If you bash Christians - you're progressive, hip. Bash Jews, Muslims? Racist. Yes?

[FourthTenor]

Lil somethin I've noticed:

The same people on this board who love to rip into everything about christianity -

typically the younger posters with virtually no self-identity and even less swag, who desperately seek refuge and acceptance in the progressive "counter culture", who will spout any hyper-liberal drivel that they think makes them appear sophisticated and progressive, the posters whose inability to articulate independent thought has reduced them to simply choosing one team or the other and waiving its flag without understanding why -

always seem to be the same ones who are ready to throw a fit and whip the "bigotry" card off their hip like a six-shooter if you dare say anything offensive about any other religions. They'll even fire off "racist" labels in a discussion about religion, even though the two are completely unrelated (thats clearly not gonna stop their crusade of "equality for all, with an emphasis on extra equality for some.")

Person A: "Christians are ignorant hypocrites who just want an excuse to control you and and take advantage of your stupid blind faith, they believe fairytales and dont live the way they tell everyone else to."
Hipster: "Amen to that - No pun intended! Ahahahaha!

Person A: "And Jews are money-grubbing, conniving manipulators whose only agenda is to keep Jews on top..."
Hipster: "WTF?? Where did you come from, Mississippi??? What an ignorant bigot you are, get away from me.

Person A: And those stupid terrorist, towel-head muslims, they oughtta GTFO because that stuff they believe in is pure nonsense.
Hipster: Excuse me, have you ever heard of freedom of religion? It's in the constitution you arrogant redneck racist bigot. Go add more George Bush bumper stickers to your pickup you fukcing dumb hick. How dare you generalize muslims like that, your intolerance is what's wrong with this country!!!



Why is it that ripping Christians is accepted as fun, forgivable, and leisurely...

But ripping Jews or Muslims is considered hostile, racist, hateful, disrespectful, and inexcusable?


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[Black Joker]

ripping on religions in general is just stupid

[rezznor]

I don't bash Christians. I bash anyone who tries to shove their beliefs in my face and down my throat. Doesn't matter to me what religion they are or beliefs they hold, that's their choice and I have no problem with it. Just don't act all holier than thou and come off like your way is the only right way.

[mcrd101]

the example you gave for critiquing Christians is more applicable to many if not all religions to an extent. However, the Jewish and Muslim ones were stereotypes that have little to do with Judaism or Islam, or if they do, they're distorted views of them.

[Penny37]

I don't bash Christians. I bash anyone who tries to shove their beliefs in my face and down my throat. Doesn't matter to me what religion they are or beliefs they hold, that's their choice and I have no problem with it. Just don't act all holier than thou and come off like your way is the only right way.
Agreed.
Same can be said for atheism, though. We don't want that shoved down our throats, either.

[ace23]

Had not realized this double standard until now. Good catch.

[Is He Ill]

I don't bash Christians. I bash anyone who tries to shove their beliefs in my face and down my throat. Doesn't matter to me what religion they are or beliefs they hold, that's their choice and I have no problem with it. Just don't act all holier than thou and come off like your way is the only right way.

This right here. Pretty much sums up my stance.

[brownmamba00]

Yea you mofos bashing us after 9/11 isn't enough apparently:rolleyes:

[FourthTenor]

I don't bash Christians. I bash anyone who tries to shove their beliefs in my face and down my throat. Doesn't matter to me what religion they are or beliefs they hold, that's their choice and I have no problem with it. Just don't act all holier than thou and come off like your way is the only right way.


That's well enough but there's been a bunch of posts about religion lately, particularly christianity, and a bunch of the same cornball posters who used to kill people for saying anything un-PC about minority religions are the same ones who are tripping over each other to be the loudest and proudest christian basher.


its just that funny little mindset of "its ok to neglect or taunt anything thats in the majority, the establishment, etc. just so long as we never, ever let that happen to the little guy."

[Banksh]

because christians go around annoyingly and retardly knocking on doors trying to convert random people. Jews never beg for converts and though muslims ask for money if you live near a mosque and like converts they dont try to annoyingly force their religion upon you like those retarded dork christians who knock on your door do.

[rezznor]

Agreed.
Same can be said for atheism, though. We don't want that shoved down our throats, either.


yup, this goes for self righteous atheists as well, but in my personal experience, it's the lunatic Christians that do this the most. Now worldwide we all have heard stories about the crazy fundamentalist Muslim like the Taliban are, but they don't really affect me here in the States.

Here, I gotta deal with the right wing Christian fanatics that want to impose their values on me.

[Is He Ill]

That's well enough but there's been a bunch of posts about religion lately, particularly christianity, and a bunch of the same cornball posters who used to kill people for saying anything un-PC about minority religions are the same ones who are tripping over each other to be the loudest and proudest christian basher.


its just that funny little mindset of "its ok to neglect or taunt anything thats in the majority, the establishment, etc. just so long as we never, ever let that happen to the little guy."

Because there aren't any idiotic Muslims or Jews on this website making threads to spew their radical views and look down upon people that don't think along the same lines as them, such as Bladers does. Bladers view of the world doesn't represent other Christian's views. If a self proclaimed Muslim or Jew came out making threads similar to his, I'm pretty sure people would be all over his a** as well.

[rezznor]

That's well enough but there's been a bunch of posts about religion lately, particularly christianity, and a bunch of the same cornball posters who used to kill people for saying anything un-PC about minority religions are the same ones who are tripping over each other to be the loudest and proudest christian basher.


its just that funny little mindset of "its ok to neglect or taunt anything thats in the majority, the establishment, etc. just so long as we never, ever let that happen to the little guy."


most of that sentiment is just backlash towards trolls like Bladers. i've posted the whole Jesus raptor bit too but it's just out of annoyance, not any true dislike for Christians. (My wife is Catholic and we were married in a church)

[Jailblazers7]

Calling Jews greedy and Muslims terrorists is different than saying the Christian version of God doesn't exist.

[TylerOO]

Great another religion thread.

[Is He Ill]

Calling Jews greedy and Muslims terrorists is different than saying the Christian version of God doesn't exist.

Yeah, those were ridiculous examples that involved stereotyping.

[FourthTenor]

Because there aren't any idiotic Muslims or Jews on this website making threads to spew their radical views and look down upon people that don't think along the same lines as them, such as Bladers does. Bladers view of the world doesn't represent other Christian's views. If a self proclaimed Muslim or Jew came out making threads similar to his, I'm pretty sure people would be all over his a** as well.


No but you know full well that there are many people here who think it's the backwards, hypocrite evangelists who are keeping this country from progressing the way it should and arent afraid to say how detrimental they are to the US.

But if you were to make the exact same type of statement, instead saying "its these stupid muslims that cause all our problems with terrorism" they take it upon themselves to translate that as "anyone of middle eastern origin" and immediately label you a racist and redneck.

it's an obvious double standard, they think its ok to insult someone if they're going to have the comfort of still being in the majority, but if you insult someone who may feel excluded... well that's a crime against humanity.


Just one of those things. The people who claim to be for equality and tolerance are really only for equality and tolerance on their terms - which usually is just a shift in favor from the majority to the minority, rather than truly applied equality to both.

[FourthTenor]

Yeah, those were ridiculous examples that involved stereotyping.


Actually no, because you never hear the word "sheep" and "redneck" etc. applied to Jews as you do with Christians. Christian intelligence is often stereotyped whereas Jewish intelligence and motivation for being faithful is not.

[kentatm]

nice troll thread Starface.

once again you make broad, sweeping generalizations to support a flimsy argument based off of the same selective reasoning you accuse the so called ignorant masses of following.

[FourthTenor]

nice troll thread Starface.

once again you make broad, sweeping generalizations to support a flimsy argument based off of the same selective reasoning you accuse the so called ignorant masses of following.



If the post count under our usernames tallied only intelligent, substantive, thoughtful, articulate posts concerning topics of depth, yours would be 15,159 posts fewer.

[ace23]

If the post count under our usernames tallied only intelligent, substantive, thoughtful, articulate posts concerning topics of depth, yours would be 15,159 posts fewer.
:oldlol:

[DeronMillsap]

My family is non-Christian and of a different faith but we've had this Catholic nun who's like grandmother to us since I was a kid. She never talks about religion with us, only about our life and how we're doing. And she has never asked us to attend her Church either. I believe most Christians are like her and not like Pat Roberts or any Evangelist we see on TV.

Because of her I don't get annoyed by the fundamentalists or try to bash Christianity either.

[Nanners]

Yeah you stupid liberals are so hypocritical. Always generalizing christians, always calling someone a racist when they point out that mexicans are lazy or jews are greedy or muslims are all terrorists .... stupid sheep liberals


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[Is He Ill]

No but you know full well that there are many people here who think it's the backwards, hypocrite evangelists who are keeping this country from progressing the way it should and arent afraid to say how detrimental they are to the US.

But if you were to make the exact same type of statement, instead saying "its these stupid muslims that cause all our problems with terrorism" they take it upon themselves to translate that as "anyone of middle eastern origin" and immediately label you a racist and redneck.

it's an obvious double standard, they think its ok to insult someone if they're going to have the comfort of still being in the majority, but if you insult someone who may feel excluded... well that's a crime against humanity.


Just one of those things. The people who claim to be for equality and tolerance are really only for equality and tolerance on their terms - which usually is just a shift in favor from the majority to the minority, rather than truly applied equality to both.

I know there are people like that, there is no denying that fact, but to say that Muslims are stupid and cause terrorism is just as dumb as calling someone a redneck, sheep, or hipster. There is no reason to refer to name calling when it comes to Christians, Jews, Buddhists, Muslims, etc. You seem to be infatuated with placing people who share similar beliefs, backgrounds, or views into groups instead of acknowledging the individual. Be specific of who is stupid and causes terrorism. If you were a Muslim, how would it feel to have the word lingering over your head? I have many Muslim friends, as well as Christian, and none of them cause terrorism so I don't know why you choose to word it that way. If you worded it differently, there would be no issue.

[-playmaker-]

he is right though, there is a double standard

good thread...:applause:

[FourthTenor]

Yeah you stupid liberals are so hypocritical. Always generalizing christians, always calling someone a racist when they point out that mexicans are lazy or jews are greedy or muslims are all terrorists .... stupid sheep liberals


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Your constant bitterness and fixated resentment towards me stem from inadequacy and self-loathing. Which in and of itself is embarrassing, but the fact that its so profound you cant even pretend to hide it is what makes the mariana trench look like a puddle compared to the depths of your swaglessness.


You could walk through a row of 10 swag-detectors and not set off so much as a peep.

[kentatm]

If the post count under our usernames tallied only intelligent, substantive, thoughtful, articulate posts concerning topics of depth, yours would be 15,159 posts fewer.


:oldlol:


typical.

you know you are ultimately full of shit so you toss off semi witty clips to throw people off.

how's that movie career coming?

[tpols]

Had not realized this double standard until now. Good catch.
I dont really see it.

In his first hypothetical, he uses 'Christians are just trying to control you.. God is bullshit'.. but that isn't something that is specific to only Christians. That can apply to Jews, Muslims, or Christians. That is a generic religious statement. The only difference is that on this board we dont have a resident jewish troll or a resident muslim troll.. we have Bladers, resident Christian troll. So naturally, that is what is always being trashed. If Bladers was a muslim and kept quoting the Quaran and saying we were all fools for not believing in Islam, we would be having the same arguments.

And then for all of the jewish and muslim hypotheticals, the OP uses literal racist stereotypes with no mentions of religion. Money grubbing Jews? Terrorist Muslims? Thats on a whole other level from what you wrote about with the Christians.. That would be like callling Christians redneck retards or something[or any other offensive stereotype regarding them].

[Legend of Josh]

nice troll thread Starface.

once again you make broad, sweeping generalizations to support a flimsy argument based off of the same selective reasoning you accuse the so called ignorant masses of following.

