2nd best player of the kobe era?

[zay_24]

I would say this era starts from 2000-2001 season to 2009-2010. This time period was KOBES point blank.

Now who is the 2nd best player during this stretch?

Shaq- 2 finals mvps, 3 rings

Duncan- 2 finals mvps, 3 rings, 2 mvps

AI- 1 MVP, finals, 3 scoring titles

Wade- 1 finals MVP, scoring title

Lebronze- 2 mvp, finals, scoring title

[thatoneblackguy]

Kobe
Duncan
Shaq


Why the **** are Lebron and Wade even on the list? :facepalm

[schism206]

Shaq- 2 finals mvps, 3 rings



didn't shaq win 4 rings?

[zay_24]

didn't shaq win 4 rings?
2001-2010

[AlphaWolf24]

Duncan
Nash
Wade
Lebron
TMAC
AI
KIDD
Carter
Garnett
Parker
Shaq

[schism206]

2001-2010

"I would say this era starts from 2000-2001 season to 2009-2010. This time period was KOBES point blank."

you specifically said 2000-2001... if your going from 2001, then kobe has one less ring.

[FourthTenor]

There used to be a time when the disturbing obsession and overrating of kobe bryant was genuine. That was the time I liked to really roll up my sleeves and argue with his creepy fanboys.

Now it's just forced for the purpose of trolling. It's completely lost its charm and I've lost the interest to bother.

[zay_24]

"I would say this era starts from 2000-2001 season to 2009-2010. This time period was KOBES point blank."

you specifically said 2000-2001... if your going from 2001, then kobe has one less ring.
The 2000-2001 season.

[Doranku]

There used to be a time when the disturbing obsession and overrating of kobe bryant was genuine. That was the time I liked to really roll up my sleeves and argue with his creepy fanboys.

Now it's just forced for the purpose of trolling. It's completely lost its charm and I've lost the interest to bother.

Yet you still find the interest to b*tch and moan about it.

u mad

[schism206]

The 2000-2001 season.
gotcha

[AlphaWolf24]

There used to be a time when the disturbing obsession and overrating of kobe bryant was genuine. That was the time I liked to really roll up my sleeves and argue with his creepy fanboys.

Now it's just forced for the purpose of trolling. It's completely lost its charm and I've lost the interest to bother.


yup...Mad

[CJ Mustard]

:oldlol: There was never a "Kobe era".

[NBASTATMAN]

There used to be a time when the disturbing obsession and overrating of kobe bryant was genuine. That was the time I liked to really roll up my sleeves and argue with his creepy fanboys.

Now it's just forced for the purpose of trolling. It's completely lost its charm and I've lost the interest to bother.


AGREED... Dirk putting him and his STACKED team to sleep just shut that shit down..:applause:


His era was more like 2008-10

[AlphaWolf24]

The 2000-2001 season.

Best player in the NBA at only 22 years old:bowdown:


http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2173000/AlphaWolf-2173769_596_800.jpg

[zay_24]

:oldlol: There was never a "Kobe era".

?
Kobe is arguably the most popular NBA player in the world.

Not to mention his stretch..

2006- NBA scoring champ, all defensive first team
2007- NBA scoring champ, all defensive first team
2008- MVP, finals, all defensive first team
2009- Finals MVP, all defensive first team
2010- Finals MVP, all defensive first team

5 60 point games in this stretch i also believe, plus a gold medal
:bowdown:

[BEAST Griffin]

:oldlol: There was never a "Kobe era".

This.

Kobe was never clearly the best player in the league.

[asdf1990]

lol kobe era.. he was the best player in the league for 1 of the 10 years.

[AlphaWolf24]

:oldlol: There was never a "Kobe era".

when you play in 7 NBA Finals in the 00's as the premiere player in the NBA..and voted the "best player of the decade" by fans ....IMO that's enough to recognize game when it's in your face...


Kobe era definitive 2001 - 2010.....




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[zay_24]

This.

Kobe was never clearly the best player in the league.
:lol :lol
And here come the haters.

02,03, 06, 07, 08,09, 10

CLEARLY the best.
All defensive first teams, MVPS, finals MVPs, scoring titles not to mention several broken records in these years

[CJ Mustard]

:oldlol: Allen Iverson was the most popular player in the league at one point. I don't see any threads discussing the "AI era".

[zay_24]

:oldlol: Allen Iverson was the most popular player in the league at one point. I don't see any threads discussing the "AI era".
Not really, and plus he has no rings, thanks to Kobe and his sidekiccs eliminated the 76ers in the 01 finals :lol

[AlphaWolf24]

This.

