Why did the Bulls pass up SGs? Are they stupid?

[GOBB]

They better add one in the offseason. Probably stubborn from last seasons success in thinking the team is fine as is.

[ZaaaaaH]

They better add one in the offseason. Probably stubborn from last seasons success in thinking the team is fine as is.

They working on JR right now

[Jasper]

They finally realized they have one in Rose ?

[DRose1899]

Nah we'll get one in offseason. Hopefully.

[Theoo's Daddy]

They working on JR right now

i still think they should've never let ben jordan go.

[Rose]

dumbasses

That's why

[DRose1899]

They finally realized they have one in Rose ?
Makes me dreaming of kirk :cry:
Damn you miami big 3.

[Theoo's Daddy]

dumbasses

That's why

I don't think a rookie SG was the answer. They should get somebody in FA.

[Samurai Swoosh]

i still think they should've never let ben jordan go.
Shows how much you know about Ben Gordon, the Bulls, and basketball ... Ben GORDON is super good riddance. Don't ever combine his name with Jordan's again, thank you very much.

:D

[ZaaaaaH]

i still think they should've never let ben Gordan go.

Well they didnt want to pay Ben the money he was asking because Bulls thought they would take little bit longer to be a Title Contenders. Also no one thought Bulls were going to rise this Quick especially Rose and the overall defense of the team.

But yea if they had Ben, Miami series could of been different since Ben will change a lot of things around for both teams.

[Theoo's Daddy]

Shows how much you know about Ben Gordon, the Bulls, and basketball ... Ben GORDON is super good riddance. Don't ever combine his name with Jordan's again, thank you very much.

:D

:oldlol: :oldlol: But dude was getting your team buckets though. If the Bulls overpay for JR smith, i'll be laughing so hard at ya'll. JR smith is no better than gordon, atleat ben has shown he can score more than 30 pts consistently. JR might drop 25pts today and dissappear for another week. Their defense are almost identical.

[ZaaaaaH]

:oldlol: :oldlol: But dude was getting your team buckets though. If the Bulls overpay for JR smith, i'll be laughing so hard at ya'll. JR smith is no better than gordon, atleat ben has shown he can score more than 30 pts consistently. JR might drop 25pts today and dissappear for another week. Their defense are almost identical.

No doubt Bens offense is slightly better and little bit more consistent BUT JR is only 25 and still has about 3 years to Grow.

Yea its really gonna come down to what kind of money people will offer him because he can drop 45 first 2 games and then disappear for rest of his contract if he gets a FAT one. cuz he promised BirdMan and KMart that he will blaze with them once he get a new contract

[97 bulls]

:oldlol: :oldlol: But dude was getting your team buckets though. If the Bulls overpay for JR smith, i'll be laughing so hard at ya'll. JR smith is no better than gordon, atleat ben has shown he can score more than 30 pts consistently. JR might drop 25pts today and dissappear for another week. Their defense are almost identical.
Yep and gordon would routinely give up 31 on the nights that he woul score 30. And his biggest pproblem is he didn't want to be the 6th man. He saw himself as a starting SG. And he wanted starting guard money. Even felt he should've been the highest paid player on the team.

He not only needed to go, but he wanted to go.

[pegasus]

Even if we had had the #1 pick, we still wouldn't have been able to address the SG issue. We need to sign or trade for an experienced one.

[chazzy]

:oldlol: :oldlol: But dude was getting your team buckets though. If the Bulls overpay for JR smith, i'll be laughing so hard at ya'll. JR smith is no better than gordon, atleat ben has shown he can score more than 30 pts consistently. JR might drop 25pts today and dissappear for another week. Their defense are almost identical.
And what kind of money did Gordon demand?

[Theoo's Daddy]

Yep and gordon would routinely give up 31 on the nights that he woul score 30. And his biggest pproblem is he didn't want to be the 6th man. He saw himself as a starting SG. And he wanted starting guard money. Even felt he should've been the highest paid player on the team.

He not only needed to go, but he wanted to go.

Well i'm just saying, if i had to make a choice btw JR and gordon. I'll take gordon all the time.

[VishaltotheG]

Well i'm just saying, if i had to make a choice btw JR and gordon. I'll take gordon all the time.

You are so damn retarded it's just...just...MGGMGMGMMHHHGHGHGHGHH

How the hell do you think the Bulls would have gotten this good if Gordon stayed? Our true MVP was the defense and Gordon had none. On top of that, Gordon asking for that Turkoglu esque contract? WTF.

JR 5 yrs 30-40 mil > Ben w/e fat f*cking contract he got

[GOBB]

Even if we had had the #1 pick, we still wouldn't have been able to address the SG issue. We need to sign or trade for an experienced one.

Bulls would have added a much better talent than they have right now. A SG that would grow with the team where you dont need to trade any valuable assets for one. Marshon Brooks would have been perfect.

[Bone Machine]

Some random SG with the 30th pick would be no better than Bogans/Brewer/Korver.

[GOBB]

I dont watch much college basketball.

Fixed.

[Theoo's Daddy]

You are so damn retarded it's just...just...MGGMGMGMMHHHGHGHGHGHH

How the hell do you think the Bulls would have gotten this good if Gordon stayed? Our true MVP was the defense and Gordon had none. On top of that, Gordon asking for that Turkoglu esque contract? WTF.

JR 5 yrs 30-40 mil > Ben w/e fat f*cking contract he got


Dude, you think JR is better defensively than Gordon ? come on. Offensively gordon is more consistent than him. Don't even get into the dumb decisions JR makes. Only good thing is he might come cheap to ya'll and he's younger. But like i said, if you guys overpay for him, i'll be laughing at ya'll.

[LA_Showtime]

Yes, they are stupid. They let Tyson go and now they have a worse version of him. They signed Boozer to that ridiculous contract. They've made a bunch of dumb mistakes over the past 5-6 years. Watch them trade Gibson this summer. :oldlol:

[pegasus]

Bulls would have added a much better talent than they have right now. A SG that would grow with the team where you dont need to trade any valuable assets for one. Marshon Brooks would have been perfect.

We're done growing. It's time to win.

[97 bulls]

We're done growing. It's time to win.
I agree with this. No more projects. We don't need anymore youth, we need a guy that can hit the ground running.

I like the overseas guy they drafted. But the bulls are trying to win or should be trying to win now. Not just 3 years from now

[Bucket_Nakedz]

like who, brooks? gtfoh wit dat pb & j bullsh!t, zon. the kid spent no ounce of energy of the defensive end. it's bad enough we got boozer to make up for, but putting that kid would've taken us away from our identity; which is defense. the answer was never in the draft... gar will take us home.

[Jasper]

The weakest or 2nd weakest position in the NBA right now is either the SF or SG....

not much talent to choose from to get legit strokers.

I think for the future your going to see a lot more Euro's coming into the league as SG's , because it is a weakness in the league.

Didn't the Bulls pick before the Celtic's :confusedshrug: marshon Brooks would of been a big help for the Bulls scoring.

