Strongest Players of All Time For Each Position

[Round Mound]

Your say

[jlauber]

Just google Wilt...and then you tell me...

[Round Mound]

Just google Wilt...and then you tell me...

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[L.Kizzle]

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[28renyoy]

Just google Wilt...and then you tell me...

Shaq would break Wilt like a toothpick

[PHILA]

Shaq would break Wilt like a toothpick

:facepalm


The Miami News - Nov 7, 1962 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=1XYyAAAAIBAJ&sjid=2OkFAAAAIBAJ&pg=2229,2425147&dq)

'He can clean and jerk a 375-lb. weight, run the quarter mile in 47s, and high-jump over 6-11.'


Sports Illustrated - March 2, 1964 (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1075691/2/index.htm)

'The St. Louis Hawks' 6-foot-9, 240-pound Zelmo Beaty, for example, found out recently that he can no longer take Chamberlain's great strength for granted. Unable to slow Wilt down with conventional maltreatment, Beaty tried to yank his shorts off. Chamberlain, who can press 400 pounds without breathing hard, makes it a point to control his temper, primarily because he is genuinely afraid he might kill somebody. Beaty's unethical yank, however, was too much. Wilt flicked an arm, and Beaty flew across the floor like a man shot out of a cannon. Referee Mendy Rudolph rushed over to him and said: "For God's sake, stay down, man. Don't even twitch a muscle." Beaty didn't twitch, and he is still active in the NBA.'



The Evening Independent - Sep 15, 1966 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_dkLAAAAIBAJ&sjid=QlcDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7163,2399606&dq)

'Chamberlain, like Brown, is a great athlete and seriously considered becoming a fighter a year and a half ago. Wilt and Jimmy have competed against each other in foot races and tests of strength.

"I'd rather fight Clay than Wilt," Brown said. "Chamberlain's too big and he's too strong, but I'm no fighter. I'm saving whatever fighting I've got to do for the Dirty Dozen."'



St. Petersburg Times - Feb 25, 1969 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=gPoNAAAAIBAJ&sjid=w3sDAAAAIBAJ&pg=7049,3815406&dq)

'Wilt Chamberlain is probably the first giant in history to be able to break 50 seconds in the 440, win a Big Eight high-jump title and be able to set a pick. In fact, he may not be a true giant. Medicine has taken the mystery out of gigantism. Most giants of the past were physical weaklings. Some were 90 percent legs. Wilt Chamberlain, by common consent, is the world's strongest man.'

The Evening Independent - Jan 6, 1967 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=TSMoAAAAIBAJ&sjid=S1cDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2229,911381&dq)

"I'd bet you $1,000 I could lift 1,000 pounds," the 76ers singular 7-1 center said, "I have. I've also hand-wrestled two men at the same time and beat them. And there's nothing I'd like to do better than play pro football."



Ocala Star-Banner - Sep 17, 1975 (http://news.google.com/newspapers?id=_R8TAAAAIBAJ&sjid=lAUEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6593,3084647&dq)

'As inconspicuously as possible for a 7-foot 1-inch impresario, Wilt Chamberlain stopped by the New York Knicks' office for a quick social hello and now he was waiting for an elevator that would take him upstairs to the Madison Square Garden arena floor. When the elevator doors opened, Wilt stepped back as two husky workmen struggled to wheel a heavily loaded dolly into the corridor. On the dolly there were 10 big cartons of envelopes. For perhaps a minute the workmen pushed and pulled, trying to get the wheels of the dolly across the uneven gap between the elevator and the floor, huffing and puffing, they finally dropped their hands in frustration. "You look," Wilt said, "like you need a little help," His massive arms unencumbered by a chocolate sleeveless shirt, he reached down, grabbed the rope attached to the dolly and lifted the load into the corridor as if it had been a baby in a stroller. The workmen stared and thanked him. Wilt smiled, entered the elevator and the doors closed.

"I never saw anything like that," one of the workmen said. "These carton each weight about 80 pounds. This is an 800 pound load."

That's the approximate weight of four Knick teammates. And if Wilt were to join the Knicks for the approaching National Basketball Association season, he believes he could lift the team into contention with the Boston Celtics for the Atlantic Division title.'


http://wiltfan.tripod.com/chat.htm


NBA legend Wilt Chamberlain 4-18-97


Host Chris_MSNBC2 says:
M3 says:
Question for Wilt...watched you bench press about 465 lbs like it was a match stick at the Stanford gym when you were working out there for some reason...how much can you still push up?

Host Wilt_Chamberlain says:
Well, probably I can push up a little more than that right now, because I was bench pressing some great weights. I was a shot-putter and lifting weights was a great joy to me. I liked to show off, I don't do that anymore, but I could probably bench press more than 465 pounds now.

[therammingman]

artest sf?

[Samurai Swoosh]

Just google Wilt...and then you tell me...
Weak.

C - Kareem
PF - Duncan
SF - Bird
SG - Jordan
PG - Magic

[TheCorporation]

Could Wilt really bench press more than 465?

That is an insane amount of weight to bench press.

[knightfall88]

Could Wilt really bench press more than 465?

That is an insane amount of weight to bench press.

Theres a lot of BS floating around with wilt, wasn't his vert supposedly 40" as well. Also how many women did he say he slept with?

[TheCorporation]

Theres a lot of BS floating around with wilt, wasn't his vert supposedly 40" as well. Also how many women did he say he slept with?

Exactly haha

465 is an INSANE amount to bench press, and he is saying he could do more than that. So we'll say 475 or so. That is near elite level body building #'s lol I think most aspire to hit 315 or 405 and thats if they focus on weight lifting all the time. But I guess it is possible for sure.

