th time.

FireMcFailPlease
06-02-2011, 02:30 PM
And you confirm that you are no older than 12.
well i can assure i am more than doubled that age you gave me.

but i do believe i can find a random 12 yr old in kansas who would give me a better analysis on euroleague than you try to.

LJJ
06-02-2011, 02:30 PM
Still laughing @ Navarro. Dude is barely six foot tall, can't pass the ball without turning it over and is a volume shooter at a 40% clip. That's awful. And we all knew before he came that this short midget chucker was not NBA material. Stay in the Euroleague brah, with all the other unathletic white boys and NBA rejects.

Grinder
06-02-2011, 02:33 PM
Still laughing @ Navarro. Dude is barely six foot tall, can't pass the ball without turning it over and is a volume shooter at a 40% clip. That's awful. And we all knew before he came that this short midget chucker was not NBA material. Stay in the Euroleague brah, with all the other unathletic white boys and NBA rejects.

Euroleague is an idiot but Navarro is pretty good player. He's close to 6'4", decent passer, excellent perimeter shooter and has a deadly floater. Definite NBA player, not a starter but a great guy to have off the bench.

Bigsmoke
06-02-2011, 02:33 PM
Derrick Williams is nonexistent eh?



:oldlol: at coming back 40 minutes later to edit that post.

:sleeping :sleeping :sleeping

They are still going to be garbage for years to come.

GOBB
06-02-2011, 02:38 PM
Ricky Rubio/Luke Ridnour/Jonny Flynn
Wes Johnson/Martell Webster/Wayne Ellington
Michael Beasley/Derrick Williams/Lazar Hayward
Kevin Love/Anthony Randolph/Anthony Tolliver
Darko Milicic/Nikola Pekovic

That's actually not a bad college team. National title favorites Rubio didn't have a great year in Europe though.

Fixed

alenleomessi
06-02-2011, 02:42 PM
10/9/4 on 43%

Reverend Hoops
06-02-2011, 02:46 PM
Euroleague scrubs and even players that cannot even play at the Euroleague level are going in the NBA lottery and are being coveted and drooled over by the NBA for several years now. The talent standard of the NBA has become incredibly low.

He has a point. Not sure why we haven't learned yet after all the Euro failures.

Bigsmoke
06-02-2011, 02:47 PM
Fixed

:applause:

Grinder
06-02-2011, 02:47 PM
Fixed

It would be comical to see an NCAA all star team even try to come within 30.

BankShot
06-02-2011, 02:49 PM
10/9/4 on 43%

I would be incredibly happy with that.

Here are the players that have accomplished that stat line in the last 20 years:

Magic Johnson
Tim Hardaway
Rod Strickland (3x)
Mugsy Bogues
Jason Kidd
Andre Miller
Chris Paul (4x)
Steve Nash
Deron Williams
Rajon Rondo (2x)

Thats not a shabby group in which to be included

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 02:49 PM
Euroleague is an idiot but Navarro is pretty good player. He's close to 6'4", decent passer, excellent perimeter shooter and has a deadly floater. Definite NBA player, not a starter but a great guy to have off the bench.

Not a starter..........................you really cling to this NBA basketball bs.


Rubio will be a starter in the NBA and he is not half as good as Navarro, and never will be either.

GOBB
06-02-2011, 03:12 PM
It would be comical to see an NCAA all star team even try to come within 30.

Nikola Vucevic. What you know about him?

Grinder
06-02-2011, 03:20 PM
Nikola Vucevic. What you know about him?

Did you watch any USC games the past few years? Pretty good player.

Legit 7 footer, great touch, and perimeter shot...very offensively polished.

The downside is he's painfully slow, can't jump to save his life, and is very unathletic in general. Despite this, he's not a terrible defender and pretty good shot blocker.

He measured out with a 7'5" wingspan in the combine and apparently has been killing it in workouts.

Probably has potential to be a better version of Rasho Nesterovic with more range.

I'd rather have him on the Sixers than Tristan Thompson or Markieff Morris.