Kobe was never clearly the best player in the league.

according to the biggest sports media outlet in the world in 2001 he was...

according to his peers he has been the best player well over 7 years now

according to fans he is the best player of the last 10 years...

according to a small % of online hardcore fans he was never the best player.....:rolleyes:




http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2174000/AlphaWolf-2174025_600_600.jpg



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[zay_24]

Lets not forget the so called "most dominant player in the league history" getting traded while Kobe was kept :cheers:

[sportstownusa]

Early 00's best player Shaq.
Mid 00's best player Duncan.
Late 00's best player Kobe/Lebron (take your pick).

there is no such thing as a kobe era.

Also, OP is clearly a troll. He made a thread about Duncan being overrated, etc. I think if we all ignore him, he might go away. You know what they say about retards....they take you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.

[sportstownusa]

according to the biggest sports media outlet in the world in 2001 he was...

according to his peers he has been the best player well over 7 years now

according to fans he is the best player of the last 10 years...

according to a small % of online hardcore fans he was never the best player.....:rolleyes:




http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2174000/AlphaWolf-2174025_600_600.jpg



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No wonder Magic has HIV.

[CelticBaller]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2174000/AlphaWolf-2174025_600_600.jpg

no wonder the **** got aids

[Heavincent]

Early 00's best player Shaq.
Mid 00's best player Duncan.
Late 00's best player Kobe/Lebron (take your pick).

there is no such thing as a kobe era.

Also, OP is clearly a troll. He made a thread about Duncan being overrated, etc. I think if we all ignore him, he might go away. You know what they say about retards....they take you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.

Yes there was. He was widely considered the leagues best player of the decade.

[thatoneblackguy]

no wonder the **** got aids
Actually, he got AIDS by banging 100 chicks a day. Nice try at trolling though. FAIL LOL :oldlol: OWNED your ass

[AlphaWolf24]

Early 00's best player Shaq.
Mid 00's best player Duncan.
Late 00's best player Kobe/Lebron (take your pick).

there is no such thing as a kobe era.

Also, OP is clearly a troll. He made a thread about Duncan being overrated, etc. I think if we all ignore him, he might go away. You know what they say about retards....they take you down to their level, and then beat you with experience.


7 NBA Finals in 10 years and voted player of the decade by the majority of the NBA Fanbase....yes there is.

[zay_24]

Actually, he got AIDS by banging 100 chicks a day. Nice try at trolling though. FAIL LOL :oldlol: OWNED your ass
you got dat nukka lookin like who did it n why cuzz:lol :lol

[CelticBaller]

Actually, he got AIDS by banging 100 chicks a day. Nice try at trolling though. FAIL LOL :oldlol: OWNED your ass
saying you owned me tells alot about your ego. Can't accept the fact that the picture is ultra gay and it's asking for an AIDS joke

Whatever makes you sleep at night princess

[AlphaWolf24]

no wonder the **** got aids

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2251000/AlphaWolf-2251120_390_555.jpg




but you......yup......mad.

[CelticBaller]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2251000/AlphaWolf-2251120_390_555.jpg




but you......yup......mad.
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2174000/AlphaWolf-2174025_600_600.jpg

Tell me this ain't the fruitiest picture ever. people in LA will laugh at you if they see you with this shit in your shirt

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k240/estebancastro/i_aint_even_mad_493.jpg

[AlphaWolf24]

Actually, he got AIDS by banging 100 chicks a day. Nice try at trolling though. FAIL LOL :oldlol: OWNED your ass


don't worry about Celticball....he can't stand seeing that picture and how it makes him feel.....trying to supress his own homosexuality by saying it's "gay" has become habitual for him.....

in other words...http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2153000/AlphaWolf-2153293_637_358.jpg

[thatoneblackguy]

don't worry about Celticball....he can't stand seeing that picture and how it makes him feel.....trying to supress his own homosexuality by saying it's "gay" has become habitual for him.....

in other words...http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2153000/AlphaWolf-2153293_637_358.jpg
:roll: :applause:

[AlphaWolf24]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2174000/AlphaWolf-2174025_600_600.jpg

Tell me this ain't the fruitiest picture ever. people in LA will laugh at you if they see you with this shit in your shirt

http://i89.photobucket.com/albums/k240/estebancastro/i_aint_even_mad_493.jpg


WTF?...I see my favorite player growing up and a the most famous Laker fan ever.....:confusedshrug:






you see sex......just come out already.....you won't be so angry.

[CelticBaller]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2174000/AlphaWolf-2174025_600_600.jpg
in other words...
http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2153000/AlphaWolf-2153293_637_358.jpg
fixed

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Kobe
Duncan
Shaq


Why the **** are Lebron and Wade even on the list? :facepalm

^^^this was the 2nd post in this thread.
There should not have been a 3rd post.