[Laimbeer_Rodman]

C:Shaquille O'Neal
PF:Karl Malone
SF:Larry Johnson
SG:Michael Jordan
PG:don't know,Rumeal Robinson? or maybe LBJ (i don't know what he's playin' but sure as hell ain't SF)

[blablabla]

artest for sf or maybe melo he is pretty strong

[Bogus_Sting]

Artis Gilmore is known as the strongest player ever.

[Bigsmoke]

i'm too young to know who the strongest in each position of all time... dumb question BTW anyway.

I'm just going to do right now


Nene
Amare
Artest
Wade
Deron Williams

[PHILA]

Artis Gilmore is known as the strongest player ever.

Boston Globe - Dec 9, 1992

"He's the strongest guy I've played against since Artis Gilmore. "He's a very solid 300 pounds. He's all man."



Christian Science Monitor - Jan 25, 1993

After the Celtics lost to the Magic, 113-94, Robert Parish said that in his 17- year career, only longtime Chicago Bulls star Artis Gilmore was physically stronger than O'Neal, but that Shaq was more athletic - "and that is a very scary thought," he said in mock seriousness.

[Bogus_Sting]

Boston Globe - Dec 9, 1992

"He's the strongest guy I've played against since Artis Gilmore. "He's a very solid 300 pounds. He's all man."



Christian Science Monitor - Jan 25, 1993

After the Celtics lost to the Magic, 113-94, Robert Parish said that in his 17- year career, only longtime Chicago Bulls star Artis Gilmore was physically stronger than O'Neal, but that Shaq was more athletic - "and that is a very scary thought," he said in mock seriousness.

Always love your research, brother.

[B]Sun Times - May 6 2011

[hovermaster]

artest for sf or maybe melo he is pretty strong

melo cant't even do simple crunches man!:roll: :roll: :oldlol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74-p8GMWoKM

[alenleomessi]

http://insideplays.com/Earl%20Boykins.jpg

[jlauber]

Theres a lot of BS floating around with wilt, wasn't his vert supposedly 40" as well. Also how many women did he say he slept with?

PHILA already posted a TON of articles elaborating on the strength of Chamberlain. And, as I said in my previous post...just GOOGLE Wilt (either strength or bench), and it is PLASTERED with page-after-page of 500+ to even 600 lb. bench presses.

BTW, that EYE-WITNESS account of Wilt benching 465 lbs? Chamberlain was 59 years old at the time. Also, in Robert Cherry's book on Wilt, he interviewed a weight-lifter that was 6-5 250 lbs, and was known to have benched 500+ lbs...and even that guy claimed that Wilt was the strongest man he ever saw.

As for Wilt's 40" vertical...if anything, that is LOW. Here again, just GOOGLE his vertical leap. You will find results as high as 60". Now, I am not stating that Wilt could bench press 600 lbs, or had a vertical of 60", but here again, there were EYE-WITNESS accounts of Wilt touching the top of the backboard. There are articles claiming that Chamberlain was dunking on a 12 ft. rim at KU in the 50's (and doesn't it seem odd that his coach at the time, would suddenly put up a 12 ft basket?) And the NBA outlawed the dunking of FT's just BEFORE Wilt came into the league. And we KNOW that he was a college HIGH JUMP CHAMPION, (as well as a member of KU's long jump and triple-jump teams.)

But, aside from all of the MANY incredible examples of his strength, speed, and leaping ability...where are those that DISPUTE them? He played with MANY teammates, and HUNDREDS of opponents. He played with SEVERAL coaches, and against DOZENS more. The media hounded him from his college days to well past his NBA career. He had HUNDREDS of friends. And as truly likeable as he was, he must have made some enemies. Yet, where are those that DISPUTE these claims? You would think that someone that played with him, and heard or read these staggering feats, and who would have witnessed him failing at them (for example, "only" benching 400 lbs, but couldn'y get 425 up...or watching him take a try at touching the top of the backboard, and coming up short)...how come they didn't, or haven't, come forth?

In any case, I'm sorry, but for that claim that Shaq was stronger...PROVE it. I KNOW that I can find a TON of articles on Wilt's astonishing strength.

BTW, Wilt abused Gilmore in the '72 ABA-NBA all-star game...and even the announcers during the pre-game shoot-around mentioned that Wilt was noticeably bigger AND TALLER.

[mattevans11]

I remember hearing that Avery johnson could bench a rediculous amount of weight.... but i might be way off with this

[PistonsFan#21]

Weak.

C - Kareem
PF - Duncan
SF - Bird
SG - Jordan
PG - Magic

:roll: :facepalm

[az00m]

SG: Jordan / Carter? (Cant really think of any strong ones.)
SF: Rodman / Artest / James
PF: Malone / Anthony Mason
C: Shaq / Wilt

This is mason for people who dont know..

http://fansofmediocrity.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/amason_300_080412.jpg

[amdee]

PHILA already posted a TON of articles elaborating on the strength of Chamberlain. And, as I said in my previous post...just GOOGLE Wilt (either strength or bench), and it is PLASTERED with page-after-page of 500+ to even 600 lb. bench presses.

BTW, that EYE-WITNESS account of Wilt benching 465 lbs? Chamberlain was 59 years old at the time. Also, in Robert Cherry's book on Wilt, he interviewed a weight-lifter that was 6-5 250 lbs, and was known to have benched 500+ lbs...and even that guy claimed that Wilt was the strongest man he ever saw.