GOBB
06-02-2011, 03:30 PM
Did you watch any USC games the past few years? Pretty good player.

Legit 7 footer, great touch, and perimeter shot...very offensively polished.

The downside is he's painfully slow, can't jump to save his life, and is very unathletic in general. Despite this, he's not a terrible defender and pretty good shot blocker.

He measured out with a 7'5" wingspan in the combine and apparently has been killing it in workouts.

Probably has potential to be a better version of Rasho Nesterovic with more range.

I'd rather have him on the Sixers than Tristan Thompson or Markieff Morris.

Altho Rasho has been the butt of many jokes. I wouldnt be against this guy to pair with Spencer Hawes. Shows how desperate the Sixers need for a big is.

I really havent watched many USC games. Pac 10 conference games come on tv for me but usually too late. I'll try to watch then fall asleep or totally forget a game is even on. Last time I watched USC more than a handful of times was when OJ Mayo was there. I've read about his measurements and he's has some size and length to him. But tested terrible athletically. And you hinted he is painfully slow. But he's intriguing, checked out some highlights of his and he wasnt bad. Highlights are just that and really didnt see much in terms of his weaknesses. I wouldnt be mad if the Sixers picked him at 16.

I like Markieff Morris tho. Philly bias. Like the toughness.

Data1000
06-02-2011, 03:36 PM
Sports is entertainment and with Rubio around next year, the NBA became a little more entertaining.

Dbrog
06-02-2011, 03:43 PM
Still laughing @ Navarro. Dude is barely six foot tall, can't pass the ball without turning it over and is a volume shooter at a 40% clip. That's awful. And we all knew before he came that this short midget chucker was not NBA material. Stay in the Euroleague brah, with all the other unathletic white boys and NBA rejects.

like jasicabiges or w/e haha. That guy was a hilarious chucker.

chips93
06-02-2011, 04:03 PM
He has a point. Not sure why we haven't learned yet after all the Euro failures.

because there are about as many failures that come from europe as from college

Foster5k
06-02-2011, 04:04 PM
One of the biggest bust in NBA history.

BankShot
06-02-2011, 04:05 PM
One of the biggest bust in NBA history.

Seriously?

1.) One would have to play in the NBA for a number of years before he can be judged a bust or not.

2.) Biggest in history? I'm sorry but for a #5 pick, at 19 or 20 or whatever, to be called the biggest bust ever is ludicrious when you have higher picked players that have done dog-shit in the league.

Run along now, son. :rolleyes:

Foster5k
06-02-2011, 04:10 PM
Seriously?

1.) One would have to play in the NBA for a number of years before he can be judged a bust or not.

2.) Biggest in history? I'm sorry but for a #5 pick, at 19 or 20 or whatever, to be called the biggest bust ever is ludicrious when you have higher picked players that have done dog-shit in the league.

Run along now, son. :rolleyes:
Basically, meant to say he will be one of the biggest bust. I'll make sure to bookmark this thread. I know how guys on here are. I've had to bump two heat threads so far and the same clowns that argued against me about the heat are nowhere to be found.

Godzuki
06-02-2011, 04:34 PM
He has a point. Not sure why we haven't learned yet after all the Euro failures.


Who else other than Rubio? some people acted like he was the next Stockton back when he was drafted. Rubio also acted like a premadonna by not wanting to play for the TWolves, and a select number of teams if i remember right.

I don't remember too many Euro players other than Darko that came out with all this hype. I still don't get how a back PG in Euroleague can be so hyped up by some NBA fans/team.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 04:36 PM
Who else other than Rubio? some people acted like he was the next Stockton back when he was drafted. Rubio also acted like a premadonna by not wanting to play for the TWolves, and a select number of teams if i remember right.

I don't remember too many Euro players other than Darko that came out with all this hype. I still don't get how a back PG in Euroleague can be so hyped up by some NBA fans/team.

Most of the European players drafted by the NBA are not even considered good players in Europe. FYI.

chips93
06-02-2011, 04:39 PM
Who else other than Rubio? some people acted like he was the next Stockton back when he was drafted. Rubio also acted like a premadonna by not wanting to play for the TWolves, and a select number of teams if i remember right.