[CelticBaller]

WTF?...I see my favorite player growing up and a the most famous Laker fan ever.....:confusedshrug:






you see sex......just come out already.....you won't be so angry.
lol pointing out a sexual innuendo and making a joke about it makes me gay? :oldlol:
sorry for ruining your childhood :cheers:

[The Judge]

Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Dirk.

These were the three franchise players who were getting at least 50 wins EVERY YEAR.

[TimmyDuncan]

kobe stans being as arrogant as usual

And they don't understand why every non-lakers fans were happy when the lakers got swept

[DMAVS41]

Is there a Kobe era?

Shaq and Duncan dominated from 99 to 07. I guess 08 to 10 could be called the Kobe era because of his team success.

Does being the 2nd best player at best in the NBA over a 3 year span constitute an era? Not sure.

[zay_24]

kobe stans being as arrogant as usual

And they don't understand why every non-lakers fans were happy when the lakers got swept
Umm, we dont care?:roll:

17 rings, you mad?:lol

[AlphaWolf24]

lol pointing out a sexual innuendo and making a joke about it makes me gay? :oldlol:
sorry for ruining your childhood :cheers:


You see 2 men close together and think of sex.....that's ok....it doesn't make you a bad person.I know Shirt and Skins takes on a whole new meaning with you....but you can overcome.

"ruining my childhood".... no worries.....:cheers:


good luck with everything.

[Moneyshot]

saying you owned me tells alot about your ego. Can't accept the fact that the picture is ultra gay and it's asking for an AIDS joke

Whatever makes you sleep at night princess

Haha, you got owned *******.

[AlphaWolf24]

Is there a Kobe era?

Shaq and Duncan dominated from 99 to 07. I guess 08 to 10 could be called the Kobe era because of his team success.

Does being the 2nd best player at best in the NBA over a 3 year span constitute an era? Not sure.

Shaq was only 2nd best for 2 years...00' he was slightly better becuase Kobe was just too young....

by 2001 Kobe was widely considered the best allaround player in the NBA..and by far the #1 option in the 4th quarters....and had a historic playoff run in witch Shaq said himself Kobe was the best allaround player in the NBA.

[Ne 1]

I'm a homophobe and insecure about my sexuality

Oh.

[Heavincent]

Is there a Kobe era?

Shaq and Duncan dominated from 99 to 07. I guess 08 to 10 could be called the Kobe era because of his team success.

Does being the 2nd best player at best in the NBA over a 3 year span constitute an era? Not sure.

You're in the minority. Like I said, Kobe was widely considered the best player of the decade.

[CelticBaller]

Oh.
Cute

[Odinn]

You're in the minority. Like I said, Kobe was widely considered the best player of the decade.
For only his stans.

2000-09 decade;
Shaq as a leader; 4 finals, 3 rings, 3fmvps, 1 mvp
Duncan as a leader; 3 finals, 3 rings, 2fmvps, 2 mvps
Kobe as a leader; 2 finals, 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1 mvp

[Ne 1]

Cute

Celtics fan?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IAPsYFC5liU/Sag8xJFjC6I/AAAAAAAAApA/8mIPWBap69Y/s400/paul+pierce.jpg

Guess you immediately think homosexual thoughts when you see that picture too.

[Ne 1]

For only his stans.


So is that why Sporting News and TNT both named Bryant the player of the 00s?

http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2009-09-24/sporting-news-nba-athlete-decade-kobe-bryant-sg-lakers

[zay_24]

For only his stans.

2000-09 decade;
Shaq as a leader; 4 finals, 3 rings, 3fmvps, 1 mvp
Duncan as a leader; 3 finals, 3 rings, 2fmvps, 2 mvps
Kobe as a leader; 2 finals, 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1 mvp

Kobe played better in the WCF and against the spurs

[Odinn]

So is that why Sporting News and TNT both named Bryant the player of the 00s?
So you didn't quote the rest? Yeah, I knew you can not avoid the truth. But you can ignore it surely. :):hammerhead: :sleeping :violin:

[Heavincent]

For only his stans.

2000-09 decade;
Shaq as a leader; 4 finals, 3 rings, 3fmvps, 1 mvp
Duncan as a leader; 3 finals, 3 rings, 2fmvps, 2 mvps
Kobe as a leader; 2 finals, 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1 mvp

Nope, a lot of NBA players and coaches would probably tell you the same thing.

And lets not get into technicalities here. What I meant by decade was 2000-2010. So Kobe actually has 3 finals, two rings, 2 FMVPS, and 1 MVP as the undisputed leader as his team.