As for Wilt's 40" vertical...if anything, that is LOW. Here again, just GOOGLE his vertical leap. You will find results as high as 60". Now, I am not stating that Wilt could bench press 600 lbs, or had a vertical of 60", but here again, there were EYE-WITNESS accounts of Wilt touching the top of the backboard. There are articles claiming that Chamberlain was dunking on a 12 ft. rim at KU in the 50's (and doesn't it seem odd that his coach at the time, would suddenly put up a 12 ft basket?) And the NBA outlawed the dunking of FT's just BEFORE Wilt came into the league. And we KNOW that he was a college HIGH JUMP CHAMPION, (as well as a member of KU's long jump and triple-jump teams.)

But, aside from all of the MANY incredible examples of his strength, speed, and leaping ability...where are those that DISPUTE them? He played with MANY teammates, and HUNDREDS of opponents. He played with SEVERAL coaches, and against DOZENS more. The media hounded him from his college days to well past his NBA career. He had HUNDREDS of friends. And as truly likeable as he was, he must have made some enemies. Yet, where are those that DISPUTE these claims? You would think that someone that played with him, and heard or read these staggering feats, and who would have witnessed him failing at them (for example, "only" benching 400 lbs, but couldn'y get 425 up...or watching him take a try at touching the top of the backboard, and coming up short)...how come they didn't, or haven't, come forth?

In any case, I'm sorry, but for that claim that Shaq was stronger...PROVE it. I KNOW that I can find a TON of articles on Wilt's astonishing strength.

BTW, Wilt abused Gilmore in the '72 ABA-NBA all-star game...and even the announcers during the pre-game shoot-around mentioned that Wilt was noticeably bigger AND TALLER.

You obviously have the biggest man crush on Wilt.

Dude, I've seen you post the same stupid quotes from the same stupid articles claiming Wilts great strength and jumping ability.

You must be either very ignorant or just plain blind to see that these articles are very exaggerated.

Lets say that Wilt Chamberlain had a 40" vertical leap. And by vertical leap we are talking about a stand still vertical leap, right? That would mean that he could jump HIGHER than ANYBODY have ever been tested to do at the NBA Pre Draft Combine: http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?year=All&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=10

And that includes insane leapers such as Nate Robinson, a prime Vince Carter, Derrick Rose and I could keep going on. Even if the 40" vertical leap was a running leap he would still be near the top ever.

Now from what I've seen of Wilt my guess would be that he had a very solid vertical leap for a big man. Maybe around 30-32" stand still vertical leap, and that is the very max. Granted, I haven't seen footage of his supposedly athletic prime, but I'm pretty sure he didn't lose +10" on his vertical leap.

Don't let me get started on the strength exaggerations and his "cat-like quickness".. It is all stupid bullshit.

I don't know why you spend half your time trying to convince people the greatness of Wilt Chamberlain. We all know he was really good and way ahead of his time, but come on man.. None of these feats are for real.

[Ikill]

SG: Jordan / Carter? (Cant really think of any strong ones.)
SF: Rodman / Artest / James
PF: Malone / Anthony Mason
C: Shaq / Wilt
Wade and Joe Johnson are heavier/bigger than Carter and Jordan but i don't know if there stronger. Wouldn't being heavier make them stronger?

[jamal99]

I really don't buy most of that Wilt stuff...

[jlauber]

You obviously have the biggest man crush on Wilt.

Dude, I've seen you post the same stupid quotes from the same stupid articles claiming Wilts great strength and jumping ability.

You must be either very ignorant or just plain blind to see that these articles are very exaggerated.

Lets say that Wilt Chamberlain had a 40" vertical leap. And by vertical leap we are talking about a stand still vertical leap, right? That would mean that he could jump HIGHER than ANYBODY have ever been tested to do at the NBA Pre Draft Combine: http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?year=All&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=10

And that includes insane leapers such as Nate Robinson, a prime Vince Carter, Derrick Rose and I could keep going on. Even if the 40" vertical leap was a running leap he would still be near the top ever.

Now from what I've seen of Wilt my guess would be that he had a very solid vertical leap for a big man. Maybe around 30-32" stand still vertical leap, and that is the very max. Granted, I haven't seen footage of his supposedly athletic prime, but I'm pretty sure he didn't lose +10" on his vertical leap.

Don't let me get started on the strength exaggerations and his "cat-like quickness".. It is all stupid bullshit.

I don't know why you spend half your time trying to convince people the greatness of Wilt Chamberlain. We all know he was really good and way ahead of his time, but come on man.. None of these feats are for real.

The same familiar and STUPID Fatal9 posts. You and your suspicious 15 posts. And, yes, you have taken the time to not only read MY posts, but to then go out of your way and comment on them, as well. Why not take the time and challenge EVERY article that is PLASTERED on the internet while you are at it?

As for vertical leap...you tell me how MJ supposedly had a 44-48" vertical, or even Shaq with a supposed 37"...and yet I am supposed to believe a PART-TIME high-jump CHAMPION can only get to 32"? A man who reportedly was touching the top of the backboard, and dunking on 12 ft. rims, and who thru his reputation threw so much fear into the NBA, that they banned the dunking of FT's?

Another "anti-Wilt" moron. Give me some RESEARCH and get back to me when you can PROVE YOUR results.

[Ikill]

PHILA already posted a TON of articles elaborating on the strength of Chamberlain. And, as I said in my previous post...just GOOGLE Wilt (either strength or bench), and it is PLASTERED with page-after-page of 500+ to even 600 lb. bench presses.

