Mike Wilbon : "1 of the Big 3 is Gone Next Season, I think we all Know Who that is."

[RUCKER]

Ummm.. Did I miss anything? Why is it a foregone conclusion that one of the big 3 is getting dealt somewhere this off season? He said teams were already adjusting their rosters, and getting ready for that possible trade.

I first assumed he was talking about Bosh, but he had just got done ripping LeBron a new one.. So I was thinking, he must be talking about LeBron. Wilbon is a respected NBA analyst and insider, so I figure his word holds more weight than anyone else's on this forum.

So was I right in initially thinking he was talking about Bosh? Or was he really saying LeBron is the one who is getting traded from Miami? I mean, LeBron put the Heat on his back and carried them to the Finals, regardless of what happened in the Finals. I don't think you completely abandon him after only 1 season.

So who was Wilbon talking about? I know it wasn't Wade. Could only be Bosh or LeBron.. I don't think it's right to make Bosh the scapegoat and act like he is the reason why the Heat lost this finals. He showed more passion for the loss than LeBron did.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

Miami would not trade LeBron for anyone. The only guy worth trading him for is Dwight Howard and Miami still wouldn't do it.

Unless Michael Jordan suddenly got 20 years younger and wanted to take his talents to South Beach, LeBron is not going anywhere. Neither is Bosh.

[red1]

It would be dumb as f*ck to trade a key piece when your newly formed team just made the finals and played a competitive series. All this is in spite of the fact that your stars didn't play to their potential

[Indian guy]

For Wade and Miami's own sake, I hope it's LeBron. What he pulled off in the Finals goes to show you just can't trust someone like that.

[kaiiu]

For Wade and Miami's own sake, I hope it's LeBron. What he pulled off in the Finals goes to show you just can't trust someone like that.
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[Reverend Hoops]

For Wade and Miami's own sake, I hope it's LeBron. What he pulled off in the Finals goes to show you just can't trust someone like that.

:roll: LeBron hate goes to far. There is absolutely no way LeBron is traded.

[DStebb716]

Miami would not trade LeBron for anyone. The only guy worth trading him for is Dwight Howard and Miami still wouldn't do it.

Unless Michael Jordan suddenly got 20 years younger and wanted to take his talents to South Beach, LeBron is not going anywhere. Neither is Bosh.

They wouldn't do LeBron for Howard? have you been drinking tonight?

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

Wilbon HAS to be talkin' out his ass.
There is no way that Pat Riley and staff have already decided what to do.
And even if they HAVE decided, then there is no way Wilbon would know at this point.

Having said that, I would be willing to trade Gasol for Lebron.
Both of their girlfriends were cheating on them, so its an even trade.

[MeLO MvP 15]

That's so stupid. They make it to the NBA finals and almost won a ring in their first season together (with a pretty bad supporting cast, except Haslem, Mario and Miller). If they learned anything from the past champions (except Boston), they need time to gel and if Bosh/Wade/LeBron all get on the same page (and despite what others say, it's def possible), that team will be hard to stop.

[R.I.P.]

If I was Miami I wouldn

[28renyoy]

Miami would not trade LeBron for anyone. The only guy worth trading him for is Dwight Howard and Miami still wouldn't do it.

Unless Michael Jordan suddenly got 20 years younger and wanted to take his talents to South Beach, LeBron is not going anywhere. Neither is Bosh.

You're out of your damn mind.

I guarantee you they would also trade him for Durant tomorrow. Not because Durant is a better player, but he's a much better fit next to Wade. He's a more efficient scorer, equal rebounder and shotblocker, and he can play off of the ball plus he's much younger.

[DStebb716]

Wilbon HAS to be talkin' out his ass.
There is no way that Pat Riley and staff have already decided what to do.
And even if they HAVE decided, then there is no way Wilbon would know at this point.

Having said that, I would be willing to trade Gasol for Lebron.
Both of their girlfriends were cheating on them, so its an even trade.

You're kidding, right?

It'd take Gasol, Bynum and more to get LeBron.

[GiveItToBurrito]

He's just over-reacting, I think The Heat are the favorites next year if they keep their core together. They need to dump old guys who get by on reputation (Bibby, Juwan Howard, three of their centers) and round out the roster with young guys via late first round picks they buy from teams like Minnesota. They need to try to grab some zone-busting shooters, too, although Jones, Miller, and Chalmers really should suffice.

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

You're kidding, right?

It'd take Gasol, Bynum and more to get LeBron.

OK...Gasol plus Luke Walton for Lebron

[jbryan1984]

Well it certainly can't be Wade or Bosh. That would just be retarded.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

You're out of your damn mind.

I guarantee you they would also trade him for Durant tomorrow. Not because Durant is a better player, but he's a much better fit next to Wade. He's a more efficient scorer, equal rebounder and shotblocker, and he can play off of the ball plus he's much younger.

Stopped reading there Joyner...

[Raider007]

You're kidding, right?

It'd take Gasol, Bynum and more to get LeBron.

Lakers dont want Bron,, His salary and lack of heart in crunch time isnt worth the trouble

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

first year playing together and they lose in the finals and now people want to break them up? lol ignorant people caught in the hype right now

[DCL]

waaaay over-reacting.

first thing they need to do is get rid of that retarded ass coach and put in a real coach who has authority to direct who gets what role on the team.

then add supplementary pieces that complement everyone else.

then try again with their best possible squad and a much more qualified commander. they didn't have that this year. they had a retarded coach, a laid back environment, a bunch of immaturity, and no one to whip them into shape.

[28renyoy]

Stopped reading there Joyner...

You're such an idiot..and what's even more pathetic is after saying in this very thread the Heat wouldn't trade LeBron for Dwight, in the "Dwight Howard announces he will NOT sign extension with Magic. Will test FA next os." thread you posted

LeBron for Dwight let's get it done

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

first year playing together and they lose in the finals and now people want to break them up? lol ignorant people caught in the hype right now
while i agree it is overreaction, i can't help but think the heat can get 2 superstars for lebron.

[Mr. I'm So Rad]

You're such an idiot..and what's even more pathetic is after saying in this very thread the Heat wouldn't trade LeBron for Dwight, in the "Dwight Howard announces he will NOT sign extension with Magic. Will test FA next os." thread you posted

LeBron for Dwight let's get it done

Joking much? :rolleyes:

[HaNdLe ThE RoCk]

while i agree it is overreaction, i can't help but think the heat can get 2 superstars for lebron.

And which 2 superstars would you actually trade LeBron for? If anyone would leave I'd think it would be Bosh after his soft play. I hope Miami isn't really considering trading Bron :lol

[DCL]

phil jackson is coming out of retirement. he loooves coaching this type of opportunity. hes probably laughing at spoelstra, "Son, you got lebron, wade, AND bosh, and you can't win????"

[Raider007]

You're such an idiot..and what's even more pathetic is after saying in this very thread the Heat wouldn't trade LeBron for Dwight, in the "Dwight Howard announces he will NOT sign extension with Magic. Will test FA next os." thread you posted

LeBron for Dwight let's get it done

Dwight would never go to his rival like Shaq (whore) went to Boston.

Dwight has had his eye on the Lakers...

http://www.businessinsider.com/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-orlando-magic-2012-2010-12

http://www.worlddates.com/la-lakers-will-the-lakers-acquire-dwight-howard-and-chris-paul/

Lakers could possibly pull off CP3 and DHoward :eek:

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

And which 2 superstars would you actually trade LeBron for? If anyone would leave I'd think it would be Bosh after his soft play. I hope Miami isn't really considering trading Bron :lol
it'd be hard because you have to match salaries. but i'd trade

bron for bynum, gasol, odom (i know lots of size, too much size, but still)
bron for westbrook/durant
bron for deron williams/brook lopez
bron for derrick rose/noah or deng
bron for blake griffin/eric gordon\
bron for melo/amare

i know, i am reaching big time, but if i were pat riley, i'd entertain any of these trades.

shiet how bout Bron for LA, Oden, Andre Miller?

[dee-rose]

Dwight would never go to his rival like Shaq (whore) went to Boston.

Dwight has had his eye on the Lakers...

http://www.businessinsider.com/dwight-howard-los-angeles-lakers-orlando-magic-2012-2010-12

http://www.worlddates.com/la-lakers-will-the-lakers-acquire-dwight-howard-and-chris-paul/

Lakers could possibly pull off CP3 and DHoward :eek:
Would not goto rivals who don't even have much of a rivalry but would go to the team that beat him in his lone finals appearance?

[DirtySanchez]

The Heat made the Finals in their first try. No WAY does LeBron, Bosh, or Wade get traded.

If one does (even just Bosh) I would be shocked as h3ll.

[Raider007]

Would not goto rivals who don't even have much of a rivalry but would go to the team that beat him in his lone finals appearance?

No rivalry between orlando and LA over that.

Just passing on links to back up my post.

[swi7ch]

lebron for d howard + scrubs

[ronniec]

That's so stupid. They make it to the NBA finals and almost won a ring in their first season together (with a pretty bad supporting cast, except Haslem, Mario and Miller). If they learned anything from the past champions (except Boston), they need time to gel and if Bosh/Wade/LeBron all get on the same page (and despite what others say, it's def possible), that team will be hard to stop.

What did Boston did wrong? Miami was copying the Big 3 concept from Boston.
Making to the finals is one thing, winning one is another. They got to the finals this year does not guarantee another trip to the final and win it all. You are just assuming they will let go of the ego, gel in, and play in harmony all out of a sudden... keep dreaming.

[ronniec]

That's so stupid. They make it to the NBA finals and almost won a ring in their first season together (with a pretty bad supporting cast, except Haslem, Mario and Miller). If they learned anything from the past champions (except Boston), they need time to gel and if Bosh/Wade/LeBron all get on the same page (and despite what others say, it's def possible), that team will be hard to stop.

What did Boston did wrong? Miami was copying the Big 3 concept from Boston.
Making to the finals is one thing, winning one is another. They got to the finals this year does not guarantee another trip to the final and win it all. You are just assuming they will let go of the ego, gel in, and play in harmony all out of a sudden... keep dreaming.

[PleezeBelieve]

The pieces don't fit.

Why don't you all get this?

[bagelred]

No one is going anywhere.

I hate to break everyone's bubble, but the Heat had a VERY SUCCESSFUL SEASON. In their first season together, they got all the way to Game 6 of the NBA Finals. That's better than 28 other teams trying to get to the same place.

Only Bosh, if anyone, would be traded and I don't think that's happening either. This unit will have at least one more season together minimum.

[dee-rose]

No rivalry between orlando and LA over that.

Just passing on links to back up my post.
There's no rivalry but do you really think he'd be more bitter about some team upstate that has never beat him in the playoffs than the team that his magic got stomped by in the finals?

Dwight2Chicago :rockon:

[EasyD]

6 months later ....

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qamC_3VItH4/0.jpg

[RUCKER]

lebron for d howard + scrubs


I was thinking trading D.Howard outright for D.Wade. LeBron needs a dominant big man like D.Howard reminiscent of Prime Shaq and Kobe. I just don't think D.Wade brings anything to the table that LeBron doesn't already.

LeBron could've consistently put up 50+ pt. games on the regular if D.Wade didn't get in his way. LeBron felt obligated to get D.Wade the ball, because D.Wade was too stubborn to step aside and do what's best for the team, by becoming LeBron's sidekick.

Their styles clash. LeBron and D.Howard would compliment eachother perfectly. So trade Wade for Howard, call it a day, and everyone's happy.

[NoGunzJustSkillz]

I was thinking trading D.Howard outright for D.Wade. LeBron needs a dominant big man like D.Howard reminiscent of Prime Shaq and Kobe. I just don't think D.Wade brings anything to the table that LeBron doesn't already.

LeBron could've consistently put up 50+ pt. games on the regular if D.Wade didn't get in his way. LeBron felt obligated to get D.Wade the ball, because D.Wade was too stubborn to step aside and do what's best for the team, by becoming LeBron's sidekick.

Their styles clash. LeBron and D.Howard would compliment eachother perfectly. So trade Wade for Howard, call it a day, and everyone's happy.
i was wondering why wade doesn't have a no trade clause in his contract. isn't it 7 years with the same team, you can get that clause put into your contracT?

[gasolina]

Wade / Dwight / Bosh is actually a pretty likeable trio. One that I would support maybe half the time.

On the flip side, if its just a straight up trade, who would BronBron play with? Gilbert Arenas?

C - verrry empty space here and Gortat says hi
PF - Hedo (Lebron would have to guard PF's)
SF - Lebron
SG - JRich
PG - Nelson

lol at this team

[kunk75]

lebronique jameskins ain;t going anywhere.

[Jasper]

OP link :confusedshrug:

[kkling]

Trading Lebron would be hilarious.

[RUCKER]

OP link :confusedshrug:

Did you not watch PTI today? Their first few segments were about the Finals/Heat/LeBron.

I just didn't like how he said that, and then didn't tell everyone who he thought that was. Just that we should "all already know." I was surprised Kornheiser didn't call him out on who he was talking about to clarify for those watchng, he usually does.

Bothered me because now I want to know for sure who he was talking about.

[Soundwave]

Bosh is the only one of the big three Miami would trade for Dwight.

And honestly, Orlando may not find a better player than that on the trade market for Dwight anyway.

Bynum is not as good as Bosh, neither is Westbrook. If I'm Miami that's the only offer I'd put on the table.

Most of you guys were saying Miami wouldn't beat Boston or Chicago in the first place, so they came a lot closer to a title than more than half this board thought in their very first season together.

Pat Riley isn't stupid, he's not going to blow that up, especially in a league where the Mavs are old, the Lakers are old, and the Celtics are old. The Heat still look great going forward as long as Dwight doesn't get dealt to Chicago or something.

[bedmon]

Did you not watch PTI today? Their first few segments were about the Finals/Heat/LeBron.

I just didn't like how he said that, and then didn't tell everyone who he thought that was. Just that we should "all already know." I was surprised Kornheiser didn't call him out on who he was talking about to clarify for those watchng, he usually does.

Bothered me because now I want to know for sure who he was talking about.


He probably was just talking out of his a## to get attention. I doubt the Heat have put thought into breaking up the team after losing in the finals after 1 year.

[NugzHeat3]

Nobody is getting traded. You don't blow up such a huge project after the first season which isn't really a failure if you look at the grand scheme of things. There's gonna be minor tweaks but the core will stay together for another year at the very least. I'll be shocked if Riles makes a move involving LWB.

[Theoo's Daddy]

This is the same guy who had kobe 2nd on his MVP list this past season. The guy is a dumbass.

[ihatetimthomas]

Bosh is the only one of the big three Miami would trade for Dwight.

And honestly, Orlando may not find a better player than that on the trade market for Dwight anyway.

Bynum is not as good as Bosh, neither is Westbrook. If I'm Miami that's the only offer I'd put on the table.

Most of you guys were saying Miami wouldn't beat Boston or Chicago in the first place, so they came a lot closer to a title than more than half this board thought in their very first season together.

Pat Riley isn't stupid, he's not going to blow that up, especially in a league where the Mavs are old, the Lakers are old, and the Celtics are old. The Heat still look great going forward as long as Dwight doesn't get dealt to Chicago or something.

If I were Orlando, I would prefer to acquire the upside of Russell Westbrook. He is a great player, and we still have not seen his true potential. Bosh is a good player, but we have seen his ceiling.

[Draz]

Poor Joel Anthony -_-"

[bagelred]

If I were Orlando, I would prefer to acquire the upside of Russell Westbrook. He is a great player, and we still have not seen his true potential. Bosh is a good player, but we have seen his ceiling.

Orlando should ask for Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka, Perkins, and Collison for Howard and Arenas. Take it or leave it.



OKC would take it.

[Geezer]

By the way, Dwight Howard hates Lebron/Miami, I highly doubt he would want to play there even if he was traded for Lebron outright.

[RoseCity07]

Only if they think they can get Dwight Howard. If not, then I don't think there would be a point.

[monkeypox]

Only makes sense if there's more going on behind the scenes that isn't being reported. Like if the relationship with one of the three has completely deteriorated and he's privately demanded a trade or something. Otherwise it's too early to give up on this experiment.

[Kingwillball]

For Wade and Miami's own sake, I hope it's LeBron. What he pulled off in the Finals goes to show you just can't trust someone like that.


U just want Lebron to have a team built around him which is better than fitting a Square peg into a round hole like with Wade and lebron..

[Rockets(T-mac)]

LOL Miami isn't trading any of the big three. It's been a ****ing year no way they break up a team after just a year.

[bluechox2]

im thinking it wud be bosh cus that how much pull lebron has

[imlmf]

lebron for howard would make a real dynasty

[bleedinpurpleTwo]

If its one of the big 3, then my guess is Chalmers because DWade and Bosh are just too good.

[Jasper]

Did you not watch PTI today? Their first few segments were about the Finals/Heat/LeBron.

I just didn't like how he said that, and then didn't tell everyone who he thought that was. Just that we should "all already know." I was surprised Kornheiser didn't call him out on who he was talking about to clarify for those watchng, he usually does.

Bothered me because now I want to know for sure who he was talking about.
Not everyone on here watchs and listens and access's all the links to assume what these threads are in a chat room.

*That is why this forum has gone to heII , because of the last 16 months , no one brings in stats , links, etc .. to their OP.

Cred has failed here in one to many ways :mad:

[che guevara]

For Wade and Miami's own sake, I hope it's LeBron. What he pulled off in the Finals goes to show you just can't trust someone like that.
Yeah, Lebron's got to be first on the trading block. Two years in a row he completely disappears in big games and looks like he doesn't give a shit.

I wonder how pissed Wade is right now? He played as hard as he could while Lebron stood and watched like it was a preseason game.

[3zazer1]

I was thinking trading D.Howard outright for D.Wade. LeBron needs a dominant big man like D.Howard reminiscent of Prime Shaq and Kobe. I just don't think D.Wade brings anything to the table that LeBron doesn't already.

LeBron could've consistently put up 50+ pt. games on the regular if D.Wade didn't get in his way. LeBron felt obligated to get D.Wade the ball, because D.Wade was too stubborn to step aside and do what's best for the team, by becoming LeBron's sidekick.

Their styles clash. LeBron and D.Howard would compliment eachother perfectly. So trade Wade for Howard, call it a day, and everyone's happy.

Why does D Wade have to defer to Lebron after his horrible play in the Finals? If Lebron wants a damn ring so much, why dosn't he take the Sidekick role? If he can supposedly score 50+ points when he wants to, why dosn't he do it? This is Wades team bottom line and if you don't believe it, watch game 2 again.

[OriginalNameGuy]

Wilbon is an idiot, no one is getting traded. Erik Spoelstra will be shown the door though

[3zazer1]

Not everyone on here watchs and listens and access's all the links to assume what these threads are in a chat room.

*That is why this forum has gone to heII , because of the last 16 months , no one brings in stats , links, etc .. to their OP.

Cred has failed here in one to many ways :mad:

:applause: :applause:

I thought this was just me. InsideHoops is slowly turning into a gossip website.

[UtahJazzFan88]

I actually thought Mike Wilbon was becoming sorta credible until hearing this crap.

[RUCKER]

:applause: :applause:

I thought this was just me. InsideHoops is slowly turning into a gossip website.


I don't see anyone refuting the claims?

What does it make a difference if you don't think Mike Wilbon said that or not? I'm just telling you what I heard from him today. If I got the quote from a link, I would've linked it.

But if you all are supposed to be some big bball fans, why weren't you watching the show so you could've heard it for yourself? Since it's the biggest NBA coverage outlet next to NBA live.

[gilalizard]

They're not going to trade dwhistle or the chosen1, period.

They won't trade Bosh unless they could get Dwight. And that would entail the Orlando front office collectively losing it's mind.

Dwight is far more likely to go to the Lakers. His situation is ripe for Lakers to flex their muscle and get this generation's greatest center. No he's not Shaq. And no there's no one else close to him either. If Dwight wants to leave Orlando, Lakers move heaven and earth to get him and outpunch any other suitors. Unless the Buss kids ride the short bus.

If any of the big three is traded (besides the slobbering insanity of Bosh for Dwight) it would entail Riley admitting he screwed up. Not very likely.

Same goes for Spoelstra. He's a Riley acolyte. Riley installed him. If Riley fired him now, Riley is admitting he was wrong. Again not very likely (outside of either dwhistle or the chosen1 winning a behind-the-scenes powerplay). And Riley is not coming back to coach. He's enjoying leaving the arena early in the evenings to get blown by south beach silicone whores on his way home to a light meal and some relaxing cocktails.

The assclowns of Miami are not going to be broken up yet, regardless of how much heart, class and maturity they lack. Their stacked talent is so much they still are strong favorites to win. Riley knows this. He is banking on time catching up to Dallas, Chicago/OKC being too young another year, NY generally being clowns who don't play defense, and the eternal ongoing drama in Lakerland to gloss over his own highly talented team's flaws of narcissism, immaturity, and lack of heart/competitive spirit.

[3zazer1]

I don't see anyone refuting the claims?

What does it make a difference if you don't think Mike Wilbon said that or not? I'm just telling you what I heard from him today. If I got the quote from a link, I would've linked it.

But if you all are supposed to be some big bball fans, why weren't you watching the show so you could've heard it for yourself? Since it's the biggest NBA coverage outlet next to NBA live.

I didn't watch it because I was at work. And my last post wasn't a shot at you. It was a shot at the integrity of this forum. I recorded 1st and 10 and I listen to Cowheard, Stephen A Smith, Mason and Ireland on ESPN.com. I just didn't get around to PTI

[strifed169]

Trade Lebron, he didn't carry shit, lets be honest here, his lucky 3's is what elevated them to the finals, not some spectular play that is completely unguardable.

[all_or_nothing]

You can't really expect the organization to trade any one of the big 3 because they were so close. I mean every single game came down to the wire, but unfortunately Miami always seemed to fall short in the last 5 minutes.

I see them definitely trading their other players for better role players and hopefully they'll regroup and try again next season. The team needs more balance, where each star player must learn to play as a team and make sacrifices for the betterment of the team.

[Theoo's Daddy]

Trade Lebron, he didn't carry shit, lets be honest here, his lucky 3's is what elevated them to the finals, not some spectular play that is completely unguardable.

Rolleyes, his defense on rose ? Take off the hater shades.

[asdf1990]

They were 2 games away from a championship... U don't blow up the core when u are that close in ur first year. The key to their success isn't trading one of the big 3 its getting them to improve on their weaknesses. Before people forget these three are butt buddies , they will be pissed if either gets traded. Also Wilbon is a tool, he is a Chicago bulls homer, he has been pissed since the big 3 turned down the bulls.

[jimalojj]

Trade Lebron, he didn't carry shit, lets be honest here, his lucky 3's is what elevated them to the finals, not some spectular play that is completely unguardable.

:rolleyes: so if he doesnt shoot he's passive and if he does then he's lucky :roll: :roll: :roll:

[bballer]

I'm LOL'ing at how you guys think they will trade lebron.

[blablabla]

billups and turiaf for bron
we need a pg

[Stuckey]

chris bosh for al jeff? :confusedshrug:

[knightfall88]

billups and turiaf for bron
we need a pg

knicks aren't stupid

[Jasi]

6 months later ....

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qamC_3VItH4/0.jpg

:roll:

[ScolaFan]

Wilbon HAS to be talkin' out his ass.
There is no way that Pat Riley and staff have already decided what to do.
And even if they HAVE decided, then there is no way Wilbon would know at this point.

Having said that, I would be willing to trade Gasol for Lebron.
Both of their girlfriends were cheating on them, so its an even trade.

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :cheers:

[step_back]

No way they break up the big 3. They got to the finals in their first season. All they need to to do is improve on the bench mob (getting healthy would probably be enough) and get a decent coach.

This is a big over reaction.

[HylianNightmare]

bosh to anywhere please

[step_back]

bosh to anywhere please

I'll have Bosh for Boozer :roll:

[JtotheIzzo]

why blow it up after one year?

they got further than many thought they would.

Bosh is the only possible piece to trade because they are paying him full value.

They'd NEVER trade LeBron or Wade.