And I believe that Kobe and Shaq were 1A and 1B for two out of three of their rings playing together.

Also, Shaq was not the leader of that 06 Heat team. That honor definitely goes to Wade.

[zay_24]

Nope, a lot of NBA players and coaches would probably tell you the same thing.

And lets not get into technicalities here. What I meant by decade was 2000-2010. So Kobe actually has 3 finals, two rings, 2 FMVPS, and 1 MVP as the undisputed leader as his team.

And I believe that Kobe and Shaq were 1A and 1B for two out of three of their rings playing together.

Also, Shaq was not the leader of that 06 Heat team. That honor definitely goes to Wade.
2004 finals is what he's referring to

[Odinn]

Nope, a lot of NBA players and coaches would probably tell you the same thing.

And lets not get into technicalities here. What I meant by decade was 2000-2010. So Kobe actually has 3 finals, two rings, 2 FMVPS, and 1 MVP as the undisputed leader as his team.

And I believe that Kobe and Shaq were 1A and 1B for two out of three of their rings playing together.

Also, Shaq was not the leader of that 06 Heat team. That honor definitely goes to Wade.
2000-2010? Decade? 11 years?:roll:

Also, I said 4 finals, 3 rings about Shaq. Not 5 finals, 4 rings.

[CelticBaller]

Celtics fan?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IAPsYFC5liU/Sag8xJFjC6I/AAAAAAAAApA/8mIPWBap69Y/s400/paul+pierce.jpg

Guess you immediately think homosexual thoughts when you see that picture too.
I don't know. Do you have homosexual thoughts when you see this one
http://cdn.gossiboocrew.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/gay-kiss-kobe-bryant.jpg

[Heavincent]

2004 finals is what he's referring to

Oh my bad. I read that wrong.

[Heavincent]

2000-2010? Decade? 11 years?:roll:

I like how you didn't respond to the main point of my post.

[LBJWADE]

For only his stans.

2000-09 decade;
Shaq as a leader; 4 finals, 3 rings, 3fmvps, 1 mvp
Duncan as a leader; 3 finals, 3 rings, 2fmvps, 2 mvps
Kobe as a leader; 2 finals, 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1 mvp

Why arent you counting 2010 :facepalm

[Odinn]

I like how you didn't respond to the main point of my post.
Kobe was 1B in 2001, but we can argue about 2002. I think he was between 1B and 2. Can't say which one exactly IMO.

If we're talking about hole career runs as a leader;
Shaq as a leader; 5 finals, 3 rings, 3fmvps, 1 mvp
Duncan as a leader; 4 finals, 4 rings, 3fmvps, 2 mvps
Kobe as a leader; 3 finals, 2 ring, 2 fmvp, 1 mvp

Kobe is the last again. Duncan won 1999 and Kobe won 2010. One year before 00s and one year after 00s.

[Odinn]

Why arent you counting 2010 :facepalm
Because 2010 doesn't belong to 2000s decade.

[AlphaWolf24]

For only his stans.

2000-09 decade;
Shaq as a leader; 4 finals, 3 rings, 3fmvps, 1 mvp
Duncan as a leader; 3 finals, 3 rings, 2fmvps, 2 mvps
Kobe as a leader; 2 finals, 1 ring, 1 fmvp, 1 mvp


For only his Haters -

Kobe was far and away the leader in the 4th quarters of the first 3 peat
Kobe averaged 9.2 ppg on 64% shooting in fourth quarters. Shaq averaged 4.5 ppg on 29% ..so Kobe was def the "man" during the most important part of the game....and IMO more important overall.

during the 2001 WCF (the real NBA Finals Kobe was the best player of the series)

Kobe was widely regarded as the best player since 2001...
voted best player of the 00's....


http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2174000/AlphaWolf-2174025_600_600.jpg

(Celtic Baller = http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-sexy-smileys-944.gif)

[lilgodfather1]

Kobe was at best the 4th best player of the past decade. Shaq, Duncan, LeBron were all better players than him. Shaq was the best for '00-'01, '01-'02, '02-03, '03-'04, Duncan was the best from '04-'05, '05-'06, Kobe was the best player for the '06-'07 season, but after that LeBron has been the best player in '07-'08, '08-'09, '09-'10, and '10-'11.

Kobe really shouldn't even have an MVP.