BTW, that EYE-WITNESS account of Wilt benching 465 lbs? Chamberlain was 59 years old at the time. Also, in Robert Cherry's book on Wilt, he interviewed a weight-lifter that was 6-5 250 lbs, and was known to have benched 500+ lbs...and even that guy claimed that Wilt was the strongest man he ever saw.

As for Wilt's 40" vertical...if anything, that is LOW. Here again, just GOOGLE his vertical leap. You will find results as high as 60". Now, I am not stating that Wilt could bench press 600 lbs, or had a vertical of 60", but here again, there were EYE-WITNESS accounts of Wilt touching the top of the backboard. There are articles claiming that Chamberlain was dunking on a 12 ft. rim at KU in the 50's (and doesn't it seem odd that his coach at the time, would suddenly put up a 12 ft basket?) And the NBA outlawed the dunking of FT's just BEFORE Wilt came into the league. And we KNOW that he was a college HIGH JUMP CHAMPION, (as well as a member of KU's long jump and triple-jump teams.)

But, aside from all of the MANY incredible examples of his strength, speed, and leaping ability...where are those that DISPUTE them? He played with MANY teammates, and HUNDREDS of opponents. He played with SEVERAL coaches, and against DOZENS more. The media hounded him from his college days to well past his NBA career. He had HUNDREDS of friends. And as truly likeable as he was, he must have made some enemies. Yet, where are those that DISPUTE these claims? You would think that someone that played with him, and heard or read these staggering feats, and who would have witnessed him failing at them (for example, "only" benching 400 lbs, but couldn'y get 425 up...or watching him take a try at touching the top of the backboard, and coming up short)...how come they didn't, or haven't, come forth?

In any case, I'm sorry, but for that claim that Shaq was stronger...PROVE it. I KNOW that I can find a TON of articles on Wilt's astonishing strength.

BTW, Wilt abused Gilmore in the '72 ABA-NBA all-star game...and even the announcers during the pre-game shoot-around mentioned that Wilt was noticeably bigger AND TALLER.
Wilt Chamberlain was 7'1 that would mean he needs a 35 inch vertical to get his head to rim i've never seen his head at rim.

[jlauber]

Wilt Chamberlain was 7'1 that would mean he needs a 35 inch vertical to get his head to rim i've never seen his head at rim.

And you SAW EVERY game that Chamberlain played in...and ALL 48 minutes of each? And, in those you KNOW that he was going ALL out, as well?

[Ikill]

And you SAW EVERY game that Chamberlain played in...and ALL 48 minutes of each? And, in those you KNOW that he was going ALL out, as well?
i've seen his highlights his head was not close to rim not hating tho

[marion706]

i'm too young to know who the strong in each position... dumb question BTW anyway.

I'm just going to do right now


Nene
Amare
Artest
Wade
Deron Williams


joe johnson is stronger than wade

[CelticBaller]

this guy should be in everybody's list

http://lakersblog.latimes.com/.a/6a00d8341c506253ef0133f2365178970b-320wi

[PistonsFan#21]

Anyone who believes Wilt's vert was over 40 inches is ignorant or simply an idiot. If Wilt truly was the strongest, fastest and highest jumper in the NBA he would never need to use those ugly fade away jumpers of his.

He should also have been able to make over 80% of his FG attempt especially since he was playing agaisnt such weaker competition.

[jlauber]

Anyone who believes Wilt's vert was over 40 inches is ignorant or simply an idiot. If Wilt truly was the strongest, fastest and highest jumper in the NBA he would never need to use those ugly fade away jumpers of his.

He should also have been able to make over 80% of his FG attempt especially since he was playing agaisnt such weaker competition.

Yep...all he could do was put up SEASONS of .683 and .727. Just another example of Wilt's failed EXPECTATIONS.

[amdee]

The same familiar and STUPID Fatal9 posts. You and your suspicious 15 posts. And, yes, you have taken the time to not only read MY posts, but to then go out of your way and comment on them, as well. Why not take the time and challenge EVERY article that is PLASTERED on the internet while you are at it?

As for vertical leap...you tell me how MJ supposedly had a 44-48" vertical, or even Shaq with a supposed 37"...and yet I am supposed to believe a PART-TIME high-jump CHAMPION can only get to 32"? A man who reportedly was touching the top of the backboard, and dunking on 12 ft. rims, and who thru his reputation threw so much fear into the NBA, that they banned the dunking of FT's?

Another "anti-Wilt" moron. Give me some RESEARCH and get back to me when you can PROVE YOUR results.

The fact that you so blindly think that every ****ing positive article about Wilt is true is a testament to your stupidity.

Yes, MJ could probably jump around 45" running. Shaq probably never jumped higher than 35" - he doesn't need to.

Earl "The Goat" Manigault also "REPORTEDLY" touched the top of the backboard, and made a double-dunk. Do you also believe that?

One of the highest one-footed jumpers ever is James White. At 6'7" he can't even touch the top of the backboard, and he has been tested to jump above 45" running. Now look at these youtube-videos, and tell me that Wilt Chamberlain, even in his prime, could jump nearly as high as White.

James White attempts to touch 13 feet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElTzC2M34cY

James White gets head above rim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9vO8o-zL_Q&feature=related

Wilt dunks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RHD10nUqzk

[jlauber]

The fact that you so blindly think that every ****ing positive article about Wilt is true is a testament to your stupidity.

Yes, MJ could probably jump around 45" running. Shaq probably never jumped higher than 35" - he doesn't need to.