I don't see this thread as starface trolling. He's actually right about the double-standard thing. On this board in particular, Christians by far get the worst e-bashings.

[LJJ]

I don't see this thread as starface trolling. He's actually right about the double-standard thing. On this board in particular, Christians by far get the worst e-bashings.

How many Jews/Muslims create troll threads here on a day to day basis?

Let's face it, this is mostly a US forum, and in the US 85% of the population is Christian. That's the reason why the discussion on here (and probably in the US) gravitates more towards Christians than it does towards another religious movement.

[-playmaker-]

I dont really see it.

In his first hypothetical, he uses 'Christians are just trying to control you.. God is bullshit'.. but that isn't something that is specific to only Christians. That can apply to Jews, Muslims, or Christians. That is a generic religious statement. The only difference is that on this board we dont have a resident jewish troll or a resident muslim troll.. we have Bladers, resident Christian troll. So naturally, that is what is always being trashed. If Bladers was a muslim and kept quoting the Quaran and saying we were all fools for not believing in Islam, we would be having the same arguments.

And then for all of the jewish and muslim hypotheticals, the OP uses literal racist stereotypes with no mentions of religion. Money grubbing Jews? Terrorist Muslims? Thats on a whole other level from what you wrote about with the Christians.. That would be like callling Christians redneck retards or something[or any other offensive stereotype regarding them].
if there was a resident muslim in here talking Alah I bet no one would give him shit...

if there was a jewish dude in here talking hanukkah or something up I KNOW no one would be bashing him...

[Nanners]

Your constant bitterness and fixated resentment towards me stem from inadequacy and self-loathing. Which in and of itself is embarrassing, but the fact that its so profound you cant even pretend to hide it is what makes the mariana trench look like a puddle compared to the depths of your swaglessness.


You could walk through a row of 10 swag-detectors and not set off so much as a peep.


You are totally right, I am really just jealous of you and your "swag" and I resent you for it.

I wish that I could be a closet homo, unemployed "comedian/actor", and get my rent payed for by daddy. Maybe I should have dropped out of school like you did, then I could have the life I really wanted, instead I am just stuck being jealous of how awesome your existence is.

[tpols]

I don't see this thread as starface trolling. He's actually right about the double-standard thing. On this board in particular, Christians by far get the worst e-bashings.
Thats because every religious thread that pops up is about Christianity.. I have NEVER seen a thread on this site where the Torah or Quaran were quoted and talked about. Everyone, trolls and regular posters alike, always talks about the Bible. And since a lot of people on here dont believe in God or are unsure about the whole thing, they end up debating against his existence. If we had muslim posters who tried to spread their faith on us it would be the same way.

And know what I think this stems from? Jews and Muslims aren't out here to convert people to their religion. They actually somewhat resent outsiders.. Christians, on the other hand, were told by their savior Jesus Christ, to spread Christianity as far as they could.. which is why you see 100 threads where someone like Bladers tries to convert and battle against 'atheists' and 0 where any other poster of any other faith ever tries to force their religion upon you.

[tpols]

if there was a resident muslim in here talking Alah I bet no one would give him shit...

if there was a jewish dude in here talking hanukkah or something up I KNOW no one would be bashing him...
What? If there was a muslim here or a jew here that told us we were all idiots for not beliving in the Torah or the Quaran I can guarantee you they would be met with opposition. These christian threads are almost always started by trolls trying to convert people and rally the masses. If a muslim did the same thing with his religion it would have the same result.

[-playmaker-]

Thats because every religious thread that pops up is about Christianity.. I have NEVER seen a thread on this site where the Torah or Quaran were quoted and talked about. Everyone, trolls and regular posters alike, always talks about the Bible. And since a lot of people on here dont believe in God or are unsure about the whole thing, they end up debating against his existence. If we had muslim posters who tried to spread their faith on us it would be the same way.

And know what I think this stems from? Jews and Muslims aren't out here to convert people to their religion. They actually somewhat resent outsiders.. Christians, on the other hand, were told by their savior Jesus Christ, to spread Christianity as far as they could.. which is why you see 100 threads where someone like Bladers tries to convert and battle against 'atheists' and 0 where any other poster of any other faith ever tries to force their religion upon you.
I don't believe that at all...

[-playmaker-]

What? If there was a muslim here or a jew here that told us we were all idiots for not beliving in the Torah or the Quaran I can guarantee you they would be met with opposition. These christian threads are almost always started by trolls trying to convert people and rally the masses. If a muslim did the same thing with his religion it would have the same result.
if someone was trolling jews they would get f*ckin banned...


Cartman was a supposed muslim and he used to talk about it a lot...I don't remember the Quaran ever being bashed

[-playmaker-]

Starface is right...people are scared to bash the jewish and muslims because they are scared of looking like bigots...

[nightprowler10]

Lil somethin I've noticed:

The same people on this board who love to rip into everything about christianity -

typically the younger posters with virtually no self-identity and even less swag, who desperately seek refuge and acceptance in the progressive "counter culture", who will spout any hyper-liberal drivel that they think makes them appear sophisticated and progressive, the posters whose inability to articulate independent thought has reduced them to simply choosing one team or the other and waiving its flag without understanding why -

always seem to be the same ones who are ready to throw a fit and whip the "bigotry" card off their hip like a six-shooter if you dare say anything offensive about any other religions. They'll even fire off "racist" labels in a discussion about religion, even though the two are completely unrelated (thats clearly not gonna stop their crusade of "equality for all, with an emphasis on extra equality for some.")

Person A: "Christians are ignorant hypocrites who just want an excuse to control you and and take advantage of your stupid blind faith, they believe fairytales and dont live the way they tell everyone else to."
Hipster: "Amen to that - No pun intended! Ahahahaha!

Person A: "And Jews are money-grubbing, conniving manipulators whose only agenda is to keep Jews on top..."
Hipster: "WTF?? Where did you come from, Mississippi??? What an ignorant bigot you are, get away from me.

Person A: And those stupid terrorist, towel-head muslims, they oughtta GTFO because that stuff they believe in is pure nonsense.
Hipster: Excuse me, have you ever heard of freedom of religion? It's in the constitution you arrogant redneck racist bigot. Go add more George Bush bumper stickers to your pickup you fukcing dumb hick. How dare you generalize muslims like that, your intolerance is what's wrong with this country!!!



Why is it that ripping Christians is accepted as fun, forgivable, and leisurely...

But ripping Jews or Muslims is considered hostile, racist, hateful, disrespectful, and inexcusable?


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You really don't see the difference between those comments do you? I mean it'd be one thing if you called Muslims hypocrites as well for promoting peace but not coming down hard on the violent factions in their respective countries, as I've seen many people make that point without being called racists, but what you used as an example is really quite racist. Same with the example of Jews.

And I've never seen anyone going around consistently calling Christians a bunch of rednecks without being called up on it, though you're right and I'm sure it does happen more often than it should. At least in comparison to the Muslims, Christians have a much better image in the World right now and people don't generally discriminate against them as they would against a Muslim post-9/11, due to which the "hipster" is much more likely to defend Muslims. And Jews, well there's just quite a bit of guilt associated with making fun of Jews IMO.

Another often overlooked factor is the fact that we live in a predominantly Christian country, so it's considered more acceptable to go against the grain. But that's the norm in most countries with a sizeable media. In Pakistan for example, every other TV show rips on the mullahs and the so-called scholars of Islam on a daily basis. Bollywood movies almost never portray overly religious Hindus in a positive light. It's just how the world works.

[LJJ]

On here, I probably discuss and/or make fun of Christianity more. Because there are more Christians on here discussing than there are Jews or Muslims.

In real life, I discuss and/or make fun of the Islam more. Because I have more friends who are Muslim than friends who are Christian.


See. Simple.

[tpols]

if someone was trolling jews they would get f*ckin banned...

You have it backwards.. I'm saying if a jew was trolling us. Say Bladers was Jewish and all of his troll threads were of a Jewish variety instead of a Chrisitan one.. say he was calling us idiots and saying we were stupid for not believing in Judiasm.. You're saying people would sit here and just take it? I'm not talking about people who just talk about Judiasm or Islam.. I'm talking about trolls who try to rally people up with religious talk~they are ALWAYS Christians. I have never seen a Muslim or Jew on this site troll people into believing in their religion. Never. And as I stated before, the reason for it is Christians are part of a religion where they are encouraged to spread their faith onto non-believers.. it is what Jesus taught. Jews and Muslims dont follow that same principle to the same extent.

[-playmaker-]

On here, I probably discuss and/or make fun of Christianity more. Because there are more Christians on here discussing than there are Jews or Muslims.

In real life, I discuss and/or make fun of the Islam more. Because I have more friends who are Muslim than friends who are Christian.


See. Simple.
what about Islam do you clown on?

[Colin Cowherd]

Fourth Tenor is a booger eater. Meatball probably lives in his mom's basement in middle america, watches pro wrestling, and makes out with his forearm.

[-playmaker-]

it's not just "here" at ISH...it is the world

it is Bill Maher and those like him..."hip America"


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Maher couldn't make a movie that focused on Jews or Muslims...he would be crucified like Christ if he did

[Bill O'Reilly]

It's no doubt the truth, the left wing loons are the most hateful bigoted group of all yet are quick to tear up about hatefulness and bigotry if it doesn't match their agenda. Lets be honest though, you'd be angry too if the most masculine person on your side of the political spectrum looked like this


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[nightprowler10]

what about Islam do you clown on?
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[FourthTenor]

Thats because every religious thread that pops up is about Christianity.. I have NEVER seen a thread on this site where the Torah or Quaran were quoted and talked about. Everyone, trolls and regular posters alike, always talks about the Bible. And since a lot of people on here dont believe in God or are unsure about the whole thing, they end up debating against his existence. If we had muslim posters who tried to spread their faith on us it would be the same way.


It doesn't have to be threads dedicated to jewish or muslim doctrine.

Political and social threads often involve jews and muslims, for instance the thread about the mosque at ground zero, or threads about our aid to israel - anyone who takes derisive aim at the religion of the groups in these discussions is labeled as a neocon redneck bigot.

However, these same people post satirical maps of the US that label the northwest and northeast as "united states of liberty and education" and everything in between as "jesusland"

You know perfectly well that if you rip muslims or jews, the general board population and general "youth/liberal" population of the US will label you a redneck bigot, and if you rip christians you'll be seen as intellectually progressive and independent.

[nightprowler10]

it's not just "here" at ISH...it is the world

it is Bill Maher and those like him..."hip America"


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Maher couldn't make a movie that focused on Jews or Muslims...he would be crucified like Christ if he did
Haven't seen it, but didn't he rip on like, every religion in that?

[Is He Ill]

Haven't seen it, but didn't he rip on like, every religion in that?

Yes, he did.

[-playmaker-]

Haven't seen it, but didn't he rip on like, every religion in that?
that movie focuses on Christians and Catholics

[Colin Cowherd]

http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/5106/dscn1323n.jpg

God, she is so hot.

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[-playmaker-]

Yes, he did.
what part?

when does he rip on the jewish?

[FourthTenor]

You really don't see the difference between those comments do you? I mean it'd be one thing if you called Muslims hypocrites as well for promoting peace but not coming down hard on the violent factions in their respective countries, as I've seen many people make that point without being called racists, but what you used as an example is really quite racist. Same with the example of Jews.

Once again:




You never hear the word "sheep" and "redneck" etc. applied to Jews as you do with Christians. Christian intelligence is often stereotyped whereas Jewish intelligence and motivation for being faithful is not.

Also, blanketing all Muslims draws quick and harsh ire, while blanketing Christianity is frequently pardoned by the same people.

[LJJ]

what about Islam do you clown on?