If you don't think there is a need for stokers , look at yesterday :
Mav's get Fernandez , Kings get Salmons , Bucks get JAx

[Theoo's Daddy]

like who, brooks? gtfoh wit dat pb & j bullsh!t, zon. the kid spent no ounce of energy of the defensive end. it's bad enough we got boozer to make up for, but putting that kid would've taken us away from our identity; which is defense. the answer was never in the draft... gar will take us home.

yeah, but you won't find that guy your looking for. Maybe if you get aflalo but i doubt denver will be giving him up that easily. You have to give up something to get something. Look at the lakers, everyone knew fisher was a bum on defense in his older years, but he always hit some clutch shot, Rondo has no jump shot but he can run a offense very well, Shaq was a poor PNR defender/poor freethrow shooter, but he would dominate the paint. You catch my drift ? Bulls will have to get a scorer who is poor defensively, it's the nature of the game.

[pegasus]

I agree with this. No more projects. We don't need anymore youth, we need a guy that can hit the ground running.

I like the overseas guy they drafted. But the bulls are trying to win or should be trying to win now. Not just 3 years from now

I actually liked that move. No one in this draft was going to help us immediately anyway. So why not make a long-term (possible high pay-off) investment while keeping that draft pick off the books this year when we need every single dollar to sign or trade for someone good.

[Theoo's Daddy]

The weakest or 2nd weakest position in the NBA right now is either the SF or SG....

not much talent to choose from to get legit strokers.

I think for the future your going to see a lot more Euro's coming into the league as SG's , because it is a weakness in the league.

Didn't the Bulls pick before the Celtic's :confusedshrug: marshon Brooks would of been a big help for the Bulls scoring.

If you don't think there is a need for stokers , look at yesterday :
Mav's get Fernandez , Kings get Salmons , Bucks get JAx

There might not be superstar SG's coming up but there are alot of young SG's coming up, Nick young,marcus thornton,monta ellis,eric gordon,derozan,xavier henry, just to name a few. I don't think a Superstar SG with ginobli talent from europe will be coming over, i doubt if one exists either..

[Bucket_Nakedz]

yeah, but you won't find that guy your looking for. Maybe if you get aflalo but i doubt denver will be giving him up that easily. You have to give up something to get something. Look at the lakers, everyone knew fisher was a bum on defense in his older years, but he always hit some clutch shot, Rondo has no jump shot but he can run a offense very well, Shaq was a poor PNR defender/poor freethrow shooter, but he would dominate the paint. You catch my drift ? Bulls will have to get a scorer who is poor defensively, it's the nature of the game.
naturally, i would agree with you. but because of boozer, we really can't afford that luxury. you can get away with 1 player being defensively inept, but 2? even thibs ain't that good enough.

[pegasus]

The weakest or 2nd weakest position in the NBA right now is either the SF or SG....

not much talent to choose from to get legit strokers.

I think for the future your going to see a lot more Euro's coming into the league as SG's , because it is a weakness in the league.

Didn't the Bulls pick before the Celtic's :confusedshrug: marshon Brooks would of been a big help for the Bulls scoring.

If you don't think there is a need for stokers , look at yesterday :
Mav's get Fernandez , Kings get Salmons , Bucks get JAx

Portland got rid off Fernandez, Milwaukee did away with Salmons, Charlotte sent JAX home packing.

[Theoo's Daddy]

naturally, i would agree with you. but because of boozer, we really can't afford that luxury. you can get away with 1 player being defensively inept, but 2? even thibs ain't that good enough.

The only way to make it up is to make sure you get a good scorer. or thibs will have to find a scheme that patches the bleeding. You can't have it all. You either remain the way you are right now or make bold moves and find fixes for the flaws.

[pegasus]

The only way to make it up is to make sure you get a good scorer. or thibs will have to find a scheme that patches the bleeding. You can't have it all. You either remain the way you are right now or make bold moves and find fixes for the flaws.

Says a Heat fan. :lol

[97 bulls]

I actually liked that move. No one in this draft was going to help us immediately anyway. So why not make a long-term (possible high pay-off) investment while keeping that draft pick off the books this year when we need every single dollar to sign or trade for someone good.
Oh I love the move based on what I've read about him. A sure lottery pick even top 5-8 talent if he wasnt under other contractual obligations. I just don't want them to settle.

[GOBB]

We're done growing. It's time to win.

Marshon Brooks doesnt needs years to give Chicago help. He'll do it day 1.

[GOBB]

like who, brooks? gtfoh wit dat pb & j bullsh!t, zon. the kid spent no ounce of energy of the defensive end. it's bad enough we got boozer to make up for, but putting that kid would've taken us away from our identity; which is defense. the answer was never in the draft... gar will take us home.

And the star player of your team plays no defense. And your best defensive guard rarely plays 20mins. Go figure. :rolleyes:

[Bucket_Nakedz]

Marshon Brooks doesnt needs years to give Chicago help. He'll do it day 1.
is that why he fell to the 25th?

[Theoo's Daddy]

Says a Heat fan. :lol
:oldlol: :oldlol: :oldlol: .

We still didnt have PG/center and bench though.

[GOBB]

is that why he fell to the 25th?

Plenty of good players fell in drafts. If Marshon Brooks went top 10 then your reply to me would be "Bulls couldnt move up that high without sacrificing valuable pieces. Not worth it". :rolleyes:

And I like how you bash his defense when it wasnt defense that had the Bulls not advancing last series. I'll let you figure that one out. And what established, veteran SG are you lookin at? Be careful, I hope they play defense.

*cough*Jr Smith*cough*, *cough*J-Richardson*cough*

:rolleyes:

[Jasper]

Portland got rid off Fernandez, Milwaukee did away with Salmons, Charlotte sent JAX home packing.

great post - sounds like they left the NBA :facepalm

[Rose]

great post - sounds like they left the NBA :facepalm
In all fairness, I'm pretty sure that was just a shuffling of shitty contracts.
(ignore the rudy fernandez trade that was brilliant)
Except Sactown bent over and took it in the ass for no apparent reason.

[Jasper]

There might not be superstar SG's coming up but there are alot of young SG's coming up, Nick young,marcus thornton,monta ellis,eric gordon,derozan,xavier henry, just to name a few. I don't think a Superstar SG with ginobli talent from europe will be coming over, i doubt if one exists either..


This post appears to agree with me then ,, there is a lack of shooters at the 2 spot.
Bulls could of swung a deal with the Warriors to get a shooter , and moved sthere draft pick and future draft picks , if they thought there time to win was this up coming season.

The league saw what the Bulls are doing now , and will adjust. Needless to say Rose was acting less as PG and more of a scoring threat Option1 and option 2-4 was getting his teamates involved , all based on a NON-SG.

[pegasus]

great post - sounds like they left the NBA :facepalm

I just gave you a different angle to prove that those moves could also suggest that there in an excessive supply in SG position.

^^^ Rose got your answer.