Earl "The Goat" Manigault also "REPORTEDLY" touched the top of the backboard, and made a double-dunk. Do you also believe that?

One of the highest one-footed jumpers ever is James White. At 6'7" he can't even touch the top of the backboard, and he has been tested to jump above 45" running. Now look at these youtube-videos, and tell me that Wilt Chamberlain, even in his prime, could jump nearly as high as White.

James White attempts to touch 13 feet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElTzC2M34cY

James White gets head above rim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9vO8o-zL_Q&feature=related

Wilt dunks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RHD10nUqzk

What a complete WASTE of time. You post all of this nonsense...and then your PROOF is a EIGHT SECOND video of a Wilt dunk?????

[amdee]

What a complete WASTE of time. You post all of this nonsense...and then your PROOF is a EIGHT SECOND video of a Wilt dunk?????

YES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ACTUAL FOOTAGE OF HIM JUMPING HIGH

[amdee]

And by the way

Why no comment about the other 20 lines I wrote that made perfect sense?

[jlauber]

And by the way

Why no comment about the other 20 lines I wrote that made perfect sense?

Why? Because a 6-7 James White couldn't touch the top of the backboard? And yet a 7-1 (really 7-2) Wilt, with a VERIFIED 7'-8" wingspan could?

[jlauber]

YES BECAUSE THERE ARE NO ACTUAL FOOTAGE OF HIM JUMPING HIGH

Ahhh...I see then. That PROVES it. So, considering that Wilt played around 1200 NBA games (including playoffs), and another 40 college games...and nearly every minute of all of them...and because all we ever had of Wilt on video was maybe a few hours of his play...that that conclusively proves he couldn't do it?

Was Russell also a liar? He said he had his eyes at rim level? Was Sonny Hill, one of the most respected sports icons in Philadelpia a liar, since he claimed that he saw Wilt touch the top of the backboard. Or George Kiseda, a respected sportswriter who covered much of Wilt's career, a liar, when he claimed to have witnessed a Wilt leap, in which Chamberlain touched a ceiling, and afterwards he measured the leap as Wilt being 42" off of the floor?

I could go on, by why bother? You obviously have an agenda, like so many "anti-Wilt" posters, and even if I posted several pages of Wilt's physical feats, (which I could), and even though there has never been ONE LEGITIMATE account DISPUTING them...you would STILL go out of your way to refute them.

[amdee]

Why? Because a 6-7 James White couldn't touch the top of the backboard? And yet a 7-1 (really 7-2) Wilt, with a VERIFIED 7'-8" wingspan could?

So you are just gonna keep ignoring the fact that one of the highest jumping basketball players in 2011 can't touch the top of the backboard, but your big hero Wilt still could even though every single video shown of him just emphasizes the fact that he was a very average leaper?

Lets compare Wilt to JaVale McGee - very similar in length. 7'0" tall with a 7'6" wingspan. His max vert reach is 12'3" /http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-pre-draft-measurements/?year=All&sort2=DESC&draft=&pos=&source=All&sort=5 - he is about 20 lines down) and he is considered a very athletic big man. From what I've seen of Wilt he sure doesn't seem to jump any higher than McGee.

Are you gonna keep believing that Wilt was stronger than most professional lifters that dedicated their whole life to lifting heavy weights?

And multiply all of this with the fact that all of his so called accomplishments was 40-50 years ago. Human strength has evolved quite a bit since that time.

I'm not even gonna discuss with you anymore because you obviously don't know what you are talking about.

[amdee]

Ahhh...I see then. That PROVES it. So, considering that Wilt played around 1200 NBA games (including playoffs), and another 40 college games...and nearly every minute of all of them...and because all we ever had of Wilt on video was maybe a few hours of his play...that that conclusively proves he couldn't do it?

Was Russell also a liar? He said he had his eyes at rim level? Was Sonny Hill, one of the most respected sports icons in Philadelpia a liar, since he claimed that he saw Wilt touch the top of the backboard. Or George Kiseda, a respected sportswriter who covered much of Wilt's career, a liar, when he claimed to have witnessed a Wilt leap, in which Chamberlain touched a ceiling, and afterwards he measured the leap as Wilt being 42" off of the floor?

I could go on, by why bother? You obviously have an agenda, like so many "anti-Wilt" posters, and even if I posted several pages of Wilt's physical feats, (which I could), and even though there has never been ONE LEGITIMATE account DISPUTING them...you would STILL go out of your way to refute them.

Look, I couldn't care less about Wilt. I am just amazed at how you tirelessly keep on bigging him up for no obvious reason. You must be the one with hidden agendas.

[step_back]

PG Nate Robinson
SG JR Rider
SF Corey maggette
PF Karl Malone
C Ben Wallace

[PistonsFan#21]

PG Nate Robinson
SG JR Rider
SF Corey maggette
PF Karl Malone
C Ben Wallace

not sure if serious...

Jason Kidd would post him up at 38 years old without much effort
And Shaq would dominate Ben Wallace too fairly easily just because of his height and mass.

[step_back]

not sure if serious...

Jason Kidd would post him up at 38 years old without much effort
And Shaq would dominate Ben Wallace too fairly easily just because of his height and mass.

Are we talking pound for pound or overall?

[PistonsFan#21]

Are we talking pound for pound or overall?

Ohh my bad if it was pound for pound then yeah Nate would probably be in the discussion for strongest. Same with Ben Wallace (maybe even Chuck Hayes).