Mostly alcohol/pork/premarital sex/ramadan/terrorism jokes. :cheers: Whatever the topic of the moment is.

[kentatm]

it's not just "here" at ISH...it is the world

it is Bill Maher and those like him..."hip America"


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Maher couldn't make a movie that focused on Jews or Muslims...he would be crucified like Christ if he did


:facepalm

did you even watch the movie?

he rips all religions in that flick.

[rezznor]

if someone was trolling jews they would get f*ckin banned...


Cartman was a supposed muslim and he used to talk about it a lot...I don't remember the Quaran ever being bashed
you are wrong, cartman got bashed alot for his Allah rants. quit playing the victim card

[-playmaker-]

Maher does clown on muslims actually...this is true

I don't remember anything about Judaism though

[kentatm]

I don't see this thread as starface trolling. He's actually right about the double-standard thing. On this board in particular, Christians by far get the worst e-bashings.


no, this is a pure troll thread.

he is using half truths and false equivalency to push his agenda.

[-playmaker-]

you are wrong, cartman got bashed alot for his Allah rants. quit playing the victim card
I'm not f*ckin Christian...no victim here

I don't think Starface is either...




there IS a double standard to some degree...people should just admitt it

[Nanners]

Maher does clown on muslims actually...this is true

I don't remember anything about Judaism though

Speaking of Judiasm, how many times have you been banned for getting drunk and spouting racist shit all over ISH about jews? Twice? Three times?

[-playmaker-]

Speaking of Judiasm, how many times have you been banned for getting drunk and spouting racist shit all over ISH about jews? Twice? Three times?
EXACTLY

[Is He Ill]

Maher does clown on muslims actually...this is true

I don't remember anything about Judaism though

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znth9H-0-8g

Part one.

The film isn't just mocking Christianity, it mocks Religion as a whole, including Islam, Judaism, Mormons, etc.

[FourthTenor]

you are wrong, cartman got bashed alot for his Allah rants. quit playing the victim card

HE got bashed, the religion didnt.

He got bashed with things like "for a muslim you sure look like you eat a lot of pork" or "where is your prayer rug??" etc.

Insults that were aimed at his association with the religion, rather than aimed at the merits of the religion itself.


If I were to make a thread about how dumb and full of baloney the Christian religion is, and all the good reasons for loathing hardcore christians, it would be well received and contributed to.

If I made the exact same thread about judaism or islam, it would be hissed at and considered hateful.


THe simple fact is the mentality is "dont pick on the little guy. pick on the big guy." That is the paradigm shift. It obviously used to be the opposite in this country. Picking on minorities was accepted and over looked. Which is equally undesirable, but the fact is that people pushed so hard in the opposite direction that the pendulum is simply on the other side, rather than the middle.

It's like running from Scilla straight to Charybdis. For some reason, the left seems to think its a justifiable change. It's a curious mentality.

[-playmaker-]

okay...Maher does touch on that I guess


the movie is still like 95% focused on the Bible though

[nightprowler10]

Once again:
And once again, do you not see the difference between calling someone a redneck and calling someone a terrorist? Both are wrong and inherently stereotypes, but surely you see one is much worse than the other?

And no response to my last paragraph?

[Jailblazers7]

Starface is right...people are scared to bash the jewish and muslims because they are scared of looking like bigots...

People are scared to bash them as a people because that would actually make them bigots. They aren't afraid to bash the religion. It's also less common for Americans (the majority of the board) to be acquainted with Islam or Judaism than Christianity which is why the subject isn't discussed often. Christianity bears the brunt of the criticism on here because it has been such a huge part in people'ms upbringings and Amercian culture.

[FourthTenor]

And once again, do you not see the difference between calling someone a redneck and calling someone a terrorist? Both are wrong and inherently stereotypes, but surely you see one is much worse than the other?

lolwut?

one implies that someone is ignorant and low-class, the other implies someone is malicious and destructive. they are both straight up derogatory labels.

how is one worse than the other? simply because one group is likely to react more sensitively to it than the other? you think that affects the level of malice that each is used with?

[-playmaker-]

People are scared to bash them as a people because that would actually make them bigots. They aren't afraid to bash the religion. It's also less common for Americans (the majority of the board) to be acquainted with Islam or Judaism than Christianity which is why the subject isn't discussed often. Christianity bears the brunt of the criticism on here because it has been such a huge part in people'ms upbringings and Amercian culture.
people aren't scared to talk about Christians "as people"...


look, it doesn't matter why the double standard exists...maybe you are right here...but a doub;e standard DOES exist

[Is He Ill]

lolwut?

one implies that someone is ignorant and low-class, the other implies someone is malicious and destructive. they are both straight up derogatory labels.

how is one worse than the other? simply because one group is likely to react more sensitively to it than the other? you think that affects the level of malice that each is used with?

So why do you choose to use derogatory terms? As you said, terrorist implies that somebody is malicious, therefore evil and destructive to society. Redneck, however, does not. I do agree that both are derogatory terms but inaccurately labeling a group of individuals terrorists is much more dangerous than calling somebody a redneck. Hell, some nice country folks call themselves rednecks by choice, but nobody should have to endure name calling. Although i's a little more light hearted and doesn't imply destruction, I agree that neither should be acceptable. Why do you choose to perpetuate such a dangerous stereotype?

[Jailblazers7]

people aren't scared to talk about Christians "as people"...


look, it doesn't matter why the double standard exists...maybe you are right here...but a doub;e standard DOES exist

The difference is that Christianity doesn't have a single stereotyped groups identified with it like Muslims and Jews. At least that's how I see it. There is a double standard because of Christianity's importance in America and it's very understandable to me why it is attacked (and defended) more than any other.

[tpols]

If I were to make a thread about how dumb and full of baloney the Christian religion is, and all the good reasons for loathing hardcore christians, it would be well received and contributed to.

If I made the exact same thread about judaism or islam, it would be hissed at and considered hateful.
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There are huge differences between what you're talking about with each of the religions though. For Judiasm, you focus on greed, and other negative money grubbing stereotypes. For Islam, you focus on terrorism. Those are two things that are COMPLETELY unrelated to their religion. The Christian example you provided was SOLELY about the religion.. it was about debating bible verses and debating the exitence of God~all huge compoenets of Christianity itself. With the Jews and Muslims you didn't talk about their religion at all.. just the people that practice it.

If you were to make a thread where you dissected verses in the Quaran and somehow proved that Islam was an outdated and incorrect religion like many have done on this site with Christianity, no one would be calling you a racist. And of course, if you call them all terrorists they would.

[-playmaker-]

The difference is that Christianity doesn't have a single stereotyped groups identified with it like Muslims and Jews. At least that's how I see it. There is a double standard because of Christianity's importance in America and it's very understandable to me why it is attacked (and defended) more than any other.
they are stereotyped as dumb southern rednecks...

I am not disagreeing with the "imporantance" part though...

[rezznor]

HE got bashed, the religion didnt.

He got bashed with things like "for a muslim you sure look like you eat a lot of pork" or "where is your prayer rug??" etc.

Insults that were aimed at his association with the religion, rather than aimed at the merits of the religion itself.


If I were to make a thread about how dumb and full of baloney the Christian religion is, and all the good reasons for loathing hardcore christians, it would be well received and contributed to.

If I made the exact same thread about judaism or islam, it would be hissed at and considered hateful.


THe simple fact is the mentality is "dont pick on the little guy. pick on the big guy." That is the paradigm shift. It obviously used to be the opposite in this country. Picking on minorities was accepted and over looked. Which is equally undesirable, but the fact is that people pushed so hard in the opposite direction that the pendulum is simply on the other side, rather than the middle.

It's like running from Scilla straight to Charybdis. For some reason, the left seems to think its a justifiable change. It's a curious mentality.

the religion got bashed. i don't recall everything but Muhammad was bashed, Cartman got bashed, and the religion got bashed.


edit: And if it wasn't in the Cartman thread it was till on ISH. I know for certain that Islam has been bashed on ISH several times. Not as much as Christianity, but Muslims aren't creating Islam threads every day on here.

[tpols]

lolwut?

one implies that someone is ignorant and low-class, the other implies someone is malicious and destructive. they are both straight up derogatory labels.

how is one worse than the other? simply because one group is likely to react more sensitively to it than the other? you think that affects the level of malice that each is used with?
If you call someone a terrorist, you are calling them a mass murderer. That is what terrorists do.. they kill people or destroy things to scare populations of people. That is on a whole other level from calling someone a redneck. If someone accused you of being a vile murderer or just stupid which would you feel more offended by?

[rezznor]

I'm not f*ckin Christian...no victim here

I don't think Starface is either...




there IS a double standard to some degree...people should just admitt it

well I stand corrected. My bad.

I still disagree with you though. Christianity is bashed more here but I have seen Muslims bashed as well. I have seen plenty of Jew rants but those are more focused on Israel and the Palestine conflict. Haven't seen anything against Buddhists though (but really, who could hate a Buddhist? :oldlol:)

[FourthTenor]

There are huge differences between what you're talking about with each of the religions though. For Judiasm, you focus on greed, and other negative money grubbing stereotypes. For Islam, you focus on terrorism. Those are two things that are COMPLETELY unrelated to their religion. The Christian example you provided was SOLELY about the religion.. it was about debating bible verses and debating the exitence of God~all huge compoenets of Christianity itself. With the Jews and Muslims you didn't talk about their religion at all.. just the people that practice it.




they are stereotyped as dumb southern rednecks...



bingo.

people imply that christians are dumb, easily-influenced, hypocritical, sheep-like. and that's generally excused.

when people imply that muslims are destructive, jihad-waging terrorists, thats considered a hateful stereotype.


primetime is right. the argument about whether a double-standard is wrong or not is one thing, but most people in this thread are just flatly denying a double-standard exists. because they know in their heart that the double-standard is acceptable to them, but they're intimidated by the idea of having to justify it with words and arguments. so, like so many people do in this country when it comes to difficult tasks and choices, people are just simply deluding themselves to believe they dont exist. close your eyes and ignore the issue, and that way even if it doesnt go away you wont have to face it head on. the easy, convenient route.

[Is He Ill]

bingo.

people imply that christians are dumb, easily-influenced, hypocritical, sheep-like. and that's generally excused.

when people imply that muslims are destructive, jihad-waging terrorists, thats considered a hateful stereotype.


primetime is right. the argument about whether a double-standard is wrong or not is one thing, but most people in this thread are just flatly denying a double-standard exists. because they know in their heart that the double-standard is acceptable to them, but they're intimidated by the idea of having to justify it with words and arguments. so, like so many people do in this country when it comes to difficult tasks and choices, people are just simply deluding themselves to believe they dont exist. close your eyes and ignore the issue, and that way even if it doesnt go away you wont have to face it head on. the easy, convenient route.

Honestly, I for one have never heard somebody call Christians in general, rednecks. I have however heard people refer to those whom call Muslims terrorists as rednecks. And the term sheep is often used against religious people in general, not just Christians.

[tpols]

people imply that christians are dumb, easily-influenced, hypocritical, sheep-like. and that's generally excused.
They are implied as this because of their religious beliefs solely.. People think Christians are naive for believing so strictly in all of the things they believe in. It purely centers around their religion. If you were to say Jews or Muslims are naive for believing in their books I dont think people would see a huge problem with that just like how they dont with Christianity because it would actually be about the religion itself and not outside stereotypes.


when people imply that muslims are destructive, jihad-waging terrorists, thats considered a hateful stereotype.

And here, your stereotype of muslims has NOTHING to do with religion. Your stereotypes of muslims here dont focus on what they believe in with regards to the Quaran. All it is about is how a few radical political and religious groups that have commited acts of terrorism. It isn't even talking about the religion.. just negative stereotypes about what the people have done outside of it.

Again, things like Jews being greedy have nothing to do with what they believe in with regards to their religion. It is an outside stereotype.

[FourthTenor]

They are implied as this because of their religious beliefs solely.. People think Christians are naive for believing so strictly in all of the things they believe in. It purely centers around their religion. If you were to say Jews or Muslims are naive for believing in their books I dont think people would see a huge problem with that just like how they dont with Christianity because it would actually be about the religion itself and not outside stereotypes.

And here, your stereotype of muslims has NOTHING to do with religion. Your stereotypes of muslims here dont focus on what they believe in with regards to the Quaran. All it is about is how a few radical political and religious groups that have commited acts of terrorism. It isn't even talking about the religion.. just negative stereotypes about what the people have done outside of it.

lol wtf??? a stereotype of muslims has nothing to do with religion? Say that aloud to yourself.

it has everything to do with the religion. all the terrorist attacks, all the viral videos of muslim leaders, all the suicide bombings... all that stuff is done in the name of islam, waging jihad, praising allah, etc. as is wearing turbans and birkas etc.

so... saying christians are inbred, low-class ignorant sheep is just a bone picked with their religion, but saying muslims are terrorists and towelheads is a personal barb?

you are fighting very hard to argue that something plainly true is false. Why? What is your motivation for insisting that one is ok and the other is not, when they are the same thing?

It's because you have a bias. You think Christians wont be "as hurt" by insults because there are more of them. You simply think that the larger a group is, the more excusable it is to levy insults against them that you would find inappropriate to level against a minority group.

Cali Liberal mindset to a tee.

[d.bball.guy]

I'm a Christian but I don't hate any other religion or beliefs. I hate this dumb one, though. He's fooling stupid people.

http://religionnerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/harold-camping-with-long-nose.jpg

[tpols]

lol wtf??? a stereotype of muslims has nothing to do with religion? Say that aloud to yourself.

it has everything to do with the religion. all the terrorist attacks, all the viral videos of muslim leaders, all the suicide bombings... all that stuff is done in the name of islam, waging jihad, praising allah, etc. as is wearing turbans and birkas etc.
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All Christians, by the definition of their religion, are supposed to spread their faith. It is what Jesus preached and is the reason you see so many trolls on this site trying to convince people about Christianity. The stereotype that they are naive and dumb for so strictly following all of their rules[no pre-marital sex, church every sunday, belief in sinning and afterlifes] comes DIRECTLY from what they believe in. When people debate with Christians on this site, it is about how they are naive for believing in God and Jesus and that they believe they will be judged on some cloud right after they die by these two figures. It is DIRECTLY about what they believe in in their religion.

The muslim examples you provided don't talk about how Muslims believe in Allah, or that Muslims believe when they die if they are clean they will have however many virgins in paradise. NONE of your muslim examples focus around Muslim beliefs. They focus around negative outside things being performed by muslims[ie terrorist attacks]. That is what I meant by 'focused around religion'. I meant it literally and directly.

[tpols]

FT, you're confusing general religious stereotypes with Christian stereotypes. The same people that argue that Christians are sheep for believing in God, would agree that Muslims are sheep for believing in Allah. It's the same exact concept. The only difference is Christians compromise the majority of posters in this country and on this site so it is the religion that is most often brought up to apply the general religious stereotypes to.

And actually, for Christians in the U.S., it can be seen as worse in some cases because we live in such a diverse and open place where tons of information is available to choose for yourself what you want to do. Jews and Muslims often live with and are surrounded by each other. It's a much more dedicated lifestyle. They couldn't just leave the religion without being ostracized by their families. Most of the kids I grew up going to church with dont go anymore.. and their parents dont really care. That's a big, big difference there. Its harder to call a Jew naive for what they believe in because they have to believe in it for the sake of their community and family. Christians dont live in communities together[none that I know of anyway].. it isn't nearly as hardcore. They have the free will to choose what they want to believe in.

[Is He Ill]

lol wtf??? a stereotype of muslims has nothing to do with religion? Say that aloud to yourself.

it has everything to do with the religion. all the terrorist attacks, all the viral videos of muslim leaders, all the suicide bombings... all that stuff is done in the name of islam, waging jihad, praising allah, etc. as is wearing turbans and birkas etc.

so... saying christians are inbred, low-class ignorant sheep is just a bone picked with their religion, but saying muslims are terrorists and towelheads is a personal barb?

you are fighting very hard to argue that something plainly true is false. Why? What is your motivation for insisting that one is ok and the other is not, when they are the same thing?

It's because you have a bias. You think Christians wont be "as hurt" by insults because there are more of them. You simply think that the larger a group is, the more excusable it is to levy insults against them that you would find inappropriate to level against a minority group.

Cali Liberal mindset to a tee.

Who on here is saying that? People here keep referring to your comments and then you go out and bring derogatory terms that you have heard outside of this website and expect people to comment on it, as if they were the ones who are defending them or saying them. Nobody is defending Christians being called inbred low class ignorant sheep, you're right, it shouldn't be said. But nobody here is saying them, unlike you, who is actually referring to Muslims as terrorists.

If all Muslims were terrorists, we would have a much larger issue than we currently do. You whine about Christians being called rednecks and then you go and call an entire religion "terrorists." How do you expect people to respect your delusional opinions? You are as hypocritical as it gets, and a hypocrite's opinion holds no merit.

[sh0wtime]

Because majority of those who rip into Jews/Muslims are Christians and those who rip into Christians are Christians (or at least unreligious ones, atheists) aswell so i guess it makes it less racist not liking your own religion, hehe.

Dont know whats so "racist" about it though, if you consider the literal term of "racist", i mean those are religions, not races, its an ideology, not a race. You like a blue shirt, i like a red shirt, doesnt mean we are a different race. Dont know about Jews, but Islam just like Christianity is extremly international/interracial.

But i get your point, those who hate religions are either atheists or ofcourse "racists", cant be a true christian/jew/muslim and hate another religion, hating and not loving is against the whole point of those religions, those who "hate" and kill others and kill themselves and so on and consider themselves "true muslims/christians/jews" are only corrupt/false/psycho "religious" human beings with a screw loose who abuse and twist the meanings and context of the teachings to feed their evil deeds.

[Hazard]

I was born Jewish and am an atheist. I got into it with some Yeshiva people at my cousins birthday cause I said that Moses ate some peyote in the desert by mistake and started tripping balls, which is why he thought he was talking to a burning bush. I wasn't trying to make a point, it was simply for my own entertainment, you know cause I'm cool like that... all hipster-ish and what not. Check out my awesome glasses... OH WAIT - THERE'S NO LENS. God I'm cool.

Religious people are always the first ones to latch on to you for your lack of faith. You have either never met a religious person or spend too much time in front of a computer. Religion brings out weakness in people, it makes them scared of some bullshit deity that does not exist. Makes them not accountable for their own mistakes because some old man in the sky is gonna forgive them. They realize how ****ed we all are and they think they can jump ship by living by some book. Newsflash kids, you're a part of this jacked up world just like the rest of us. Jesus won't come and save you, time to wake up.

I've seen assholes standing on the street corner with bibles trying to convert naive kids to their little club, never seen any atheists do that, have you? I highly doubt it.

Also OP is a ****** - am I doing it right?

[Patrick Chewing]

[QUOTE=Banksh

[rufuspaul]

[QUOTE=Banksh

[vitamink420]

Jews and Muslims don't try to interfere with my life or force their beliefs on me and others. A lot of Christians do however, so they get bashed.

[rufuspaul]

Jews and Muslims don't try to interfere with my life or force their beliefs on me and others. A lot of Christians do however, so they get bashed.

Here's an experiment: Start bashing on Judaism in the same way Bladers has been bashing my Catholic faith for the last week and see how long you last before being banned.

[tpols]

Here's an experiment: Start bashing on Judaism in the same way Bladers has been bashing my Catholic faith for the last week and see how long you last before being banned.
It depends how he does it though..

Is he going to do it the Bladers way and call you a heretic, fool, and discuss the actual talking points of Judiasm like he did with you and Catholicism? Or is he going to do it the Fourth Tenor way and just start calling them greedy, money hungry scoundrels? One will result in a ban and the other wont.

[shlver]

Jews and Muslims don't try to interfere with my life or force their beliefs on me and others. A lot of Christians do however, so they get bashed.
I find it really hard to believe that all of you are getting Christianity shoved down your throats...

[Goon Time]

Oh Starface, champion of the straight, white, christian, middle class-wealthy male. You really are sticking it to the liberal hipsters. What a brain-bending community college level observation by you. Next we'll be talking about why white jokes are so much more acceptable than those against black, hispanic, or asian. You'll probably throw in some "examples" of your own that are laden with the undertones of your transparent bigotry. It's so much easier for a simple minded pawn such as yourself to live in a world of stereotype. You do a wonderful job of flipping the script on victimization- you go boy. Why don't you go find another story involving crime perpetrated by a black man so you can talk about what savages and animals they are?

You're pushing 30 and you're living off your father, a completely useless drain on society. But oh oh, you're out in hollywood carving a whole new path for the modern entertainer right? How's that going for you? How's your "freelancing" going? LOL.

Free life advice: get a job, stop bringing your asinine opinions to the internet and trying to convince people you know shit about anything. You're a sheltered f@ggot with no income, education, or future. You have ZERO swag, people with swag don't have to pick up girls who don't speak english off internet dating sites. They also don't go into threads not-so-subtly bragging about conquests with women like it's a junior high locker room. It must be discouraging knowing that your tiny ***** didn't satisfy the el salvadorian woman. It's crystal clear you have zero friends.

Now back to the limp dick conversation starring primetime the mental midget and a bunch of other losers who are incapable of critical thought

[rufuspaul]

It depends how he does it though..

Is he going to do it the Bladers way and call you a heretic, fool, and discuss the actual talking points of Judiasm like he did with you and Catholicism? Or is he going to do it the Fourth Tenor way and just start calling them greedy, money hungry scoundrels? One will result in a ban and the other wont.

Telling me I'm a devil worshiping heretic is a talking point? That would most certainly be considered anti semitic had Bladers been talking about Jews.

[Dolphin]

Oh Starface, champion of the straight, white, christian, middle class-wealthy male. You really are sticking it to the liberal hipsters. What a brain-bending community college level observation by you. Next we'll be talking about why white jokes are so much more acceptable than those against black, hispanic, or asian. You'll probably throw in some "examples" of your own that are laden with the undertones of your transparent bigotry. It's so much easier for a simple minded pawn such as yourself to live in a world of stereotype. You do a wonderful job of flipping the script on victimization- you go boy. Why don't you go find another story involving crime perpetrated by a black man so you can talk about what savages and animals they are?

You're pushing 30 and you're living off your father, a completely useless drain on society. But oh oh, you're out in hollywood carving a whole new path for the modern entertainer right? How's that going for you? How's your "freelancing" going? LOL.

Free life advice: get a job, stop bringing your asinine opinions to the internet and trying to convince people you know shit about anything. You're a sheltered f@ggot with no income, education, or future. You have ZERO swag, people with swag don't have to pick up girls who don't speak english off internet dating sites. They also don't go into threads not-so-subtly bragging about conquests with women like it's a junior high locker room. It must be discouraging knowing that your tiny ***** didn't satisfy the el salvadorian woman. It's crystal clear you have zero friends.

Now back to the limp dick conversation starring primetime the mental midget and a bunch of other losers who are incapable of critical thought

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[Is He Ill]

Oh Starface, champion of the straight, white, christian, middle class-wealthy male. You really are sticking it to the liberal hipsters. What a brain-bending community college level observation by you. Next we'll be talking about why white jokes are so much more acceptable than those against black, hispanic, or asian. You'll probably throw in some "examples" of your own that are laden with the undertones of your transparent bigotry. It's so much easier for a simple minded pawn such as yourself to live in a world of stereotype. You do a wonderful job of flipping the script on victimization- you go boy. Why don't you go find another story involving crime perpetrated by a black man so you can talk about what savages and animals they are?

You're pushing 30 and you're living off your father, a completely useless drain on society. But oh oh, you're out in hollywood carving a whole new path for the modern entertainer right? How's that going for you? How's your "freelancing" going? LOL.

Free life advice: get a job, stop bringing your asinine opinions to the internet and trying to convince people you know shit about anything. You're a sheltered f@ggot with no income, education, or future. You have ZERO swag, people with swag don't have to pick up girls who don't speak english off internet dating sites. They also don't go into threads not-so-subtly bragging about conquests with women like it's a junior high locker room. It must be discouraging knowing that your tiny ***** didn't satisfy the el salvadorian woman. It's crystal clear you have zero friends.

Now back to the limp dick conversation starring primetime the mental midget and a bunch of other losers who are incapable of critical thought

Wow...:roll:

[tpols]

Telling me I'm a devil worshiping heretic is a talking point? That would most certainly be considered anti semitic had Bladers been talking about Jews.
:oldlol: He was actually discussing your religion though.. quoting the bible, saying how you shouldn't be worshipping statues of men other than Jesus. It wasn't like he was running on some stereotypes of Catholics. If he said that stuff to some Jewish people after quoting the Torah and Bible and providing reasons I dont think he'd get banned.. as long as he doesn't venture down the road of bringing in outside stereotypes like greed/appearance etc.

[Nanners]

Oh Starface, champion of the straight, white, christian, middle class-wealthy male. You really are sticking it to the liberal hipsters. What a brain-bending community college level observation by you. Next we'll be talking about why white jokes are so much more acceptable than those against black, hispanic, or asian. You'll probably throw in some "examples" of your own that are laden with the undertones of your transparent bigotry. It's so much easier for a simple minded pawn such as yourself to live in a world of stereotype. You do a wonderful job of flipping the script on victimization- you go boy. Why don't you go find another story involving crime perpetrated by a black man so you can talk about what savages and animals they are?

You're pushing 30 and you're living off your father, a completely useless drain on society. But oh oh, you're out in hollywood carving a whole new path for the modern entertainer right? How's that going for you? How's your "freelancing" going? LOL.

Free life advice: get a job, stop bringing your asinine opinions to the internet and trying to convince people you know shit about anything. You're a sheltered f@ggot with no income, education, or future. You have ZERO swag, people with swag don't have to pick up girls who don't speak english off internet dating sites. They also don't go into threads not-so-subtly bragging about conquests with women like it's a junior high locker room. It must be discouraging knowing that your tiny ***** didn't satisfy the el salvadorian woman. It's crystal clear you have zero friends.

Now back to the limp dick conversation starring primetime the mental midget and a bunch of other losers who are incapable of critical thought
:roll:

TKO

[San Fran Sam]

Oh Starface, champion of the straight, white, christian, middle class-wealthy male. You really are sticking it to the liberal hipsters. What a brain-bending community college level observation by you. Next we'll be talking about why white jokes are so much more acceptable than those against black, hispanic, or asian. You'll probably throw in some "examples" of your own that are laden with the undertones of your transparent bigotry. It's so much easier for a simple minded pawn such as yourself to live in a world of stereotype. You do a wonderful job of flipping the script on victimization- you go boy. Why don't you go find another story involving crime perpetrated by a black man so you can talk about what savages and animals they are?

You're pushing 30 and you're living off your father, a completely useless drain on society. But oh oh, you're out in hollywood carving a whole new path for the modern entertainer right? How's that going for you? How's your "freelancing" going? LOL.

Free life advice: get a job, stop bringing your asinine opinions to the internet and trying to convince people you know shit about anything. You're a sheltered f@ggot with no income, education, or future. You have ZERO swag, people with swag don't have to pick up girls who don't speak english off internet dating sites. They also don't go into threads not-so-subtly bragging about conquests with women like it's a junior high locker room. It must be discouraging knowing that your tiny ***** didn't satisfy the el salvadorian woman. It's crystal clear you have zero friends.

Now back to the limp dick conversation starring primetime the mental midget and a bunch of other losers who are incapable of critical thought

This is the gayest post ever...................So its awesome

[rufuspaul]

:oldlol: He was actually discussing your religion though.. quoting the bible, saying how you shouldn't be worshipping statues of men other than Jesus. It wasn't like he was running on some stereotypes of Catholics.
:facepalm Those are falsehoods and stereotypes, perpetuated by people like Bladers.

[FourthTenor]

Oh Starface, champion of the straight, white, christian, middle class-wealthy male. You really are sticking it to the liberal hipsters. What a brain-bending community college level observation by you. Next we'll be talking about why white jokes are so much more acceptable than those against black, hispanic, or asian. You'll probably throw in some "examples" of your own that are laden with the undertones of your transparent bigotry. It's so much easier for a simple minded pawn such as yourself to live in a world of stereotype. You do a wonderful job of flipping the script on victimization- you go boy. Why don't you go find another story involving crime perpetrated by a black man so you can talk about what savages and animals they are?

You're pushing 30 and you're living off your father, a completely useless drain on society. But oh oh, you're out in hollywood carving a whole new path for the modern entertainer right? How's that going for you? How's your "freelancing" going? LOL.

Free life advice: get a job, stop bringing your asinine opinions to the internet and trying to convince people you know shit about anything. You're a sheltered f@ggot with no income, education, or future. You have ZERO swag, people with swag don't have to pick up girls who don't speak english off internet dating sites. They also don't go into threads not-so-subtly bragging about conquests with women like it's a junior high locker room. It must be discouraging knowing that your tiny ***** didn't satisfy the el salvadorian woman. It's crystal clear you have zero friends.

Now back to the limp dick conversation starring primetime the mental midget and a bunch of other losers who are incapable of critical thought

lol josh i'm hardly pushing 30. i'm 26.

my swag allows me to talk about what i want, when i want, how i want, and to gladly put my own name on it.

what does your swag allow you to do? post harmlessly about hip hop and other mundane topics on the name people know you by, and then lash out at all the people whose lives you envy on your top secret internet gimmick names? this is like the 8th name you've used in this thread to make futile attempts to make me feel the disappointment and depression that oyu do.




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that aint no swag




THIS is swag http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5279/photoon20110705at19582.jpg

[FourthTenor]

Feel that seething jealousy as you contemplate that I'm smarter, AND better looking than you, AND funnier and more charming, AND hit more skins than your Troll-in-RL azz.

suckaaaa

[Dolphin]

lol josh i'm hardly pushing 30. i'm 26.

my swag allows me to talk about what i want, when i want, how i want, and to gladly put my own name on it.

what does your swag allow you to do? post harmlessly about hip hop and other mundane topics on the name people know you by, and then lash out at all the people whose lives you envy on your top secret internet gimmick names? this is like the 8th name you've used in this thread to make futile attempts to make me feel the disappointment and depression that oyu do.




http://cmonsononline.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/c039mon-son-gallery/cmonson-1-w400-h400.jpg



that aint no swag




THIS is swag http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5279/photoon20110705at19582.jpg

You age well.

[FourthTenor]

You age well.

And that's even me with a sinus infection right now, unshowered and uncouth, still a beacon of swag amongst the swagless, like a lighthouse on a clear dark night

[Dolphin]

And that's even me with a sinus infection right now, unshowered and uncouth, still a beacon of swag amongst the swagless, like a lighthouse on a clear dark night

It's good knowing you will look 30 when you're 40 and so on. Ladies are attracted to a man who ages well.

[FourthTenor]

for the sake of making trolls jealous, we'll allow page 7 to be the derailment page. after that, its back to the lecture at hand
(perfection is perfected so imma make 'em understand)

[Big_Dogg]

for the sake of making trolls jealous, we'll allow page 7 to be the derailment page. after that, its back to the lecture at hand
(perfection is perfected so imma make 'em understand)

But from an O.G's perspective

we really wished your parents had of used a contraceptive..........:D

sorry dude, had to do it to keep the theme alive :pimp:

[Jackass18]

he is right though, there is a double standard

good thread...:applause:

I took a peek at threads about Islam. They all seem to be from '08 and '09 and I saw plenty of negativity and/or jokes about Islam. There were some people who stood up for Islam just like there's people who stand up for Christianity. A double standard might exist to some, but it doesn't to many others. If some annoying Muslim went around constantly creating threads preaching Islam and shitting on science and atheism, then it would get hate, but there's barely been any threads about Islam since '09. Threads about Christianity have been done to death.

[FourthTenor]

I took a peek at threads about Islam. They all seem to be from '08 and '09 and I saw plenty of negativity and/or jokes about Islam. There were some people who stood up for Islam just like there's people who stand up for Christianity. A double standard might exist to some, but it doesn't to many others. If some annoying Muslim went around constantly creating threads preaching Islam and shitting on science and atheism, then it would get hate, but there's barely been any threads about Islam since '09. Threads about Christianity have been done to death.


I'm not saying it goes all one way and none the other.

But the general perception definitely leans toward thinking someone who makes a derisive comment about muslims or jews is intolerant, bigoted, malicious etc. whereas someone who makes an equally derisive comment about christians is just seen as some reasonable person annoyed with all those tedious, backward christians out there.

[vinsane01]

I don't bash Christians. I bash anyone who tries to shove their beliefs in my face and down my throat. Doesn't matter to me what religion they are or beliefs they hold, that's their choice and I have no problem with it. Just don't act all holier than thou and come off like your way is the only right way.


Ditto.

To answer the OP, part of the answer is that most of the people that bash Christianity are former christians who felt that they were conned or deceived into believing in something of which they wouldnt have believed if they werent brought up in such an environment. Most of bashing takes place in the internet since they cant verbalize what they want to say in real life for fear of rejection and unwarranted criticism for they are outnumbered by christians, a fair number of which are fundamentalists. The emotion builds up and turns from upsetting to anger and they exaggerate what they want to say in the net.

IMO this kind of behavior will pass and make way for better rationalization and understanding.

[FourthTenor]

To answer the OP, part of the answer is that most of the people that bash Christianity are former christians who felt that they were conned or deceived into believing in something of which they wouldnt have believed if they werent brought up in such an environment. Most of bashing takes place in the internet since they cant verbalize what they want to say in real life for fear of rejection and unwarranted criticism for they are outnumbered by christians, a fair number of which are fundamentalists. The emotion builds up and turns from upsetting to anger and they exaggerate what they want to say in the net.


IMO it stems from the belief that its ok to make fun of a majority group or an 'establishment', or someone thats part of a majority group, such as christianity is here in america, because it will hurt them less than making fun of a person or group who is not included in the majority.

the same people who will shriek intolerance if you make a crack about gays, jews, blacks, muslms, mexicans etc. are the same people who make the EXACT SAME KINDS OF CRACKS about christians, southerners, republicans, 'old white men' etc.

And the justification is 'oh, theyre the establishment, they wont be offended that much, so its ok.'

Basically these looney toons who preach talking points of equality and tolerance are the same people trying to make themselves the arbiters of who its ok to rip into and who its not, rather than applying the same rules across the board.

[Jackass18]

I'm not saying it goes all one way and none the other.

But the general perception definitely leans toward thinking someone who makes a derisive comment about muslims or jews is intolerant, bigoted, malicious etc. whereas someone who makes an equally derisive comment about christians is just seen as some reasonable person annoyed with all those tedious, backward christians out there.

People might be less tolerant of Judaism-bashing, but Islam? That gets plenty of hate. You might get the impression that you described because people are much more familiar with Christianity so they have various things they can attack, but for Islam they don't know a whole lot so they resort mainly to insulting them. Christians might get a few intolerant, bigoted, malicious-type comments, but they're usually surrounded by plenty of lighter comments while comments towards Muslims are mainly the intolerant, bigoted, and malicious-type. Hell, many people who weren't even Muslims were attacked as if they were Muslims based on their appearance. Look at the level of tolerance there. People who looked like they might possibly be Muslim were getting attacked simply because they wore turbans and had a resemblance of someone from the Middle East. People weren't even going after the correct religion...

[A.R.T]

lol josh i'm hardly pushing 30. i'm 26.

my swag allows me to talk about what i want, when i want, how i want, and to gladly put my own name on it.

what does your swag allow you to do? post harmlessly about hip hop and other mundane topics on the name people know you by, and then lash out at all the people whose lives you envy on your top secret internet gimmick names? this is like the 8th name you've used in this thread to make futile attempts to make me feel the disappointment and depression that oyu do.




http://cmonsononline.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/1/files/c039mon-son-gallery/cmonson-1-w400-h400.jpg



that aint no swag




THIS is swag http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/5279/photoon20110705at19582.jpg

can someone explain to me how a nose bandaid, dirty looking hair, and sitting in a dark room taking a picture of yourself solely for the purpose of posting it on ISH is considered swag?

[miller-time]

one of the reasons the criticisms between muslims/jews and christians is different is that most of the people criticising them are still a part of the same culture. it has little to do with race and more to do with culture. i'm an atheist and i still celebrate christmas and easter, and apart from going to church, my life is basically the same as every other moderate western christian. if i were to say culturally insensitive remarks i would be saying them about myself too. i don't consider myself a christian basher, but if i were, what would i be bashing? my own culture.

[Goon Time]

can someone explain to me how a nose bandaid, dirty looking hair, and sitting in a dark room taking a picture of yourself solely for the purpose of posting it on ISH is considered swag?

Don't you get it? He's being hilarious!


This is a 26, going on 27 year old kid who wears four earrings, a greasy boy band haircut, and lives entirely off of his father's allowance. He wants to be a movie star ROFL. He probably wants to be a cowboy and a superhero too. He dropped out of college, his resume consists of part time shoe salesman at the mall and guinea pig for paid experiments. He is average in every way, failing at life, and he hates himself for it, so we get these occasional bursts of activity from him where he dazzles us with his rudimentary observations on society and politics, desperately trying to paint us a picture of some outspoken pseudo-intellectual with unpopular but truthful insight, but alas, daddy's little angel is just a racist without a cause and nothing interesting to say. He has no friends which is why he comes here to prove himself, but almost everybody hates him here too. His name is Chris Samuels and you can find him on plentyoffish looking for an immigrant to share his swag with.


http://www.memecenter.com/uploaded/84f8fcbec9a24d9636ea59e70f153ccd.jpg

[rufuspaul]

Don't you get it? He's being hilarious!


This is a 26, going on 27 year old kid who wears four earrings, a greasy boy band haircut, and lives entirely off of his father's allowance. He wants to be a movie star ROFL. He probably wants to be a cowboy and a superhero too. He dropped out of college, his resume consists of part time shoe salesman at the mall and guinea pig for paid experiments. He is average in every way, failing at life, and he hates himself for it, so we get these occasional bursts of activity from him where he dazzles us with his rudimentary observations on society and politics, desperately trying to paint us a picture of some outspoken pseudo-intellectual with unpopular but truthful insight, but alas, daddy's little angel is just a racist without a cause and nothing interesting to say. He has no friends which is why he comes here to prove himself, but almost everybody hates him here too. His name is Chris Samuels and you can find him on plentyoffish looking for an immigrant to share his swag with.


http://www.memecenter.com/uploaded/84f8fcbec9a24d9636ea59e70f153ccd.jpg

http://i45.photobucket.com/albums/f80/rufuspaul/down-4-the-count_5.jpg

[brownmamba00]

but Islam just like Christianity is extremly international/interracial.


No it's not you dumb fukk

[brownmamba00]

If some annoying Muslim went around constantly creating threads preaching Islam and shitting on science and atheism, then it would get hate, but there's barely been any threads about Islam since '09.
And there is a reason Muslims dont do that.

It's a sin in Islam to try to force Islam in ppls face

[rufuspaul]

And there is a reason Muslims dont do that.

It's a sin in Islam to try to force Islam in ppls face

Really?

[QUOTE]For almost a thousand years ... Europe was under constant threat. In the early centuries it was a double threat

[-playmaker-]

People might be less tolerant of Judaism-bashing, but Islam? That gets plenty of hate. You might get the impression that you described because people are much more familiar with Christianity so they have various things they can attack, but for Islam they don't know a whole lot so they resort mainly to insulting them. Christians might get a few intolerant, bigoted, malicious-type comments, but they're usually surrounded by plenty of lighter comments while comments towards Muslims are mainly the intolerant, bigoted, and malicious-type. Hell, many people who weren't even Muslims were attacked as if they were Muslims based on their appearance. Look at the level of tolerance there. People who looked like they might possibly be Muslim were getting attacked simply because they wore turbans and had a resemblance of someone from the Middle East. People weren't even going after the correct religion...
not trying to pick on you or anything like that but you were scared to say "JEW-BASHING" correct?

probably a lot of that in this thread...

that says a lot right there I think

[JtotheIzzo]

Lil somethin I've noticed:

The same people on this board who love to rip into everything about christianity -

typically the younger posters with virtually no self-identity and even less swag, who desperately seek refuge and acceptance in the progressive "counter culture", who will spout any hyper-liberal drivel that they think makes them appear sophisticated and progressive, the posters whose inability to articulate independent thought has reduced them to simply choosing one team or the other and waiving its flag without understanding why -

always seem to be the same ones who are ready to throw a fit and whip the "bigotry" card off their hip like a six-shooter if you dare say anything offensive about any other religions. They'll even fire off "racist" labels in a discussion about religion, even though the two are completely unrelated (thats clearly not gonna stop their crusade of "equality for all, with an emphasis on extra equality for some.")

Person A: "Christians are ignorant hypocrites who just want an excuse to control you and and take advantage of your stupid blind faith, they believe fairytales and dont live the way they tell everyone else to."
Hipster: "Amen to that - No pun intended! Ahahahaha!

Person A: "And Jews are money-grubbing, conniving manipulators whose only agenda is to keep Jews on top..."
Hipster: "WTF?? Where did you come from, Mississippi??? What an ignorant bigot you are, get away from me.

Person A: And those stupid terrorist, towel-head muslims, they oughtta GTFO because that stuff they believe in is pure nonsense.
Hipster: Excuse me, have you ever heard of freedom of religion? It's in the constitution you arrogant redneck racist bigot. Go add more George Bush bumper stickers to your pickup you fukcing dumb hick. How dare you generalize muslims like that, your intolerance is what's wrong with this country!!!



Why is it that ripping Christians is accepted as fun, forgivable, and leisurely...

But ripping Jews or Muslims is considered hostile, racist, hateful, disrespectful, and inexcusable?


http://insurgencyinc.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/05/hipster-beard-pbr.jpg


Ripping on Muslims is rampant in the US, and most Western countries, get your head out of your ass.

[brownmamba00]

Really?



http://answering-islam.org/Terrorism/by_the_sword.html
LMAO@you going back to the Medieval.

There were a lot of things that shouldnt been done in those days. Those were dark days in Europe.

And an act of man is not an act of Islam/Christianity/Judaism. Doesn't make it less of a sin even if Muslims did it back then.

[rufuspaul]

LMAO@you going back to the Medieval.

There were a lot of things that shouldnt been done in those days. Those were dark days in Europe.

And an act of man is not an act of Islam/Christianity/Judaism. Doesn't make it less of a sin even if Muslims did it back then.

Yeah it was a long time ago, but they were acting upon what their interpretations of Islam were, ie what was written in the Quran. Much like the crusades in Christianity. These things are condemned nowadays but you can't say that these religions don't encourage conversion.

[brownmamba00]

Yeah it was a long time ago, but they were acting upon what their interpretations of Islam were, ie what was written in the Quran. Much like the crusades in Christianity. These things are condemned nowadays but you can't say that these religions don't encourage conversion.

You said it yourself. Dumb ppl will always interpret things in a wrong way. These ppl who interpret things in the Quran/Torah/Bible should not be hold responsible for religion and God himself.

I'm not even a religious person but I hate it when ppl generalize things based on what ignorant ppl believe and do.

[Jackass18]

not trying to pick on you or anything like that but you were scared to say "JEW-BASHING" correct?

probably a lot of that in this thread...

that says a lot right there I think

No, I was just referring to their religion hence I also said Islam and Christianity. People might be less tolerant of Jew-bashing. Happy?

[-playmaker-]

No, I was just referring to their religion hence I also said Islam and Christianity. People might be less tolerant of Jew-bashing. Happy?
not picking on you or anything...but you really ment "DIRTY-JEW-BASHING" correct?...but you were scared to say it right?

yeah, that's says a lot I think...

[Nanners]

Comparing jewbashing and christianbashing is stupid. How can one be racist towards a religion? You can be racist toward groups of people such as the inbred rednecks who practice christianity or the towel monkeys that practice islam, not the actual religions themselves.

Christian bashing is making fun of a religion. Jewbashing is making fun of a race. If you want to say that dreidels and menorahs are gay than that would be making fun of judiasm as a religion, but saying that jews are money grubbing is just racist.

[Take Your Lumps]

My stance is ridicule the religion, not the religious.

Call out the shepherd, not the sheep.

[FourthTenor]

Ripping on Muslims is rampant in the US, and most Western countries, get your head out of your ass.


Certainly, in various places around the country. Typically the people who rip muslims aren't the crowd who selectively plays the PC card ad nauseum, thus they aren't the topic of this discussion.

It's the crowd who is generally young, non-religious, and left-leaning who enjoy laughing with each other about how dumb christians are and how stupid the religion is, and then flip out if anyone makes a similar comment about a smaller religion like jews or muslims.

their practice is to assume anyone who makes fun of christians is progressive and well-meaning, and simply poking fun at a backward religion. but anyone who makes the same fun of jews or muslims is a xenophobe with a malicious agenda. this is an ASSUMPTION that applies two different standards to equal scenarios.

you know this is patently true. but of course, you're in the crowd that thinks its perfectly justifiable, though you would have trouble making good arguments for it. so instead you just deny the reality that its true and youre perfectly ok with it. by denying the truth, you dont have to defend or explain it, or risk changing it. you just deny it so that things remains status quo. be honest. you think its fair for the "big guy" to be targeted for more criticism than "the little guy". it may be too difficult for you to explain why in words, but thats exactly how you feel. and thats why this double standard exists.

[-playmaker-]

My stance is ridicule the religion, not the religious.

Call out the shepherd, not the sheep.
but there are ONLY sheep now...the major religions are really old


why not just let people believe what they want...:confusedshrug:

[Take Your Lumps]

but there are ONLY sheep now...the major religions are really old

The Vatican? Scripture. Hell.


why not just let people believe what they want...:confusedshrug:

People can believe in whatever they want. Lots of people believe in alien abductions and crystal energies and get laughed at. That's not what I'm promoting. What I'm saying is that the IDEA of crystals having special powers and aliens traveling countless light years to abduct human beings deserves to be picked apart....but people shouldn't be made fun of because they believe those things.

If people feel like they're being attacked because someone attacks an idea - there's nothing anyone can do about that. People will take shit personally...and in terms of Christianity, especially in the more protestant/literalist denominations, this tends to be the case.

Case in point - I just saw Trey and Matt's broadway show "The Book of Mormon" yesterday in NYC and absolutely loved it. But, so did my super-religious Christian in-laws.

Why?

Because the pure genius of that show is that it does NOT make fun of the Mormons in the show directly for believing what they believe. It's not a mean-spirited show. They poke fun, and tear apart every tenet and facet of Mormonism and in many ways, faith itself, and the need to 'feel' to want to be "right". But by the end of it, you realize it is a celebration of humanity when it comes together to achieve something -- no matter the crazy shit they may or may not believe.

[rufuspaul]

T

Case in point - I just saw Trey and Matt's broadway show "The Book of Mormon" yesterday in NYC and absolutely loved it.

I'm definitely gonna try and catch that next time I'm in NYC.

[nightprowler10]

Really?



http://answering-islam.org/Terrorism/by_the_sword.html
Hmm...I always thought Islam pushed out Zoroastrianism in most of those middle eastern states, and Christianity was a minority religion. Unless that seemingly biased website considers Zoroastrianism a type of Christianity. I forget, did they believe in Jesus or was it Manichaesm? Ah well, the point is I didn't think Christianity was ever prevalent in ME, North Africa sure, but not ME.

[Take Your Lumps]

I'm definitely gonna try and catch that next time I'm in NYC.

I hate hyping things up, but it really is one of the greatest things I've ever seen.

Just be prepared to pay a premium or stand outside in line for standing-room tickets. It's sold out for months.

[Jackass18]

not picking on you or anything...but you really ment "DIRTY-JEW-BASHING" correct?...but you were scared to say it right?

yeah, that's says a lot I think...

No, what I meant to say was ... oh wait, could get banned for that...


why not just let people believe what they want...

Where's the fun in that?

[Blackisbig]

The Vatican? Scripture. Hell.



People can believe in whatever they want. Lots of people believe in alien abductions and crystal energies and get laughed at. That's not what I'm promoting. What I'm saying is that the IDEA of crystals having special powers and aliens traveling countless light years to abduct human beings deserves to be picked apart....but people shouldn't be made fun of because they believe those things.

If people feel like they're being attacked because someone attacks an idea - there's nothing anyone can do about that. People will take shit personally...and in terms of Christianity, especially in the more protestant/literalist denominations, this tends to be the case.

Case in point - I just saw Trey and Matt's broadway show "The Book of Mormon" yesterday in NYC and absolutely loved it. But, so did my super-religious Christian in-laws.

Why?

Because the pure genius of that show is that it does NOT make fun of the Mormons in the show directly for believing what they believe. It's not a mean-spirited show. They poke fun, and tear apart every tenet and facet of Mormonism and in many ways, faith itself, and the need to 'feel' to want to be "right". But by the end of it, you realize it is a celebration of humanity when it comes together to achieve something -- no matter the crazy shit they may or may not believe.



Are you or your in-laws part of the LDS church? Because if not, it wouldn't surprise me if all of you loved it. Other Christian sects generally have a large amount of dislike and intolerance towards the Latter Day Saint faith.

This thread has so far been consistent with this forum's general lack of knowledge and all around ignorance regarding most any religious sect. Can't say that I'm surprised.

[Take Your Lumps]

Are you or your in-laws part of the LDS church? Because if not, it wouldn't surprise me if all of you loved it. Other Christian sects generally have a large amount of dislike and intolerance towards the Latter Day Saint faith.

Way to ignore the rest of my post...:rolleyes:

I don't believe in gods, btw.

[Balla_Status]

Someone tell me, why the ****, as Americans do most of us believe in a middle eastern religion? How bout we make our own goddamn religion.

And why don't people realize that if you're raised a certain religion, you're not really 'that religion.'

You never chose the religion for yourself. I was raised catholic but I wasn't a real catholic. It's best that parents don't raise kids religiously and let them make their own decision when they're old enough to do so. Otherwise, they're just fake christians, fake muslims etc.

They're brainwashed by their parents to believe that and never consciously chose to believe that.

So all you religious people out there that were raised under that certain religion, you're not a real christian, muslim, jew etc.

[rufuspaul]

Someone tell me, why the ****, as Americans do most of us believe in a middle eastern religion? How bout we make our own goddamn religion.

And why don't people realize that if you're raised a certain religion, you're not really 'that religion.'

You never chose the religion for yourself. I was raised catholic but I wasn't a real catholic. It's best that parents don't raise kids religiously and let them make their own decision when they're old enough to do so. Otherwise, they're just fake christians, fake muslims etc.

They're brainwashed by their parents to believe that and never consciously chose to believe that.

So all you religious people out there that were raised under that certain religion, you're not a real christian, muslim, jew etc.

Dude, your religion is Texan. We already knew that. :lol

[miller-time]

Someone tell me, why the ****, as Americans do most of us believe in a middle eastern religion? How bout we make our own goddamn religion.

straight off the bat i can think of mormonism and scientology. plus you have the patriot fanatics who you could compare to the state fanatics from north korea and the former soviet union.

[Balla_Status]

straight off the bat i can think of mormonism and scientology. plus you have the patriot fanatics who you could compare to the state fanatics from north korea and the former soviet union.

Yeah, mormonism is correct. And as far as the most hardcore religious people, mormons win.

[Patrick Chewing]

I took a peek at threads about Islam. They all seem to be from '08 and '09 and I saw plenty of negativity and/or jokes about Islam. There were some people who stood up for Islam just like there's people who stand up for Christianity. A double standard might exist to some, but it doesn't to many others. If some annoying Muslim went around constantly creating threads preaching Islam and shitting on science and atheism, then it would get hate, but there's barely been any threads about Islam since '09. Threads about Christianity have been done to death.


Dude, just turn on your TV. Forget what you'll see on the internet. On here, people will tell you what's really on their mind, but in the media there is a constant attack on Christianity. Movies are made, jokes are made, people protest, and what do they all have in common?? Anti-Christian.


There is a double-standard. Plain and simple.

[miller-time]

Dude, just turn on your TV. Forget what you'll see on the internet. On here, people will tell you what's really on their mind, but in the media there is a constant attack on Christianity. Movies are made, jokes are made, people protest, and what do they all have in common?? Anti-Christian.


There is a double-standard. Plain and simple.

the US has freaking christian TV channels dude, there has to be some balance. the difference between christianity and other religions in america is that it is everywhere. of course there is going to be a disparity between how many "anti-christian" statements and jokes are made compared to the other religions. hinduism, judaism and islam rhetoric isn't slapped on every other billboard or bumpsticker.

[Patrick Chewing]

the US has freaking christian TV channels dude, there has to be some balance. the difference between christianity and other religions in america is that it is everywhere. of course there is going to be a disparity between how many "anti-christian" statements and jokes are made compared to the other religions. hinduism, judaism and islam rhetoric isn't slapped on every other billboard or bumpsticker.

Yeah, but you're taking something like religion of all things and saying there should be a balance against it? The balance to Christianity on television or in your public circle should be just to ignore it or practice a different religion. But to purposely attack it and use our Constitution to defend your stance is preposterous to me.

[miller-time]

Yeah, but you're taking something like religion of all things and saying there should be a balance against it? The balance to Christianity on television or in your public circle should be just to ignore it or practice a different religion. But to purposely attack it and use our Constitution to defend your stance is preposterous to me.

of course there should be a balance against religion. do you think there should be no balance against islamic states that are committing human rights violations in the name of their religious beliefs? or is religious thought protected no matter what the costs? i know in your myopic view of the world christianity is something to be held sacred, but not everyone holds that belief, and i don't see why it should be an off limits to either serious debate or satire?

[Patrick Chewing]

of course there should be a balance against religion. do you think there should be no balance against islamic states that are committing human rights violations in the name of their religious beliefs? or is religious thought protected no matter what the costs? i know in your myopic view of the world christianity is something to be held sacred, but not everyone holds that belief, and i don't see why it should be an off limits to either serious debate or satire?

Let me ask you this, and this goes for every religion, but don't you think a line should be drawn with what is said and acted upon a particular religion or person who practices such considering followers number in the billions? Otherwise, what you'll have is newer generations believing that organized religion (primarily Christianity in this country) is a joke, and not respected for its sacredness as you mentioned.

Also, human rights violations in Islamic states bare no similarities to Christianity today.

[miller-time]

Let me ask you this, and this goes for every religion, but don't you think a line should be drawn with what is said and acted upon a particular religion or person who practices such considering followers number in the billions?

no, nothing should be off limits - we are talking about talking. we aren't talking about actions. i'm not saying religious people should be burnt at the stake or churches should be torn down. i'm saying that we should be allowed to say what we want about religion (like other view points such as politics or philosophy) irrespective of whether it causes offense or not. you have the right to be offended. you don't have the right to tell people what they can and can't say about religion.


Otherwise, what you'll have is newer generations believing that organized religion (primarily Christianity in this country) is a joke, and not respected for its sacredness as you mentioned.

if the shoe fits.


Also, human rights violations in Islamic states bare no similarities to Christianity today.

yes because christianity today has been toned down due to the separation of church and state *cough* secular checks and balances *cough*

[Goon Time]

Got a new case for you Starface! (http://www.insidehoops.com/forum/showpost.php?p=6163530&postcount=120)


just came back from the park... god i hate playing with a bunch of black people and called "white boy". If there was a token black guy playing with white people i doubt anybody would call him "black boy".


This is an outrage! All those liberal hipsters out there probably think it's okay because blacks went through slavery but we all know this double standard is just a microcosm of the larger picture; the straight, white, christian, middle-class or wealthy male is being held down!


Bonus! Facts from the mind of starface:

---any black person who commits a crime is a savage animal and a representative of the black community as a whole

---anyone on welfare or unemployment is lazy and a useless member of society

---27 year old dropouts who have their rent and bills paid by their parents are not pertinent to the prior statement, especially because those kids are likely creative geniuses who are about to blow up the scene in hollywood. Move over Ryan Gosling, Chris Samuels is going to the beach in the car his parents gave him to "do some writing"

---sensitivity towards anyone is a mental weakness, especially when it contradicts Starface's inconsistent, hypocritical views on egalitarianism


It's popular to pick on christians right now. It's easier and accepted as more harmless for people to pick on majority groups in power. Congratulations, you've gotten through 15 minutes of a community college sociology class. Glad to know you and the rest of the retard-logic kids of ISH can stretch this out into a 10 page thread.

You're a jobless loser, please go **** yourself Chris.


http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/5/10/128864799931596999.jpg

[Balla_Status]

I don't remember Goon Time. Who's alias are you again?

[Goon Time]

I don't remember Goon Time. Who's alias are you again?

shared account between Mathius and rufuspalsy

[FourthTenor]

I don't remember Goon Time. Who's alias are you again?

lol its legend of josh.

i dedicated page 7 to giving him the attention he wants, and the self inflicted pain he wants be seeing my handsome face and feeling the aura of my swag and thinking about how he is the most miserable member of the board with the most miserable life.

but the rest of this thread is real discussion. everyone else is having it. he's the only one awkwardly trying to derail it with his emotional breakdown.

let's just leave him to whither, swagless and alone.

:violin:

[Nanners]

there is no way that Goon Time is LOJ

[Jailblazers7]

Someone tell me, why the ****, as Americans do most of us believe in a middle eastern religion? How bout we make our own goddamn religion.

And why don't people realize that if you're raised a certain religion, you're not really 'that religion.'

You never chose the religion for yourself. I was raised catholic but I wasn't a real catholic. It's best that parents don't raise kids religiously and let them make their own decision when they're old enough to do so. Otherwise, they're just fake christians, fake muslims etc.

They're brainwashed by their parents to believe that and never consciously chose to believe that.

So all you religious people out there that were raised under that certain religion, you're not a real christian, muslim, jew etc.

That's a pretty ridiculous position to take on the authenticity of someone's faith. There comes a time when people age and fully understand their religion and part of that is question and exploring it in comparison with other religions. Practicing a religion past a certain age (18-20 i'd say) is still a choice and is by no means fake.

[vitamink420]

I find it really hard to believe that all of you are getting Christianity shoved down your throats...


Do you live in the USA? If you do it's impossible to deny. Politicians are trying to make religious dogma into actual laws, and many communities will shunt you out if you don't conform to their Christian ways.

/Grew up in South Carolina, and was often called a Satan child because my mom and dad were divorced

[FourthTenor]

there is no way that Goon Time is LOJ

:oldlol:


:violin:



defending your one gimmick with another gimmick?

youre the only person that refers to yourself as "LOJ" and all your names (nanners, goon time, lilkatemoss, premeditated etc.) have the same things in common: they are completely fixated on me, and they use the same words like nikka and fakkit that you used all the time on your old names when living out your urban fantasy.

fixate all ya want on me dawg. it aint no swag off my back. its actually pretty satisfying to know how many envious people there are whose lives im fortunate not to live. When i log off and am away from the comp i dont even think about this site. you of course never log off. while im out floating on my back in the ocean or double fisting drinks in a club grinding on a mamacita, you're still on here thinking about me. checkmate!

[juglenuts416]

Someone tell me, why the ****, as Americans do most of us believe in a middle eastern religion? How bout we make our own goddamn religion.

And why don't people realize that if you're raised a certain religion, you're not really 'that religion.'

You never chose the religion for yourself. I was raised catholic but I wasn't a real catholic. It's best that parents don't raise kids religiously and let them make their own decision when they're old enough to do so. Otherwise, they're just fake christians, fake muslims etc.

They're brainwashed by their parents to believe that and never consciously chose to believe that.

So all you religious people out there that were raised under that certain religion, you're not a real christian, muslim, jew etc.


So if I raise my children according to Christian principles (which,unless I'm missing something, are inherently good/positive) I'm brainwashing them? and how is this a bad thing for society?

[Nanners]

:oldlol:


:violin:



defending your one gimmick with another gimmick?

youre the only person that refers to yourself as "LOJ" and all your names (nanners, goon time, lilkatemoss, premeditated etc.) have the same things in common: they are completely fixated on me, and they use the same words like nikka and fakkit that you used all the time on your old names when living out your urban fantasy.

fixate all ya want on me dawg. it aint no swag off my back. its actually pretty satisfying to know how many envious people there are whose lives im fortunate not to live. When i log off and am away from the comp i dont even think about this site. you of course never log off. while im out floating on my back in the ocean or double fisting drinks in a club grinding on a mamacita, you're still on here thinking about me. checkmate!


A few months ago I was ripping on LOJ for being a massive douche and he told me the that I was Starface. He basically said the same narcissistic crap word for word that you are spewing now.

Its funny that you would accuse me of being LOJ, considering that you are basically the same person as him. Rapidly aging turdball with illusions of grandeur and "e-swag".... the only difference between you guys is he has bald spot and he is not racist. There is a thread from 2009 where you can find Lamar Dooms epic description of LOJ which strangely fits you as well. You can also find me making fun of LOJ in this same thread. So yeah, you are correct. I am LOJ and I have been talking shit to myself since 2009: http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=14974&page=32

[FourthTenor]

So if I raise my children according to Christian principles (which,unless I'm missing something, are inherently good/positive) I'm brainwashing them? and how is this a bad thing for society?


Can you teach strong social and moral values without having to justify them as the will of some god whose existence you cant remotely describe in detail?

Why do you have to invoke Jesus and other such fiction in order to teach your children real virtues like compassion, altruism, patience, responsibility etc?

You can't just explain to them why its good for them and the society they live in to practice such habits? You have to relate it to a science fiction book and a promise to live forever?

Maybe you want to control them just like the religion aims to. Maybe you want to create a bond through religion, something you can be sure you'll have in common with your kids as they get older. Maybe you're afraid that without that bond they'll grow apart from you toward their own interests, and THATS why you want to control them with church?

Hm?

[rufuspaul]

Can you teach strong social and moral values without having to justify them as the will of some god whose existence you cant remotely describe in detail?

Why do you have to invoke Jesus and other such fiction in order to teach your children real virtues like compassion, altruism, patience, responsibility etc?

You can't just explain to them why its good for them and the society they live in to practice such habits? You have to relate it to a science fiction book and a promise to live forever?

Maybe you want to control them just like the religion aims to. Maybe you want to create a bond through religion, something you can be sure you'll have in common with your kids as they get older. Maybe you're afraid that without that bond they'll grow apart from you toward their own interests, and THATS why you want to control them with church?

Hm?

What's your background Chris? Did you belong to a church as a child?

[FourthTenor]

A few months ago I was ripping on LOJ for being a massive douche and he told me the that I was Starface. He basically said the same narcissistic crap word for word that you are spewing now.

Its funny that you would accuse me of being LOJ, considering that you are basically the same person as him. Rapidly aging turdball with illusions of grandeur and "e-swag".... the only difference between you guys is he has bald spot and he is not racist. There is a thread from 2009 where you can find Lamar Dooms epic description of LOJ which strangely fits you as well. You can also find me making fun of LOJ in this same thread. So yeah, you are correct. I am LOJ and I have been talking shit to myself since 2009: http://207.58.151.151/forum/showthread.php?t=14974&page=32


this is getting sad josh. well actually, its been sad for quite some time.

but this aint the thread for it. if you wanna troll me in some other thread maybe i'll take the time to laugh at the particulars of all your depression, rage, and anxiety but we cant have every thread derailed with that discussion.

you can continue your posts that reek of internal desperation, trying to force me to defend untrue attacks (being "racist") or facts about me that i'm blatantly happy about (im 26, live in hollywood, on the verge of showbiz stardom etc.). there is no insult from you or anyone on any corner of the earth that i could possibly be offended by, because i have literally achieved total swag. everything about me that i can control - my interests, tastes, style, attitude - i control perfectly and without regret. everything i cant control - which is relatively little - i dont sweat for a second because i cant control it.

just call me swagfinger. everything i touch turns to swag. tho i wouldnt touch you with a ten foot pole.


/end of discussion, return of thread

[-playmaker-]

I felt like this was a decent topic...

too bad it turned into yet another debate about which posters are the biggest douchebags here...

[FourthTenor]

I felt like this was a decent topic...

too bad it turned into yet another debate about which posters are the biggest douchebags here...


This happens in all my threads, because i make quality threads, and insecure fan boyz and fixat0rs come in and cry out for my attention.




:rant

[rufuspaul]

I felt like this was a decent topic...

too bad it turned into yet another debate about which posters are the biggest douchebags here...

Don't worry primetime, you're still up there on the douche-o-meter.

[rufuspaul]

What's your background Chris? Did you belong to a church as a child?


Come on Chris, it's a legitimate question.

[-playmaker-]

Don't worry primetime, you're still up there on the douche-o-meter.
so go make your 10th thread about it...leave this one alone

[rufuspaul]

so go make your 10th thread about it...leave this one alone
:wtf: :confusedshrug:

I make threads about you being a douche? Link?

[-playmaker-]

:wtf: :confusedshrug:

I make threads about you being a douche? Link?
k, maybe not...



directing that more at everyone that just ass raped this thread...sick of hearing about Starface's movie career and LOJ's bald head...there are 100 threads trashed with that stuff

[Legend of Josh]

lol its legend of josh.

i dedicated page 7 to giving him the attention he wants, and the self inflicted pain he wants be seeing my handsome face and feeling the aura of my swag and thinking about how he is the most miserable member of the board with the most miserable life.

but the rest of this thread is real discussion. everyone else is having it. he's the only one awkwardly trying to derail it with his emotional breakdown.

let's just leave him to whither, swagless and alone.

:violin:

As usual, you're barking up the wrong tree. It isn't me. I haven't used a gimmick account in years. Your quick-LOJ finger on the trigger is getting played dude. You think every new gimmick is me. It must be LOJ! It just must be! Get off the nuts already.

:rolleyes:

On the first page I attempted to take up for you when everyone said you were trolling. I look at this thread as a valid point. Why would I suddenly jump the gun and talk shit?

[Legend of Josh]

:oldlol:


:violin:



defending your one gimmick with another gimmick?

youre the only person that refers to yourself as "LOJ" and all your names (nanners, goon time, lilkatemoss, premeditated etc.) have the same things in common: they are completely fixated on me, and they use the same words like nikka and fakkit that you used all the time on your old names when living out your urban fantasy.

fixate all ya want on me dawg. it aint no swag off my back. its actually pretty satisfying to know how many envious people there are whose lives im fortunate not to live. When i log off and am away from the comp i dont even think about this site. you of course never log off. while im out floating on my back in the ocean or double fisting drinks in a club grinding on a mamacita, you're still on here thinking about me. checkmate!

LOL, you've lost your mind, son. I'm not any of the posters you mentioned. Whatever helps you feel better though. Checkmate, dawg! OMG, I'm double-fisting drinks and grindin' on bit*hes up in the club.

A) the only thing you fist is another man's asshole.

B) you're gay. so that means you're grinding on tranny's in some hollyweird pha66ot club

...

C) YOU'RE the one who thinks of this site 27/7... I think we all know that.

[mlh1981]

I think everyone in this thread is the same person.

Wouldn't that be something?

[Rasheed1]

board has some psychos on it...

[Balla_Status]

Primetime with the voice of ****ing reason.

"lol you're still sucking off daddy's tits"

"lol you're balding"

"stfu virgin"

"alcoholic racist"

"you look like a girl. Nice hair ****!"

[Ass Dan]

This happens in all my threads, because i make quality threads, and insecure fan boyz and fixat0rs come in and cry out for my attention.




:rant

you gotz mindraped boy-o, by some i|l|l shit! stay in the minor leagues, and keep pumping out dem tweets Pulsar in the Dark, i|l|l be reading.

On topic, people shit on Christians because they are jamming an agenda down our throats and are the most politically active in the US of A. Muslims are trying NOT to be noticed right now, and Jews be doing their thang (banking cake and eatin motza ball soup at Jerry's World Famous).

'Progressives' bash 'Christians' because that is the battle currently brewing in our politics between the tea-baggers and the Obamabots.

Its like John Forte negroes, Poli-Sci.

[pete's montreux]

not a f*cking chance in hell goon time is loj

[RidonKs]

stupid thread. even if it was true, which it isn't really, it isn't about anything. there's plenty of relevant bullsh*t to rant about going on every day, why waste so much time milking a strawman double standard that doesn't even make a point?

[juglenuts416]

Can you teach strong social and moral values without having to justify them as the will of some god whose existence you cant remotely describe in detail??

Absolutly, many parents do. I would caution that I don't teach my children morals on the basis of "it's the will of some God" as you stated.


Why do you have to invoke Jesus and other such fiction in order to teach your children real virtues like compassion, altruism, patience, responsibility etc??

What denotes fiction. I find plenty of evidence that Jesus existed and over half of the world's population agrees with me. Not because my parents told me so, but through my own discovery. And again you don't have to invoke Jesus, but I choose to.



You can't just explain to them why its good for them and the society they live in to practice such habits? You have to relate it to a science fiction book and a promise to live forever? ?

I assure you my children have no concept of life or death let alone eternal life.



Maybe you want to control them just like the religion aims to. Maybe you want to create a bond through religion, something you can be sure you'll have in common with your kids as they get older. Maybe you're afraid that without that bond they'll grow apart from you toward their own interests, and THATS why you want to control them with church?

Hm?

Please don't debate using baseless assumptions. I don't know you and you don't know me, let alone what fears I have as a parent or my intentions behing my parenting acts. Deal?

I assure you my intentions are not to brainwash as you originally stated. As a parent all I can do is lead by example and hope my children make healthy decisions.

[bada bing]

bashing muslims and sensationalizing their faults is the norm now. anyone saying anything contrary to this, is just being delusional. Christians get their fair share of criticism and continuous bashing.

the only religion that is not touched is judaism. thats jsut the honest truth. Not saying we should.