[Odinn]

For only his Haters -

Kobe was far and away the leader in the 4th quarters of the first 3 peat
Kobe averaged 9.2 ppg on 64% shooting in fourth quarters. Shaq averaged 4.5 ppg on 29% ..so Kobe was def the "man" during the most important part of the game....and IMO more important overall.

during the 2001 WCF (the real NBA Finals Kobe was the best player of the series)

Kobe was widely regarded as the best player since 2001...
voted best player of the 00's....
Yeah. In that vote, Bron was ahead of Shaq and Duncan. Makes sense.:roll: :roll:
http://www.nba.com/alldecade/vote13/

Just a bad joke.:roll:

[lilgodfather1]

For only his Haters -

Kobe was far and away the leader in the 4th quarters of the first 3 peat
Kobe averaged 9.2 ppg on 64% shooting in fourth quarters. Shaq averaged 4.5 ppg on 29% ..so Kobe was def the "man" during the most important part of the game....and IMO more important overall.

during the 2001 WCF (the real NBA Finals Kobe was the best player of the series)

Kobe was widely regarded as the best player since 2001...
voted best player of the 00's....
Why is the fourth more important than the first? If someone scores 10ppg in the first, but only 5ppg in the 4th and someone else only scores 6ppg in th first and 8ppg in the fourth then the person that scores more in the first is more valuable. Shaq was clearly better than Kobe for anyone that can see. With or without stats Shaq was better, possibly than any player that has ever played during that time span.

[AlphaWolf24]

Yeah. In that vote, Bron was ahead of Shaq and Duncan. Makes sense.:roll: :roll:
http://www.nba.com/alldecade/vote13/

Just a bad joke.:roll:

Further proving my point that online hard core fans that view themselves as "basketball elitists" are a very small %.....

using flawed stats and complex formula's to prove Louis Williams is a better clutch player then Kobe...is silly.

and there's a reason that Most fans don't view sports/basketball in that light....in fact IMO elitists fans ruin sports as a whole.

Watching Shaq's whole career...he was a great player...But I would take Kobe , Duncan and LBJ over him....skill wise he lacked and relied mostly on size and strength....without Kobe played on over 6 , 50 win teams capable of winning a title...he won 1.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

This isn't just the Kobe Era.
This whole 2000-2010 is the Kobe Shaq Duncan Era!
As all of the finals those years featured at least one of them.

[rmt]

Kobe, Shaq, Duncan, Dirk.

These were the three franchise players who were getting at least 50 wins EVERY YEAR.

Revisionist history at its best.

04-05 34-48
05-06 45-37
06-07 42-40

There was no "Kobe era."

[Psileas]

Because 2010 doesn't belong to 2000s decade.

It probably does. In both Christian calendars, there's no "year 0", so decade counting goes from 1 to 10, not 0 to 9.

[Sarcastic]

If he wins the finals MVP this year, it will be Dwyane Wade.

[Bigsmoke]

hey was the best playing in the NBA for 3 years and now theres a "KOBE ERA"?

[The-Legend-24]

when you play in 7 NBA Finals in the 00's as the premiere player in the NBA..and voted the "best player of the decade" by fans ....IMO that's enough to recognize game when it's in your face...


Kobe era definitive 2001 - 2010.....




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Throwing facts at their face... :applause: :applause:





Celtics fan?

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_IAPsYFC5liU/Sag8xJFjC6I/AAAAAAAAApA/8mIPWBap69Y/s400/paul+pierce.jpg

Guess you immediately think homosexual thoughts when you see that picture too.
:lol :roll: :lol

[RRR3]

Besides 2005-06, is there any year you can make a legit argument for Kobe being the best player in the NBA? Even in 2005-06, he wasn't the clear cut best. So how can this be "the Kobe era" when he has never been the clear cut best player in the NBA?

[The-Legend-24]

Besides 2005-06, is there any year you can make a legit argument for Kobe being the best player in the NBA? Even in 2005-06, he wasn't the clear cut best. So how can this be "the Kobe era" when he has never been the clear cut best player in the NBA?
Like others have said, 7 Finals, 5 rings etc etc...

You lose.

[All Net]

Besides 2005-06, is there any year you can make a legit argument for Kobe being the best player in the NBA? Even in 2005-06, he wasn't the clear cut best. So how can this be "the Kobe era" when he has never been the clear cut best player in the NBA?

I think he was the best through 06-08 and top 3-5 in many years before that. You could argue he only dropped out of the top 3 this year.

[LA_Showtime]

Kobe was clearly the best player from 06-08. The Lakers traded for a borderline all-star and BOOM...mini dynasty.

[EricForman]

I would say this era starts from 2000-2001 season to 2009-2010. This time period was KOBES point blank.

Now who is the 2nd best player during this stretch?