But if its only straight up the strongest players at their positions i would pick Magic at pg and Shaq at center

[Laimbeer_Rodman]

SG: Jordan / Carter? (Cant really think of any strong ones.)
SF: Rodman / Artest / James
PF: Malone / Anthony Mason
C: Shaq / Wilt

This is mason for people who dont know..

http://fansofmediocrity.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/amason_300_080412.jpg
Nice one ,i totally forgot about him.Mase was one strong sob

[DaHeezy]

Physical definition does not always mean strength. Gary Trent was able to press 485+ yet has absolutely no muscle definition. If this thread were about esthetics than most of you got it right.

On that note everyone should have Gary Trent as their SF/PF. One of the physically strongest men ever to play

[28renyoy]

Did Jlauber just said that people claimed Wilt Chamberlain had up to a 60" verticle? HIS GOD DAMN HEAD WOULD BE NEAR THE TOP OF THE BACKBOARD

[jlauber]

Did Jlauber just said that people claimed Wilt Chamberlain had up to a 60" verticle? HIS GOD DAMN HEAD WOULD BE NEAR THE TOP OF THE BACKBOARD

Of course...and I also stated that I did not believe EVERYTHING I read on Wilt, either. BUT, those that played with and against Wilt; those that coached for him, and against him; and the members of the media that actually covered Wilt, were the one's that were ATTESTING to MANY of his incredible physical feats. Where are the LEGITIMATE examples that DISPUTE them?

And where do these examples of 60" verticals and 600 lb. bench presses come from? It speaks volumes that they are out there at all. Clearly, Wilt MUST have been an INCREDIBLE athlete. A 7-2, 280-300 lb physical specimen of which there has been only one similar athlete that was remotely close since (Shaq...and even he was not as gifted as Wilt.)

If anything it is asinine to believe that he only had a 32" vertical, or that he somehow couldn't bench 425. If those were true, then SURELY someone would have come forth by now, especially since he has been dead for over 10 years.

[zay_24]

PG- magic
SG- Kobe
SF- Lebron
PF- Malone
C- Shaq

[Ikill]

Of course...and I also stated that I did not believe EVERYTHING I read on Wilt, either. BUT, those that played with and against Wilt; those that coached for him, and against him; and the members of the media that actually covered Wilt, were the one's that were ATTESTING to MANY of his incredible physical feats. Where are the LEGITIMATE examples that DISPUTE them?

And where do these examples of 60" verticals and 600 lb. bench presses come from? It speaks volumes that they are out there at all. Clearly, Wilt MUST have been an INCREDIBLE athlete. A 7-2, 280-300 lb physical specimen of which there has been only one similar athlete that was remotely close since (Shaq...and even he was not as gifted as Wilt.)

If anything it is asinine to believe that he only had a 32" vertical, or that he somehow couldn't bench 425. If those were true, then SURELY someone would have come forth by now, especially since he has been dead for over 10 years.
have you ever seen him get his head at rim

[DaHeezy]

Since I take the premise is physical power in each position I'll go

C- Shaq
PF- Barkley
SF- Lebron
SG- Mitch Richmond
PG- Baron Davis

Esthitics

C- David Robinson (Or Dwight Howard)
PF- Karl Malone
SF- Corey Maggette
SG- ?
PG- ?
SG-
PF-

[jlauber]

have you ever seen him get his head at rim

Let me put it to you this way. I never paid much attention. And so much of what was recorded on YouTube has been removed. For instance, they had an entire video illustrating his shot-blocking ability, and Wilt seldom ever had to go all out to block a shot. Hell, there were several effortless blocks on Kareem's sky-hook. BUT, there WAS one half of a game against the Bulls in the '71 playoffs, in which Wilt blocked several shots, and in one of them, and in a split-second decision, he went straight up to block a shot taken from several feet away. And in the slow-motion replay, Wilt's hand was above the square, and close to 12 ft. high. Why is that significant? Because he was 34 years old at them time, some 300 lbs, and playing on a leg that had had major knee surgery just the year before. Now, you tell me how high a 22 year old Wilt (that had been a HIGH JUMP CHAMPION at KU), at some 275 lbs, and with a full running start, could have gotten? Unfortunately, that was just another video that has been removed, or I would have LOVED to have posted it.

[inclinerator]

everything about wilt is fake!

[The Macho Man]

Wilt's a folk hero, That fool could touch the top of the shot clock. I remember a pro wrestling event back in the 70's Wilt made a special appearance and wrestled a real live gorilla, ragdolled that silverback too, I sh*t you not.

[Laimbeer_Rodman]

then he flew away carrying 3 girls ,1 on each hand ,1 on his d#@k

[step_back]

Since I take the premise is physical power in each position I'll go

C- Shaq
PF- Barkley
SF- Lebron
SG- Mitch Richmond
PG- Baron Davis

Esthitics

C- David Robinson (Or Dwight Howard)
PF- Karl Malone
SF- Corey Maggette
SG- ?
PG- ?
SG-
PF-

Forgot about Mitch and Baron!

I think Charles Oakley and Darryl Dawkins for the power forward posistion might be another.

Another mention would be Joey Graham, think he plays for the raptors currently?

[lebeast666]

PG: LeBron
SG: LeBron
C: LeBron
SF: LeBron
PF: LeBron

:confusedshrug:

[tazb]

PG: LeBron
SG: LeBron
C: LeBron
SF: LeBron
PF: LeBron

:confusedshrug:

http://i.imgur.com/MgiPL.jpg

[lebeast666]

http://i.imgur.com/MgiPL.jpg
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LoPS71y0JpQ/TQWLCW2K9hI/AAAAAAAABgw/dyhZHK8r_I4/s1600/huh.gif

[Laimbeer_Rodman]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LoPS71y0JpQ/TQWLCW2K9hI/AAAAAAAABgw/dyhZHK8r_I4/s1600/huh.gif
Popeye Jones?

