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insidehoops
06-07-2011, 12:28 PM
As expected, he used his player option to keep playing for Boston next season

More info: http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=7754

west
06-07-2011, 12:32 PM
:applause: :applause: :applause:

Rowe
06-07-2011, 12:47 PM
I think its a bad move. I was hoping he'd opt out.

If Boston is serious about rebuilding next season they are going to use him as trade bait at any point during the season. Nothing worse than knowing you will have to potentially uproot your family at any point during the year. That could mean spending at least 1/2 of the season on a bad team in a small market where people would forget about him. Reaching a buyout to join a contender would mean forfeiting some of this money and ending up on a contender relegated to a bench player.


If Allen opted out he can get a 2-3 year contract for the MLE, and decide which team he wants to join based on playing time/role.

ProfessorMurder
06-07-2011, 12:59 PM
I think its a bad move. I was hoping he'd opt out.

If Boston is serious about rebuilding next season they are going to use him as trade bait at any point during the season. Nothing worse than knowing you will have to potentially uproot your family at any point during the year. That could mean spending at least 1/2 of the season on a bad team in a small market where people would forget about him. Reaching a buyout to join a contender would mean forfeiting some of this money and ending up on a contender relegated to a bench player.


If Allen opted out he can get a 2-3 year contract for the MLE, and decide which team he wants to join based on playing time/role.

:rolleyes: You just wanted him on your team.

There's no need to trade him because his and KG's contracts will expire and they can resign cheaper in the new CBA, leaving money to pick up FAs.

Ray won't leave Boston.

JohnnySic
06-07-2011, 01:02 PM
Nice, but......Allen and KG are likely trade bait with their big expiring contracts.

Ainge was around for the late 80's when the C's got old, and the brass hung on to rather than trade the big names. Had they made trades they would have stayed young and relevant. The same mistake wont happen twice...it wouldn't be consistent with how Danny and Wyc operate.

PJR
06-07-2011, 01:05 PM
Ainge is absolutely going to trade him at some point next season.

Boston C's
06-07-2011, 01:17 PM
:rolleyes: You just wanted him on your team.

There's no need to trade him because his and KG's contracts will expire and they can resign cheaper in the new CBA, leaving money to pick up FAs.

Ray won't leave Boston.

This, idk why boston would trade him when he had a career yr shooting the ball. Him and pierce are aging magnificently and the big 3 just need to have their minutes lowered. and honestly idk who boston would trade ray allen for that could fill that void he has. He may be relegated to a 3 point specialist at this point of his career but hes shown he can still put it on the floor and take it to the rack. What three point specialist can do that in todays game? You have great 3 point shooters like korver or matt bonner but shoot 3's are all they can do and they have pretty much no ability to take it to the rack.

Rowe
06-07-2011, 01:20 PM
:rolleyes: You just wanted him on your team.

There's no need to trade him because his and KG's contracts will expire and they can resign cheaper in the new CBA, leaving money to pick up FAs.

Ray won't leave Boston.

Yes, I do want him on the Knicks.

Why would the Celtics not trade them? Allen & KG are both valuable expirers who can provide some assets to the Celtics in terms of talent as well as draft picks.

I dont see any reason as to why they'd come back if the Celtics arent willing to go after it for 1 more season. I see both guys getting traded during the season actually. They would be hogging minutes from their future core if they decided to spend the rest of their careers in Boston transitioning from core stars to bench players.

Crown&Coke
06-07-2011, 01:28 PM
Great move for Shttlesworth. With the unknown with the new CBA, plus a 10million dollar deal, opting out and hoping to get 5 mil over 3 years is pretty silly. And his family is settled in, he's a family man so that is really important to him.

Dude is a perfect sg for how they play, unless they can get a guy like Rip, Kevin Martin or Ben Gordon I dont see a replacement that would allow them to continue to play that fast pace AND a slow down half court game.

Say what you want about his age, dude is still good. Ainge might move him though, but I doubt someone moves value for him considering his age unless its a salary dump (see Ben Gordon or Rip) in which case both teams should jump on it.

Rowe
06-07-2011, 01:31 PM
This, idk why boston would trade him when he had a career yr shooting the ball. Him and pierce are aging magnificently and the big 3 just need to have their minutes lowered. and honestly idk who boston would trade ray allen for that could fill that void he has. He may be relegated to a 3 point specialist at this point of his career but hes shown he can still put it on the floor and take it to the rack. What three point specialist can do that in todays game? You have great 3 point shooters like korver or matt bonner but shoot 3's are all they can do and they have pretty much no ability to take it to the rack.

Why do you keep a guy who wants to win titles when you're talking about rebuilding?:confusedshrug:

Lowering their minutes doesnt really keep them in the title picture.

Their core is getting up in age and you need impact players going forward, espescially when your competition is now Miami, Chicago, & New York.

Boston C's
06-07-2011, 01:39 PM
Why do you keep a guy who wants to win titles when you're talking about rebuilding?:confusedshrug:

Lowering their minutes doesnt really keep them in the title picture.

Their core is getting up in age and you need impact players going forward, espescially when your competition is now Miami, Chicago, & New York.

Ainge clearly stated he wants to give the core one more shot... let them get their last crack at it and then when ray and kg run out of their contracts next yr you can decide what to do then, although I have a feeling after next yr k.g will retire

ihatetimthomas
06-07-2011, 01:52 PM
Why do you keep a guy who wants to win titles when you're talking about rebuilding?:confusedshrug:

Lowering their minutes doesnt really keep them in the title picture.

Their core is getting up in age and you need impact players going forward, espescially when your competition is now Miami, Chicago, & New York.

They are better off trying to go for it one more year. Honestly, I dont see what kind of real value they will get for those expiring contracts. They are great players who are also impact players even at this stage, but I just dont see them getting a lot of great value in return. I think they are better off trying to go for it one more time. Jeff Green really looked out of sync when he arrived, perhaps he will continue to grow and become more accustomed in the system.

pete's montreux
06-07-2011, 01:54 PM
Hey, Rowe, he's not going to play for the Knicks so stop trying to convince Boston fans that It's time to rebuild.

HylianNightmare
06-07-2011, 01:58 PM
shocked:rolleyes:

LEFT4DEAD
06-07-2011, 02:07 PM
Green is his life' color.

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Rowe
06-07-2011, 03:22 PM
Hey, Rowe, he's not going to play for the Knicks so stop trying to convince Boston fans that It's time to rebuild.

I watched The Association.

He did say he enjoyed coming to New York.:D

pete's montreux
06-07-2011, 03:43 PM
I watched The Association.

He did say he enjoyed coming to New York.:D

And why not? He loves going to New York and kicking your ass. :lol

LBJWADE
06-07-2011, 03:47 PM
Green is his life' color.

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Forgot one...

PP34Deuce
06-07-2011, 04:00 PM
Ray has made ALOT of money.....2 big MAx contracts, no divorce, and business ventures.. Doc Rivers has taken this team like his sons... Celtics are a family...

Ray is tough to trade....Because he would kill us just like hes killed other teams. MIA,CHI,OKC,MEM,etc... Id rather see him retire in BOS.

I think BOS is just one athletic PF and young(22-25) year old athletic 2 guard with good size to be back in the thick of things.

If Delonte can play like he did in MIA series for the season...2guard is good.

Derka
06-07-2011, 04:28 PM
Ray is where he belongs. I hope to see him retire a Celtic.

LEFT4DEAD
06-07-2011, 04:29 PM
Ray has made ALOT of money.....2 big MAx contracts, no divorce, and business ventures.. Doc Rivers has taken this team like his sons... Celtics are a family...

Ray is tough to trade....Because he would kill us just like hes killed other teams. MIA,CHI,OKC,MEM,etc... Id rather see him retire in BOS.

I think BOS is just one athletic PF and young(22-25) year old athletic 2 guard with good size to be back in the thick of things.

If Delonte can play like he did in MIA series for the season...2guard is good.
I believe Ray is one of few players who are not going after money, but after loyalty, competition and improving their game as much as they can. I barely remember a player in mid 30's who is running all game like Allen does. Guy is training every day, he has not eaten even one hamburger according to himself. Have you seen his body?! Its on incredible degree of condition. He will always be my favourite player just because of playing the game of basketball with such passion since his rookie days.

Boston C's
06-07-2011, 05:35 PM
Green is his life' color.

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i miss him in seattle where he could go off on any given night... bring back the sonicsssssss

bdreason
06-07-2011, 06:01 PM
No way he was gonna opt out of 10 million.





Sprewell, "I've got a family to feed".

BlackWhiteGreen
06-07-2011, 07:35 PM
I love Ray in Boston, but I'd trade him for the right player.

Marquis Daniels
06-07-2011, 10:22 PM
:applause: :applause: love ray

Jasper
06-07-2011, 10:33 PM
couldn't he have went into free agency ... knowing he would only sign with the Celtic's ... free up some cash for the Celtic's

Take Player minimum , and make the team better.. :confusedshrug:

Instead exercises his option collects 10 mill (Celtic's aren't going any where)

Smoke117
06-07-2011, 10:33 PM
Well as a Celtics fan and it being my favorite player i'm all for it. I'm almost positive though that if this season goes poorly he will be traded...Ray is going to be a player who even after this season has at least 2 to 3 seasons more...and if it all goes wrong for us in Boston I could easily see him traded away before this deadline (barring the lock out)....and on that notion if there is a lock out than the Celtics will most definitely go for one last run anyway, so next season is definitely up in arms...

ballerz
06-08-2011, 12:26 AM
I'm happy with this as a C's fan. He is still a great SG in the league and can contribute well and help mentor younger players

Killbot
06-08-2011, 12:48 AM
couldn't he have went into free agency ... knowing he would only sign with the Celtic's ... free up some cash for the Celtic's

Take Player minimum , and make the team better.. :confusedshrug:

Instead exercises his option collects 10 mill (Celtic's aren't going any where)

If you think in terms of a player's perspective, why the fck would someone dump that much money when his future is uncertain?

veilside23
06-08-2011, 04:51 AM
last hurray ... celtics just need to have a established C. i dont know if jermain oneal can be healthy and play the same. KG is still quite good but this maybe his last year. I am hoping Green can be like a james posey type. i think the celtics just need a jeremy tyler i am sure he will learn alot from KG.

good job Ray Ray

BlueandGold
06-08-2011, 08:25 AM
I think its a bad move. I was hoping he'd opt out.

If Boston is serious about rebuilding next season they are going to use him as trade bait at any point during the season. Nothing worse than knowing you will have to potentially uproot your family at any point during the year. That could mean spending at least 1/2 of the season on a bad team in a small market where people would forget about him. Reaching a buyout to join a contender would mean forfeiting some of this money and ending up on a contender relegated to a bench player.


If Allen opted out he can get a 2-3 year contract for the MLE, and decide which team he wants to join based on playing time/role.
I don't see Allen (or any professional NBA player) doing that unless he's had an extensive talks with the organization. It's not like NBA players are stupid, all of them have agents and lawyers just like the organizations. By saying Allen exercised the option is also like saying the team and allen both agreed to give it one more year.

step_back
06-08-2011, 11:19 AM
Damm I wanted a trade to bring him to Chicago!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

Nastradamus
06-08-2011, 11:57 AM
Allen wouldn't have been able to get the same money on the market and the C's wouldn't have any cap space still if he left. He was alwasy coming back. HE might have been their best player last year so its a good thing for him. Just get some help for the old guys now!

LA_Showtime
06-08-2011, 12:27 PM
I don't see Allen (or any professional NBA player) doing that unless he's had an extensive talks with the organization. It's not like NBA players are stupid, all of them have agents and lawyers just like the organizations. By saying Allen exercised the option is also like saying the team and allen both agreed to give it one more year.

This is a business. Both Allen and Garnett's contracts are huge and expiring. They don't have to promise Ray anything, and they shouldn't.

Eat Like A Bosh
06-08-2011, 03:22 PM
Ray's better off staying in Boston.
First of all, he gets the 10Mil.
Second of all, At the rate he's going, he can keep playing till he's 40. Shooters like him don't rely on athleticism a lot.
As long as Rondo's still here, he can still do his thing here. And retire as a Celtic.

DeronMillsap
06-08-2011, 03:41 PM
Played college b-ball in New England(UConn), might as well retire in New England(Boston). :cheers:

Nastradamus
06-08-2011, 04:06 PM
This is a business. Both Allen and Garnett's contracts are huge and expiring. They don't have to promise Ray anything, and they shouldn't.

Certainly not. Ray opted in because he wants to keep playing, he can't get more money and Boston is a potential contender(in their eyes at the least). Boston certainly didn't mutually agree to something or it would be a mutual option. Go get the MLE, if there even is one

BlackWhiteGreen
06-08-2011, 04:55 PM
Damm I wanted a trade to bring him to Chicago!

:banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I'm sure we've discussed this before, Gibson, Brewer and Korver. I'd pull the trigger, especially if next season doesn't start very well...

Crown&Coke
06-08-2011, 05:57 PM
I'm sure we've discussed this before, Gibson, Brewer and Korver. I'd pull the trigger, especially if next season doesn't start very well...

:roll:

hawkfan
06-08-2011, 05:59 PM
This is probably the last year for Garnett-Allen-Pierce, unless KG and RA decide to take huge paycuts next year and also reduced minutes.

tazb
06-08-2011, 06:25 PM
Good news. Happy to see him in Green again! :)

Jasper
06-08-2011, 09:22 PM
If you think in terms of a player's perspective, why the fck would someone dump that much money when his future is uncertain?
I understand your point , but he is a multi millionaire , and he is playing for another chip

Problem is as the roster stands , Celtics won't be in the ECF's until new blood arrives. If he would of went free agent , and came back with min. vet pay , the Celtic's could of got another piece...
He locks the Celtics up (.)

srekaL
06-09-2011, 12:38 AM
Celtics could very well be in the ECF again next year as long as they dont run into Miami in the Semi finals like they did this year.

Duranthebest
06-09-2011, 01:16 AM
Terrible news.

ballerz
06-09-2011, 01:42 AM
Terrible news.
um how?

jdm_dc_fan
06-09-2011, 04:49 AM
um how?
just don't. In his eyes allen should have retired 5 years ago.

PP34Deuce
06-09-2011, 11:45 AM
Celtics could very well be in the ECF again next year as long as they dont run into Miami in the Semi finals like they did this year.


Will need stronger cohesive bench alla DAL...and if Rondo can shoot 17ft jumpers, watch out!

Boston C's
06-09-2011, 03:01 PM
Terrible news.

Go look at your one vote for the hall of fame thread between pierce and ray and count who won by a landslide :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol:

Eat Like A Bosh
07-24-2011, 03:55 PM
At the rate he's going he could play till he's 40!