I don't remember too many Euro players other than Darko that came out with all this hype. I still don't get how a back PG in Euroleague can be so hyped up by some NBA fans/team.


same as all prospects

potential

if derrick favors had played in barcelona instead of georgia tech, he would have been a backup. the standard in europe is much higher in europe than the ncaa.

Is He Ill
06-02-2011, 04:44 PM
Because the NBA is actually about 1/3 as good as people in the USA think it is.

:roll: You are a delusional NBA hater. In fact, I'm pretty sure you are only saying that Rubio is a scrub so if he does indeed have success here, you can point out that one of the Euroleague worst players is a big time player in our garbage league. Nobody here cares or believes you.

kentatm
06-02-2011, 04:48 PM
:roll: You are a delusional NBA hater. In fact, I'm pretty sure you are only saying that Rubio is a scrub so if he does indeed have success here, you can point out that one of the Euroleague worst players is a big time player in our garbage league. Nobody here cares or believes you.

yup. its exactly what he is doing.

dude is going to "win" in his mind no matter what.

If Rubio sucks, he'll troll the board with Rubio hate and tell us how we were all wrong (when pretty much nobody is hyping him)

If the dude shows he has game, NoLinkYo will tell us all how awful the NBA is and how Euro teams have passed it by.

He has planned his hate perfectly.

Godzuki
06-02-2011, 04:58 PM
yup. its exactly what he is doing.

dude is going to "win" in his mind no matter what.

If Rubio sucks, he'll troll the board with Rubio hate and tell us how we were all wrong (when pretty much nobody is hyping him)

If the dude shows he has game, NoLinkYo will tell us all how awful the NBA is and how Euro teams have passed it by.

He has planned his hate perfectly.


he has a point tho given the way some NBA fans have hyped Rubio, and still hype him. I'm still puzzled by a backup euroleague PG being so hyped, especially given his pathetic stats. I've never seen a NBA player that was good that put up awful stats, ever.

I don't really want to take a side here but it seems to me the NBA fans that think Rubio is worth all the hype or defending him don't have much to stand on, other than i guess his play in the Olympics? Where at least Euroleague the poster has been pretty consistent in saying he's overrated/sux. Correct me where i'm wrong :confusedshrug:

kentatm
06-02-2011, 05:01 PM
he has a point tho given the way some NBA fans have hyped Rubio, and still hype him. I'm still puzzled by a backup euroleague PG being so hyped, especially given his pathetic stats. I've never seen a NBA player that was good that put up awful stats, ever.

I don't really want to take a side here but it seems to me the NBA fans that think Rubio is worth all the hype or defending him don't have much to stand on, other than i guess his play in the Olympics? Where at least Euroleague the poster has been pretty consistent in saying he's overrated/sux. Correct me where i'm wrong :confusedshrug:


where is the hype?

the only times I ever see anything about Rubio are when Lakas brings him up to hate on him and when TWolves fans make a post wondering if the dude will ever come over.

chips93
06-02-2011, 05:05 PM
he has a point tho given the way some NBA fans have hyped Rubio, and still hype him.


who are these fans hyping him? i've only seen loyal minny fans express some excitement as they should. i havent seen any hype in about two years.



I'm still puzzled by a backup euroleague PG being so hyped, especially given his pathetic stats.


he has court vision, passing, and handles that you cant teach. he has plenty of holes in his game. his future is based around 'potential' . the same potential that leads to a dwight howard or a darko milicic.

personally i think he'll get around 8 9 2, with good defense in time, but never a great jumpshot, hopefully eventually a good stand still shooter, similar to current j kidd

Is He Ill
06-02-2011, 05:05 PM
where is the hype?

the only times I ever see anything about Rubio are when Lakas brings him up to hate on him and when TWolves fans make a post wondering if the dude will ever come over.

Exactly, outside of T-Wolves fans, most NBA fans have never understood the hype surrounding Ricky Rubio.