[the even bigger black guy]

kevin willis

[Round Mound]

Barkley and Shaq for lower torso strength :bowdown: :bowdown:

[Bogus_Sting]

The fact that you so blindly think that every ****ing positive article about Wilt is true is a testament to your stupidity.

Yes, MJ could probably jump around 45" running. Shaq probably never jumped higher than 35" - he doesn't need to.

Earl "The Goat" Manigault also "REPORTEDLY" touched the top of the backboard, and made a double-dunk. Do you also believe that?

One of the highest one-footed jumpers ever is James White. At 6'7" he can't even touch the top of the backboard, and he has been tested to jump above 45" running. Now look at these youtube-videos, and tell me that Wilt Chamberlain, even in his prime, could jump nearly as high as White.

James White attempts to touch 13 feet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElTzC2M34cY

James White gets head above rim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J9vO8o-zL_Q&feature=related

Wilt dunks

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-RHD10nUqzk

David Thompson is widley credited to be able to touch the top of the board.

He also claims it himself. Check it out, young bucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQPVKQIFxVk

DT was only 6'4''.

[inclinerator]

David Thompson is widley credited to be able to touch the top of the board.

He also claims it himself. Check it out, young bucky.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQPVKQIFxVk

DT was only 6'4''.
i know u dont believe that

[Bogus_Sting]

i know u dont believe that

You calling him and people that he played with, against liars.

I obviously haven't seen him do it. But why do you deny it?

[inclinerator]

You calling him and people that he played with, against liars.

I obviously haven't seen him do it. But why do you deny it?
just like i call all those ridiculous claims about wilt lies.

[Reggie43]

Thunder Dan Majerle definitely deserves a mention at the shooting guard spot

[jlauber]

just like i call all those ridiculous claims about wilt lies.

Of course you have PROOF of that don't you?

How about these "lies"...

Wilt averaged 50 ppg in a season (and 45 ppg in another.) Or that he could scored 100 points in a game. Or that he had SIX games of 70+ points in his career, which is two more than ALL of the rest of everyone else who has ever played in the NBA...COMBINED. Or that Wilt had 32 60+ point games in his career, as well, which again, is two more than all of the rest of the NBA...combined. Or that Wilt averaged 40 ppg over his first seven seasons...COMBINED. Or that Wilt had a game of 55 rebounds (and against Russell, who only had 19 in the same game.) Or a playoff game of 41 (again, against Russell BTW.) Or that Wilt had a season of 27.2 rpg (and another two of 27.0 and 25.7.) Or that Wilt is the all-time CAREER leader in rebounds. Or that Wilt has 15 of the TOTAL of 28 40+ rebound games in NBA history (and a 7-1 H2H edge against Russell.) Or that Wilt had a post season of 30 rpg, Or that Wilt had a post-season series of 32 rpg (and again, against Russell, who averaged 23 rpg in that same series.) Or that Wilt had 55 40-30 games in his career, while the ENTIRE rest of the NBA in it's history, had SIX. Or that Wilt had 103 of the TOTAL of 128 30-30 games in NBA history. Or that Wilt had the ONLY FOUR 50-40 games in NBA history (including a monster 78-43 game.) Or that Wilt had an entire playoff series against Russell in which he averaged a 30-30 per game (actually it was 30-31.) Or that Wilt shot .727 in a season (and his .683 is the next best season of all-time.) Or that Wilt had the THREE highest "perfect games" in NBA history (15-15, 16-16, and 18-18.) Or that Chamberlain made 35 straight FGAs. Or that Wilt LED the NBA in scoring AND rebounding in the same season FIVE times. Or that Wilt LED the NBA in scoring and FG% in the same season, FOUR times. Or that Wilt led the NBA in rebounding AND FG% in the same season, EIGHT times. Or that Wilt LED the NBA in scoring, rebounding, AND FG% in the same season, THREE times. Or that Wilt, a CENTER, LED the NBA in assists one season (and came in third in another.) Or that Wilt has a RECORDED nationally televised game in which he blocked 23 shots. Or that the greatest stats-keeper in NBA history had Chamberlain with 25 blocks in another game. Or that that same stats maven had Wilt with SEASONS of 10+ bpg. Or that Wilt has FOUR of the FIVE highest FG% 60+ point games in NBA history, including the record of .829 in a 66 point game in which he shot 29-35.

Or that Wilt, at last count, held some 130 NBA records.

Or that Wilt led his '72 Lakers to 33 straight wins.

All LIES.

[Psileas]

Let me put it to you this way. I never paid much attention. And so much of what was recorded on YouTube has been removed. For instance, they had an entire video illustrating his shot-blocking ability, and Wilt seldom ever had to go all out to block a shot. Hell, there were several effortless blocks on Kareem's sky-hook. BUT, there WAS one half of a game against the Bulls in the '71 playoffs, in which Wilt blocked several shots, and in one of them, and in a split-second decision, he went straight up to block a shot taken from several feet away. And in the slow-motion replay, Wilt's hand was above the square, and close to 12 ft. high. Why is that significant? Because he was 34 years old at them time, some 300 lbs, and playing on a leg that had had major knee surgery just the year before. Now, you tell me how high a 22 year old Wilt (that had been a HIGH JUMP CHAMPION at KU), at some 275 lbs, and with a full running start, could have gotten? Unfortunately, that was just another video that has been removed, or I would have LOVED to have posted it.