[Bucket_Nakedz]

Plenty of good players fell in drafts. If Marshon Brooks went top 10 then your reply to me would be "Bulls couldnt move up that high without sacrificing valuable pieces. Not worth it". :rolleyes:

And I like how you bash his defense when it wasnt defense that had the Bulls not advancing last series. I'll let you figure that one out. And what established, veteran SG are you lookin at? Be careful, I hope they play defense.

*cough*Jr Smith*cough*, *cough*J-Richardson*cough*

:rolleyes:
see, im glad you brought that up. because in the first 2 losses against the heat, thibs subbed korver in for the nearly the whole fourth to provide offense. seeing as korver couldn't hit jack (and obviously can't play no d), miami exposed us with the pnr [on korver] and we got our ass handed. now in both games 4 and 5 (no asik), he left brewer in for the majority of the 4th, which gave us an advantage because we led most of that quarter and could have won those games if it weren't for rose choking.

you see, it ain't as simple as it may seem. and yes, id take both jr and jrich before an unproven prospect any day of the week.

[Pinkhearts]

This drafting for need thing is getting out of hand.

Unless that kid is a real star, there is no way he can step in immediately and fulfill your needs anyway. It will take him a few years to develop.

Even if the player is a real star, chances are your current first teamer is still better for now. Hinrich still started ahead of Rose, Kobe rode the bench, Lebron was playing pg. It took a year or two before these guys took over.

[Samurai Swoosh]

Bulls managment is stupid ... so this is all moot

[Jasper]

In all fairness, I'm pretty sure that was just a shuffling of shitty contracts.
(ignore the rudy fernandez trade that was brilliant)
Except Sactown bent over and took it in the ass for no apparent reason.
If shitty contracts are the cause then it would say the league is weak in the SG position for those teams to acquire those players to "HELP" them win.



I just gave you a different angle to prove that those moves could also suggest that there in an excessive supply in SG position.

^^^ Rose got your answer.
The league has shown that more teams than most have wishful hopes that SG's would evolve into a reliable source of offense.

The above moves I mentioned are teams THAT wanted those players , because they were not fitting into the trade partners future plans DING DING DING
If your a good or VG shooting guard it would be a rare thing for a player to get traded. THE LEAGUE IS weak in that spot.
Yes there is a few up and coming SG's , but many SG's are under sized , and are having difficulty being effective.
If your blind to that , it is a.o.k. // but the Bulls could of been far more pro active in a trade or a draft pick to help their cause.

That is why I am saying more than likely (logic here) Euro players learn fundamentals of the game , and naturally are shooters from the outside.
I expect to see more Euro's become SG's.

[Rose]

I actually think Shooting guards grow on trees. I mean the basis of the game is scoring, and with the kids who watched MJ being grown up, and mixed with the Kobe fans now....it's going to be even more prevalent.
I mean Wade, Kobe, Manu, EJ, Ellis, Rip(on a good team, NOT the pistons), Ray, J-rich, Afflalo, Mayo, T-mac(risky I know), Cap'n Jack, Roy, Wes Matthews, Wesley Johnson, Nick Young,

are all starters I'd trust on my team. That's pretty good. That means about every other team has one. Compared to center there's maybe 4-5 guys I'd want on my team. Power forward...maybe 8? Small forwards, I can't think of a bad small forward starter really, aside from Hedo, and RJ, and whoever starts for the Kings :oldlol: Point guard? Maybe 15 or so about the same as shooting guard.

[Rose]

I don't think that they traded because it's weak. They traded because none were fits. Cap'n jack doesnt want to play on a rebuilding team and why have on your team anyways when you can trade him for a higher draft pick?

Maggette doesn't play defense, and didn't get to the line which is why they traded for him in the first place(the bucks were in the bottom 5 in FT% in 09). and he's more of a small forward anyways.

[Jasper]

I actually think Shooting guards grow on trees. I mean the basis of the game is scoring, and with the kids who watched MJ being grown up, and mixed with the Kobe fans now....it's going to be even more prevalent.
I mean Wade, Kobe, Manu, EJ, Ellis, Rip(on a good team, NOT the pistons), Ray, J-rich, Afflalo, Mayo, T-mac(risky I know), Cap'n Jack, Roy, Wes Matthews, Wesley Johnson, Nick Young,

are all starters I'd trust on my team. Point guard? Maybe 15 or so about the same as shooting guard.

You are right the young grade school kid idolizies the super star and if they grow to correct heights and have a work ethic their schools help them with , can become next generation SG's.
Those idols of MJ , Kobe etc .,.. will probably generate 15 years from now legit shooters .. maybe less time.
Right now I'd say there are probably 7 legit strokers in the league and only a few can actually take over a game.
Most franchise exec's thought martin was the next coming of a Houston stroker. .Most games he is in has at best average impact to a game.

Guys which i would of thought 10 years ago Glen Rice types would of been a dime a dozen... now are rare breeds.

[Rose]

You are right the young grade school kid idolizies the super star and if they grow to correct heights and have a work ethic their schools help them with , can become next generation SG's.
Those idols of MJ , Kobe etc .,.. will probably generate 15 years from now legit shooters .. maybe less time.
Right now I'd say there are probably 7 legit strokers in the league and only a few can actually take over a game.
Most franchise exec's thought martin was the next coming of a Houston stroker. .Most games he is in has at best average impact to a game.

Guys which i would of thought 10 years ago Glen Rice types would of been a dime a dozen... now are rare breeds.
Oh I agree with you on this.

[Go Getter]

tell me, who were they supposed to get at #28 that would have made that much of a difference.

[eeeeeebro]

They better add one in the offseason. Probably stubborn from last seasons success in thinking the team is fine as is.

We need a VET at SG we need someone who knows how to score like ellis

[Rhinox]

And the star player of your team plays no defense. And your best defensive guard rarely plays 20mins. Go figure. :rolleyes:

http://offthedribble.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/01/19/rose-dwarfs-other-improvements-with-defense/

:sleeping

try harder

[3zazer1]

Yes, they are stupid. They let Tyson go and now they have a worse version of him. They signed Boozer to that ridiculous contract. They've made a bunch of dumb mistakes over the past 5-6 years. Watch them trade Gibson this summer. :oldlol:

Arn't the Lakers the ones that didn't pull the trigger on the Melo deal?
This draft was PG heavy. Brooks wouldv'e been good but I think that there going for a more established 2 guard. Smith would be good but Afflo would fit in perfectly.

[nightprowler10]

Hinrich still started ahead of Rose
No he didn't.

[Go Getter]

No he didn't.


Exactly.

Rose was starting PG from day one.

[Pinkhearts]

I remember Hinrich playing more minutes at PG ahead of Rose at the start. They then shifted Hinrich over to 2 guard later. Pretty sure Hinrich was the primary PG at the start when Rose was learning the ropes.

I could also give plenty other examples of stars taking a while before being given a big role

[dee-rose]

This drafting for need thing is getting out of hand.

Unless that kid is a real star, there is no way he can step in immediately and fulfill your needs anyway. It will take him a few years to develop.

Even if the player is a real star, chances are your current first teamer is still better for now. Hinrich still started ahead of Rose, Kobe rode the bench, Lebron was playing pg. It took a year or two before these guys took over.
Lebron basically still plays PG, and Hinrich only started for part of the pre-season. Other then that, I agree with what you're saying. The bulls need a guard that has experience in the league.

[Go Getter]

I remember Hinrich playing more minutes at PG ahead of Rose at the start. They then shifted Hinrich over to 2 guard later. Pretty sure Hinrich was the primary PG at the start when Rose was learning the ropes.

I could also give plenty other examples of stars taking a while before being given a big role


You remember wrong sir.

Rose was handed the keys from jump and Hinrich was placed in the secondary ball handler slot.

Learning the ropes?

Rose played a better PG than Hinrich without any pro experience tbh.

[themurph]

We need a VET at SG we need someone who knows how to score like ellis


Yep...Except taller....

[bdreason]

S-Jax would've been sick in Chicago. Bucks are gonna be good next year that team is DEEP.

[GOBB]

We need a VET at SG we need someone who knows how to score like ellis

Bulls are not getting Monta Ellis. Be realistic. He's arguably a top 5 SG.


tell me, who were they supposed to get at #28 that would have made that much of a difference

Once again, Marshon Brooks.

[Hondo]

Shows how much you know about Ben Gordon, the Bulls, and basketball ... Ben GORDON is super good riddance. Don't ever combine his name with Jordan's again, thank you very much.

:D

It's Madison Square Gordon

[Bigsmoke]

:oldlol: :oldlol: But dude was getting your team buckets though. If the Bulls overpay for JR smith, i'll be laughing so hard at ya'll. JR smith is no better than gordon, atleat ben has shown he can score more than 30 pts consistently. JR might drop 25pts today and dissappear for another week. Their defense are almost identical.

check out his paper demands.

[sagr32]

Once again, Marshon Brooks.
he was drafted and then traded by the celtics at 25

[GOBB]

he was drafted and then traded by the celtics at 25

Trade up and pick him. Why are u making this difficult? Not rocket science

[GOBB]

Another player Jordan hamtilton bulls could've went after. Then Chicago trades Malcolm lee for what? Smh.

Good luck getting monta Ellis or whatever the plan is

[Dengness9]

Another player Jordan hamtilton bulls could've went after. Then Chicago trades Malcolm lee for what? Smh.

Good luck getting monta Ellis or whatever the plan is


Gobb you are acting like a know it all POS in this thread. You clearly don't know what you are talking about here.

Bulls were NEVER gonna get a starting SG out of this draft. Gar/Pax tried to move up by packaging both 1st rounders. And even if that would have worked it still doesn't mean they would have drafted a SG.

I don't know why you have such a hard on for Marson Brooks. I don't know what he'll turn out to be, but quit acting like the guy is a for sure thing or even a capable starting SG in the league yet.

Btw, the Bulls selected Jimmy Butler because he apparently dominates Brooks in a final workout. Not to mention in Chicago, it's been reported the Bulls also weren't sold on Brooks attitude. He apparently has somewhat of a selfish tune to him.


The plan the entire time is to upgrade SG through FA or trade.

Jr Smith is the guy they should go for.

[Dengness9]

But hey, nce worthless thread anyway.....

[boozehound]

you see, it ain't as simple as it may seem. and yes, id take both jr and jrich before an unproven prospect any day of the week.

Im with you if all prices are the same or there isnt a salary cap. But in reality, getting a young sg who could contribute in at least your sg squadron this year would be a valuable asset. Realistically, you guys cant trade for monta (which would be a bad move IMO anyways) or get dudes like afflalo. You might be able to get JR, but even that is a long shot. I would suggest someone like J rich is your best shot this offseason. I think he would really help that team and allow you to trade maybe korver and bogans for something else. I would keep brewer if I were the bulls.

[GOBB]

Gobb you are acting like a know it all POS in this thread. You clearly don't know what you are talking about here.

I clearly do.


Bulls were NEVER gonna get a starting SG out of this draft.

They could have and elected not too. Hence, why I asked are they stupid.


Gar/Pax tried to move up by packaging both 1st rounders. And even if that would have worked it still doesn't mean they would have drafted a SG.

Bulls traded up to 23. Dont tell me they couldnt move up in this draft. They did. Lots of teams were wheeling and dealing. Especially Minnesota.


I don't know why you have such a hard on for Marson Brooks. I don't know what he'll turn out to be, but quit acting like the guy is a for sure thing or even a capable starting SG in the league yet.

Its Marshon. He was the best SG available within reach for the Bulls to grab. I cant say Bulls should have got Klay Thompson because you would reply "He went too high. Bulls couldnt move that far up to get him"

The point you genius is the Bulls could have added a SG in this draft and didnt. Marshon is a guy who can step in right now and give you buckets. He's proved it in college. He did very well for himself in workouts, especially against SGs that went before him. He is a better offensive player than anything the Bulls have at the SG spot.


Btw, the Bulls selected Jimmy Butler because he apparently dominates Brooks in a final workout

And Brooks dominated Klay Thompson and Alec Burks in workouts. What exactly is your point here? You have none. Kinda sucks. Would you like me to help you make a point? Let me know.


Not to mention in Chicago, it's been reported the Bulls also weren't sold on Brooks attitude. He apparently has somewhat of a selfish tune to him.

Uh huh.


The plan the entire time is to upgrade SG through FA or trade.

Good luck with that happening. What SGs do you think the Bulls can realistically trade for? I'd love to laugh errrr hear.

The FA crop isnt that deep.


Jr Smith is the guy they should go for.

So the Bulls say Marshon Brooks has a selfish "tune" to him. And you say go after Jr Smith the immature, erratic, non defending SG. :roll:

And I dont know what I'm talkin about here. Jr Smith is the guy. Is Jr Smith an upgrade over Bogans? Thats stating the obvious. In fact if Keith Bogans was in the 2011 draft he would not go first round. Then again I'll withold such a commen because Chicago could end up taking him at the end of the first.

"See we got our SG! :bowdown: "

Good luck with Jr Smith.

I would have explored the option of adding a young SG in this draft. And I'm not the only one who thought this way. But hey some Bulls fans tend to play "defense" when it comes to their team attempting to reject anything that appears reasonable for fear it makes the front office look bad.

[Ronin]

They better add one in the offseason. Probably stubborn from last seasons success in thinking the team is fine as is.

what SG's were available when they were picking?

[GOBB]

what SG's were available when they were picking?

Do yourself a favor and reread the thread. Not answering this for a third time.

[Theoo's Daddy]

Looks like bulls are sold on JR smith, Is there any other Free agent SG available ?? You guys slept on fernandez, he's a not a bad defender and can knock down 3 point shots.

[NugzHeat3]

It's not like a Rose-Ellis backcourt is going to work anyway. Undersized which will hurt their defense and both need the ball to be effective.

Bulls need a SG who can shoot to space the floor and play solid defense. If you could combine Korver and Bogans into one, that'd be a good match.

I don't know much of the draftees so can't say anything about that.

[dee-rose]

Looks like bulls are sold on JR smith, Is there any other Free agent SG available ?? You guys slept on fernandez, he's a not a bad defender and can knock down 3 point shots.
They had the option of going for Rudy and opted not to.

[IN-PAX-WE-TRUST]

Why the hell would the Bulls fill a SG need at pick 30? They need a veteran who can create his own shot.

[GOBB]

Why the hell would the Bulls fill a SG need at pick 30? They need a veteran who can create his own shot.

Marshon Brooks, Jordan Hamilton are 2 talents within reach that could do just that. Cheaper price and could be there with the franchise for a minute.

But yeah go find that veteran SG who can create his own shot. Easy. Real simple even. Everyone wants to play for the Bulls, even on the cheap. :rolleyes:

[GOBB]

They had the option of going for Rudy and opted not to.

I wonder why. Could it be because "We're winning without him. Dont really need him actually. If it aint broke dont fix it. :banana: ".

You better hope the front office isnt thinking this way this offseason (if there is one).

[Dengness9]

I clearly do.



They could have and elected not too. Hence, why I asked are they stupid.



Bulls traded up to 23. Dont tell me they couldnt move up in this draft. They did. Lots of teams were wheeling and dealing. Especially Minnesota.



Its Marshon. He was the best SG available within reach for the Bulls to grab. I cant say Bulls should have got Klay Thompson because you would reply "He went too high. Bulls couldnt move that far up to get him"






The point you genius is the Bulls could have added a SG in this draft and didnt. Marshon is a guy who can step in right now and give you buckets. He's proved it in college. He did very well for himself in workouts, especially against SGs that went before him. He is a better offensive player than anything the Bulls have at the SG spot.



And Brooks dominated Klay Thompson and Alec Burks in workouts. What exactly is your point here? You have none. Kinda sucks. Would you like me to help you make a point? Let me know.



Uh huh.



Good luck with that happening. What SGs do you think the Bulls can realistically trade for? I'd love to laugh errrr hear.

The FA crop isnt that deep.



So the Bulls say Marshon Brooks has a selfish "tune" to him. And you say go after Jr Smith the immature, erratic, non defending SG. :roll:

And I dont know what I'm talkin about here. Jr Smith is the guy. Is Jr Smith an upgrade over Bogans? Thats stating the obvious. In fact if Keith Bogans was in the 2011 draft he would not go first round. Then again I'll withold such a commen because Chicago could end up taking him at the end of the first.

"See we got our SG! :bowdown: "

Good luck with Jr Smith.

I would have explored the option of adding a young SG in this draft. And I'm not the only one who thought this way. But hey some Bulls fans tend to play "defense" when it comes to their team attempting to reject anything that appears reasonable for fear it makes the front office look bad.

Are you related to Brooks or do you just have that much of a man crush on him???

Continue to act as if Brooks has proven anything yet, you sound like a cocky idiot as usual.

Is it fun to pretend that Marshon is half the offensive talent Jr Smith is? I don't care how selfish and downright stupid JR Smith is. He has been in the league since 2004, is only 25 and still has untapped potential defensively and as a player altogether. He has proven he is atleast an explosive scorer/playmaker.

What assets did the Bulls have that are worth giving up to move up to get any SG in this draft? Basically none, because why the Bulls trade Gibson or Asik, plus picks to move up for a rookie who probably isn't even NBA ready yet as a starter is beyond me, and I'm thankful they didn't do it.

Btw you little brat, Jr smith, Jason Richardson, Reggie Williams, Marcus Thornton, Affalo are all free agents who would be considered pretty major upgrades for the Bulls over Bogans and especially upgrades over any of these rookie SG's you speak of, or lack thereof.

There are other guys to try to trade for as well, Courtney Lee being a frontrunner for a player the Bulls could get relatively cheap.

When the Bulls sign a more than servicable SG in FA, I will laugh at you and this thread, in which you didn't know shit, pretended too, and then looked stupid for creating.

Oh and nice point about Bogans not being taken in the 1st round of this draft.....you're genius for realizing a 30+ year old wouldn't be drafted in the 1st round. But hey, Marshon Brooks is god and Kieth Bogans wasn't like the 3rd or 4th leading scorer in Kentucky History coming out of college.

Gobb stick to talking about the 76'ers and other things no one gives a shit about.

[bluechox2]

probably cause they might have thought of getting one through free agency who can help immediately rather than later

[GOBB]

Are you related to Brooks or do you just have that much of a man crush on him???

The topic is why did the Bulls pass up SGs, are they stupid?

It wasnt Bulls missed out on a future franchise caliber SG in Marshon Brooks. Everyone will pay for passing him up. Somehow in your mind (appears you are wasting that) my thread has a man crush on Marshon Brooks because he is the player listed when Bulls fans ask "Who could they have taken?"

Go figure.

I wonder how many people kicked themselves when they cheated off your test paper?


Continue to act as if Brooks has proven anything yet, you sound like a cocky idiot as usual.

He can create his own offense and get buckets in various ways. Nit ne SG for the Bulls can say they have that ability. Not one.


Is it fun to pretend that Marshon is half the offensive talent Jr Smith is? I don't care how selfish and downright stupid JR Smith is. He has been in the league since 2004, is only 25 and still has untapped potential defensively and as a player altogether. He has proven he is atleast an explosive scorer/playmaker.

He's been in the NBA for 7 years and somehow he has untapped potential. :oldlol:

Same thing Kwame Brown said until his untapped potential ran dry.
Same thing Darko is saying and he is nothing more than a career backup/starter by default

And now Jr Smith will magically untap this potential and be the player or close to the player we all thought he could be in Chicago. Why? Who knows, I guess Bulls winning more than 60 games and Thibs (defensive mastermind) will change it. He is what he is and most likely will always be.

But hey he's 25 and ages 27-29 he can be a much improved player. It just took damn near 9 to 10 NBA seasons to do it. The Nash of Sgs, blossoming late in his career. Is Jr Smith better than what the Bulls have? Yes, no disputing that. If Bulls somehow were to actually sign Jr Smith (he can go a number of places or stay in Denver who knows, Bulls have no edge) would I diss the move? No.

But my point is simple why put your eggs in 1 basket hoping for Jr Smith when you can explore options at your fingertips by aquiring a rookie scorer? You just abandon the search for a SG in the NBA draft because you are sold on Jr Smith coming to town. Or J-Rich coming to town for a discount? Thats stupid.

Bulls could have tried for Marshon Brooks and Jordan Hamilton. Would have been a very nice addition to the roster. Thats why I am critical of them not attempting to go after good talent that slipped in the draft at their fingertips.

But of course you being you? You'll miss the point and think I now have 2 mancrushes on Marshon Brooks and now Jordan Hamilton. :rolleyes:


What assets did the Bulls have that are worth giving up to move up to get any SG in this draft? Basically none, because why the Bulls trade Gibson or Asik, plus picks to move up for a rookie who probably isn't even NBA ready yet as a starter is beyond me, and I'm thankful they didn't do it.

Yo bozo, Bulls traded with Minnesota for thier 23rd pick and took a kid that wont come to America atleast for 3 years. Gave up 28 & 43 to do so. So dont tell me they had nothing to trade in a move up.


Btw you little brat, Jr smith, Jason Richardson, Reggie Williams, Marcus Thornton, Affalo are all free agents who would be considered pretty major upgrades for the Bulls over Bogans and especially upgrades over any of these rookie SG's you speak of, or lack thereof.

No one knows what the new CBA will look like. So I wont pretend to say this or that. Lets just stick with the current CBA? Are you with me? Bulls have no financial wiggle room financially so its all MLE. Jason Richardonson for his last contrac will take a MLE or go for more? Jr Smith will accept a MLE or go for more? Same with Marcus Thornton who had a production performance for the Queens. He may look to cash in as opposed to taking the MLE.

Aaron Afflalo is a RFA, which means Denver has the rights to match. Which means Bulls are less likely to make him an offer sheet because I dont see why Denver would not retain him. Sign and trade? Now you're going to part with assets you may not want too. Most namely Taj Gibson.

Reggie Williams? Thats like signing Ronnie Brewer as a free agent. If you think that solves the issue at SG? You're a bigger fool than I thought. You're back to platooning the SG spot with a Reggie Williams signings. Get a clue.

You were better off naming Jamal Crawford atleast. And again, is he taking less?

So the moral to the story you genius is whether these guys take less or not is a gamble. The draft came and you could atleast have added some insurance in case a FA signing doesnt fall your way. Thats what good franchises tend to do. They just dont expect the FA they want to come to them. But in your world? It'll happen that way. No chance for the Bulls not to add one of the guys (excluding Reggie friggin Williams) on your list.

If the CBA is about lessening salaries and the amount of years a team can gurantee? Good luck with a good samaritan free agent like Jason Richardson taking a cheap deal. Thats even if a MLE is around. Who knows, so lets not get into that. Lets stick with the current CBA because under the current one? Why would some of these guys take less money? Bulls not the champions.


There are other guys to try to trade for as well, Courtney Lee being a frontrunner for a player the Bulls could get relatively cheap.

:rolleyes:

Bulls could have traded for anyone and didnt want to part with guys like Taj Gibson and Asik. So yeah now they'll be willing too? And Courtney Lee? What has he proven since you're all about proven guys? That he is on pace to break Jim Jacksons total teams played for mark? 3 teams in 3 years, and according to you trading for him will be his 4th in 4yrs. Hilarious.


When the Bulls sign a more than servicable SG in FA, I will laugh at you and this thread, in which you didn't know shit, pretended too, and then looked stupid for creating.

I will laugh at you like I am now regardless.


Oh and nice point about Bogans not being taken in the 1st round of this draft.....you're genius for realizing a 30+ year old wouldn't be drafted in the 1st round. But hey, Marshon Brooks is god and Kieth Bogans wasn't like the 3rd or 4th leading scorer in Kentucky History coming out of college.

Bogans went 2nd rd out of Kentucky. He didnt go first round then as a young guy. :roll:

Never had the hype too either. Brooks was projected all up and down the first round. So was Hamilton.


Gobb stick to talking about the 76'ers and other things no one gives a shit about.

I'll stick to schooling snot nose degenerates like you.

[Samurai Swoosh]

It's not like a Rose-Ellis backcourt is going to work anyway. Undersized which will hurt their defense and both need the ball to be effective.

Bulls need a SG who can shoot to space the floor and play solid defense. If you could combine Korver and Bogans into one, that'd be a good match.

I don't know much of the draftees so can't say anything about that.
That's all true, but they also need someone who can create off the dribble.

[eeeeeebro]

Bulls are not getting Monta Ellis. Be realistic. He's arguably a top 5 SG.



Once again, Marshon Brooks.
i said like ellis not ellis just someone who is a vet not someone new

[eeeeeebro]

and if we cannot get that vet than we should wait till trade deadline to see if we can find one that way. Or hell just talk to mark cuban he can get us any player we want lol.

[GOBB]

and if we cannot get that vet than we should wait till trade deadline to see if we can find one that way. Or hell just talk to mark cuban he can get us any player we want lol.

Yeah wait until the trade deadline and do what? The same thing last trade deadline this past season. :facepalm

Whatever tho, its your team. Feel free to stick by whatever decision, no decision they make. Adding a young talented offensive player in this past draft could have been done. And that doesnt mean you still couldnt go into free agency lookin to add a vet. But it gives Bulls insurance in case you cant afford this vet you guys so fancy. And talkin trade is hilarious. What assets do you have that you're willing to part with again? Lets be realistic here.

No one is giving you jack sh!t for Bogans, Brewer, Korver combined. So you're not going to swindle any team for this SG "like Ellis". Get a grip with reality.

[Theoo's Daddy]

and if we cannot get that vet than we should wait till trade deadline to see if we can find one that way. Or hell just talk to mark cuban he can get us any player we want lol.

Can you explain this ??

[themurph]

Yeah wait until the trade deadline and do what? The same thing last trade deadline this past season. :facepalm

Whatever tho, its your team. Feel free to stick by whatever decision, no decision they make. Adding a young talented offensive player in this past draft could have been done. And that doesnt mean you still couldnt go into free agency lookin to add a vet. But it gives Bulls insurance in case you cant afford this vet you guys so fancy. And talkin trade is hilarious. What assets do you have that you're willing to part with again? Lets be realistic here.

No one is giving you jack sh!t for Bogans, Brewer, Korver combined. So you're not going to swindle any team for this SG "like Ellis". Get a grip with reality.


Okay dog....we get it...slow down...The Bulls were not going to get anyone in this weak draft with the low pick they had that would make an impact....So they are waiting it out...The CBA will affect everyone in the league...But the Bulls are in a good position since they have tradeable players and a future draft picks....

We all have to wait and see how this shakes out...Because this is not a normal upcoming season given that the lockout will indeed be a long one...

In other words...Chill the **** out...lol

[GOBB]

Okay dog....we get it...slow down...The Bulls were not going to get anyone in this weak draft with the low pick they had that would make an impact....So they are waiting it out...The CBA will affect everyone in the league...But the Bulls are in a good position since they have tradeable players and a future draft picks....

We all have to wait and see how this shakes out...Because this is not a normal upcoming season given that the lockout will indeed be a long one...

In other words...Chill the **** out...lol

This reply doesnt make any sense.

[PowerGlove]

GOBB has a point, they should have at least took a shot at an SG in the draft, it couldnt hurt. At the very least, Brooks could have been coupled with a pick and maybe another player for OJ Mayo or something.

[Go Getter]

I clearly do.



They could have and elected not too. Hence, why I asked are they stupid.



Bulls traded up to 23. Dont tell me they couldnt move up in this draft. They did. Lots of teams were wheeling and dealing. Especially Minnesota.



Its Marshon. He was the best SG available within reach for the Bulls to grab. I cant say Bulls should have got Klay Thompson because you would reply "He went too high. Bulls couldnt move that far up to get him"

The point you genius is the Bulls could have added a SG in this draft and didnt. Marshon is a guy who can step in right now and give you buckets. He's proved it in college. He did very well for himself in workouts, especially against SGs that went before him. He is a better offensive player than anything the Bulls have at the SG spot.



And Brooks dominated Klay Thompson and Alec Burks in workouts. What exactly is your point here? You have none. Kinda sucks. Would you like me to help you make a point? Let me know.



Uh huh.



Good luck with that happening. What SGs do you think the Bulls can realistically trade for? I'd love to laugh errrr hear.

The FA crop isnt that deep.



So the Bulls say Marshon Brooks has a selfish "tune" to him. And you say go after Jr Smith the immature, erratic, non defending SG. :roll:

And I dont know what I'm talkin about here. Jr Smith is the guy. Is Jr Smith an upgrade over Bogans? Thats stating the obvious. In fact if Keith Bogans was in the 2011 draft he would not go first round. Then again I'll withold such a commen because Chicago could end up taking him at the end of the first.

"See we got our SG! :bowdown: "

Good luck with Jr Smith.

I would have explored the option of adding a young SG in this draft. And I'm not the only one who thought this way. But hey some Bulls fans tend to play "defense" when it comes to their team attempting to reject anything that appears reasonable for fear it makes the front office look bad.
Didn't catch the draft so i didn't know it went quite like that.

Still, maybe, just MAYBE they have a plan.

If we don't acquire a SG by the trade deadline I will be inclined to agree with you. I'm going to give Gar and Pax the benefit of the doubt for a minute....there are a couple suitable SGs to be had still.

[Dengness9]

The topic is why did the Bulls pass up SGs, are they stupid?

It wasnt Bulls missed out on a future franchise caliber SG in Marshon Brooks. Everyone will pay for passing him up. Somehow in your mind (appears you are wasting that) my thread has a man crush on Marshon Brooks because he is the player listed when Bulls fans ask "Who could they have taken?"

Go figure.

I wonder how many people kicked themselves when they cheated off your test paper?



He can create his own offense and get buckets in various ways. Nit ne SG for the Bulls can say they have that ability. Not one.



He's been in the NBA for 7 years and somehow he has untapped potential. :oldlol:

Same thing Kwame Brown said until his untapped potential ran dry.
Same thing Darko is saying and he is nothing more than a career backup/starter by default

And now Jr Smith will magically untap this potential and be the player or close to the player we all thought he could be in Chicago. Why? Who knows, I guess Bulls winning more than 60 games and Thibs (defensive mastermind) will change it. He is what he is and most likely will always be.

But hey he's 25 and ages 27-29 he can be a much improved player. It just took damn near 9 to 10 NBA seasons to do it. The Nash of Sgs, blossoming late in his career. Is Jr Smith better than what the Bulls have? Yes, no disputing that. If Bulls somehow were to actually sign Jr Smith (he can go a number of places or stay in Denver who knows, Bulls have no edge) would I diss the move? No.

But my point is simple why put your eggs in 1 basket hoping for Jr Smith when you can explore options at your fingertips by aquiring a rookie scorer? You just abandon the search for a SG in the NBA draft because you are sold on Jr Smith coming to town. Or J-Rich coming to town for a discount? Thats stupid.

Bulls could have tried for Marshon Brooks and Jordan Hamilton. Would have been a very nice addition to the roster. Thats why I am critical of them not attempting to go after good talent that slipped in the draft at their fingertips.

But of course you being you? You'll miss the point and think I now have 2 mancrushes on Marshon Brooks and now Jordan Hamilton. :rolleyes:



Yo bozo, Bulls traded with Minnesota for thier 23rd pick and took a kid that wont come to America atleast for 3 years. Gave up 28 & 43 to do so. So dont tell me they had nothing to trade in a move up.



No one knows what the new CBA will look like. So I wont pretend to say this or that. Lets just stick with the current CBA? Are you with me? Bulls have no financial wiggle room financially so its all MLE. Jason Richardonson for his last contrac will take a MLE or go for more? Jr Smith will accept a MLE or go for more? Same with Marcus Thornton who had a production performance for the Queens. He may look to cash in as opposed to taking the MLE.

Aaron Afflalo is a RFA, which means Denver has the rights to match. Which means Bulls are less likely to make him an offer sheet because I dont see why Denver would not retain him. Sign and trade? Now you're going to part with assets you may not want too. Most namely Taj Gibson.

Reggie Williams? Thats like signing Ronnie Brewer as a free agent. If you think that solves the issue at SG? You're a bigger fool than I thought. You're back to platooning the SG spot with a Reggie Williams signings. Get a clue.

You were better off naming Jamal Crawford atleast. And again, is he taking less?

So the moral to the story you genius is whether these guys take less or not is a gamble. The draft came and you could atleast have added some insurance in case a FA signing doesnt fall your way. Thats what good franchises tend to do. They just dont expect the FA they want to come to them. But in your world? It'll happen that way. No chance for the Bulls not to add one of the guys (excluding Reggie friggin Williams) on your list.

If the CBA is about lessening salaries and the amount of years a team can gurantee? Good luck with a good samaritan free agent like Jason Richardson taking a cheap deal. Thats even if a MLE is around. Who knows, so lets not get into that. Lets stick with the current CBA because under the current one? Why would some of these guys take less money? Bulls not the champions.



:rolleyes:

Bulls could have traded for anyone and didnt want to part with guys like Taj Gibson and Asik. So yeah now they'll be willing too? And Courtney Lee? What has he proven since you're all about proven guys? That he is on pace to break Jim Jacksons total teams played for mark? 3 teams in 3 years, and according to you trading for him will be his 4th in 4yrs. Hilarious.



I will laugh at you like I am now regardless.



Bogans went 2nd rd out of Kentucky. He didnt go first round then as a young guy. :roll:

Never had the hype too either. Brooks was projected all up and down the first round. So was Hamilton.



I'll stick to schooling snot nose degenerates like you.

after reading through all that garbage....first thing that struck me was how the above hot mess post was the highlight of your saturday, no seriously. When you have 43,000 posts, you clearly like to hear yourself talk. But everybody already knew you were a loser, cuz man, you "schooled" me on an Internet bball forum.

Thanks also for the explanation of what will happen in the future since you apparently have all the answers. I have to remember to read your posts while also remembering you are cooler and smarter than everyone else.

Bulls will get a SG through FA or trade this summer or during next season(whenever that will be). All of your overdone blah blah explanations will be worthless like they already are.

It's funny how you judge the Bulls FO after the season in which they had a great deal of success. But hey, you are smarter than everyone. Gar Foreman wasn't the exec of the year anyway, but nonetheless the Bulls org is "stupid".

Ok, now you can go back to posting 500 more times tonight for your thrilling saturday night activity. Douchebag.

[themurph]

This reply doesnt make any sense.


Actually it does....The upcoming lockout already having an immense affect on the NBA...Why do you think the only trades that were made were for undesireables and 4th tier players? Teams were basically dumping salaries (see Stephen Jackson)...So the Bulls are going at it the best way...Staying patient....

As for the draft and your love affair with Brooks? That's where the "chill out" part comes in....

[Mrofir]

Shows how much you know about Ben Gordon, the Bulls, and basketball ... Ben GORDON is super good riddance. Don't ever combine his name with Jordan's again, thank you very much.

:D

nice post

[poido123]

LOL at the person who said that Ben Gordon should not have been let go by the Bulls :facepalm

The reason we have had so much success from the season past, was due to Deng having a career year. If we were keeping Gordon, Deng would be out the door...Further to that, Ben Gordon would of been a nice scoring punch off the bench, but he is an undersized guard, who was in no way apart of the long term future of the Bulls(Also too much money to pay for a 6th man)... Thibs would lose ALL his hair if he had Boozer AND Gordon in the starting lineup, what a defensive nightmare :eek:

Best thing is, Bulls will be able to get a JR smith for less than ben gordon is getting paid, and a slightly more rounded player too...Both streaky shooters...

[Darius]

Eric Gordon would be perfect on the Bulls.

[squitedesaibe]

Even if we had had the #1 pick, we still wouldn't have been able to address the SG issue. We need to sign or trade for an experienced one.

On your place I would try to solve this problem itself.
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[GOBB]

Actually it does....The upcoming lockout already having an immense affect on the NBA...Why do you think the only trades that were made were for undesireables and 4th tier players? Teams were basically dumping salaries (see Stephen Jackson)...So the Bulls are going at it the best way...Staying patient....

As for the draft and your love affair with Brooks? That's where the "chill out" part comes in....

Two times in a row your reply makes no sense. The lockout has what affect on what I'm saying? Nothing. Bulls started the draft night with the 28, 30, 43rd picks in the NBA draft. They ended the night with the 23rd pick (in a trade with Minnesota) and 30th pick. So what happened to picks 28 and 43 in the 2011 draft smart guy? Oh they were traded. So the point is when Marshon Brooks fell within reach why didnt the Bulls try and trade up to get him? When Jordan Hamilton fell within reach? Why didnt the Bulls trade up to get him? The lockout has zero to do with this. Bulls not having anything to trade to move up is bogus and proven wrong given they traded up in the draft.

You and the other idiot in this thread keep saying love affair with Marshon Brooks. I dont recall when I ever had an lov affair with an NBA prospect. What I do recall is me saying the Bulls need a SG. There was a SG as well as a SG/SF player to be had. Brooks and Hamilton. So why not target them especially when they were projected lottery and slid within reach?

Its real simple but some fans of teams think all emotionally like some females. Which is why your two replies made no sense. If Bulls made moves to aquire Marshon Brooks or Jordan Hamilton? You now have insurance in case the FA SG you want is unable to be signed for whatever reason.

[GOBB]

Best thing is, Bulls will be able to get a JR smith for less than ben gordon is getting paid, and a slightly more rounded player too...Both streaky shooters...

Bulls wont be the only team able to get Jr Smith.

Bulls were able to get Lebron James, Dwayne Wade, Amare Stoudemire, Chris Bosh, Dirk, Joe Johnson last offseason. They ended up with Carlos Boozer, Brewer, Korver, CJ Watson.

Maybe I'm reading the replies wrong but it just seems Jr Smith in Chicago is going to happen. I just want Bulls fans to realize you will not be the only team after him. You have no leading edge here.

[themurph]

Two times in a row your reply makes no sense. The lockout has what affect on what I'm saying? Nothing. Bulls started the draft night with the 28, 30, 43rd picks in the NBA draft. They ended the night with the 23rd pick (in a trade with Minnesota) and 30th pick. So what happened to picks 28 and 43 in the 2011 draft smart guy? Oh they were traded. So the point is when Marshon Brooks fell within reach why didnt the Bulls try and trade up to get him? When Jordan Hamilton fell within reach? Why didnt the Bulls trade up to get him? The lockout has zero to do with this. Bulls not having anything to trade to move up is bogus and proven wrong given they traded up in the draft.

You and the other idiot in this thread keep saying love affair with Marshon Brooks. I dont recall when I ever had an lov affair with an NBA prospect. What I do recall is me saying the Bulls need a SG. There was a SG as well as a SG/SF player to be had. Brooks and Hamilton. So why not target them especially when they were projected lottery and slid within reach?

Its real simple but some fans of teams think all emotionally like some females. Which is why your two replies made no sense. If Bulls made moves to aquire Marshon Brooks or Jordan Hamilton? You now have insurance in case the FA SG you want is unable to be signed for whatever reason.



Okay...Let's let's make this simple...

Q. How come the Bulls didn't draft a shooting guard in the draft?

A: Because, beyond the draft being the weakest in memory, the Bulls were less than enamored with the shooting guards that they worked out (namely Brooks...Google it...it's all there...)

Is that better?

[ReturnofJPR]

Goobber is just a sad pile of you know what. He lives to get into long debates where he does nothing but cut down the other poster. He lives to drag teenagers into long, drawn out arguments. And keep in mind, he has 900,000+ posts and is 48 years old...when will people stop taking his bait?

[dee-rose]

I wonder why. Could it be because "We're winning without him. Dont really need him actually. If it aint broke dont fix it. :banana: ".

You better hope the front office isnt thinking this way this offseason (if there is one).

I hope not. I think they're looking to FA instead. (J-rich, Jamal, JR Smith, VCmaybe, or a Rip buyout) I think it's a good thing they didn't look towards the draft and say "Hey, thats our guy". Or maybe they're looking to trade? We'll see. Either way, I really doubt them standing pat.

[GOBB]

Goobber is just a sad pile of you know what. He lives to get into long debates where he does nothing but cut down the other poster. He lives to drag teenagers into long, drawn out arguments. And keep in mind, he has 900,000+ posts and is 48 years old...when will people stop taking his bait?

Says the clown who didnt want the Bulls to upgrade the SG position. Remember they are fine there. If it aint broke dont fix it. :facepalm

[B-Easy8]

They will probably target a FA. There was no reason for them to draft one. They are a contender, they don't want a rookie SG as their starter.

Who could have they got?

Klay Thompson was off the board early as was Burks but he can't shoot so he wouldn't have helped them. Marshon Brooks can score but can't play d and no one else would have been an upgrade.

I don't think drafting one of those guys would have helped. Try to make a trade or sign a FA.

[G-train]

GOBBs right. It's nonsensical that they didn't take Brooks. To suggest reasons why they didn't is clutching at straws.

[G-train]

CBA is an unknown. Rookie SG was worth the gamble to at least provide another option. Landry Fields says hi too.

[Go Getter]

The Bull's roster is pretty full. If we land J-Rich, Rip, or JR we wouldn't need a rookie SG....so until they field a team again the jury is out on whether it was a good decision or not.