Godzuki
06-02-2011, 05:08 PM
Well i guess i'm thinking from the time he was drafted since he had a lot of hype then, but now not so much. But still it seems like people iin the NBA in/around it make a big deal about him, even still.

Its like he's getting respect equivalent to a top 3 lottery pick, where its almost assumed he's going to be a starter and big key to the TWolves. Most 5-10 lottery picks don't even get that type of pre NBA clout.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 05:12 PM
:roll: You are a delusional NBA hater. In fact, I'm pretty sure you are only saying that Rubio is a scrub so if he does indeed have success here, you can point out that one of the Euroleague worst players is a big time player in our garbage league. Nobody here cares or believes you.

The Euroleague always has scrub players in it that were starters or 6th men on NBA playoff teams. Many NBA rotation players absolutely suck in Euroleague. Did you not actually know this?

Rose
06-02-2011, 05:12 PM
Exactly, outside of T-Wolves fans, most NBA fans have never understood the hype surrounding Ricky Rubio.
Because most NBA fans didn't watch the 08 Olympics.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 05:13 PM
where is the hype?

the only times I ever see anything about Rubio are when Lakas brings him up to hate on him and when TWolves fans make a post wondering if the dude will ever come over.

The US media hype on Rubio is relentless and constant.

US sports media (ESPN, Yahoo Sports, Sports Illustrated, Slam Magazine, Fox Sports) constantly call him "the best player in the Euroleague", "the best player on the best team in Europe" and other BS like that.

Draftexpress.com and NBADraft.net lied about him for YEARS before finally coming clean on him...........

NBA GMs regularly call him things like "special", "once in a lifetime player", "once in a generation player", "best point guard in history of Europe", "best Euroleague player of all time", "best player in Europe".............etc.

When he absolutely sucks in Euroleague.

It is clear that the NBA is just using him as a marketing tool to the Latin market and plans on creating another fake and totally manufactured "star" out of him.

He will probably shoot more free throws a game than Wade does, and be allowed to hand check on defense - and all the while, this "NBA star" would still be a POS player if he was being reffed normally.

Is He Ill
06-02-2011, 05:22 PM
The Euroleague always has scrub players in it that were starters or 6th men on NBA playoff teams. Many NBA rotation players absolutely suck in Euroleague. Did you not actually know this?

So what, there have been Euroleague MVPs and top players that have sucked in the NBA. It doesn't mean a thing.

LosBulls
06-02-2011, 05:29 PM
My opinion on this matter is that Rubio will be a great player in the NBA with All-Star appearances but not Best PG in the NBA Material. He has the potential to be the best passer in the NBA with a solid jumpshot and if he can develop a driving game where he can draw fouls at will then we can be looking at Top 5 PG potential. He has proven to play better against NBA players than he does against euros so I have no doubt that he will excel that the NBA level. My prediction for his prime is 17/14/3/3.

LosBulls
06-02-2011, 05:31 PM
The US media hype on Rubio is relentless and constant.

US sports media (ESPN, Yahoo Sports, Sports Illustrated, Slam Magazine, Fox Sports) constantly call him "the best player in the Euroleague", "the best player on the best team in Europe" and other BS like that.

Draftexpress.com and NBADraft.net lied about him for YEARS before finally coming clean on him...........

NBA GMs regularly call him things like "special", "once in a lifetime player", "once in a generation player", "best point guard in history of Europe", "best Euroleague player of all time", "best player in Europe".............etc.

When he absolutely sucks in Euroleague.

It is clear that the NBA is just using him as a marketing tool to the Latin market and plans on creating another fake and totally manufactured "star" out of him.

He will probably shoot more free throws a game than Wade does, and be allowed to hand check on defense - and all the while, this "NBA star" would still be a POS player if he was being reffed normally.

I totally agree with the bold part but do you have any proof of the media or GMs calling him the best player in the Euroleague? 2+ Please.

Is He Ill
06-02-2011, 05:35 PM
My opinion on this matter is that Rubio will be a great player in the NBA with All-Star appearances but not Best PG in the NBA Material. He has the potential to be the best passer in the NBA with a solid jumpshot and if he can develop a driving game where he can draw fouls at will then we can be looking at Top 5 PG potential. He has proven to play better against NBA players than he does against euros so I have no doubt that he will excel that the NBA level. My prediction for his prime is 17/14/3/3.

If he ends up averaging 14 assists, along with 17 points and 3 steals a game, how in the hell would he not be "the best point guard in the NBA material"?

LosBulls
06-02-2011, 05:37 PM
If he ends up averaging 14 assists, along with 17 points and 3 steals a game, how in the hell would he not be "the best point guard in the NBA material"?
Bad team record lol. Just like if you put Rondo on the Timber Wolves.

Is He Ill
06-02-2011, 05:39 PM
Bad team record lol. Just like if you put Rondo on the Timber Wolves.

Alright, I could see that, but if Rubio plays at that level and Love continues to excel, I don't see how they wouldn't at least compete for a playoff spot.

Godzuki
06-02-2011, 05:40 PM
My opinion on this matter is that Rubio will be a great player in the NBA with All-Star appearances but not Best PG in the NBA Material. He has the potential to be the best passer in the NBA with a solid jumpshot and if he can develop a driving game where he can draw fouls at will then we can be looking at Top 5 PG potential. He has proven to play better against NBA players than he does against euros so I have no doubt that he will excel that the NBA level. My prediction for his prime is 17/14/3/3.


I just don't get where this is coming from given his Euroleague stats, which are pitiful :confusedshrug:

kentatm
06-02-2011, 05:41 PM
The US media hype on Rubio is relentless and constant.

US sports media (ESPN, Yahoo Sports, Sports Illustrated, Slam Magazine, Fox Sports) constantly call him "the best player in the Euroleague", "the best player on the best team in Europe" and other BS like that.

Draftexpress.com and NBADraft.net lied about him for YEARS before finally coming clean on him...........

NBA GMs regularly call him things like "special", "once in a lifetime player", "once in a generation player", "best point guard in history of Europe", "best Euroleague player of all time", "best player in Europe".............etc.

When he absolutely sucks in Euroleague.

It is clear that the NBA is just using him as a marketing tool to the Latin market and plans on creating another fake and totally manufactured "star" out of him.

He will probably shoot more free throws a game than Wade does, and be allowed to hand check on defense - and all the while, this "NBA star" would still be a POS player if he was being reffed normally.

Everything in bold is BS. Its like you don't even watch or read basketball coverage from the US. Its not even hard to find made up crap with you. You just flat out make stuff up.

YOu want to know who has talked the most about RR on ESPN? Colin Cowherd who is constantly trashing the guy. Other than that, you RARELY hear about him. Infact, today was teh first time I have seen anyone outside of CC on ESPN mention Rubio since midway through the regular season and even then it was just Jon Barry making a snide remark about him never coming over.

Good god you are such weak sauce.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 05:56 PM
My opinion on this matter is that Rubio will be a great player in the NBA with All-Star appearances but not Best PG in the NBA Material. He has the potential to be the best passer in the NBA with a solid jumpshot and if he can develop a driving game where he can draw fouls at will then we can be looking at Top 5 PG potential. He has proven to play better against NBA players than he does against euros so I have no doubt that he will excel that the NBA level. My prediction for his prime is 17/14/3/3.

"best passer in the NBA"

http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics/individual/average?topic=Season_E2010&category=Assists

12th in the Euroleague in assists with 3 small forwards ahead of him in the stats.

"solid jump shot"

32% from the field and 22% from 3 point range in the Euroleague.........


"He has proven to play better against NBA players than he does against euros"

Funny, he sucked against USA in 2008 Olympics. He sucked against USA in the 2010 friendly game and it was because of his bad play that Spain lost the game.

He sucked against the Lakers when Barca played them. He almost caused Barca to lose. They won despite him. He was the worst player they had in that game.

What in the world are you basing these predictions on?

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 05:57 PM
I totally agree with the bold part but do you have any proof of the media or GMs calling him the best player in the Euroleague? 2+ Please.

They have been saying that for the last 4 years.

Euroleague
06-02-2011, 06:02 PM
Everything in bold is BS. Its like you don't even watch or read basketball coverage from the US. Its not even hard to find made up crap with you. You just flat out make stuff up.

YOu want to know who has talked the most about RR on ESPN? Colin Cowherd who is constantly trashing the guy. Other than that, you RARELY hear about him. Infact, today was teh first time I have seen anyone outside of CC on ESPN mention Rubio since midway through the regular season and even then it was just Jon Barry making a snide remark about him never coming over.

Good god you are such weak sauce.

You are damn liar.

It is US sports media that called him the next Nash the next Maravich, best European player since Petrovic, best Spanish talent of all time, etc.

ALL OF IT CAME FROM US MEDIA.

Just this season the NBA GM survey declared Rubio the best player on the planet outside of the NBA.

STOP LYING.

LosBulls
06-02-2011, 06:02 PM
I just don't get where this is coming from given his Euroleague stats, which are pitiful :confusedshrug:
I believe he does much better playing against NBA players in the NBA game. Also think of him getting all these foul shots..

LosBulls
06-02-2011, 06:17 PM
"best passer in the NBA"

http://www.euroleague.net/main/statistics/individual/average?topic=Season_E2010&category=Assists

12th in the Euroleague in assists with 3 small forwards ahead of him in the stats.

"solid jump shot"

32% from the field and 22% from 3 point range in the Euroleague.........


"He has proven to play better against NBA players than he does against euros"

Funny, he sucked against USA in 2008 Olympics. He sucked against USA in the 2010 friendly game and it was because of his bad play that Spain lost the game.

He sucked against the Lakers when Barca played them. He almost caused Barca to lose. They won despite him. He was the worst player they had in that game.

What in the world are you basing these predictions on?

You are retarded. The Leader in assists based off this chart only averages 6 per game. Rubio averages 4 while playing only 20 minutes a game and lets just leave out the 2 steals per game in 20 mins. Okay. The NBA and Euroleague are different types of basketball.
You then say he sucked in the 2008 Olympics. Are you serious? Chris Paul averaged 13/5/3 in 24 mins and Rubio averaged 5/5/5 in 28 Mins while being what? 17 years old?

R.I.P.
06-02-2011, 07:18 PM
EuroLeague and Ricky went to the same school. Euro was a 17 year old computer nerd, who just had his first girlfriend. Then 14 year old ACB star Rubio came along and told her, he wanted to show her his little Ricky and do the sex. Euro wanted to beat Ricky up, but Ricky kept throwing laser like assists to Euro

Reverend Hoops
06-02-2011, 08:36 PM
because there are about as many failures that come from europe as from college

As a ratio it is not even close.

http://www.nba.com/history/draft_international.html

Now subtract the "Euro" players who went to college.

BankShot
06-02-2011, 08:38 PM
As a ratio it is not even close.

http://www.nba.com/history/draft_international.html

Now subtract the "Euro" players who went to college.

In which direction?

Reverend Hoops
06-02-2011, 08:39 PM
In which direction?

Percentage of Euro busts is uncanny.

Rose
06-02-2011, 08:40 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]EuroLeague and Ricky went to the same school. Euro was a 17 year old computer nerd, who just had his first girlfriend. Then 14 year old ACB star Rubio came along and told her, he wanted to show her his little Ricky and do the sex. Euro wanted to beat Ricky up, but Ricky kept throwing laser like assists to Euro

BankShot
06-02-2011, 08:46 PM
Percentage of Euro busts is uncanny.

I'm sure its true.... but I'd love to see an actual quantitative breakdown of American vs. European players.

Something where a player could have a single metric that would represent a combination of their draft position, effectiveness in the league (PER or whatever kind of amalgamation of statistical relevance), and how long they stayed in the league.

Then, you could take an average value for each draft position, and figure out how often a Euro player and an American player is above/below the average/replacement-value of each spot.

BankShot
06-02-2011, 08:46 PM
Percentage of Euro busts is uncanny.

I'm sure its true.... but I'd love to see an actual quantitative breakdown of American vs. European players.

Something where a player could have a single metric that would represent a combination of their draft position, effectiveness in the league (PER or whatever kind of amalgamation of statistical relevance), and how long they stayed in the league.

Then, you could take an average value for each draft position, and figure out how often a Euro player and an American player is above/below the average/replacement-value of each spot.

DKLaker
06-02-2011, 09:06 PM
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FireDavidKahn
06-02-2011, 09:21 PM
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
People can forget idea of MInny trading Ricky Rubio. His camp has no designs on bigger market, believe Wolves are invested in his success.
13 minutes ago Favorite Retweet Reply


haha. Gotta love the whole "Ricky will never play for MN and will demand a trade" vibe the media was spouting for 2 years. Now, a couple days after he signs, everything is the exact opposite.:banana: :banana:

kumquat
06-02-2011, 09:24 PM
I just get this feeling Luke Ridnour will shit all over Rubio.

FireMcFailPlease
06-02-2011, 09:26 PM
haha. Gotta love the whole "Ricky will never play for MN and will demand a trade" vibe the media was spouting for 2 years. Now, a couple days after he signs, everything is the exact opposite.:banana: :banana:

that would also include knicks fans.

ENDORSEMENTS! :roll:

B-Easy8
06-02-2011, 10:11 PM
I just don't get where this is coming from given his Euroleague stats, which are pitiful :confusedshrug:

The Euroleague game is so different to the NBA, stats don't correlate. They play 10 minute quarters, the game is way more physical and it is way more team oriented, there is exceptional ball movement and more post play instead of the iso's you see in the NBA.

Jennings averaged something like 5 and 1 in the euroleague and then came to the NBA and dropped 55.

kentatm
06-02-2011, 10:17 PM
You are damn liar.

It is US sports media that called him the next Nash the next Maravich, best European player since Petrovic, best Spanish talent of all time, etc.

ALL OF IT CAME FROM US MEDIA.

Just this season the NBA GM survey declared Rubio the best player on the planet outside of the NBA.

STOP LYING.

:roll:

nope. you're the one that makes stuff up without ever proving it.

where are the people saying he was going to be amazing like those stars?

sirkeelma
06-02-2011, 10:37 PM
Ricky Rubio/Luke Ridnour/Jonny Flynn
Wes Johnson/Martell Webster/Wayne Ellington
Michael Beasley/Derrick Williams/Lazar Hayward
Kevin Love/Anthony Randolph/Anthony Tolliver
Darko Milicic/Nikola Pekovic

That's actually not a bad team. Rubio didn't have a great year in Europe though.
It's a bad team if you're in the West.

Euroleague
06-03-2011, 03:36 PM
You are retarded. The Leader in assists based off this chart only averages 6 per game. Rubio averages 4 while playing only 20 minutes a game and lets just leave out the 2 steals per game in 20 mins. Okay. The NBA and Euroleague are different types of basketball.
You then say he sucked in the 2008 Olympics. Are you serious? Chris Paul averaged 13/5/3 in 24 mins and Rubio averaged 5/5/5 in 28 Mins while being what? 17 years old?

This is ridiculous. You have never seen Rubio play. That is painfully obvious.

Euroleague
06-03-2011, 03:37 PM
[QUOTE=R.I.P.]EuroLeague and Ricky went to the same school. Euro was a 17 year old computer nerd, who just had his first girlfriend. Then 14 year old ACB star Rubio came along and told her, he wanted to show her his little Ricky and do the sex. Euro wanted to beat Ricky up, but Ricky kept throwing laser like assists to Euro

Euroleague
06-03-2011, 03:39 PM
:roll:

nope. you're the one that makes stuff up without ever proving it.

where are the people saying he was going to be amazing like those stars?

Back to ignore list. I don't tolerate liars.