I'd also add here some videos of impressive blocked shots back from his NCAA days, including a game-saving blocked shot that sent the 1957 NCAA Finals in the 2nd (I think) OT. A guy took a jump shot and Wilt, standing like 9-10 feet away took off and swatted it away when the shot was close to its apex. What's more impressive in a negative way is that, from what I've watched, this had to be by far the most spectacular play of that game (and among the most crucial, as well), yet I've only seen it in only one of the reviews/tributes, which shows what a mediocre job has been done when it comes to promoting such old games/players.
And of course, this was at WiltatKansas' channel that Youtube geniuses removed because of him adding a couple of unauthorized music videos (we know he was the only one that hadn't been "caught", after all, right? :facepalm ). I hope he re-uploads a shot blocking mix one day, at the very least.

[moe94]

LOL @ a 6'4 guard touching the top of the backboard. Footage doesn't exist for a reason and it's not because of technology. Believe that.

[KingBeasley08]

Wilt :oldlol:

Shaq could destroy him with one hand

[Burgz]

wes unseld

[Burgz]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_LoPS71y0JpQ/TQWLCW2K9hI/AAAAAAAABgw/dyhZHK8r_I4/s1600/huh.gif

popeyes jones!

[jlauber]

I'd also add here some videos of impressive blocked shots back from his NCAA days, including a game-saving blocked shot that sent the 1957 NCAA Finals in the 2nd (I think) OT. A guy took a jump shot and Wilt, standing like 9-10 feet away took off and swatted it away when the shot was close to its apex. What's more impressive in a negative way is that, from what I've watched, this had to be by far the most spectacular play of that game (and among the most crucial, as well), yet I've only seen it in only one of the reviews/tributes, which shows what a mediocre job has been done when it comes to promoting such old games/players.
And of course, this was at WiltatKansas' channel that Youtube geniuses removed because of him adding a couple of unauthorized music videos (we know he was the only one that hadn't been "caught", after all, right? :facepalm ). I hope he re-uploads a shot blocking mix one day, at the very least.


I agree 100%.

The fact is/was...there is/was very limited footage of Chamberlain's career. And I get a kick out of some of these posters who claim that they have not seen any footage with Wilt's head at rim level. When his compilation of his great shot blocking ability was on YouTube, he simply BLOCKED the shot. He leaped high enough to BLOCK the damn shot...including several of the MANY blocks on Kareem's "unblockable" sky-hook. What else was he supposed to do...leap as high as he could, and block the shot with his chest? If anything, the footage displayed Wilt's amazing athleticism by the fact that he seldom even had to go all out to block shots, or grab rebounds, or dunk put-backs. And, BTW, take a look at his dunks. NEVER any rim-shaking dunks in any of them. Why? Because he was always afraid that he might injure someone else. Even Russell commented that Wilt used to ease up, even when Russell blocked his dunk attempt, to keep from seriously hurting him.

In any case, Wilt played in an era where there was just not much footage available, and yet, there were a TON of EYE-WITNESS accounts which verified his amazing physical feats. And, once again, NOT ONE LEGITIMATE source ever came forward and DISPUTED them. Seems hard to believe that one man could single-handedly drum up all of these myths without SOMEONE disputing them, doesn't it?

[az00m]

Strongest lower body was prob dennis rodman for pound to pound

[Scholar]

I know Earl Boykins can bench press over 300 lbs. :confusedshrug: The guy is roughly 3-4 inches shorter than me.

[Helix]

Jlauber and Psileas..........if you guys don't have that Wilt shot blocking video, I have it and can send it to you if you want it. It's about 27 Mb's and I can send it by email.

Being 57 and having seen Chamberlain play live many times back in the 60's and into the 70's, I can't help laughing at some of the pathetic disparaging remarks made about Wilt on this forum. There is no one.....NO ONE.....playing today that could even come close to matching up to Chamberlain. He might not average 50 ppg and 26 rpg, but he would be by far the most dominating force in the NBA today.

[jlauber]

Jlauber and Psileas..........if you guys don't have that Wilt shot blocking video, I have it and can send it to you if you want it. It's about 27 Mb's and I can send it by email.

Being 57 and having seen Chamberlain play live many times back in the 60's and into the 70's, I can't help laughing at some of the pathetic disparaging remarks made about Wilt on this forum. There is no one.....NO ONE.....playing today that could even come close to matching up to Chamberlain. He might not average 50 ppg and 26 rpg, but he would be by far the most dominating force in the NBA today.

Great post!

I tried to send you a PM, but it says that you are not receiving any. When you get set up, let me know.

BTW, I am 56 and I too saw MANY of Wilt's games (at least from about '64 on), including THREE games that I attended LIVE. He was the most dominating player in the history of the sport, and had he had a mean bone in his body he would have just completely OBLITERATED the NBA, instead of just being LIGHT YEARS better than his peers.

[Helix]

Great post!

I tried to send you a PM, but it says that you are not receiving any. When you get set up, let me know.

BTW, I am 56 and I too saw MANY of Wilt's games (at least from about '64 on), including THREE games that I attended LIVE. He was the most dominating player in the history of the sport, and had he had a mean bone in his body he would have just completely OBLITERATED the NBA, instead of just being LIGHT YEARS better than his peers.


Not sure what's up with the PM stuff, but I sent you an email through the forum.

[Round Mound]

In a thred someone mentioned that Shaq and Barkley could legg lift 1000 lbs

True?

[fpliii]

Artis Gilmore is known as the strongest player ever.

:applause: