Iverson warned LeBron about this 5+ years ago. [Archive] - Message Board Basketball Forum

LosBulls

06-17-2011, 02:12 AM

I knew I seen this somewhere.. All this time I thought I was a psychic or something I coulda sworn something in my head told me LeBron was gonna be hated some day but it turned out I had watched this interview some time ago LOL

Thank you from stopping me from believing im psychic.

Loneshot

06-17-2011, 02:45 AM

C-Webb4

06-17-2011, 09:07 AM

The difference is, people hate Lebron without him having gone to jail, without him doing any known of crime, without him cheating on his wife, etc... They just hate him for his whole persona.

BlackJoker23

06-17-2011, 09:10 AM

The difference is, people hate Lebron without him having gone to jail, without him doing any known of crime, without him cheating on his wife, etc... They just hate him for his whole persona.
nahh you dont remember everybody being on lebrons dick right after the bulls series ended?? winning changes everything including ones perception. nobody really cares that much about his persona.

asdf1990

06-17-2011, 09:10 AM

The difference is, people hate Lebron without him having gone to jail, without him doing any known of crime, without him cheating on his wife, etc... They just hate him for his whole persona.

u know lebron had the same persona before the decision right? He didn't just become a douche last off season. He wasn't this hated before.

C-Webb4

06-17-2011, 09:17 AM

u know lebron had the same persona before the decision right? He didn't just become a douche last off season. He wasn't this hated before.
Yes, but i'm pretty sure "the decision" wasn't the kind of scandal A.I. was talking about in this video clip. That's the point. Lebron is still a clean cut dude, that never changed.

brain drain

06-17-2011, 09:21 AM

Iverson was talkin' about practice.

Laimbeer_Rodman

06-17-2011, 09:29 AM

not a game,practice

R.I.P.

06-17-2011, 09:29 AM

LeBron brought this all upon himself. He surrounds himself with the wrong people. He

Jameerthefear

06-17-2011, 10:41 AM

I think I'm buying an Allen Iverson jersey :cheers:

Pointguard

06-17-2011, 10:47 AM

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]LeBron brought this all upon himself. He surrounds himself with the wrong people. He

Funnyfuka

06-17-2011, 10:55 AM

people who act badly are despised by others.

How is that hard to understand? When you act good you re not hated, as simple as that. when it takes you 30 or 40 years to understand that principle it means you ve been badly raised.

You re suposed to be taught by your parents how not to be hated by other people by following some moral principles in life, this way you dont end being hated by others. When you end being hated by others it's not because they loved you in the first place, but because you did some things wrong. There s never ever smoke if there isnt a fire somewhere first.

There are kids who are 16 y o and alrdy understood this "life lesson" AI is giving in this interview, simply because they were raised by good parents. It just takes a lot more time for people who havent been loved by their own parents to understand this fundamental principle of "karma" or cause/consequence.

Also having money has nothing to do with hapiness which are two very different things.

Rose, dirk, durant are not hated because they dont think they re better than everyone else and do not create all by themselves all the drama lebron has been creating. I blame the lack of a father figure for acting that way, and being advised by an almighty single mother and a bad entourage of sycophants as friends. Dirk, rose and durant have had father figures to replace their absent fathers; a grandfather, a coach or something, lebron didnt, he always had his mom and...friends. His personality is shaped by these influences.

R.I.P.

06-17-2011, 10:55 AM

Why should he be hated for the decision?

You serious? Outside of Cleveland he

k-SkiLLz

06-17-2011, 12:22 PM

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]LeBron brought this all upon himself. He surrounds himself with the wrong people. He

colorz

06-17-2011, 01:29 PM

Damn, I miss Allen Iverson...

Realest motherf*cker to play in the NBA.

Disaprine

06-17-2011, 01:32 PM

A.I. being A.I. nothing new here.

BMOGEFan

06-17-2011, 01:39 PM

Hows iverson doing in turkey anyways?

bdreason

06-17-2011, 02:15 PM

It isn't just sports or Basketball. Our society loves to build people up and tear them down. It makes the average nobody feel better about themselves to see more successful people fail or struggle.

Lucifer

06-17-2011, 02:19 PM

I think it's pretty common knowledge the media is looking to rip people apart the second they get the chance. It's how they make their money You guys make it sound like he said something real deep.

Funnyfuka

06-17-2011, 02:21 PM

It isn't just sports or Basketball. Our society loves to build people up and tear them down. It makes the average nobody feel better about themselves to see more successful people fail or struggle.
you re dumb. People arent built up, they build themselves. And when they ruin it all acting badly they are the center of interest of everyone else. When they dont, they just keep being worshipped. They have their fate in their own hands like anyone else, it's just they wanted the scrutinity.

Da Heroic One

06-17-2011, 03:09 PM

Don't think it is possible to sound more annoying than Allen Iverson.

GOBB

06-17-2011, 03:24 PM

you re dumb. People arent built up, they build themselves.

http://weblogs.baltimoresun.com/sports/schmuck/Lebron-James-SI-cover-chosenone.jpg

Lebron James has been built up since high school you dumbass. Read the caption, as a junior Lebron would be an NBA lottery pick RIGHT NOW. But thats created by Lebron, the 16yr old at the time.

Do I need to walk you thru the magazines? The articles? The ridiculous comments such as before Bron played 1 NBA game you had a sportswriter claim he would win an NBA title by year 4 of his career? How about Lebron James is so mature for his age. Thats what seperates him as a rookie from others. His maturity level. Well guess what? How the f*ck is Lebrons maturity level right now? Thats what I thought. But again, this was all built up by Lebron tho right?

And you have the nerve to call someone stupid for making a decent point that holds true.

You are a funny fuka indeed. :facepalm

RichSmoove

06-17-2011, 04:07 PM

He's just speaking the obvious. Name me a superstar who hasn't been hated on? The more exposure you get, the more hate there is. Its all proportional.

KokeAyne

06-17-2011, 05:14 PM

"You can call me a murderer dawg. Somebody come in my house, then I'll get it done."

:bowdown: :bowdown:

Kevin_Gamble

06-17-2011, 05:59 PM

[QUOTE=R.I.P.]

He would have needed an NBA coach, that stood up to him from day one. If the Utah Jazz drafted Lebron James he

NugzHeat3

06-17-2011, 06:20 PM

Man that's some real talk right there.

"First they love you then they hate you then they love you again." -- Jay
This is true in most cases. Jordan was considered a dick before he won, he was accused of ball-hogging and being an arrogant prick. Everything changed when he won his first championship and it only got better from then on.

Same thing's gonna happen for LeBron granted he get can get his head out of his rear-end and work on his improving his mental aspect of the game. Wouldn't hurt if he either lost his weight to gain some of the quickness or tried to learn the basics of post-play.

kaiiu

06-17-2011, 06:23 PM

Prime Iverson>>>>Lebron

Samurai Swoosh

06-17-2011, 06:27 PM

Prime Iverson>>>>Lebron
Iverson's heart was bigger than LeBron's entire 6'8 270 lb frame.

BMOGEFan

06-17-2011, 06:51 PM

Prime Iverson>>>>Lebron

Iverson's Post game >>>>> Lebron's

Whoah10115

01-30-2012, 12:14 PM

Boy's too ghetto for his own good.

markymark

01-30-2012, 01:07 PM

who needs practice when you got psychic powers?

Poodle

01-30-2012, 01:48 PM

lol people act like Lebron is hated for no reason :facepalm

kobe has never pulled anything like what lebron did. in fact outside of the whole rape scandal which imo was a money grab, Kobe is real close to MJ in terms of how professionally he tends to carry himself given how big of a pro athlete he is. Classy athletes are becoming more a thing of the past it seems. lebron is basically the new age of rap grown brats that want everything catered to them and all of the attention in and outside of the NBA. they all want to be rappers these days, or live like them :rolleyes:

Poodle

01-30-2012, 01:51 PM

This is true in most cases. Jordan was considered a dick before he won, he was accused of ball-hogging and being an arrogant prick. Everything changed when he won his first championship and it only got better from then on.

Same thing's gonna happen for LeBron granted he get can get his head out of his rear-end and work on his improving his mental aspect of the game. Wouldn't hurt if he either lost his weight to gain some of the quickness or tried to learn the basics of post-play.

nobody hated on MJ, if anything he had the best drive game in the NBA before he got his jumper. he was a ball hog because he was that good. who the hell was hating on him? :wtf:

ILLsmak

01-30-2012, 01:53 PM

lol people act like Lebron is hated for no reason :facepalm

kobe has never pulled anything like what lebron did. in fact outside of the whole rape scandal(...)

lol

-Smak

Poodle

01-30-2012, 02:08 PM

lol

-Smak

to me theres a huge difference between something like that and lebrons 'decision', or KG's posse he rolls with everywhere. that stuff is very controllable and purposely creating a egotistical/rapper immature image that comes across poorly for the NBA and them. Many average people don't like them because it shows their persona's in a immature light.

where as rape allegations blackmailing for money settlements, which i'd call an isolated incident, and MJ gambling or being seen with porn stars isn't a regular part of their persona's. Kobe/MJ are/were both great at being ambassadors for the NBA, and all in all have carried themselves with a lot of class which is commendable given that they were THE face of the NBA. basically they were/arae role models for young kids that almost every parent would be happy about, where as Lebron or KG would be the opposite....even AI would fall into the poor role model side. some players are just ghetto and stay that way, while some grow up....

OhNoTimNoSho

01-30-2012, 03:46 PM

nobody hated on MJ, if anything he had the best drive game in the NBA before he got his jumper. he was a ball hog because he was that good. who the hell was hating on him? :wtf:
People were saying that he dominates the ball and doesnt share and therefore cant win a championship in his early years.

Kevin_Gamble

01-30-2012, 03:50 PM

to me theres a huge difference between something like that and lebrons 'decision', or KG's posse he rolls with everywhere. that stuff is very controllable and purposely creating a egotistical/rapper immature image that comes across poorly for the NBA and them. Many average people don't like them because it shows their persona's in a immature light.

where as rape allegations blackmailing for money settlements, which i'd call an isolated incident, and MJ gambling or being seen with porn stars isn't a regular part of their persona's. Kobe/MJ are/were both great at being ambassadors for the NBA, and all in all have carried themselves with a lot of class which is commendable given that they were THE face of the NBA. basically they were/arae role models for young kids that almost every parent would be happy about, where as Lebron or KG would be the opposite....even AI would fall into the poor role model side. some players are just ghetto and stay that way, while some grow up....

I love Kobe and MJ as players, but getting into a rape trial and having a huge gambling problem are not exactly "a lot of class" and nothing I want from a role model. But I guess that's preferable to wearing a doo-rag and being "ghetto."

Faptastrophe

01-30-2012, 03:58 PM

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

returnofthemack

01-30-2012, 03:59 PM

The difference is, people hate Lebron without him having gone to jail, without him doing any known of crime, without him cheating on his wife, etc... They just hate him for his whole persona.

exactly we hate him bc he might look like a human being on the outside but on the inside hes just a big sack of poop. you may think you see massive muscles when you look at his arms but no its just chunks of poop that have collected underneath his flesh that give the apperance of muscle.

returnofthemack

01-30-2012, 04:00 PM

You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.

damn!!!! thats deep... ohh wait a minute. thats just what 2 face said in the dark knight. damn you hollywood! damn you!

Mr. Jabbar

01-30-2012, 04:06 PM

"da las real ni.gga to play in da nba"

-youtube comment

Poodle

01-30-2012, 04:21 PM

I love Kobe and MJ as players, but getting into a rape trial and having a huge gambling problem are not exactly "a lot of class" and nothing I want from a role model. But I guess that's preferable to wearing a doo-rag and being "ghetto."

i just don't see it that way mainly because MJ/Kobe carry themselves like professionals, and its everything you watch of them on or off the court more or less. The stuff i cited about them is so secondary or very isolated iincidents at least publicly, that its not their every day issues others see/read... if anything i give both of them a lot of credit for being as dignified as they have been as the face of the NBA. both of them could have been a lot more 'ghetto' like KG or a lot of other NBA players who are still like hood grown ups...

i mean i'm still reading about lebrons 'entourage' being a joke management team, and how hard they are to deal with. lebron publicly threatening to leave Miami because Riley is too strict on him. the 'decision' wasn't even that long ago. lebron could be the biggest self entitled brat in nba history with the way his persona is shaping up....

on top of all of that, its also the way they interact with fans. Kobe is very similar to MJ in how well he does it from what i've seen.

i won't even get into KG since it'll probably get some people real butthurt

kentatm

01-30-2012, 04:25 PM

u know lebron had the same persona before the decision right? He didn't just become a douche last off season. He wasn't this hated before.

he was already starting to lose fans for being arrogant as all hell

The Decision and all of the ridiculous entitled preening that following simply made the issues his detractors had been pointing out blatantly obvious.

LeBron has only his own hubris to blame for his current villain status.

Kevin_Gamble

01-30-2012, 04:54 PM

i just don't see it that way mainly because MJ/Kobe carry themselves like professionals, and its everything you watch of them on or off the court more or less. The stuff i cited about them is so secondary or very isolated iincidents at least publicly, that its not their every day issues others see/read... if anything i give both of them a lot of credit for being as dignified as they have been as the face of the NBA. both of them could have been a lot more 'ghetto' like KG or a lot of other NBA players who are still like hood grown ups...

You think being hauled into court for rape allegations is secondary? Do you have any idea how serious of a crime that is? And gambling--in a league with serious credibility issues--is secondary but how you dress is not? No one without an agenda could confuse these issues.

Poodle

01-30-2012, 05:02 PM

You think being hauled into court for rape allegations is secondary? Do you have any idea how serious of a crime that is? And gambling--in a league with serious credibility issues--is secondary but how you dress is not? No one without an agenda could confuse these issues.

they were allegations. i could probably give you a ton of scenario's that you may have been in yourself, where a female could get you for rape allegations, but you aren't the opportune target Kobe is. very fine line between insertion and a "stop it" or "no" after the fact, that can be turned into rape. unless she has black eyes, scratches and cuts, along with kobe, i'm very doubtful it was 'rape'.

gambling is nothing....only to very religious christian conservatives is it so wrong, or the most uptight soccer moms.

but like i said the fans aren't seeing that regularly like they're seeing KG with his posse, or lookiin/acting all ghetto, on and off the court. lebron time and again has been in the media with his diva'ness. its them that everyone see's or reads all of the time, where as kobe/MJ have only had very isolated iincidents. its just common sense to me the difference, whether you want to think kobe/mj are worse is up to you...

image-wise they are way above a lot of others in the NBA.

Kblaze8855

01-30-2012, 05:52 PM

Always loved AI. the part where htey played Larry browns comments on him was something. Iverson damn near crying....

Kblaze8855

01-30-2012, 05:55 PM

Kinda wondering about this:

but like i said the fans aren't seeing that regularly like they're seeing KG with his posse

I...dont think ive ever seen KG with his "posse" on camera. Ive seen him in person. Hes from like 5 minutes from here. I know a couple of the people who used to run with him. but where do fans just see his "posse"?

Do I miss the tv coverage of his friends?