Shaq- 2 finals mvps, 3 rings

Duncan- 2 finals mvps, 3 rings, 2 mvps

AI- 1 MVP, finals, 3 scoring titles

Wade- 1 finals MVP, scoring title

Lebronze- 2 mvp, finals, scoring title

The 2nd best Kobe era would be Duncan or Shaq. Kobe is third.

[gengiskhan]

Like others have said, 7 Finals, 5 rings etc etc...

You lose.

There is Jordan Era

& then there is

"Post-Jordan Era"

no such thing as "Shaq Era" "Kobe Era" "Duncan Era" "Lebron Era"

Inspirations, cheap immitations, copy cats cannot have eras named after them.

btw

kobe himself is 2nd or even 3rd-4th best player of '00-'09 Decade.

His ordinary finals performance san 2009 finals proves that point.

collecting 5 rings under shaq's shadow despite loosing 2 finals as favorites counts for little.

His 2010 finals performance is very little to even talk about. He was just pure average or even below average. despite being in his prime.

All this doesnt help him, actually hurt him as best player of the '00 decade.

'00-'09 Decade:

Best players as follows

1. Shaq (sheer dominance in early decade)
2. Duncan (most efficient)
3. Lebron = Kobe tie
4. Iverson = Wade

[LA_Showtime]

The only reason it's the Jordan era is because there was no competition. Bird and Magic fell off, and Shaq/Kobe/Timmy/etc didn't come on until Jordan's last few years.

[EricForman]

Some "Kobe era"

from that 9 year stretch:

he wasn't the best player, CLEARLY, on his own team for 3 years (1/3 of the "era")

he wasn't the best player in the league, CLEARLY, for at least 5 of the 9 years (more than 50% of the era)

his team got DESTROYED in the finals in 2004 and beat somewhat badly in 08. His team was the favorite both times going into series.

his team blew a 3-1 lead.

SOME ERA.

[EricForman]

The only reason it's the Jordan era is because there was no competition. Bird and Magic fell off, and Shaq/Kobe/Timmy/etc didn't come on until Jordan's last few years.

Yes, Jordan just got really lucky because all the players in his era was trash and every great player from the 80s SUDDENLY hit old age mysteriously in 1991.

Yes you're so right. Oh wait, wasn't Magic still virutally in his prime in 91? And how did the Pistons win back to back champs, including a dominating 1990 finals, but then suddenly became ancient by 91? I also coulda sworn the guys Jordan beat in the 90s were also playing damn well in the 80s alongside Magic and Bird.

Didn't Jordan, at 39 in 2002, more than held his own and was still a top 12 player in the league during the time when Tmac and prime Shaq and Kobe were running wild?

Yes, LA Showtime, you're right, Jordan totally couldn't have hung in the 80s or 2000s, he just got lucky and played in the 90s when bums like Chuck and Hakeem were playing.

Oh wait, didn't Hakeem and Chuck put up insane numbers, sh*t like 28/14/5/3 in the EIGHTIES?

:oldlol:

[RRR3]

Like others have said, 7 Finals, 5 rings etc etc...

You lose.

Great argument.

[RRR3]

I think he was the best through 06-08 and top 3-5 in many years before that. You could argue he only dropped out of the top 3 this year.

LeBron was right there with him in those years though.

[gengiskhan]

Some "Kobe era"

from that 9 year stretch:

he wasn't the best player, CLEARLY, on his own team for 3 years (1/3 of the "era")

he wasn't the best player in the league, CLEARLY, for at least 5 of the 9 years (more than 50% of the era)

his team got DESTROYED in the finals in 2004 and beat somewhat badly in 08. His team was the favorite both times going into series.

his team blew a 3-1 lead.

SOME ERA.

this

'00-'04 clearly belonged to Shaq. His sheer size & dominance was of modern day Wilt. he was unstoppable.

'07-'10 belong to Lebron. back-2-back MVPs. 2 60+ reg seasons & finals appearance as a sole lone warrior.

'00-'05 Duncan is there as 2nd best as most efficient franchise player. 2 MVPs. 3 Finals MVPs

'06 -wade is there with his wild PO & Finals Performance.

Kobe might actually be 3rd best of '00-'09 decade.

I always thought Kobe not winning '04 finals MVP & not having '08 MVP sweep (reg sea & Finals MVP) will actually hurt him

& it really does.

Imagine kobe having 7 rings with no finals losses & 3-4 Finals MVPs. Shaq's legacy was under threat as Kobe being the most dominant of '00-'09 decade

[The-Legend-24]

Jordan Era? Talk about weak ass competition, Old ass lakers without kareem, BLAZERS, SUNS, please....

:oldlol:

http://www.deviantart.com/download/168067186/Haters_gonna_hate__Kobe_Bryant_by_Mauryv.jpg

[LBJDWADE63]

Kobe was 1B in 2001, but we can argue about 2002. I think he was between 1B and 2. Can't say which one exactly IMO.

If we're talking about hole career runs as a leader;
Shaq as a leader; 5 finals, 3 rings, 3fmvps, 1 mvp
Duncan as a leader; 4 finals, 4 rings, 3fmvps, 2 mvps
Kobe as a leader; 3 finals, 2 ring, 2 fmvp, 1 mvp

Kobe is the last again. Duncan won 1999 and Kobe won 2010. One year before 00s and one year after 00s.

Ulan odinn bikmadin su Duncan i savunmaktan.

[RRR3]

Jordan Era? Talk about weak ass competition, Old ass lakers without kareem, BLAZERS, SUNS, please....

:oldlol:

Bitch please.
http://media.syracuse.com/sports/photo/9148912-large.jpg

[Big#50]

Shaq with Kobe being number three.

[RRR3]

Take a nap, child.

http://blog.cleveland.com/bransonwright/2009/03/large_44590203.jpg

[RRR3]

http://3432-philly.voxcdn.com/files/2011/02/obama-you-mad.jpg

Don't cry.http://fourhorsementattoo.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/kobe-crying.jpg

[AirTupac]

Take a nap, child.

http://blog.cleveland.com/bransonwright/2009/03/large_44590203.jpg

Rest in peace, kid.

http://news.sportsinteraction.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1341/files/2011/02/kobe-dunking-lebron.jpg

[RRR3]

Rest in peace, kid.

http://news.sportsinteraction.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1341/files/2011/02/kobe-dunking-lebron.jpg

All you can do is watch, son.

http://www.morningjournal.com/content/articles/2009/12/26/sports/doc4b3585b5a70576917422332.jpg

[AirTupac]

http://www.dailynewsonweb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Kobe-MVP.jpg

[RRR3]

http://www.fulcrumgallery.com/product-images/P670339-01/kobe-bryant-2010-nba-finals-game-7-championship-trophy5-fingers-in-studio27.jpg

All he can do is CRY

http://thesportspin.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/lebron-crying.jpg

All Kobe can do is watch LeBron score on him. :lol http://kenyahoops.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/2e34b9f6a5a7891de3d878ab82f65e8c-getty-90043311_dlk025_cavs_v_lake.jpg

[ThaSwagg3r]

http://i52.tinypic.com/znwtwg.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs558.ash1/32531_1375902761563_1351672542_31078996_2271039_n. jpg

http://www.lebronshames.com/dirtylaundry/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/JustDoIt1.jpg

[RRR3]

http://i52.tinypic.com/znwtwg.jpg

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs558.ash1/32531_1375902761563_1351672542_31078996_2271039_n. jpg

http://www.lebronshames.com/dirtylaundry/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/JustDoIt1.jpg

Good thing they joined forces. http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_vhwxA1psuxE/SjUBHwRAaaI/AAAAAAAAAPY/H3VyfzuEFtM/s400/lebron+block+wade.jpg

[G-Funk]

You better put Dirk Ahead of both Wade & Lebron

[AirTupac]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_X3X-pfQGdZI/TMehwcN-flI/AAAAAAAAAFA/Tx7zvy8p_HU/s1600/damon-and-lebron.jpg
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-N_q6lidfJTA/TfYpaf_OPzI/AAAAAAAABXM/6uC5hCr93qg/s1600/lebron+sad+miami+heat+finals+mavs.bmp
http://www.clevescene.com/images/blogimages/2011/03/07/1299517897-lebron-wade-sad.jpg
http://keepittrill.com/videos/wp-content/uploads/2011/03/lebron-james-cartoon.jpg
http://o.aolcdn.com/dims-global/dims3/MWAP/resize/240x180/format/jpg/http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvonsports.com/media/2010/06/kingkobe.bv.jpg

[Big164]

Kobe was the 2nd best player of the Kobe era.

2001-2004 SHAQ
2004-2007 Duncan
2007-2010 Lebron


He was 2nd best throughout.

[AlphaWolf24]

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2173000/AlphaWolf-2173777_597_582.jpg

Best Player in the world at 22 years old...

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2173000/AlphaWolf-2173769_596_800.jpg

Forged from the alltime greats...

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2195000/AlphaWolf-2195680_500_800.jpg

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2174000/AlphaWolf-2174050_423_593.jpg

Started and ended the decade the same way.....

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2173000/AlphaWolf-2173809_368_581.jpg

There will never be another...

http://images2.fanpop.com/images/user_images/AlphaWolf-572152_730_540.jpg



The Kobe era!....all of us should give thanks we were here.




next

[tpols]

lol at all you clowns breaking shit down year by year thinking this had anything to do with that. The fact is Kobe was the fan favorite basketball player on earth from 2001 to 2010 by all of the fans, media, and sportsworld.

Kobe was getting 'next Jordan' hype since before 2001, but specifically in that year too because of his insane production, defense, and clutch performances.

Then he had his 'Jordan' moments where he put on some of the most amazing scoring/basketball performances in the history of the game in the 06 to 08 span. Mad hype here too.. haters all said he couldn't win w/o Shaq

He wins w/o Shaq. Twice.. and with some of the best perimeter player playoff statlines/performances in the history of the game[for those who also won the FMVP].

This whole era in the media was about Kobe. He was the head story.. the Jordan hype-->the Jordan individual performances-->the winning. Kobe copied MJ's career, except in a much smaller volume[he had less great individual years and less winning overall]. Shaq and Duncan didn't catch near the amount of attention as Kobe from 2001 to 2010.

[tpols]

And Lebron was the second best basketball player from 2001 to 2010 era.

[purplch0de]

And Lebron was the second best basketball player from 2001 to 2010 era.

i hope this shit isn't serious...

[tpols]

i hope this shit isn't serious...
Shaq and Duncan had more success.. obviously, but I'm not talking best resume from 2001 to 2010. I'm just talking... who is the best basketball player? Like take a few years from each guy. 09 and 10 Lebron were better than any Duncan and any Shaq from 01 to 10[00 Shaq was better]. So Lebron was the second best player in the Kobe era.

[AlphaWolf24]

The Lebron error....

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2748000/AlphaWolf-2748468_845_746.jpg

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2124000/AlphaWolf-2124748_300_300.jpg

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2106000/AlphaWolf-2106456_910_1034.jpg

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2153000/AlphaWolf-2153045_800_552.jpg

http://images4.fanpop.com/image/user_images/2828000/AlphaWolf-2828691_330_480.jpg

[purplch0de]

Shaq and Duncan had more success.. obviously, but I'm not talking best resume from 2001 to 2010. I'm just talking... who is the best basketball player? Like take a few years from each guy. 09 and 10 Lebron were better than any Duncan and any Shaq from 01 to 10[00 Shaq was better]. So Lebron was the second best player in the Kobe era.

Did you read the title of this thread? It's not year to year, it's for an entire era. Players drafted this era shouldn't be eligible. And even if he did, Shaq, Duncan, Garnett are over lebron. First three blank years for lebron is worse then the last 3 aging hears for shaq duncan and garnett.

[Big#50]

Yikes! Alphawolf needs to get a ****ing life. Kobe consumes that dudes life. Poor guy.

[EnoughSaid]

I love how you intentionally don't include Shaq's first ring. So apparently Shaq won the ring by himself if Kobe wasn't present in that year? :oldlol: :oldlol:

[Holy Random]

AlphaWolf is like Bruce Blitz in terms of his obsession yet instead he is just a 12 year old moron with minimal knowledge of the sport.

[D-Wade316]

Kobe has never been the best player in a season, let alone an era. 05-06? LMFAO! Shot jacking, horrible defense, chocking a 3-1 lead.

Players who are clear cut better than Kobe:
Shaq
Duncan
Lebron
Wade
Dirk

[Odinn]

Post-Jordan era;
Shaq-Duncan

Kobe

Sorry, guys.

[Stuckey]

i love this thread <3333333

:roll: + occasional chuckles

yesssss this is what im talking about

dont stop now, i am amused

dat Lebron

okay enough

peace now

[Asukal]

There is a Kobe era? :roll:

[Theoo's Daddy]

How can you rule an era as the best player in the league but don't have the MVP titles to back up your fans claims? Jordan had the titles to back him Up. Lettuce be serious here.

[oolalaa]

I would say this era starts from 2000-2001 season to 2009-2010. This time period was KOBES point blank.

Now who is the 2nd best player during this stretch?

Shaq- 2 finals mvps, 3 rings

Duncan- 2 finals mvps, 3 rings, 2 mvps

AI- 1 MVP, finals, 3 scoring titles

Wade- 1 finals MVP, scoring title

Lebronze- 2 mvp, finals, scoring title

:wtf: don't you mean who was the 3rd best player of the duncan/shaq era?

I'll assume it was a typo

[AlphaWolf24]

AlphaWolf is like Bruce Blitz in terms of his obsession yet instead he (AW) actually is a very good basketball player who played and continues to play organized ball , he has been watching basketball for over 25 years and understands the sport on an uncommon level....plain and simple , he knows the sport.


fixed:D